Brett Favre

[Broken Parachute]

How annoying is he getting?

[marrost]

I hope his last pass ever was that pick to Webster haha.

[eHaMpToN]

lets get real brett, how many times is this now?
get over yourself

[Drew Beringer]

I blame ESPN. Favre said it was all rumor, I'll trust him over the tabloid journalism at ESPN.

[jaimej]

Getting? He's always been annoying. This is just overtime.

[LeftWideOpen]

I echo Jamie's sentiments. Yes, ESPN is very much to blame .. but Favre could come out and say "100%, I am retired. I don't want to play ever again".

he's yet to do that.

[Scott Weber]

Where is the "he's not annoying at all" option? Biased poll, banned.

[FondestMemory]

mort is the one that broke the story a week ahead of time that he was actually close to retiring. nobody believed him then. then it turned out to be true.

that's the only reason i don't buy favre claiming it's only a rumor.

[rcrook]

Aaron Rodgers probably has an AP account and voted "He's annoying the crap out of me, I wish he'd just play or retire"

[Drew Beringer]

Anyways, I would rather have Brett Favre as my quarterback than Aaron Rodgers. Ted Thompson will be an absolute fool if he thinks otherwise.

[BrokenMirror]

I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. I don't think Favre is coming back, and I, for one, think Aaron Rodgers will do fine. If people don't demand too much of him i.e. him to be brilliant in his first year, I expect him to grow very well into the role of the leader of the Packers. And hell, it's not like he hasn't got a good team to help him out. That defence was one of the best in the NFC last year, and Ryan Grant was a phenomenon at the end of the season + playoffs.

[You Vandal]

Anyways, I would rather have Brett Favre as my quarterback than Aaron Rodgers. Ted Thompson will be an absolute fool if he thinks otherwise.
Right, the organization has already moved on. Aaron Rodgers is the starting quarterback now. You can't just keep playing this game with Favre and the organization knows it. I see no way Favre plays for the Packers this season or anytime in the future. They will not be releasing him either, think about it. The two teams in the NFL who need quarterbacks the most are probably Minnesota (Tavaris?) and Chicago. What a disaster that would be.

[Drew Beringer]

I really don't think Favre is coming back.

[FondestMemory]

if favre decides to play this season, i honestly would not blame aaron rodgers one bit if he asked to be traded/released. and it'd be kinda shitty for the pack not to honor that.

[Drew Beringer]

if favre decides to play this season, i honestly would not blame aaron rodgers one bit if he asked to be traded/released. and it'd be kinda shitty for the pack not to honor that.
Yeah I agree. It would be a shitty thing if Favre really wants to come back, but I won't lie, I'd rather have Favre than Rodgers.

[You Vandal]

if favre decides to play this season, i honestly would not blame aaron rodgers one bit if he asked to be traded/released. and it'd be kinda shitty for the pack not to honor that.
That is why there is now way the Packers let Favre come in and play for them. Ted Thompson and McCarthy have proven to be extremely team oriented people and allowing Favre to come trounce in and destroy their reputations will never happen.

[Drew Beringer]

But I would hate to be the guy who kicks Brett Favre out of town. Unfair as it is, the state of Wisconsin would hate those two men forever.

[You Vandal]

But I would hate to be the guy who kicks Brett Favre out of town. Unfair as it is, the state of Wisconsin would hate those two men forever.
I honestly think a lot of Packer fans are getting fed up with Favre's antics. Sure, I know he is God here and blah blah blah, but after he retired many fans were heartbroken and are just now coming around to the idea of Rodgers. Favre's continuing indecisiveness is really starting to wear on fans. Now outright releasing Favre and refusing to let him play for the Packers are two different things. I think Packer fans will be a lot more understanding of the situation than most people think.

[You Vandal]

And I would like to add that I would much rather have Favre behind center next season but at this point it just can't happen.

[Drew Beringer]

I still don't think Favre is coming back anyways. I think someone from his family just said something and ESPN is just beating it into the ground.

[eHaMpToN]

wow darren woodson is just not cut out to be an anchor did anyone see him on there today? guy cant even speak

[FondestMemory]

if he wants to come back, the packers have two options if they don't want him back.

once he sends a letter to the league claiming he wants to play in 08, the packers have 24 hours to either accept him or outright release him. they can release him outright and have their hands washed completely of him. or they can accept him onto the roster and try to trade him.

which makes them look worse to packer fans?

[deadstar]

Keep him as Rodgers' backup.

[CarlosLunes]

I still don't think Favre is coming back anyways. I think someone from his family just said something and ESPN is just beating it into the ground.

you say this but brett hasnt come out and said hes not coming back, hes wording his statements very carefully.

[Drew Beringer]

if he wants to come back, the packers have two options if they don't want him back.

once he sends a letter to the league claiming he wants to play in 08, the packers have 24 hours to either accept him or outright release him. they can release him outright and have their hands washed completely of him. or they can accept him onto the roster and try to trade him.

which makes them look worse to packer fans?
Both are horrible scenarios, it'll be bad no matter what. Which is why he needs to stay retired.

[Drew Beringer]

you say this but brett hasnt come out and said hes not coming back, hes wording his statements very carefully.
I know and I wish he would. All he has said is that it's all rumor, so we'll see. Favre and ESPN are just toying with my emotions!

[preppyak]

if favre decides to play this season, i honestly would not blame aaron rodgers one bit if he asked to be traded/released. and it'd be kinda shitty for the pack not to honor that.
If I were Aaron Rodgers in that scenario...and I was forced to stay in Green Bay...I'd be telling EVERY secret from the locker room, doing my best to destroy the season. Cause at that point, Green Bay has fucked you and potentially your career, by saying that a guy who wanted to retire numerous times is the guy they want more...as good as he may be.

Really, I am sick of "unnamed sources"...if you are gonna drop a Brett Favre story, name your source...Jason Cole is the king of this shit reporting. He'll say "two inside sources" have told me that Jason Taylor wants out of Miami...and then catch hell for it, but the story is already out there.

[FondestMemory]

there are so many angles to this story that it's ridiculous. one thing out there is that favre and his agent approached the packers two weeks ago claiming that he would be coming back, but asking for a release if he were to do so. the pack said no and proclaimed that if he were coming back, it would be in a packers uniform or not at all.

and that kind of makes sense from favre's side because there are also rumors floating around from sources close to him that claim he would like to play for the panthers in 08. the roster is put together well enough to compete in the nfc, and he could more than likely step right in and replace delhomme. it's also geographically closer to his home in mississippi and includes three road games played close to his home.

there's more to the story than you want to believe, drew. it's not just espn running with it. there's news out there. it's coming from somewhere.

[Drew Beringer]

I just hate sports.

[rob_mylo]

doesn't matter if he plays or not.. for the next couple years im sure its gonna be a question in greenbay land.. will he be back?

[Drew Beringer]

If he plays for another team, I quit NFL.

[kbauer]

Ive always dispised him, always. As far as Im concerned, this is great because hes destroying his image and I hope he comes back with another team because it would probably hurt his (played up) legacy.

[Scott Weber]

this wouldn't do shit to his legacy, get real.

like people give a shit that michael jordan played for the wizards now. or like people remember that babe ruth played for the braves. if he plays for somebody else, it'll be all crazy talk for a year, maybe two. Hell, I barely remember Joe Montana playing for the Chiefs, and that wasn't even a post-retirement comeback.

[deadstar]

this wouldn't do shit to his legacy, get real.

like people give a shit that michael jordan played for the wizards now. or like people remember that babe ruth played for the braves. if he plays for somebody else, it'll be all crazy talk for a year, maybe two. Hell, I barely remember Joe Montana playing for the Chiefs, and that wasn't even a post-retirement comeback.
I remember Montana vividly, but only because of this game

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/games/drg000/g024/g02471b75mb.jpg

[bigmike]

I'm tired of him. The fucking hick needs to stay in Mississippi and retire.

Then again, every single time I turn on ESPN it's an NFL-related story so I hate pretty much the entire league. Save for Warren Sapp.

[Scott Weber]

you just hate the NFL and all offseason filler stories even more.

[bigmike]

you just hate the NFL and all offseason filler stories even more.
Nah. I was tired of hearing how good he was last year and that's with me constantly limiting my exposure to the NFL. I think he gets a big time pass from the media for being such a "gamer" while he makes questionable throw after questionable throw. When Favre does it, it's because he's a "gunslinger" but when others do it it's "reckless."

[Crocodile Logic]

first option is the closest. just get rid of the "play or" part.

but then again, i've never been a brett favre fan.

[SoultoSqueeze]

I bet the media is blowing this up more than we know.

[airik625]

I hope he stays retired. and I wish they would quit talking about it until something substantial is mentioned from a reliable source.

[kbauer]

this wouldn't do shit to his legacy, get real.

like people give a shit that michael jordan played for the wizards now. or like people remember that babe ruth played for the braves. if he plays for somebody else, it'll be all crazy talk for a year, maybe two. Hell, I barely remember Joe Montana playing for the Chiefs, and that wasn't even a post-retirement comeback.


Touche.

[preppyak]

I remember Montana vividly, but only because of this game

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/games/drg000/g024/g02471b75mb.jpghaha, which I do still own with my Sega Genesis...along with Sports Talk

[xashkox]

I really respect the Packers organization to moving above the hero worship that usually surrounds Favre to say that they're moving forward with Aaron Rodgers regardless.

Favre needs to hang it up, let his jersey be retired, and hang out with his family. (not to mention I would also love it if his last NFL pass was an interception...)

If Favre ends up on the Vikings, I don't know what I would do...

[LeftWideOpen]

If Favre ends up on the Vikings, I don't know what I would do...

dont have to worry about that. the packers have his phone records from a team-issued cellphone and they show him making multiple calls to the vikings. not only will he not be going there, the packers will likely get a vikings draft choice.

[alltimecam]

every time i turn on espn something new has happened and they repeat the story all day its the most annoying thing

[deadstar]

Why would the Vikings need him?

They're already top 5.

[Zeran]

brett favre: fucking retire already, for fuck's sake.

[CubbyNick42]

The guy wants to do a job that he's proven he's more than capable of performing. Let him do it.

[Scott Weber]

The guy wants to do a job that he's proven he's more than capable of performing. Let him do it.
I agree.

[CubbyNick42]

Like, honestly...I'd like to hear one good argument for him to stay retired that doesn't include some derivation of "He's on TV a lot and this annoys me."

[LeftWideOpen]

The guy wants to do a job that he's proven he's more than capable of performing. Let him do it.

except, hes under contract. green bay can do whatever they want with him.

[LeftWideOpen]

Like, honestly...I'd like to hear one good argument for him to stay retired that doesn't include some derivation of "He's on TV a lot and this annoys me."

he doesnt have to stay retired, but he also isnt entitled to the starting gig. the organization has moved on with plans, involving aaron rodgers, and have the right to park his ass on the bench or trade him. they don't want to do the former because of the distraction it would cause, thus the pressure for favre to stay retired. favre, clearly, doesnt want to be a backup.

so, you try and find a suitor/deal that benefits the organization the most .. if you can't find that, favre is shit out of luck. packers have all the leverage here.

[Scott Weber]

Like, honestly...I'd like to hear one good argument for him to stay retired that doesn't include some derivation of "He's on TV a lot and this annoys me."
I know. He wants to play, he's such a competitor that he can't walk away from the game. He can still play. Even though everyone else thinks it's annoying, i can respect that. He's not handling it right, but still.

[Jared Kaufman]

Why would the Vikings need him?

They're already top 5.
I hope this is a joke making fun of the Vikings fanboy from last season, otherwise :-|

[RetardedInLove]

Here's to hoping he goes to the Vikings next year!! No but really I think that any team who trades for him is not making a very wise decision. He will be a quick fix and has maybe one or two good seasons left in him, and you compare that with how much you will have to give up in order to get him?? The cons far outweigh the pros

[xbrokendownx]

im pretty sure ALL teams know that hes only a quick fix...

[RetardedInLove]

And that's why I feel that it would not be a wise decision for a team to trade for him. In order to get a player of Brett Favre's caliber, you would have to give up multiple players and draft picks, basically getting rid of potential good young players, and in return you would get one good season.

[CarlosLunes]

would it be absolutely insane to suggest that perhaps this vikings tampering situation is part of some sort of weird agreement between the packers and brett favre.

think of it like this:
favre wants to leave packers
packers dont want favre back
packers control favre
packers and favre set up a situation where favre makes these calls to vikings
this results in packers getting something from vikings for tampering
packers then trade favre and get something more for him
favre moves on, packers move on

if that is not what happened, then favre is just a dumb hayseed and fucked up with the whole phone call thing

[FondestMemory]

haha. i think favre's just dumb and fucked up with the whole phone call thing.

it's just the calls to childress. the calls to bevell they can't really do anything about, because they are friends. if it were just calls to him, the packers have no case.

it's the multiple phone calls to a head coach whom he has no previous relationship with that will fuck him.

and honestly, how does it not cross your mind that you're still using the cell phone that the packers are paying for?

[CarlosLunes]

haha. i think favre's just dumb and fucked up with the whole phone call thing.

it's just the calls to childress. the calls to bevell they can't really do anything about, because they are friends. if it were just calls to him, the packers have no case.

it's the multiple phone calls to a head coach whom he has no previous relationship with that will fuck him.

and honestly, how does it not cross your mind that you're still using the cell phone that the packers are paying for?

well hes either very stupid, or very smart.

[FondestMemory]

i'm going with very stupid.

[CubbyNick42]

he doesnt have to stay retired, but he also isnt entitled to the starting gig. the organization has moved on with plans, involving aaron rodgers, and have the right to park his ass on the bench or trade him. they don't want to do the former because of the distraction it would cause, thus the pressure for favre to stay retired. favre, clearly, doesnt want to be a backup.

so, you try and find a suitor/deal that benefits the organization the most .. if you can't find that, favre is shit out of luck. packers have all the leverage here.
Sorry, I worded my post poorly. I agree 100% with everything here. I was referring more to the fans who bitch about him trying to come back than to the team itself.

[Rock]

wow darren woodson is just not cut out to be an anchor did anyone see him on there today? guy cant even speak
That's how I feel about Shannon Sharpe.

[eHaMpToN]

That's how I feel about Shannon Sharpe.
agreed.

[Circa1628]

I really haven't paid attention, I just want the season to start!

[3milesdown]

Favre adamantly denied reports that the Packers had evidence of his communications with Childress because they had the phone records from Favre's team-issued cell phone.
"That's just bogus," said Favre. "I don't have a Packers' cell phone. Never have. I told Ted [on Thursday] that he and [coach Mike] McCarthy needed to clear up this cell phone thing. I told him they needed to get in front of the media and admit that I don't have one of their cell phones. And Ted said, 'Well, I think somebody already squashed that [story].' But that isn't enough. They need to get up and admit it's ridiculous and bogus."
Thompson did not immediately return a phone message to respond to Favre's version of the story.









man this whole thing is ridiculous. i just wish the packers would welcome him with open arms despite him being a little bitch.

[cscwell107]

Favre adamantly denied reports that the Packers had evidence of his communications with Childress because they had the phone records from Favre's team-issued cell phone.
"That's just bogus," said Favre. "I don't have a Packers' cell phone. Never have. I told Ted [on Thursday] that he and [coach Mike] McCarthy needed to clear up this cell phone thing. I told him they needed to get in front of the media and admit that I don't have one of their cell phones. And Ted said, 'Well, I think somebody already squashed that [story].' But that isn't enough. They need to get up and admit it's ridiculous and bogus."
Thompson did not immediately return a phone message to respond to Favre's version of the story.









man this whole thing is ridiculous. i just wish the packers would welcome him with open arms despite him being a little bitch.

Yea I mean with the amazing season last year they should just take him. Its worth it even if he bitches all the time

[prettyinpinky89]

im pretty sure ALL teams know that hes only a quick fix...

He's not a quick fix. Yeah, he's slowed down over the years but he's still great. Green Bay won't be the same without him

[xbrokendownx]

how is he not a quick fix? dudes gonna play for most likely 1 more year, aka a quick fix

[Wildness774]

yeah brett farve will prolly flirt with retirement for the next 10 years
dont be suprised if he does

[speakhandsforme]

The entire Favre dilemma is just incredibly depressing for we, the Packers fans. It's weird how much it feels like a romantic breakup, with today assumedly being the final fall out.

[speakhandsforme]

Why would the Vikings need him?

They're already top 5.

That's why they need him. They're a top level team with almost certainly the worst starting QB in the league....

It's pretty simple.

[preppyak]

Should have stayed retired....cause he needs to win the Super Bowl this year to validate the level of asshole he has brought upon himself. In true Roger Clemens form, he has made a team game about the individual, and created a scenario where success for the player depends on the same team he neglected to think about in the process

In short, unless he wins a Super Bowl for Green Bay this season...he has failed...and it is about 150:1 odds of that last I saw

[njg418]

Where is the "he's not annoying at all" option? Biased poll, banned.

i totally agree. Brett Favre is pretty much the teeth and guts of that team so I'm just glad he's still in it. GO GB!!

[Broken Parachute]

That's why they need him. They're a top level team with almost certainly the worst starting QB in the league....

It's pretty simple.It's an inside joke actually that he was referring to.

[youkwalks]

finally.