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thespearkid
07/09/08, 11:23 PM
Goddamnit, *insert band name here*, I paid $10 for your CD and I expect all 12 tracks to be serious attempts at a song. That 60 second "Prologue" at the beginning of the record isn't a song; it's just noise. No one who listens to that track thinks, "Wow, *insert band name here* must be a really deep and intellectual group of guys!". They're all thinking, "Wow, what a pretentious group of assholes."
Are their actually any good prologue type tracks?
wewascontenders
07/09/08, 11:26 PM
I enjoy the last two tracks off of Aggression.
Bob Payne
07/09/08, 11:33 PM
"Armageddon" by Midtown on Forget What You Know. Great lead in to "To Our Savior."
absolutecrunk
07/10/08, 12:37 AM
Really, Muse? You couldn't have made Apocalypse Please just like 6 minutes? There isn't even anything IN the intro. Just silence followed by militant marching!
thespearkid
07/10/08, 01:01 AM
If the intro's actually served the purpose an intro is supposed to, I wouldn't even mind them that much.
heyzombiehitler
07/10/08, 01:17 AM
Really, Muse? You couldn't have made Apocalypse Please just like 6 minutes? There isn't even anything IN the intro. Just silence followed by militant marching!
Good example. Gold star and handjob ur way.
thesafeword
07/10/08, 01:36 AM
Intro by CTTS, I think that it's pretty cool. And stop your bitching.
Klatzke
07/10/08, 09:38 AM
Most of them are pointless. But Far-Less' new album has some that serve a purpose.
hockeyguitar99
07/10/08, 09:41 AM
the graduate has an interlude on their album that i love, it doesn't serve much of a purpose, but it sounds really good.
SubrosaSeductiv
07/10/08, 09:46 AM
Goddamnit, *insert band name here*, I paid $10 for your CD and I expect all 12 tracks to be serious attempts at a song. That 60 second "Prologue" at the beginning of the record isn't a song; it's just noise. No one who listens to that track thinks, "Wow, *insert band name here* must be a really deep and intellectual group of guys!". They're all thinking, "Wow, what a pretentious group of assholes."
Are their actually any good prologue type tracks?
Well I love the prologue and epilogue off of TREOS's first album.
CellarGhosts
07/10/08, 09:49 AM
"Intro (The Ramblin' Boys Of Pleasure Sing the Hobo Clown Chorus)" on The Lawrence Arms' Greatest Story Ever Told and "Outro (Hobo Reprise)" from the same album both open and close the album really well.
And there's more but I don't feel like going into anymore detail as I feel this is a pretty minute topic and something stupid to get worked up over.
thespearkid
07/10/08, 09:59 AM
Well I love the prologue and epilogue off of TREOS's first album.
Oddly enough, it was the TREOS intro that inspired me to start the thread.
i enjoy the intro on hopesfall - satellite years... it makes me think that thats how theyd open a show. if they were still a band
musicfiend
07/10/08, 10:07 AM
"Armageddon" by Midtown on Forget What You Know. Great lead in to "To Our Savior."
Well I love the prologue and epilogue off of TREOS's first album.
I like these two a lot. I think it ties the album together very well in both cases.
chipdip18
07/10/08, 10:27 AM
Goddamnit, *insert band name here*, I paid $10 for your CD and I expect all 12 tracks to be serious attempts at a song. That 60 second "Prologue" at the beginning of the record isn't a song; it's just noise. No one who listens to that track thinks, "Wow, *insert band name here* must be a really deep and intellectual group of guys!". They're all thinking, "Wow, what a pretentious group of assholes."
Are their actually any good prologue type tracks?
"Armageddon" by Midtown on Forget What You Know. Great lead in to "To Our Savior."
I'm pretty sure this is what those minute or so long opening tracks are for. Brand New's Tatou on Deja does this, and there are countless others. I don't think the point of them to act more superior or more "Artful". I think it's to set the mood for the album, or the next song.
Chromefox
07/10/08, 10:37 AM
I've always sort of considered Tautou to be an introduction track.
thespearkid
07/10/08, 11:26 AM
I'm pretty sure this is what those minute or so long opening tracks are for. Brand New's Tatou on Deja does this, and there are countless others. I don't think the point of them to act more superior or more "Artful". I think it's to set the mood for the album, or the next song.
I don't see the point of having it as a seperate track though. Just seems silly to me.
chipdip18
07/10/08, 11:32 AM
I don't see the point of having it as a seperate track though. Just seems silly to me.
I get your point. I mean in some cases i think it would make sense, like someone mentioned with Muse. It depends is its more of a soundclip or more of a song. Tatou is more of a song, so it would make sense to have it as a seperate track. The miliant marching is more of a soundclip, and it would make sense to include it in the song. However, i think the artists may have made those a seperate track so you can skip them and start with the song, as opposed to having to fast forward to where the song begins.
pilot_light_out
07/10/08, 11:33 AM
And the record begins with a song of rebellion....
Oddly enough, it was the TREOS intro that inspired me to start the thread.
Yeah the beginning and end of the album are filler but it was a good call because 12 full length songs would have made that record unnecessarily tedious. There is no other break all the other songs are 4+ minutes. It's dense enough already.
The only thing that is annoying about prologues is when there aren't that many songs, but as long as there are 8-10 other solid songs it doesn't bother me.
chipdip18
07/10/08, 11:44 AM
Yeah the beginning and end of the album are filler but it was a good call because 12 full length songs would have made that record unnecessarily tedious. There is no other break all the other songs are 4+ minutes. It's dense enough already.
The only thing that is annoying about prologues is when there aren't that many songs, but as long as there are 8-10 other solid songs it doesn't bother me.
Yeah i agree.
thespearkid
07/10/08, 12:01 PM
Yeah the beginning and end of the album are filler but it was a good call because 12 full length songs would have made that record unnecessarily tedious. There is no other break all the other songs are 4+ minutes. It's dense enough already.
I get where you're coming from with that.
One album where this does bother me a little is Opeth's "My Arms, Your Hearse"...out of the 9 songs, one is a prologue, one an epilogue, and one a 1 minute instrumental...the album is great since the remaining 6 songs are excellent, but I would have liked to see 1 more full length to push the album to the familiar 1 hour mark of an Opeth album.
I get where you're coming from with that.
Even if the track isn't that great itself, sometimes it is about the break it provides or the mood it leads in to. Great instrumental tracks are always appreciated though.
allhourcymbals
07/10/08, 01:07 PM
only because i just reviewed this, the intro to no doubt's rock steady is the most pointless track they've ever put on an album. it could have been a great song and not just an intro, but seeing as how the entire album was rushed, it makes sense that they'd take the easy way out.
Klatzke
07/11/08, 06:45 AM
Sometimes they're good, i guess. Like on Narrow Stairs... A bunch of people hate the piano intro to "I Will Possess Your Heart".. I think it's good, and wouldn't want it as a separate track, but i'm sure there are people who would.
thespearkid
07/11/08, 09:09 AM
Sometimes they're good, i guess. Like on Narrow Stairs... A bunch of people hate the piano intro to "I Will Possess Your Heart".. I think it's good, and wouldn't want it as a separate track, but i'm sure there are people who would.
That was another example of what I was thinking of. That intro works really well and if it were a seperate track, what would it have actually accomplished except for being skipped on most listens? Also, most Cloud Cult songs have really nice entrances that are major parts of the song but separating them into different tracks makes them seem like separate works and kind of loses the effect of the intro.
For most albums, I don't even put Prologue type tracks on my ipod.
level8loser
07/11/08, 09:25 AM
some bands use prologues to help express what they feel to be the theme of the album, and help set the stage aesthetically. perfect example: Dillinger Four's "Situationist Comedy." At the beginning of "Noble Stabbings!!!" and again at the end of the record, you hear static. It kind of gives the album a feel like its being played on some sort of underground pirate radio station. its perfect.
so, while i understand why it may seem like a wasted track, some bands are willing to do that if it helps them create the atmosphere they are trying to put the listener in before they showcase their songs.
ReadyForAction
07/11/08, 11:44 AM
What about SYG, does "Dead Men.". count as an intro?
makeasound
07/11/08, 01:07 PM
Some are good, like the intro on Over It's Silverstrand record. It's there to set up the feel and theme of the record, and does a good job.
An example of a band who has done a good intro and a pointless intro would be Linkin Park.
"Wake" on Minutes to Midnight, to me, is a decent track and gives fans a bit of the direction-change the album was from their earlier material, and also provided a pretty solid way to open their set at Projekt: Revolution.
The intro to Meteora, however, is 15 seconds of rain and thunder. What the Hell was the point in that? The record stands pretty well without it, or they could have just tacked the sound effect onto the opening to "Don't Stay".
Whimsikill
07/11/08, 01:56 PM
Some prologue tracks do suck, but a few I like:
Debut-Anberlin
Public Service Announcement 2000-Eminem
742617000027-Slipknot
Intro-Sum 41 (off of Chuck)
Churchill's speech-Iron Maiden off of Live After Death
The Reaping-Coheed
Angylion Gefell
07/11/08, 02:18 PM
Miseria Cantare is the only one that I know of.
Mirrorsandfevers
07/11/08, 02:37 PM
I always really liked Time Code
alltimecam
07/11/08, 02:48 PM
not a prologue but the intermission on anedhonia which is a prologue like track is awesome
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