The Music Forum's Essential Albums: The 80's

[micahistheballs]

Alright, you guys know the drill.

Post your 20 most essential albums from the 80's IN ORDER. The most essential being what you feel are the most essential to a music fan to understand the history and evolution of what we listen to today.

Once again, the scoring system is...

1st- 10 points
2nd- 8 points
3rd- 7 points
4th-10th- 5 points
11th-20th- 3 points

Vote and discuss away.

[versus_god]

1. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
2. Descendents - Milo Goes To College
3. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
4. Black Flag - Damaged
5. Fugazi - 13 Songs
6. Minor Threat - Out Of Step
7. Husker Du - Zen Arcade
8. Bad Brains - Bad Brains
9. Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime
10. The Replacements - Tim
11. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
12. Rites Of Spring - End On End
13. Operation Ivy - Energy
14. Bad Religion - No Control
15. Circle Jerks - Group Sex
16. The Pixies - Surfer Rosa
17. Flipper - Generic
18. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & The Lash
19. Dead Milkmen - Big Lizard In My Backyard
20. Mission Of Burma - Vs.

bam.

[Rawrr]

IN NO ORDER

Husker Du- Zen Arcade
The Smiths- Louder Than Bombs
Fugazi- 13 songs
Sonic Youth- Daydream Nation
N.W.A- Straight Outta Compton

I'm sure there are more.

[Rawrr]

1. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
2. Descendents - Milo Goes To College
3. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
4. Black Flag - Damaged
5. Fugazi - 13 Songs
6. Minor Threat - Out Of Step
7. Husker Du - Zen Arcade
8. Bad Brains - Bad Brains
9. Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime
10. The Replacements - Tim.
11. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
12. Rites Of Spring - End On End
13. Operation Ivy - Energy
14. Bad Religion - No Control
15. Circle Jerks - Group Sex
16. The Pixies - Surfer Rosa
17. Flipper - Generic
18. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & The Lash
19. Dead Milkmen - Big Lizard In My Backyard
20. Mission Of Burma - Vs.

bam.
You stole half my shit.

[micahistheballs]

That was ridiculously quick.

That's what she said.

[versus_god]

I started putting it together when the other thread got bumped haha.

[FeynmanWannabe]

Lots and lots of R.E.M.

[Rawrr]

Essential 90's thread?

[Nevuk]

IN NO ORDER

Husker Du- Zen Arcade
The Smiths- Louder Than Bombs
Fugazi- 13 songs
Sonic Youth- Daydream Nation
N.W.A- Straight Outta Compton

I'm sure there are more.
I think I should listen to this sometime.

[xmadeofstonex]

1.) The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
2.) My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
3.) Cro-Mags - Age of Quarrel
4.) Bad Brains - Bad Brains
5.) Descendents - Milo Goes To College
6.) Judge - Chung King Can Suck It
7.) The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
8.) Joy Division - Closer
9.) Husker Du - New Day Rising
10.) Dinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over Me
11.) Embrace - S/T
12.) Black Flag - Damaged
13.) Uniform Choice - Screaming For A Change
14.) Bad Religion - How Could Hell Be Any Worse?
15.) The Lemonheads - Hate Your Friends
16.) Youth of Today - Break Down The Walls
17.) Dumptruck - For The Country
18.) Metallica - Ride The Lightning
19.) Death - Leprosy
20.) The Chameleons - What Does Anything Mean? Basically


Man that was hard, so many other things I really want to put on this.

[TheOtherAndrew]

1) Dead Kennedys - Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death
2) Bad Religion - Suffer
3) Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
4) Descendents - Milo Goes To College
5) Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
6) Bad Religion - No Control
7) Dead Kennedys - In God We Trust, Inc

[versus_god]

Into The Unknown #1

[TheOtherAndrew]

Into The Unknown #1
The Angels and Airwaves album of the 80s.

[Regards]

It disapoints me to know that Metallica probably won't get into the top 20.

[TheOtherAndrew]

I'm sure Lars will be devastated and quickly take legal action against everyone who didn't vote for him.

[Regards]

I'm going to upload Kill Em All and lable it as an AVA album. Then we'll see what's up.

[mattybobviously]

Going to be very interesting to see how these lists shape up, this will probably be the first time that the nature of this forum really has an effect and we see a lot of punk.

[micahistheballs]

If Thriller isn't top 5....

[xmadeofstonex]

If Thriller isn't top 5....

Then it will be a good list.

[xmadeofstonex]

I could think of about a million honorable mentions I'd like to do.

[born to expire]

1. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
2. Bad Brains - ROIR (not my favorite Bad Brains release, but you can't deny its impact)
3. Van Halen - 1984
4. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me
5. Run DMC - Raising Hell
6. Cro-Mags - Age of Quarrel
7. Embrace - Embrace
8. Iron Maiden - Killers
9. Metallica - Kill 'Em All
10. Black Flag - Damaged
11. Stone Roses - Stone Roses
12. Eric B and Rakim - Paid in Full
13. NWA - Straight Outta Compton
14. Descendents - Milo Goes to College
15. Morrissey - Viva Hate
16. Void - Faith/Void Split
17. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
18. Youth of Today - We're Not In This Alone
19. The Cure - Disintegration
20. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA

That was hard. I will probably change this a lot.

[born to expire]

Then it will be a good list.

Thriller is a great album. I should have included it.

[xmadeofstonex]

London Calling is a seventies album I know it was early 1980 in the US but we included it in the seventies so we should leave it at that.

I think the year the album was first available is all that matters.

[micahistheballs]

Yeah, London Calling doesn't count.

[kearn1tm]

Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Prince & The Revolution - Purple Rain
Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.
Pixies - Surfer Rosa
REM - Murmur
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
U2 - The Joshua Tree
Joy Division - Closer
Guns 'n Roses - Appetite for Destruction
Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues
John Lennon and Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy
Afrika Bambaataa & Soulsonic Force - Planet Rock: The Album
Paul Simon - Graceland
Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
The Replacements - Let It Be
Anita Baker - Rapture
Elvis Costello - Imperial Bedroom
Midnight Oil - Diesel and Dust

[Regards]

1. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
2. Bad Brains - ROIR (not my favorite Bad Brains release, but you can't deny its impact)
3. Van Halen - 1984
4. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me
5. Run DMC - Raising Hell
6. Cro-Mags - Age of Quarrel
7. Embrace - Embrace
8. Iron Maiden - Killers
9. Metallica - Kill 'Em All
10. Black Flag - Damaged
11. Stone Roses - Stone Roses
12. Eric B and Rakim - Paid in Full
13. NWA - Straight Outta Compton
14. Descendents - Milo Goes to College
15. Morrissey - Viva Hate
16. Void - Faith/Void Split
17. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
18. Youth of Today - We're Not In This Alone
19. The Cure - Disintegration
20. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA

That was hard. I will probably change this a lot.
This is a great list.

[micahistheballs]

I'm pretty pumped for Brady's list of all Smiths releases in the top 5 haha.

[born to expire]

This is a great list.

Thanks.

More Bad Brains and Smiths albums would have been nice but I guess there really wasn't enough room. The order is sort of BS though but whatever.

[Regards]

Thanks.

More Bad Brains and Smiths albums would have been nice but I guess there really wasn't enough room. The order is sort of BS though but whatever.
I didn't really agree with the order, but I wasn't looking at the order, you pretty much hit the essentials, which is what its all about. Seeing the Beastie Boys in there was nice.

[IWasaCamera]

1. Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden
2. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Down
3. Paul Simon - Graceland
4. Joy Division - Closer
5. Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes
6. R.E.M. - Life's Rich Pageant
7. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
8. Talking Heads - Remain In Light
9. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
10. U2 - The Joshua Tree
11. De La Soul - 3 Feet High And Rising
12. Cocteau Twins - Blue Bell Knoll
13. Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man
14. Pixies - Surfer Rosa
15. The Cure - Disintegration
16. Bruce Springsteen - Born In The U.S.A.
17. Michael Jackson - Thriller
18. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
19. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
20. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton

[AlternateToLife]

Been waiting for this one!


1) The Descendents- Milo Goes To College
2) The Replacements- Let It Be
3) The Smiths- The Queen Is Dead
4) Bruce Springsteen- Nebraska
5) Fugazi- 13 Songs
6) The Smiths- The Smiths
7) Husker Du- Zen Arcade
8) Bob Dylan- Oh Mercy
9) Marvin Gaye- Midnight Love
10)Bruce Springsteen- Born in the U.S.A.
11) Black Flag- Damaged
12) The Replacements- Tim
13) The Clash- Sandinista!
14) The Cure- Disintegration
15) The Cure- Pornography
16) The Police- Synchronicity
17) Elvis Costello- Trust
18) Bad Religion- Suffer
19) Metallica- Master Of Puppets
20) Violent Femmes- Violent Femmes

[oranjeman]

1. Michael Jackson - Thriller
2. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.
3. U2 - The Joshua Tree
4. Paul Simon - Graceland
5. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
6. Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain
7. Pixies - Surfer Rosa
8. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
9. REM - Murmur
10. Afrika Bambaataa & Soulsonic Force - Planet Rock: The Album
11. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
12. Joy Division - Closer
13. Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues
14. U2 - War
15. The Cure - Disintegration

[allhourcymbals]

Been waiting for this one!


1) The Descendents- Milo Goes To College
2) The Replacements- Let It Be
3) The Smiths- The Queen Is Dead
4) Bruce Springsteen- Nebraska
5) Fugazi- 13 Songs
6) The Smiths- The Smiths
7) Husker Du- Zen Arcade
8) Bob Dylan- Oh Mercy
9) Marvin Gaye- Midnight Love
10)Bruce Springsteen- Born in the U.S.A.
11) Black Flag- Damaged
12) The Replacements- Tim
13) The Clash- Sandinista!
14) The Cure- Disintegration
15) The Cure- Pornography
16) The Police- Synchronicity
17) Elvis Costello- Trust
18) Bad Religion- Suffer
19) Metallica- Master Of Puppets
20) Violent Femmes- Violent Femmes
my list is going to look a lot like this when i get around to doing it.

[Chris Fallon]

I felt compelled to post a top 35 ... because I like my list.

35. Pink Floyd - The Wall
34. R.E.M. - Document
33. Screeching Weasel - Boogada Boogada Boogada
32. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
31. Run-DMC - Raising Hell
30. Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today
29. The Police - Ghosts In The Machine
28. U2 - The Joshua Tree
27. Misfits - Walk Among Us
26. Talking Heads - Remain In Light
25. Van Halen - 1984
24. Morrissey - Viva Hate
23. T.S.O.L. - Dance With Me
22. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
21. X - Los Angeles
20. Metallica - Master of Puppets
19. The Clash - Combat Rock
18. Anthrax - Among The Living
17. Pixies - Doolittle
16. Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
15. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation of Millions...
14. Husker Du - New Day Rising
13. The Smiths - The Smiths
12. Black Flag - Damaged
11. Fugazi - 13 Songs
10. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
9. Bad Religion - Suffer
8. Metallica - Ride The Lightning
7. Husker Du - Zen Arcade
6. Descendents - Milo Goes To College
5. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
4. Soundgarden - Louder Than Love
3. Michael Jackson - Thriller
2. Replacements - Let It Be
1. Paul Simon - Graceland

[versus_god]

Been waiting for this one!


1) The Descendents- Milo Goes To College
2) The Replacements- Let It Be
3) The Smiths- The Queen Is Dead
4) Bruce Springsteen- Nebraska
5) Fugazi- 13 Songs
6) The Smiths- The Smiths
7) Husker Du- Zen Arcade
8) Bob Dylan- Oh Mercy
9) Marvin Gaye- Midnight Love
10)Bruce Springsteen- Born in the U.S.A.
11) Black Flag- Damaged
12) The Replacements- Tim
13) The Clash- Sandinista!
14) The Cure- Disintegration
15) The Cure- Pornography
16) The Police- Synchronicity
17) Elvis Costello- Trust
18) Bad Religion- Suffer
19) Metallica- Master Of Puppets
20) Violent Femmes- Violent Femmes
High five city.

[Brokenhill]

I felt compelled to post a top 35 ... because I like my list.

35. Pink Floyd - The Wall
34. R.E.M. - Document
33. Screeching Weasel - Boogada Boogada Boogada
32. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
31. Run-DMC - Raising Hell
30. Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today
29. The Police - Ghosts In The Machine
28. U2 - The Joshua Tree
27. Misfits - Walk Among Us
26. Talking Heads - Remain In Light
25. Van Halen - 1984
24. Morrissey - Viva Hate
23. T.S.O.L. - Dance With Me
22. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
21. X - Los Angeles
20. Metallica - Master of Puppets
19. The Clash - Combat Rock
18. Anthrax - Among The Living
17. Pixies - Doolittle
16. Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
15. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation of Millions...
14. Husker Du - New Day Rising
13. The Smiths - The Smiths
12. Black Flag - Damaged
11. Fugazi - 13 Songs
10. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
9. Bad Religion - Suffer
8. Metallica - Ride The Lightning
7. Husker Du - Zen Arcade
6. Descendents - Milo Goes To College
5. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
4. Soundgarden - Louder Than Love
3. Michael Jackson - Thriller
2. Replacements - Let It Be
1. Paul Simon - Graceland

1979.

[Chris Fallon]

1979.
Released in 1980 - looked it up to make sure ;-)

[Troggy]

Released in 1980 - looked it up to make sure ;-)

False. I just looked it up on allmusic.com and it was released November 30th, 1979 :)

[stereomouse]

False. I just looked it up on allmusic.com and it was released November 30th, 1979 :)


dont trust allmusic, the site is full of errors. but yeah, it did come out in 1979.

um...

1 Black Flag - Damaged
2 R.E.M. - Murmur
3 Metallica - Master of Puppets
4 The Replacements - Let It Be
5 Possessed - Seven Churches
6 The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
7 Guns N Roses - Appetite for Destruction
8 Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
9 Run DMC - Raising Hell
10 Pixies - Surfer Rosa
11 Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
12 The Cure - Disintigration
13 Faith No More - The Real Thing
14 AC/DC - Back in Black
15 Joy Division - Closer
16 Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
17 Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth
18 Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
19 Michael Jackson - Thriller
20 Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime

[hockeyguitar99]

Been waiting for this one!


1) The Descendents- Milo Goes To College
2) The Replacements- Let It Be
3) The Smiths- The Queen Is Dead
4) Bruce Springsteen- Nebraska
5) Fugazi- 13 Songs
6) The Smiths- The Smiths
7) Husker Du- Zen Arcade
8) Bob Dylan- Oh Mercy
9) Marvin Gaye- Midnight Love
10)Bruce Springsteen- Born in the U.S.A.
11) Black Flag- Damaged
12) The Replacements- Tim
13) The Clash- Sandinista!
14) The Cure- Disintegration
15) The Cure- Pornography
16) The Police- Synchronicity
17) Elvis Costello- Trust
18) Bad Religion- Suffer
19) Metallica- Master Of Puppets
20) Violent Femmes- Violent Femmes

great list except i dont like metallica.

[mattybobviously]

01. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA
02. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
03. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
04. Joy Division - Closer
05. Michael Jackson - Thriller
06. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
07. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
08. Paul Simon - Graceland
09. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
10. Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes
11. Husker Du - Zen Arcade
12. The Police - Synchronicity
13. R.E.M. - Document
14. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
15. The Descendents - Milo Goes to College
16. The Smiths - The Smiths
17. Marvin Gaye - Midnight Love
18. Pixies - Surfer Rosa
19. Daniel Johnston - Hi, How Are You
20. Talking Heads - Remain in Light

[allhourcymbals]

1. The Descendents - Milo Goes To College
2. The Clash - Sandinista!
3. Elvis Costello - Trust
4. The Specials - More Specials
5. The Beat - I Just Can't Stop It
6. Bob Marley - Legend
7. The Pogues - If I Should Fall From Grace With God
8. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
9. Guns N Roses - Appetite For Destruction
10. Pixies - Surfa Rosa
11. Metallica - Master Of Puppets
12. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
13. De La Soul - 3 Feet High And Rising
14. Operation Ivy - Energy
15. Michael Jackson - Thriller
16. Split Enz - True Colours
17. The Blues Brothers - The Blues Brothers
18. Judas Priest - British Steel
19. Led Zeppelin - Coda
20. Electric Light Orchestra - Time

[versus_god]

You kids with your Descendents love, making me proud.

[SanePsychotic]

I felt compelled to post a top 35 ... because I like my list.

35. Pink Floyd - The Wall
34. R.E.M. - Document
33. Screeching Weasel - Boogada Boogada Boogada
32. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
31. Run-DMC - Raising Hell
30. Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today
29. The Police - Ghosts In The Machine
28. U2 - The Joshua Tree
27. Misfits - Walk Among Us
26. Talking Heads - Remain In Light
25. Van Halen - 1984
24. Morrissey - Viva Hate
23. T.S.O.L. - Dance With Me
22. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
21. X - Los Angeles
20. Metallica - Master of Puppets
19. The Clash - Combat Rock
18. Anthrax - Among The Living
17. Pixies - Doolittle
16. Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
15. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation of Millions...
14. Husker Du - New Day Rising
13. The Smiths - The Smiths
12. Black Flag - Damaged
11. Fugazi - 13 Songs
10. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
9. Bad Religion - Suffer
8. Metallica - Ride The Lightning
7. Husker Du - Zen Arcade
6. Descendents - Milo Goes To College
5. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
4. Soundgarden - Louder Than Love
3. Michael Jackson - Thriller
2. Replacements - Let It Be
1. Paul Simon - Graceland

Good list. I'm glad someone put Doolittle instead of Surfer Rosa.

[bradyreier]

I'm pretty pumped for Brady's list of all Smiths releases in the top 5 haha.
Haha, I definitely could do that, but I'll try make a fair list.

[allhourcymbals]

You kids with your Descendents love, making me proud.
I like I Don't Want To Grow Up better, but I figured more people would put this one.

[versus_god]

I like I Don't Want To Grow Up better, but I figured more people would put this one.
I was going to put both on my list but decided against it for the same reason. I think the Descendents really stepped into their own with that record. The melodic tracks on the second half of the album are brilliant and really set the bar for future pop-punk bands.

[bradyreier]

I wish I could post my list sooner, but I'm on my way to Canada right now and won't be back in the States until Monday.

[allhourcymbals]

I was going to put both on my list but decided against it for the same reason. I think the Descendents really stepped into their own with that record. The melodic tracks on the second half of the album are brilliant and really set the bar for future pop-punk bands.
I'm not a huge, huge Descendents fan, but I Don't Want To Grow Up was the one that got me into them, and that was the only record for a long time and I never got sick of it. It's always the one I recommend to people that want to check them out. More individual tracks stick out for me.

[AlternateToLife]

great list except i dont like metallica.

Your choice, your choice.

High five city.

:highfive: Never get tired of that album. Never.

[AlternateToLife]

1. The Descendents - Milo Goes To College
2. The Clash - Sandinista!
3. Elvis Costello - Trust
4. The Specials - More Specials
5. The Beat - I Just Can't Stop It
6. Bob Marley - Legend
7. The Pogues - If I Should Fall From Grace With God
8. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
9. Guns N Roses - Appetite For Destruction
10. Pixies - Surfa Rosa
11. Metallica - Master Of Puppets
12. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
13. De La Soul - 3 Feet High And Rising
14. Operation Ivy - Energy
15. Michael Jackson - Thriller
16. Squeeze - Argy Bargy
17. The Blues Brothers - The Blues Brothers
18. Judas Priest - British Steel
19. Led Zeppelin - Coda
20. Electric Light Orchestra - Time

:nod: not bad, not bad. Surfa Rosa was my 21, and If I Should Fall From Grace with God my 22. So I guess that's my "special mentions" post.

[IWasaCamera]

Can't believe how much Nebraska has caught on here.

[micahistheballs]

Everyone's scared Ben will call them out on it if it doesn't. I really can't see it as essential at all.

[IWasaCamera]

Probably. Only reason it's on mine is because I love it so much. Not particularly essential.

I was among those who recommended it to him anyway so I'm safe. :-)

[MyWorldEntire]

Looks like I need to listen to Born in the USA

[CellarGhosts]

1. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
2. Descendents - Milo Goes To College
3. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
4. Black Flag - Damaged
5. Fugazi - 13 Songs
6. Minor Threat - Out Of Step
7. Husker Du - Zen Arcade
8. Bad Brains - Bad Brains
9. Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime
10. The Replacements - Tim
11. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
12. Rites Of Spring - End On End
13. Operation Ivy - Energy
14. Bad Religion - No Control
15. Circle Jerks - Group Sex
16. The Pixies - Surfer Rosa
17. Flipper - Generic
18. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & The Lash
19. Dead Milkmen - Big Lizard In My Backyard
20. Mission Of Burma - Vs.

bam.
:thumbup:

I'll be putting the 'Mats higher than Husker Du though.

[Regards]

I'm a little supprised that the Violent Femmes aren't getting too many votes.

[Logan95]

1. Metallica-Master of Puppets
2. Guns N Roses-Appetite For Destruction
3. Operation Ivy-Energy
4. Nirvana-Bleach
5. Social Distortion-Mommy's Little Monster
6. N.W.A.-Straight Outta Compton
7. Descendants-Milo Goes to College
8. Sepultura-Beneath the Remains
9. Michael Jackson-Thriller
10.Soundgarden-Louder Than Love

[born to expire]

6.) Judge - Chung King Can Suck It


Why put Chung King?

The quality is shit compared the Bringin' It Down. The drums are ridiculously thin. Bringin' It Down is so sick.

[xmadeofstonex]

Why put Chung King?

The quality is shit compared the Bringin' It Down. The drums are ridiculously thin. Bringin' It Down is so sick.

There are some things I like about Bringin' It Down more but i think Chung King is just exceptionally more pissed, I dunno, Bringin' It Down is awesome but it just doesn't hit you nearly as hard as the stuff on Chung King. I fucking love that one song, Where It Went I think is the name, that basically combined No Apologies and that other song. I also think the Bringin' It Down version of I've Lost is the best version. But I dunno, I mean Bringin' It Down has some cool guitar work but I think part of what makes Judge so great is how in your face and pissed it is and some of that is lost on Bringin' It Down.

[born to expire]

There are some things I like about Bringin' It Down more but i think Chung King is just exceptionally more pissed, I dunno, Bringin' It Down is awesome but it just doesn't hit you nearly as hard as the stuff on Chung King. I fucking love that one song, Where It Went I think is the name, that basically combined No Apologies and that other song. I also think the Bringin' It Down version of I've Lost is the best version. But I dunno, I mean Bringin' It Down has some cool guitar work but I think part of what makes Judge so great is how in your face and pissed it is and some of that is lost on Bringin' It Down.

Chung King just reminds me of the first 7", which I think is a piece of shit. Bringin' It Down and the last 7" are killer. The Zeppelin cover is so good.

[xmadeofstonex]

I LOVE that last 7" "Forget This Time" is such a good song, I love the first 7" too, Fed Up and In My Way are some of the best straight edge songs ever.

[allhourcymbals]

:nod: not bad, not bad. Surfa Rosa was my 21, and If I Should Fall From Grace with God my 22. So I guess that's my "special mentions" post.
I can see not putting the Pogues on there, but leaving out Surfer Rosa? That should be higher haha.

[Until The Bombs]

I love Milo Goes to College as much as anyone, but seeing it placed above Thriller on so many lists (amongst other albums such as Joshua Tree) is disgusting.

[allhourcymbals]

I love Milo Goes to College as much as anyone, but seeing it placed above Thriller on so many lists (amongst other albums such as Joshua Tree) is disgusting.
For me, personal preference had a lot to do with that. I can't stand Michael Jackson whereas I grew up on Descendents and still love them.

[Until The Bombs]

For me, personal preference had a lot to do with that. I can't stand Michael Jackson whereas I grew up on Descendents and still love them.

I expect everyone's personal preference to shine through but not at the complete ignoring of objectivity. It is a very influential and important album in its own right and belongs on everyone's list, but just not as high as I'm seeing it placed.

[CellarGhosts]

Thriller is really overrated. Good pop album with some great songs but I could care less about it as a whole.

[allhourcymbals]

Thriller is really overrated. Good pop album with some great songs but I could care less about it as a whole.
Everytime I hear Thriller, I want to listen to Dirty Creature. It's so much better.

[CellarGhosts]

Everytime I hear Thriller, I want to listen to Dirty Creature. It's so much better.
Haha, I still don't get all the fuss about Split Enz at all either. The Finn's solo stuff is great though.

[born to expire]

I forgot Dag Nasty and Jane's Addiction. Agh.

[AlternateToLife]

I love Milo Goes to College as much as anyone, but seeing it placed above Thriller on so many lists (amongst other albums such as Joshua Tree) is disgusting.

I can definitely see how influential it is. But with so many great albums on the list that I actually enjoy, I couldn't get myself to put it on my list.

[xmadeofstonex]

It's blowing my mind that someone actually think Thriller deserves to be on a list like this, like I'm not saying it's bad or there's something wrong with liking it but do people really think it's one of the best albums of the 1980s?

I agree with AlternateToLife

[Until The Bombs]

I can definitely see how influential it is. But with so many great albums on the list that I actually enjoy, I couldn't get myself to put it on my list.

Everyone's gonna take their own taste into consideration, but ultimately that's not he point of these lists. As the thread starter's instructions state:

The most essential being what you feel are the most essential to a music fan to understand the history and evolution of what we listen to today.

How can Thriller not be a guaranteed top 10, even when taking personal preference into consideration?

[xmadeofstonex]

I don't care about the music that Thriller influenced. Anyone with a brain shouldn't care about the music Thriller influenced.

[Until The Bombs]

It's blowing my mind that someone actually think Thriller deserves to be on a list like this, like I'm not saying it's bad or there's something wrong with liking it but do people really think it's one of the best albums of the 1980s?

I agree with AlternateToLife

Again, the purpose of this thread:


The most essential being what you feel are the most essential to a music fan to understand the history and evolution of what we listen to today.


Not list your top 20 most punx albums from the 80's.

And yes, given all the acclaim it received, records it's broke and influence it has had, it is one of the best albums of the 80's, but in relation to this thread, it is essential in understanding how we got from point A in music to point B.

[CellarGhosts]

There are so many albums from the 80's that are better than Thriller.

[Tyler Revolution]

1. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
2. Taking Heads - Remain In Light
3. The Stones Roses - Self-Titled
4. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
5. Pixies - Dolittle
6. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden
7. The Replacements - Let It Be
8. Descendents - Milo Goes to College
9. R.E.M. - Murmur
10. Eric B. and Rakim - Paid in Full
11. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
12. Violent Femmes - Self-Titled
13. Paul Simon - Graceland
14. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
15. Joy Division - Closer
16. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
17. Dead Kennedy's - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
18. The Cure - Disintegration
19. Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade
20. Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime

[Tyler Revolution]

There are so many albums from the 80's that are better than Thriller.

Haha, definitely. Michael Jackson is only essential in influencing awful pop music.

[CellarGhosts]

1. Rain Dogs - Tom Waits
2. Tim - The Replacements
3. If I Should Fall From Grace With God - The Pogues
4. Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables - Dead Kennedys
5. Born In the USA - Bruce Springsteen
6. Suffer - Bad Religion
7. Let It Be - The Replacements
8. Swordfishtrombones - Tom Waits
9. Rum, Sodomy & the Lash - the Pogues
10. Nebraska - Bruce Springsteen
11. Milo Goes to College - Descendents
12. Graceland - Paul Simon
13. Thriller - Michael Jackson
14. Appetite For Destruction - Guns N' Roses
15. Surfer Rosa - The Pixies
16. New Day Rising - Husker Du
17. Damaged - Black Flag
18. The Queen Is Dead - the Smiths
19. Purple Rain - Prince & The Revolution
20. Back In Black - AC/DC

Honorable mentions:

Synchronicity - the Police
Straight Outta Compton - NWA
Murmur - REM
Doolittle - Pixies
Disintegration - the Cure

I might end up switching some of these around. It was hard to limit it to just 20, ha.

[CellarGhosts]

Haha, definitely. Michael Jackson is only essential in influencing awful pop music.
Haha, yes. I can agree with this. While I do like Thriller, it's by no means the greatest thing to come out of the 80's.

[Tyler Revolution]

I felt compelled to post a top 35 ... because I like my list.

35. Pink Floyd - The Wall
34. R.E.M. - Document
33. Screeching Weasel - Boogada Boogada Boogada
32. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
31. Run-DMC - Raising Hell
30. Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today
29. The Police - Ghosts In The Machine
28. U2 - The Joshua Tree
27. Misfits - Walk Among Us
26. Talking Heads - Remain In Light
25. Van Halen - 1984
24. Morrissey - Viva Hate
23. T.S.O.L. - Dance With Me
22. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
21. X - Los Angeles
20. Metallica - Master of Puppets
19. The Clash - Combat Rock
18. Anthrax - Among The Living
17. Pixies - Doolittle
16. Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
15. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation of Millions...
14. Husker Du - New Day Rising
13. The Smiths - The Smiths
12. Black Flag - Damaged
11. Fugazi - 13 Songs
10. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
9. Bad Religion - Suffer
8. Metallica - Ride The Lightning
7. Husker Du - Zen Arcade
6. Descendents - Milo Goes To College
5. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
4. Soundgarden - Louder Than Love
3. Michael Jackson - Thriller
2. Replacements - Let It Be
1. Paul Simon - Graceland

Not that it matters, but The Wall is from '79.

Edit: This was already established. I apologize.

[bowl of oranges]

1. The Smiths- The Queen is Dead
2. The Cure- Disintegration
3. Fugazi- 13 Songs
4. The Cure- Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
5. Black Flag- Damaged
6. Paul Simon- Graceland
7. Sonic Youth- Daydream Nation
8. The Smiths- Meat Is Murder
9. Pixies- Doolittle
10. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me
11. Jane's Addiction- Nothing Shocking
12. Nine Inch Nails- Pretty Hate Machine
13. Pixies- Surfer Rosa
14. Talk Talk- Spirit of Eden
15. U2- The Joshua Tree
16. Violent Femmes- s/t
17. The Cure- Head on the Door
18. The Cure- Pornography
19. The Police- Synchronicity
20. U2- The Unforgettable Fire

[chipdip18]

It's nice to see some influencial rap/hip hop artists on these lists.

[secretsociety92]

1. Quiet Riot - Metal Health
2. Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Oz
3. Def Leppard - Hysteria
4. AC/DC - Back In Black
5. Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet
6. Aerosmith - Pump
7. Judas Priest - British Steel
8. The Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
9. INXS - Kick
10. Guns 'n Roses - Appetite for Destruction
11. Midnight Oil - Diesel and Dust
12. Def Leppard - Pyromania
13. Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast
14. W.A.S.P. - W.A.S.P.
15. Van Halen - 1984
16. Marillion - Misplaced Childhood
17. Queen - The Works
18. Iron Maiden - Killers
19. The Sisters of Mercy - First and Last and Always
20. Iron Maiden - Powerslave

[IWasaCamera]

I'm a little supprised that the Violent Femmes aren't getting too many votes.
The self-titled is appearing fairly frequently.




Thriller should make the final list. As stated earlier, this isn't a best of the 80's. It's a list that compiles the albums you deem most important to music history.

[xmadeofstonex]

The self-titled is appearing fairly frequently.




Thriller should make the final list. As stated earlier, this isn't a best of the 80's. It's a list that compiles the albums you deem most important to music history.

That's retarded for the following reasons:

A.) I'm not qualified to judge what's important to music history for a lot of different types of music. I don't listen to much rap/hip-hop so I'm not going to throw Public Enemy or NWA on there just for posterity.

B.) I think ranking things based on how "influential" they are gets to be pretty absurd and I think if you're going to do it by that then you might as well just get rid of the rating systems and just have people write out 20 records they think are influential in no order.

[oranjeman]

Thank you Until the Bombs.

Thriller is #1 for me because it defines 80s popular music (which is not at all a reflection of my personal favorites of the 80s). And how many people do you know who have actually listened to it? Thriller is the best-selling album of all time (and produced what is widely considered the greatest music video ever), how could you NOT put it on a list like this?

People need to re-read the first post of this thread...

[chipdip18]

Haha, definitely. Michael Jackson is only essential in influencing awful pop music.

Yes, but he, with that record, is incredibly influencial to do that, and should make this list.

[CellarGhosts]

meh, it is still overrated.

[Until The Bombs]

That's retarded for the following reasons:

A.) I'm not qualified to judge what's important to music history for a lot of different types of music. I don't listen to much rap/hip-hop so I'm not going to throw Public Enemy or NWA on there just for posterity.

No shit. None of us are really qualified, but that's the point of the thread and it's worked relatively well through the 60's and 70's so far.

B.) I think ranking things based on how "influential" they are gets to be pretty absurd and I think if you're going to do it by that then you might as well just get rid of the rating systems and just have people write out 20 records they think are influential in no order.


Except the order comes into play with the point system (outlined in the first post) that determines the final list.

[oranjeman]

A.) I'm not qualified to judge what's important to music history for a lot of different types of music. I don't listen to much rap/hip-hop so I'm not going to throw Public Enemy or NWA on there just for posterity.
Well sorry but that is kind of the purpose of these threads....

[oranjeman]

meh, it is still overrated.
How? You would be hard pressed to find anyone who would call it the best album artistically or musically. But you can't argue with it's influence when it's sold 100+ million.

[CellarGhosts]

How? You would be hard pressed to find anyone who would call it the best album of any decade/genre artistically or musically. But you can't argue with it's influence when it's sold 100+ million.
If we're talking influence, then yeah, that's all fine. I'm not going to argue with 100+ million sales. I just don't care much for the music itself. A few of the songs on there are great but overall I have never been that impressed with it.

It's just odd to me how all the best music happening in the 80's was the stuff hardly anyone paid attention to, with the exception of a few, such as Bruce Springsteen or Paul Simon. I just think as far as how good the actual albums are, there is no way in hell this album deserves to be ranked higher than the likes of Waits, or Springsteen, or bands like the Replacements or what have you.

[Regards]

These aren't rankings based on listening, as much as they are based of music history. You don't need to listen to rap to know that NWA influenced rap. The point of these aren't based on favorites, but what scoped music that we know today.

With that being said, you have to put Thriller up there becuase of where pop music went with it, and where it is now today.

[chipdip18]

These aren't rankings based on listening, as much as they are based of music history. You don't need to listen to rap to know that NWA influenced rap. The point of these aren't based on favorites, but what scoped music that we know today.

With that being said, you have to put Thriller up there becuase of where pop music went with it, and where it is now today.

+1

[born to expire]

As for the rap on my list...

The only reason I put NWA on my list is because of how much they influenced "gangsta" rap in the 90s. NWA had a few good songs and the rest is sort of ehh... but without them there would definitely not be a Wu-Tang or a Mobb Deep, for example.

Beastie Boys I threw on there because of the sheer amount of sampling that was done on that album. "Rhymin and Stealin" takes the beat of "When The Levee Breaks" and matches it to "Sweet Leaf" for example. Pretty incredible.

Run DMC gave rap some backbone and those guitar riffs are undeniably amazing. Great group.

Eric B and Rakim... I don't even know where to start. Rakim's flow is out of this world.

I wish I could have added more rap like Boogie Down Productions and LL Cool J, but whatever.

[IWasaCamera]

That's retarded for the following reasons:

A.) I'm not qualified to judge what's important to music history for a lot of different types of music. I don't listen to much rap/hip-hop so I'm not going to throw Public Enemy or NWA on there just for posterity.

B.) I think ranking things based on how "influential" they are gets to be pretty absurd and I think if you're going to do it by that then you might as well just get rid of the rating systems and just have people write out 20 records they think are influential in no order.
A.) You think attempting to craft an objective list of essential albums is "retarded" because your taste doesn't span the whole gamut? No idea why you'd mention posterity either.

B.) Absurd how? And why would we get rid of the order simply because this isn't a best of list? It shouldn't be particularly difficult for anyone to rank albums by importance. Besides, the final list is entirely predicated on the order.
meh, it is still overrated.
Thinking this is fine. Claiming that it isn't influential however, is downright preposterous.

[Brokenhill]

Released in 1980 - looked it up to make sure ;-)

Of all people to distrust too...I mean why wouldn't I know the date of my favorite album's release?

False. I just looked it up on allmusic.com and it was released November 30th, 1979 :)


Yep.

The movie was released in October of '82 though...and I the live version of The Wall was recorded in 80/81.

So Chris, if you want to replace 35 with Is There Anybody Out There?, be my guest.

[allhourcymbals]

A.) You think attempting to craft an objective list of essential albums is "retarded" because your taste doesn't span the whole gamut? No idea why you'd mention posterity either.

B.) Absurd how? And why would we get rid of the order simply because this isn't a best of list? It shouldn't be particularly difficult for anyone to rank albums by importance. Besides, the final list is entirely predicated on the order.

Thinking this is fine. Claiming that it isn't influential however, is downright preposterous.
If something is influential in a bad way though, it's not going to make my list since I wouldn't consider it 'essential'.

[IWasaCamera]

If something is influential in a bad way though, it's not going to make my list since I wouldn't consider it 'essential'.
These are "essential" albums by Micah's definition of the term, which would be "what you feel are the most essential to a music fan to understand the history and evolution of what we listen to today."

Extending your logic, Talk Talk should be omitted as well because they inspired the steaming pile of feces that is Thrice. The Descendents led to complete crap like The Ataris. Bruce led to countless dull radio acts. The Smiths directly influenced Brand New. U2---->Angels And Airwaves. Hell, Tom Waits created the monster that is Scarlett Johansson. All mediocre contributions that aren't any worse than acts that take after MJ. Sure, his influence may have been negative. What isn't acceptable is singling Thriller out as if it's the only album to ever spawn poor music.

[GuitarR0cker1]

1. Metallica- Master of Puppets
2. Sonic Youth- Daydream Nation
3. Mudhoney- Boiled Beef and Rotten Teeth
4. the Melvins- Gluey Porch Elements
5. the Dead Kennedys- Frankenchrist
6. the Descendants- All
7. Nirvana- Bleach
8. the Ramones- Too Tough To Die
9. Metallica- And Justice For All...
10. the Descendants- Enjoy!

Just ten for now...

[allhourcymbals]

These are "essential" albums by Micah's definition of the term, which would be "what you feel are the most essential to a music fan to understand the history and evolution of what we listen to today."

Extending your logic, Talk Talk should be omitted as well because they inspired the steaming pile of feces that is Thrice. The Descendents led to complete crap like The Ataris. Bruce led to countless dull radio acts. The Smiths directly influenced Brand New. U2---->Angels And Airwaves. Hell, Tom Waits created the monster that is Scarlett Johansson. All mediocre contributions that aren't any worse than acts that take after MJ. Sure, his influence may have been negative. What isn't acceptable is singling Thriller out as if it's the only album to ever spawn poor music.
No, I understand what you're saying but I'm still going to put albums I actually enjoy over ones that I think are overrated and wouldn't recommend to anyone in a million years.

[IWasaCamera]

No, I understand what you're saying but I'm still going to put albums I actually enjoy over ones that I think are overrated and wouldn't recommend to anyone in a million years.
I understand your position. It's just that unless I'm mistaken, we're trying to construct a list that places more emphasis on objectivity than subjectivity. Personal preference will obviously play a part but it should be limited.

[Yes. And?]

Looking forward to the 90s thread, should be interesting.

[chipdip18]

Looking forward to the 90s thread, should be interesting.

Me too. I think i'll actually be able to post a list in that one!

[Yes. And?]

I might be able to, as well, but I probably won't. I prefer to lurk. :-D

[CellarGhosts]

A.) You think attempting to craft an objective list of essential albums is "retarded" because your taste doesn't span the whole gamut? No idea why you'd mention posterity either.

B.) Absurd how? And why would we get rid of the order simply because this isn't a best of list? It shouldn't be particularly difficult for anyone to rank albums by importance. Besides, the final list is entirely predicated on the order.

Thinking this is fine. Claiming that it isn't influential however, is downright preposterous.
I see.

I don't think I ever said it wasn't influnetuial though. If I gave that impression somewhere, that wasn't intended at all. As I do recognize that it's influential, but again, I just don't see why it's so immensly popular.

[chipdip18]

I might be able to, as well, but I probably won't. I prefer to lurk. :-D


Haha i absolutely love lurking through these threads. I actually learn a lot and its fun watching intense discussions.

[GuitarR0cker1]

Looking forward to the 90s thread, should be interesting.
Yeah most definatley.

[allhourcymbals]

Haha i absolutely love lurking through these threads. I actually learn a lot and its fun watching intense discussions.
I learn a lot from these threads too haha. I have no idea what I'm going to put for 90s though.

[bowl of oranges]

i am excited for the 90's thread as well

[CellarGhosts]

90's thread will be brutal.

[chipdip18]

I learn a lot from these threads too haha. I have no idea what I'm going to put for 90s though.

Well unfortunately i'll put some of the crappier mainstream artists who helped progess the ugly pop littering the mainstream today. But i'll but some midwestern indie in there (Sunny Day Real Estate, Cap'n Jazz etc.) and some Nirvana.

[allhourcymbals]

I wonder how much more (or less?) diverse the lists will be.

[CellarGhosts]

I'm honestly not really looking forward to the 90's that much. Mostly because I will get shunned for not putting Radiohead at number one.

[allhourcymbals]

I'm honestly not really looking forward to the 90's that much. Mostly because I will get shunned for not putting Radiohead at number one.
They'll be pretty high up in my list, but not number one. I can't wait to say Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys.

[GuitarR0cker1]

I'm honestly not really looking forward to the 90's that much. Mostly because I will get shunned for not putting Radiohead at number one.
Radiohead is overrated but I still think they are good. I am pretty sure there are a sizeable minority on AP that think this.

[chipdip18]

I wonder how much more (or less?) diverse the lists will be.

Yeah, that is a good question. I mean we are kind of running in to that problem in this thread, because most people do not want to acknowledge Thriller in their lists, yet that album was quite influencial, but influenced some distasteful pop music. (Read the last page or so haha) And their are some albums of the 90's i'm sure that influenced pop music later that people won't want to recognize. But i think most people will recognize Emo (real Emo), midwestern indie, and i'm sure i'm forgetting other important ones.

I'm honestly not really looking forward to the 90's that much. Mostly because I will get shunned for not putting Radiohead at number one.

Haha this is definitely true. Just as long as its on there, right?

[allhourcymbals]

Yeah, that is a good question. I mean we are kind of running in to that problem in this thread, because most people do not want to acknowledge Thriller in their lists, yet that album was quite influencial, but influenced some distasteful pop music. (Read the last page or so haha) And their are some albums of the 90's i'm sure that influenced pop music later that people won't want to recognize. But i think most people will recognize Emo (real Emo), midwestern indie, and i'm sure i'm forgetting other important ones.



Haha this is definitely true. Just as long as its on there, right?
What was I saying before, about preference being more influential when making the lists? There will probably be much, much more of this in the 90s. People know more about bands that influence the ones that they listen to. I'd be surprised if a large majority of answers overlapped.

[chipdip18]

What was I saying before, about preference being more influential when making the lists? There will probably be much, much more of this in the 90s. People know more about bands that influence the ones that they listen to. I'd be surprised if a large majority of answers overlapped.

You know what, i think you are right.

[CellarGhosts]

Yeah, that is a good question. I mean we are kind of running in to that problem in this thread, because most people do not want to acknowledge Thriller in their lists, yet that album was quite influencial, but influenced some distasteful pop music. (Read the last page or so haha) And their are some albums of the 90's i'm sure that influenced pop music later that people won't want to recognize. But i think most people will recognize Emo (real Emo), midwestern indie, and i'm sure i'm forgetting other important ones.



Haha this is definitely true. Just as long as its on there, right?
Haha, yeah they'll be on there. Just not that high.

Radiohead is overrated but I still think they are good. I am pretty sure there are a sizeable minority on AP that think this.
I'm in that minority.

They'll be pretty high up in my list, but not number one. I can't wait to say Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys.
Hahaha, nice. I'd laugh if one of them was in the top 10. and then cry.

[allhourcymbals]

Haha, yeah they'll be on there. Just not that high.


I'm in that minority.


Hahaha, nice. I'd laugh if one of them was in the top 10. and then cry.
It's more than likely they'll be in the top 10... unless that's just because of where I live that I think that.

[micahistheballs]

These are "essential" albums by Micah's definition of the term, which would be "what you feel are the most essential to a music fan to understand the history and evolution of what we listen to today."

Extending your logic, Talk Talk should be omitted as well because they inspired the steaming pile of feces that is Thrice. The Descendents led to complete crap like The Ataris. Bruce led to countless dull radio acts. The Smiths directly influenced Brand New. U2---->Angels And Airwaves. Hell, Tom Waits created the monster that is Scarlett Johansson. All mediocre contributions that aren't any worse than acts that take after MJ. Sure, his influence may have been negative. What isn't acceptable is singling Thriller out as if it's the only album to ever spawn poor music.

Do you think that definition of essential is good enough for our purposes?

Yeah, speaking of negative contributions, none is a better example than Nirvana. They spawned Nickelback and Creed. Enough said (although one is a fool to discount their influence)

I'm honestly not really looking forward to the 90's that much. Mostly because I will get shunned for not putting Radiohead at number one.

Radiohead's my favourite band and they won't be my number one either.

[El_Jeffe]

hate on thriller.... what the?! now i've seen it all

it did sooo much more than influence a generation of poor pop artists. jacko fused soo many genres & styles to record on of the most ever-present & inescapable albums of all-time. utilizing the skills of a number of great musical talents & producers. the songs are versatile & efficient, the album has something for everyone. thriller album was a musical phenomenon. jacko & the album transformed the whole concept of music videos. the dance routines that were to come have influenced every subsequent generation, his songs still live on & are enjoyed around the world probably just as much as the day they were released. one of a very few times where a multitude of hits actually reflects consistent quality

[CellarGhosts]

It's more than likely they'll be in the top 10... unless that's just because of where I live that I think that.
No, they will be, for sure. I guarantee it haha.

Do you think that definition of essential is good enough for our purposes?

Yeah, speaking of negative contributions, none is a better example than Nirvana. They spawned Nickelback and Creed. Enough said (although one is a fool to discount their influence)



Radiohead's my favourite band and they won't be my number one either.
I don't even know who my top choice will be yet at all, haha. It might be my toughest list yet.

[GuitarR0cker1]

Do you think that definition of essential is good enough for our purposes?

Yeah, speaking of negative contributions, none is a better example than Nirvana. They spawned Nickelback and Creed. Enough said (although one is a fool to discount their influence.

I don'y know about them spawning Nickelback and Creed. I still think bands like Metallica and Led Zepellin were more responsible for this, while Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam just influenced them.

[Yes. And?]

Thriller's pretty sweet.
I predict lots of Radiohead, My Bloody Valentine, some Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana, maybe Pearl Jam...

*easy picks*

[allhourcymbals]

My Bloody Valentine? Really?

[CellarGhosts]

You're probably right.

[Yes. And?]

My Bloody Valentine? Really?
Why not.

[allhourcymbals]

My question was 'why?'

[versus_god]

1. Rain Dogs - Tom Waits
2. Let It Be - The Replacements
3. If I Should Fall From Grace With God - The Pogues
4. Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables - Dead Kennedys
5. Born In the USA - Bruce Springsteen
6. Suffer - Bad Religion
7. Let It Be - The Replacements
8. Swordfishtrombones - Tom Waits
9. Rum, Sodomy & the Lash - the Pogues
10. Nebraska - Bruce Springsteen
11. Milo Goes to College - Descendents
12. Graceland - Paul Simon
13. Thriller - Michael Jackson
14. Appetite For Destruction - Guns N' Roses
15. Surfer Rosa - The Pixies
16. New Day Rising - Husker Du
17. Damaged - Black Flag
18. The Queen Is Dead - the Smiths
19. Purple Rain - Prince & The Revolution
20. Back In Black - AC/DC

Honorable mentions:

Synchronicity - the Police
Straight Outta Compton - NWA
Murmur - REM
Doolittle - Pixies
Disintegration - the Cure

I might end up switching some of these around. It was hard to limit it to just 20, ha.
Two Let It Be's? I was expecting some hot Tim action on your list.

1. Metallica- Master of Puppets
2. Sonic Youth- Daydream Nation
3. Mudhoney- Boiled Beef and Rotten Teeth
4. the Melvins- Gluey Porch Elements
5. the Dead Kennedys- Frankenchrist
6. the Descendants- All
7. Nirvana- Bleach
8. the Ramones- Too Tough To Die
9. Metallica- And Justice For All...
10. the Descendants- Enjoy!

Just ten for now...
Way to include the two worst 'Dents records. Ever.

[Yes. And?]

My question was 'why?'
I meant to put a question mark. My question is, why not? Loveless is one of the most acclaimed albums of the 90s, why would it be surprising to see it make several appearances on lists? By regulars, anyway.

[allhourcymbals]

I meant to put a question mark. My question is, why not? Loveless is one of the most acclaimed albums of the 90s, why would it be surprising to see it make several appearances on lists? By regulars, anyway.
Because they're not nearly as influential as any of the other bands you mentioned and there's definitely more than 20 bands that would be on a list for the 90s before My Bloody Valentine.

[Yes. And?]

Hmm, I disagree and I think they'll show up at least three times in the thread, but we'll see.

[El_Jeffe]

1. paul simon - graceland
2. michael jackson - thriller
3. the smiths - the queen is dead
4. talking heads - remain in light
5. public enemy - it takes a nation of millions to hold us back
6. tom waits - rain dogs
7. r.e.m. - murmur
8. bruce springsteen - born in the usa
9. u2 - the joshua tree
10. peter gabriel - so
11. the descendents - milo goes to college
12. the pixies - doolittle
13. black uhuru - red
14. split enz - true colours
15. tracy chapman - tracy chapman
16. ladysmith black mambazo - shaka zulu
17. r. carlos nakai - canyon trilogy
18. nick cave & the bad seeds - tender prey
19. the cure - disintegration
20. fishbone - truth & soul

just missing out:
bruce springsteen - nebraska
crowded house - crowded house
minor threat - out of step
the pogues - if i should fall from grace with god
youssou n’dour – immigrés
fela kuti - the black president
king sunny ade - juju music

world music exploded (well became much more accessible & finally recognized as a force by the much of the west) during the 80's

[allhourcymbals]

fishbone was like 21 for me, but i'm rethinking a few of my choices so it might end up on there.

[El_Jeffe]

fishbone were soo huge underground & made a massive impact, even the likes of the chili peppers have sited them as influential

[allhourcymbals]

i know, maybe if i take off thriller.... haha
and did you get ahold of a phone book or something?

[El_Jeffe]

i can't believe you buggers haha. i've never known anyone to not enjoy jacko.... that's... madness! he's just the universal sounds of awesome

haven't been out yet, will soon though

[allhourcymbals]

i acknowledge that he made a huge impact on music, but i can't stand to listen to him haha.

i'm going to try again and see what happens. make sure it's not busy/on charge or anything that could mess it up haha.

[CellarGhosts]

Two Let It Be's? I was expecting some hot Tim action on your list.


Way to include the two worst 'Dents records. Ever.
Gahhhhh, one of em is supposed to be Tim! dagnumit.

well, thanks for pointing out my error! haha.

[anorexicaborted]

any skinny puppy album

[kearn1tm]

Thriller is really overrated. Good pop album with some great songs but I could care less about it as a whole.

I love when kids proclaim "[x album] is overrated" without elaborating and offering "because I say so" as their only reasoning.

There's nothing "overrated" about Thriller. It's one of the pinnacles of pop music in the last thirty years or so.

[CellarGhosts]

I love when kids proclaim "[x album] is overrated" without elaborating and offering "because I say so" as they're only reasoning.

There's nothing "overrated" about Thriller. It's one of the pinnacles of pop music in the last thirty years or so.
:rolleyes:

Good for it. I just don't care for it. Besides, Prince > Michael Jackson.

[kearn1tm]

If we're talking influence, then yeah, that's all fine. I'm not going to argue with 100+ million sales. I just don't care much for the music itself. A few of the songs on there are great but overall I have never been that impressed with it.

And that's what this boils down to.

Whether you like it or not is a moot point. Ultimately, Thriller was a flawlessly produced album that blended some Pop and R&B together with a perfectly crafted sound and some of the greatest sonic theatrics you'll ever hear in an album. It was the zeitgeist (I love that word) of the music landscape for the '80s. Whether you personally enjoyed it or not, or believe it's more or less meaningful and as "musically valid" as the Replacements or Waits is trivial. There's no denying it's one of the finest albums of it's time and a very good entry into the musical pop canon.

[kearn1tm]

:rolleyes:

Good for it. I just don't care for it. Besides, Prince > Michael Jackson.

I'm not trying to single you out, per se, but it's slightly ridiculous to claim "this album is overrated" because you personally didn't care for it. I'm not a huge Dinosaur Jr. fan, for instance (since this is the '80s thread). However, that doesn't keep me from recognizing their talent and influence on the underground music scenes of their decade.

Oh, and yes, I do believe Prince to be a superior artist than Jackson, but that's merely my opinion.

[CellarGhosts]

And that's what this boils down to.

Whether you like it or not is a moot point. Ultimately, Thriller was a flawlessly produced album that blended some Pop and R&B together with a perfectly crafted sound and some of the greatest sonic theatrics you'll ever hear in an album. It was the zeitgeist (I love that word) of the music landscape for the '80s. Whether you personally enjoyed it or not, or believe it's more or less meaningful and as "musically valid" as the Replacements or Waits is trivial. There's no denying it's one of the finest albums of it's time and a very good entry into the musical pop canon.
Okay, I do see your point there. Apologies if I came across as irate towards that album, I just don't think it was worth getting into a huge argument over, as people sort of did. If people ranked it lower on their lists, then I guess that's their prerogative. It just gets hard to really distinguish between 'favorites' and 'essential' when it says "post your essential albums from so and so era", it sort of sounds like it's asking to post what albums you feel, personally, are essential, and wouldn't that bring alot of personal preference in?

Hence why Thriller was low on my list. It is a good album like I said, I won't deny it's relevance or impact, but it just doesn't strike much of a chord with me.

[TheOtherAndrew]

I'm not trying to single you out, per se, but it's slightly ridiculous to claim "this album is overrated" because you personally didn't care for it. I'm not a huge Dinosaur Jr. fan, for instance (since this is the '80s thread). However, that doesn't keep me from recognizing their talent and influence on the underground music scenes of their decade.

Oh, and yes, I do believe Prince to be a superior artist than Jackson, but that's merely my opinion.
Thriller is overrated because it has been proclaimed by pop and R&B fans to be everything short of the second coming of Christ. Its a solid album, and it deserves a lot of praise, but it isn't worth ALL of the hype that it gets. Few things do.

Better?

[CellarGhosts]

I'm not trying to single you out, per se, but it's slightly ridiculous to claim "this album is overrated" because you personally didn't care for it. I'm not a huge Dinosaur Jr. fan, for instance (since this is the '80s thread). However, that doesn't keep me from recognizing their talent and influence on the underground music scenes of their decade.

Oh, and yes, I do believe Prince to be a superior artist than Jackson, but that's merely my opinion.
Okay, I understand. I guess it was a little hasty of me to call it "overrated". But yeah, it's all good. I definitely see what you're saying.

[allhourcymbals]

I'm not trying to single you out, per se, but it's slightly ridiculous to claim "this album is overrated" because you personally didn't care for it. I'm not a huge Dinosaur Jr. fan, for instance (since this is the '80s thread). However, that doesn't keep me from recognizing their talent and influence on the underground music scenes of their decade.

Oh, and yes, I do believe Prince to be a superior artist than Jackson, but that's merely my opinion.
When I say Thriller is overrated, it's probably because it has always been shoved in my face with a note attached to it saying 'If you don't love this album, you don't know what good music is and don't deserve to live'. It doesn't appeal to me in the least bit and the fact that it's supposedly under a universal agreement that it's one of the best albums of all time is a little ridiculous.

[allhourcymbals]

How the fuck did you guys post all that while I was typing mine? Dammit.

[CellarGhosts]

How the fuck did you guys post all that while I was typing mine? Dammit.
Because all that marijuana slows you down. duh.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Because all that marijuana slows you down. duh.
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[allhourcymbals]

Because all that marijuana slows you down. duh.
stop using what i tell you against me!

[TheOtherAndrew]

stop using what i tell you against me!
take some time to think
figure out what's important to you

[versus_god]

http://www.treehugger.com/buygreen-bravespace-hollow-dining-table.jpg

[CellarGhosts]

take some time to think
figure out what's important to you
hahahaha.

:appl:

stop using what i tell you against me!
are you drinking Irish tonight?

[TheOtherAndrew]

http://www.treehugger.com/buygreen-bravespace-hollow-dining-table.jpg
STARBUCKZ WiNDOW LOL

[allhourcymbals]

i get it now.

[kearn1tm]

Thriller is overrated because it has been proclaimed by pop and R&B fans to be everything short of the second coming of Christ. Its a solid album, and it deserves a lot of praise, but it isn't worth ALL of the hype that it gets. Few things do.

Better?

Not really.

It's a pop album. Good pop albums get tremendous amounts of praise. Transcendental albums receive copious amounts of praise. Thriller was one of the rare Pop albums that transcends its genre and receives universal praise. It isn't a solid album, it's a great pop record which is why the praise is merited.

When I say Thriller is overrated, it's probably because it has always been shoved in my face with a note attached to it saying 'If you don't love this album, you don't know what good music is and don't deserve to live'. It doesn't appeal to me in the least bit and the fact that it's supposedly under a universal agreement that it's one of the best albums of all time is a little ridiculous.

You're confusing your subjective dislike of the album with the objective quality, nature and scope of such an album.

I understand it's almost natural to try and rebel against something that's both universally praised and ubiquitous, but if you look at many albums that have enjoyed nearly unanimous kudos, there's usually a reason for it.

[allhourcymbals]

Not really.

It's a pop album. Good pop albums get tremendous amounts of praise. Transcendental albums receive copious amounts of praise. Thriller was one of the rare Pop albums that transcends its genre and receives universal praise. It isn't a solid album, it's a great pop record which is why the praise is merited.



You're confusing your subjective dislike of the album with the objective quality and nature of such an album.

I understand it's almost natural to try and rebel against something that's both universally praised and ubiquitous, but if you look at many albums that have enjoyed nearly unanimous kudos, there's usually a reason for it.
I'm not confusing it, I know the difference. Despite the fact that I don't personally enjoy the album, I know how much of an imact it had, and I still don't think it should be as 'universally praised' as it is. The 'rebelling' part is just to not want to put it on my list.

[SanePsychotic]

This thread is so entertaining, even when I have a huge headache.

I might post in the 90s thread, but I sincerely doubt it since I'm not that knowledgeable of the 90s as a whole (meaning all genres).

Damn, I need to become really fluent in some random genre/subgenre and be the self-proclaimed master of it. That would make me feel better.

[kearn1tm]

I'm not confusing it, I know the difference. Despite the fact that I don't personally enjoy the album, I know how much of an imact it had, and I still don't think it should be as 'universally praised' as it is. The 'rebelling' part is just to not want to put it on my list.

Not wanting something to be "as universally praised" is an oxymoron. There isn't a "level" of "universal praise" because, if it's universal, it's, well, universal, as in EVERYONE likes it, hence the use of "universal."

I'm not saying it's a conscious "rebellion" either, but there's an inherent desire for people to disapprove of something when it becomes so omniscient and ever-present in addition to be nearly unanimously loved.

Ultimately, no matter what your feelings are, it's mind boggling to me that someone could deliberately leave Thriller off an "Essential '80s" list. It's an album that's the very essence of the musical landscape of the '80s, regardless what your personal feelings are about the level of hype or quality of the album.

[IWasaCamera]

I see.

I don't think I ever said it wasn't influnetuial though. If I gave that impression somewhere, that wasn't intended at all. As I do recognize that it's influential, but again, I just don't see why it's so immensly popular.
It's well crafted memorable pop music.
Radiohead is overrated but I still think they are good. I am pretty sure there are a sizeable minority on AP that think this.
Virtually every pop-punk kid shares this sentiment.
Do you think that definition of essential is good enough for our purposes?
It more than suffices.
it did sooo much more than influence a generation of poor pop artists. jacko fused soo many genres & styles to record on of the most ever-present & inescapable albums of all-time. utilizing the skills of a number of great musical talents & producers. the songs are versatile & efficient, the album has something for everyone. thriller album was a musical phenomenon. jacko & the album transformed the whole concept of music videos. the dance routines that were to come have influenced every subsequent generation, his songs still live on & are enjoyed around the world probably just as much as the day they were released. one of a very few times where a multitude of hits actually reflects consistent quality
This.
Whether you like it or not is a moot point. Ultimately, Thriller was a flawlessly produced album that blended some Pop and R&B together with a perfectly crafted sound and some of the greatest sonic theatrics you'll ever hear in an album. It was the zeitgeist (I love that word) of the music landscape for the '80s. Whether you personally enjoyed it or not, or believe it's more or less meaningful and as "musically valid" as the Replacements or Waits is trivial. There's no denying it's one of the finest albums of it's time and a very good entry into the musical pop canon.
And this.
My Bloody Valentine? Really?
Probably the number one namedrop band I expect to see on just about everyone's list.

[allhourcymbals]

Probably the number one namedrop band I expect to see on just about everyone's list.

Why do you say this? I never even heard of this band until a few months ago, and they don't sound like anything special at all to me. What have they done that's influential or even any different than other bands in their genre?

[mattybobviously]

I think 90's is going to be hilarious. On occasion through these lists I've seen some selections that have made me think "what the fuck?" in regard to the album being in any way essential, but since I don't feel like I'm an expert on 60's/70's music, I never said anything. In 90's we are going to just get an outpouring of choices that will only make people scratch their heads.

And Loveless is probably going to be top 5, I don't enjoy it but I can't see myself leaving it off my list.

[IWasaCamera]

Why do you say this? I never even heard of this band until a few months ago, and they don't sound like anything special at all to me. What have they done that's influential or even any different than other bands in their genre?
Absolutely everyone namedrops this album since Loveless is supposedly shoegaze's crown jewel. 90% of users will have MBV on their list (or at least would have prior to this post).

I don't care for them at all either.

[Yes. And?]

I agree, which is why I said they're going to be showing up in a lot of lists. I like Loveless a lot when I'm in the mood for it. :shrug:

[allhourcymbals]

Absolutely everyone namedrops this album since Loveless is supposedly shoegaze's crown jewel. 90% of users will have MBV on their list (or at least would have prior to this post).

I don't care for them at all either.
This is the kind of answer I was looking for yesterday. This still surprises me.

[El_Jeffe]

although little to none will probably feature on the list (well.. graceland), but i just wanted to make a point of the world music explosion during the 80's. in previous threads i was saying how much an impact the skatalites, kuti & of course marley had on the entire world music (of all kinds) & the real wave upon wave of their impact is really felt during the 80's. the rhythm of the world was alive & finally being recognized by the west

Haha, I still don't get all the fuss about Split Enz at all either. The Finn's solo stuff is great though.

what the..?! out of love for ya christopher, i'll overlook this grubby statement haha

the thing about split enz, is they did everything on their own terms, relentlessly original, with all the diy ethics of any punk (or alike in morals) band. they were flat broke for years & years, but still toured or played locally at every chance. much of the time they were too poor to even record (a fan paid for the recording session of one album), but still they soldiered on with sooo much passion & energy, creativity & love for the music bursting out from every avenue. they gained huge international cult followings & completely shaped the music culture in australasia. over this way, there was music before split enz & music after split enz, they were HUGE, despite being one of the poorest bands ever in the first half of their journey. their music captivated the entire music culture, one of the very very few bands who managed to have mass underground respect & following as well as (in their later years) mainstream popularity. their influence is unobjectionably still felt today throughout nz, auzzie & to a strong, but lesser extent throughout the uk (& much of europe), canada & slightly in the states. that &... the music rules! haha

[TheOutcastStory]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=11133831#post11133 831
its a contest...you interested???

[TheOutcastStory]

anyone???

[Anderson]

It's understandable to see Metallica on these lists, but I'm suprised there's been no mention of Slayer given the amount of metalcore bands who'd give their right nut to sound that good. Anyway, a quick list of the top of my head

1, Minor Threat - Minor Threat
2, Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today
3, Slayer - Reign In Blood
4, Metallica - Master Of Puppets
5, Fugazi - 13 Songs
6, Embrace - Embrace
7, Youth Of Today - Break Down the Walls
8, Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions
9, Decendents - Milo Goes To College
10, Pixies - Doolittle
11, Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegatables
12, The Cure - Disintergration
13, Anthrax - Among The living
14, Bad Religion - Suffer
15, Beastie Boys - Licenced To Ill
16, Minor Threat - Out Of Step
17, Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
18, NWA - Straight Out Of Compton
19, Rites Of Spring - End On End
20, Judge - Bringing It Down

[Yes. And?]

Why do people think promoting their shitty contests/bands/whatever inappropriately does anything but piss people off? Reported, TheOutCastStory. :-)

Anyways, I need to check out more 80s music, honestly.

[allhourcymbals]

although little to none will probably feature on the list (well.. graceland), but i just wanted to make a point of the world music explosion during the 80's. in previous threads i was saying how much an impact the skatalites, kuti & of course marley had on the entire world music (of all kinds) & the real wave upon wave of their impact is really felt during the 80's. the rhythm of the world was alive & finally being recognized by the west



what the..?! out of love for ya christopher, i'll overlook this grubby statement haha

the thing about split enz, is they did everything on their own terms, relentlessly original, with all the diy ethics of any punk (or alike in morals) band. they were flat broke for years & years, but still toured or played locally at every chance. much of the time they were too poor to even record (a fan paid for the recording session of one album), but still they soldiered on with sooo much passion & energy, creativity & love for the music bursting out from every avenue. they gained huge international cult followings & completely shaped the music culture in australasia. over this way, there was music before split enz & music after split enz, they were HUGE, despite being one of the poorest bands ever in the first half of their journey. their music captivated the entire music culture, one of the very very few bands who managed to have mass underground respect & following as well as (in their later years) mainstream popularity. their influence is unobjectionably still felt today throughout nz, auzzie & to a strong, but lesser extent throughout the uk (& much of europe), canada & slightly in the states. that &... the music rules! haha
i missed that one haha. i was so tempted to put Split Enz higher on my list, but seeing as how they're not as big over here.. tim will be a completely different story though.

[KatieKutthroat.]

i missed that one haha. i was so tempted to put Split Enz higher on my list, but seeing as how they're not as big over here.. tim will be a completely different story though.

I'm trying to decide whether or not to put Split Enz on my list, just because it's essential and not personal favorites. Hmm...

[allhourcymbals]

I'm trying to decide whether or not to put Split Enz on my list, just because it's essential and not personal favorites. Hmm...
I just went to go tell you something but you signed off aim :-(

and I put them on, I think they deserve to be on there more than the other choices I had for the spot. they're not huge over here, but they were extremely influential and i would never think of the 80s and not think of split enz.

[born to expire]

1. Bad Brains - ROIR (not my favorite Bad Brains release, but you can't deny its impact)
2. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
3. Van Halen - 1984
4. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me
5. Run DMC - Raising Hell
6. Cro-Mags - Age of Quarrel
7. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
8. Iron Maiden - Killers
9. Metallica - Kill 'Em All
10. Black Flag - Damaged
11. Stone Roses - Stone Roses
12. Eric B and Rakim - Paid in Full
13. NWA - Straight Outta Compton
14. Descendents - Milo Goes to College
15. Morrissey - Viva Hate
16. Void - Faith/Void Split
17. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
18. Embrace - Embrace
19. The Cure - Disintegration
20. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA

That was hard. I will probably change this a lot.

Updated.

[KatieKutthroat.]

I just went to go tell you something but you signed off aim :-(

and I put them on, I think they deserve to be on there more than the other choices I had for the spot. they're not huge over here, but they were extremely influential and i would never think of the 80s and not think of split enz.

Sorry, my internet is being screwy. If I sign off while I'm talking to you it's my damn internet disconnecting.

Yeah, I think I'm going to put them on, but they'll be in the bottom half of my list.

[CellarGhosts]

although little to none will probably feature on the list (well.. graceland), but i just wanted to make a point of the world music explosion during the 80's. in previous threads i was saying how much an impact the skatalites, kuti & of course marley had on the entire world music (of all kinds) & the real wave upon wave of their impact is really felt during the 80's. the rhythm of the world was alive & finally being recognized by the west



what the..?! out of love for ya christopher, i'll overlook this grubby statement haha

the thing about split enz, is they did everything on their own terms, relentlessly original, with all the diy ethics of any punk (or alike in morals) band. they were flat broke for years & years, but still toured or played locally at every chance. much of the time they were too poor to even record (a fan paid for the recording session of one album), but still they soldiered on with sooo much passion & energy, creativity & love for the music bursting out from every avenue. they gained huge international cult followings & completely shaped the music culture in australasia. over this way, there was music before split enz & music after split enz, they were HUGE, despite being one of the poorest bands ever in the first half of their journey. their music captivated the entire music culture, one of the very very few bands who managed to have mass underground respect & following as well as (in their later years) mainstream popularity. their influence is unobjectionably still felt today throughout nz, auzzie & to a strong, but lesser extent throughout the uk (& much of europe), canada & slightly in the states. that &... the music rules! haha
Haha, sorry Craig. Maybe I just need more time to listen to them. I definitely see what you mean, and have lots of respect for that. I'll try and get into more of their stuff, as I do love the song "I See Red". So maybe I'll look into the album that song is on.

[wewascontenders]

1. Descendants - Milo Goes to College
2. Bad Brains - Bad Brains
3. Slayer - Reign in Blood
4. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
5. Husker Du - Zen Arcade
6. Black Flag - Damaged
7. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
8. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me
9. The Smiths - Meat is Murder
10. Minor Threat - Minor Threat
11. Operation Ivy - Energy
12. The Replacements - Let It Be
13. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA
14. Embrace - Embrace
15. Rites of Spring - End On End
16. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
17. Cro Mags - Age of Quarrel
18. Micheal Jackson - Thriller
19. Paul Simon - Graceland
20. Black Flag - My War

[CellarGhosts]

1. Descendants - Milo Goes to College
2. Bad Brains - Bad Brains
3. Slayer - Reign in Blood
4. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
5. Husker Du - Zen Arcade
6. Black Flag - Damaged
7. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
8. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me
9. The Smiths - Meat is Murder
10. Minor Threat - Minor Threat
11. Operation Ivy - Energy
12. The Replacements - Let It Be
13. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA
14. Embrace - Embrace
15. Rites of Spring - Rites of Spring
16. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
17. Cro Mags - Age of Quarrel
18. Micheal Jackson - Thriller
19. Paul Simon - Graceland
20. Black Flag - My War

Great list. I don't know how I forgot about Rites Of Spring.

Also, thank you for putting Rain Dogs, Fresh Fruit..., Let It Be, and Nebraska on there haha. Prepare for a lecture about having Thriller so low on there, though.

[allhourcymbals]

Sorry, my internet is being screwy. If I sign off while I'm talking to you it's my damn internet disconnecting.

Yeah, I think I'm going to put them on, but they'll be in the bottom half of my list.
Better than nothing! Seriously though, True Colours is absolutely brilliant. I wasn't sure which album to put since I love them all so much haha, and again, they're not so big over here so I don't know so much.
Haha, sorry Craig. Maybe I just need more time to listen to them. I definitely see what you mean, and have lots of respect for that. I'll try and get into more of their stuff, as I do love the song "I See Red". So maybe I'll look into the album that song is on.
Frenzy is a great album. She Got Body, She Got Soul is one of my favourite Enz tracks, soo good. You have it, right?
1. Descendants - Milo Goes to College


:highfive:

[CellarGhosts]

Better than nothing! Seriously though, True Colours is absolutely brilliant. I wasn't sure which album to put since I love them all so much haha, and again, they're not so big over here so I don't know so much.

Frenzy is a great album. She Got Body, She Got Soul is one of my favourite Enz tracks, soo good. You have it, right?


:highfive:
I think I do. If I did, I lost it when I was transferring alot of stuff around between computers to my new iPod.

[El_Jeffe]

i'm actually pretty shocked the descendents are getting so much love. not complaining i love the band, just didn't realize they had this many fans, cool to see

i missed that one haha. i was so tempted to put Split Enz higher on my list, but seeing as how they're not as big over here.. tim will be a completely different story though.

big everywhere (at least at an underground level) but the states. they did have a large cult following there, still do. but american mainstream has never embraced the finn boys. especially after tim's "chocolate cake" from the crowdies album woodface haha. didn't wash down well

I'm trying to decide whether or not to put Split Enz on my list, just because it's essential and not personal favorites. Hmm...

favourites or not mate, they defined australasian music, they forever changed the course of music, both underground & mainstream for a ton of reasons i started mentioning to chris haha. but they did also have a massive pull & respect from underground crowds throughout the world

Haha, sorry Craig. Maybe I just need more time to listen to them. I definitely see what you mean, and have lots of respect for that. I'll try and get into more of their stuff, as I do love the song "I See Red". So maybe I'll look into the album that song is on.

haha nah it's cool mate, each to their own. they were around before the wave of punk music that was flung world wide, but they were also highly respected among those crowds, for their high energy gigs & hard working & original ethics. the hard thing to understand about the enz mate (one day i might try upload a documentary i have of them) is they had just as many unreleased songs as they did songs that appeared on albums haha. but they played them all live, many of which were fan favourites, they were a live band that received great reception & respect & you really had to be part of their movement to fully understand it. albums do them no justice whatsoever. there's so much more to the band than will ever meet the eye ya know. they were more than mere music makers, they were an art phenomenon that paved all new grounds & forever changed the course of music (especially in australasia)

[CellarGhosts]

i'm actually pretty shocked the descendents are getting so much love. not complaining i love the band, just didn't realize they had this many fans, cool to see



big everywhere (at least at an underground level) but the states. they did have a large cult following there, still do. but american mainstream has never embraced the finn boys. especially after tim's "chocolate cake" from the crowdies album woodface haha. didn't wash down well



favourites or not mate, they defined australasian music, they forever changed the course of music, both underground & mainstream for a ton of reasons i started mentioning to chris haha. but they did also have a massive pull & respect from underground crowds throughout the world



haha nah it's cool mate, each to their own. they were around before the wave of punk music that was flung world wide, but they were also highly respected among those crowds, for their high energy gigs & hard working & original ethics. the hard thing to understand about the enz mate (one day i might try upload a documentary i have of them) is they had just as many unreleased songs as they did songs that appeared on albums haha. but they played them all live, many of which were fan favourites, they were a live band that received great reception & respect & you really had to be part of their movement to fully understand it. albums do them no justice whatsoever. there's so much more to the band than will ever meet the eye ya know. they were more than mere music makers, they were an art phenomenon that paved all new grounds & forever changed the course of music (especially in australasia)
Haha, I love how you're capable of typing up a whole paragraph (or even more so)'s worth of information on Split Enz at any given time, hah. I guess I'll just never be able to love them the way you do, maybe due to overall musical preferences, but also because I'm not from NZ or Australia haha. Which probably has something to do with it. But props for being so knowledgeable about them and whatnot.

[allhourcymbals]

big everywhere (at least at an underground level) but the states. they did have a large cult following there, still do. but american mainstream has never embraced the finn boys. especially after tim's "chocolate cake" from the crowdies album woodface haha. didn't wash down well


hahahaha, i love that song. it's so true.

can I have another piece of chocolate cake?
tammy baker must be losing her faith, yeah
can I buy another cheap picasso fake?
andy warhol must be laughing in his grave..


and there are a lot more descendents fans on this site than i thought. i love it! haha

[El_Jeffe]

Haha, I love how you're capable of typing up a whole paragraph (or even more so)'s worth of information on Split Enz at any given time, hah. I guess I'll just never be able to love them the way you do, maybe due to overall musical preferences, but also because I'm not from NZ or Australia haha. Which probably has something to do with it. But props for being so knowledgeable about them and whatnot.

haha just a whole lot of love for something so good! had split enz released mental notes (not sure if you've heard it?) in either '72 or '73 rather than '75, that era would have been huge, especially if they were in the uk at the time. of course this didn't happen, but it's interesting to speculate. there was a hole in progressive rock at the time & they just missed out on filling it

hahahaha, i love that song. it's so true.

can I have another piece of chocolate cake?
tammy baker must be losing her faith, yeah
can I buy another cheap picasso fake?
andy warhol must be laughing in his grave..


and there are a lot more descendents fans on this site than i thought. i love it! haha

haha do you know how that song came about? both finn boys were eating in an american cafe while touring & this large woman was stuffing her face with chocolate cake at the table next to theirs. tim turns around to neil with a cheeky grin & sly voice & says "...can i have another piece of chocolate cake?" neil cracks up, tim goes "hold on a minute", rushes out of the cafe to his hotel, grabs his guitar & starts writing a song haha. it's completely about the over excessive lazy upsized american lifestyle haha

[allhourcymbals]

haha just a whole lot of love for something so good! had split enz released mental notes (not sure if you've heard it?) in either '72 or '73 rather than '75, that era would have been huge, especially if they were in the uk at the time. of course this didn't happen, but it's interesting to speculate. there was a hole in progressive rock at the time & they just missed out on filling it



haha do you know how that song came about? both finn boys were eating in an american cafe while touring & this large woman was stuffing her face with chocolate cake at the table next to their. tim turns around to neil with a cheeky grin & sly voice to & says "...can i have another piece of chocolate cake?". neil cracks up, tim goes "hold on a minute", rushes out of the cafe to his hotel, grabs his guitar & starts writing a song haha. it's completely about the over excessive lazy upsized american lifestyle haha
hahahaha, that's hilarious. i can imagine that hahah.

[CellarGhosts]

haha just a whole lot of love for something so good! had split enz released mental notes (not sure if you've heard it?) in either '72 or '73 rather than '75, that era would have been huge, especially if they were in the uk at the time. of course this didn't happen, but it's interesting to speculate. there was a hole in progressive rock at the time & they just missed out on filling it
Haha.

Nah, I haven't heard that one. I'll listen to them more though.

[El_Jeffe]

with a theme like that, tim still picked "chocolate cake" as the first american single haha, not sure what thoughts were going through his mind then, but yea... didn't wash with americans well at the time. woodface will be in my top 5 in the 90's however

Haha.

Nah, I haven't heard that one. I'll listen to them more though.

you're a good man! there has to be something in their catalogue that will interest ya mate. hopefully on day the real meaning of the band will "click"

[SanePsychotic]

haha do you know how that song came about? both finn boys were eating in an american cafe while touring & this large woman was stuffing her face with chocolate cake at the table next to theirs. tim turns around to neil with a cheeky grin & sly voice & says "...can i have another piece of chocolate cake?". neil cracks up, tim goes "hold on a minute", rushes out of the cafe to his hotel, grabs his guitar & starts writing a song haha. it's completely about the over excessive lazy upsized american lifestyle haha

Ha, that's a great story! :clap:

[CellarGhosts]

with a theme like that, tim still picked "chocolate cake" as the first american single haha, not sure what thoughts were going through his mind then, but yea... didn't wash with americans well at the time. woodface will be in my top 5 in the 90's however



you're a good man! there has to be something in their catalogue that will interest ya mate. hopefully on day the real meaning of the band will "click"
haha, thanks! I just searched for "Frenzy" and the only link I could find was dead, so I'll probably get ahold of it somewhere else. Unless you or Courtney would be so kind as to hook me up, haha.

[KatieKutthroat.]

haha, thanks! I just searched for "Frenzy" and the only link I could find was dead, so I'll probably get ahold of it somewhere else. Unless you or Courtney would be so kind as to hook me up, haha.

If you need it, I have it.

[allhourcymbals]

haha, thanks! I just searched for "Frenzy" and the only link I could find was dead, so I'll probably get ahold of it somewhere else. Unless you or Courtney would be so kind as to hook me up, haha.
Yup.

[wewascontenders]

Great list. I don't know how I forgot about Rites Of Spring.

Also, thank you for putting Rain Dogs, Fresh Fruit..., Let It Be, and Nebraska on there haha. Prepare for a lecture about having Thriller so low on there, though.

Yeah, they completely deserve it.



Better than nothing! Seriously though, True Colours is absolutely brilliant. I wasn't sure which album to put since I love them all so much haha, and again, they're not so big over here so I don't know so much.

Frenzy is a great album. She Got Body, She Got Soul is one of my favourite Enz tracks, soo good. You have it, right?


:highfive:

I'm probably out on a bridge with that one, but I think it deserves to be number one.

[GuitarR0cker1]

I hope Metallica actually makes it on the list. I am not into them that much but I think they deserve just because of how much they influenced Metal.

[CellarGhosts]

Yeah, they completely deserve it.





I'm probably out on a bridge with that one, but I think it deserves to be number one.
Definitely.

If you need it, I have it.
Alright, that'd be cool. thanks! :-)

Mediafire please? haha.

Edit - never mind, Courtney helped me out.

[allhourcymbals]

Yeah, they completely deserve it.





I'm probably out on a bridge with that one, but I think it deserves to be number one.
I put it as number one as well.

[KatieKutthroat.]

Definitely.


Alright, that'd be cool. thanks! :-)

Mediafire please? haha.

Edit - never mind, Courtney helped me out.

Ah, okay. I figured she'd beat me to it.

[CellarGhosts]

Ah, okay. I figured she'd beat me to it.
Haha yeah.

It's about halfway done downloading. Looking forward to listening.

[El_Jeffe]

Ha, that's a great story! :clap:

are you a fan of the finn boys mate? i've told too many of their tales over the years on ap haha

i made a mix for the general thread the other day you might enjoy (all the tunes are individually upped though). i can pass it your way if ya keen?

haha, thanks! I just searched for "Frenzy" and the only link I could find was dead, so I'll probably get ahold of it somewhere else. Unless you or Courtney would be so kind as to hook me up, haha.

the remastered versions might do you better mate. as i said, albums never ever do the finn boys justice



oh & i hope graceland wins this thread! haha

[CellarGhosts]

are you a fan of the finn boys mate? i've told too many of their tales over the years on ap haha

i made a mix for the general thread the other day you might enjoy (all the tunes are individually upped though). i can pass it your way if ya keen?



the remastered versions might do you better mate. as i said, albums never ever do the finn boys justice



oh & i hope graceland wins this thread! haha
haha, I gotcha. I liked what I heard so far from Frenzy, and I think it is the remastered version.

as for the thread, I hope Rain Dogs wins actually, haha. but it probably won't.

[allhourcymbals]

haha, I gotcha. I liked what I heard so far from Frenzy, and I think it is the remastered version.

as for the thread, I hope Rain Dogs wins actually, haha. but it probably won't.
it's not the remastered version, but i have 2 out of 3 of the bonus tracks that were on there, so i'll up those in a minute.

[SanePsychotic]

are you a fan of the finn boys mate? i've told too many of their tales over the years on ap haha

i made a mix for the general thread the other day you might enjoy (all the tunes are individually upped though). i can pass it your way if ya keen?

No, I haven't gotten into them yet, but I'm willing to give anything a try. Could you link me to the mix, please? That would be great!

[allhourcymbals]

No, I haven't gotten into them yet, but I'm willing to give anything a try. Could you link me to the mix, please? That would be great!
http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=314589

not his mix, but a great finn thread you should venture into if you plan on checking them out...

[SanePsychotic]

http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=314589

not his mix, but a great finn thread you should venture into if you plan on checking them out...

Wow. Thanks, I'm definatly going to be reading this one!

[KatieKutthroat.]

1.The Descendents- Milo Goes To College
2. Michael Jackson - Thriller
3. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Down
4 Black Flag- Damaged
5. Paul Simon - Graceland
6. Purple Rain - Prince & The Revolution
7. Bruce Springsteen - Born In The U.S.A.
8. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
9. U2 - The Joshua Tree
10. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
11. The Replacements- Tim
12. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
13. The Police- Synchronicity
14. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
15. Operation Ivy - Energy
16. The Replacements- Let It Be
17. Talking heads - Remain in Light
18. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Il
19. Split Enz - True Colours
20. John Lennon & Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy

[CellarGhosts]

1.The Descendents- Milo Goes To College
2. Michael Jackson - Thriller
3. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Down
4 Black Flag- Damaged
5. Paul Simon - Graceland
6. Purple Rain - Prince & The Revolution
7. Bruce Springsteen - Born In The U.S.A.
8. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
9. U2 - The Joshua Tree
10. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
11. The Replacements- Tim
12. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
13. The Police- Synchronicity
14. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
15. Operation Ivy - Energy
16. The Replacements- Let It Be
17. talking heads - remain in light
18. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Il
19. The Clash - Combat Rockl
20. John Lennon & Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy
Replacements. :-)

But no Pogues. :-(

Oh well.

[bradyreier]

Just working on my list now.

[bradyreier]

Here is my final list:

1. The Smiths – The Queen Is Dead
2. Michael Jackson – Thriller
3. The Cure – Disintegration
4. The Smiths – The Smiths
5. Paul Simon – Graceland
6. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
7. The Descendents – Milo Goes To College
8. Bruce Springsteen – Nebraska
9. Morrissey – Viva Hate
10. Tom Waits – Rain Dogs
11. Prince – Purple Rain
12. Sonic Youth – Daydream Nation
13. Bruce Springsteen – Born In The U.S.A.
14. R.E.M. – Murmur
15. U2 – Joshua Tree
16. Joy Division – Closer
17. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Down
18. The Police – Synchronicity
19. Pixies - Surfer Rosa
20. Talking Heads - Remain In Light

[SanePsychotic]

Not surprised to see The Smiths at number one on your list.

[bradyreier]

Not surprised to see The Smiths at number one on your list.
No, I don't think that will surprise many, haha. But at least I only kept two of their albums on there.

[El_Jeffe]

generally there seems to be very little variation between lists, when compared to previous decades. is it just? were some of these albums really that dominant?

not hating, my own list features a good number that appear on most others. but as usual, curiosity got to me haha

[TheOtherAndrew]

generally there seems to be very little variation between lists, when compared to previous decades. is it just? were some of these albums really that dominant?

not hating, my own list features a good number that appear on most others. but as usual, curiosity got to me haha
Personally, I just don't think a lot of people on here listen to that much music from the '80s, so their choices are limited. I think I only had seven albums on my list.

[El_Jeffe]

Personally, I just don't think a lot of people on here listen to that much music from the '80s, so their choices are limited. I think I only had seven albums on my list.

yea could be the case mate. i just assumed (which is seldom a good idea) that as the decades become increasingly closer to modern times, there would be more users taking part. as in, more users would be familiar with the music from the time period. but perhaps not the case here, quite interesting. much less ideas being thrown around too, bit of a bugger haha

& while i've got ya here mate, i feel like a real drongo. i found that cd i was meant to send ya... yonks ago, ya got to remind of these things brother! but i'm hitting the post shop first thing tomorrow morning, no excuses. is ya address still the same as ya sent me that time (if i can still dig it out haha)?

[TheOtherAndrew]

yea could be the case mate. i just assumed (which is seldom a good idea) that as the decades become increasingly closer to modern times, there would be more users taking part. as in, more users would be familiar with the music from the time period. but perhaps not the case here, quite interesting. much less ideas being thrown around too, bit of a bugger haha

& while i've got ya here mate, i feel like a real drongo. i found that cd i was meant to send ya... yonks ago, ya got to remind of these things brother! but i'm hitting the post shop first thing tomorrow morning, no excuses. is ya address still the same as ya sent me that time (if i can still dig it out haha)?
haha, that's really great of you that you still remember that. and yeah, its still the same.

I dunno why the 80s hit such a lull. The 90s will definitely have more activity (and not just pop-punk, haha) because so many of the regulars on here hit their teenage years in that decade. personally, all my exposure to 80s music, besides hair-metal, was from hearing about bands like Bad Religion, the Dead Kennedys and the Descendents because they were so influential on more modern bands. I never heard their songs from the radio, and wasn't alive when they were putting out their most influential albums, I just heard them name dropped and decided to download their mp3s.

Plus, with the 60s and 70s, so many albums from those decades are just sewn into musical culture. The 80s, not so much.

[El_Jeffe]

haha, that's really great of you that you still remember that. and yeah, its still the same.

I dunno why the 80s hit such a lull. The 90s will definitely have more activity (and not just pop-punk, haha) because so many of the regulars on here hit their teenage years in that decade. personally, all my exposure to 80s music, besides hair-metal, was from hearing about bands like Bad Religion, the Dead Kennedys and the Descendents because they were so influential on more modern bands. I never heard their songs from the radio, and wasn't alive when they were putting out their most influential albums, I just heard them name dropped and decided to download their mp3s.

Plus, with the 60s and 70s, so many albums from those decades are just sewn into musical culture. The 80s, not so much.

no worries mate, took me bloody long enough haha

i love the 80's. to me it was an exciting period for music because the west finally realized & accepted that (great) music was being made in countries other than the uk or america. world music boomed & has had a considerable impact on all modern music, everywhere. but since those genres doesn’t get a lot of love here it's understandable they're not on many lists

definitely agree with that last statement. besides half a dozen albums, very little is completely understood about the real impacts of music from the 80's. time will/might tell i suppose

[TheOtherAndrew]

no worries mate, took me bloody long enough haha

i love the 80's. to me it was an exciting period for music because the west finally realized & accepted that (great) music was being made in countries other than the uk or america. world music boomed & has had a considerable impact on all modern music, everywhere. but since those genres doesn’t get a lot of love here it's understandable they're not on many lists

definitely agree with that last statement. besides half a dozen albums, very little is completely understood about the real impacts of music from the 80's. time will/might tell i suppose
Yeah, I kinda expected your list to be much more diverse than everybody else's just because it was such a good decade for music cultures outside of the west. i'm sure eventually i'll dig into it, but my tastes just aren't there at the exact moment. the same goes for a lot of people on here.

[jenniferlee]

1. U2 - The Joshua Tree
2. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
3. Prince - Purple Rain
4. U2 - War
5. Cure - Disintegration
6. Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues
7. Elvis Costello - Get Happy
8. Depeche Mode - Music For the Masses
9. Janes Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
10. De La Soul - 3 Feet High And Rising

[allhourcymbals]

i'm surprised de la soul didn't make more people's lists.

[CellarGhosts]

1. paul simon - graceland
2. michael jackson - thriller
3. the smiths - the queen is dead
4. talking heads - remain in light
5. public enemy - it takes a nation of millions to hold us back
6. tom waits - rain dogs
7. r.e.m. - murmur
8. bruce springsteen - born in the usa
9. u2 - the joshua tree
10. peter gabriel - so
11. the descendents - milo goes to college
12. the pixies - doolittle
13. black uhuru - red
14. split enz - true colours
15. tracy chapman - tracy chapman
16. ladysmith black mambazo - shaka zulu
17. r. carlos nakai - canyon trilogy
18. nick cave & the bad seeds - tender prey
19. the cure - disintegration
20. fishbone - truth & soul

just missing out:
bruce springsteen - nebraska
crowded house - crowded house
minor threat - out of step
the pogues - if i should fall from grace with god
youssou n’dour – immigrés
fela kuti - the black president
king sunny ade - juju music

world music exploded (well became much more accessible & finally recognized as a force by the much of the west) during the 80's
Aw, are you sure you want to leave the Pogues off of there, Craig? :-)

Haha. I just really hope they crack the top 10 at least, but I don't see it happening.

[AlternateToLife]

1.The Descendents- Milo Goes To College
2. Michael Jackson - Thriller
3. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Down
4 Black Flag- Damaged
5. Paul Simon - Graceland
6. Purple Rain - Prince & The Revolution
7. Bruce Springsteen - Born In The U.S.A.
8. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
9. U2 - The Joshua Tree
10. N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
11. The Replacements- Tim
12. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
13. The Police- Synchronicity
14. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
15. Operation Ivy - Energy
16. The Replacements- Let It Be
17. Talking heads - Remain in Light
18. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Il
19. Split Enz - True Colours
20. John Lennon & Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy

:highfive:

[CellarGhosts]

Haha, I have a feeling Milo is going to be in the top 5.

[allhourcymbals]

with the amount of people that put it at number one, myself included, i wouldn't be surprised if it were top 3.

[CellarGhosts]

Haha, I could see it happening. If it does, everyone is going to be pissed, ha.

[KatieKutthroat.]

with the amount of people that put it at number one, myself included, i wouldn't be surprised if it were top 3.

I'm thinking it's going to make the top 3 easily.

[CellarGhosts]

I have a feeling the Replacements will be high up on the list. Hopefully! :-)

[KatieKutthroat.]

Probably.

[CellarGhosts]

They definitely deserve it. If they, or Tom Waits isn't up there, I'm going to raise all sorts of hell. ha.

Also, I know they won't be high on the list, but the Pogues deserve more recognition than they get. It's a shame, really.

[KatieKutthroat.]

Haha, I know heads will roll if Tom Waits isn't on the list.

And yeah, I know. I was going to put them on but I decided against it. If I had listed honorable mentions however, they would've been there.

[CellarGhosts]

Haha, I know heads will roll if Tom Waits isn't on the list.

And yeah, I know. I was going to put them on but I decided against it. If I had listed honorable mentions however, they would've been there.
I'll make sure of it. :-D

Yeah, I think Craig might back me up on this one, but they did alot more for music than people think. I cannot stand people who write their sort of music off as being "gimmicky" or stupid shit like that. They successfully blended traditional Irish folk, something that's been around for ages, with what was, at the time, contemporary punk rock energy and spirit, managing to make their music sound rather timeless, even their original songs, none of it sounds "dated" or "80s"-ish" at all, if you know what I mean. And I think they influenced more than the likes of The Tossers, Flogging Molly, Dropkick Murphys, etc. I mean, I love all those bands dearly, but I can understand why they wouldn't be someone's thing. Not to mention the Pogues caught the ear of Elvis Costello, who produced Rum, Sodomy & the Lash, and later on Joe Strummer, who produced Hell's Ditch. So that has got to count for something.

[KatieKutthroat.]

I'll make sure of it. :-D

Yeah, I think Craig might back me up on this one, but they did alot more for music than people think. I cannot stand people who write their sort of music off as being "gimmicky" or stupid shit like that. They successfully blended traditional Irish folk, something that's been around for ages, with what was, at the time, contemporary punk rock energy and spirit, managing to make their music sound rather timeless, even their original songs, none of it sounds "dated" or "80s"-ish" at all, if you know what I mean. And I think they influenced more than the likes of The Tossers, Flogging Molly, Dropkick Murphys, etc. I mean, I love all those bands dearly, but I can understand why they wouldn't be someone's thing. Not to mention the Pogues caught the ear of Elvis Costello, who produced Rum, Sodomy & the Lash, and later on Joe Strummer, who produced Hell's Ditch. So that has got to count for something.

That's true. You really have a point with the whole "Not sounding dated" thing. They could release any of their 80's albums today and they would still sound current and relevant. And if both Costello and Strummer are fans? Well, that's more than enough proof of how good they are, haha.

I think my problem is I haven't heard enough of their albums in their entirety and I haven't been a fan of them for very long, so I felt funny calliing them "essential". You know?

[CellarGhosts]

That's true. You really have a point with the whole "Not sounding dated" thing. They could release any of their 80's albums today and they would still sound current and relevant. And if both Costello and Strummer are fans? Well, that's more than enough proof of how good they are, haha.

I think my problem is I haven't heard enough of their albums in their entirety and I haven't been a fan of them for very long, so I felt funny calliing them "essential". You know?
Thanks, I'm glad I made a point in my rambling haha. And yeah - if you've got Cotstello and Stummer on your side, you're pretty much set.

It's okay, I know what you mean. No worries.

[Tyler Revolution]

I have a feeling the Replacements will be high up on the list. Hopefully! :-)

It would be a shame if they aren't.

[CellarGhosts]

It would be a shame if they aren't.
Without question. I feel like they're such an under-appreciated band, at least on these boards. Let It Be and Tim are both essential listening, imo.

Have you ever listened to Westerberg's solo stuff? I love it as well, haha.

[Tyler Revolution]

Without question. I feel like they're such an under-appreciated band, at least on these boards. Let It Be and Tim are both essential listening, imo.

Have you ever listened to Westerberg's solo stuff? I love it as well, haha.

I have, but I don't enjoy it near as much as The Replacements material.

[CellarGhosts]

I have, but I don't enjoy it near as much as The Replacements material.
Ah, I see. I don't enjoy it as much either, but there's still some great material in there.

As far as the Replacements go, I think these re-issues that've come out lately are doing a pretty good job of gaining them some more fans. They may be a bit pricey ($14.99 a piece or so), but they're worth it, as far as I'm concerned. Especially with all the bonus tracks. Can't wait for the last four re-issues to hit this fall.

[El_Jeffe]

3 split enz votes, i love you all!

Aw, are you sure you want to leave the Pogues off of there, Craig? :-)

Haha. I just really hope they crack the top 10 at least, but I don't see it happening.

only just, the last couple were tough choices. ya know who we should have voted for in previous threads (& they actually are rather essential), the chieftains! we all forgot haha, bugger

I'll make sure of it. :-D

Yeah, I think Craig might back me up on this one, but they did alot more for music than people think. I cannot stand people who write their sort of music off as being "gimmicky" or stupid shit like that. They successfully blended traditional Irish folk, something that's been around for ages, with what was, at the time, contemporary punk rock energy and spirit, managing to make their music sound rather timeless, even their original songs, none of it sounds "dated" or "80s"-ish" at all, if you know what I mean. And I think they influenced more than the likes of The Tossers, Flogging Molly, Dropkick Murphys, etc. I mean, I love all those bands dearly, but I can understand why they wouldn't be someone's thing. Not to mention the Pogues caught the ear of Elvis Costello, who produced Rum, Sodomy & the Lash, and later on Joe Strummer, who produced Hell's Ditch. So that has got to count for something.

yes he would haha & agree with a lot of points you raised. i also think people here write off the importance of live music & the impacts a great gig can truly have. the pogues are another terrific live band (well based on footage haha) & a lot of their influence on others come from that. it's more than "sounding irish", it's the wonderful energy & ethic they bring live, one that has impacted on much more than just irish music & even much further than punk music

[CellarGhosts]

3 split enz votes, i love you all!



only just, the last couple were tough choices. ya know who we should have voted for in previous threads (& they actually are rather essential), the chieftains! we all forgot haha, bugger



yes he would haha & agree with a lot of points you raised. i also think people here write off the importance of live music & the impacts a great gig can truly have. the pogues are another terrific live band (well based on footage haha) & a lot of their influence on others come from that. it's more than "sounding irish", it's the wonderful energy & ethic they bring live, one that has impacted on much more than just irish music & even much further than punk music
Haha, oh man, we did forget the Chieftains! dang. - but yeah, I understand. I had a hard time with my list as well.

haha, glad to hear it. I agree 100% with that too. I've never seen them live personally, but they looked like a band that brought a hell of a lot of energy and passion to their live shows, matching the amount of raw energy that they brought to the albums themselves, sometimes maybe surpassing it. So it's agreed that their importance and influence extends well beyond the realms of punk or Irish music. it's a universal thing, really. shame not many people can get into them.

[allhourcymbals]

3 split enz votes, i love you all!

only just, the last couple were tough choices. ya know who we should have voted for in previous threads (& they actually are rather essential), the chieftains! we all forgot haha, bugger


yes he would haha & agree with a lot of points you raised. i also think people here write off the importance of live music & the impacts a great gig can truly have. the pogues are another terrific live band (well based on footage haha) & a lot of their influence on others come from that. it's more than "sounding irish", it's the wonderful energy & ethic they bring live, one that has impacted on much more than just irish music & even much further than punk music
Split Enz definitely deserves to be up there more than a lot of bands I've seen on lists so far. And I was a little surprised to see Crowded House only made your honorable mentions.

Metallica should really be number one or two but I hate their music and couldn't bring myself to vote for them or the other horrendous music around in this largely underwhelming decade.

I thought the same thing when i made my list, but I ended up putting them on anyway, just at a low number.

[Brokenhill]

Here's a list of albums that i'm at least familiar with:

1. Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime
2. Styx - Kilroy was Here
3. Michael Jackson - Thriller
4. Queen - A Kind of Magic
5. REM - Document
6. Pink Floyd - The Final Cut
7. The Police - Snychronocity
8. Metallica - Ride the Lightning
9. Heart - Heart
10. AC/DC - Back in Black
11. Phil Collins - Face Value
12. Neil Young - Freedom
13. Journey - Escape
14. Stevie Ray Vaughn - Texas Flood
15. Van Halen - 1984
16. Metallica - Master of Puppets
17. Weird Al - Dare to Be Stupid
18. Judas Priest - British Steel
19. Aerosmith - Permanent Vacation
20. Michael Jackson - Bad

[El_Jeffe]

Split Enz definitely deserves to be up there more than a lot of bands I've seen on lists so far. And I was a little surprised to see Crowded House only made your honorable mentions.

agreed

crowdies were great in the 80's, but made their real impact in the 90's, when tim joined & everyone, even ap's beloved macca from the beatles, was vouching for them

Here's a list of albums that i'm at least familiar with:

1. Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime
2. Styx - Kilroy was Here
3. Michael Jackson - Thriller
4. Queen - A Kind of Magic
5. REM - Document
6. Pink Floyd - The Final Cut
7. The Police - Snychronocity
8. Metallica - Ride the Lightning
9. Heart - Heart
10. AC/DC - Back in Black
11. Phil Collins - Face Value
12. Neil Young - Freedom
13. Journey - Escape
14. Stevie Ray Vaughn - Texas Flood
15. Van Halen - 1984
16. Metallica - Master of Puppets
17. Weird Al - Dare to Be Stupid
18. Judas Priest - British Steel
19. Aerosmith - Permanent Vacation
20. Michael Jackson - Bad

a lot of people will probably overlook this list, but there's a few on there that actually made me think & somewhat agree. also, didn't know ya were an r.e.m. fan mate. lovin' it!

[CellarGhosts]

agreed

crowdies were great in the 80's, but made their real impact in the 90's, when tim joined & everyone, even ap's beloved macca from the beatles, was vouching for them



a lot of people will probably overlook this list, but there's a few on there that actually made me think & somewhat agree. also, didn't know ya were an r.e.m. fan mate. lovin' it!
oh by the way craig, while I'm not really feeling the Split Enz stuff just yet, I am really liking Crowded House as well as the solo Tim albums and Neil's Try Whistling This. good tunes. I'm thinking of picking up Liam's album as well sometime.

[allhourcymbals]

agreed

crowdies were great in the 80's, but made their real impact in the 90's, when tim joined & everyone, even ap's beloved macca from the beatles, was vouching for them



a lot of people will probably overlook this list, but there's a few on there that actually made me think & somewhat agree. also, didn't know ya were an r.e.m. fan mate. lovin' it!
you really hate how much praise the beatles get, don't you? haha and they'll definitely be on my 90s list. i have no idea (other than a few) about what else i'm putting on there though. and did you get my last message? i can't find the card, but i'm pretty sure i have it memorized.

[El_Jeffe]

oh by the way craig, while I'm not really feeling the Split Enz stuff just yet, I am really liking Crowded House as well as the solo Tim albums and Neil's Try Whistling This. good tunes. I'm thinking of picking up Liam's album as well sometime.

that's still cool though! i've always said there's something within the finn discography for everyone & the theory hasn't failed me yet! haha. have you heard tim's feeding the gods? that album might strike a chord or two with ya mate

you really hate how much praise the beatles get, don't you? haha and they'll definitely be on my 90s list. i have no idea (other than a few) about what else i'm putting on there though. and did you get my last message? i can't find the card, but i'm pretty sure i have it memorized.

haha i've voiced my views too many a times on them. it's not that i don't like or appreciate them. it's just the buying into hype & not listening to any other reason that i don't enjoy. but oh well

sure did, but i've been in & out more times than a fiddler's elbow of late. so i was going to wait till i knew i had some time before replying haha

[CellarGhosts]

that's still cool though! i've always said there's something within the finn discography for everyone & the theory hasn't failed me yet! haha. have you heard tim's feeding the gods? that album might strike a chord or two with ya mate



haha i've voiced my views too many a times on them. it's not that i don't like or appreciate them. it's just the buying into hype & not listening to any other reason that i don't enjoy. but oh well

sure did, but i've been in & out more times than a fiddler's elbow of late. so i was going to wait till i knew i had some time before replying haha
haha nice. and yeah! i've got Feeding the Gods. I think it was you that sent it to me, actually haha. either you or Courtney. but yeah, I definitely like it.

[allhourcymbals]

that's still cool though! i've always said there's something within the finn discography for everyone & the theory hasn't failed me yet! haha. have you heard tim's feeding the gods? that album might strike a chord or two with ya mate



haha i've voiced my views too many a times on them. it's not that i don't like or appreciate them. it's just the buying into hype & not listening to any other reason that i don't enjoy. but oh well

sure did, but i've been in & out more times than a fiddler's elbow of late. so i was going to wait till i knew i had some time before replying haha
kind of the way i feel about michael jackson... haha.


are you home now? haha. it's hard seeing as how when you're usually on for a while, it's 4 in the morning here...

[IWasaCamera]

Only one who listed Spirit Of Eden. Holla.