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miketrondson
06/15/08, 09:36 AM
Hey, I didn't see a post like this on here and was just curious to see what you guys (or girls) use while on the road. I will post a picture of my rig later.

Guitars-
2007 Gibson Les Paul Classic, Goldtop
2002 Epiphone Les Paul Custom, Ebony
2001 Gibson SG Special, Black

Amp/Cabinet-
Marshall JCM2000 DSL 50
Marshall 1960b 4x12 Cabinet

Rack Setup-
Furman ML-8 Power Conditioner
Sennheiser EW172 Wireless
Korg DTR-1000 Tuner
DOD 4-Channel Noise Gate

Cables by Livewire (upgrading to all Monster)
Picks by Dunlop (yellow)

theguy77
06/15/08, 08:56 PM
not even close to touring, but for kicks. this is a list of my best equipment in every category and doesnt involve my starter gear nor all the poor quality equipment i blew my money on because it was cheap and because i was inexperienced and overeager.



electric guitar - epiphone les paul standard plus top (http://www.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/ENS-TLCH1.JPG). only cost me 420 at the time (now they're up to 550) but the quality and tone are so amazingly close to that of a gibson, i wouldnt even buy a gibson if they marked the price half off. im soon to get a MIM fender telecaster (http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/495cd7cc5b49c7cd18fc8ce716dbfdbf.jp g) to go along with it for a nice single-coil lead tone.

acoustic guitar - fender CD60 (http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/9764379761e15513055c89f4d87b625b.jp g). wonderful action, perfect intonation out of the box, beautiful tone and even more beautiful sunburst color, although i was a bit disappointed at the gloss finish (they made it look like natural wood in the picture!) you probably shouldnt take my word for it though, my old guitar was a starter acoustic and it wasnt even full body, so naturally im going to love the sound any full body makes. its also very new so i havent had a chance to see how it holds up to the wear and tear of my constant daily playing. ive only just now broken the first of the strings it came with. it did come with a hardshell case though, and for $200 you'd be crazy not to think it was a great deal. it even has two strap pegs so you dont have to tie a string to the fretboard.

amp - marshall AVT50H half stack (http://www.musiciansbuy.com/mmMBCOM/images/Marshall_avt50h_412a.jpg). i dont give a fuck if its not all tube it creates a damn professional tone, with a lot of depth, a sharp dynamic, and breakup that sounds real not just emulated. not to mention, none of that solid state mushyness. nice clean channel too, not as much character as, say, an orange or fender amp, but the gain control and active EQ help a lot. maybe its because the previous owner replaced the tube in it with something better. the list price for this fucker is $1400, i got it in mint condition on ebay for 300 dollars. best fucking deal i ever got on anything in my life. though if i could have whatever i wanted, i'd be snagging marshall's JCM2000 DSL50 head (http://www.chris-bianchi.com/pic12.jpg). and probably an orange AD30HTC (http://www.themusicgallery.co.uk/prodimages/ad30.jpg)for lead guitar. i could keep the AVT stack cabinet though, a 4x12 with celestion speakers would definitely suffice. i dont know if its the cabinet or the head that does this but the depth and bass response sounds very smooth unlike some other stacks ive heard, which sound like they're muffling, swallowing, or squishing themselves.

no, i do not have any pedals. i do not believe in digital modification, i believe in getting a good amp and using its pristine tone. although, pedals are great for effects. im looking at boss's DD-20 giga delay (http://www.audio-depot.com/images/boss_dd20_gal.jpg), but really only because it has numeric tempo as opposed to tap tempo. im not interested in all the other features (really who needs 23 seconds of delay), and im not looking forward to paying 220 dollars for something i only need for 3 songs on my album. if anyone knows of a much cheaper delay pedal with numeric tempo PLEASE share.

keyboard - casio privia PX-100 (http://cachepe.samedaymusic.com/media/quality,85/brand,sameday/px-100_h_2240x1680-45f3f5c11dcc89e772976f6810e295b4.jp g). the piano tone is so great. i got it because, im a classically trained piano player, i wanted something with all 88 weighted keys, and a really nice tone. i also wanted it to be affordable, so i looked for something that didnt have like 150 other models that sound horrible (like come on, a french horn function on a keyboard? wtf?) so i came across this at a mere $500 new. it has 6 other instruments that are fun to play with and ive actually used them all at one point or another in my own music. they're not as authentic-sounding as some computer VSTs you can get but they still sound great, way better than what you'd find in a standard modeling keyboard you'd find in radioshack. i realllly like the vibraphone and strings. it also has a nifty mild reverb switch (which i always have on), chorus, and a metronome.

mic (recording) - rode NT-1 condensor (http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/8da678eda923fb79757585272aad0725.jp g). the sound quality is AMAZING for the 200 dollar pricetag, its not a neumann but it does a very good impression, and is just as good as any AKG mic which would cost hundreds more. the only problem i have is that it's too sensitive. with the loud voice i inherited from the black parts of my family, i have to back up like 3 feet if i want to belt. but 1) it still sounds great on recording, i actually like the natural room reverb feel it produces, it makes songs less digital and over-polished, and 2) that may also have something to do with my interface, which doesn't give you near as much gain control/flexibility as you would want. it would also help if the rode had a -10 dB switch to even out the volumes but a compressor can do that for you in the mixing stage anyway. i use a shure SM57 (http://muzik-madness-shop.com/catalogo/images/_SHURE_SM57.JPG)for electric guitar recording, everyone knows that that's the standard for micing amps and drums, i need not explain it.

recording interface - edirol UA-4FX (http://cdn.overstock.com/images/products/L10738079.jpg). i loved it when i first got it and have used it plenty but now i have some issues. it doesnt have a tube in it, it does have a tube simulator that works pretty well. however, as i explained above, it has hardly any gain control, meaning even when i turn the mic volume all the way down the sound still distorts when i belt into my rode. yet it still costed 200 dollars, because it has several effects (which i never use) and digital outputs for other applications like rerouting music from system to system (seriously, wtf, i just want it to record stuff.) so im thinking to sell it and replace it with the ART tube MP USB interface (http://www.musicgoround-cary.com/catalog/tubemppsusb.jpg). it is driven by a tube (yes a real live tube no simulation), loads of gain control, impedance control, a sound filter, a limiter, the ever-important phase inverter, and of course phantom power. all that for half what i paid for this intermediate garbage.

AgainstTheOcean
06/16/08, 05:41 AM
There were so many things I found wrong with your post, but this took the cake.

with the loud voice i inherited from the black parts of my family, i have to back up like 3 feet if i want to belt.

patrickhowell
06/16/08, 08:29 AM
ART tube MP USB interface (http://www.musicgoround-cary.com/catalog/tubemppsusb.jpg). it is driven by a tube (yes a real live tube no simulation), loads of gain control, impedance control, a sound filter, a limiter, the ever-important phase inverter, and of course phantom power.

I would hardly call that that a Tube Preamp. It's a starved-plate tube design. The B+ voltage is only like 30v, instead of the 350v that a 12AX7 requires. To make it look like the plates are heating up, they put a christmas tree light behind the tube. The cheapest pres I've seen that run at full rail voltage and use REAL tube technology are the Electro-Harmonix "12AY7" at $319 and Groove Tubes "The Brick" at $500. Honestly, you're probably better off running a solidstate interface with good pres. Check out the PreSonus Inspire (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation?q=presonus+inspire&st=). It's in that price range, and if the preamps sound anywhere near as good as the PreSonus FireStudio I used on my last recording, you'll be set.

The Boathouse
06/16/08, 11:27 PM
no, i do not have any pedals. i do not believe in digital modification, i believe in getting a good amp and using its pristine tone. although, pedals are great for effects. im looking at boss's DD-20 giga delay (http://www.audio-depot.com/images/boss_dd20_gal.jpg), but really only because it has numeric tempo as opposed to tap tempo. im not interested in all the other features (really who needs 23 seconds of delay), and im not looking forward to paying 220 dollars for something i only need for 3 songs on my album. if anyone knows of a much cheaper delay pedal with numeric tempo PLEASE share.


This interests me. You use a solid state amp, which isn't to say you're playing into a computer...but...
Also, have you heard of something called "analog" pedals? They aren't digital-based.
If you're going to be a tone snob about amps, I would highly recommend you leave behind your solid state amp. It's going to be hard to convince me that whatever solid state amp you are running ever could or does sound better than my tube amp. I'm sorry.
Oh, and I love effect pedals. Just don't buy shitty ones, and it'll only complement your natural tone, not color it.

Rig:
-1993 Gibson Nighthawk Special - nickel wound 10's
-PRS SE Custom semi-hollow - nickel wound 12's, tuned down a whole step
-Epiphone Alleykat - flatwound 14's
-Blackheart Little Giant
-EHX Holy Grail reverb, Digitech DD-6, Fender pedal tuner, RI Tubescreamer
-Monster cables

AgainstTheOcean
06/17/08, 05:22 AM
I suppose since I posted on this thread, I'll include my gear.

- Fernandes Ravelle Elite
- Epiphone 1958 Korina Explorer (backup)
- Randall RX120DH half stack. Traded in my old (more expensive amp) for this so I could help a friend buy his dream amp.
- Boss PH-3, TU-2, on guitar. Boss DD-3, TR-2 on vocals
- Always planet wave patch cables
- Always Elixir strings

miketrondson
06/17/08, 02:49 PM
Agreed. Some solid state amps are legit, but most aren't.

I liked my tone on my DSL50 a lot, but once I hooked up a Sonic Maximizer, I love it.

theguy77
06/17/08, 08:32 PM
just the response i expected when i said something about "marshall AVT"

my half stack does not at all exhibit any of the bad traits of a transistor amp and thats all i care about. and id take its british voice over the boutique voice of a blackheart amp any day.

AgainstTheOcean
06/18/08, 06:47 AM
just the response i expected when i said something about "marshall AVT"

my half stack does not at all exhibit any of the bad traits of a transistor amp and thats all i care about. and id take its british voice over the boutique voice of a blackheart amp any day.

I really don't think you understand. I've played that amp before. It sucks. Don't compare it to amps that don't. This was with me completely disregarding the rest of your travesties, as well.

Tristan Needler
06/18/08, 09:08 AM
mic (recording) - rode NT-1 condensor (http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/8da678eda923fb79757585272aad0725.jp g). the sound quality is AMAZING for the 200 dollar pricetag, its not a neumann but it does a very good impression, and is just as good as any AKG mic which would cost hundreds more. the only problem i have is that it's too sensitive. with the loud voice i inherited from the black parts of my family, i have to back up like 3 feet if i want to belt. but 1) it still sounds great on recording, i actually like the natural room reverb feel it produces, it makes songs less digital and over-polished, and 2) that may also have something to do with my interface, which doesn't give you near as much gain control/flexibility as you would want. it would also help if the rode had a -10 dB switch to even out the volumes but a compressor can do that for you in the mixing stage anyway. i use a shure SM57 (http://muzik-madness-shop.com/catalogo/images/_SHURE_SM57.JPG)for electric guitar recording, everyone knows that that's the standard for micing amps and drums, i need not explain it.

Try recording your louder vocals with the SM57.

patrickhowell
06/18/08, 09:57 AM
Try recording your louder vocals with the SM57.


And try recording guitar amps with the Røde.

theguy77
06/18/08, 12:00 PM
I really don't think you understand. I've played that amp before. It sucks. Don't compare it to amps that don't. This was with me completely disregarding the rest of your travesties, as well.

what makes you think im ignorant enough to make these claims without having tried any all-tube amps? yes they are better, i did specify i'd be getting something all-tube if i had the money. im comparing my AVT amp to other solid states and it blows them away by miles, and im just saying its good enough to make a professional sounding record, i was in no way saying it was as good as or better than real tube amps.

Khaos
06/18/08, 02:07 PM
gibson sg-x?

saorock
06/19/08, 09:45 AM
what makes you think im ignorant enough to make these claims without having tried any all-tube amps? yes they are better, i did specify i'd be getting something all-tube if i had the money. im comparing my AVT amp to other solid states and it blows them away by miles, and im just saying its good enough to make a professional sounding record, i was in no way saying it was as good as or better than real tube amps.

I'm assuming you have the AVT 4x12 cab also. I have an AVT150H and just traded in my AVT cab for a 1960A cab. Soo much better. I bought mine for $450 from a local shop with only a couple tiny rips in the tolex. Makes a huge difference with the AVT head.

Siren Silently
06/19/08, 10:38 AM
Not touring obviously, but I've hoarded a decent gig if I ever do want to.

Guitars-
2007 American Standard Telecaster
2002 Squier Affinity Strat w/ new PUPs
2008 Art & Lutherie Ami
1988 (give or take) Guild JF 55 w/ Fishman's installed

Amp-
Peavey Classic 30- wish I had a Deluxe Reverb though.

Mic-
Shure SM57
Shure SM58 (this is a friends, but he hasn't wanted it back in half a year)

johnh5304
06/19/08, 02:14 PM
Once I get my degree, I will pursue music until I feel like settling down and getting a real job. Until then this is my set up as of now:

Guitars:
2005 American Telecaster Deluxe
2006 Taylor 714ce

Amp:
2005 Fender Hot Rod DeVille 410 w/ ATA case

Effects:
Boss TU-2
Ibanez TS9
Marshall JH-1
Voodoo Labs Tremolo
Boss DD-20

Stuff I plan to get:
Line 6 Verbzilla, Voodoo Labs Pedal Power, Ernie Ball Volume, Monster Cables, Keely Katana, Line 6 DL-4, ATA pedal case, Shure SM57, something with humbuckers, and a cheaper acoustic

The Boathouse
06/22/08, 12:41 AM
just the response i expected when i said something about "marshall AVT"

my half stack does not at all exhibit any of the bad traits of a transistor amp and thats all i care about. and id take its british voice over the boutique voice of a blackheart amp any day.

Have you even played the amp? I'm not sure I'd believe you if you said you did. I live in New York City, and no one here stocks the thing reliably. I found one head in stock at 30th St. Guitars, and it didn't last more than 2 days. I've played your amp. I've played my amp. I can't say mine carries some sort of "boutique" tone, really. If you want that, get a Ludlow head, fuck. Blackhearts sound like Class A, single ended tube amps. That's what they are. Yours sounds like a computer. If you don't like the tone of a tube amp, there are 3 really easy changes to make to get the tone you DO like: pre-amp tube, power tube, speaker.

I don't know why anyone on the whole green earth would spend over $200 on a solid state amp, when I spent $200 and got a tube amp that melts my balls when it overdrives. And the cleans are pretty fucking sweet, too.

miketrondson
06/22/08, 10:12 AM
I don't know how much the dude knows about amps.

I had a Marshall Valvestate100 for less than a year while I saved up for my Marshall DSL50.

It had workable tone, but nothing to defend over. Tube amps have so much soul. Most DSL50's even sound different than each other.

darkpelican
06/22/08, 12:20 PM
Main Guitar: 2003 Gibson Les Paul Doublecut Standard Premium Plus (Chambered Body with pickups changed out to Lollar Imperial Humbuckers)
Second Guitar: 2007 G&L Asat Special
Pedal Board: Boss Tuner, into Keeley Moded ts9, Hermida Audio Zendrive, Keeley Compresser, Fulltone Choral Flange, Maxon Analog Delay, Line6 Dl-4.
Amp: Orange Rockerverb 50 head through 4x12 Orange cab or Bad Cat Hotcat 15 Combo, depends on the venue.
Cables: George L's.
Picks: Yellow Dunlop Tortexs

I have collected over several years and put together a rig I am proud of. I'll try to get pictures taken soon.

ftfkeytar
06/22/08, 12:22 PM
Roland Fantom -S
Korg MS2000b
Korg Micro-X

proline stands

roland kc 500 amp

things im working on integrating

macbookpro
protools
NI Kore with Komplete 5

cables = hosh posh but prefer pro co ( monster blows... always break in the worse times)

miketrondson
06/22/08, 01:05 PM
Main Guitar: 2003 Gibson Les Paul Doublecut Standard Premium Plus

What color is it? The blue one is gorgeous.

darkpelican
06/22/08, 01:49 PM
What color is it? The blue one is gorgeous.


Yeah its the midnight blue. It is a sexy looking guitar. It came with an awesome case that is pink and fuzzy on the inside.

theguy77
06/23/08, 08:08 PM
I don't know how much the dude knows about amps.

I had a Marshall Valvestate100 for less than a year while I saved up for my Marshall DSL50.

It had workable tone, but nothing to defend over. Tube amps have so much soul. Most DSL50's even sound different than each other.

you're an idiot, i said twice that if i had the money for a DSL50 (yes, i specified the very amp you're trying to school me on), i'd be getting it. i dont need you to criticize my experience with music equipment just because you're 22 and could spend 1,000 dollars more easily. not to mention that's money i already have to save to record in a studio.

besides the valvestate 100 came a good while before the AVT came around, they made some massive improvements, they made it sound richer and more authentic for one thing. ive played both a considerable amount because my drummer has the former at his house. the old valvestate is still better than most solid state amps though, as long as you keep it on the classic gain (OD1) channel.

the AVT doesn't have the "soul" of a tube amp when playing a hair metal solo, sure. but punch in a few power chords and you do get a rich tone with a sharp dynamic and plenty of breakup. riff a little bit on the clean channel with the gain up a little bit and that preamp tube gives a real warmth and smooth roundness. thats the stuff i look for in my pop-punk band. it sure as hell doesnt sound like a computer as boathouse said, ive played plenty of solid states that do and this one's different. i probably wouldnt have paid the full on list price for something that isnt all tube, but for 300 dollars (both head AND 4x12 celestion cabinet) this was a damn good deal. while it doesnt reach the prestige of the sound so many other pop-punk bands achieved with that DSL50, it will still sound awesome with the right mic placement, and the gritty british marshall voice will fit the context of my songs better than a blackheart ever could. i dont like how crate voices any of their amps, really, and i dont want that stupid logo on my grill either.

i thought this thread was made to talk about the equipment you have and what you like about it, not to compete with each other and be elitist about your preferences and the amount of money you had to spend.

miketrondson
06/23/08, 08:37 PM
with the loud voice i inherited from the black parts of my family

Don't call me an idiot after making a stupid statement like that.

theguy77
06/23/08, 11:12 PM
Don't call me an idiot after making a stupid statement like that.

hahaha that was a fucking joke i wasnt being serious. maybe it was too dry a joke to be realized in text.

AgainstTheOcean
06/24/08, 05:20 AM
hahaha that was a fucking joke i wasnt being serious. maybe it was too dry a joke to be realized in text.

Also, don't call him an idiot when the words under your name are "BHFT gutiar/vox aka chik magnit LOL".

Seriously. We're telling you that it's a bad amp, even for the price. Pretty well everything you said in that original post made you look like a moron trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about.

On top of that, saying that it's not as good as a "tube amp" isn't a valid statement either. There are some tube amps that just plain suck (see: Peavey Valveking). I impulse bought that half stack and it was the worst purchase I've made. There are some terrible tube amps out there.

miketrondson
06/24/08, 06:33 AM
I keep meaning to post a picture of my stuff. I'll try to do that later.

OveriseFan
06/24/08, 08:13 AM
On top of that, saying that it's not as good as a "tube amp" isn't a valid statement either. There are some tube amps that just plain suck (see: Peavey Valveking). I impulse bought that half stack and it was the worst purchase I've made. There are some terrible tube amps out there.

:-0

You mean... someone else gets it!? That just because it's a tube amp, doesn't make it better than a solid state amp?

Thank you for posting one of the first truly intelligent comments I've read in this forum.

theguy77
06/24/08, 11:49 AM
Also, don't call him an idiot when the words under your name are "BHFT gutiar/vox aka chik magnit LOL".

hahaha thats a joke too, inside joke from the music forum. how the fuck can't you tell, my grammar is clearly better than that. you really need to work on your sarcasm detector before continuing to post on an internet forum. and i dont hesitate to call any of you fucking idiots because instead of reading my whole posts you stop at the words "marshall AVT" or "you're an idiot" and give me some ignorant response about how you're better than me.

Seriously. We're telling you that it's a bad amp, even for the price. Pretty well everything you said in that original post made you look like a moron trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about.

okay my question to you: WHY??? why do you need to tell me my equipment is crap? we probably dont even play the same kind of music so how can you tell me my shit sucks based on YOUR preferences? how are you going to sit here and lecture me on how i wasted 300 dollars?

and im sorry if my descriptive literacy and conviction makes me look snooty. i'll be sure to water down my rhetorical skills, and type like the 17-year-old idiot i am next time. :rolleyes:

On top of that, saying that it's not as good as a "tube amp" isn't a valid statement either. There are some tube amps that just plain suck (see: Peavey Valveking). I impulse bought that half stack and it was the worst purchase I've made. There are some terrible tube amps out there.

dont sit here and nitpick my word choice you know what i meant, cause everyone else was just simply saying "tube amp" but they were clearly implying the quality ones which exhibit the traits that make tube amps their preference.

AgainstTheOcean
06/24/08, 12:25 PM
hahaha thats a joke too, inside joke from the music forum. how the fuck can't you tell, my grammar is clearly better than that. you really need to work on your sarcasm detector before continuing to post on an internet forum. and i dont hesitate to call any of you fucking idiots because instead of reading my whole posts you stop at the words "marshall AVT" or "you're an idiot" and give me some ignorant response about how you're better than me.


okay my question to you: WHY??? why do you need to tell me my equipment is crap? we probably dont even play the same kind of music so how can you tell me my shit sucks based on YOUR preferences? how are you going to sit here and lecture me on how i wasted 300 dollars?

I didn't stop at "Marshall AVT", but let's give it a go. What style of music do you play? The answer to "WHY??" is that what you say may sway opinion. Unfortunately, what you're saying is a whole bunch of wrong, misleading information. Whether that be because you've been misinformed, haven't tried out enough alternatives, or are just plain ignorant is beyond me.



dont sit here and nitpick my word choice you know what i meant, cause everyone else was just simply saying "tube amp" but they were clearly implying the quality ones which exhibit the traits that make tube amps their preference.

My apologies for correcting what 95% of the online music community gets wrong. Even if you meant it in some other way, it was taken by more than just myself in that way.

As for the sarcasm deal, other people have thought you were serious on things you were "joking" about. So you should probably either be funny or be clearer.

OURFALSEJEREMY
06/24/08, 01:27 PM
amp - marshall AVT50H half stack (http://www.musiciansbuy.com/mmMBCOM/images/Marshall_avt50h_412a.jpg). i dont give a fuck if its not all tube it creates a damn professional tone, with a lot of depth, a sharp dynamic, and breakup that sounds real not just emulated. not to mention, none of that solid state mushyness. nice clean channel too, not as much character as, say, an orange or fender amp, but the gain control and active EQ help a lot. maybe its because the previous owner replaced the tube in it with something better. the list price for this fucker is $1400, i got it in mint condition on ebay for 300 dollars. best fucking deal i ever got on anything in my life. though if i could have whatever i wanted, i'd be snagging marshall's JCM2000 DSL50 head (http://www.chris-bianchi.com/pic12.jpg). and probably an orange AD30HTC (http://www.themusicgallery.co.uk/prodimages/ad30.jpg)for lead guitar. i could keep the AVT stack cabinet though, a 4x12 with celestion speakers would definitely suffice. i dont know if its the cabinet or the head that does this but the depth and bass response sounds very smooth unlike some other stacks ive heard, which sound like they're muffling, swallowing, or squishing themselves.[/quote]


this whole thing is hilarious
did you go on musicians friend and copy and paste ???
ppl go nuts over anything that says celestion
im not hating but its all about celetion vintage 30's
most other celetions pale in comparison
and are missing the warmth

the avt50h is an alright head though it was my first head i ever owned

but on the whole thing on talking shit about gibson???
whats up with that. if your gonna buy an epiphone go with the custom

here's what i use
.......................
Mesa Triple Rectifier
Recto 4x12 slant
Ltd ec 500 with motorcity pick ups
epiphone les paul custom

rack gear
furman power conditioner
dbx compressor/gate
bbe sonic maximizer
art 31 band eq
korg rack mount tuner
shure wireless

miketrondson
06/24/08, 01:58 PM
here's what i use
.......................
Mesa Triple Rectifier
Recto 4x12 slant
Ltd ec 500 with motorcity pick ups
epiphone les paul custom

rack gear
furman power conditioner
dbx compressor/gate
bbe sonic maximizer
art 31 band eq
korg rack mount tuner
shure wireless

That's some wack shit.

patrickhowell
06/24/08, 04:52 PM
ppl go nuts over anything that says celestion
im not hating but its all about celetion vintage 30's


To be honest, I'm not too big on V30's. They're good speakers, but probably my least favorite of what that I would consider good speakers.

theguy77
06/25/08, 01:34 PM
I didn't stop at "Marshall AVT", but let's give it a go. What style of music do you play? The answer to "WHY??" is that what you say may sway opinion. Unfortunately, what you're saying is a whole bunch of wrong, misleading information. Whether that be because you've been misinformed, haven't tried out enough alternatives, or are just plain ignorant is beyond me.

oh what a noble cause. we should protect the community of musicians from slanderous praise about the demonic AVT series. what if, oh heaven forbid, someone actually thinks it IS a good amp! oh no, we don't want that. you're a real hero.

all i did was bring up my gear and say what i liked about it, im not sitting here advising some kid that he should choose the AVT half stack over anything all-tube, so i have no idea who you're paranoid that i might be misleading.

i didnt say anything about my amplifier that was "wrong" because its all based on opinion. unless you found an invisible sentence in my post that said my amp was driven by EL34 power tubes, you have no basis to "correct" me. especially since i have tried several alternatives, both tube and solid state. the AVT series is better than any solid state ive ever played and better than the more low-end tube amps but obviously not on the same level as a DSL50 for example. my preferences would cause me to choose it over a blackheart half stack though, which i have played on. all i said was that i was happy with the tone even though it isnt all tube, especially because of how little i paid for it. there, are you happy? although i dont know why i had to restate all of that becuase thats what i said the whole time.

As for the sarcasm deal, other people have thought you were serious on things you were "joking" about. So you should probably either be funny or be clearer.

people are generally not that stupid, especially ones who spend a lot of their time discussing intellectual things on an internet forum, come on man.

theguy77
06/25/08, 01:48 PM
this whole thing is hilarious
did you go on musicians friend and copy and paste ???

if you mean i took my wacky opinions and made them sound professional, i'll take that as a compliment.

ppl go nuts over anything that says celestion
im not hating but its all about celetion vintage 30's
most other celetions pale in comparison
and are missing the warmth

mine are custom voiced by marshall for the AVT head. im not sure how well they'd fare with another head but they do provide a lot of warmth. ive hooked it up to a friends cab with celestion greenbacks, and though that sounded a little better the cabs gave the same rich bassy effect.

but on the whole thing on talking shit about gibson???
whats up with that. if your gonna buy an epiphone go with the custom

ive played 3 different models of gibson guitars in comparison to my epiphone standard. you basically pay $1500 extra to have their name on your headstock. there were differences but they were negligible. (i.e. the strings felt a little more solid to pluck, the pickups sounded a little better, it was a little heavier.) i mean i wouldnt attatch that much of a price difference to that tiny increase in quality, especially when im 17 still looking for this summer's job.

OveriseFan
06/25/08, 02:51 PM
ive played 3 different models of gibson guitars in comparison to my epiphone standard. you basically pay $1500 extra to have their name on your headstock. there were differences but they were negligible. (i.e. the strings felt a little more solid to pluck, the pickups sounded a little better, it was a little heavier.) i mean i wouldnt attatch that much of a price difference to that tiny increase in quality, especially when im 17 still looking for this summer's job.

You must have gotten a really good Epiphone then and/or you played shitty Gibsons. (Their quality control lately has been crap.)

There are times when you knock something because you can't actually afford it - and sadly I think that's the case.

I'm curious - do you remember what models you played? I'm not being a dick - I'm just curious. Because most of the lower-end "Faded" models are not good.

AgainstTheOcean
06/26/08, 05:10 AM
There are times when you knock something because you can't actually afford it - and sadly I think that's the case.

I'm gonna agree with this statement. I don't care if it's "opinion", shit still tastes like shit. And no, I've never actually tasted shit.

The Boathouse
06/26/08, 02:23 PM
Gibsons, I feel, can't be appreciated until you play for more than a few years as a cognizant musician (i.e., you're no longer just playing osngs you like in your bedroom, "jamming" with your friends...you've come to learn to speak through your instrument at least a little, you know some theory, you know about the way guitars work and how they're constructed, etc). A lot of what makes a Gibson special is the way it feels more like an extension of your playing arms instead of just a piece of equipment. I didn't notice the way my Gibson really extended me as a player until I took a year of serious practice and learning, then went and played it again. I love my Epiphone Alleykat, don't get me wrong...with the set up I got done it plays like a dream, but there's something to my Gibson, a spirit that my Epiphone doesn't catch. I don't say that JUST because it's a Gibson, I say it because of how it plays, sounds, feels, and how I can communicate through it.

Guitars are like wine or cheese. Until I went to Italy and had some great fucking Parmesan from a local cheese maker, I didn't know what it was I was eating. Guitars are a lot like that. Until you have that local cheese, made in the rolling hills of Tuscany by the hands of an old woman who's the 8th generation in the family business, you won't quite know what you have or don't have. Maybe that doesn't make sense and I'm over romanticizing my relationship (or our relationships) with guitars, but they're like a part of you when they're at their best. I wouldn't want a shitty replacement hip, and I wouldn't want a subpar guitar.

miketrondson
06/26/08, 04:26 PM
Gibsons, I feel, can't be appreciated until you play for more than a few years as a cognizant musician (i.e., you're no longer just playing osngs you like in your bedroom, "jamming" with your friends...you've come to learn to speak through your instrument at least a little, you know some theory, you know about the way guitars work and how they're constructed, etc). A lot of what makes a Gibson special is the way it feels more like an extension of your playing arms instead of just a piece of equipment. I didn't notice the way my Gibson really extended me as a player until I took a year of serious practice and learning, then went and played it again. I love my Epiphone Alleykat, don't get me wrong...with the set up I got done it plays like a dream, but there's something to my Gibson, a spirit that my Epiphone doesn't catch. I don't say that JUST because it's a Gibson, I say it because of how it plays, sounds, feels, and how I can communicate through it.

Guitars are like wine or cheese. Until I went to Italy and had some great fucking Parmesan from a local cheese maker, I didn't know what it was I was eating. Guitars are a lot like that. Until you have that local cheese, made in the rolling hills of Tuscany by the hands of an old woman who's the 8th generation in the family business, you won't quite know what you have or don't have. Maybe that doesn't make sense and I'm over romanticizing my relationship (or our relationships) with guitars, but they're like a part of you when they're at their best. I wouldn't want a shitty replacement hip, and I wouldn't want a subpar guitar.

Well said. I'm sure he'll have something witty to say about that.

patrickhowell
06/26/08, 04:29 PM
mine are custom voiced by marshall for the AVT head. im not sure how well they'd fare with another head but they do provide a lot of warmth. ive hooked it up to a friends cab with celestion greenbacks, and though that sounded a little better the cabs gave the same rich bassy effect.

You've got to know that's B.S. They are custom voiced to sell in the same price bracket as the AVT head.

miketrondson
06/26/08, 04:32 PM
You know what really sucks? If he didn't type a paragraph explaining how elite his gear is, nobody would've ragged on him.

If he simply said

Epiphone Les Paul
AVT Head
AVT Cab
FallOutBoy undies.

He would've been fine.

OveriseFan
06/26/08, 08:10 PM
Gibsons, I feel, can't be appreciated until you play for more than a few years as a cognizant musician (i.e., you're no longer just playing osngs you like in your bedroom, "jamming" with your friends...you've come to learn to speak through your instrument at least a little, you know some theory, you know about the way guitars work and how they're constructed, etc). A lot of what makes a Gibson special is the way it feels more like an extension of your playing arms instead of just a piece of equipment. I didn't notice the way my Gibson really extended me as a player until I took a year of serious practice and learning, then went and played it again. I love my Epiphone Alleykat, don't get me wrong...with the set up I got done it plays like a dream, but there's something to my Gibson, a spirit that my Epiphone doesn't catch. I don't say that JUST because it's a Gibson, I say it because of how it plays, sounds, feels, and how I can communicate through it.

Guitars are like wine or cheese. Until I went to Italy and had some great fucking Parmesan from a local cheese maker, I didn't know what it was I was eating. Guitars are a lot like that. Until you have that local cheese, made in the rolling hills of Tuscany by the hands of an old woman who's the 8th generation in the family business, you won't quite know what you have or don't have. Maybe that doesn't make sense and I'm over romanticizing my relationship (or our relationships) with guitars, but they're like a part of you when they're at their best. I wouldn't want a shitty replacement hip, and I wouldn't want a subpar guitar.

I agree on your note about guitars - HOWEVER, I think that every musician just needs to find 'their' guitar. Doesn't matter if it's Gibson, Fender, Gretsch, Whatever... just find the guitar that "fits".

theguy77
06/26/08, 08:37 PM
You must have gotten a really good Epiphone then and/or you played shitty Gibsons. (Their quality control lately has been crap.)

There are times when you knock something because you can't actually afford it - and sadly I think that's the case.

I'm curious - do you remember what models you played? I'm not being a dick - I'm just curious. Because most of the lower-end "Faded" models are not good.

ive played a studio, a faded 50s neck, and a standard 50s neck. i mean of course the quality was amazing especially on the latter, i only rag on it becuase its priced so damn high and you're probably right it probably is because i can't afford it. (that however is not the case with everything i said, i can afford a blackheart half stack.) but im happy with what i have i mean it is amazing that epiphone can produce equipment that does good justice to gibson at a fraction of the cost.

Gibsons, I feel, can't be appreciated until you play for more than a few years as a cognizant musician (i.e., you're no longer just playing osngs you like in your bedroom, "jamming" with your friends...you've come to learn to speak through your instrument at least a little, you know some theory, you know about the way guitars work and how they're constructed, etc). A lot of what makes a Gibson special is the way it feels more like an extension of your playing arms instead of just a piece of equipment. I didn't notice the way my Gibson really extended me as a player until I took a year of serious practice and learning, then went and played it again. I love my Epiphone Alleykat, don't get me wrong...with the set up I got done it plays like a dream, but there's something to my Gibson, a spirit that my Epiphone doesn't catch. I don't say that JUST because it's a Gibson, I say it because of how it plays, sounds, feels, and how I can communicate through it.

Guitars are like wine or cheese. Until I went to Italy and had some great fucking Parmesan from a local cheese maker, I didn't know what it was I was eating. Guitars are a lot like that. Until you have that local cheese, made in the rolling hills of Tuscany by the hands of an old woman who's the 8th generation in the family business, you won't quite know what you have or don't have. Maybe that doesn't make sense and I'm over romanticizing my relationship (or our relationships) with guitars, but they're like a part of you when they're at their best. I wouldn't want a shitty replacement hip, and I wouldn't want a subpar guitar.

ahh thats fair enough, yeah. im more that kind of musician when it comes to piano than guitar, and when i can i am going to blow my 7,000 dollars on a steinway baby grand, i dont accept any substitutes, i'll keep playing on my pre-owned kimball upright until i can afford that. but with guitar i mean i took some of the music knowledge i had from piano but mostly i learned to become a songwriter not to become a soloist or virtuoso, so over these four years of playing, i didnt put much emphasis on the theory side of it, ive just fairly recently started working on my improvisational skills. so thats probably why i hold this opinion.

You know what really sucks? If he didn't type a paragraph explaining how elite his gear is, nobody would've ragged on him.

If he simply said

Epiphone Les Paul
AVT Head
AVT Cab
FallOutBoy undies.

He would've been fine.

wait a minute, so now IM the equipment elitist? who the fuck was i being elitist to? my post was the first one in this thread, you guys attacked ME saying my stuff is shit. am i supposed to "know" my equipment sucks and be too embarrassed to say anything about it? come on now. nice assumption with the fall out boy comment though, it would probably be a lot funnier if they werent the only powerpop band i listened to.

The Boathouse
06/26/08, 09:24 PM
Oversize fan: Yea, I was vague. It's not about what BRAND it is, it's more of an appreciation for your guitar as a player. For me, it happened to be a Gibson, it's different for everybody! Just like cheese. Everybody's got their favorite cheese, too.

OveriseFan
06/27/08, 11:43 AM
Oversize fan: Yea, I was vague. It's not about what BRAND it is, it's more of an appreciation for your guitar as a player. For me, it happened to be a Gibson, it's different for everybody! Just like cheese. Everybody's got their favorite cheese, too.

Yep. Cheese, wine, guitars.

They're all the same, really... Just don't go stringing your cheese with Ernie Balls.

remoteCONTROL
06/27/08, 02:08 PM
none of this has to do with what equipment you bring on tour. im curious to see what tours you guys have been on

miketrondson
06/27/08, 03:23 PM
none of this has to do with what equipment you bring on tour. im curious to see what tours you guys have been on

Well, I my band hasn't toured with national acts, but we've done 5 self booked tours over the past 2 years. Mostly through the Mid-West and East Coast.

OveriseFan
06/27/08, 03:45 PM
Hey, I didn't see a post like this on here and was just curious to see what you guys (or girls) use while on the road. I will post a picture of my rig later.

Guitars-
2007 Gibson Les Paul Classic, Goldtop
2002 Epiphone Les Paul Custom, Ebony
2001 Gibson SG Special, Black

Amp/Cabinet-
Marshall JCM2000 DSL 50
Marshall 1960b 4x12 Cabinet

Rack Setup-
Furman ML-8 Power Conditioner
Sennheiser EW172 Wireless
Korg DTR-1000 Tuner
DOD 4-Channel Noise Gate

Cables by Livewire (upgrading to all Monster)
Picks by Dunlop (yellow)

none of this has to do with what equipment you bring on tour. im curious to see what tours you guys have been on

He was the only person who really posted his gear claiming he toured, so I don't understand...

Are you saying his gear is inadequate? I think it's fine for touring, personally. I mean, it's not an amazing rig, but it certainly gets the job done!

Before you go talking shit, acting like a big shot, you should post up your stuff. Don't bother now - because you've shown that you're really just a jackass.

Jourdan
06/27/08, 03:46 PM
Guitars:
2008 Rickenbacker 360 Jetglo
2006 Fender Telecaster w/ Dimarzio Hotrail in the bridge
2005 Yamaha F31 Acoustic

Pedals:
Boss TU-2 Tuner
Zvex Super Duper 2-in-1 Overdrive
EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai (probably selling and getting a DL4 soon... the MM is nice, but not as practical live)
Vox Reverb and Tremolo footswitch (just amp based, obviously)

Amp:
Vox AC30


and no, i'm not touring currently. but who gives a fuck. the way music is right now, there aren't many bands worth going to see on their tours anyways.

miketrondson
06/27/08, 03:58 PM
He was the only person who really posted his gear claiming he toured, so I don't understand...

Are you saying his gear is inadequate? I think it's fine for touring, personally. I mean, it's not an amazing rig, but it certainly gets the job done!

Before you go talking shit, acting like a big shot, you should post up your stuff. Don't bother now - because you've shown that you're really just a jackass.

I've also got a custom built rack/head combo road case but I didn't post that though before because I didn't think it was necessary. The only thing that would make it an amazing set up would be a better amp.

theguy77
06/27/08, 11:06 PM
I've also got a custom built rack/head combo road case but I didn't post that though before because I didn't think it was necessary. The only thing that would make it an amazing set up would be a better amp.

better than a DSL50? what would you want? something handwired? or is it that you prefer something that better suits softer styles?

patrickhowell
06/28/08, 01:01 AM
better than a DSL50? what would you want? something handwired? or is it that you prefer something that better suits softer styles?

From an engineering standpoint, there's a lot of things wrong with the JCM2000. A ton of these amps have an issue with C46 shorting out the last power tube and ruining the whole power amp. Also, Marshall invented a 4-prong potentiometer and used them in a lot of JCM2000s in an attempt to isolate both sides of the pot, so it is impossible to repair an amp without them, and they aren't made anymore. Also, the output transformers are really underpowered for the amp. Overall, the JCM 2000 is designed about as bad (or cheap) as the Fender "Hot Rod" series...

The Boathouse
06/28/08, 01:06 AM
Haha! The fucking Hot Rods are a disaster, oh my God.

miketrondson
06/28/08, 06:36 AM
better than a DSL50? what would you want? something handwired? or is it that you prefer something that better suits softer styles?

Well, my other guitarist has a Mesa Triple Rectifier. For the style of music we play, it fits really well. Not to mention during practice I'm completely drowned out by it. I've been a fan for a long time of the Mesa distortion channels and the versatillity per channel. I'm also a fan of having three channels as opposed to two. I'm also thinking of trying other Mesa's out.


Engineering jargon about the DSL50.


I never knew that about the pots. I knew it wasn't a higher end Marshall, but still. I've had mine for about 3 years. It's due for tube change, but other than that it feels like it's pretty solid.

patrickhowell
06/28/08, 08:35 AM
I never knew that about the pots. I knew it wasn't a higher end Marshall, but still. I've had mine for about 3 years. It's due for tube change, but other than that it feels like it's pretty solid.

Yeah, they didn't use those pots in every model, but my friend is an amp tech, and he's had one sitting at his shop that he can't repair for about a year or so. He called Marshall to order some, and they said they don't have any and if he found a supplier to let them know.

miketrondson
06/28/08, 10:16 AM
Do you know where I'd find that out at all? Is it viewable if I take the back grill off?

I'm no where near an amp tech, so I'll take your word for it. I just hope I can decide on and buy my new amp before mine shits the bed.

patrickhowell
06/28/08, 11:26 AM
Do you know where I'd find that out at all? Is it viewable if I take the back grill off?

I'm no where near an amp tech, so I'll take your word for it. I just hope I can decide on and buy my new amp before mine shits the bed.

Of the JCM2000, I'm pretty sure the DSL50 is the safest of the bunch. The 40w combo and 100w head have the most common problems with the power section, and the 4-prong pots work fine unless one breaks. I wouldn't be too worried about it unless you start having problems with your output tubes. Also, the output impedance selector (4Ω / 8Ω switch) is known to be pretty weak on the JCM2000, so I'd be careful with that.

patrickhowell
06/28/08, 11:29 AM
Haha! The fucking Hot Rods are a disaster, oh my God.

Yeah, they've actually started fixing a lot of the issues for the 2008 model year. But they still have underpowered, unmatched output transformers, and the marketing department won't let them switch the linear pots to an audio taper or pull out any of the booming bass - they just want the amp to sound as loud as possible in the store.

shes.a.ghost
06/28/08, 11:33 AM
I don't really feel like typing out everything I have. But here is a picture taken of some of our stuff when we were recording a few months back.
http://a22.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/101/l_8c7c72a73cd3bd3355ed662b3112cbbd. jpg

shes.a.ghost
06/28/08, 11:36 AM
Hey, I didn't see a post like this on here and was just curious to see what you guys (or girls) use while on the road. I will post a picture of my rig later.

Guitars-
2007 Gibson Les Paul Classic, Goldtop
2002 Epiphone Les Paul Custom, Ebony
2001 Gibson SG Special, Black

Amp/Cabinet-
Marshall JCM2000 DSL 50
Marshall 1960b 4x12 Cabinet

Rack Setup-
Furman ML-8 Power Conditioner
Sennheiser EW172 Wireless
Korg DTR-1000 Tuner
DOD 4-Channel Noise Gate

Cables by Livewire (upgrading to all Monster)
Picks by Dunlop (yellow)
How do you like your LP Classic? I absolutely love my standard but have not really played around with the classics too much.

miketrondson
06/28/08, 12:46 PM
How do you like your LP Classic? I absolutely love my standard but have not really played around with the classics too much.

I personally love it. The neck is super fast, and the frets have been finished beautifully. The color is just stunning.

I had to hunt this one down for about 2 months because I heard it is being discontinued and the other gold one I played felt like shit.

The only bad things about it, it's chambered and the pick ups are the same as SG specials. I'm a fan of the heavier Les Pauls, because they feel like a real guitar and have great tone.

Your gear set up looks awesome. I don't have a digital camera, just a camera on my sidekick so the picture would blow. I'm going to try and get a pic tonight.

shes.a.ghost
06/28/08, 12:51 PM
I personally love it. The neck is super fast, and the frets have been finished beautifully. The color is just stunning.

I had to hunt this one down for about 2 months because I heard it is being discontinued and the other gold one I played felt like shit.

The only bad things about it, it's chambered and the pick ups are the same as SG specials. I'm a fan of the heavier Les Pauls, because they feel like a real guitar and have great tone.

Your gear set up looks awesome. I don't have a digital camera, just a camera on my sidekick so the picture would blow. I'm going to try and get a pic tonight.I've heard mixed reviews on the newer Les Pauls. It seems anything made after the 80s gets a lot more complaints than earlier models. None the less, the goldtops are beautiful.

theguy77
06/28/08, 12:53 PM
From an engineering standpoint, there's a lot of things wrong with the JCM2000. A ton of these amps have an issue with C46 shorting out the last power tube and ruining the whole power amp. Also, Marshall invented a 4-prong potentiometer and used them in a lot of JCM2000s in an attempt to isolate both sides of the pot, so it is impossible to repair an amp without them, and they aren't made anymore. Also, the output transformers are really underpowered for the amp. Overall, the JCM 2000 is designed about as bad (or cheap) as the Fender "Hot Rod" series...

i see. what about the JCM900's, are there any specific causes for concern in the engineering? i just found out one of my favorite distortion tones was made with one.

shes.a.ghost
06/28/08, 12:56 PM
i see. what about the JCM900's, are there any specific causes for concern in the engineering? i just found out one of my favorite distortion tones was made with one.I own a 900 and I love it. Next to the 800, it's my favorite amp Marshall has put out.

theguy77
06/28/08, 01:14 PM
is it the SL-X or dual reverb? i'd think to get the SL-X.

also what kind of orange is in that picture?

shes.a.ghost
06/28/08, 02:07 PM
I have 2 900s. One is Hi Gain Master Volume and the other is the dual reverb. The SL-X is one of the models that the Hi Gain Master Volume head has, but what I have is not an SL-X, although they sound very very similar. Tone wise I like the Hi Gain more than the Dual Reverb so I use that mainly to record. It doesn't have a clean channel, so I use the Dual Reverb live.

Also, the Orange head is a Rockerberb.

patrickhowell
06/28/08, 02:33 PM
i see. what about the JCM900's, are there any specific causes for concern in the engineering? i just found out one of my favorite distortion tones was made with one.

I've heard there's a known issue with the effects loop, and as usual with modern marshalls, underpowered output transformers that can blow and short out a power tube. Nothing really huge, but upgrading the stock power transformer wouldn't be a bad idea. It would probably even sound a lot better.

is it the SL-X or dual reverb? i'd think to get the SL-X.

also what kind of orange is in that picture?

I have 2 900s. One is Hi Gain Master Volume and the other is the dual reverb. The SL-X is one of the models that the Hi Gain Master Volume head has, but what I have is not an SL-X, although they sound very very similar. Tone wise I like the Hi Gain more than the Dual Reverb so I use that mainly to record. It doesn't have a clean channel, so I use the Dual Reverb live.

The SL-X is the only JCM 900 without a diode clipping (solid-state) distortion circuit. It's kind of like having a tube screamer in between your preamp gain stages. The SL-X has a fourth preamp tube instead. It's up to you weather you like it or not, but there's a noticeable difference to be heard.

shes.a.ghost
06/28/08, 02:39 PM
I've heard there's a known issue with the effects loop, and as usual with modern marshalls, underpowered output transformers that can blow and short out a power tube. Nothing really huge, but upgrading the stock power transformer wouldn't be a bad idea. It would probably even sound a lot better.





The SL-X is the only JCM 900 without a diode clipping (solid-state) distortion circuit. It's kind of like having a tube screamer in between your preamp gain stages. The SL-X has a fourth preamp tube instead. It's up to you weather you like it or not, but there's a noticeable difference to be heard.Why did you quote me?

patrickhowell
06/28/08, 02:52 PM
Why did you quote me?

Just noting the difference between the SL-X and the rest of the 900s

theguy77
06/28/08, 11:20 PM
ive just been looking for the rhythm guitar tone brand new used on your favorite weapon, especially in the song "shower scene". that is definitely the least impressive of their three albums but sometimes i spin it just to listen to the tone, it's that good to me. the voice definitely sounds like a marshall, looking at the video for "jude law and a semester abroad" i paused it when the amp was in sight and it looked like either a JCM900 or JCM800 but i couldn't make out the model name.

for lead tone one of my favorites is on the early november's album the mother the mechanic and the path, on the mechanic cd, but im almost certian that's with a gibson SG and orange rockerverb.

shes.a.ghost
06/29/08, 11:46 AM
ive just been looking for the rhythm guitar tone brand new used on your favorite weapon, especially in the song "shower scene". that is definitely the least impressive of their three albums but sometimes i spin it just to listen to the tone, it's that good to me. the voice definitely sounds like a marshall, looking at the video for "jude law and a semester abroad" i paused it when the amp was in sight and it looked like either a JCM900 or JCM800 but i couldn't make out the model name.

for lead tone one of my favorites is on the early november's album the mother the mechanic and the path, on the mechanic cd, but im almost certian that's with a gibson SG and orange rockerverb.
More than half the time, bands do not use thier own heads to record an album. So what you are hearing on thier album doesn't mean that is the head they are playing live. I've been seeing a ton of bands using amps like Bogner and HIWATT more and more in the studio. But, of course sometimes bands insist on using thier own gear. You need to personally play all these amps to make the best decision.

patrickhowell
06/29/08, 01:59 PM
More than half the time, bands do not use thier own heads to record an album. So what you are hearing on thier album doesn't mean that is the head they are playing live. I've been seeing a ton of bands using amps like Bogner and HIWATT more and more in the studio. But, of course sometimes bands insist on using thier own gear. You need to personally play all these amps to make the best decision.

Yeah, for example, everyone pictures Jimmy Page playing Stairway To Heaven with the double-neck SG he used live, but it was recorded with a '65 Fender XII and a '58 Tele through a 12" Supro combo (Fender Bassman copy). In fact all of Led Zeppelin I and most of IV was was recorded with that Tele and Supro.

miketrondson
06/29/08, 03:48 PM
I've heard mixed reviews on the newer Les Pauls. It seems anything made after the 80s gets a lot more complaints than earlier models. None the less, the goldtops are beautiful.

Well, you definitely have to search for the one you want these days. Some of the best Les Pauls I've played recently are those Slash models. If I had the $6,000, I wouldn't think twice.

For my Classic I looked around for a couple months and made sure it's what I want.

remoteCONTROL
06/30/08, 04:32 PM
He was the only person who really posted his gear claiming he toured, so I don't understand...

Are you saying his gear is inadequate? I think it's fine for touring, personally. I mean, it's not an amazing rig, but it certainly gets the job done!

Before you go talking shit, acting like a big shot, you should post up your stuff. Don't bother now - because you've shown that you're really just a jackass.

im not saying his shits inadequate at all. i've gone on tour with just an acoustic guitar and it was adequate. but actually he was the only person i wasn't directing that post to. i'm not on here talkin shit. the point was that the header of this thread is "Touring musicians!! What do you use? Add pics if you can!" and he's the only touring musician who posted his stuff and there are 5 pages of replies. doesn't really add up does it? if you wanna know what i tour with or record with, i'll post up pictures or whatever. don't be an idiot.

Siren Silently
06/30/08, 10:17 PM
im not saying his shits inadequate at all. i've gone on tour with just an acoustic guitar and it was adequate. but actually he was the only person i wasn't directing that post to. i'm not on here talkin shit. the point was that the header of this thread is "Touring musicians!! What do you use? Add pics if you can!" and he's the only touring musician who posted his stuff and there are 5 pages of replies. doesn't really add up does it? if you wanna know what i tour with or record with, i'll post up pictures or whatever. don't be an idiot.

Yeah. Lets have a thread that's exclusive to the only two people on this forum that tour.

The Boathouse
07/01/08, 10:49 AM
Haha, I "tour" as much as my band can afford? If that counts? We string together a few dates at a clip and then take a few weeks off. I guess that's not a big enough deal, though. Didn't post pictures 'cause I don't own a camera.

miketrondson
07/01/08, 05:33 PM
I should've named this thread something else. I figured if I posted "what gear do you have?", a bunch of people would say something like "I've got a $99 epiphone and an amp built into an old cigarette box".

Same here. Only as much as we can afford to. But my band is restructuring right now and getting ready to try and tour full time.

theguy77
07/06/08, 11:04 PM
so i found this on clearance at musiciansfriend

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=601123V

looks sweet, hand soldered and with celestion G12H's (which i heard are speakers that are specifically designed to emphasize the power and breakup of your amp), but the problem is it can only handle 60 watts, my head is already 50. is it safe to use a head thats only slightly less wattage than the cabinet's maximum capabilities? i dont think i'll ever need a more powerful head than that so im not too worried about it unable to handle anything higher.

patrickhowell
07/07/08, 10:08 PM
so i found this on clearance at musiciansfriend

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=601123V

looks sweet, hand soldered and with celestion G12H's (which i heard are speakers that are specifically designed to emphasize the power and breakup of your amp), but the problem is it can only handle 60 watts, my head is already 50. is it safe to use a head thats only slightly less wattage than the cabinet's maximum capabilities? i dont think i'll ever need a more powerful head than that so im not too worried about it unable to handle anything higher.

Your head only puts out 35w into 8Ω, so you should be safe as far as power handling. There is one thing to be careful of though... If you turn your amp up too loud, then your solid-state power amp can go into hard clipping and melt the voice coils in your speakers.

Honestly, it's not a great deal though. Avatar (LINK (http://avatarspeakers.com)) sells 212 cabs with Celestions for $298 and 412 cabs for $419. (choose from Vintage 30s, Greenbacks, G12T75s, G12H30s, or Classic Lead 80)

samvox
07/11/08, 12:46 AM
Diezel VH4.
Marshall 1960s TV cab.
Fender tele plus.
Custom Barnett.
Soon to add a Gibson BFG Les Paul.
Line 6 echo pro.
Line 6 Filter pro.
Digitech IP33B.
Voodoo labs GCX Audio switcher.
Voodoo labs Ground Control.
Sennheiser Freeport.
Lovetone 200 ilbs of fuzz.
EHX small stone.
EHX holy grail.
Ernie Ball VP jnr.
Shure SM57.
Yamaha P70.
Various full fight cases.

More stuff to be added later in the next few months (more racks).

Been away for a few years gigging so this is the first time for a good two years I've posted.
Rig's gone full circle now.

OveriseFan
07/11/08, 11:32 AM
Diezel VH4.
Marshall 1960s TV cab.
Fender tele plus.
Custom Barnett.
Soon to add a Gibson BFG Les Paul.
Line 6 echo pro.
Line 6 Filter pro.
Digitech IP33B.
Voodoo labs GCX Audio switcher.
Voodoo labs Ground Control.
Sennheiser Freeport.
Lovetone 200 ilbs of fuzz.
EHX small stone.
EHX holy grail.
Ernie Ball VP jnr.
Shure SM57.
Yamaha P70.
Various full fight cases.

More stuff to be added later in the next few months (more racks).

Been away for a few years gigging so this is the first time for a good two years I've posted.
Rig's gone full circle now.

Can I ask why a BFG Les Paul? Not a fan of those, and have heard bad things about the quality. Just a heads up - if you find one you like, obviously, get it! Haha.

Nice stuff. Always wanted to try a Tele Plus, can't find one though...

samvox
07/12/08, 05:34 AM
Can I ask why a BFG Les Paul? Not a fan of those, and have heard bad things about the quality. Just a heads up - if you find one you like, obviously, get it! Haha.

Nice stuff. Always wanted to try a Tele Plus, can't find one though...
I tried one out a while ago and kinda got hooked on the really beefy tone, fit's the style of music I play and also 'feels' right I guess. I liked the weight of the BFG aswell felt a lot better on the whole for me compared to say a studio LP or any other of the LP range.

Yeah the tele plus's are pretty hard to come by I was lucky enough to find one on ebay for £600, which is quite the find! They're currently (if you can find them) going for around the $2,000 + mark. Very good guitars and they really don't hold the whole 'indie' label everyone brands telecasters with nowadays. Very versatile beast and I'm glad I managed to get hold of one! I'd highly recommend it to anyone looking for the do it all guitar. If it had piezo's as standard it would pretty much be perfect.

ChrisCTL
07/13/08, 01:45 AM
Try recording your louder vocals with the SM57.


M-Audio Spotnek is a genious vocal mic. Or Blue mics.

ChrisCTL
07/13/08, 01:47 AM
I am currently using

Fender American Jazz Deluxe
Ampeg 8x10 classic cab
Ampeg 4-pro head
Furman Power Conditioner
SM 58 beta
Dunlop Nylon Picks


only thing I want yet is some wireless and some rack shit.

LoveLostShuffle
07/18/08, 11:24 AM
Damnnnnn no one on here plays bass or the few that do don't have decent equipment at all. Well anyway here what I play. Ill post pics soon.

Ampeg svt classic all tube head

Ampeg 8x10 cab

2 fender american series basses jazz and p

Ernie ball music man stingray with 2 pickups

Ernie ball music man sterling

Boss bass limiter enhancer

Boss bass synth

Boss bass overdrive

Boss bass chorus

Boss bass eq

Boss tuner

Boss bcb 60 pedal board

All monster cables

asteria
07/21/08, 07:25 AM
Woo!

Epiphone Les Paul Custom

Carvin Legacy 412 Half Stack

Boss tuner, dd 3 delay, noise suppressor.

all monster cables.

that's how i roll.

xcpointx
07/21/08, 10:48 PM
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v182/123/86/507621511/n507621511_547001_9304.jpg

SKB 6 space Rack case contains (from top to bottom) :
___________________________________ _________________

1. Korg Rack Mount Tuner - DTR-1000
2. Phonic Power Conditioner with Light Modules - PPC 9000E
3. TC Electronic G-Major Guitar Effects Processor
4. Mesa/Boogie Triaxis Programmable Tube Preamp
5. Mesa/Boogie Simul-Class 2:Ninety Tube Power Amp
___________________________________ _________________

6. Guitar : Ibanez SZ2020FM Prestige with EMG81/85 pickups
7. Carvin 4x12 Legacy Top Cabinet - C412T
8. Korg FC-6 Midi Foot Controller
___________________________________ _________________


Info links for the above:

1. http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=DTR1000&category_id=5
2. http://www.phonic.com/en/other/power-managers/ppc-9000e.html
3. http://www.tcelectronic.com/G-Major.asp
4. http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Rackmount-Preamps/TriAxis/triaxis.html
5. http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Stereo_Power/Simul_2_Ninety/simul_2_ninety.html
6. http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page.php?AREA_ID=4&PAGE_ID=618&COLOR=CL01&MODEL_NO=SZ4020FM
(newer neck through model)
7. http://www.carvinworld.com/products/single.php?ItemNumber=C412T&CID=GA
8. http://www.korgaseries.org/manuals.php


___________________________________ _________________
Listen to Crossingpoint here:
http://www.myspace.com/crossingpoint
http://www.crossingpoint.co.za
___________________________________ _________________

samvox
07/23/08, 02:00 AM
Diezel VH4.
Marshall 1960s TV cab.
Fender tele plus.
Custom Barnett.
Soon to add a Gibson BFG Les Paul.
Line 6 echo pro.
Line 6 Filter pro.
Digitech IP33B.
Voodoo labs GCX Audio switcher.
Voodoo labs Ground Control.
Sennheiser Freeport.
Lovetone 200 ilbs of fuzz.
EHX small stone.
EHX holy grail.
Ernie Ball VP jnr.
Shure SM57.
Yamaha P70.
Various full fight cases.

More stuff to be added later in the next few months (more racks).

Been away for a few years gigging so this is the first time for a good two years I've posted.
Rig's gone full circle now.
More stuff added.
Gibson Les Paul double cut lite.
Gibson Les paul double cut standard.
Fender 1989 Strat plus.
Waiting for them to arrive :)
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/542e_12.jpg
Strat plus.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/b1c8_1.jpg
Double cut standard.http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/2.jpg
Double cut lite.

Plus a few pics of my gear while I'm at home and have a camera.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/Gear/100_0960.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/Gear/100_0953.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/Gear/100_0951.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/Gear/100_0952.jpg

samvox
07/23/08, 02:04 AM
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v182/123/86/507621511/n507621511_547001_9304.jpg

SKB 6 space Rack case contains (from top to bottom) :
___________________________________ _________________

1. Korg Rack Mount Tuner - DTR-1000
2. Phonic Power Conditioner with Light Modules - PPC 9000E
3. TC Electronic G-Major Guitar Effects Processor
4. Mesa/Boogie Triaxis Programmable Tube Preamp
5. Mesa/Boogie Simul-Class 2:Ninety Tube Power Amp
___________________________________ _________________

6. Guitar : Ibanez SZ2020FM Prestige with EMG81/85 pickups
7. Carvin 4x12 Legacy Top Cabinet - C412T
8. Korg FC-6 Midi Foot Controller
___________________________________ _________________


Info links for the above:

1. http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=DTR1000&category_id=5
2. http://www.phonic.com/en/other/power-managers/ppc-9000e.html
3. http://www.tcelectronic.com/G-Major.asp
4. http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Rackmount-Preamps/TriAxis/triaxis.html
5. http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Stereo_Power/Simul_2_Ninety/simul_2_ninety.html
6. http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page.php?AREA_ID=4&PAGE_ID=618&COLOR=CL01&MODEL_NO=SZ4020FM
(newer neck through model)
7. http://www.carvinworld.com/products/single.php?ItemNumber=C412T&CID=GA
8. http://www.korgaseries.org/manuals.php


___________________________________ _________________
Listen to Crossingpoint here:
http://www.myspace.com/crossingpoint
http://www.crossingpoint.co.za
___________________________________ _________________
Nice gear! How are the EMG's treating you? Heard the 85's are the best out there.

verity38
08/01/08, 10:51 AM
It seems like everyone uses alot these days I just have a Orange 4x12 - My Hughes And Kettner in a road case with a wirless and a tuner. I use a Fender Telecaster Thinline and thats about it haha.

OveriseFan
08/01/08, 11:56 AM
It seems like everyone uses alot these days I just have a Orange 4x12 - My Hughes And Kettner in a road case with a wirless and a tuner. I use a Fender Telecaster Thinline and thats about it haha.

Love those guitars. And if that's all you need - it's all you need. That's a fine set-up.

verity38
08/02/08, 03:42 AM
Thanks, I love the Tele. - and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with alot of effects and what not just saying that its something im noticing nowadays.

theMATEOlife
08/02/08, 09:28 AM
DW Custom Drums - Blue Sparkle
24 x 16 Kick
8 x 12 Rack
14 x 16 Floor
6.5 x 14 Snare (Orange Sparkle)

All DW Cymbal / Snare Stands
Tama Iron Cobra Pedals (Hi Hat / Kick)

Zildjian Cymbals
19" K Custom Hybrid Crash
20" Armand Ride (Used as Crash)
21" Sweet Ride
14" New Beat Hi Hats

Akai MPD24 Midi Pad Controller

pics soon

OveriseFan
08/02/08, 11:40 AM
Thanks, I love the Tele. - and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with alot of effects and what not just saying that its something im noticing nowadays.

Yeah. I don't really use effects. I have an overdrive pedal for dirty sounds though - because I'm not a fan of my amp's dirty channel. I'm looking into a couple other pedals though (a Keeley Blues Driver for lighter-gain stuff, a pedal-tuner and a delay pedal for ambiance.)

verity38
08/02/08, 10:18 PM
Well I use a Pedal tuner but thats it. I would love to screw around with some pedals but I don't know If I would use them live..

OveriseFan
08/03/08, 07:21 AM
Well I use a Pedal tuner but thats it. I would love to screw around with some pedals but I don't know If I would use them live..

They're fun to play with - but you're right. I won't use most. I just like straight-clean sounds for most songs, and on the couple heavier songs I'll throw on the overdrive pedal. (Also use it as a solo boost sometimes now)

samvox
08/06/08, 07:39 PM
Mmmmm hai. On the subject of thinline teles I used to have one (After finding out what Johnny Buckland used).

Amazing guitars for the price.


Anyhow my guitars arrived.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1161.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1152.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1147.jpg

OveriseFan
08/06/08, 09:15 PM
Mmmmm hai. On the subject of thinline teles I used to have one (After finding out what Johnny Buckland used).

Amazing guitars for the price.


Anyhow my guitars arrived.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1161.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1152.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1147.jpg

All gorgeous. Even the BFG Les Paul - surprisingly. Haha. They look much better in person than online-store pics, I guess.

samvox
08/07/08, 05:11 PM
Mmm the DC was a bigger surprise, probably the best sounding guitar out of them all for clean. BFG and the Plus handle all the high end gain. But yeah more importantly the way they play is unbelievable.

Mikey Spa
08/13/08, 06:48 AM
theguy,

I guess you shouldn't act snobby next time you create a post. Notice how everyone jumps at you. Although this whole thread was comical I guess I should post what I got.

Takamine G-Series Acoustic
Schecter Damien 7 Electric
Elixer Strings
DS-1 BOSS Distortion Pedal
Some small Peavey Rage Amp...

Pretty BA huh? :X

untitled94
08/22/08, 08:23 AM
ampeg svt-classic head
ampeg 8x10 bass cab
marcus miller fender jazz bass
monster & mogami cables

mylastflight
08/22/08, 11:43 AM
ohhh i love talking about amps and stuff

Amps: Bad Cat Black Cat R 212 combo, Fender Bandmaster silverface '68 with 212 cab (v30s), peavey classic 30 head

Guitars: Fender MIM tele modded P90 and usa electronics, Yamaha APX5

Pedal board 1: ehx holy grail reverb, Ehx stereo electric mistress, ehx english muffin, boss tu2, boss ge7, boss dd3, voodoolab tremolo, dano kool kat, dano back talk reverb delay, screamin' eagle od and hosa pedal.

hey my band needs a drummer and a guitarist check us out let me know if any of you are interested we are from Mass:
www.myspace.com/mylastflight

ClydeMcAllister
08/22/08, 07:58 PM
This fred needs more bass players.

Basses:
2006 Fender '57 Reissue P-Bass (Can't do ANY gig without this thing.)
1992 Fender MIM P-Bass (Held together this long despite having the shit played/beat out of it for 16 years)
P-J Bass made from various parts (alternate tunings and such)

Effects: (the FUN shit.)
DigiTech Bass Squeeze compressor (don't even know why I have this, never gets used)
DigiTech Bass Synth Wah (my fav. pedal. So many sounds)
DigiTech Bass Driver
Tech21 SansAmp Programmable Bass Driver DI (Nice for diff. tones and overdrives)
DigiTech BP200 (used mainly for Whammy, flanger, phaser and some delay)
ProCo Vintage RAT (Nasty ass distortion, but it cuts a bit too much low end)
DOD FX65 Chorus (Old as shit but gets the job done)
DigiTech DigiDelay (going to augment it with a DD-5 or 6 soon.)
Boss TU-2 Tuner
All powered with a Godlyke Power-All power supply and set up on some brand of pedalboard.

Amps:
Eden WT550 head
Eden D410XST cab

Sennheiser Free port wireless
Various cables
Dunlop purple Tortex picks
Ernie Ball Strings

miketrondson
08/25/08, 01:05 PM
This fred needs more bass players.

Basses:
2006 Fender '57 Reissue P-Bass (Can't do ANY gig without this thing.)
1992 Fender MIM P-Bass (Held together this long despite having the shit played/beat out of it for 16 years)
P-J Bass made from various parts (alternate tunings and such)

Effects: (the FUN shit.)
DigiTech Bass Squeeze compressor (don't even know why I have this, never gets used)
DigiTech Bass Synth Wah (my fav. pedal. So many sounds)
DigiTech Bass Driver
Tech21 SansAmp Programmable Bass Driver DI (Nice for diff. tones and overdrives)
DigiTech BP200 (used mainly for Whammy, flanger, phaser and some delay)
ProCo Vintage RAT (Nasty ass distortion, but it cuts a bit too much low end)
DOD FX65 Chorus (Old as shit but gets the job done)
DigiTech DigiDelay (going to augment it with a DD-5 or 6 soon.)
Boss TU-2 Tuner
All powered with a Godlyke Power-All power supply and set up on some brand of pedalboard.

Amps:
Eden WT550 head
Eden D410XST cab

Sennheiser Free port wireless
Various cables
Dunlop purple Tortex picks
Ernie Ball Strings

Digitech makes things sound cheap to me. I've owned a few of their effects processors, but only for use in my bedroom.. I'd never bring one on stage.

miketrondson
08/25/08, 01:17 PM
I've got pictures of my gear, now I just need to upload them haha.

Also, I figured I would post what my other band members use.

Guitarist-
Guitars
2004 Gibson SG Special Faded
2005 LTD Viper 400

Amplifier-
Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier Solo Head

Cabinet-
Mesa Boogie Rectifier 4x12

Rack-
Furman ML-8 power conditioner
Sennheiser EW-172 wireless
Korg DTR-1000 Tuner

Bassist-
Basses
2002 Fender Mexican Jazz Bass
Purchasing a 2008 Fender Deluxe Jazz Bass soon.

Amplifiers-
Ampeg VB4H Head
Gallien-Krueger 400RB-III

Cabinets-
Ampeg SVT610HLF (6x10, classic)
Ampeg SVT410HLF (4x10, classic)

Rack-
Korg Toneworks DTR-2 tuner

ClydeMcAllister
08/25/08, 03:30 PM
Digitech makes things sound cheap to me. I've owned a few of their effects processors, but only for use in my bedroom.. I'd never bring one on stage.

The stompboxes sound great, especially the synth, it tracks very well. I only use the muti effects because I have yet to get some other effects, mainly a whammy pedal.

miketrondson
08/27/08, 07:03 PM
Here's pictures of my rig finally!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/bigguntron/PICT0003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/bigguntron/PICT0004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/bigguntron/PICT0005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/bigguntron/PICT0008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/bigguntron/PICT0009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/bigguntron/PICT0010.jpg

withonevoice
09/06/08, 10:50 PM
here's my touring rig. substitute an epiphone les paul standard for the '72 tele, which was just stolen from me. :(

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii253/deathstardesign/l_ca3dc744372dcf10e4a2428ce9acd9-1.jpg

withonevoice
09/06/08, 10:54 PM
by the way, here's what all of that is:

1991 marshall jcm 900 mark 3
orange 4x12 (obvious)
korg tuner
boss dd-3
mi audio crunchbox
ibanez ad9 delay
electro-harmonix small stone
early 70s big muff pi
voodoo lab analog chorus
ernie ball volume pedal
dunlop brick power supply
pedaltrain board

all custom roadcases built by barry cases here in st. louis.

the pedalboard isn't much like that anymore because i'm such a gear nerd.

Tristan Needler
09/06/08, 10:55 PM
Here (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=19094081#post19094 081) are some pictures of my instruments. I don't have any amps here at present, and I don't play live, but I do record a bit. Didn't include pictures of that stuff though.

samvox
10/01/08, 09:45 AM
Change of rig time:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1471.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1474.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1478.jpg

Mesa Stiletto Deuce II not pictured.

miketrondson
10/01/08, 10:29 AM
Change of rig time:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1471.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1474.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee243/sam14786/100_1478.jpg

Mesa Stiletto Deuce II not pictured.

Man, those cables are intense behind that one unit. What is it? How is that BFG?

untitled94
10/01/08, 05:08 PM
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2342/nonamedr5.jpg

OURFALSEJEREMY
10/02/08, 09:11 AM
alot of this shit is real legit

miketrondson
10/02/08, 10:34 AM
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2342/nonamedr5.jpg

I'm on a sidekick, so I'm not sure.. But is the green rig's brand name "green"?

Isn't that stuff rare?

samvox
10/02/08, 10:37 AM
Man, those cables are intense behind that one unit. What is it? How is that BFG?
Haha that's the GCX audio switcher. All the cables for the pedals and racks go into it, I really need to get it tidied up and sorted. One thing missing from my rig now is the Tc electronic g major.

The bfg is awesome, and handles pretty much every style of music perfectly.

miketrondson
10/02/08, 11:14 AM
Haha that's the GCX audio switcher. All the cables for the pedals and racks go into it, I really need to get it tidied up and sorted. One thing missing from my rig now is the Tc electronic g major.

The bfg is awesome, and handles pretty much every style of music perfectly.

What does the audio switcher and g major do?

samvox
10/02/08, 12:31 PM
What does the audio switcher and g major do?
The audio switcher is a patch bay that allows you to bring pedals/racks into the loop so that they effect the signal chain. The g major is a multi effects rack with tremolo,delay,chorus, flange and various other effects. Means I get to cut down on the amount of pedals I have to buy. :)

It's all MIDI controllable as well so it makes gigging and recording a lot easier.

untitled94
10/03/08, 08:37 AM
I'm on a sidekick, so I'm not sure.. But is the green rig's brand name "green"?

Isn't that stuff rare?

ya that's a real green -- not just a cab with green tolex. it was made by matamp back in the day and they made a bunch more in the 90s like this. my guitarist got the rig for $3k off of a guitar center in michigan, through the online used portion of the site.

TheGoodnightJoe
10/04/08, 06:35 PM
ya that's a real green -- not just a cab with green tolex. it was made by matamp back in the day and they made a bunch more in the 90s like this. my guitarist got the rig for $3k off of a guitar center in michigan, through the online used portion of the site.

your in i call fives right? man you guys mustve upgraded recently, we need to get a show together soon, i need to see this green amp! i'll have pics up soon of my rig... but thsi is what i got

05 Fender American Tele Deluxe
00 Fender American Tele w/ Hot rail
98 Ginbson LP DC Standard

Orange AD30 2x12 in road case

Ibanez Tubescreamer
Boss TU-2
Boss TR-2
Ernie Ball Volume
Line 6 DL-4
Shure Wireless

pete-alburn
10/05/08, 04:29 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/pete_4starpunk/rack.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/pete_4starpunk/amps.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/pete_4starpunk/guitars-1.jpg

untitled94
10/05/08, 08:38 AM
your in i call fives right? man you guys mustve upgraded recently, we need to get a show together soon, i need to see this green amp! i'll have pics up soon of my rig... but thsi is what i got

05 Fender American Tele Deluxe
00 Fender American Tele w/ Hot rail
98 Ginbson LP DC Standard

Orange AD30 2x12 in road case

Ibanez Tubescreamer
Boss TU-2
Boss TR-2
Ernie Ball Volume
Line 6 DL-4
Shure Wireless


haha yeah dude -- whats going on. our guitarist got the green setup last june, that picture i uploaded is from december 07 -- when we played with you dudes @ that fest in vineland and borrowed xtown's equipment, maybe thats why it looks new.

hope you guys are doing well, new ep sounds good brotha

TheGoodnightJoe
10/05/08, 04:12 PM
haha yeah dude -- whats going on. our guitarist got the green setup last june, that picture i uploaded is from december 07 -- when we played with you dudes @ that fest in vineland and borrowed xtown's equipment, maybe thats why it looks new.

hope you guys are doing well, new ep sounds good brotha

oh yeah, that must be it... thanks man, glad you dig it. i saw you guys got signed, thats sick... looking forward to hearin the debut

alifelikestory
10/11/08, 08:41 PM
The More-or-less setup for the band "A Lifelike Story":

GUITAR:

*(1) Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier
*(1) Samson Power Conditioner
*(1) Sennheiser Wireless Instrument Rack
*All of that inside a custom made ATA Road Case

*(1) Mesa Boogie 4 x 12" Guitar Cabinet in a custom made ATA Road Case

*(1) White Gibson SG Custom
*(1) Blue Gibson SG Custom
*(1) BOSS Tuning Pedal
*Misc. other Digitech/ BOSS Pedals

BASS:
*The following is inside an SKB Roto Rack:
*(1) Sabine Chromatic Instrument Rack Tuner
*(1) Samson Power Conditioner
*(1) Hartke 5000 Bass Head

*(1) Hartke 4 x 10" XL Bass Cabinet

*(1) Black Squier CUSTOM Precision Bass Righty w/ Custom Pickguard
*(1) Metallic Black Squier AMERICAN Precision Bass Lefty


I don't feel like doing drums hahaha. Whatevers though. Feel free to bash our gear or whatever, I don't care. It's versatile, and it gets the job done.

miketrondson
10/12/08, 09:42 AM
The More-or-less setup for the band "A Lifelike Story":

GUITAR:

*(1) Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier
*(1) Samson Power Conditioner
*(1) Sennheiser Wireless Instrument Rack
*All of that inside a custom made ATA Road Case

*(1) Mesa Boogie 4 x 12" Guitar Cabinet in a custom made ATA Road Case

*(1) White Gibson SG Custom
*(1) Blue Gibson SG Custom
*(1) BOSS Tuning Pedal
*Misc. other Digitech/ BOSS Pedals

BASS:
*The following is inside an SKB Roto Rack:
*(1) Sabine Chromatic Instrument Rack Tuner
*(1) Samson Power Conditioner
*(1) Hartke 5000 Bass Head

*(1) Hartke 4 x 10" XL Bass Cabinet

*(1) Black Squier CUSTOM Precision Bass Righty w/ Custom Pickguard
*(1) Metallic Black Squier AMERICAN Precision Bass Lefty


I don't feel like doing drums hahaha. Whatevers though. Feel free to bash our gear or whatever, I don't care. It's versatile, and it gets the job done.

What makes everything "custom"?

alifelikestory
10/12/08, 11:04 AM
Well the custom road cases were made specifically for our guitarist's setup to his specifications. He met with one of the higher-ups at the company and they created it to his liking.

As far as the bass goes, it is a right-handed Bass Guitar, however since our bassist is left-handed, he removed and re-wired the tone knob on it because it was getting in the way. He also has a custom made pickguard for it. It's similar to the Mark Hoppus bass in terms of it only has a volume knob on it.

I call the stuff 'custom made', because it was custom made for our needs.

untitled94
10/12/08, 09:02 PM
Well the custom road cases were made specifically for our guitarist's setup to his specifications. He met with one of the higher-ups at the company and they created it to his liking.

As far as the bass goes, it is a right-handed Bass Guitar, however since our bassist is left-handed, he removed and re-wired the tone knob on it because it was getting in the way. He also has a custom made pickguard for it. It's similar to the Mark Hoppus bass in terms of it only has a volume knob on it.

I call the stuff 'custom made', because it was custom made for our needs.

you don't have to meet with a 'higher-up' to get a road case with ample rack space...
generally every ata case is "custom" -- depending on rack space, and size

miketrondson
10/13/08, 01:26 AM
Exactly. The company who made my road case had me drive from Detroit to Flint for them to measure my amplifier and cabinet to get exact dimensions. I chose everything from thickness to color of the shell inside the roadcase next to the rack mount.

Unless you buy roadcases off of Ebay or another place that are built to order, you're always going to get a custom ATA case.

alifelikestory
10/13/08, 01:39 PM
Well no matter how you cut it it's still custom. Guess you guys were looking for something flashier, haha.

Soundman86
10/14/08, 10:34 AM
Guitars: Gibson SG Standard, Hagstrom Swede
Amps: Orange rockerverb 50 combo, Mesa Boogie Rectoverb 50 combo
SKB pedal board: Boss TU-2 tuner, Flanger, DD-6, Line 6 DM4, Line 6 DL4

The simpler the better

samvox
10/20/08, 08:17 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iw2snuXcttQ

Video of the rig in action. Changed a little.

EndSerenading
10/21/08, 06:45 AM
My setup:

Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier
Custom-artist sponsor-Splawn 4x12 cabinet
Peavey 5150 4x12 cabinet

Boss Reverb
Boss Delay
Boss NS-2
Fender tuning pedal

Planetwave cables

Ibanez S5470 (prestige)
Ibanez RG2550 (prestige)
Ibanez S470
Ibanez '83 Roadstar (particular guitar is rare)
Ibanez '90 Roadstar

other guitarist's setup has a bit more stuff and I dont feel like trying to recall what all he has.

miketrondson
10/21/08, 08:47 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/pete_4starpunk/rack.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/pete_4starpunk/amps.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/pete_4starpunk/guitars-1.jpg

Is that a Rectifier rack mount? If so, how much do those run? Could you give me the specs on it or link me? I've been considering buying a Mesa for some time now and the only thing stopping me is that I built a custom-fit road case for my Marshall and I didn't want to build a new one. Thanks a ton!

My setup:

Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier
Custom-artist sponsor-Splawn 4x12 cabinet
Peavey 5150 4x12 cabinet

Boss Reverb
Boss Delay
Boss NS-2
Fender tuning pedal

Planetwave cables

Ibanez S5470 (prestige)
Ibanez RG2550 (prestige)
Ibanez S470
Ibanez '83 Roadstar (particular guitar is rare)
Ibanez '90 Roadstar

other guitarist's setup has a bit more stuff and I dont feel like trying to recall what all he has.

It seems like you have a pretty cool set up, but I have to ask.. You have all Boss pedals except the fender tuner.. Why not the TU-2 tuner. I read in a Guitar Center ad that that was Boss' best selling pedal. I just found it kinda funny.

EndSerenading
10/21/08, 08:59 AM
haha, fair question. Honestly Ive just had this trusty fender one for so long and it hasnt broken so I haven't replaced it yet. If/when it does die on me I will probably go with the boss pedal.

patrickhowell
10/21/08, 09:34 AM
Is that a Rectifier rack mount? If so, how much do those run? Could you give me the specs on it or link me? I've been considering buying a Mesa for some time now and the only thing stopping me is that I built a custom-fit road case for my Marshall and I didn't want to build a new one. Thanks a ton!



It seems like you have a pretty cool set up, but I have to ask.. You have all Boss pedals except the fender tuner.. Why not the TU-2 tuner. I read in a Guitar Center ad that that was Boss' best selling pedal. I just found it kinda funny.

There's no reason to get the Boss tuner over anything else... Really I don't like the Boss one as much as some others, including Fenders. All you need is something that you can see on stage and some others are more visible than the TU-2.

miketrondson
10/21/08, 11:07 AM
There's no reason to get the Boss tuner over anything else... Really I don't like the Boss one as much as some others, including Fenders. All you need is something that you can see on stage and some others are more visible than the TU-2.

I wasn't saying it's the best pedal tuner, but I figured... he has 3 Boss pedals and a Fender tuner. I guess the reason I'd select the Boss TU-2 is because it can power other pedals, but the NS-2 can as well and I forgot he had that.

EndSerenading
10/21/08, 11:20 AM
Yea I use the NS-2 to power the other pedals :)

gibsonman246
10/29/08, 05:44 PM
i'm bumping this up.

my rig iss:

Gibson Les Paul Classic
Fender Tele Plus

Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Marshall 1960A

TU-2
NS-2
CS-3

nothing too fancy. hopefully getting an ibanez ts-9 soon and a shure PGX14

but can someone please explain to me the advantages of rack mounts? i never really understood that

miketrondson
10/29/08, 08:17 PM
i'm bumping this up.

my rig iss:

Gibson Les Paul Classic
Fender Tele Plus

Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Marshall 1960A

TU-2
NS-2
CS-3

nothing too fancy. hopefully getting an ibanez ts-9 soon and a shure PGX14

but can someone please explain to me the advantages of rack mounts? i never really understood that

Well, you and I have extremely similar rigs. You have the DSL100 and I have the DSL50. I use the NS-2, TU-2 and a Les Paul Classic. I'm considering getting the Tubescreamer TS808.

My situation for using rack gear was because I was touring a lot when I first got my current gear and I was having a road case built. I thought it would be more convinient to have the rack built into it so I essentially had to plug my rig into an outlet, my speaker cable to cabinet and flip 3 switches and it was show time. Also, I already owned a rack mountable wireless and power conditioner, so it made sense to get a rack noise gate, maximizer and tuner.

I personally don't use floor effects, but I will be buying an overdrive pedal (to make up for my lack of third channel) and the MXR Carbon Copy.

It just worked easier for me and my gear was safer.

MatthiasEllis
10/29/08, 09:30 PM
we've never done any real legit tours but definitely played the west half of the US quite a bit.

Guitars-
Fender 1972 tele deluxe reissue
Fender mexi Jaguar HH Black
Gibson les paul studio worn brown (those ones you could only get at guitar center that were only like $900 new)

Amp/cab-
Marshall JCM900 dual reverb 100 watt (switched down to 50 because were not playing stadiums)
Orange 4x12

Pedals-
Boss TU2 tuner
Ernie ball vp jr
Line 6 DL4 (heaven in a box)
Boss Tremolo
Electro harmonix Holy Stain Reverb

theMATEOlife
10/30/08, 06:59 PM
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/vosganian/IMG_9212.jpg


shitty picture of my current set up.

DW Drums
8 x 12
14 x 16
16 x 24
6.5 x 14

Zildjian Cymbals
19" K Custom Hybrid Crash
18" Z Custom Medium Crash
14" K Session Custom Hats (bottom on top)
20" A Ping Ride

DW / Gibraltar Hardware
Tama Iron Cobra Single Pedal
Pork Pie Throne

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/vosganian/2495261192_a797c7830e_m-1.jpg


two road cases. they are tainted now because craig finn thought it was hilarious to spray paint "dick" and "butt" on them, respectively. still great cases and now they have huge dick and butt on their lids which makes everything cooler.

jayceeeeee
10/31/08, 07:27 AM
this is pretty cool, figured i'll post my stuff

guitars/etc.-
1994 Fender Standard Tele
2001 Fender American Tele
Taylor 110
Mastertone Gold Ultima Banjo
(in gator tweed cases)

Amp-
Crate VC50 head
Orange 2x12 cab
(in live-in Brady Cases)

Rack/pedal board-
Shure P2TRE2-H2 PSM 200 Wireless in ears
Furman power conditioner
(in the amp head live in case)

Electro Harmonix English Muff'n
Boss TU-2, DD-6, PS-5, OS-2, NS-2
Duncan Cry Baby
(in a Rave-On Guitar works pedal board)

strings by ernie ball (regular slinkys on electric, earthwood medium lights on acoustic, bluegrass earthwood on banjo)
picks by fender
cables by monster