The "correct" way to write bands/albums

[Anthony Lutz]

Since I've pretty much come to the conclusion that many APer's have OCD, I made a poll a few days ago about whether Hellogoodbye should be capitalized or lowercased. It came out that it was about half and half as far as which people preferred, so I figured I would ask if there were any other spellings that you guys specifically make sure to write in your iTunes. Here are a few examples for me:

mewithoutYou
eels
The pAper chAse
At The Drive-In's - in/CASINO/OUT

So I just wanted to see what other bands or albums that you guys specifically make sure to spell a certain way, and agree/disagree towards other posters opinions of how they do things.

[versus_god]

C I V I L W A R

[thespearkid]

Panic! at the Disco.

Just because I feel like it.

[theguy77]

bright eyes

[theguy77]

iron and wine (not iron & wine)

[hailthewarrior]

mewithoutYou

[hailthewarrior]

iron and wine (not iron & wine)

looks better in the way you dont like it for me.

[Anthony Lutz]

iron and wine (not iron & wine)

Do you use the & for any band names? If so, which ones?

I have it for Ted Leo & The Pharmacists and House & Parish

[OdeToTheSun]

Who really cares as long as we know what your talking about.

[Genuma]

A L L C A P S

[Until The Bombs]

I spell them all a certain way; the right way.

[eHaMpToN]

3oh!3


edit: lol

[Troggy]

iron and wine (not iron & wine)

I'm an Iron & Wine kinda guy

[thespearkid]

I never use ampersands. They screw me up when I'm trying to search for bands.

[Hamlet]

For artist names and album titles, I strip off the stylistic lower cases (a band name is a proper noun and should be capitalised), as well as any preceding punctuation ("...Of a Revolution" just looks dumb), then follow standard capitalisation rules in a similar fashion to song titles (lowercase articles, coordinating conjunctions, prepositions four letters or shorter).

I am more forgiving with song titles, and usually write them as stated in album covers - "crushcrushcrush", "...Because I Spot Hot Fire".

I use ampersands if the band uses them in their official publicity (website, album cover) eg This Day & Age, Angels & Airwaves.

I hate how iTunes ignores the article in a band name. The article is part of the band name, and should be included in alphabetisation. They're not Beatles, they're The Beatles. I don't want to find A Perfect Circle in the "P" section when their full name, specifically chosen by the band members, was "A Perfect Circle". It's an atrocity.

[tD77]

This one has bugged me:

Is it Secret and Whisper or Secret & Whisper?

[Anthony Lutz]

This one has bugged me:

Is it Secret and Whisper or Secret & Whisper?

On their album cover it's Secret & Whisper

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drj600/j646/j64636nrk9v.jpg

[Anthony Lutz]

What about this: City and Colour or City & Colour?

edit: nevermind, I looked at the album cover :-)

[funkel]

iron and wine (not iron & wine)
no!

[theguy77]

oh see in that instance, its city & colour

[Anthony Lutz]

oh see in that instance, its city & colour

How do you determine it? Aka, what's your logic behind it if you don't mind me asking.

[Anthony Lutz]

The only reason I say is because this is the album cover:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61TW42YB9ML._SS500_.jpg

[theguy77]

How do you determine it? Aka, what's your logic behind it if you don't mind me asking.

whatever pleases my aesthetic. im selectively picky.

[tD77]

On their album cover it's Secret & Whisper

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drj600/j646/j64636nrk9v.jpg

After researching a bit, more signs point to the ampersand. Just wish last.fm users would follow suit. Its roughly 130k to 30k with the former using "and" and the latter using "&."

Edit: They use both on their clothing. How irritating.

[Anthony Lutz]

After researching a bit, more signs point to the ampersand. Just wish last.fm users would follow suit. Its roughly 130k to 30k with the former using "and" and the latter using "&."

Edit: They use both on their clothing. How irritating.

Yeah, I noticed that Coheed & Cambria use it on different albums.

Which are you going to end up going with?

[Brokenhill]

Smashing Pumpkins or The Smashing Pumpkins?

I say TSP.

http://www.zmemusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/smashingpumpkins-siamesedream.jpg
http://s.yottamusic.com/i/afzh.6AtQ/375x375

[Until The Bombs]

I say SP.

[hailthewarrior]

I use Coheed & Cambria, because it looks cooler and more sci-fi, hahaha. /lame

[Anthony Lutz]

Yeah, Smashing Pumpkins sounds better IMO

[CellarGhosts]

Sp > Tsp

[versus_god]

tbsp > tsp

[tD77]

Yeah, I noticed that Coheed & Cambria use it on different albums.

Which are you going to end up going with?

Probably Secret & Whisper. If last.fm ends up merging the two, I'll be fine.

Here's another one:

Men, Women & Children or
Men, Women, & Children or
Men, Women, and Children or
Men, Women and Children

I use the first.

[hailthewarrior]

Men, Women, & Children

[CellarGhosts]

How do you guys write the name of that long ass fucking album title that Fiona Apple wrote? something about when the pawn blah blah blah checkmate, rook, bishop to so and so square blah?

[Anthony Lutz]

How do you guys write the name of that long ass fucking album title that Fiona Apple wrote? something about when the pawn blah blah blah checkmate, rook, bishop to so and so square blah?

I have When The Pawn... and that's it.

[Brokenhill]

I say SP.

Yeah, Smashing Pumpkins sounds better IMO

Sp > Tsp


No way, The Smashing Pumpkins is better.

[CellarGhosts]

I have When The Pawn... and that's it.
Yeah, same here. I forget what the album title even is, it's so damn long but I know people who have either spelled it all out (:-0) or just abbreviate every letter.

[CellarGhosts]

Well, if you're saying "I like the Smashing Pumpkins", that might sound better because if you went the other way, the uninformed might get the idea that you like beating the piss out of festive Halloween vegetables. However, listing them on your iPod and whatnot, "Smashing Pumpkins" just looks better.

[Anthony Lutz]

Yeah, same here. I forget what the album title even is, it's so damn long but I know people who have either spelled it all out (:-0) or just abbreviate every letter.

Well, considering it got the Guinness Book of World Records for longest album title, it's kind of easy to forget...

[CellarGhosts]

Well, considering it got the Guinness Book of World Records for longest album title, it's kind of easy to forget...
Haha well yeah, I just felt like that was implied. I meant more so I don't remember even one word past "pawn", some people can get pretty far with what they remember of it hah.

[Until The Bombs]

No way, The Smashing Pumpkins is better.

Ahhhh......GTFO.

[Anthony Lutz]

Haha well yeah, I just felt like that was implied. I meant more so I don't remember even one word past "pawn", some people can get pretty far with what they remember of it hah.

I'm sure if I took the time I could remember it, but that takes effort.

[CellarGhosts]

I'm sure if I took the time I could remember it, but that takes effort.
Yeah, for sure.

[Chromefox]

I never write them as they're intended. I always opt for the version that feels gramatically correct.

[daftknight]

Has anyone mentioned Underoath? I'm not a huge fan or anything, but for the few songs I have by them, I use that intensely Danish "ø". It just works better that way, I think. Hahah

[chaosB4storm]

if The Mars Volta were coming out with a new album, is it correct to say:

1. There is a new Mars Volta album coming out.

OR

2. There is a new The Mars Volta album coming out.

[Anthony Lutz]

if The Mars Volta were coming out with a new album, is it correct to say:

1. There is a new Mars Volta album coming out.

OR

2. There is a new The Mars Volta album coming out.

I think the correct one is, "There is a new The Mars Volta album coming out." But if you said the first, people would still know exactly what you're talking about.

[chaosB4storm]

ok, i agree, btw, this website does it the wrong way, and i notice that kind of thing, so i was just throwing that out there lol

[wewascontenders]

Kidcrash or The Kidcrash, doesn't really bother me, but I felt like contributing.

[Chromefox]

if The Mars Volta were coming out with a new album, is it correct to say:

1. There is a new Mars Volta album coming out.

OR

2. There is a new The Mars Volta album coming out. I'd go with the first one. Similarly, bands with names in the plural that are not preceeded by a "the", I would include "the" in front of regardless. Ie; "I like the Horrorpops".

[chaosB4storm]

so u would say, there is a new the horrorpops album, but u wouldnt say there is a new the mars volta album?

[Anthony Lutz]

Which of these is correct: Blink-182 or blink-182?

[CellarGhosts]

I've always written it "blink-182". I don't really care either way though.

Oh, and because they're my second favorite band ever, I feel compelled to say that it is not "THE Alkaline Trio" it's simply "Alkaline Trio".

[Anthony Lutz]

so u would say, there is a new the horrorpops album, but u wouldnt say there is a new the mars volta album?

The example he used was, "I like the Horrorpops" So if he were to say, "I'm going to buy the new Horrorpops album" That would mean the same thing. It's kind of confusing, but I get what he means depending on the context it's used in.

[Yes. And?]

Billy said it's The Smashing Pumpkins, but I prefer to say it without 'the'.

[CellarGhosts]

Oh and to add to the discussion up there; it sounds really awkward, and probably grammatically incorrect, to say "I'm going to buy the new the Smashing Pumpkins album"

In such cases, "the" has to be eliminated.

[Anthony Lutz]

I've always written it "blink-182". I don't really care either way though.

Oh, and because they're my second favorite band ever, I feel compelled to say that it is not "THE Alkaline Trio" it's simply "Alkaline Trio".

Yeah, I've never put a the in front of Alkaline Trio, it feels to me that it's the equivalent of putting an 's' at the end of Fall Out Boy.

[Chromefox]

so u would say, there is a new the horrorpops album, but u wouldnt say there is a new the mars volta album? Not what I said. I would say "I like the Horrorpops" instead of "I like Horrorpops".

Depending on the sentence though, I would say "There is a new Horrorpops album".

In such cases, "the" has to be eliminated. This.

[CellarGhosts]

Yeah, I've never put a the in front of Alkaline Trio, it feels to me that it's the equivalent of putting an 's' at the end of Fall Out Boy.
Haha, agreed. I used to hear people do that constantly, when FOB were blowing up with From Under the Cork Tree. Every time I turned around it was "ZOMGZOMG HAVE U HERD DA FALL OUT BOYS!?!?!"

Same goes for Dropkick Murphys, alot of people put "the" before their name but technically there isn't one. I sometimes even do it myself, haha.

[Anthony Lutz]

Haha, agreed. I used to hear people do that constantly, when FOB were blowing up with From Under the Cork Tree. Every time I turned around it was "ZOMGZOMG HAVE U HERD DA FALL OUT BOYS!?!?!"

Same goes for Dropkick Murphys, alot of people put "the" before their name but technically there isn't one. I sometimes even do it myself, haha.

Is it correct to put a the in front of Drive-By Truckers or not? I leave it off, but it's always good to at least double check.

God I feel like a nerd for talking about something so minute.

[CellarGhosts]

Is it correct to put a the in front of Drive-By Truckers or not? I leave it off, but it's always good to at least double check.

God I feel like a nerd for talking about something so minute.
Eh, doesn't really matter for them, I don't think. I'm not really into them, since I haven't listened to much but from what I understand most people just say "Drive By Truckers"

haha, eh, I do too but whatever, it's discussion.

[chaosB4storm]

i believe *the* has to be there because it IS part of the band name

[Brokenhill]

Oh and to add to the discussion up there; it sounds really awkward, and probably grammatically incorrect, to say "I'm going to buy the new the Smashing Pumpkins album"

In such cases, "the" has to be eliminated.


Because it's too hard to say "I'm going to buy the new album by The Smashing Pumpkins"?

[CellarGhosts]

That works too.

[bowl of oranges]

I've always said Smashing Pumpkins.
and I don't use the word "and" when I write Coheed & Cambria

[CellarGhosts]

Everyone I know says "Smashing Pumpkins".

[Brokenhill]

Everyone I know, doesn't listen to TSP.

[Praetor]

I know that these aren't the right way to do these but this is how I like it.

-I capitalize everything. "The," "a," "of," or any other word that's not normally capitalized is capitalized.

-I use "&" instead of "and" all the time, except when the "and" is at the beginning of the song title, ie "...And Redemption Fills The Emptiest Of Hearts."

-I also use "&" instead of "and" in all band names, even if the band intends their name to be written with an "and"

-Whenever a song has multiple parts with different subtitles for each part, I write it like this:
"Story Of A Free Man: Chapter One (The End Of Innocence)"
"The Willing Well: Part I (Fuel For The Feeding End)"
Except when there's only one part and it's called "Part __", ie "Bonus Mosh, Pt. 2" where there's only one "Bonus Mosh" by Taking Back Sunday and the "Part 2" is part of the title

-Acoustics, remixes, etc: "Chicago Is So Two Years Ago (Remix)"

-Double disc albums: "...In Defense Of The Genre (Disc 1)"

-Demos: if there's more than one demo in the same session (ie Elliott Smith has 33 Either/Or demos) then it looks like this: "Either/Or (Demo)"
But if it's just one demo then the album will be "Miscellaneous" (like most of my other acoustics/remixes) and the song title would be "Keep Your Voices Down (Demo)"

-Also, Matt Pryor's new album: the artist is "Matt Pryor" but I make the album artist "The New Amsterdams" so the album will appear grouped together with The New Amsterdams but it'll still say the artist is Matt Pryor, since there's really very little distinction between his solo stuff and The New Amsterdams

I'm really anal about my iTunes.

[Praetor]

Kidcrash or The Kidcrash, doesn't really bother me, but I felt like contributing.
This.

[handlikesecret]

Iron & Wine
mewithoutYou
Goo Goo Dolls

[Praetor]

I hate anyone and everyone who doesn't write "mewithoutYou".

[handlikesecret]

I hate anyone and everyone who doesn't write "mewithoutYou".
as well you should.

[KatieKutthroat.]

It's just Descendents, right? Not The Descendents?

[Anthony Lutz]

It's just Descendents, right? Not The Descendents?

Yup, no "the"

[Anthony Lutz]

I know that these aren't the right way to do these but this is how I like it.

-I capitalize everything. "The," "a," "of," or any other word that's not normally capitalized is capitalized.

-I use "&" instead of "and" all the time, except when the "and" is at the beginning of the song title, ie "...And Redemption Fills The Emptiest Of Hearts."

-I also use "&" instead of "and" in all band names, even if the band intends their name to be written with an "and"

-Whenever a song has multiple parts with different subtitles for each part, I write it like this:
"Story Of A Free Man: Chapter One (The End Of Innocence)"
"The Willing Well: Part I (Fuel For The Feeding End)"
Except when there's only one part and it's called "Part __", ie "Bonus Mosh, Pt. 2" where there's only one "Bonus Mosh" by Taking Back Sunday and the "Part 2" is part of the title

-Acoustics, remixes, etc: "Chicago Is So Two Years Ago (Remix)"

-Double disc albums: "...In Defense Of The Genre (Disc 1)"

-Demos: if there's more than one demo in the same session (ie Elliott Smith has 33 Either/Or demos) then it looks like this: "Either/Or (Demo)"
But if it's just one demo then the album will be "Miscellaneous" (like most of my other acoustics/remixes) and the song title would be "Keep Your Voices Down (Demo)"

-Also, Matt Pryor's new album: the artist is "Matt Pryor" but I make the album artist "The New Amsterdams" so the album will appear grouped together with The New Amsterdams but it'll still say the artist is Matt Pryor, since there's really very little distinction between his solo stuff and The New Amsterdams

I'm really anal about my iTunes.

Usually in that instance, I make a folder that says B-Sides instead :-)

[sowrongitsryan]

theAUDITION

[FayeQC]

argh, there are so many debates over the proper names of bands.

Anyone, is it 'Manchester Orchestra' or 'The Manchester Orchestra'?

[Anthony Lutz]

argh, there are so many debates over the proper names of bands.

Anyone, is it 'Manchester Orchestra' or 'The Manchester Orchestra'?

I think it's just Manchester Orchestra, at least I've never heard anyone say "The Manchester Orchestra"...

[MADSTA]

I know that these aren't the right way to do these but this is how I like it.

-I capitalize everything. "The," "a," "of," or any other word that's not normally capitalized is capitalized.

-I use "&" instead of "and" all the time, except when the "and" is at the beginning of the song title, ie "...And Redemption Fills The Emptiest Of Hearts."

-I also use "&" instead of "and" in all band names, even if the band intends their name to be written with an "and"

-Whenever a song has multiple parts with different subtitles for each part, I write it like this:
"Story Of A Free Man: Chapter One (The End Of Innocence)"
"The Willing Well: Part I (Fuel For The Feeding End)"
Except when there's only one part and it's called "Part __", ie "Bonus Mosh, Pt. 2" where there's only one "Bonus Mosh" by Taking Back Sunday and the "Part 2" is part of the title

-Acoustics, remixes, etc: "Chicago Is So Two Years Ago (Remix)"

-Double disc albums: "...In Defense Of The Genre (Disc 1)"

-Demos: if there's more than one demo in the same session (ie Elliott Smith has 33 Either/Or demos) then it looks like this: "Either/Or (Demo)"
But if it's just one demo then the album will be "Miscellaneous" (like most of my other acoustics/remixes) and the song title would be "Keep Your Voices Down (Demo)"

-Also, Matt Pryor's new album: the artist is "Matt Pryor" but I make the album artist "The New Amsterdams" so the album will appear grouped together with The New Amsterdams but it'll still say the artist is Matt Pryor, since there's really very little distinction between his solo stuff and The New Amsterdams

I'm really anal about my iTunes.
That always bothered me. I always make it one album and just add however many tracks there were on the first disc to the number of the tracks on the second one.

[FayeQC]

I think it's just Manchester Orchestra, at least I've never heard anyone say "The Manchester Orchestra"...

Thought the same until someone on last fm said it is labelled wrong because their site is themanchesterorchestra.com :shrug:

[Praetor]

Usually in that instance, I make a folder that says B-Sides instead :-)
That bugs me though, because technically, a demo isn't a b-side.
That always bothered me. I always make it one album and just add however many tracks there were on the first disc to the number of the tracks on the second one.
You can change the disc numbers so you don't have to do that, you know. For example, in disc 1 of In Defense Of The Genre, select all of the songs and right-click > get info, then change the disc numbers to Disc 1 of 2 and number the tracks regularly. Change the second disc to disc 2 of 2 and number the tracks regularly. Make both discs' album names the same and you'll have regularly numbered/titled discs.

[stfu_man]

The JONBENÉT yelled at me once for putting that accent mark over the wrong vowel and for not spacing the words correctly on a show poster, uhhhhh.

[stfu_man]

I know that these aren't the right way to do these but this is how I like it.

-I capitalize everything. "The," "a," "of," or any other word that's not normally capitalized is capitalized.

-I use "&" instead of "and" all the time, except when the "and" is at the beginning of the song title, ie "...And Redemption Fills The Emptiest Of Hearts."

-I also use "&" instead of "and" in all band names, even if the band intends their name to be written with an "and"

-Whenever a song has multiple parts with different subtitles for each part, I write it like this:
"Story Of A Free Man: Chapter One (The End Of Innocence)"
"The Willing Well: Part I (Fuel For The Feeding End)"
Except when there's only one part and it's called "Part __", ie "Bonus Mosh, Pt. 2" where there's only one "Bonus Mosh" by Taking Back Sunday and the "Part 2" is part of the title

-Acoustics, remixes, etc: "Chicago Is So Two Years Ago (Remix)"

-Double disc albums: "...In Defense Of The Genre (Disc 1)"

-Demos: if there's more than one demo in the same session (ie Elliott Smith has 33 Either/Or demos) then it looks like this: "Either/Or (Demo)"
But if it's just one demo then the album will be "Miscellaneous" (like most of my other acoustics/remixes) and the song title would be "Keep Your Voices Down (Demo)"

-Also, Matt Pryor's new album: the artist is "Matt Pryor" but I make the album artist "The New Amsterdams" so the album will appear grouped together with The New Amsterdams but it'll still say the artist is Matt Pryor, since there's really very little distinction between his solo stuff and The New Amsterdams

I'm really anal about my iTunes.

Me too. I also take the genre category out completely. I think it's unnecessary.

[mynameiscarterr]

Probably Secret & Whisper. If last.fm ends up merging the two, I'll be fine.

Here's another one:

Men, Women & Children or
Men, Women, & Children or
Men, Women, and Children or
Men, Women and Children

I use the first.

Men Women & Children

[chipdip18]

This is intense.

[Omaha_Slamdance]

Too True.

It bugs me that my friends IPOD he downloads music illegal and it's either not spelt correctly or its not captialized i.e
This Is What The Edge Of Your Seat Was Made For not this is what the Edge of your seat was made for

[Praetor]

Also contrary to A Fatal Goodbye's opinion, album titles are not underlined, book titles are.

[chipdip18]

Too True.

It bugs me that my friends IPOD he downloads music illegal and it's either not spelt correctly or its not captialized i.e
This Is What The Edge Of Your Seat Was Made For not this is what the Edge of your seat was made for


Yeah! I absolutely agree. I hate that so much....

[CellarGhosts]

Also contrary to A Fatal Goodbye's opinion, album titles are not underlined, book titles are.
Hahaha, someone had to say it.

[absolutecrunk]

Well, if you're saying "I like the Smashing Pumpkins", that might sound better because if you went the other way, the uninformed might get the idea that you like beating the piss out of festive Halloween vegetables. However, listing them on your iPod and whatnot, "Smashing Pumpkins" just looks better.
"Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins."
"Homer Simpson, smiling politely."

[CellarGhosts]

"Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins."
"Homer Simpson, smiling politely."
:appl:

brilliantly done hahaha.

[DaveZeroZero]

I use +44 instead of (+44) :shrug:

[CellarGhosts]

I use +44 instead of (+44) :shrug:
I do the same.

And yes, everyone knows now that I like +44 haha.

Who's the nark?

That fat Jamaican guy.
"Oh, here comes that cannonball guy. He's cool!"
"Are you being sarcastic, dude?"
"I don't even know anymore"

[DaveZeroZero]

I do the same.

And yes, everyone knows now that I like +44 haha.

Well, at least you're not admitting to liking AVA =]

[CellarGhosts]

Oh, this is just great. First Homer Simpson wrecks my pig, then Cypress Hill steals my orchestra, and now Sonic Youth's in my cooler. Get out of there!

[absolutecrunk]

"Do ya FEEEL....do....do ya feel? Do ya feeel?"

[CellarGhosts]

Making teenagers depressed is like shooting fish in a barrel!

[Until The Bombs]

"Do ya FEEEL....do....do ya feel? Do ya feeel?"

Is this the first time you've changed your avatar?

[DaveZeroZero]

Making teenagers depressed is like shooting fish in a barrel!

By which you mean it's really fun?

[DaveZeroZero]

Is this the first time you've changed your avatar?

No, he's changed it at least once before. Something to do with hockey, I seem to remember.

[CellarGhosts]

By which you mean it's really fun?
By which I mean I'm quoting a classic Simpsons episode!

get with the program, Dave!


jkjk

[Until The Bombs]

No, he's changed it at least once before. Something to do with hockey, I seem to remember.

Pics or it didn't happen. Guess it could have been before I joined.

[DaveZeroZero]

By which I mean I'm quoting a classic Simpsons episode!

get with the program, Dave!


jkjk

Damn British TV for not showing the good episodes and merely countless reruns of episodes we've seen 100 times before!

[DaveZeroZero]

Pics or it didn't happen. Guess it could have been before I joined.

Not unless you joined within the last month and a half, which you didn't - that's not to say that it was a long-lived avatar though.

[absolutecrunk]

Is this the first time you've changed your avatar?
I usually change it when Detroit sports teams make the finals. I had Tayshaun Prince in June 05, Curtis Granderson in October 06, and then Steve Yzerman hoisting the Cup last month when the Wings won it.

Other than those 3 months, it's been 40 months of Kings of Crunk.

Edit: UNTIL NOW! But i'll change it back once kids start changing their avatars back

[CellarGhosts]

Damn British TV for not showing the good episodes and merely countless reruns of episodes we've seen 100 times before!
From my understanding British television is superior to American tv haha. I dunno how often it's shown over there anymore, but Monty Python's Flying Circus is one of my favorite shows ever and British humor in general is awesome haha.

[DaveZeroZero]

From my understanding British television is superior to American tv haha. I dunno how often it's shown over there anymore, but Monty Python's Flying Circus is one of my favorite shows ever and British humor in general is awesome haha.

Of course, being both British and American, I try to the blend the two forms of humor, which usually turns out as hilariously bad and immature failures of jokes =]

[CellarGhosts]

Of course, being both British and American, I try to the blend the two forms of humor, which usually turns out as hilariously bad and immature failures of jokes =]
Haha, gotcha.

and I dunno how representative of british humor they are but the movies Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead are two of my favorite movies haha.

[Until The Bombs]

I usually change it when Detroit sports teams make the finals. I had Tayshaun Prince in June 05, Curtis Granderson in October 06, and then Steve Yzerman hoisting the Cup last month when the Wings won it.

Other than those 3 months, it's been 40 months of Kings of Crunk.

Edit: UNTIL NOW! But i'll change it back once kids start changing their avatars back

Can't believe I didn't notice it.

[CellarGhosts]

American TV is shit. So many adverts. It's not without great shows though, The Sopranos for one.



Download them noob or get Sky you tightwad.
There are certianly a number of shows on over here that I enjoy (the Simpsons, Sorpanos being two of them), but there's so much horrible stuff, like all the mindless reality shows that start ripping off one another with all the networks competing for ratings and all that; that shit is no good.

[DaveZeroZero]

Haha, gotcha.

and I dunno how representative of british humor they are but the movies Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead are two of my favorite movies haha.

Hot Fuzz is very British. I should really get around to seeing that, actually.

[Until The Bombs]

I wish we had more than just BBC America here for British television. I can watch that channel all day, but it amounts to like 4 shows on repeat all day capped by the news at night.

[Until The Bombs]

Hot Fuzz is very British. I should really get around to seeing that, actually.

I own it, it's enjoyable, but it doesn't live up to the standard set by Shaun of the Dead.

[CellarGhosts]

Hot Fuzz is very British. I should really get around to seeing that, actually.
Haha, awesome. I can quote that movie to no end. definitely check it out some time.

[CellarGhosts]

I own it, it's enjoyable, but it doesn't live up to the standard set by Shaun of the Dead.
I feel like I'm the only person in the world who believes that Hot Fuzz is the better movie haha. I do enjoy both a lot, obviously, but something about Hot Fuzz I find more creative, funnier, wittier, I dunno...everything I guess. :shrug:

[Until The Bombs]

I feel like I'm the only person in the world who believes that Hot Fuzz is the better movie haha. I do enjoy both a lot, obviously, but something about Hot Fuzz I find more creative, funnier, wittier, I dunno...everything I guess. :shrug:

Oh man. I'll I guess it's just a case of different tastes. I thought Hot Fuzz aimed to be something greater than Shaun of the Dead did, but I didn't find it nearly as entertaining or funny. It also feels a little long every time I watch it. The idea is there, but it wasn't executed well enough.

[CellarGhosts]

Oh man. I'll I guess it's just a case of different tastes. I thought Hot Fuzz aimed to be something greater than Shaun of the Dead did, but I didn't find it nearly as entertaining or funny. It also feels a little long every time I watch it. The idea is there, but it wasn't executed well enough.
I think it does just boil down to this. I find both movies very entertaining, and while I see what you mean about Hot Fuzz seeming really long (it does feel that way), I just don't really have a problem with it. Plus I just like Pegg and Frost's characters better in it, a bit.

Either way, Shaun Of the Dead is certainly great too. I'm also looking forward to their next one, apparently titled "Paul".

[Anthony Lutz]

I use +44 instead of (+44) :shrug:

Same here

[Brokenhill]

Also contrary to A Fatal Goodbye's opinion, album titles are not underlined, book titles are.


Well it's my system. And i've never said it was "proper" or grammatically correct.

Artists are just capitalized...albums are underlined, and songs are italicized.

[Until The Bombs]

I think it does just boil down to this. I find both movies very entertaining, and while I see what you mean about Hot Fuzz seeming really long (it does feel that way), I just don't really have a problem with it. Plus I just like Pegg and Frost's characters better in it, a bit.

Either way, Shaun Of the Dead is certainly great too. I'm also looking forward to their next one, apparently titled "Paul".


Like wise, I don't mean to trash Hot Fuzz either, cause in the end I really enjoy it. I wasn't aware of Paul, I'm assuming there is no other information out there?


Edit: Found a synopsis.

Paul is about a pair of geeky British friends who travel to a comic-book convention on the West Coast; unlike their other films, this one has Mr. Frost as the dominant one and Mr. Pegg as the sidekick.

[Genuma]

Isn't Paul the TV series that he did? Or is that something completely different?

[CellarGhosts]

Isn't Paul the TV series that he did? Or is that something completely different?
Nah, that's "Spaced" that you're thinking of.

Like wise, I don't mean to trash Hot Fuzz either, cause in the end I really enjoy it. I wasn't aware of Paul, I'm assuming there is no other information out there?


Edit: Found a synopsis.
Yeah, that's the synopsis of it. I'm really looking forward to it.

As for "Run Fat Boy, Run", I never saw that one but it looked interesting just because Simon Pegg and Dylan Moran were in it. However it got bad reviews so I kind of steered clear.

[SLoT]

MxPx, NoFX

[11:11]

It's Blink-182, not Blink 182. I hate when people fuck it up.

[BrokenMirror]

I just write In/Casino/Out.
mewithoutYou is correct.
Arcade Fire, not THE Arcade Fire, but THE Mars Volta, not Mars Volta
Godspeed You Black Emperor! I know they changed it, but fuck it, I prefer this. Incidentally, their first LP is spelt on my iTunes as F♯A♯∞ (Infinity).
And fuck people who write glassJAw.
A.F.I. It stands for something, so it's correct to have full stops seperate them.
Definitely use ampersands. Coheed & Cambria just looks so much nicer.

[DaveZeroZero]

It's Blink-182, not Blink 182. I hate when people fuck it up.

Actually, it's blink-182. There's no capitalization of the b.

[Pluto.]

It's, ...And You will Know Us by the Trail of the Dead. Those three ...'s are important!

[Neo Cassady]

Also contrary to A Fatal Goodbye's opinion, album titles are not underlined, book titles are.

False. Song titles go in quotation marks, album titles are underlined/italicized. Similar to poems within a book of poems.

[eHaMpToN]

MxPx, NoFX

isnt it NOFX

[versus_god]

Italicize album titles, song titles in quotations.

[eHaMpToN]

It's, ...And You will Know Us by the Trail of the Dead. Those three ...'s are important!

its called an ellipsis

[versus_god]

isnt it NOFX
Yes.

[eHaMpToN]

thought so.

[versus_god]

Todd: Technical question. NoFX or NOFX?
Fat Mike: All big. That was a Doug Moody thing and some how we got a small "o" being on Mystic.
There.

[Roboman]

I hate how iTunes ignores the article in a band name. The article is part of the band name, and should be included in alphabetisation. They're not Beatles, they're The Beatles. I don't want to find A Perfect Circle in the "P" section when their full name, specifically chosen by the band members, was "A Perfect Circle". It's an atrocity.

No. Articles are not included in alphabetization, they just aren't. Nevertheless, the "A" I can kind of agree with, but all bands beginning with "The" should not be grouped together.

[Pluto.]

its called an ellipsis

Gotcha!

[tD77]

This one is obscure but here goes...

Paris, Texas or Paris Texas ?

[underthetalking]

.moneen.

[Carlo Marx]

mc chris

[hockeyguitar99]

I know everyone knows this but the Itunes database things has New Found Glory as A New Found Glory

[wewascontenders]

I know everyone knows this but the Itunes database things has New Found Glory as A New Found Glory

No it doesn't.

[hockeyguitar99]

No it doesn't.

Thats the way it works on mine.

[hockeyguitar99]

also, is i've seen this three different ways

Play!Radio!Play!
PlayRadioPlay!
Playradioplay!

which one?

[theguy77]

northbrook

i think i want my band's name to always be lowercase, because i never capitalize anything unless i have to so that draws a sentimental connection to my character.

[Genuma]

Nah, that's "Spaced" that you're thinking of.


Yeah, that's the synopsis of it. I'm really looking forward to it.

As for "Run Fat Boy, Run", I never saw that one but it looked interesting just because Simon Pegg and Dylan Moran were in it. However it got bad reviews so I kind of steered clear.
Ohh, I still need to see that.

[Genuma]

I know everyone knows this but the Itunes database things has New Found Glory as A New Found Glory
They used to be called that. And that's probably in your iTunes database, genius.

[hockeyguitar99]

They used to be called that. And that's probably in your iTunes database, genius.

I know thats what they used to be called, but if I were to put in a new found glory cd, it would check the online database and come up with A New Found Glory.

[CellarGhosts]

Ohh, I still need to see that.
I've seen one episode before, it's pretty funny. didn't make me laugh as much as Shaun of the Dead or Hot Fuzz did but still funny.

[chipdip18]

I never saw Shaun of the Dead

[CellarGhosts]

:jawdrop:

get on that!

[11:11]

Actually, it's blink-182. There's no capitalization of the b.
hahaha, i didnt even realize i did that. looks like im a hypocrite.

[Anthony Lutz]

hahaha, i didnt even realize i did that. looks like im a hypocrite.

Yeah, I capitalize the 'b' even though it's not right.

:shrug:

[Anthony Lutz]

I never saw Shaun of the Dead

Not to rain on the parade, but I hated this movie... Maybe it's just me and British humor, but I'm just not one to find it funny. However, I do love a good zombie flick!

[Genuma]

I've seen one episode before, it's pretty funny. didn't make me laugh as much as Shaun of the Dead or Hot Fuzz did but still funny.
Well, I'm out of shows to watch so I'll probably get it. You ever seen Wonder Falls?
I know thats what they used to be called, but if I were to put in a new found glory cd, it would check the online database and come up with A New Found Glory.
There's your problem.

[DaveZeroZero]

hahaha, i didnt even realize i did that. looks like im a hypocrite.

Haha, aren't we all, sometimes? =]

[Anthony Lutz]

MxPx, NoFX

I capitalize both MXPX and NOFX, that's just me though.

[CellarGhosts]

Well, I'm out of shows to watch so I'll probably get it. You ever seen Wonder Falls?

There's your problem.
Nah, I've never seen Wonder Falls but I assume it's good?

[chipdip18]

Is it Boxcar Racer or Box Car Racer?

[Neo Cassady]

Is it Boxcar Racer or Box Car Racer?

Boxcar

edit: at least that's what it looks like it says on the CD. Wikipedia begs to differ.

[chipdip18]

Boxcar

edit: at least that's what it looks like it says on the CD. Wikipedia begs to differ.


Well i like Boxcar better anyway.

[micahistheballs]

I just write In/Casino/Out.
mewithoutYou is correct.
Arcade Fire, not THE Arcade Fire, but THE Mars Volta, not Mars Volta
Godspeed You Black Emperor! I know they changed it, but fuck it, I prefer this. Incidentally, their first LP is spelt on my iTunes as F♯A♯∞ (Infinity).
And fuck people who write glassJAw.
A.F.I. It stands for something, so it's correct to have full stops seperate them.
Definitely use ampersands. Coheed & Cambria just looks so much nicer.
I have The Arcade Fire and I'm not about to mess up my iTunes now.

[Anthony Lutz]

I have The Arcade Fire and I'm not about to mess up my iTunes now.

I've had The Arcade Fire ever since I added them to my iTunes, and it too is staying that way.

[Anthony Lutz]

What about this:

Album Leaf or The Album Leaf

[CellarGhosts]

I just added both of the Alchemy Index albums to my iTunes and the second volume was marked as "The Alchemy Index Vol. III And IV" instead of "The Alchemy Index Vol. III & IV". It bugged me so I had to change it right away hah.

[BrokenMirror]

I've just got the Alchemy Index on my iTunes as The Alchemy Index. I don't really listen to the EP's seperately anymore, so I decided just to make it one complete album.

[Praetor]

What about this:

Album Leaf or The Album Leaf
The

[CellarGhosts]

I've just got the Alchemy Index on my iTunes as The Alchemy Index. I don't really listen to the EP's seperately anymore, so I decided just to make it one complete album.
Yeah, I might just do the same thing.

[SLoT]

There.

Well then. Showed me. My B.

[stayillogical]

I've just got the Alchemy Index on my iTunes as The Alchemy Index. I don't really listen to the EP's seperately anymore, so I decided just to make it one complete album.

Good thinking. I just might do this.

[bobby runs]

I do capital letters in the first letter of every word

[anonymousgirl]

No way, The Smashing Pumpkins is better.

agreed. The Smashing Pumpkins sounds so much cooler.

Billy said it's The Smashing Pumpkins, but I prefer to say it without 'the'.

Oh and to add to the discussion up there; it sounds really awkward, and probably grammatically incorrect, to say "I'm going to buy the new the Smashing Pumpkins album"

In such cases, "the" has to be eliminated.

why?


I always wondered if it's Flobots or THE Flobots.

[ACA]

Until iTunes fixes their shitty software ("A Perfect Circle" belongs under "A", not "P"; "50 Cent" belongs at the top before "A", not at the bottom after "Z"; etc) I'll be using the old version that is fixed.

Fucking iTunes. If I upgrade to the 160, though, I have a feeling I'll have to use the new broke software :(

-ACA

[Anthony Lutz]

Until iTunes fixes their shitty software ("A Perfect Circle" belongs under "A", not "P"; "50 Cent" belongs at the top before "A", not at the bottom after "Z"; etc) I'll be using the old version that is fixed.

Fucking iTunes. If I upgrade to the 160, though, I have a feeling I'll have to use the new broke software :(

-ACA

I can see why that could get annoying, with some aspects, but I can also see the reasoning as to bands like A Perfect Circle would show up in the "a's". I like having the number bands show up after the z's though, I think that makes it easier to find them, that's just my opinion though. Also, if you go under options, you can go to "sorting" and pick which letter you want to use when searching for any given band.

[CellarGhosts]

I don't mind the new software for iTunes :shrug:

not a big deal to me really.

[hockeyguitar99]

Yeah, I might just do the same thing.

I did that, but it was a huge pain in the ass.

[Brokenhill]

agreed. The Smashing Pumpkins sounds so much cooler.





why?


I always wondered if it's Flobots or THE Flobots.

Indeed.

[kigginsthisprov]

I like it when Meg & Dia has the "&" and Tegan And Sara don't have the "&"

[bobby runs]

Until iTunes fixes their shitty software ("A Perfect Circle" belongs under "A", not "P"; "50 Cent" belongs at the top before "A", not at the bottom after "Z"; etc) I'll be using the old version that is fixed.

Fucking iTunes. If I upgrade to the 160, though, I have a feeling I'll have to use the new broke software :(

-ACA
I remember that change too. I specifically labeled NFG as A New Found Glory so tey would be up top but now it's not like that anymore. Then there's the fact that I think number belong before letters

[Genuma]

Nah, I've never seen Wonder Falls but I assume it's good?
Yeah, it's by the guy who made Pushing Daisies

[theguy77]

Until iTunes fixes their shitty software ("A Perfect Circle" belongs under "A", not "P"; "50 Cent" belongs at the top before "A", not at the bottom after "Z"; etc) I'll be using the old version that is fixed.

Fucking iTunes. If I upgrade to the 160, though, I have a feeling I'll have to use the new broke software :(

-ACA

if the band's name begins with the word "A" it should be put with the A's, i agree. however, bands starting with "the", should be alphabetized based on the following word.

[ACA]

Then there's the fact that I think number belong before letters

It isn't even opinion. It's FACT. When sorting, numbers belong before letters. Why Apple decided that they will make their own unique sorting method that is completely contradictory to every other database in history boggles my mind.

Sorting may even be an ISO standard, I have no idea.

-ACA

[wewascontenders]

My iPod refuses to agree with the way I organize my music in iTunes and it's really starting to frustrate me.

[theguy77]

My iPod refuses to agree with the way I organize my music in iTunes and it's really starting to frustrate me.

my itunes refuses to agree with the way i organize my music in my computer folders and thats always fucking frustrated me. i like windows media player better because it actually puts the album cover image on the folder of the album, and when i move something it doesnt just stubbornly move it back whenever i play it. it doesnt keep remaking folders im trying to delete either; every time i get a miscellaneous song from a band, like say a b-side on a single, i like to put it in a miscellaneous folder. but nooo itunes has to make a new folder for every fucking one. i got itunes on my desktop cause all my friends were telling me it was better and sending me fucking m4a files whenever they wanted to share music, and ive hated it since i downloaded it. i never bothered on my laptop, im choosing windows' superior aesthetics over apple's supposed "efficiency", the same way i do when choosing computers. fuck, the layout and visualizers are so much better on WMP as well. and far more customizable.

[wewascontenders]

For the longest time my computer was fucked so I was stuck with some ancient version of WMP so I began to use iTunes. At this point though I'm just to lazy to try and move everything over. I guess until it just pisses me off to the point where I can't take it, I 'll just keep using it.

[chipdip18]

my itunes refuses to agree with the way i organize my music in my computer folders and thats always fucking frustrated me. i like windows media player better because it actually puts the album cover image on the folder of the album, and when i move something it doesnt just stubbornly move it back whenever i play it. it doesnt keep remaking folders im trying to delete either; every time i get a miscellaneous song from a band, like say a b-side on a single, i like to put it in a miscellaneous folder. but nooo itunes has to make a new folder for every fucking one. i got itunes on my desktop cause all my friends were telling me it was better and sending me fucking m4a files whenever they wanted to share music, and ive hated it since i downloaded it. i never bothered on my laptop, im choosing windows' superior aesthetics over apple's supposed "efficiency", the same way i do when choosing computers. fuck, the layout and visualizers are so much better on WMP as well. and far more customizable.


Yes! I love using WMP so much more.

[Klatzke]

agreed. The Smashing Pumpkins sounds so much cooler.





why?


I always wondered if it's Flobots or THE Flobots.
It's just Flobots.

[anonymousgirl]

It's just Flobots.


that's what the majority of sites say. and what my newspaper said when they came here like last month.

[hydraulicheart]

After researching a bit, more signs point to the ampersand. Just wish last.fm users would follow suit. Its roughly 130k to 30k with the former using "and" and the latter using "&."

Edit: They use both on their clothing. How irritating.
I use 'and' since that's what they use on their MySpace name.

[clichedtragedyy]

It irritates me very much when my artist names are not spelled right for some reason and then they end up on last.fm like that. Mmm. Also, when bands have a different way of writing their name on MySpace and such? Agh.

And lol, is it MAE or mae or Mae? Honestly, I have no clue anymore because I found out that it stood for something.