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Jamison Kane
05/13/04, 05:55 PM
I wrote a review (http://forum.absolutepunk.net/reviews/showproduct.php?product=298) of Sigur Ros' new EP, Ba Ba Ti Ki Di Do.

I am the scene
05/13/04, 05:59 PM
you're probobly 16 and don't understand what good music is. Senses fail roxers

boysdontcry
05/13/04, 06:04 PM
senses fail does not "roxers."

sigur ros is a GREAT band. their album "( )" is amazing. i haven't heard this though so it could suck. whatever. it's a soundtrack EP. i don't care if it does.

Jamison Kane
05/13/04, 06:05 PM
you're probobly 16 and don't understand what good music is. Senses fail roxers
Actually, I'm 17 and don't understand what good music is.

*Cough cough* So how's that latte? *Cough*

boysdontcry
05/13/04, 06:14 PM
:ahem: it's actually an orange mocha frappachino.

halfpricepizza
05/13/04, 06:22 PM
Agaetis Byrjun and ( ) are swell albums. Its an experience to close your door, turn off the lights, and lay and listen. (mind altering substances are used at the discretion of the listener) Yet, this cd is pretentious noise. i agree Jamison. They can create beautiful music, or they can create crap.

boysdontcry
05/13/04, 06:34 PM
i used to do a lot of drugs (not anymore :lol2:) and once i came home from a friends house and i was tripping on acid. i went in my room, locked the door, turned out the lights, and listened to sigur ros. i cried for about 2 hours. haha.

Fox Mulder
05/13/04, 09:18 PM
Actually, I'm 17 and don't understand what good music is.

*Cough cough* So how's that latte? *Cough*

This coming from the guy that was too elitist to show a little respect to NFG after they took the time out to do an interview for you?

Jbillsbass
05/13/04, 09:58 PM
I know it was mentioned that this is soundtrack, but just to expound... don't expect it to be much more than noise, because all this was meant to be is the music to Merce Cunningham's dance project split sides, so don't immediately write it off as extremely pretentious...

foreverfallen
05/13/04, 10:21 PM
Couple of things Jamison:

One, this was an awful review. I mean awful. I don't care what you gave it as a score; this was an terribly written review in which you say nothing about the music whatsoever.

Two, you presuppose things about music that show you really don't know anything about music. And I'm not talking about sipping lattes in a coffee shop; I mean understanding a philosophy of music and also musical theory (the former be far more important here). You presuppose "noise" is a bad thing. Go listen to Masonna (I'm serious). That is noise. That will probably cause a visceral experience like you've never had in music before. Why? Because it cannot be conceptualized immediately like you want it to (identity-thinking), so it presents you with a real experience. THAT is the purpose of "noise" and that is why avant-garde music is so visceral and intense; it's a SOUND experience, not a conceptualization or experience of lyrics or traditionality. Before you presuppose "noise" is bad, listen to Masonna (do it) and try to wrap your mind around it (there's lots of stuff you could read of things like this, but I'll spare you).

Thirdly, although I have not heard this as of yet (I will tonight anyways), I doubt it is indeed noise; I also doubt that it lacks melody, which leads me to believe you don't know what you're talking about. And vocals are not necessary in music; in fact, they make a lot of music absolute garbage, but moving on....

Fourth, the fact that you don't get it may be the best thing ever for you. Listen to it again and think about that.

Fifth, this has little to do with the the actual music here in particular, so spare me the "you must love Sigur Ros" stuff. You could also call me "infantile" (obviously I'm not) and a "self-absorbed elitist" (I read philosopical works, including ones about music...go figure, reading makes you learn stuff) but that doesn't change any of it.

halfpricepizza
05/13/04, 10:59 PM
Couple of things Jamison:

One, this was an awful review. I mean awful. I don't care what you gave it as a score; this was an terribly written review in which you say nothing about the music whatsoever.

Two, you presuppose things about music that show you really don't know anything about music. And I'm not talking about sipping lattes in a coffee shop; I mean understanding a philosophy of music and also musical theory (the former be far more important here). You presuppose "noise" is a bad thing. Go listen to Masonna (I'm serious). That is noise. That will probably cause a visceral experience like you've never had in music before. Why? Because it cannot be conceptualized immediately like you want it to (identity-thinking), so it presents you with a real experience. THAT is the purpose of "noise" and that is why avant-garde music is so visceral and intense; it's a SOUND experience, not a conceptualization or experience of lyrics or traditionality. Before you presuppose "noise" is bad, listen to Masonna (do it) and try to wrap your mind around it (there's lots of stuff you could read of things like this, but I'll spare you).

Thirdly, although I have not heard this as of yet (I will tonight anyways), I doubt it is indeed noise; I also doubt that it lacks melody, which leads me to believe you don't know what you're talking about. And vocals are not necessary in music; in fact, they make a lot of music absolute garbage, but moving on....

Fourth, the fact that you don't get it may be the best thing ever for you. Listen to it again and think about that.

Fifth, this has little to do with the the actual music here in particular, so spare me the "you must love Sigur Ros" stuff. You could also call me "infantile" (obviously I'm not) and a "self-absorbed elitist" (I read philosopical works, including ones about music...go figure, reading makes you learn stuff) but that doesn't change any of it.

pitchfork is always an option for you. Go talk about Masonna, Mogwai, and Sigur Ros there. They'll appreciate it more.

foreverfallen
05/13/04, 11:19 PM
pitchfork is always an option for you. Go talk about Masonna, Mogwai, and Sigur Ros there. They'll appreciate it more.

I'll thank you to not even place Masonna in the same catagory as the other two since they aren't in the same dimension. I'm much less a pitchfork guy than a punknews.org guy. As much as I love pop-punk and screamo, you know, I'd rather listen to something a little deeper most of the time. That doesn't mean I listen to all this indie stuff though. I'd prefer Dillinger Escape Plan or ETID to that anyday.

halfpricepizza
05/13/04, 11:54 PM
I'll thank you to not even place Masonna in the same catagory as the other two since they aren't in the same dimension. I'm much less a pitchfork guy than a punknews.org guy. As much as I love pop-punk and screamo, you know, I'd rather listen to something a little deeper most of the time. That doesn't mean I listen to all this indie stuff though. I'd prefer Dillinger Escape Plan or ETID to that anyday.

Alright, ETID. Now we're talking. We've found common ground. If only it were this easy in politics.

sealed
05/14/04, 03:39 AM
16 year old drug use oi oi oi!!!11

nfg24
05/14/04, 06:53 AM
jamison, you should stick to reviewing punk and rock records, not sigur ros, you close minded "aspiring writer"...good luck with that

Thomas Sway
05/14/04, 09:40 AM
jamison, you should stick to reviewing punk and rock records, not sigur ros, you close minded "aspiring writer"...good luck with that

"nfg24" would be one to know.

Jamison Kane
05/14/04, 10:39 AM
Couple of things Jamison:

One, this was an awful review. I mean awful. I don't care what you gave it as a score; this was an terribly written review in which you say nothing about the music whatsoever.

Two, you presuppose things about music that show you really don't know anything about music. And I'm not talking about sipping lattes in a coffee shop; I mean understanding a philosophy of music and also musical theory (the former be far more important here). You presuppose "noise" is a bad thing. Go listen to Masonna (I'm serious). That is noise. That will probably cause a visceral experience like you've never had in music before. Why? Because it cannot be conceptualized immediately like you want it to (identity-thinking), so it presents you with a real experience. THAT is the purpose of "noise" and that is why avant-garde music is so visceral and intense; it's a SOUND experience, not a conceptualization or experience of lyrics or traditionality. Before you presuppose "noise" is bad, listen to Masonna (do it) and try to wrap your mind around it (there's lots of stuff you could read of things like this, but I'll spare you).

Thirdly, although I have not heard this as of yet (I will tonight anyways), I doubt it is indeed noise; I also doubt that it lacks melody, which leads me to believe you don't know what you're talking about. And vocals are not necessary in music; in fact, they make a lot of music absolute garbage, but moving on....

Fourth, the fact that you don't get it may be the best thing ever for you. Listen to it again and think about that.

Fifth, this has little to do with the the actual music here in particular, so spare me the "you must love Sigur Ros" stuff. You could also call me "infantile" (obviously I'm not) and a "self-absorbed elitist" (I read philosopical works, including ones about music...go figure, reading makes you learn stuff) but that doesn't change any of it.

I am not entirely sure where to begin here.

First, writing me a five paragraph essay because I didn't like an record is ridiculous. You are not going to bully me into thinking that the music I listen to it in any way inferior to whatever you listen to. You could spout off band names all day to convey your vast and arrayed taste, but in the end, it's all preference. I didn't like this record. Just because I dislike a record doesn't mean that I have no "philosophy of music." It means I didn't like a record. That's all. Saying otherwise makes you a fool.

Second, I think my review was very well written. I conveyed what I thought about the record in an entertaining manner, which is exactly what I intended to do. If you don't agree, I'm sorry. However, you are not obligated to read any of my future reviews. In fact, I would encourage you not to.

I think that's all I have to say. I'll add more if I think of it.

Frank Giaramita
05/14/04, 11:44 AM
you're probobly 16 and don't understand what good music is. Senses fail roxers

people complain and bitch "you guys over hype albums and praise every cd you review, its ridiculous" but when someone finally breaks custom, you bitch about that as well

Frank Giaramita
05/14/04, 11:50 AM
jamison, you should stick to reviewing punk and rock records, not sigur ros, you close minded "aspiring writer"...good luck with that

he's close minded bc he doesn tlike this cd? People can't help liking or disliking a certian type of music, its not like he chose to hate this album in anyway. And I had no idea a persons mind could be based solely on their taste or distaste for this cd. Even if jamison is close-minded, it makes you close-minded for failing to open your mind to close-minded people.

nfg24
05/14/04, 12:48 PM
"nfg24" would be one to know.


I chose that name about three years ago. I listen to NFG, I'll admit it. I also listen to non-punk music, like Sigur Ros. Basically, the point is that absolutepunk.net shouldn't touch Sigur Ros with a ten foot pole. Jamison, you just can't apply the same principles of listening to your beloved favorites such as Beck and Death Cab as you do for Sigur Ros. But I'm sure if you were to ask Beck, he would love everything Sigur Ros puts out there.