Grand Theft America

[Jason Tate]

Part of me is posting this (http://www.ericblumrich.com/gta.html) because I saw the link on Epitaph.com (http://www.epitaph.com), part of me is posting it because I wonder how certain people will argue this information. Know the facts, register to vote.

For further reading:
www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=29&row=1 (http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=29&row=1)

[kylekillspeople]

while i am somewhat impressed with the fact that you chose to do some degree of research tate, i would be really interested if you would go so far as to host a DEBATE on your website and maybe offer some of your own ideas rather than those of a liberal theorist, or at least allow someone (no i am not nominating myself) from the conservative side of politics to rebut the statements you offer so as to actually inform voters. giving someone one side of the story and calling it politics is like taking a wheel off of a car and calling it a tricycle. put your money where your mouth is and actually do this the fair ( as far as politics goes) political way.

[Jason Tate]

while i am somewhat impressed with the fact that you chose to do some degree of research tate, i would be really interested if you would go so far as to host a DEBATE on your website and maybe offer some of your own ideas rather than those of a liberal theorist, or at least allow someone (no i am not nominating myself) from the conservative side of politics to rebut the statements you offer so as to actually inform voters. giving someone one side of the story and calling it politics is like taking a wheel off of a car and calling it a tricycle. put your money where your mouth is and actually do this the fair ( as far as politics goes) political way.
everyone has my IM name: Twenty8FootFall - if someone wants to, IM me .. I'll talk politics and post the convo here if they want, I'm down. Gunz has discussed politics with me many, many times..

[kylekillspeople]

one of your quotes, which i guess got recycled due to the insane amount of replies to this post said "when its liberal its propaganda when its republican its fact" the original post seems to contradict that tate. lets not get hypocritical.

[kylekillspeople]

alright i'll take that down. we'll have chat one of these days when i dont have to work.

[Jason Tate]

one of your quotes, which i guess got recycled due to the insane amount of replies to this post said "when its liberal its propaganda when its republican its fact" the original post seems to contradict that tate. lets not get hypocritical.
that comment was simply to point out the hypocratic nature of certain people on these boards..

and i'll be the first to admit that there have been times i have fallen into that same pitfall..

when the facts change, my postions change ...

[kylekillspeople]

but thats the exact thing im arguing. we dont know what any of the facts are at this point in time. you dont know that there are no WMD and i dont know that there are. going so far as to call something fact and offer it to perspective voters is grossly irresponsible. that isnt fact, its what you choose to believe, and theres nothing wrong with that, i just choose to beleive that there are WMD. just an example of what im trying to argue.

[Jason Tate]

and what i am saying, is that just the thought of WMDs .. the 'preventive war' attitude (that is illegal by the same laws we used as justification for the war), sets to dangerous of a precident for it to go unchecked...

[kylekillspeople]

ok, your opinion is that the war is worthless and wrong. youre entitled to that. but if that great of a segment of american society thought the war was wrong dont you think they would lobby their congressmen to vote to recall troops and end hostilities? i know this isnt going to sway yours or anyone elses opinion on the matter but the fact is that most of america supports the actions going on in iraq.