Batman Begins

[Jason Tate]

I know there are some batman fans here, so .. this is for you..

:o

http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/

[cantnokdahustle]

http://forum.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=37090
and this is for you!

[boysdontcry]

haha yeah i was gonna say that but i just decided to leave it be.

[cantnokdahustle]

haha yeah i was gonna say that but i just decided to leave it be.
wait.. i didnt do it to be an ass!

[boysdontcry]

oh no i didn't say you were being an ass.

[jgirv17]

1) Christian Bale is Batman

2) Christian Bale was American Psycho

Winning Combination.

[SonnyPunk]

Im not too excited about this...although SpiderMan 2 looks hot.

[vikingstrike182]

That doesnt look like a very good Batmobile. It looks like the Batmobile on steroids.

[Jason Tate]

:spidey: :batman:

[Basketcase]

did anyone happen to catch the mini trailer during the superbowl yesterday? all i can is HOLY FUCKING SHIT!! each new trailer leading up to this film looks really awesome.

[Chemical Love]

i saw it. i didnt think it looked that great. i dont know why morgan freeman was in there all of a sudden in that stupid fucking truck thing. thats what killed the whole trailer for me.

[MrChainsaw389]

i saw it. i didnt think it looked that great. i dont know why morgan freeman was in there all of a sudden in that stupid fucking truck thing. thats what killed the whole trailer for me.

Yeah, it'll probably be pretty good, but I'm not dying of anticipation

[EnderDove]

Considering a good Batman movie hasnt been made since Batman Returns...im looking forward to this.

[[Brendan]]

I hope it ends up being a great movie. At least they've hired a good actor to plaqy Batman, I think Cristian Bale will do a good job.

[FalloutGuy]

Change this to the "Batman Begins is gonna own all other movies this year except Star Wars"

but seriously Batman is gonna be great again. Not too sure about the new batmobile though.

[poppa Q]

Yeah, it'll probably be pretty good, but I'm not dying of anticipation

Agreed.

[Throwback]

I can't wait. I'm a huge Batman junkie, so this is going to be sweet.

[FrancesTheMute]

i just know it can't be any worse than the previous 2 shitfest's i've had to sit through. batman forever wasnt THAT horrible, but batman and robin pissed me off, even when i was 9...

the only thing right now that pisses me off about this movie is the batmobile, they should've just made it like on the first two movies.

[Drew Beringer]

I am more excited for "War Of The Worlds". With Speilberg directing, it is almost guaranteed to be a great movie.

[Drew Beringer]

But "Batman Begins" is my third most anticipated movie to see this summer behind WOTW and Star Wars.

[Basketcase]

meh...the last 2 Star Wars films were lame. i'm still gonna see Episode 3, but i don't expect it to be anything great. i'm just interested to see Anakin's transformation into Vader and the slaughtering of the Jedis.

[drudo182]

most anticipated

- charlie and the chocolate factory
- goblet of fire
- batman begins
- war of the worlds
- sw3

im very pumped for BB though and ScareCrow is my favorite villian. I hope he is in it for a good amount of time because he isnt the main villian. I think they said he could be back in the sequels.

-drew-

[forswornpromise]

i'm not too thoughtful to make a list, but i do really wanna see constantine....really really badly.

[MrChainsaw389]

I heard Goblet of Fire is a two parter, does anyone know if that's true.

[Drew Beringer]

I heard Goblet of Fire is a two parter, does anyone know if that's true.

hmmm, I haven't heard anything about that, but it would be sweet if they do that since that book is so long and this way they can incorporate more from the book into the movie.

[drudo182]

its not a two parter. the director felt he good trim enough to keep it all in one film.

-drew-

[Witchbaby]

My friend LOVES batman, he's e-mailed me all the trailers for the movie... I bet he's counting down the days. Plus, Christian Bale is in it, NEWSIES anyone?

[[Brendan]]

its not a two parter. the director felt he good trim enough to keep it all in one film.

-drew-
If it does well they will make a sequel obviously.

Also does anyone know why they only made 1 series (season) of the cartoon Batman of the Future. I really liked that.

[Basketcase]

']Also does anyone know why they only made 1 series (season) of the cartoon Batman of the Future. I really liked that.
yeah. Batman Beyond was awesome.

[bostonHxC]

I saw a picture of the batmobile for the new movie. not good. not good at all

[Signals Corrupted]

i'm not too thoughtful to make a list, but i do really wanna see constantine....really really badly.


keanu is a douche

[hate to me]

i think the original 60's (i think) batman is the best

got it on video love it !

[drudo182]

I saw a picture of the batmobile for the new movie. not good. not good at all

yeah right.

a new screening of the film said the chases in BB rival Matrix Reloaded and French Connection.

They also said ScareCrow was really creepy. Im pumped.

-drew-

[FrancesTheMute]

looking at the new batmobile again, it isn't as bad as i initially thought *you still arent going to top the first one*

[hobotodd311]

I am more excited for "War Of The Worlds". With Speilberg directing, it is almost guaranteed to be a great movie.
same here, i can't wait to see that one.

[LoyalSubject]

The deal with the batmobile is that it's not suppossed to look like a badass machine. You have to remember that Bruce Wayne is not yet the biggest crime fighter ever and he hasn't amassed his gigantic fortune. I'm really excited, I think Batman has one of the greatest Origin stories in ll comics.

[[Brendan]]

The deal with the batmobile is that it's not suppossed to look like a badass machine. You have to remember that Bruce Wayne is not yet the biggest crime fighter ever and he hasn't amassed his gigantic fortune. I'm really excited, I think Batman has one of the greatest Origin stories in ll comics.
Yeah I was just about to say that, it's supposed to look like he built it himself from spare parts.

[LoyalSubject]

']Yeah I was just about to say that, it's supposed to look like he built it himself from spare parts.
Actually it's a prototype that Wayne Enterprises (it was one of their first projects) created for the military but it was rejected. So it's technically a Tactical Assault Vehicle, not a hunk of junk.

[The Gray Ghost]

Speaking of Batman, has anyone picked up the DVD sets of the amazing animated series? Seriously, they've brought back so many great memories. In my opinion, it's the greatest way to view the Dark Knight.

[Basketcase]

Actually it's a prototype that Wayne Enterprises (it was one of their first projects) created for the military but it was rejected. So it's technically a Tactical Assault Vehicle, not a hunk of junk.
the more "sporty, sleaker" Batmobile will come in sequels. first year Batman had the prototype Batmobile called The Tumbler.

[FrancesTheMute]

can someone post a link to download the 10 minute preview that was on smallville last night? i'm trying to get it from torrentspy but it keeps rejecting me...

[Yes Im Chad]

I dont know where it is. Cant wait cus bale is badass

[ShoeSh1ne]

it keeps rejecting me...

Story of your life.

[AShannon04]

Story of your life.

hahah, oh snap

[Basketcase]

Batman Begins is gonna be fucking badass!

[FrancesTheMute]

Batman Begins is gonna be fucking badass!
i just got the preview, and yes, it definitely will...

[exthuse]

Watched the H.264 QT7 preview and I sex wee'd in my pants.

[FrancesTheMute]

Watched the H.264 QT7 preview and I sex wee'd in my pants.
i was hoping that i wasn't the only one.

[bleed me bleu]

Whos the better Batman?

Val Kilmer

or

Christian Bale

[Trainsaw]

wtf, Michael Keaton, by far.

[YearsGoneBy]

wtf, Michael Keaton, by far.
word

[FrancesTheMute]

wtf, Michael Keaton, by far.
true, but bale might win


i can already tell bale is better than kilmer, so i pick bale.

[Spooky]

i liked kilmer actually... but i like him in general. You can't really ask that question till the movie comes out at least. And I agree, keaton was probably the best.

[FrancesTheMute]

i liked kilmer actually... but i like him in general. You can't really ask that question till the movie comes out at least. And I agree, keaton was probably the best.
i do like kilmer, but keaton was better as batman.

[Trainsaw]

I guess its a given, Clooney is the worst?

[The Gray Ghost]

Adam West, I don't even know if I'm joking.

[FrancesTheMute]

I guess its a given, Clooney is the worst?
of course.

[aolsux]

I guess its a given, Clooney is the worst?
eh, i think it would of been cool if clooney was still batman but he got the shittiest movie of all the batmen

[The Gray Ghost]

Playing Batman isn't the challenge, it's playing Bruce Wayne that's the real challenge.

[Spooky]

eh, i think it would of been cool if clooney was still batman but he got the shittiest movie of all the batmen

That's kinda true. He easily got the worst of the movies... batgirl and the villians were kinda stupid. but.... i dont think he's a really good choise for batman anyway. I don't think he's dark enough.

[FalloutGuy]

I have faith that Bale is gonna be the best.

[Throwback]

I think Bale is going to kick lots of ass.

[nobodysmonkey]

Bale is going to be awesome. I can't wait to see this one.

[drudo182]

Bale will be the best.

I got my midnight show tickets. It's going to be amazing. IMAX too....

[YearsGoneBy]

keaton>kilmer>bale>west>clooney

[CircaEnder]

Michael Keaton IS mother fucking batman.

[Basketcase]

Keaton was in the best Batman films, but i thought Kilmer was awesome. he had Bruce/Bats nailed down. after watching the trailer and clips from Batman Begins though, i gotta say that Christian Bale will be the BEST Batman hands down. Bale owns!

[marrost]

Adam Fucking West.

[AShannon04]

Bale

[still_life]

Batman Forever has some of the worst dialogue ever. Kilmer loses just for that. Batman & Robin is the worst movie period. Michael Keaton did a great job, and the first two movies are still great to watch. Bale will probably be good, but I'm not going to put him as the best Batman when he's only done one movie and I haven't even seen it yet.

[marrost]

BalePlease teach me to see the future.

[AShannon04]

Please teach me to see the future.

I just said that because I've never been a huge Batman fan, but I'm actually really excited to see this one, unlike the last few, which haven't been that good

[marrost]

I just said that because I've never been a huge Batman fan, but I'm actually really excited to see this one, unlike the last few, which haven't been that good
Yea but the original series/movie and the first two with Keaton are fucking quality. Check them out.

[AShannon04]

Yea but the original series/movie and the first two with Keaton are fucking quality. Check them out.

I've seen them. All I'm saying is that the new one looks to be quite different, in my opinion, from all of the others, which I think is a good thing. I loved the original TV series, but I don't think it's at all comparable to the movies.

[theESCO]

Yea...I'm so hyped for Batman. Christian Bale fuckin owns. American Psycho was so good.

[YearsGoneBy]

batman fucking returns is on...i love this one, so dark and creepy

[SK_mo]

i do like kilmer, but keaton was better as batman.
The general consensus of me and my friends has always been that Keaton was a better Bruce but Kilmer played a better Batman.

[YearsGoneBy]

The general consensus of me and my friends has always been that Keaton was a better Bruce but Kilmer played a better Batman.
well said

[radiofriendly]

when i really think about it, i don't remember any michael keaton in the first two. just the villain's and the amazing direction. i'm hesitant to say, but i think keaton was good by association. he never brought down the movie. he was just surrounded by such a dynamic presence with burton, nicholson, devito, etc. it was hard to really enjoy him outside of the batsuit, as much as the other characters.

i always thought jim carrey and tommy lee jones were awesome villains, and i enjoyed joel shumacher's flamboyant direction, and i thought val kilmer fit the mold really well. batman forever was probably the most enjoyable for me. I even liked chris o'donnell.

forgive me for saying, but i thought george clooney played the best bruce wayne. okay maybe not the best, so much as a really good one. something about his demeanor really nailed the role. he's certainly not a bad actor. the movie however, was a complete disaster on all counts. i would have been interested to see clooney in a batman that was better written better.

im stoked for the new one. bale owns in newsies. er...american psycho. my only concern is that bale, keaton, clooney or kilmer could make that new batmobile look cool

[last light]

this new batman is supposed to be one of the better movies of the year. supposedly everything is spot on, acting, story etc. im excited to see this.

[theESCO]

I know there's another thread somewhere. But now that it's out, it deserves a new one.

So I bit the bullet and went to hang out with all the crazies at the midnight showing, and sat in line for two hours.. All I have to say is thank you Christopher Nolan. You fuckin' saved Batman. I'd like to think that somewhere Joel Schumacher is kicking his own ass. This, I think, will be by far the best movie of the year. Everyone did and amazing job, and Christian Bale is deff. the best Batman to date.

I can't fucking wait for the next one.

[The Big Timer]

I'm going to see it in about an hour and a half, I'll definitely post my thoughts when I get back. However, I can't believe Katie Holmes is in it....she shouldn't be anywhere near this film.

[theESCO]

However, I can't believe Katie Holmes is in it....she shouldn't be anywhere near this film.

She actually wasn't that bad. Didn't take anything away from the movie as a whole at all.

[The Big Timer]

Ok, I have faith, I'm leavin soon and will be back later with my thoughts.

[nobodysmonkey]

I'm going to see this tonight, and I can't wait.
Seriously, Christian Fucking Bale, how could this not be good?

[FalloutGuy]

I saw it at midnight last night as well. No doubt in my mind that the Christian Bale is the best Batman as of right now. Oh man I was drooling on the new Batmobile...just listening to it when he shifting gears... :love: Katie Holmes was actually pretty good in the movie. I can't wait to see how Nolan will use the next villain for the sequel and who he will pick to play him will be interesting. Warners Brothers thank you...thank you for letting this happen.

[Trainsaw]

i'm gonna go see this, but Keaton owns all

[Chemical Love]

I cant wait to see it.

[The Big Timer]

Ok, Batman Begins is definitely unreal. Don't get me wrong I grew up in the 80's and was in love with Keaton as Batman but Bale is the guy who will save batman. go see it.

[poppa Q]

This movie was fucking incredible, absolutely phenomenal. Bale nailed the part, and it was so well written. I agree, this really is the movie of the year.

Batman > Star Wars

[Spooky]

I didn't really like Katie Holmes in it... i dunno, she felt out of place. But the movie still owned. Are they gonna make more?... well obviously they'll make more.. but i mean will Nolan and Bale make more? I guess maybe if the money's good enough.

[The Big Timer]

I didn't really like Katie Holmes in it... i dunno, she felt out of place. But the movie still owned. Are they gonna make more?... well obviously they'll make more.. but i mean will Nolan and Bale make more? I guess maybe if the money's good enough.

Bale signed on for 3 Batman movies, so he has 2 more to do under contract. As for Nolan, he is unofficially slated to make the next one.

[drudo182]

Yeah, I almost exploded (in my pants) about seventeen times it was so good.

My only beef was the editing for the fighting sequences was just plain bad. It was shot far too close and edited sloppily.

Plus, its such a dark film, it doesn't help those two issues at all.

4.5 / 5

[WakingTheMisery]

<3

[colorlesscliche]

Wow, this movie was amazing. However, nobody has commented on Scarecrow. When I heard that the villian was Scarecrow, I thought it would be weak, but hot damn was that incredible. As for Alfred, I was just thinking in my head everytime they saw each other: "Hello Austin!" As for Holmes: "Nipples!" :love:


The end was spectacular as well.

[mickmadethelist]

This movie was so good I can only make up a word to describe it...Translicallant. Best Batman, Best superhero movie, one of the best of the year, in my top 5 ever.

[WakingTheMisery]

Wow, this movie was amazing. However, nobody has commented on Scarecrow. When I heard that the villian was Scarecrow, I thought it would be weak, but hot damn was that incredible. As for Alfred, I was just thinking in my head everytime they saw each other: "Hello Austin!" As for Holmes: "Nipples!" :love:


The end was spectacular as well.
i made a thread in the general forum about him. i didn't have the same opinion as you though...

[Basketcase]

Bale is a fucking stud! i'm gonna go see this movie again tomorrow :D

[br0kensound]

Batman was so freakin good!!!!

[Trainsaw]

i think tomorrow is my day to see it

[YearsGoneBy]

i think tomorrow is my day to see it
bring napkins to clean up your load when you cream yourself

[drudo182]

bring napkins to clean up your load when you cream yourself

"And while this may sound sick, I almost exploded (in my pants) about sixty times during the course of this film just due to sheer excitement."

- review stew.com

[angryandconfusd]

Great movie, it sure helped redeem the ones of the 90's. Im not sure if I liked it better than the first one, this one is awesome overall, but come on, Jack fucking Nickolson.

[ajackwithoneeye]

It was a good movie, I was pleasantly suprised to see Holmes didn't completely suck. The only complaints I have with the movie is technical stuff. Like, that Batmobile had to weigh at least 10 tons, therefor it would not be able to drive on rooftops. And that whole part where Holmes gets poisoned, one minute she's unconscious and the next she's awake, and why wouldn't Batman be freaking her out if everything else did? Other than that it was good. At first I was kind of like what the hell? with that whole Scarecrow thing. But then it made sense at the end. Yes yes, very good movie.

[yeknom]

i loved it too, there were a few logical inconsistencies but overall the best batman....they could have laid off the comic relief at times too though

[Spooky]

I thought it'd make more money than it did. It didn't do bad by any means... 46.9 million for the weekend, 71 million for the wed-sun period.. but i thought it'd be a little higher. Like 60 million for the weekend. oh well.

[cantnokdahustle]

i want so much for the Joker to be played by Tim Roth. Holy Shit this film was fantastic.

[marrost]

i want so much for the Joker to be played by Tim Roth. Holy Shit this film was fantastic.
Wow, I think Roth would do a good job as the Joker. The movie was fucking awesome. The thing that really put it on the next level was that Batman really scared the shit out of everybody.

[drudo182]

It was a good movie, I was pleasantly suprised to see Holmes didn't completely suck. The only complaints I have with the movie is technical stuff. Like, that Batmobile had to weigh at least 10 tons, therefor it would not be able to drive on rooftops.

Actually....that is explained due to the fact that the batmobile had this screen that showed the buildings around where he currently was. If you noticed, the it even shows the support of the buildings and so on.

Not that could or couldn't hold the actual car, but it does explain how it worked.

[Andy]

Sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex

God, I loved this film. Best action film Ive seen in years and years.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

...a freakin genius. I just got done watching Memento. Seriously, if you have not seen this yet go do it now. Everything he has done since Insomnia has been nothing short of amazing.

Also, has it been posted on here that the Batman Begins sequel is going to be titled The Dark Knight? I can't wait to see who they cast as Harvey Dent.

[FondestMemory]

batman begins has been his only movie since insomnia until the one coming out shortly.

and even insomnia wasn't bad. i was hoping it'd be much better, but rewatching it now it isn't too bad.

memento and following are great though.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

batman begins has been his only movie since insomnia until the one coming out shortly.

and even insomnia wasn't bad. i was hoping it'd be much better, but rewatching it now it isn't too bad.

memento and following are great though.
oops, I meant since Memento, not Insomnia. I loved all three. I still need to see Following.

His new movie looks really good as well.

[buysoap]

was harvey dent ever mentioned as a character for The Dark Knight? i know he was the prominent DA before he became Two Face, but you would have thought he'd be at least mentioned in the background somewhere in Batman Begins.

they should do more with Jeph Loeb's The Long Halloween for TDK. that book was amazing. if they hadn't ended the stuff with carmine falcone in the first movie, it would be a great sequel.

[FondestMemory]

was harvey dent ever mentioned as a character for The Dark Knight? i know he was the prominent DA before he became Two Face, but you would have thought he'd be at least mentioned in the background somewhere in Batman Begins.

they should do more with Jeph Loeb's The Long Halloween for TDK. that book was amazing. if they hadn't ended the stuff with carmine falcone in the first movie, it would be a great sequel.

yeah, dent's been mentioned as a character. not as two face right away, probably dent for a movie then two face by the third one.

[ActorInThisPlay]

I enjoyed Insomnia...Robin Williams plays a good crazy guy.

[FondestMemory]

I enjoyed Insomnia...Robin Williams plays a good crazy guy.

then i'm assuming you've seen one hour photo? if not, and you like crazy robin williams, you should.

[ActorInThisPlay]

then i'm assuming you've seen one hour photo? if not, and you like crazy robin williams, you should.
I actually have not...thanx for the rec. I will check it out.

[DeadCityScars]

I think they were tossing around Ryan Phillipe (Crash, the one movie with Sarah Michelle Gellar) as Harvey Dent.

[City Lights.]

all i've heard about the batman begins sequel is that heath ledger has signed on play the joker. which may or may not go well. that said there is no way in hell that he'll play a better joker than jack nicholson.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

all i've heard about the batman begins sequel is that heath ledger has signed on play the joker. which may or may not go well. that said there is no way in hell that he'll play a better joker than jack nicholson.
Nobody would ever play a better Joker than Jack. Even though Heath Ledger seems like a really odd casting move for Joker, Nolan has always done a great job with casting.

[ActorInThisPlay]

all i've heard about the batman begins sequel is that heath ledger has signed on play the joker. which may or may not go well. that said there is no way in hell that he'll play a better joker than jack nicholson.
and you would know this how?

[City Lights.]

and you would know this how?

because i have no life and a memory that is infamous for remembering akaward and unimportant facts. i saw some blurb about it on cnn and then checked it out on imdb.

[City Lights.]

Nobody would ever play a better Joker than Jack. Even though Heath Ledger seems like a really odd casting move for Joker, Nolan has always done a great job with casting.

ledger is sort of out of the ordinary but he's a fairly competent character actor. i'm not a huge fan but he was pretty good in the Lords of Dogtown. still though it will be interesting to see if he can fill the role.

[buysoap]

because i have no life and a memory that is infamous for remembering akaward and unimportant facts. i saw some blurb about it on cnn and then checked it out on imdb.

i think he was more referring to the fact that you say no one can beat jack. no offense, but dont judge heath ledgers performance before he gives it. jack nicholson is a great actor, yes, and his joker was wonderful, but the new batmans are reinventions of the series on par with frank millers reinvention of the batman franchise and since we dont know anything yet, one day you might feel foolish saying no one can beat jack. i mean, i always thought the scarecrow was a crappy character, and when batman begins came out, i quickly bit my tounge.

[drudo182]

Insomnia was great. Some of the cinematography was amazing.

Following is really good as well as Memento and BB.

I think Memento is my fav, followed by BB.

Can't wait for The Dark Knight.

[City Lights.]

i think he was more referring to the fact that you say no one can beat jack. no offense, but dont judge heath ledgers performance before he gives it. jack nicholson is a great actor, yes, and his joker was wonderful, but the new batmans are reinventions of the series on par with frank millers reinvention of the batman franchise and since we dont know anything yet, one day you might feel foolish saying no one can beat jack. i mean, i always thought the scarecrow was a crappy character, and when batman begins came out, i quickly bit my tounge.

you make a fair argument. i guess i'm just a stickler for jack's joker. but i agree i may have spoken too soon and will be the first to admit to my mistake should it be the case. to be honest i began biting my tounge shortly after making the comment. i'm curious to see how ledger will approach the character and whether or not he'll be able to re-invent the character in a way that will really make me bite my tongue. he surprised me somewhat in lords of dogtown so it will be interesting to see what he does with this.

[theESCO]

On a side note, The Prestige looks fucking awesome..

[sweetforever]

I'm interested as well as to how Heath will fit into the role of Joker. But we'll see. Oh and the Prestige looks reallly good.

[ActorInThisPlay]

because i have no life and a memory that is infamous for remembering akaward and unimportant facts. i saw some blurb about it on cnn and then checked it out on imdb.
I didn't think there would be another Batman as good as Michael Keaton but I thought Christian Bale was amazing.

[Bovasaur]

i always thought Liev Schreiber would make the perfect Harvey Dent

[Robb]

Nobody would ever play a better Joker than Jack. Even though Heath Ledger seems like a really odd casting move for Joker, Nolan has always done a great job with casting.

I've said it before... Nicholson was a HORRIBLE Joker. He wasn't playing the Joker, he was simply playing Jack Nicholson overacting in face paint.

[FondestMemory]

I've said it before... Nicholson was a HORRIBLE Joker. He wasn't playing the Joker, he was simply playing Jack Nicholson overacting in face paint.

i've always said the same thing.

jim carrey played a better joker. even though he was supposed to be playing the riddler.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

i've always said the same thing.

jim carrey played a better joker. even though he was supposed to be playing the riddler.
:shake:

[FOBcareemo]

I didn't think there would be another Batman as good as Michael Keaton but I thought Christian Bale was amazing.


christian bale was born to play Batman

[radiofriendly]

jack's joker was overrated. that movie was so close to being incredible. everybody's so busy worshipping Tim Burton and his ideas, nobody realized that this movie never really lived up to any of it's praise. that franchise needed a facelift. im excited for this new joker. i don't want to even be reminded of jack nicholson when i watch it.

[radiofriendly]

i've always said the same thing.

jim carrey played a better joker. even though he was supposed to be playing the riddler.

am i going to get killed for saying that of the older series, batman forever was the most entertaining. returns was certainly imaginative, but i had fun watching batman forever.

[irthesteve]

memento is my favorite movie

[FondestMemory]

jack's joker was overrated. that movie was so close to being incredible. everybody's so busy worshipping Tim Burton and his ideas, nobody realized that this movie never really lived up to any of it's praise. that franchise needed a facelift. im excited for this new joker. i don't want to even be reminded of jack nicholson when i watch it.

tim burton's batman is overrated as a whole, not just nicholson's performance.

yeah, it was a good movie at the time. it was an entertaining story about a vigilante who fought crime dressed in a costume.

however, as a batman movie, and as a comic book movie, it was total shit.

[Jack123]

Batman in full gear with utility belt, Jack with pistol, extra clips, knife, bullet proof vest and some other gadgets or two.

My vote: Bauer

[marrost]

They're both pussies.

[Kif]

Jack wouldn't need that extra shit. He could kill Batman with his gun, and then he'd blow up the Batcave and fuck Batgirl.

[ren989]

No one can touch Jack Bauer. Come on now lets be serious.

[thejetstolehome]

batman > all superheroes ever.

i don't care for 24.

[zizou1790]

batman isnt hard at all hes just rich so he can buy badass shit

anyone here could be batman if they had enough money to shop at sharper image

[matt_rawlings]

Batman is essentially a rich f.agg.ot with alot of money and a beastiality complex

[unwritten]

No contest: Chuck Norris.

[matt_rawlings]

No contest: Chuck Norris.

Dr Cox ftw

[Greg]

Bruce Wayne trained for years. he's not just some normal guy.

i dunno

this is a tough one.

[kshtoinks12]

Little known fact, Jack's middle name is "Fuckin'"
Jack Fuckin' Bauer ftw

[Broken Parachute]

Jack Bauer = overrated

[Blake Solomon]

batman would win... easily. He is in the fucking justice league. or at least, he was.

[Broken Parachute]

Little known fact, Jack's middle name is "Fuckin'"
Jack Fuckin' Bauer ftw
Little known fact: ftw is retarded

:)

[gilatron5000]

Batman, EASILY.

I'm sorry, but if Batman can take out Superman(on a regular basis, no less!), and Jack Bauer can't even take out two chinese guys, it's no effing contest.

[buysoap]

this is a question? honestly people. batman.

[boysdontcry17]

stephen colbert

[kg00d]

Jack Bauer > life

[xbrokendownx]

Jack Bauer = overrated







i now can never take anything you say seriously ever again...

[crit]

jack bauer.

[Zeran]

batman > all superheroes ever.

i don't care for 24.

agreed

[a speedo model]

i don't know

[Freud]

bauer

[Carlo Marx]

what are you, retarded? batman wins this fight before it even starts.

[Timberwolf187]

Darren Aronofsky (director of pi,requiem for a dream and the fountain) talks about what his version of batman would of been like.

Daniel, Melbourne: What was your take on Batman going to be like? Were you going in the direction Chris Nolan went, or would you have retained some of the dark fantasy feel that Tim Burton brought to the character? What villain(s)would have been there to battle Batman, and would you have retold the origin story, or pulled a Singer and made your film a continuation of the past series?

Darren: I was never planning to direct Year One. I was more interested in writing a screenplay with Frank Miller on Batman. My pitch was always very realistic. I wasn't interested in fantasy, I was interested in the psychology of a real man dressing in a disguise to pay out real vengeance. The batmobile was a souped up lincoln continental with a bus engine. It was technical and rusty and extremely violent. They would have never let us have violence.

[reductiondesign]

That would have been awesome.

[IAPAI]

it sounds cool, but it's not like I was let down with Nolan's version either.

[reductiondesign]

it sounds cool, but it's not like I was let down with Nolan's version either.

This is true; that man has yet to disappoint me, and he's covered several genres.

[IAmNietzche]

Nolan is a thousand times the director Aronofsky is.

[matt_rawlings]

it sounds cool, but it's not like I was let down with Nolan's version either.

Fact

Nolan is a thousand times the director Aronofsky is.

Groundbreaking false. I don't think you can remotely compare them due to the fact that they have both innovated so much in the way of new cinematic forms and techniques, not to mention they are both adept writters as well.

[IAmNietzche]

Fact



Groundbreaking false. I don't think you can remotely compare them due to the fact that they have both innovated so much in the way of new cinematic forms and techniques, not to mention they are both adept writters as well.
You just said you can't compare them and then gave two similairities... you realize that right?

[Smithers]

Fact



Groundbreaking false. I don't think you can remotely compare them due to the fact that they have both innovated so much in the way of new cinematic forms and techniques, not to mention they are both adept writters as well.

IMO they're the two best writer/directors in the business right now. if you are to compare them, i'd say nolan is the better writer and aronofsky is the better director.

[IAmNietzche]

IMO they're the two best writer/directors in the business right now. if you are to compare them, i'd say nolan is the better writer and aronofsky is the better director.
Werner Herzog
Wong Kar-Wai
David Lynch
Chan Wook Park


Off the top of my head those are better writer/directors than either Nolan or Aronofsky (there are a ton more). But I guess it's your opinion.

[matt_rawlings]

You just said you can't compare them and then gave two similairities... you realize that right?

Yes, but me stating those similarities is like saying a 60 foot tree and a small iron cage are similar because birds live in them both.

It is a very rough generalisation

Would you say Steven Spielberg was comparable to David Schwimer? They both do a bit of directing and are jewish?!

[IAmNietzche]

Yes, but me stating those similarities is like saying a 60 foot tree and a small iron cage are similar because birds live in them both.

It is a very rough generalisation

Would you say Steven Spielberg was comparable to David Schwimer? They both do a bit of directing and are jewish?!
They are both young writer/directors with genre defying ideas and a similar fan base. They are ripe for comparison. Aronofsky is popular because Requiem and Pi are the films kids name drop when they want to appear to have edgy taste in movies.

[matt_rawlings]

They are both young writer/directors with genre defying ideas and a similar fan base. They are ripe for comparison. Aronofsky is popular because Requiem and Pi are the films kids name drop when they want to appear to have edgy taste in movies.


Well, your name dropping of directors seems to show you have 'an edgy taste in movies'.



Werner Herzog

(Grizzly Man = Fantastic, Invincible = Average, the rest of his films that I myself have seen = Unimpressive)

Wong Kar-Wai

(A heavy influence on Aronofski in some off kilter aspects, I realy want to see My Blueberry Nights)

David Lynch

(Can't fault you there either)

Chan Wook Park

(Is this the director of Oldboy? I can't be fucked looking it up, but I was supposed to 'The Three Extremes' last week but my friend bailed out so we ended up watching 'Series 7 - The Contenders' and 'Narc' instead)

______________________

Anywho, I agree with you about people namedropping Aronofsky, but then again the same could be said for people who name drop bands they have never heard and books they have never read.

I think a good film is a good film regardless of the director and their rep.

Oh, and my favourite directors;

Pedro Almodóvar
Joel Coen
Paul Thomas Anderson
Danny Boyle
Darren Aronofsky
Steven Speilberg (OMG!111!! He sed aSpeilberg?!!)

[matt_rawlings]

Wes Anderson may make his way somewhere near that list as well ("Rushmore" being my favourite film)

[IAmNietzche]

Well, your name dropping of directors seems to show you have 'an edgy taste in movies'.



Werner Herzog

(Grizzly Man = Fantastic, Invincible = Average, the rest of his films that I myself have seen = Unimpressive)

Wong Kar-Wai

(A heavy influence on Aronofski in some off kilter aspects, I realy want to see My Blueberry Nights)

David Lynch

(Can't fault you there either)

Chan Wook Park

(Is this the director of Oldboy? I can't be fucked looking it up, but I was supposed to 'The Three Extremes' last week but my friend bailed out so we ended up watching 'Series 7 - The Contenders' and 'Narc' instead)

______________________

Anywho, I agree with you about people namedropping Aronofsky, but then again the same could be said for people who name drop bands they have never heard and books they have never read.

I think a good film is a good film regardless of the director and their rep.

Oh, and my favourite directors;

Pedro Almodóvar
Joel Coen
Paul Thomas Anderson
Danny Boyle
Darren Aronofsky
Steven Speilberg (OMG!111!! He sed aSpeilberg?!!)
Herzog also directed Nosferatu and his new one Rescue Dawn looks amazing. The Fountain was the film that would have solidified Aronofsky in my mind as a good director but I felt that film was beautifully shot and adequately directed.

[JunkBondTrader]

Werner Herzog
Wong Kar-Wai
David Lynch
Chan Wook Park


Off the top of my head those are better writer/directors than either Nolan or Aronofsky (there are a ton more). But I guess it's your opinion.
hahah for some reason i had a dream last night where david lynch got shot and killed.....random.

[IAmNietzche]

hahah for some reason i had a dream last night where david lynch got shot and killed.....random.
If it happens I'm coming for you.

[JunkBondTrader]

If it happens I'm coming for you.
Mulholland Dr. is a badass flick. i still havent seen Blue Velvet though, my friend said thats his best.

[matt_rawlings]

Mulholland Dr. is a badass flick. i still havent seen Blue Velvet though, my friend said thats his best.

Your friend is correct

[IAmNietzche]

Mulholland Dr. is a badass flick. i still havent seen Blue Velvet though, my friend said thats his best.
Wild At Heart is my favorite. See Eraserhead as well.

[gilatron5000]

Sounds interesting, but I think Begins has an overall better concept.

[JunkBondTrader]

i always loved the straight story.

[Smithers]

i always loved the straight story.

that's my favorite movie of his. it's brilliant.

[reductiondesign]

Mulholland Dr is my favorite of Lynch's, by far.

And the best writer / director working right now is Paul Thomas Anderson. It's hard to call Nolan a writer--he only adapts. Not to say that's a bad thing, though; look at Kubrick.

[marrost]

Wild At Heart is my favorite. See Eraserhead as well.Wild At Heart has the greatest opening scene of time.

[buysoap]

Werner Herzog
Wong Kar-Wai
David Lynch
Chan Wook Park


Off the top of my head those are better writer/directors than either Nolan or Aronofsky (there are a ton more). But I guess it's your opinion.


I love their work. Chan Wook Park especially, the man is insanely good at making films. In fact, he was the only part of 3 Extremes I actually liked, and his vengeance trilogy are some of my favorite films.

[notoaststereo]

Mulholland Dr. is a badass flick. i still havent seen Blue Velvet though, my friend said thats his best.

i saw blue velvet in my film class. very good movie

[Timberwolf187]

i wasnt making this to compare ...but if it was ever made....it would be an interesting watch...i love both nolan and aranofsky...more nolan actually...his movies entertain me more...but both are great

[fluke182]

Can't beat perfection. Just watched Begins for I don't know, the 30th time. Man that is pretty much perfection of the comic book genre. It's even better after reading Batman: Year One. Aronofsky would not have been a good fit for the story in my opinion. Nolan was perfect because the atmosphere he creates IS Gotham City, and how he deals with Bruce Wayne/Batman being two sides of the same coin (which is more him) is just simply fantastic. I really cannot imagine any comic movie surpassing it, unless the Dark Knight does.

[selftitled85]

i find what he said to be terrible...the whole focusing on the dishing out of revenge first i could see that working...but using a lincoln all pimped out as the bat mobile is terrible.

nolan i think did a great job focusing on why bruce wayne is the way he is. it seems that aronofsky would take a shit ton of artistic liberty...and to a point i like that...but i think he would take it way too far.

[middlenameboom]

I think it would just be bad ass if Frank Miller worked on a Batman movie. Dark Knight is the best batman comic ever. I don't think it would matter who the director is if Frank Miller was involved. Though I think it would be hard to turn Dark Knight into a movie.

[DeadCityScars]

Aronofsky's version of anything is amazing. I heard he's working a bible story next. I'm sure it'll make even the bible look cool.

[cantnokdahustle]

Anyone else who doesn't mind the idea of competing Batman franchises?

I know its impractical due to adaptation rights and especially cash, but shit I would love to see variations upon the theme.

[bruce campbell]

Even better than Batman Begins. It's excellent. thoughts?

[buysoap]

Hey, cool, I just chastized the foreign kid for making a post about Batman outside the Batman thread, and now I get to chastize you too. Good job, fuckwad.

[bruce campbell]

Hey, cool, I just chastized the foreign kid for making a post about Batman outside the Batman thread, and now I get to chastize you too. Good job, fuckwad.

hey u cuntfaced bitch
this is the official mask of the phantasm thread
the official dark knight thread is for the movie The Dark Knight
i'll kill u wtf

[bruce campbell]

so has no one seen this movie? i thought there were batman fans on here

[FstFtsVsFences]

so has no one seen this movie? i thought there were batman fans on here
I saw it a long time ago and remember liking it because it was in the vein of the animated series. I love that fucking show.

[JIMMYateEARTH]

I believe I will have to say yes it is better than BEGINS, I haven't seen it in for ever though.

I need it on DVD, along with all the seasons of the Animated series.

[nightskies]

ya it's probably the best batman movie ever

[EnderDove]

What does everyone think of the Mr. Freeze one? I hear it sucks, but the episodes with Freeze in the animated series are classic. Which is why someone told me it's bad since it can't come close to the episodes with him.

[senatorlamb]

hey u cuntfaced bitch
this is the official mask of the phantasm thread
the official dark knight thread is for the movie The Dark Knight
i'll kill u wtf

hey now, buysoap is a great poster, and certainly not a cuntfaced bitch.

[nightskies]

What does everyone think of the Mr. Freeze one? I hear it sucks, but the episodes with Freeze in the animated series are classic. Which is why someone told me it's bad since it can't come close to the episodes with him.
I remember I used to love that one. I haven't seen it anytime recently but I'm sure I'd still like it. But from what I remember it was really good. I think it was called Deep Freeze.

[bruce campbell]

What does everyone think of the Mr. Freeze one? I hear it sucks, but the episodes with Freeze in the animated series are classic. Which is why someone told me it's bad since it can't come close to the episodes with him.

i love that first episode with mr. freeze

[EnderDove]

i love that first episode with mr. freeze

Heart Of Ice. :-)

[unwritten]

Awesome movie.

[slickwataris]

YES. I remember the video came with a full color comic book. That was exciting.

What does everyone think of the Mr. Freeze one? I hear it sucks, but the episodes with Freeze in the animated series are classic. Which is why someone told me it's bad since it can't come close to the episodes with him.

boring, from what I remember

[ThexQuietxCull]

i really like the film. i found it different from what i was used to with the animated series. plus, the "phantasm" was a hot broad.

[fluke182]

I love it. But Begins owns its face so hardcore.

[Jason Tate]

Even better than Batman Begins. It's excellent. thoughts?

If I wasn't on my sk I'd merge this thread ... we have a batman thread.

And having just watched this movie last night - I disagree.