View Full Version : First the TV, then the Newspapers, then the classrooms..now what?
Justin_stacy
03/30/04, 10:29 AM
Liberal talk-radio network set for debut Wensday Morning!
By Jennifer Harper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Conservatives, plug your ears: Liberal talk radio is finally here.
Al Franken and a host of garrulous progressives ease onto the airwaves tomorrow morning on America Left, broadcasting live from 6 a.m. to midnight on weekdays via XM Satellite Radio and three AM radio stations — in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.
Mr. Franken will debut at noon with "The O'Franken Factor," a three-hour daily show airing opposite conservative host Rush Limbaugh, who has 20 million listeners. Mr. Franken once wrote a book titled "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot" and has named his show as a parody of "The O'Reilly Factor," hosted by Bill O'Reilly of Fox News.
Mr. Franken, who has scuffled with conservatives for years, is primed for a fight.
"My first priority is to get sued by a right-wing jerk in order to generate interest in my new show," Mr. Franken said in a statement earlier this year.
The daylong lineup also includes comedian Janeane Garofalo, an outspoken critic of the Iraq war; environmental activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr.; and Alan Colmes, co-host of Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."
XM Radio offers the new shows a built-in potential audience of 3 million.
For a $10 monthly charge, the company offers 120 digital music, talk and entertainment channels for home, car or computer. "America Left" — produced by New York-based Air America Radio — joins an XM stable that already includes talk-radio fare from Fox News, CNN and ABC, among others.
"We're excited to provide a national audience to progressive superstar Al Franken and his spirited cohorts at Air America. Challenging our listeners and giving them the best and broadest choices possible is our daily mission," Hugo Panero, XM's District-based president, said yesterday.
But XM is not necessarily a liberal bastion. They already feature 79 talk-radio hosts of every political stripe — including Fox News' Mr. O'Reilly, ABC's Sean Hannity and independents Matt Drudge, Michael Savage and Laura Ingraham.
Air America has its own political agenda in store, however.
"There is a great underserved market of Americans who want to hear compelling and funny talk voices expressing viewpoints long absent from the radio airwaves," said Mark Walsh, president of Progress Media, the parent company of Air America.
He added, "Air America on XM will go a long way to correcting this imbalance at a particularly opportune time."
That opportune time, of course, is an election year that has become a showcase for political sniping in the news media.
As Hollywood actors-turned-pundits, Mr. Franken and Miss Garofalo have criticized the Bush administration, the war in Iraq and conservative ideology in no uncertain terms.
"I'm interested in doing what I can to affect this election. I'm thinking about what's the best use of my energies. I hope this is it," Mr. Franken told the Associated Press in January when he announced his intention to become a radio personality.
http://www.airamericaradio.com/ <-------- you can "listen" to it here if you don't live in one the liberal strongholds its being aired in....
hXc_pwnage
03/30/04, 12:33 PM
What's so bad about it?
It isn't like there aren't conservative stations out there.
It's just another person spreading their views.
cantnokdahustle
03/30/04, 03:02 PM
how long was fucking Limbaugh the only thing we could hear on the god damned radio, its about fucking time.
jgirv17
03/30/04, 06:25 PM
Yeah....I see no problem with having both liberal and conservative shows on the air. I would say that this would make it fair and balanced, but I don't want to get sued.
hXc_pwnage
03/30/04, 06:59 PM
Haha.
cantnokdahustle
03/30/04, 07:08 PM
^ that's not how you make a point jackass, you just let the thread replies speak for themselves. Don't be so fucking juvenile.
oh and i wish it was more than three AM stations carried him.
jgirv17
03/30/04, 07:10 PM
^ that's not how you make a point jackass, you just let the thread replies speak for themselves. Don't be so fucking juvenile.
oh and i wish it was more than three AM stations carried him.
who was that directed to?
If it was toward me because I didn't get my point across....here: I am a democrat and liberal. I think liberals should have their own radio station. I also think conservatives should, too, since only that would be fair.
cantnokdahustle
03/30/04, 07:29 PM
no it was at the guy who was laughing at the person who started the thread!
If the guy was laughing at your fox news joke then i am sorry, but no that comment was not directed toward you.
BrandNew20
03/30/04, 07:46 PM
no it was at the guy who was laughing at the person who started the thread!
If the guy was laughing at your fox news joke then i am sorry, but no that comment was not directed toward you.
I'm pretty sure he was laughing at the fox news joke...
jgirv17
03/30/04, 09:21 PM
ok, got it.
Justin_stacy
03/30/04, 09:21 PM
how long was fucking Limbaugh the only thing we could hear on the god damned radio,.
ah the good old days..... :stormtroo
hXc_pwnage
03/31/04, 04:28 AM
no it was at the guy who was laughing at the person who started the thread!
If the guy was laughing at your fox news joke then i am sorry, but no that comment was not directed toward you.
I was laughing at girv's comment smart one.
xnotedgex
03/31/04, 09:23 AM
ah the good old days..... :stormtroo
the good old days are when one viewpoint is heard on the radio while the other isnt...so you're suggesting that the voice of your oppenents, when suppressed, is healthy for society? ok
cantnokdahustle
03/31/04, 11:12 AM
I was laughing at girv's comment smart one.
Then I apologize. I am sorry.
Justin_stacy
03/31/04, 03:51 PM
the good old days are when one viewpoint is heard on the radio while the other isnt...so you're suggesting that the voice of your oppenents, when suppressed, is healthy for society? ok
Well I can't tell, either you’re trying to be a prick or you’re just to stupid to see a joke.... I don't know?
And to answer your question, if I thought that suppressing the view of an opponent on the "airwaves" was a good idea, I’d first have to be liberal minded and the way they treated fox news (the first non-liberal news channel on TV) proves that, and second I probably wouldn't have made this thread nor given a link to where a person could hear it, either.....
SwingingMics
03/31/04, 04:09 PM
Good thing no one has XM satellite.
I can still listen to Neil Boortz and Sean Hannity everyday, so I'm good.
The Bled 13
03/31/04, 05:36 PM
Oh god, Hannity that guy is great.
He thinks their is some sort of connection with Terrorism and Liberalism .. fucking genious.
Oh well, even though I probably won't listen, Al Franken is fucking hilarious.
The Bled 13
03/31/04, 05:37 PM
Oh yeah...
I HATE HANNITY.
hXc_pwnage
03/31/04, 05:58 PM
If you hate liberals or not, you can not deny how funny these people are. They are way more down to earth than those Republicans.
SpeciesismSucks
03/31/04, 06:51 PM
Anarchist radio is where it's at. too bad it kinda like... doesn't exsist in Georgia
jgirv17
03/31/04, 07:14 PM
Anarchy is a stupid idea that will never work....I'm liberal, but not idealistic.
SpeciesismSucks
03/31/04, 07:53 PM
Anarchy is a stupid idea that will never work....I'm liberal, but not idealistic.
"If men were angels, no government would be neccessary"
-James Madison
yes, but when idealism becomes reality the world becomes bliss :)
jgirv17
03/31/04, 08:38 PM
when idealism becomes reality, we are no longer living in the real world.
I agree, idealist thought is a great way to look at the world, but it's relying way too much on human nature, which is rather erratic. Look at places in the world like West Africa....these places are pretty much living in anarchy - with little or no power held by the government and rouge armies sprouting out all around - and it is in absolutely terrible condition.
I wish something like anarchy was feasibly possible, but it's not in any time soon.
Justin_stacy
04/01/04, 12:03 AM
They are way more down to earth than those Republicans.
I think you have to be the first person to say that Gerafalo and Franken are "down to earth" individuals.......
hXc_pwnage
04/01/04, 04:40 AM
I think you have to be the first person to say that Gerafalo and Franken are "down to earth" individuals.......
Look at like Nader. He is the perfect example.
He is so money.
xnotedgex
04/01/04, 08:27 AM
Well I can't tell, either you’re trying to be a prick or you’re just to stupid to see a joke.... I don't know?
And to answer your question, if I thought that suppressing the view of an opponent on the "airwaves" was a good idea, I’d first have to be liberal minded and the way they treated fox news (the first non-liberal news channel on TV) proves that, and second I probably wouldn't have made this thread nor given a link to where a person could hear it, either.....
why are you bringing up tv...this thread is about the lack of liberal programs on the radio, is it not?
i guess i just dont get the point of you making this thread then
Justin_stacy
04/01/04, 09:01 AM
why are you bringing up tv...this thread is about the lack of liberal programs on the radio, is it not?
Because it was relevant to the ignorant statement you made above....is it not?
Justin_stacy
04/01/04, 09:05 AM
Look at like Nader. He is the perfect example.
He is so money.
But Nader isn't apart of this radio station, Franken and Gerfafalo(?) are, nor is he supported by those who run it......on top of that his views aren't really what one would call down to earth or supported by the common man......
xnotedgex
04/01/04, 09:05 AM
Because it was relevant to the ignorant statement you made above....is it not?
i dont see how it is relevent at all...are you suggesting that conservatives did not get their views heard on the tv prior to foxnews?
cantnokdahustle
04/01/04, 09:10 AM
Gerfafalo(?)
Oh how I love to Hate you.
Justin_stacy
04/01/04, 09:11 AM
i dont see how it is relevent at all...are you suggesting that conservatives did not get their views heard on the tv prior to foxnews?
Its relevant because you accused me of supporting suppression of the first liberal based radio station, with out basis, when those on your own side did the something when fox, the first non-liberal news station, was founded.... How is trying to suppress something on TV different from trying to suppress something on the Radio?...
Justin_stacy
04/01/04, 09:29 AM
Garofalo
Oh how I love to Hate you
is that better? ;)
cantnokdahustle
04/01/04, 10:49 AM
either way, just took the opportunity. I thought it funny.
hXc_pwnage
04/01/04, 12:51 PM
But Nader isn't apart of this radio station, Franken and Gerfafalo(?) are, nor is he supported by those who run it......on top of that his views aren't really what one would call down to earth or supported by the common man......
I'm just talking about in general. I could care less about the radio station, really.
The Bled 13
04/01/04, 04:57 PM
I don't believe in Anarchy either, that is just ridiculous.
The Bled 13
04/01/04, 04:58 PM
I was just curious Justin_Stacy, who is a GOOD liberal? (Or does on exisit to you?)
And can you name one BAD Conservative?
Justin_stacy
04/02/04, 01:28 PM
I was just curious Justin_Stacy, who is a GOOD liberal? (Or does on exisit to you?)
And can you name one BAD Conservative?
1. Do you mean who is a liberal that does good things? If so, Joe Lieberman, and it might shock you, But I would have contemplated voting for him if he had made clear his stance on the Kyoto Protocol...
2. Ann Coulter....
Good enough?
SpeciesismSucks
04/02/04, 02:15 PM
when idealism becomes reality, we are no longer living in the real world.
I agree, idealist thought is a great way to look at the world, but it's relying way too much on human nature, which is rather erratic. Look at places in the world like West Africa....these places are pretty much living in anarchy - with little or no power held by the government and rouge armies sprouting out all around - and it is in absolutely terrible condition.
I wish something like anarchy was feasibly possible, but it's not in any time soon.
Well I mean, like wasn't the idea of African Americans having the full fledged rights of the constituion basically idealism for a while? I'm not trying to argue that Anarchy in it's true essence could really ever be carried out effectively, but you should check out http://www.christiania.org/ which is like this self-governed type commune up in Denmark. Like it's true that they have a governing body, but their body is like a direct democracy which can be compared to anarchy pretty easily in that everyone gets a say in everything that happens.
And yea, about Africa, that's why I 1. Don't really want to be there, and 2. Hate weapons with a passion.
=)
<3
cantnokdahustle
04/02/04, 02:48 PM
1. Do you mean who is a liberal that does good things? If so, Joe Lieberman, and it might shock you, But I would have contemplated voting for him if he had made clear his stance on the Kyoto Protocol...
2. Ann Coulter....
Good enough?joe lieberman is liberal like george w. bush is jewish.
hXc_pwnage
04/02/04, 06:29 PM
joe lieberman is liberal like george w. bush is jewish.
Hahahahaha.
vikingstrike182
04/02/04, 08:00 PM
joe lieberman is liberal like george w. bush is jewish.
That made me laugh pretty hard for a few minutes, and I would have to fully agree with you.
The Bled 13
04/02/04, 09:19 PM
Well thank God you hate Ann Coulter, that women is nuts.
Oh and I just heard today that those crazy hypocrytical bastards over at PETA (CEO / VP, Maybe?) are using Interfurion which helps slow / cure diabetes (I'm not sure on that either) but it is ANIMAL TESTED. Fuckin hypocrites. I thought that was a good laugh too.
Justin_stacy
04/02/04, 10:23 PM
joe lieberman is liberal like george w. bush is jewish.
so now you mock a man for being a centralist instead of an extremist? What a jerk.. :upset:
Justin_stacy
04/02/04, 10:26 PM
Well thank God you hate Ann Coulter, that women is nuts.
.
but yet you've stuck up for her liberal counterparter(s) in other threads...what does that say about you?
jgirv17
04/03/04, 12:28 AM
Well I mean, like wasn't the idea of African Americans having the full fledged rights of the constituion basically idealism for a while? I'm not trying to argue that Anarchy in it's true essence could really ever be carried out effectively, but you should check out http://www.christiania.org/ which is like this self-governed type commune up in Denmark. Like it's true that they have a governing body, but their body is like a direct democracy which can be compared to anarchy pretty easily in that everyone gets a say in everything that happens.
And yea, about Africa, that's why I 1. Don't really want to be there, and 2. Hate weapons with a passion.
=)
<3
Yeah....I think we both realize that anarchy, while idealistic and nice to think about, is impossible in the world we live in. Possibly, in a few years, it may work....but for now, it doesn't look plausible.
hXc_pwnage
04/03/04, 06:50 AM
Yeah....I think we both realize that anarchy, while idealistic and nice to think about, is impossible in the world we live in. Possibly, in a few years, it may work....but for now, it doesn't look plausible.
Anyone who thinks it can happen in the whole world really needs to look at themselves. Even I know it can't happen in the whole world. It can only happen in little towns, and that's about it.
jgirv17
04/03/04, 02:55 PM
^^ Yeah....I definitely didn't mean to write "a few years"....change years to centuries...and I still doubt it will ever be possible since human nature won't allow it.
open mind
04/03/04, 10:50 PM
so now you mock a man for being a centralist instead of an extremist? What a jerk.. :upset:
the question was what liberal do you like and you picked someone who isn't really a liberal.
Justin_stacy
04/03/04, 11:02 PM
the question was what liberal do you like and you picked someone who isn't really a liberal.
No, actually I did pick a liberal, just not one who's as far to the left as you guys…..and i think its pathetic for you to think that any liberal who doesn't share your same exact views, isn't a liberal at all....
vikingstrike182
04/04/04, 05:39 AM
Howard Dean is pretty far over there.
The Bled 13
04/04/04, 08:57 AM
Ahh It appears that Mr or Mrs. Justin_Stacy likes a good competition, is that what everything appears to be to you? You like to be competitive. Yes, I have stuck up for liberal nutcases before, and I do regret it. Do I continue to do so? Nope, not at all. Does that mean I will stick up for some person who links liberalism with terrorism such as Coulter and Hannity? Nope, not at all. You don't hear any Liberals saying such nonsense as they do, do you? Now granted that in some cases it is going to be different, but we all know who have the biggest mouths, and who never shut them. There are just as many insane conservatives on the right as their are on the left. You can't realize that, so stop pretending you are moderate or "in the middle."
The Bled 13
04/04/04, 08:58 AM
Because if you could realize that, you wouldn't be sending tons of slanted bull shit and constantly praise the right side.
My favorite attribute of yours would be this - "I won't read that! It's biased! BUT, I'll send you biased crap and you'll believe it because you are inferior! MWAHAHA!"
Maybe that was a tad exageratted.
open mind
04/04/04, 02:24 PM
No, actually I did pick a liberal, just not one who's as far to the left as you guys…..and i think its pathetic for you to think that any liberal who doesn't share your same exact views, isn't a liberal at all....
you said so yourself he's a centrist.
Justin_stacy
04/05/04, 11:19 PM
Ahh It appears that Mr or Mrs. Justin_Stacy likes a good competition
Isn't the whole point of posting here to discuss opposing views? I mean its not like anyone who is willing to take the time to post on a "political" board is going to be easily swayed away from their original views....
. Yes, I have stuck up for liberal nutcases before, and I do regret it. Do I continue to do so? Nope, not at all.
I'm glad to see you've grown....in what about a month?
. Does that mean I will stick up for some person who links liberalism with terrorism such as Coulter and Hannity?
But what about the persons who link the terrorist acts with conservativism? It is not a one way street and both extremes need to be condemed...
. Nope, not at all. You don't hear any Liberals saying such nonsense as they do, do you? ?
Does Ted Rall ring a bell?
. There are just as many insane conservatives on the right as their are on the left. You can't realize that.
I understand this, but unlike one of us here, i've never condoned the actions of those you consider "insane".....
Justin_stacy
04/05/04, 11:29 PM
you said so yourself he's a centrist.
exactly, hes a moderate democrat....isn't it nice to know that there are still some on the left who can see the evil in having extreme views.... :spiny:
also the question was,I was just curious who is a GOOD liberal? It said nothing to the extent of where my choice had to fall on the political line, just that he (she) had to be a liberal....
open mind
04/06/04, 04:35 AM
my point is he's really not liberal,he's a democrat but not a liberal.
Love As Arson
04/06/04, 09:46 AM
Conservatives dominate radio so it isn't as if they are going to be shut down.
cantnokdahustle
04/06/04, 11:28 AM
Joe liberman is also a liberal, an obvious one at that.
-supports abortion
-supports affirmative action
-supports universal health care for kids
-wants NATO to assume control in Iraq
-raise taxes on the rich
-opposed privatization of social security
You forgot:
wants to censor everything under the fucking sky.
oh,shit , that would make him pretty fucking conservative.
cantnokdahustle
04/06/04, 03:41 PM
hence him being a fascist conservative asshole.
Justin_stacy
04/06/04, 11:17 PM
hence him being a fascist conservative asshole.
well this is great, now we've got a fascist conservative asshole running against a cowardly liberal socialist....with a communist, no doubt, bring up the rear.... :smilies27
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