Tony Snow - 1955-2008 RIP

[TJ Wells]

Didn't know a lot about the guy, but he seemed like a genuine good one whenever I saw him on The Daily Show.

RIP sir.

[Machu505]

Tony Snow died? Damn. I always saw him as one of the better people in the Bush administration.

[captainhampton]

RIP, he was a real good guy.

[Mitch]

So it goes.

[BruisedxBroken]

I didn't agree with his politics, but the dude was loyal to his adminstration(s) and I throughly enjoyed his interview with Jon Stewart. RIP...

[saysmydoctor]

Sad, he was an amazing journalist. He spoke his mind and wasn't forceful with his politics. I may have disagreed with him but he was the best journalist on staff at Fox News.

[open mind]

even though he was a total dirtbag for pimping the horrible policies of the bush administration it's to bad he died.

[shit stroll]

even though he was a total dirtbag for pimping the horrible policies of the bush administration it's to bad he died.
this.

[atticusfinch]

That's two well respected journalists this year to go to soon. So sad.

[phaedrus]

Give me a break, this guy has done nothing to deserve an RIP thread, none of you knew him, all he ever did was lie to you. Yeah if you were one of his loved ones then it would be really sad, but no one here is (feel free to correct me if so). I'm not saying he was a bad person in his personal life, he might have been a very loving son and father and husband much like the other thousands of loving sons and fathers and husbands that died today and everyday, but in his career he acted solely out of interest to republican party politics. This is no loss for the public at large, and I don't get why anyone would act like it is

[TJ Wells]

Give me a break, this guy has done nothing to deserve an RIP thread, none of you knew him, all he ever did was lie to you. Yeah if you were one of his loved ones then it would be really sad, but no one here is (feel free to correct me if so). I'm not saying he was a bad person in his personal life, he might have been a very loving son and father and husband much like the other thousands of loving sons and fathers and husbands that died today and everyday, but in his career he acted solely out of interest to republican party politics. This is no loss for the public at large, and I don't get why anyone would act like it is
Dumb fuck.

[doubletrue]

Give me a break, this guy has done nothing to deserve an RIP thread, none of you knew him, all he ever did was lie to you. Yeah if you were one of his loved ones then it would be really sad, but no one here is (feel free to correct me if so). I'm not saying he was a bad person in his personal life, he might have been a very loving son and father and husband much like the other thousands of loving sons and fathers and husbands that died today and everyday, but in his career he acted solely out of interest to republican party politics. This is no loss for the public at large, and I don't get why anyone would act like it is

get over yourself and give this man some respect. of course he acted out of the interest of the republican party, well that's because he was a republican! what he did for conservative republicans is similar to what tim russert did for moderate democrats. he was a genuine news journalist and seemed like a genuine guy...and that's what is desperately missed in today's media. and there is loss for the public at large, being that his political views are similar to a very large percentage of americans...maybe not yours, but don't speak for everyone.

[mattybobviously]

He worked for both an administration and corporation that I absolutely detest, so no I'm not affected by his death at all. It's never good for anyone to die, but his death is a non-issue to me.

[TJ Wells]

get over yourself and give this man some respect. of course he acted out of the interest of the republican party, well that's because he was a republican! what he did for conservative republicans is similar to what tim russert did for moderate democrats. he was a genuine news journalist and seemed like a genuine guy...and that's what is desperately missed in today's media. and there is loss for the public at large, being that his political views are similar to a very large percentage of americans...maybe not yours, but don't speak for everyone.
Thank you. "Dumb fuck" was the most eloquent I could be at the moment.

[BruisedxBroken]

Give me a break, this guy has done nothing to deserve an RIP thread, none of you knew him, all he ever did was lie to you. Yeah if you were one of his loved ones then it would be really sad, but no one here is (feel free to correct me if so). I'm not saying he was a bad person in his personal life, he might have been a very loving son and father and husband much like the other thousands of loving sons and fathers and husbands that died today and everyday, but in his career he acted solely out of interest to republican party politics. This is no loss for the public at large, and I don't get why anyone would act like it is

I love controversy, but I'll have to pass on this one and disagree...

I personally did not agree with Snow's politics. And yes, he probably spun republican lies in the interest of protecting his administration, to which he was loyal in the utmost way. BUT, to discount his death on that basis alone wouldn't be fair to his family or the thousands of people who's lives he touched in one way or another. This was a man who served as press secratery to president of the united states, and to say that he isn't deserving of three simple letters in memoriam is bullshit...

[saysmydoctor]

Give me a break, this guy has done nothing to deserve an RIP thread, none of you knew him, all he ever did was lie to you. Yeah if you were one of his loved ones then it would be really sad, but no one here is (feel free to correct me if so). I'm not saying he was a bad person in his personal life, he might have been a very loving son and father and husband much like the other thousands of loving sons and fathers and husbands that died today and everyday, but in his career he acted solely out of interest to republican party politics. This is no loss for the public at large, and I don't get why anyone would act like it is
K.

[Broken Parachute]

So it goes.Poo-tee-weet?

[saysmydoctor]

At least he was honest and articulate. Considering who he worked for...that's saying something.

[WhoSaidThat?]

At least he was honest and articulate. Considering who he worked for...that's saying something.
True.

R.I.P. Tony Snow.

[phaedrus]

get over yourself and give this man some respect. of course he acted out of the interest of the republican party, well that's because he was a republican! what he did for conservative republicans is similar to what tim russert did for moderate democrats. he was a genuine news journalist and seemed like a genuine guy...and that's what is desperately missed in today's media. and there is loss for the public at large, being that his political views are similar to a very large percentage of americans...maybe not yours, but don't speak for everyone.
This kind of opinion is actually very scary to see so widely held. A genuine news journalist doesn't act out of interest for a party. A genuine news journalist acts out of interest for the truth.

This was a man who served as press secratery to president of the united states, and to say that he isn't deserving of three simple letters in memoriam is bullshit...
Well, he served and played a vital role to one of the most disastrous and dishonest presidents in history, so i would say that isn't a job worth remembering. I'm sure he could have been a great guy in his personal life, but no one here was in his personal life. We only knew him as a fox news commentator and press secretary and daily show guest, some apparently not even that much

[BruisedxBroken]

but no one here was in his personal life.

Presumptuous, aren't we?

[saysmydoctor]

This kind of opinion is actually very scary to see so widely held. A genuine news journalist doesn't act out of interest for a party. A genuine news journalist acts out of interest for the truth.


Well, he served and played a vital role to one of the most disastrous and dishonest presidents in history, so i would say that isn't a job worth remembering. I'm sure he could have been a great guy in his personal life, but no one here was in his personal life. We only knew him as a fox news commentator and press secretary and daily show guest, some apparently not even that much
You are a fucking dip shit. Who cares if I wasn't in his personal life, I can still mourn his loss.

Just because you don't agree with the position he held, the people he worked for, and his general politics, doesn't you have to outright disrespect him. Shut the fuck up.

[open mind]

You are a fucking dip shit. Who cares if I wasn't in his personal life, I can still mourn his loss.

Just because you don't agree with the position he held, the people he worked for, and his general politics, doesn't you have to outright disrespect him. Shut the fuck up.

the variety of irony you find here is just delicious.

[ghostyouare]

You are a fucking dip shit. Who cares if I wasn't in his personal life, I can still mourn his loss.

Just because you don't agree with the position he held, the people he worked for, and his general politics, doesn't you have to outright disrespect him. Shut the fuck up.
stop tryng to be morally sensitive, you dont give a shit about this guy. He had hs part in the worst presidents cabient and he choose to stay. He bullshitted and lied countless times in press conferences and you want to act like youre taking some high ground by `mourning.`

Phae is right, no one here knew him in person or on a personal level, so he could be as great as gandhi but since we are supposed to be respecting his political/occupational accomplishments hes open season for being where he was.

[Love As Arson]

I do not feel bad for any individual that was part of a propaganda mechanism that has justified the murder and repression other people. The fact that he was funny or likable is irrelevant.

[BruisedxBroken]

the variety of irony you find here is just delicious.

stop tryng to be morally sensitive, you dont give a shit about this guy. He had hs part in the worst presidents cabient and he choose to stay. He bullshitted and lied countless times in press conferences and you want to act like youre taking some high ground by `mourning.`

Phae is right, no one here knew him in person or on a personal level, so he could be as great as gandhi but since we are supposed to be respecting his political/occupational accomplishments hes open season for being where he was.

I do not feel bad for any individual that was part of a propaganda mechanism that has justified the murder and repression other people. The fact that he was funny or likable is irrelevant.

Yeah. Okay.

Somebody close this thread, please...

[saysmydoctor]

stop tryng to be morally sensitive, you dont give a shit about this guy. He had hs part in the worst presidents cabient and he choose to stay. He bullshitted and lied countless times in press conferences and you want to act like youre taking some high ground by `mourning.`

Phae is right, no one here knew him in person or on a personal level, so he could be as great as gandhi but since we are supposed to be respecting his political/occupational accomplishments hes open season for being where he was.
First of all, idiot, Press Secretary is not a cabinet official, it is below the cabinet level. And my God, get a spell checker. Regardless of whether or not 'he bullshitted and lied,' he has done more than anyone in this thread and that is serve his country--twice (before for Bush Senior as a speech writer and Deputy Assistant of Media Affairs).

I'm not even acknowledging what he did in the administration--not important. As a future journalism major, he was a genuine journalist (who I disagreed with on various things) and a honest man concerning his own politics and for that, I mourn. He was a personal hero of mine along with numerous other journalists (past and present) I respect with in the community. Nothing about what Phae said is right, it was disgusting and disrespectful.

[AP_Punk]

Give me a break, this guy has done nothing to deserve an RIP thread, none of you knew him, all he ever did was lie to you. Yeah if you were one of his loved ones then it would be really sad, but no one here is (feel free to correct me if so). I'm not saying he was a bad person in his personal life, he might have been a very loving son and father and husband much like the other thousands of loving sons and fathers and husbands that died today and everyday, but in his career he acted solely out of interest to republican party politics. This is no loss for the public at large, and I don't get why anyone would act like it is

stop tryng to be morally sensitive, you dont give a shit about this guy. He had hs part in the worst presidents cabient and he choose to stay. He bullshitted and lied countless times in press conferences and you want to act like youre taking some high ground by `mourning.`

Phae is right, no one here knew him in person or on a personal level, so he could be as great as gandhi but since we are supposed to be respecting his political/occupational accomplishments hes open season for being where he was.

I do not feel bad for any individual that was part of a propaganda mechanism that has justified the murder and repression other people. The fact that he was funny or likable is irrelevant.

Yes.

[saysmydoctor]

I do not feel bad for any individual that was part of a propaganda mechanism that has justified the murder and repression other people. The fact that he was funny or likable is irrelevant.
You normally are intelligent.

[phaedrus]

First of all, idiot, Press Secretary is not a cabinet official, it is below the cabinet level. And my God, get a spell checker. Regardless of whether or not 'he bullshitted and lied,' he has done more than anyone in this thread and that is serve his country--twice (before for Bush Senior as a speech writer and Deputy Assistant of Media Affairs).

I'm not even acknowledging what he did in the administration--not important. As a future journalism major, he was a genuine journalist (who I disagreed with on various things) and a honest man concerning his own politics and for that, I mourn. He was a personal hero of mine along with numerous other journalists (past and present) I respect with in the community. Nothing about what Phae said is right, it was disgusting and disrespectful.
I don't know about everyone else, but personally I am proud that I have never worked for an administration that is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands to millions of people. That is not an accomplishment I strive for, sorry.

And for the last time, he was not a genuine journalist! Genuine journalists have no personal politics reflected in their work! They report on the truth, without any bias. Please do not major in journalism until you figure that out

[mattybobviously]

Snow was by no means a genuine journalist, that's an absurd claim. A nice propaganda machine, but surely not a genuine journalist

[saysmydoctor]

I don't know about everyone else, but personally I am proud that I have never worked for an administration that is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands to millions of people. That is not an accomplishment I strive for, sorry.

And for the last time, he was not a genuine journalist! Genuine journalists have no personal politics reflected in their work! They report on the truth, without any bias. Please do not major in journalism until you figure that out
Yawn.

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure Keith Olbermann, Glenn Beck and other such journalists their personal politics reflect in their work. It's impossible not to when you hold a TV commentating job. It's not like a news anchor, where you just read a prompter. Think. Study journalism and you will know that you are the biggest fucking retard ever.

[Nevuk]

I'm amazed that people have called the guy honest. Were he to have died as the white house press secretary, I'd probably have rejoiced, however, he didn't. So why does anyone fucking care about it?

[Nevuk]

Yawn.

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure Keith Olbermann, Glenn Beck and other such journalists their personal politics reflect in their work. It's impossible not to when you hold a TV commentating job. It's not like a news anchor, where you just read a prompter. Think. Study journalism and you will know that you are the biggest fucking retard ever.
No one can be completely objective, the point however is to attempt to be objective. Purposefully slanting the information to further your own goals is just reprehensible.

[phaedrus]

Yawn.

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure Keith Olbermann, Glenn Beck and other such journalists their personal politics reflect in their work. It's impossible not to when you hold a TV commentating job. It's not like a news anchor, where you just read a prompter. Think. Study journalism and you will know that you are the biggest fucking retard ever.
All those that you named are commentators, not journalists. No one with half a brain refers to any of them as journalists. Fareed Zakaria, there is a good example of a journalist. No axe to grind, no political connections. I have studied journalism for the record

[ghostyouare]

All those that you named are commentators, not journalists. No one with half a brain refers to any of them as journalists. Fareed Zakaria, there is a good example of a journalist. No axe to grind, no political connections. I have studied journalism for the record
Bleh, hes just going to continue to argue so he doesnt have to admit being wrong.

[saysmydoctor]

All those that you named are commentators, not journalists. No one with half a brain refers to any of them as journalists. Fareed Zakaria, there is a good example of a journalist. No axe to grind, no political connections. I have studied journalism for the record
Wrong.

Another favorite of mine and someone I highly respect and whose books I own and read frequently. Who still speaks his mind and puts his politics in his writing.

And can you prove his lack of connections? I mean, if you truly believe that, like wow.

[phaedrus]

Bleh, hes just going to continue to argue so he doesnt have to admit being wrong.
Yeah, repetition of bullshit is a favorite tactic of those types of people i guess

[captainhampton]

I agree with everything saysmydoctor has said in this thread.

[GiggsOho]

get over yourself and give this man some respect. of course he acted out of the interest of the republican party, well that's because he was a republican! what he did for conservative republicans is similar to what tim russert did for moderate democrats. he was a genuine news journalist and seemed like a genuine guy...and that's what is desperately missed in today's media. and there is loss for the public at large, being that his political views are similar to a very large percentage of americans...maybe not yours, but don't speak for everyone.

Tim Russert NEVER let his politics out in the open, so you saying what he did was equal to Russert, you must be Tim's son, Luke, Otherwise, don't but Snow's name in with one of the greatest journalists to ever be broadcasted over the airwaves.

This kind of opinion is actually very scary to see so widely held. A genuine news journalist doesn't act out of interest for a party. A genuine news journalist acts out of interest for the truth.

BOOM. As a journalist myself, this should be tattooed on every journalist's arm.

[GiggsOho]

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure Keith Olbermann, Glenn Beck and other such journalists their personal politics reflect in their work. It's impossible not to when you hold a TV commentating job. It's not like a news anchor, where you just read a prompter. Think. Study journalism and you will know that you are the biggest fucking retard ever.

I normally agree with a lot of what you say, but you are flat out killing me with the journalism rhetoric you are thumping like you are Walter fucking Cronkite. No one cares.

Tony Snow's death, while tragic, doesn't resonate with ANYONE in this thread. Furthermore, he was still part an awful administration, and an awful news outlet that does anything and everything to NOT be "fair and unbalanced."

If think by mourning Tony Snow, you are somehow making nice with Republicans, just stop. While brain cancer is horrible to die from (I had a family member pass away from it myself), the guy was just more puppet for this administration to abuse.

[captainhampton]

i can't believe the amount of people in this thread who can't let go of the politics aspect. he was a really well liked guy who died far too young from a terrible disease. no one's asking anyone to like the guy, but it'd be mature to at least refrain from the typical "oh he was a republican who contributed to the Bush administration therefore he's evil" response. just don't say anything at all. it's just as shitty as the republicans who made insensitive remarks about Senator Kennedy when he was diagnosed. and I am, to say the least, no fan of Kennedy. But I hope he pulls through and wish his family well because I'm not a stupid asshole who hates everyone who differs from them politically.

[saysmydoctor]

I agree with everything saysmydoctor has said in this thread.
I must be wrong then.

[saysmydoctor]

i can't believe the amount of people in this thread who can't let go of the politics aspect. he was a really well liked guy who died far too young from a terrible disease. no one's asking anyone to like the guy, but it'd be mature to at least refrain from the typical "oh he was a republican who contributed to the Bush administration therefore he's evil" response. just don't say anything at all. it's just as shitty as the republicans who made insensitive remarks about Senator Kennedy when he was diagnosed. and I am, to say the least, no fan of Kennedy. But I hope he pulls through and wish his family well because I'm not a stupid asshole who hates everyone who differs from them politically.
I surprisingly agree with this.

I'm not interested in making nice with republicans blahblahblah. I don't even know why you would think that. This man, who I disagreed with politically, still spoke what he thought was the truth in his journalistic career. I've put aside his actually politics. I respect Tony Snow, none of you will make me stop or sway me from this opinion. You are inclined to disagree, just like I disagree with you. It's a pretty sad thing that you are all outright saying "Good riddance." That's very disgusting.

[Love As Arson]

i can't believe the amount of people in this thread who can't let go of the politics aspect. he was a really well liked guy who died far too young from a terrible disease. no one's asking anyone to like the guy, but it'd be mature to at least refrain from the typical "oh he was a republican who contributed to the Bush administration therefore he's evil" response. just don't say anything at all. it's just as shitty as the republicans who made insensitive remarks about Senator Kennedy when he was diagnosed. and I am, to say the least, no fan of Kennedy. But I hope he pulls through and wish his family well because I'm not a stupid asshole who hates everyone who differs from them politically.
His "politics" played a role in explaining away corruption and the deaths of innocents. That is something tangible, which cannot be let go. Incidentally, being "well-liked" is not a ticket that allows one to escape the criticisms of his role in the administration; presumably, one must believe he agreed with the president most of the time, otherwise he would not have taken the job.

[x togepi x]

it's just as shitty as the republicans who made insensitive remarks about Senator Kennedy when he was diagnosed. and I am, to say the least, no fan of Kennedy. But I hope he pulls through and wish his family well because I'm not a stupid asshole who hates everyone who differs from them politically.

not really since the people you're referring to, like micheal savage, were poking fun at kennedy's cancer. nobody here is saying OH MAN IT'S SO AWESOME TONY SNOW IS DEAD. they are merely saying he wasn't as good a guy as everyone here is saying.

you can argue that it's tasteless or insensitive to be making these statements, but it's totally not the same as what people were doing the kennedy.

[captainhampton]

His "politics" played a role in explaining away corruption and the deaths of innocents. That is something tangible, which cannot be let go. Incidentally, being "well-liked" is not a ticket that allows one to escape the criticisms of his role in the administration; presumably, one must believe he agreed with the president most of the time, otherwise he would not have taken the job.

says the guy who defends suicide bombers by labeling them as "oppressed."

[x togepi x]

says the guy who defends suicide bombers by labeling them as "oppressed."

says the guy who defends ethnic cleansing.

[captainhampton]

not really since the people you're referring to, like micheal savage, were poking fun at kennedy's cancer. nobody here is saying OH MAN IT'S SO AWESOME TONY SNOW IS DEAD. they are merely saying he wasn't as good a guy as everyone here is saying.

you can argue that it's tasteless or insensitive to be making these statements, but it's totally not the same as what people were doing the kennedy.

but if you do put politics aside, he WAS a good guy. that's my beef with most people on this thread, that they can't separate the politics of the man with the kind of man he was away from politics.

[x togepi x]

but if you do put politics aside, he WAS a good guy. that's my beef with most people on this thread, that they can't separate the politics of the man with the kind of man he was away from politics.

how exactly can you separate politics from who the person is? Does that mean I can go around and say "well besides raping that four year old, so and so is a really great guy!"?

It really sucks Tony Snow died of cancer. that's shitty and nobody should have to die like that. I'm sure his family is really hurting right now because of it and the past few years. It's sad for them and people that knew him, however, this doesn't change the facts of what he did for a living. Some people don't think it's out of line to criticize what his job was. Some think it's horribly insensitive.

i don't really care either way, i mean, i know when i die there's a good chance a bunch of fred phelp's spawn are going to show up and talk about how i'm in hell, so whatever.

[captainhampton]

how exactly can you separate politics from who the person is? Does that mean I can go around and say "well besides raping that four year old, so and so is a really great guy!"?

It really sucks Tony Snow died of cancer. that's shitty and nobody should have to die like that. I'm sure his family is really hurting right now because of it and the past few years. It's sad for them and people that knew him, however, this doesn't change the facts of what he did for a living. Some people don't think it's out of line to criticize what his job was. Some think it's horribly insensitive.

i don't really care either way, i mean, i know when i die there's a good chance a bunch of fred phelp's spawn are going to show up and talk about how i'm in hell, so whatever.

well for some people, it is too hard to separate the politics. and to those people, I think the best thing to do is not to say anything at all. however, i think there are far too many people eager to jump in here and discredit the man based on his politics. I wish they'd just let it go.

the middle paragraph you just wrote is all you have to say.

[x togepi x]

well for some people, it is too hard to separate the politics. and to those people, I think the best thing to do is not to say anything at all. however, i think there are far too many people eager to jump in here and discredit the man based on his politics. I wish they'd just let it go.

the middle paragraph you just wrote is all you have to say.

No, it isn't, because you made a factual error. What people were saying about Kennedy's cancer was mocking him for having cancer because they disagreed with him for whatever reason. Nobody here is saying it's a good thing that Tony Snow is dead, merely that he isn't as good as everyone else is saying, which can be the truth depending on how you look at it.

[open mind]

fuck tony snow's dead asshole..........telling people they should forget about his politics and actions and jump on board the sympathy bandwagon just because he's dead is simply idiotic.
his politics were horrendous, and he made a mockery of journalism.........maybe if the guy hadn't devoted you know.....his adult life to these things you could make a reasonable case that he should be assessed by other measures......but he didn't, so please just shut the fuck up already.

[captainhampton]

fine. I wish they would just say nothing, but hey this is an internet message board.

[captainhampton]

fuck tony snow's dead asshole..........telling people they should forget about his politics and actions and jump on board the sympathy bandwagon just because he's dead is simply idiotic.
his politics were horrendous, and he made a mockery of journalism.........maybe if the guy hadn't devoted you know.....his adult life to these things you could make a reasonable case that he should be assessed by other measures......but he didn't, so please just shut the fuck up already.

i'm not telling you to join the sympathy bandwagon, I'm just telling you to have a little decency and just shut the fuck up. there's no need to jump in and criticize someone who just died.

[open mind]

i'm not telling you to join the sympathy bandwagon, I'm just telling you to have a little decency and just shut the fuck up. there's no need to jump in and criticize someone who just died.

why is it that once somebody dies everybody has to give them a free pass for a few days?

[Nevuk]

why is it that once somebody dies everybody has to give them a free pass for a few days?
Because america is obsessed with avoiding death?

[GiggsOho]

Because america is obsessed with avoiding death?

ding ding ding ding ding.

[doubletrue]

This kind of opinion is actually very scary to see so widely held. A genuine news journalist doesn't act out of interest for a party. A genuine news journalist acts out of interest for the truth.


Well, he served and played a vital role to one of the most disastrous and dishonest presidents in history, so i would say that isn't a job worth remembering. I'm sure he could have been a great guy in his personal life, but no one here was in his personal life. We only knew him as a fox news commentator and press secretary and daily show guest, some apparently not even that much

i don't mind opinion at all in news, as long as it is separate from the facts. you obviously haven't looked close enough to those people you consider "genuine news journalists" because i'm sure their opinions are dispersed in their work. you probably just don't like the opinions he was giving, and therefore don't care at all that he died.

[doubletrue]

i can't believe the amount of people in this thread who can't let go of the politics aspect. he was a really well liked guy who died far too young from a terrible disease. no one's asking anyone to like the guy, but it'd be mature to at least refrain from the typical "oh he was a republican who contributed to the Bush administration therefore he's evil" response. just don't say anything at all. it's just as shitty as the republicans who made insensitive remarks about Senator Kennedy when he was diagnosed. and I am, to say the least, no fan of Kennedy. But I hope he pulls through and wish his family well because I'm not a stupid asshole who hates everyone who differs from them politically.

100% completely agree with you. people shouldn't be dicks because a person with opposing political views dies or something terrible happens to them. chances are, we all have family members with different opinions as us, should we then base our sensitivity on their political beliefs?

and some people just assume that since you work for the Bush administration, you must know every sleezy thing they do and mindlessly go along with it. im sure, or at least hope, that tony snow truly believed what he told the media as press secretary.

[mattybobviously]

and some people just assume that since you work for the Bush administration, you must know every sleezy thing they do and mindlessly go along with it. im sure, or at least hope, that tony snow truly believed what he told the media as press secretary.
Good luck holding on to that statement.

[Love As Arson]

says the guy who defends suicide bombers by labeling them as "oppressed."
Well, one should distinguish the violence and ideological justifications of an oppressor from the violence of the oppressed.

100% completely agree with you. people shouldn't be dicks because a person with opposing political views dies or something terrible happens to them. chances are, we all have family members with different opinions as us, should we then base our sensitivity on their political beliefs?

and some people just assume that since you work for the Bush administration, you must know every sleezy thing they do and mindlessly go along with it. im sure, or at least hope, that tony snow truly believed what he told the media as press secretary.
If my family members were complicit in war crimes, I doubt that I would care if they passed away.

[Wildness774]

thats too bad