When Band's Mature

[oreo_emokid89]

I hate it when bands 'mature'.I can only remember one band to date that have "matured" that i like more (Yellowcard).

For example, Thursday one of, if not my favorite band of all time, Waiting was a fucking classic album, my favorite album of all time hands down, Full Collapse was great album too, not as good as Waiting but still good, and then War All The Time came out, i was shocked, nowhere near where I expected it to be.

Hopesfall, another band I like, I loved their first album, their EP was good, and The Sattelite Years was still a great album, but didn't measure up to their previous efforts, and now that they are supposedly getting less hard i don't know if i'll still like them as much as i do now. The reason i love the first two albums is because of the screams. However on the sattelite years the guitar work did get better so it's hard to complain.

My last example is Brand New, their first album was an awesome pop-punk album, it had some weak spots (Mix-Tape) but it was still a solid album, but then Deja Entendu came out, everyone praised it, but me don't think it was such a great album. I only like about 4 of the songs on the album, and i never listen to it anymore.

Another thing is when harder bands mature they start singing more, and screaming less. Why can't you mature and still stay hard?
Although for some bands this is a good thing, like Funeral For a Friend, 7 Ways was just a dismal post-hardcore album, but from the 2 songs on their purevolume page it seems they've drifted more to the softer side, but still have some screams in the background.

Anyway I just want your imput...

[TENSOR123]

yea i agree about brand new, their new stuff is alot softer but it's still not bad. one band that has definately "matured" is green day, i know from dookie/insomniac til now has been a long time period so it's pretty normal for a change in their sound, but i liked the older stuff alot better. i would even say saves the day has changed alot since "through being cool." but what can ya do about it?

[towhatend]

No. just no.

[hXc_pwnage]

Wow, Brand New is better now. I loved their old stuff, but the new stuff is so much more...heart felt.

Thursday is still amazing.

[aurora]

No. just no.
What he said.

And I agree with TJ as well.

[In2MyHurricaine]

Wow, Brand New is better now. I loved their old stuff, but the new stuff is so much more...heart felt.

enough said....

[richter915]

I dunno...I actually agree with the oreo fella. I don't like bands after they "mature"...cept for sum 41...they're follow up album was just amazing. But what's kool is they still know how to have fun. I think the biggest example of a band maturing and going to shit cause of it is blink 182...Dude Ranch...my all-time favorite album...enema of the state...another AMAZING album...then TOYPAJ comes out...more serious, but tolerable...nice balance actually...then this new untitled stuff? just, no. I just dislike how when a band "matures", it's automatically a good thing. blink says that this new album is the "REAL" blink 182...so the band that got me into punk rock and pretty much shaped a lot of my life was just a sham? fucked up.

[oreo_emokid89]

I just dislike how when a band "matures", it's automatically a good thing. blink says that this new album is the "REAL" blink 182...so the band that got me into punk rock and pretty much shaped a lot of my life was just a sham? fucked up.

exactly, plus a lot of these bands seem a lot more honest when they just start out, for example brand new, their first album seemed more sincere than Deja Entendu (with the exception of Gurnica) it seemed like Jesse was trying too hard to be witty than to just have honest lyrics

[Alex Djaferis]

hey emokid. I really am not gonna say the next thing to piss you of...

But maybe yiou should wait till you mature a bit...im not saying your immature...but your what...born in 89. thats 14 years old....back then i remember pretty much everyone hated it when a band changed or mellowed out because its not what we want to hear at that age.
I usually tend to find when bands mature that they progress quite alot and end up sounding more complete...but when we're younger, what do we care about progress? we just want to listen to what we're used too...no change is needed back then.

yes i am running the risk of sounding eternally stupid here as im 19, and thats not exactly too much older lol but its getting there.

Of course i may be completely underestimating your knowledge in the musical field...but from the vast majority of 14 year olds ive always met and liked punk/emo...this is the response id give to them =)

give it a few years, or just ignore me lol.

[Alex Djaferis]

I dunno...I actually agree with the oreo fella. I don't like bands after they "mature"...cept for sum 41...they're follow up album was just amazing. But what's kool is they still know how to have fun. I think the biggest example of a band maturing and going to shit cause of it is blink 182...Dude Ranch...my all-time favorite album...enema of the state...another AMAZING album...then TOYPAJ comes out...more serious, but tolerable...nice balance actually...then this new untitled stuff? just, no. I just dislike how when a band "matures", it's automatically a good thing. blink says that this new album is the "REAL" blink 182...so the band that got me into punk rock and pretty much shaped a lot of my life was just a sham? fucked up.


and yes, some bands do get worse =) but i dont think most do..i think most find a better musical niche for them to feel comfortable in.

[saosinteam]

Wow, Brand New is better now. I loved their old stuff, but the new stuff is so much more...heart felt.

Thursday is still amazing.
exactly.


hey emokid. I really am not gonna say the next thing to piss you of...

But maybe yiou should wait till you mature a bit...im not saying your immature...but your what...born in 89. thats 14 years old....back then i remember pretty much everyone hated it when a band changed or mellowed out because its not what we want to hear at that age.
I usually tend to find when bands mature that they progress quite alot and end up sounding more complete...but when we're younger, what do we care about progress? we just want to listen to what we're used too...no change is needed back then.

yes i am running the risk of sounding eternally stupid here as im 19, and thats not exactly too much older lol but its getting there.
i agree with this completely, even down to the being 19 part haha.
also... no offense to the younger kids, but you're going to go through things in the next few years that will make you able to relate to the mature music a LOT more.

random- i've hated blink for the past 2 or 3 years, and i love the new album.

another band who matured completely FOR THE BETTER- park. their latest album is just absolutley amazing... if you kids loved deja entendu, check it out.

[The Bled 13]

Everyone changes. I don't mind changing.

[Coronary Parasite]

No. just no.
thank you.

it's too bad bands don't release the same album with a different name after all no band has every gotten better with every album right? the beatles should've stuck with the pop sound of "i wanna hold your hand" cause their later stuff sucked.

asshole

[richter915]

ya Peedster made a really good point...as he always does...that freak...a year or two I was all pop punk...then I went metal (cause I was trying to be all tough...grr) then I went to like...finch stuff...back to pop punk...now I'm more into hardcore...and I really doubt I'll change from here on...true I'm only 17...but I think hardcore has provided me with a nice mixture of all the types of music I once loved.

In conclusion...give it some time, your musical tastes WILL change...probably for the better.

[richter915]

oh also, I'd like to ask what you guys consider "maturing". I mean...I dunno if this applies to all but I know that from what I hear..."maturing" means writing music with a lot of whitty metaphors and twists to common sayings..."mature" means revolving nearly all of your lyrics around well...girls and relationships...I don't see how "mature" that really is but that's what I'm seeing.

[SpeciesismSucks]

Wow, Brand New is better now. I loved their old stuff, but the new stuff is so much more...heart felt.


Fuck heart felt! their new music is horrific in comparison to Your Favorite Weapon

Jude Law, Mix Tape, Magazines, Failure By, Seventy Times, Sudden Death, Soco Am, everything. That album is amazing. Deja Entendu's lyrics may be just as meaningful or even more so, but without their pop-punk (or whatever) style they just can not meet the standards they set for themselves

[Coronary Parasite]

^^you're out of your mind

that record blows compared to deja i was never a big brand new fan because that record was second rate pop punk the new album blew everything away

[mirtizzle]

i want to listen to the same high school break up songs for the rest of a band's career
just say no to maturation

[towhatend]

I enjoyed Your Favorite Weopon when it came out but i wasn't crazy about it. When I heard Deja Entendu they become one of my favourite bands.

[Coronary Parasite]

^^exactly
i want to listen to the same high school break up songs for the rest of a band's career
just say no to maturation
haha that was perfect

[oreo_emokid89]

i want to listen to the same high school break up songs for the rest of a band's career
just say no to maturation

if you read my post i talked more about bands that don't make "high school break up songs" (hopesfall and thursday)

[mirtizzle]

if you read my post i talked more about bands that don't make "high school break up songs" (hopesfall and thursday)

so wouldn't what you're talking about be more along the lines of "progression"?

[still_above_me]

saves the day (see other post by me)
i think both of brand new's albums are tight.
yellowcard i like their old stuff
dashboard

[Coronary Parasite]

so wouldn't what you're talking about be more along the lines of "progression"?
please keep being right. please.

[hXc_pwnage]

^^you're out of your mind

that record blows compared to deja i was never a big brand new fan because that record was second rate pop punk the new album blew everything away
Hahaha, Scott got fucking OWNED! :tounge:

Like I said, I loved their old stuff. But come on...Gurnica, Tommy Gun, Sic Transit...<333

[Phil507]

There was smoke coming out of the side of my head when I read this post and some of the dumbass replies. I'm going to try to contain myself and deliver a thoughtful and constructive response.

I hate it when bands 'mature'.I can only remember one band to date that have "matured" that i like more (Yellowcard).

Not really "maturing" there buddy, just major label production. Ocean Avenue definetly sounds better than One For The Kids.


For example, Thursday one of, if not my favorite band of all time, Waiting was a fucking classic album, my favorite album of all time hands down, Full Collapse was great album too, not as good as Waiting but still good, and then War All The Time came out, i was shocked, nowhere near where I expected it to be.

Doesn't make much sense, because War All The Time is basically a carbon copy of Full Collapse. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's basically the same record (before all you kids with the shaggy emo haircuts jump down my throat, I think they're an awesome band and both those records are great). I think their songwriting definetly became more focused and meaningful over the times. Just because something doesn't have as many "screams" in it, doesn't mean that it's still not worthy of attention. And also, why don't you make some fucking points as to why you don't think War All The Time matches up to the previous. Saying that you were "shocked" doesn't really help us out.


Hopesfall, another band I like, I loved their first album, their EP was good, and The Sattelite Years was still a great album, but didn't measure up to their previous efforts, and now that they are supposedly getting less hard i don't know if i'll still like them as much as i do now. The reason i love the first two albums is because of the screams. However on the sattelite years the guitar work did get better so it's hard to complain.

I'm not too familiar with this band (saw them open for The Juliana Theory once). When I saw them I wasn't that impressed so I won't argue anything here, since I won't know what I'm talking about.


My last example is Brand New, their first album was an awesome pop-punk album, it had some weak spots (Mix-Tape) but it was still a solid album, but then Deja Entendu came out, everyone praised it, but me don't think it was such a great album. I only like about 4 of the songs on the album, and i never listen to it anymore.

Hmmm, someone above me mentioned you were born in 1989, so, that what make you about as old as my younger sister (14-15). Now (pay attention) Brand New's first record was released in 2001. The band wrote many of those songs when they were 17 years old. That was way before the album hit the stores and I'm guessing you weren't one of the first ones to buy the record (or download it off Kazaa as most ignorant fucks do these days). The issue here is, you're at a different part of your life when you're 17 as opposed to when you're 23. There are emotions you feel at 17 that seem kind of lame and stupid at age 23. For example, I'm 20 right now. I don't really have to deal with the butterflies in my stomach when my "crush" walks by my locker, or when I see my ex arm in arm with another guy at a school dance. So it's stupid to expect a band to keep focusing on the same things as they grow older. Same goes to Blink-182, do you really want to hear 30-year-olds singing about high school? I know I don't. And again, you didn't really give much examples as to WHY you felt Deja Entendu didn't compare to Your Favorite Weapon (except for complaining that there wasn't as much pop-punk). Oh, and Mix Tape was actually one of the better songs, it stood out since it changed the pace. I do agree though, everyone jizzed their pants way too much about this record. It is really good, but it didn't make me have to change my boxers.


Another thing is when harder bands mature they start singing more, and screaming less. Why can't you mature and still stay hard?
Although for some bands this is a good thing, like Funeral For a Friend, 7 Ways was just a dismal post-hardcore album, but from the 2 songs on their purevolume page it seems they've drifted more to the softer side, but still have some screams in the background.


The Funeral For A Friend record is great. Had it in on my hard drive for a long time (yes, I actually will buy the CD when it lands stateside in July). Believe it or not, screaming meaninglessly just gets stail and boring real fast (see Slipknot for an example). I think the reason people make music is to make music they are proud of, not to just be "hard." And I consider stuff heavy if it brings out heavy emotions, not just how many distorted power chords a band can rip through while their singer swings the microphone around with his mop haircut falling in his face.

[aurora]

Damn.

[Phil507]

I dunno...I actually agree with the oreo fella. I don't like bands after they "mature"...cept for sum 41...they're follow up album was just amazing. But what's kool is they still know how to have fun. I think the biggest example of a band maturing and going to shit cause of it is blink 182...Dude Ranch...my all-time favorite album...enema of the state...another AMAZING album...then TOYPAJ comes out...more serious, but tolerable...nice balance actually...then this new untitled stuff? just, no. I just dislike how when a band "matures", it's automatically a good thing. blink says that this new album is the "REAL" blink 182...so the band that got me into punk rock and pretty much shaped a lot of my life was just a sham? fucked up.

On another note, it's hard to be taken seriously when you actually spell cool "kool." And, as I said before, do you really want 30 year old men singing about "waiting in the car to pick up their first date". Pathetic....

The new Blink CD is great. Sure, the others served their purpose and were great listening experiences, but this record proves that their growing into their own as a band.

[saosinteam]

Damn.
For real.
This place needs more intelligent posters like Phil.

[Alex Djaferis]

I enjoyed Your Favorite Weopon when it came out but i wasn't crazy about it. When I heard Deja Entendu they become one of my favourite bands.

same here

[richter915]

On another note, it's hard to be taken seriously when you actually spell cool "kool." And, as I said before, do you really want 30 year old men singing about "waiting in the car to pick up their first date". Pathetic....

The new Blink CD is great. Sure, the others served their purpose and were great listening experiences, but this record proves that their growing into their own as a band.
I spell kool with a k cause solely for simplicity (the k key is closer to the o and l keys on your keyboard).

I can totally agree with you that old guys singing about being young is pretty lame. But just cause you're thirty doesn't necessarily mean you're mentally thirty. The whole reason behind boxcar racer (I think) was because delonge wanted to go in that path, and hoppus disagreed...because that sorta music doesn't really reflect the kinda people they are. I think the new blink album is a catastrophe...just knowing that this is their first "real" album is a disappointment for me and a few others out there. How can any of you give such praise to a band who has pretty much lied to their fans since day one? But that's my beef with blink.

Also, you sorta contradict yourself. You say a band of 30 year olds shouldn't sing about their first dates. Then you should also agree that a band of 30 year olds who are married and have kids, should not sing about heartbreaks of the past. But this goes back to my theory about society's infatuation with pessimism and negative emotion, sadness...one would rather hear about missing a girl than about being happy with a girl. and, ya. that's all.

[Coronary Parasite]

oh my god phil i love you

but don't rip on richter even if i disagree with him...

[hXc_pwnage]

I'm sorry, but Ocean Avenue compares in no way to One For The Kids.

[The Bled 13]

I don't like Yellowcard..

[hXc_pwnage]

I don't like Yellowcard..
AND THEY DON'T LIKE YOU!!!

:p

[SpeciesismSucks]

Hahaha, Scott got fucking OWNED! :tounge:

Like I said, I loved their old stuff. But come on...Gurnica, Tommy Gun, Sic Transit...<333

hahaha, I only said their new album is bad in comparison, but Deja Entendu has had maybe fifteen plays in the player while Your Favorite Weapon is probably pulling around like uhhhh 300?

Guerninca is good... so is The Boy Who Blocked His Own Shot... yea and I believe You, But MY Tommy Gun don't... yea shut the fuck up old Brand New is better

end

=P

[Coronary Parasite]

^^no

[SpeciesismSucks]

yes. end.

[hXc_pwnage]

yes. end.
Sorry, but you got pwned TWICE.

Haha. :stormtroo

[richter915]

uhm...^^ nice sig...911 for peace...good times. Though I have to say, today I gave a listen to some brand new...I can only give credit to guernica though it resembles sic transit gloria a bit...and when it starts out...it reminds me of the beginning of POD's youth of the nation...and parts of I think jaws theme swimming reminds me of smooth criminal.

[still_above_me]

For real.
This place needs more intelligent posters like Phil.
so what your saying, is that you feel this way towards the non-intelligent posters. why is that? i think we need to look deeper. do you have insecure relationship with men. is that why you are prejudice against people of lesser intelligence? because behind that prejudice, i think there is a person. a caring person. and you just gotta tell that person, honey, we're coming out.

dr phil channel 3 on at 2.

[hXc_pwnage]

so what your saying, is that you feel this way towards the non-intelligent posters. why is that? i think we need to look deeper. do you have insecure relationship with men. is that why you are prejudice against people of lesser intelligence? because behind that prejudice, i think there is a person. a caring person. and you just gotta tell that person, honey, we're coming out.

dr phil channel 3 on at 2.
What's wrong with being ***?

You fucking homophobic piece of shit.

[oreo_emokid89]

Doesn't make much sense, because War All The Time is basically a carbon copy of Full Collapse. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's basically the same record (before all you kids with the shaggy emo haircuts jump down my throat, I think they're an awesome band and both those records are great). I think their songwriting definetly became more focused and meaningful over the times. Just because something doesn't have as many "screams" in it, doesn't mean that it's still not worthy of attention. And also, why don't you make some fucking points as to why you don't think War All The Time matches up to the previous. Saying that you were "shocked" doesn't really help us out.

Believe it or not, screaming meaninglessly just gets stail and boring real fast (see Slipknot for an example). I think the reason people make music is to make music they are proud of, not to just be "hard." And I consider stuff heavy if it brings out heavy emotions, not just how many distorted power chords a band can rip through while their singer swings the microphone around with his mop haircut falling in his face.

what are you so angry about? anyway, i do dissagree with you, i think WATT and Full Collapse are tottaly different records. Also, i didnt say that because it lacked screams it was a bad record. i said my favorite album of all time was Waiting, which i think has less screams than both of thoes albums. plus look at my sig, and notice the dashboard lyrics, and of cource dashboard is one of the hardest bands out there...

And it's my opinion that Full Collapse was better because despite what thursday said, War All The Time still had a political vibe to me. Full Collapse just had so many awesome songs on it. Understanding, Autubiography of a Nation (one of like...3 political songs i like), A Hole In The World, Cross Out The Eyes, Paris In Flames (such an awesome song), How Long Is The Night, Win Up, basically every single song touched me in a way WATT failed to. The only songs that moved me on WATT are Steps Acsend, M.Shepard, and This Song Brought to you by a falling bomb. The rest of the songs just didn't rub be the right way, the lyrics didn't touch me.

I agree, screaming like all the time, for no reason does get stale sometimes, like with slipknot. I don't think i ever said it didn't.

Also, i do think yellowcard matured, from the songs i heard (like Underdog) and say Belive from Ocean Avenue, the songs are very different and more mature.

[towhatend]

What's wrong with being ***?

You fucking homophobic piece of shit.

he didn't say anything was wrong with it.

[still_life]

"What's wrong with being ***?

You fucking homophobic piece of shit."

Who's fucking idea was it for this censor? You can say that second line perfectly, and watch this

******

Oh, but g.ay, oh my, we can't say that. That's just too bad.

[towhatend]

yeah i noticed that and que.er as well. I guess Tate can't handle words about sexual orientation.

[hXc_pwnage]

he didn't say anything was wrong with it.
And I quote..

so what your saying, is that you feel this way towards the non-intelligent posters. why is that? i think we need to look deeper. do you have insecure relationship with men. is that why you are prejudice against people of lesser intelligence? because behind that prejudice, i think there is a person. a caring person. and you just gotta tell that person, honey, we're coming out.

I would say he is trying to make that an insult.

[Coronary Parasite]

yes. end.
no. i win.

[Coronary Parasite]

"What's wrong with being ***?

You fucking homophobic piece of shit."

Who's fucking idea was it for this censor? You can say that second line perfectly, and watch this

******

Oh, but g.ay, oh my, we can't say that. That's just too bad.
whoever censored the word g.ay needs to censor the n word too it's just retarted to not.

[Phil507]

I spell kool with a k cause solely for simplicity (the k key is closer to the o and l keys on your keyboard).

Believe me, the C key isn't really that far. Trust me, it'll make you look just that much smarter if you use it. (even my 14-year-old sister doesn't type it out "kool").


I can totally agree with you that old guys singing about being young is pretty lame. But just cause you're thirty doesn't necessarily mean you're mentally thirty. The whole reason behind boxcar racer (I think) was because delonge wanted to go in that path, and hoppus disagreed...because that sorta music doesn't really reflect the kinda people they are. I think the new blink album is a catastrophe...just knowing that this is their first "real" album is a disappointment for me and a few others out there. How can any of you give such praise to a band who has pretty much lied to their fans since day one? But that's my beef with blink.


To me, Box Car Racer just sounded more like a sloppier Blink (it had 2 of the 3 members, and in one song, all three, so it wasn't really much of a "side project"). I think they just wanted to stick a different name on there so if (and when) it bombed commercially, it wouldn't ruin the Blink-182 reputation. If you don't like the new Blink album, I can't argue with you there, your tastes are your own. I don't think you should take the whole "this is our first REAL album" thing so seriously. Everytime a band puts out a record they usually same something along the lines of "we definetly feel this is our best work, we defeintly feel more focused yada yada yada yada." They definetly haven't LIED to us since day one, they just have grown as people (when you're 31, you probably won't feel exactly the same as you did when you were 24).


Also, you sorta contradict yourself. You say a band of 30 year olds shouldn't sing about their first dates. Then you should also agree that a band of 30 year olds who are married and have kids, should not sing about heartbreaks of the past. But this goes back to my theory about society's infatuation with pessimism and negative emotion, sadness...one would rather hear about missing a girl than about being happy with a girl. and, ya. that's all.

Fair enough. I think that lost loves and heartbreaksd of the past are more universal with age than picking some hot girl up in your car for your "first date." And yes, I agree, we as a society (myself included probably) would much rather hear about things such as lost loves, missing friends than being happy.

-Phil

[Coronary Parasite]

I don't think you should take the whole "this is our first REAL album" thing so seriously. Everytime a band puts out a record they usually same something along the lines of "we definetly feel this is our best work, we defeintly feel more focused yada yada yada yada." They definetly haven't LIED to us since day one, they just have grown as people (when you're 31, you probably won't feel exactly the same as you did when you were 24).


the movielife did it with the "has a gambling problem ep" and have since clearly stated that they hate it and the record never should've been made...

[towhatend]

And I quote..



I would say he is trying to make that an insult.

You can quote all you want, but the fact remains the same all he did was ask a question, that isn't saying anything about his feelings on homosexuality.

[still_above_me]

to cleer things up, i'm not a he. i am not homophobic and dr.phil is still my hero.

[towhatend]

Thanks, you rock.

[hXc_pwnage]

I hate Dr. Phil.

[hXc_pwnage]

But...


Oprah rocks my nuts.

[SpeciesismSucks]

no. i win.
what? no? you lose? huh?

oh that's right

<3

[hXc_pwnage]

what? no? you lose? huh?

oh that's right

<3
You are such an anal whore.

What? Yeah? I'm right?

Thought so. :coool:

[SpeciesismSucks]

You are such an anal whore.

What? Yeah? I'm right?

Thought so. :coool:
This just in: TJ is a slutbag

oh wait. that is not new news =)

[hXc_pwnage]

This just in: TJ is a slutbag

oh wait. that is not new news =)
Anal whores can't speak. :santa:

[SpeciesismSucks]

Anal whores can't speak. :santa:
Then I believe you should be quiet also. Do you not recal Saturday night?

[hXc_pwnage]

Then I believe you should be quiet also. Do you not recal Saturday night?
I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T TELL!

[SpeciesismSucks]

I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T TELL!

:sealed:

it just kind of slipped... i couldn't do anything about it...

*runs away*

[Phil507]

the movielife did it with the "has a gambling problem ep" and have since clearly stated that they hate it and the record never should've been made...

Not familar with it, but if they really didn't like it than they're just voicing thier opinion. I don't think Blink will ever stop playing their material from Enema, Dude Ranch and TOYP&J because those records sold really well. They probably are just really proud of this new album.

On another note, I noticed your sig says RIP WLIR. Isn't LIR still on in Long Island? On a different frequency? I used to be able to get it, definetly curious about it.

[richter915]

Ya WLIR is a LI station...they play some good music...I remember them playing "dammit" before the whole enema craze and stuff...good times.

Phil. I totally understand that people definitely grow up...and ya there's a HUGE difference between 24 and 31...but most of their fanbase is what?...13 through 20? maybe? We're still young...many of us do go on our first dates and all. I know it's a cheesy topic and all but I mean...I dunno that's just what I prefer. At least in my eyes, I see blink as today's Green Day...blink and GD both brought punk into the mainstream and gave society a good smack in the face to straighten it out. But I mean, you talk about losing love being a universal topic...I feel that it's a bit unoriginal, and these days, way overdone. Green Day was able to make music that applies to people, specifically teens/young adults...and was non-relationship related. Welcome to Paradise (moving out/independence), Having A Blast ("teenage angst"), and longview (lazy days stuck at home). In my opinion, focusing most if not all your emotions and feelings towards relationship is not the least bit mature. That's why I don't like when bands nowadays "mature"...cause I don't think that's really mature.

wow, that was long. heh.

[Alex Djaferis]

Ya WLIR is a LI station...they play some good music...I remember them playing "dammit" before the whole enema craze and stuff...good times.

Phil. I totally understand that people definitely grow up...and ya there's a HUGE difference between 24 and 31...but most of their fanbase is what?...13 through 20? maybe? We're still young...many of us do go on our first dates and all. I know it's a cheesy topic and all but I mean...I dunno that's just what I prefer. At least in my eyes, I see blink as today's Green Day...blink and GD both brought punk into the mainstream and gave society a good smack in the face to straighten it out. But I mean, you talk about losing love being a universal topic...I feel that it's a bit unoriginal, and these days, way overdone. Green Day was able to make music that applies to people, specifically teens/young adults...and was non-relationship related. Welcome to Paradise (moving out/independence), Having A Blast ("teenage angst"), and longview (lazy days stuck at home). In my opinion, focusing most if not all your emotions and feelings towards relationship is not the least bit mature. That's why I don't like when bands nowadays "mature"...cause I don't think that's really mature.

wow, that was long. heh.

True, green day just rule =) Best band (apart from thrice...lol)

And Green Day held their punk ethics way more then Blink ever could or even wanted too...GD held credibility (of course many elitists would compare them to the likes of GC, but they can suck on it for all i care)
And before anyone gets pissed for making that comment about Blink. Let me say once again, im a blink fan.

[still_above_me]

i like the fact that i make a post, making up a bunch a physco-analysis that dr. phil might say, i am a accused of being a homo-hater.
makes me want to step back and re exam our pc lives.

[Coronary Parasite]

On another note, I noticed your sig says RIP WLIR. Isn't LIR still on in Long Island? On a different frequency? I used to be able to get it, definetly curious about it.
on the east end, 105.5 i think

it's called the box now...and if anyone can get me contact info for christian mcknight, i owe you won

[Coronary Parasite]

what? no? you lose? huh?

oh that's right

<3
what? you lose? that's right!

[Phil507]

on the east end, 105.5 i think

it's called the box now...and if anyone can get me contact info for christian mcknight, i owe you won

So I'm guessing you can't get it in Manhatten?

[Coronary Parasite]

god i wish..then i'd have a chance here in brookly

we're both fucked

[richter915]

I think I get LIR...strong I51and represent!! w00t!

[Coronary Parasite]

oh god i hate you! i miss christian mcknight like mad

and tri state sound god i miss lir