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xnotedgex
03/25/04, 09:13 AM
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&B=39828
yeat182
03/25/04, 10:50 AM
thats funny, because i've heard the opposite, that Clarke was the one telling contradictory statements and simply using the hearing as the first step on his book tour.
xnotedgex
03/25/04, 10:57 AM
thats funny, because i've heard the opposite, that Clarke was the one telling contradictory statements and simply using the hearing as the first step on his book tour.

where did you hear this?
yeat182
03/25/04, 11:05 AM
various news outlets. and yes, that includes fox news, but also local news and i believe i saw something on msnbc.
xnotedgex
03/25/04, 11:08 AM
various news outlets. and yes, that includes fox news, but also local news and i believe i saw something on msnbc.

i'd like to read about....i've presented some citations which prove my viewpoint...anything to support yours would be helpful

actually, now that i think about it...i do remember hearing something about clarke praising bush following 9/11 or something like that and now he's going back on that...something like that...is that what you're referring to?
yeat182
03/25/04, 11:13 AM
yeah, i think following 9/11 he said some stuff about how well the adminstration was doing, and then yesterday claimed he was "spinning" for the administration. also i remembered one show mentioned in his resignation letter to bush in january of this year, he praised bush personally, and now appears to be ripping him. I know on O'reilly last night he interviewed a student that takes Clarkes class at Harvard and the student talked about how clear it was that Clarke has a "hatred" of the bush administration, etc.

i'll see what i can find...
yeat182
03/25/04, 11:23 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115177,00.html

thats from O'reilly, i'll look for more later, but its a start. i think he has another story about it on his site as well, you might want to check it out, i didn't read it yet though.
xnotedgex
03/25/04, 12:04 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115177,00.html

thats from O'reilly, i'll look for more later, but its a start. i think he has another story about it on his site as well, you might want to check it out, i didn't read it yet though.

he seems to be lacking in the credibility dept as well...we'll just all have to wait for the final finding from the commision this summer...although there will be doubt me tons and tons of debate on that
hXc_pwnage
03/25/04, 01:00 PM
If you could provide me with ONE politician that has never gone back on there word, I would shit myself. They all do it, to please everyone above them and the people. That's just how it all works. But I believe him a lot, mainly because he is a Republican going against a Republican. Also taking a lot of shit for it...
Justin_stacy
03/25/04, 02:01 PM
a Republican going against a Republican. ...

That is such a stupid response, this man is obviously not a republican, and his complete acceptance of Clinton’s failures in terrorism for 8 years, while denouncing and lying about bush’s first 200 days….Proves that…


http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/03/30/National/Records.Show.Richard.Clarke.Gave.On ly.To.Democrats-641404.shtml