Vegetarians.

[PadraicPrincess]

I'm going vegetarian for at least a month to try it out, to see if it's something I really want to do. I felt like I should practice what I preach for the most part, and I really don't mind not eating any meat. However I lack the good recipes. Do any fellow vegetarians have any good sites/ recipes of their own? I would be very grateful.

[TheSkyline]

Yeah here's a great video with a bunch of recipes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDwcJcry3fA

[lovely864md]

Represent! I have no recipes for you, I just...eat.

[Smash Adams]

I know this great recipe for bacon wrapped steak

[lovely864md]

I know this great recipe for bacon wrapped steak

Mixing meats? There's a faux pas if there ever was one.

[DickfaceChillah]

I tried to go vegetarian for a little while to try it out. Then I found Boca Burgers to taste like dirt. Not meaning bad, just like REAL dirt. And I think I made my tofu wrong cause it was like jello... but worse. I dunno. I was too lazy. Try looking out for some punk zines at small punk shows. My PuNx friends are always making them vegan cookbooks.

[zbrmike79]

mexican food is my heaven sent... when i found out i can get beans instead of beef on anything at taco bell i was so happy

[Getup and Dance]

I know this great recipe for bacon wrapped steak

That sounds great. I might have to make that sometime.

[Getup and Dance]

mexican food is my heaven sent... when i found out i can get beans instead of beef on anything at taco bell i was so happy

I wonder if Taco Bell will let me order more beef instead of beans. Or else I wont have a happy next morning.

[PadraicPrincess]

mexican food is my heaven sent... when i found out i can get beans instead of beef on anything at taco bell i was so happy

that's amazing! i will definitely be making use of that.

[PadraicPrincess]

Yeah here's a great video with a bunch of recipes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDwcJcry3fA

was this ever funny?

[PadraicPrincess]

Represent! I have no recipes for you, I just...eat.

sounds like a plan. actually, i made some quite delicious quinoa chilli this evening.

[lovely864md]

I don't want to be the asshole but...multi-quote? :shrug:

[PadraicPrincess]

I know this great recipe for bacon wrapped steak

delicious. actually, bacon-wrapped shrimp is quite tasty.

[PadraicPrincess]

I don't want to be the asshole but...multi-quote? :shrug:

YOU ASSHOLE

nah, I guess i just like to treat people individually.

[Getup and Dance]

delicious. actually, bacon-wrapped shrimp is quite tasty.

Im a pro at bacon wrapped shrimp.

[lovely864md]

YOU ASSHOLE

nah, I guess i just like to treat people individually.

Haha okay. I figured I'd say it rather than have someone be bitchy about it.

[shit stroll]

read literature on animal rights. once you see how animals in factory farms are treated, you will more than likely give up eating meat for good. eat a lot of tofu, beans, whole grains, leafy green vegetables, and peanut butter.

i eat these things every day http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=10806.0 i put the buffalo tofu in a wrap with lettuce, tomatoes, and onions. also check out this site http://vegweb.com/

[PadraicPrincess]

Haha okay. I figured I'd say it rather than have someone be bitchy about it.

ahh i see. well thanks for the consideration. it was duly appreciated.

[PadraicPrincess]

read literature on animal rights. once you see how animals in factory farms are treated, you will more than likely give up eating meat for good. eat a lot of tofu, beans, whole grains, leafy green vegetables, and peanut butter.

i eat these things every day http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=10806.0 i put the buffalo tofu in a wrap with lettuce, tomatoes, and onions. also check out this site http://vegweb.com/

oh i have. hence the "practice what i preach" part. in fact, i just did a project on the canadian seal hunt, it was quite disturbing research. thanks for the sites i'll check them out.

[shit stroll]

I tried to go vegetarian for a little while to try it out. Then I found Boca Burgers to taste like dirt. Not meaning bad, just like REAL dirt. And I think I made my tofu wrong cause it was like jello... but worse. I dunno. I was too lazy. Try looking out for some punk zines at small punk shows. My PuNx friends are always making them vegan cookbooks.
boca burgers and frozen fake burgers are disgusting; most hardcore vegans wont touch those things.

[hairypotter]

id never go vegetarian even if i feel bad for the animals, people will never stop eating meat its only a personal choice i guess but its not gunna change much ya kno/

[shit stroll]

id never go vegetarian even if i feel bad for the animals, people will never stop eating meat its only a personal choice i guess but its not gunna change much ya kno/
gtfo

[DickfaceChillah]

boca burgers and frozen fake burgers are disgusting; most hardcore vegans wont touch those things.

Glad I'm not alone.

[PadraicPrincess]

id never go vegetarian even if i feel bad for the animals, people will never stop eating meat its only a personal choice i guess but its not gunna change much ya kno/

no.

[shit stroll]

so how long have you been a vegetarian?

[hellogorgeous]

That sounds great. I might have to make that sometime.


mmm bacon wrapped filet mignons!

[Kassie09]

Yeah, being a vegetarian is really easy and not hard. I don't have any recipies though, I don't cook, I'm just really picky and eat basic things.

[daniel.e]

Just eat enough protein and you'll be good. You don't have to change your diet totally, just replace meat with beans, tofu, etc. There are a lot of alternative products on the market today. I personally like tzay and vianas (http://vianabytofutown.com/viana) products. It's also important to have some source of omega 3, you can get that from linseed oil.

Nutrition wise, this is what's most important to have in your vegetarian diet:
Calcium (soy), iron (spinach), selenium (nuts, wholemeal rice), Vitamin D & vitamin B12 (multi-vitamins?), Vitamin B2 (vegetables, beans).

[allthruwinter]

I tried to go vegetarian for a little while to try it out. Then I found Boca Burgers to taste like dirt. Not meaning bad, just like REAL dirt. And I think I made my tofu wrong cause it was like jello... but worse. I dunno. I was too lazy. Try looking out for some punk zines at small punk shows. My PuNx friends are always making them vegan cookbooks.


Boca burgers are total shit, you need to try Morning star veggie burgers, a MILLION times better.

[lovely864md]

Just eat enough protein and you'll be good. You don't have to change your diet totally, just replace meat with beans, tofu, etc. There are a lot of alternative products on the market today. I personally like tzay and vianas (http://vianabytofutown.com/viana) products. It's also important to have some source of omega 3, you can get that from linseed oil.

Nutrition wise, this is what's most important to have in your vegetarian diet:
Calcium (soy), iron (spinach), selenium (nuts, wholemeal rice), Vitamin D & vitamin B12 (multi-vitamins?), Vitamin B2 (vegetables, beans).

Taking mulitvitamins in general is just a good thing, people miss out on so much important stuff.

[daniel.e]

Taking mulitvitamins in general is just a good thing, people miss out on so much important stuff.

I agree. But watch out, some multivitamins contains gelatin. That's not really vegetarian.

[lovely864md]

I agree. But watch out, some multivitamins contains gelatin. That's not really vegetarian.

I still eat the little kid ones, the adult ones make me sick.

[shit stroll]

i think it's better to get your nutrients though food, rather than vitamins.

also, watch your soy intake

[lovely864md]

i think it's better to get your nutrients though food, rather than vitamins.

also, watch your soy intake

Yeah I agree, but I'd rather cover my bases than miss out on something.

[DickfaceChillah]

Boca burgers are total shit, you need to try Morning star veggie burgers, a MILLION times better.

I gave up. I'm sticking with beef.

[shit stroll]

yeah, i take them just to be safe. whole foods makes a pretty good veg multi vitamin.

are you a vegetarian or vegan?

[amysaurus]

I could never go vegetarian. Animals are just too tasty

[shit stroll]

I gave up. I'm sticking with beef.
the wu-tang are not stoked :-p

[DickfaceChillah]

the wu-tang are not stoked :-p

I give them money for their music instead of downloading it, so they can be happy raking in my dough or tough shit. They don't gotta like me for me to like them.

[WakeUpBlondie]

I don't want to be the asshole but...multi-quote? :shrug:

I've always wondered... How do you quote more than one in the same reply?

[xfantabulousx]

get the Boca "chicken" patties and the Morningstar buffalo nuggets. i could live on those two things alone. and in terms of vitamins, I don't really mess with supplements or anything, i just do fortified cereal (like the high protein version of Special K)

[DRUMMERGIRL121]

mexican food is my heaven sent... when i found out i can get beans instead of beef on anything at taco bell i was so happy



Same here.

Chipotle and Qdoba are way better, btw. Im addicted to their veg. burritos.

[alice+interiors]

while I have respect for vegetarians and what they stand for, I could never and will never do it.

[PadraicPrincess]

so how long have you been a vegetarian?

like a week haha. but seriously, my family rarely ate meat before that so its not a big change at all.

[PadraicPrincess]

i think it's better to get your nutrients though food, rather than vitamins.

also, watch your soy intake

yeah i'm kind of worried about getting enough iron. i'm slightly anemic already (low iron in the blood) so i'm thinking of just taking iron pills, although last time i did that they made me feel like shit, it was like eat 10 steaks concentrated into one pill

[PadraicPrincess]

while I have respect for vegetarians and what they stand for, I could never and will never do it.

yee of little faith

[njg418]

YOU ASSHOLE

nah, I guess i just like to treat people individually.

i do the same, dwai.

google meatless menus. SIMPLE AND EFFECTIVE. i only eat chicken, so im kinda that way too.

[SauzaGold]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/hurleygurl2303/tofurkey.jpg

[daniel.e]

Sorry, but that tofurky looks exceptionally gross.

[The_kok]

i heard veggies have smelly cunts

[daniel.e]

i heard veggies have smelly cunts

That's really logical. There's only one way to find out, right?

[SauzaGold]

Sorry, but that tofurky looks exceptionally gross.

agreed. i just remembered seeing it at the store
all the time. i'm definitely not a vegetarian, i used
to be but never ate tofurkey.

[Renee]

Personal advice to you, make sure you're not allergic to anything that is pretty vital to a vegetarian diet.

[TheByrus]

being a vegan/vegitarian is about 20% what you eat and 80% being an asshole/difficult.

[sdbrown]

boca burgers and frozen fake burgers are disgusting; most hardcore vegans wont touch those things.
mmmmm, I loved Garden Burger Chik'n grills when I was vegan. And boca burgers aren't that bad, maybe it's because I've never had a real burger.

OP: www.theppk.com (http://www.theppk.com) It's a brooklyn cooking show that makes making food pretty easy. Some is really good, some isn't. They usually don't use really obscure ingredients so it's easy to shop. I'd really rec. mediterranean food though, like pizzas and soups and stuff. A lot of rustic recipes are vegetarian just because meat used to be so expensive in that area.

Lite Life smart dogs are delicious imo. Some people like the tofu pups, I think they taste like shit that has been chargrilled.

Tofu if prepared correctly is delicious and you can make tofu scrambles for breakfast, use it as ricotta in lasagna, marinate it and use it in a stir fry,etc.

Brown rice is tasty and filling. Middle eastern food is great. Falafel, pita, hummus, Tabouleh, dolmas, couscous with veggies, etc.

Sorry that a lot of this is vegan advice instead of vegetarian. Never ate a lot of meat so I never really ever had to think about what what vegetarian. I would suggest checking out the ingredients of flavored chips (they have chicken and beef flavoring), marshmallows and convenience foods, they tend to hide meaty things in the ingredients (anchovies in snack mix, barf). That's only if you want to be 100% about it though.

[The_kok]

mmmmm, I loved Garden Burger Chik'n grills when I was vegan.

I thought bisexuality was the only female puberty fase

[sdbrown]

I thought bisexuality was the only female puberty fase
...?

If you're trying to insinuate that veganism was only a phase, I still eat and live a vegan lifestyle about 90% of the time. When I get busy and can't shop for two weeks in a row I grab something out of vending machines and much to my chagrin they don't always have pretzels or dark chocolate in those things.

[daniel.e]

agreed. i just remembered seeing it at the store
all the time. i'm definitely not a vegetarian, i used
to be but never ate tofurkey.

I'm glad you havn't ate that. Haha. :P

being a vegan/vegitarian is about 20% what you eat and 80% being an asshole/difficult.

That's not even funny.

[open mind]

being a vegan/vegitarian is about 20% what you eat and 80% being an asshole/difficult.

true.
i'd be more sympathetic with vegetarians and thier cause if they weren't always commenting on how gross i am for what i eat, or bitching about the lack of menu options they have.

[open mind]

That's really logical. There's only one way to find out, right?

it is auctually.......what you eat effects your smell and taste.

[sdbrown]

it is auctually.......what you eat effects your smell and taste.
Meat actually makes you taste/smell worse, unless you date a vegetarian that eats a lot of onions and garlic.

Here we tested the effect of red meat consumption on body odor attractiveness. Results of repeated measures analysis of variance showed that the odor of donors when on the nonmeat diet was judged as significantly more attractive, more pleasant, and less intense. This suggests that red meat consumption has a negative impact on perceived body odor hedonicity.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16891352?dopt=AbstractPlus

And yes, some vegetarians can be asswipes. But a lot of us are really nice, we just get berated by non-vegetarians/vegans for not getting enough protein, looking ill, etc. and it makes us cranky. I can't tell you how many times I was asked "Why are you a vegetarian?" only to be told that what I was saying was lies fed to me by socialist hippies.

[open mind]

Meat actually makes you taste/smell worse, unless you date a vegetarian that eats a lot of onions and garlic.



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16891352?dopt=AbstractPlus

maybe if that study wasn't conducted by people with an obviously pro-vegetarian agenda i'd take it seriously.............well i guess they don't neccesarily have that agenda.......but a study of 30 people is not definitive proof of anything, i also have to wonder how much meat the meat eating participants were eating and what they weren't eating.
some people like different smells and tastes, so being a vegetarian can logically make you smell funny to others is all i'm saying.

what are your reasons for being a veggie?

[daniel.e]

true.
i'd be more sympathetic with vegetarians and thier cause if they weren't always commenting on how gross i am for what i eat, or bitching about the lack of menu options they have.

Not every vegetarian act like that.

[sdbrown]

maybe if that study wasn't conducted by people with an obviously pro-vegetarian agenda i'd take it seriously.............well i guess they don't neccesarily have that agenda.......but a study of 30 people is not definitive proof of anything.
some people like different smells and tastes, so being a vegetarian can logically make you smell funny to others is all i'm saying.
Haha, I don't know if people in Czech republic are all that pro-vegetarian. Maybe they are. I just did a pub med search, I don't know about the authors.

It's probably not the meat itself that affects the smell (though it surely could be), but probably the gunk that gets fed or injected into animals products, especially the stuff at Wendy's or McDonalds. Stuff like antibiotics and BGH aren't well metabolized and probably lead to unpleasant excretions from the liver. Or it could be a function of a vegetarian diet signaling some third variable, like vegetarians are more likely to take care of their heath and work out, or eat more sweet fruits, all of which could and do affect the compounds in bodily excretions.

what are your reasons for being a veggie?
Environmental degradation. It's quite a long winded explanation but there is a pyramid of energy flow in the food chain. At the bottom, a huge base, is plantlife (producers), who get their energy from the sun. The next level, the primary consumers, eat producers. The secondary consumers eat the primary consumers. The tertiary consumers (most 'red-blooded americans', bears, hawks, etc.) eat the secondary consumers. Eat level you go up, the less efficient the diet is. The more energy is wasted, the more pollution. Think about the cows. You gotta grow corn (or wheat, whatever you're feeding them), you gotta feed the cow waaaaay more food than we'd ever eat in a year, and the we have a big steak.

It's much less damaging for the environment to eat at the primary level. Less gas (less corn to grow = less tractors, less corn to ship, less animals = less methane, less transportation to slaughterhouse (less energy used by slaughterhouse) and grocery stores, not to mention cold storage), Less land needed, more people the earth can sustain. that's why I generally cut out milk, cheese and eggs as well, since it doesn't make much sense to want their products but be against killing them. The world would be run amok with cows if they didn't go to the slaughter after they weren't producing milk anymore.

Now that we're having this whole gas crisis a lot of people have started to notice how inefficient these things are. Food network even has a new commercial that recommends people cut out meat two or three days a week to conserve energy.

[open mind]

Not every vegetarian act like that.

yeah, but judging by the ones i've met the vast majority are.

[daniel.e]

yeah, but judging by the ones i've met the vast majority are.

You don't have an open mind sir. Damn I'm lame. Well, I'm sorry your vegetarian friends suck. I've never met an kocky vegetarian. I guess you've just had bad luck.

[open mind]

Haha, I don't know if people in Czech republic are all that pro-vegetarian. Maybe they are. I just did a pub med search, I don't know about the authors.

It's probably not the meat itself that affects the smell (though it surely could be), but probably the gunk that gets fed or injected into animals products, especially the stuff at Wendy's or McDonalds. Stuff like antibiotics and BGH aren't well metabolized and probably lead to unpleasant excretions from the liver. Or it could be a function of a vegetarian diet signaling some third variable, like vegetarians are more likely to take care of their heath and work out, or eat more sweet fruits, all of which could and do affect the compounds in bodily excretions.

yeah, i saw the links on the side about the benefits of a vegetarian lifestyle and jumped to conclusions. i'd still say that studying 30 people doesn't qualify as proof of anything......especially when we have no idea how much meat they ate, where they got the meat, and what they didn't eat.
you don't have to be a vegetarian to avoid eating at mcdonalds or wendys and i eat alot of fruit and take good care of my body, but i'm no vegetarian.

[open mind]

You don't have an open mind sir. Damn I'm lame. Well, I'm sorry your vegetarian friends suck. I've never met an kocky vegetarian. I guess you've just had bad luck.

i think alot of the reasons for being a vegetarian are valid reasons (especially on the enviormental and farm animal treatment issues) but i also think that the answers are a bit to extreme. eating to much meat is bad, but i don't believe cutting it out completely is an any more reasonable alternative.
yeah, it could be bad luck i guess. there are over zelous true believers in every movement.

[open mind]

Environmental degradation. It's quite a long winded explanation but there is a pyramid of energy flow in the food chain. At the bottom, a huge base, is plantlife (producers), who get their energy from the sun. The next level, the primary consumers, eat producers. The secondary consumers eat the primary consumers. The tertiary consumers (most 'red-blooded americans', bears, hawks, etc.) eat the secondary consumers. Eat level you go up, the less efficient the diet is. The more energy is wasted, the more pollution. Think about the cows. You gotta grow corn (or wheat, whatever you're feeding them), you gotta feed the cow waaaaay more food than we'd ever eat in a year, and the we have a big steak.

It's much less damaging for the environment to eat at the primary level. Less gas (less corn to grow = less tractors, less corn to ship, less animals = less methane, less transportation to slaughterhouse (less energy used by slaughterhouse) and grocery stores, not to mention cold storage), Less land needed, more people the earth can sustain. that's why I generally cut out milk, cheese and eggs as well, since it doesn't make much sense to want their products but be against killing them. The world would be run amok with cows if they didn't go to the slaughter after they weren't producing milk anymore.

Now that we're having this whole gas crisis a lot of people have started to notice how inefficient these things are. Food network even has a new commercial that recommends people cut out meat two or three days a week to conserve energy.

well i'd say that those are good reasons to scale back meat consumption (americans definitely eat to much of it) but i wouldn't say that those are good enough reasons to cut out meat consumption all together.

[imahoodlum]

i've been a vegetarian for about three years and i still have a hard time finding this that i like to eat. i am a really picky eater. lack of food gives me headaches and sometimes i become ill. i have a protien shake and vitamins everyday and i still having really bad health problems. my mom and i fight about being a vegetarian all the time. sometimes, i think for my own sake i should stop being a vegetarian but after three years of being so committed to it i don't feel like i could just stop, you know?

[raccoon]

true.
i'd be more sympathetic with vegetarians and thier cause if they weren't always commenting on how gross i am for what i eat, or bitching about the lack of menu options they have.

I don't think that really works, the vegetarians who dont bitch and whine, you don't know theyre vegetarian.

[4N6 science]

I want a huge juicy steak right now.

[jdub420]

id never go vegetarian even if i feel bad for the animals, people will never stop eating meat its only a personal choice i guess but its not gunna change much ya kno/

actually, it does change somethin. for every person that doesnt eat meat, about 20 cows are saved each year, times the million ppl that dont eat meat all over the world. not exactly nothin, ya kno? lol

[jdub420]

being a vegan/vegitarian is about 20% what you eat and 80% being an asshole/difficult.

thats just fukked upp, not all of us are difficulttt orr assholess :[

[Neo Cassady]

Just eat enough protein and you'll be good. You don't have to change your diet totally, just replace meat with beans, tofu, etc. There are a lot of alternative products on the market today. I personally like tzay and vianas (http://vianabytofutown.com/viana) products. It's also important to have some source of omega 3, you can get that from linseed oil.

Nutrition wise, this is what's most important to have in your vegetarian diet:
Calcium (soy), iron (spinach), selenium (nuts, wholemeal rice), Vitamin D & vitamin B12 (multi-vitamins?), Vitamin B2 (vegetables, beans).

Most intelligent post in this thread.

[jdub420]

true.
i'd be more sympathetic with vegetarians and thier cause if they weren't always commenting on how gross i am for what i eat, or bitching about the lack of menu options they have.


i dont eat meat n think its grosss, but i dont actually tell other ppl that they cant eat w.e they wantt. just cuz i wana be vegetarian doesnt mean everyone has to be, altho it would be interestingg lol

[njg418]

Boca burgers are total shit, you need to try Morning star veggie burgers, a MILLION times better.


this is soosoo true

[Neo Cassady]

Boca burgers are total shit, you need to try Morning star veggie burgers, a MILLION times better.

Morningstar Tomato and Basil Pizza Burgers are wonderful.

[llwilliamsll]

I know many a chinese recipes...some italian recipes...make your own pizzas...sandwiches and you can always google it. I'd totally throw some recipes down but that takes a lot of work and I really usually just wing it.

tl;dr
Google "vegetarian recipes"

[imahoodlum]

i like almost all the morningstar products.

[llwilliamsll]

i dont eat meat n think its grosss, but i dont actually tell other ppl that they cant eat w.e they wantt. just cuz i wana be vegetarian doesnt mean everyone has to be, altho it would be interestingg lol
For being 23, your ability to type properly using grammar and spelling is atrocious. You really should be ashamed of yourself. Slut.

Morningstar Tomato and Basil Pizza Burgers are wonderful.
I had one for lunch today. Another thing I like to do is using Morningstar Buffalo Wings in salads with avocados, onions, carrots, whatever else. Real good.

[open mind]

I don't think that really works, the vegetarians who dont bitch and whine, you don't know theyre vegetarian.

that's not true..........every once in a great while i'll meet someone and offer them something with meat in it to eat they'll just politely say "no thanks man, i don't eat meat".......it's not often but it has happened.

[open mind]

actually, it does change somethin. for every person that doesnt eat meat, about 20 cows are saved each year, times the million ppl that dont eat meat all over the world. not exactly nothin, ya kno? lol

where the hell did you pull that number from? oh that's right, your ass.
taking into account the fact that alot of a cow isn't eaten you still can't say that even the most carnivorous of americans eat 20 cows worth of meat a year.

[Keaton]

mexican food is my heaven sent... when i found out i can get beans instead of beef on anything at taco bell i was so happy

bean and rice burritos at chipotle, annas taqueria, or qdoba are what I live on.
mmmm. I was vegan for 2 months, but its hard to keep it balanced. being just vegetarian is easy bc of so many dairy products.

[PadraicPrincess]

California veggie burgers are good. I had one last night. Bocca burgers taste like plastic. I don't criticize anyone for eating meat, its a personal choice. I would never be a vegan though.

[Willy McFurgle]

Morningstar Tomato and Basil Pizza Burgers are wonderful.

That stuffs good, Boca ain't got shit on morning star

[jdub420]

For being 23, your ability to type properly using grammar and spelling is atrocious. You really should be ashamed of yourself. Slut.


i dont really give a fuck what u think of my typingg. im not a slut, stfu.

[jdub420]

where the hell did you pull that number from? oh that's right, your ass.
taking into account the fact that alot of a cow isn't eaten you still can't say that even the most carnivorous of americans eat 20 cows worth of meat a year.

and yeaa i dont know the exact numberr, but i kno its between 15-20. and u dont eat 20 cows per year, but after all tha waste they throw out its around that per person. check the peta website if u rele donttt believe me.

[jdub420]

That stuffs good, Boca ain't got shit on morning star


yeaa fuck boca haha. morning star is SOO much betterrr :]

[Neo Cassady]

and yeaa i dont know the exact numberr, but i kno its between 15-20. and u dont eat 20 cows per year, but after all tha waste they throw out its around that per person. check the peta website if u rele donttt believe me.

I'm all for a vegetarian lifestyle, but seriously, fuck PETA.

[daniel.e]

Most intelligent post in this thread.

Thank you!

[Neo Cassady]

Thank you!

No problem. You brought up a good point in that people need to get enough protein. And this actually goes along with my anti-PETA post just above yours...the reason I don't like them (besides their uber-preachiness) is that they tell people that it's ok just to cut meat out of your diet. Now, I haven't looked at literature from them in a while, but at least a couple of years ago they mentioned NOTHING about getting that lost protein back. Vegetarianism is a healthy lifestyle if it's done right, and PETA doesn't promote it the right way.

[sdbrown]

No problem. You brought up a good point in that people need to get enough protein. And this actually goes along with my anti-PETA post just above yours...the reason I don't like them (besides their uber-preachiness) is that they tell people that it's ok just to cut meat out of your diet. Now, I haven't looked at literature from them in a while, but at least a couple of years ago they mentioned NOTHING about getting that lost protein back. Vegetarianism is a healthy lifestyle if it's done right, and PETA doesn't promote it the right way.
Maybe it's because I never really followed a 'typical' american diet but I never worried about protein before going vegan. I ate meat maybe twice a week. I was fine then, I'm fine now. It's made into such a big issue but if you're only going vegetarian odds are you will have no problem getting the essential amino acids your body needs from dairy and eggs (+ additional starches/grains). Veganism is a little harder I guess, but you still have amino acids from starches (peas, corn, soy), wheat, rice, pasta, quinoa, amaranth, vital wheat gluten etc.

Things like B12 are the things you have to worry about, as it's not readily available in anything but animal products. I take supplements made from cyanobacteria (the research is still out on whether it works effectively) but I know not everyone who adopts the diet does.

I've taken a few food science/nutrition classes and it's equally frustrating and humorous that the same people who always used to ask me about getting enough protein at dinner parties/family get togethers would load their plate with steak, chicken or whatever and never touched a vegetable. Protein is important, but can you argue it is more important than the vitamins and minerals that are mostly found in fruits and veggies? People assume that the diet is unhealthy because it deviates from the norm or cuts too much of a food group out, but I think sometimes they forget to evaluate the health of their own diet before judging others'.

[Tyler Revolution]

http://blogs.chron.com/beltwayconfidential/cheeseburger.jpg

I could never give something like this up.

[Tyler Revolution]

http://www.gan.ca/images/hooks/slaughterhousecattle.bmp

Mmmmmmmmmmm.

[branddyy]

i've been a vegetarian for like...2 or 3 years now.
i eat a lotta pasta.
it's not really a big deal. just...don't eat meat.
it's not that hard to do. really.

[sdbrown]

This is exactly what I am talking about when I say most vegetarians are not assholes, they just become defensive when those that eat meat purposely try to instigate them by posting things like this:

http://www.gan.ca/images/hooks/slaughterhousecattle.bmp

Mmmmmmmmmmm.

Not that I care about beef carcasses, anatomy doesn't phase me, but come on, this is just as bad as those elitist vegetarians you probably love to complain about.

[TheByrus]

thats just fukked upp, not all of us are difficulttt orr assholess :[



i'm a vegan and i'm an asshole.


you have to be or you get screwed.



there are 2 kinds of vegetarians.


those who are assholes and those who lie about it.

[Tyler Revolution]

This is exactly what I am talking about when I say most vegetarians are not assholes, they just become defensive when those that eat meat purposely try to instigate them by posting things like this:



Not that I care about beef carcasses, anatomy doesn't phase me, but come on, this is just as bad as those elitist vegetarians you probably love to complain about.

I haven't complained about vegetarians. Quit your bitching.

Oh, and:

http://www.peta.org/feat/madcow/deadpigs.jpg

[Tyler Revolution]

For being 23, your ability to type properly using grammar and spelling is atrocious. You really should be ashamed of yourself. Slut.

Golden.

[open mind]

and yeaa i dont know the exact numberr, but i kno its between 15-20. and u dont eat 20 cows per year, but after all tha waste they throw out its around that per person. check the peta website if u rele donttt believe me.

did you not read my post? i did say that even when you take into account the amount of cow that isn't eaten it won't add up to 20.
peta is anything but a unbiased source for facts about meat consumption, so i don't believe anything that comes from them. if you have source that has a bit of integrity still associated with it's name i'll be happy to check them out though.
let's just try a common sense approach here shall we?
i eat meat every other meal or so, and when i do i don't only eat beef nor is it the majority of the meal, so i might eat a half a pound of meat a day (just to be generous i'll forget that i abstain from meat during christmas and paschal lents and on mondays and fridays throughout the year)........365 divided by 2 is = 182......a generous estimate would be allowing for beef to be a third of my meat consumption 182 divided by 3 = about 61......i probably eat less beef then most people so let's (again generously) quadruple that number and say the average person eats 244 pounds of beef a year...........even that is nowhere near approaching 20 cows worth of meat.

[Neo Cassady]

Maybe it's because I never really followed a 'typical' american diet but I never worried about protein before going vegan. I ate meat maybe twice a week. I was fine then, I'm fine now. It's made into such a big issue but if you're only going vegetarian odds are you will have no problem getting the essential amino acids your body needs from dairy and eggs (+ additional starches/grains). Veganism is a little harder I guess, but you still have amino acids from starches (peas, corn, soy), wheat, rice, pasta, quinoa, amaranth, vital wheat gluten etc.

Things like B12 are the things you have to worry about, as it's not readily available in anything but animal products. I take supplements made from cyanobacteria (the research is still out on whether it works effectively) but I know not everyone who adopts the diet does.

I've taken a few food science/nutrition classes and it's equally frustrating and humorous that the same people who always used to ask me about getting enough protein at dinner parties/family get togethers would load their plate with steak, chicken or whatever and never touched a vegetable. Protein is important, but can you argue it is more important than the vitamins and minerals that are mostly found in fruits and veggies? People assume that the diet is unhealthy because it deviates from the norm or cuts too much of a food group out, but I think sometimes they forget to evaluate the health of their own diet before judging others'.

Good points, all. I did know that about B12. The problem with protein is that a lot of people in America DO eat the 'typical American diet' which relies on meat for a lot more than it should. In those instances, simply cutting it out is not healthy.

[fightoffyrdmns]

I know it was atleast a page back or so, but I'm glad somebody went veg for the environmentally conscious reason. That's the same reason I went veg almost five months ago.

I definitely agree with vegetarians having to retaliate in a way. I find it extremely immature and ignorant to come in here and post a high-res photo of a burger. I don't find it personally offending and it doesn't make me want to vomit on the spot, but it is a dick move.

Also, I don't think I'm a rude vegetarian as my best friend didn't even know until yesterday actually, but after going to Europe and seeing almost every restaurant offer a vegetarian menu with considerably more options, it is upsetting to not see an emphasis on that back here.

[Regards]

Vegetarians make me lol.

[Bd_fallen]

ive been a vegetarian for almost a year now
peta.com has some really good recipies

why did you decide to go veg?
it was a personal goal of mine- not really for the animals, but kinda

[Smash Adams]

ive been a vegetarian for almost a year now
peta.com has some really good recipies

why did you decide to go veg?
it was a personal goal of mine- not really for the animals, but kinda
PETA is awful, I love animals but they go about saving them in completely extreme ways

[imahoodlum]

people who are vegetarians for the wrong reasons annoy me.

[shit stroll]

lol. what are some "wrong reasons" ?

[chronomic]

vegetarians are phased motherfuckers

[chronomic]

fuck i keep getting the color wrong

[imahoodlum]

because they think it's cool.i had a friend who was a vegetarian for this reason. i know she was. she didn't know anything about being a vegetarian and it's signifigance. she just wanted to be one.

[shit stroll]

vegetarians are phased motherfuckers
what?

[chronomic]

anyone who follows anything for the sake of following a trend is lame. cant get much more fake than that.

[chronomic]

what?

i just wanted to say phased mother fuckers, thats it. and to copy this chick who keeps posting in some green color that i cant fuckin find.

[imahoodlum]

anyone who follows anything for the sake of following a trend is lame. cant get much more fake than that.
that was my friend. it annoyed the hell out of me.

[binxybabeh]

The only thing I can suggest is tofu. Its amazing if you know how to cook it well.

[Bd_fallen]

PETA is awful, I love animals but they go about saving them in completely extreme ways


yeah- PETA is insane
im all for animal rights
but the way they try to achieve it isnt right
i only go on their site for the food lol

[sdbrown]

The only thing I can suggest is tofu. Its amazing if you know how to cook it well.
fresh tofu is absolutely amazing by itself :)

[binxybabeh]

fresh tofu is absolutely amazing by itself :)

I agree. I am a huge tofu smoothie fan too. :-D

[DRUMMERGIRL121]

If anyone likes Chinese, General Tso's Tofu is pretty good, especially when its a little crispy.

[binxybabeh]

I love tofu in chinese. Yummmmy.

[jnnlopez]

Being a vegetarian isn't hard. I didn't change my diet too much. I'm also a super picky eater. I basically live off of fruits, vegetables and Morningstar Chik'n strips in salad. Those things are good. I take a crapload of vitamins too. Iron pills are a must for me.

[AlternateToLife]

I love tofu in chinese. Yummmmy.

Cause they deep fry it. So fucking good.

[ThemChains]

Being vegetarian/vegan in Richmond is the easiest shit ever.