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Foxholes
07/13/08, 01:16 PM
July 14-July 17.

This is usually the week when a lot of major gaming announcements are made. My money's on a new Nintendo handheld.

IGN (http://www.ign.com/index/e3/2008/) has good coverage.

myantiyou
07/13/08, 01:35 PM
I wish they would remake FF7 and FF8 with new graphics. I would buy a PS3 solely for those. I also hope they come out with a new Splinter Cell sometime.

colorlesscliche
07/13/08, 02:24 PM
A new nintendo handheld? The DS is selling like crazy why would they make a new one?

Kif
07/13/08, 02:26 PM
Dead Rising 2 is my far out prediction. Capcom have been rocking the shit out of gaming lately, I can see it happening.

Plodbax
07/13/08, 02:31 PM
I wish they would remake FF7 and FF8 with new graphics. I would buy a PS3 solely for those. I also hope they come out with a new Splinter Cell sometime.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Splinter_Cell:_Convi ction

kshtoinks12
07/13/08, 02:50 PM
They're supposedly going to announce the PS4 and 5.

Kid B
07/13/08, 03:24 PM
20 new Mario games for the wii would be my guess.

xBITCHxPLEASEx
07/13/08, 04:24 PM
Duke Nukem Forever gets more details, including release date.























NAHT.

williek311
07/13/08, 04:26 PM
A new nintendo handheld? The DS is selling like crazy why would they make a new one?
Theres a rumor of a new DS with a wider screen. It has been denied by Nintendo though.

myantiyou
07/13/08, 08:12 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Splinter_Cell:_Convi ction

I came

ammar
07/14/08, 08:32 AM
Microsoft confrence today!

dropkickromance
07/14/08, 08:36 AM
if anyone can watch, microsoft's conference will be on G4 at 1 pm.

williek311
07/14/08, 08:48 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Splinter_Cell:_Convi ction
I've been waiting for this game since last year when it was in Game Informer.
if anyone can watch, microsoft's conference will be on G4 at 1 pm.
Thanks for the heads up.

11:11
07/14/08, 04:02 PM
watched the whole conference. pretty boring except the new 360 avatar and sign-in look, and Rock Band.

gilatron5000
07/14/08, 04:06 PM
my DVR cut off the last few minutes of the conference. Was that FFXIII announced for the 360?

Oh, I see it was. Swt.

AshesAshes
07/14/08, 04:34 PM
I might not be buying a ps3 with FFXIII for 360.


The netflix thing was bad ass also

Ailite
07/14/08, 04:45 PM
Kind of boring this year :shrug:

gilatron5000
07/14/08, 04:45 PM
Indeed. I was going to get that roku box for netflix movies, but I may not need to, now.

aloneatlastnj
07/14/08, 04:53 PM
watched the whole conference. pretty boring except the new 360 avatar and sign-in look, and Rock Band.

i HATE HATE HATE HATE that dashboard/avatars/community thing. way to rip off a competing console's interface microsoft! leave the cartoon shit to wii.

AShannon04
07/14/08, 04:55 PM
I would love to hear something about Skate 2 this week.

11:11
07/14/08, 05:08 PM
i HATE HATE HATE HATE that dashboard/avatars/community thing. way to rip off a competing console's interface microsoft! leave the cartoon shit to wii.
im not too excited about the avatars, but i guess its just something ill have to give my full opinion on when they release it.

gilatron5000
07/14/08, 05:10 PM
the Live avatars look like direct ripoffs of the yahoo avatars, only animated.

TakeLotsWithAlcohol
07/14/08, 05:16 PM
rockband setlist ftw.

Angel Jin
07/14/08, 05:52 PM
their conference was confirmation of nearly every rumor that's slipped out of their offices since December-ish and a bunch of long overdue stuff that should've been done awhile ago i.e. new updates and what not.

everything else was to be expected minus the FFXIII surprise. the funny part is that no one is going to buy that game on 360. everyone was happy to see it, but the anticipated multi-disc set, lacking features from the PS3 version, and the fact that it's only being made for english speaking territories would deter me right away. thank goodness i bought a PS3.

the EA conference was okay. SIMS3, SPORE, Mirrors Edge and Peter Moore. it gave out on me a few times, but they said some pretty cool stuff. And i'm done with Valve. Gabe Newell needs to choke on his next triple cheeseburger.

there really isn't much left coming out of MS' camp. a few good games here and there, but nothing you can't get on PC and/or PS3. There was nothing in that conference to truly show that they are working to keep their lead in the "console race/wars" against the PS3. Netflix? are you serious? tv shows? folks, they're called TORRENTS, and the program is called MediaShare. It's apart of Windows Media Player. Try it sometime, yea? if that doesn't work, try NeroMediaServer or TVersity or one of the dozens of other programs that will let you watch the same stuff for FREE. lol

AShannon04
07/14/08, 05:53 PM
Avatars = HOME = Mii

everything else was to be expected minus the FFXIII surprise. the funny part is that no one is going to buy that game on 360.

the EA conference was okay. SIMS3, SPORE, Mirrors Edge and Peter Moore. it gave out on me a few times, but they said some pretty cool stuff. And i'm done with Valve. Gabe Newell needs to choke on his next triple cheeseburger.

I don't think you could be more wrong.

AshesAshes
07/14/08, 05:55 PM
Avatars = HOME = Mii

everything else was to be expected minus the FFXIII surprise. the funny part is that no one is going to buy that game on 360.

the EA conference was okay. SIMS3, SPORE, Mirrors Edge and Peter Moore. it gave out on me a few times, but they said some pretty cool stuff. And i'm done with Valve. Gabe Newell needs to choke on his next triple cheeseburger.

360 owners will buy FFXIII, I hate PS3 but I was gonna buy one for FFXIII.

Angel Jin
07/14/08, 06:07 PM
I don't think you could be more wrong.

I couldn't be more right. 360 owners aren't about RPG's, Family games, and all that stuff. They're "hxc gamers." They like to kill things.

The sales on the 360's rpg games are atrocious. Lost Odessey, Blue Dragon, and there were two more i believe that were exclusive to the xbox360, but didn't move very many units at all, amazing games though they are. Blue Dragon was made by the FF team, and no one bought it. not enough for anyone to notice at least. and now they're taking Star Ocean and FF to this console and the cycle will repeat itself.

everyone says they'll buy it/they complain and whine and beg for it, and then when it's time for action, everyone stands around with that confused look on their face.

you're 2 of maybe a dozen that will genuinely buy this game when it comes out. that's why they're not releasing it on the xbox360 in japan. it's a tactic to stay in the $$$ and to silence the naggers that keep asking for it, but we all know it won't sell.

honestly, if these devs would just stop being so damn lazy and actually USE the PS3 dev kits and tools and R&D they've been provided with, we'd see some decent games on the PS3. KONAMI, EA, and a few others are just starting to find that out.

Adrian Villagomez
07/14/08, 06:12 PM
If I allow it to, Spore will rule my life.

AShannon04
07/14/08, 06:12 PM
I couldn't be more right. 360 owners aren't about RPG's, Family games, and all that stuff. They're "hxc gamers." They like to kill things.

The sales on the 360's rpg games are atrocious. Lost Odessey, Blue Dragon, and there were two more i believe that were exclusive to the xbox360, but didn't move very many units at all, amazing games though they are. Blue Dragon was made by the FF team, and no one bought it. not enough for anyone to notice at least. and now they're taking Star Ocean and FF to this console and the cycle will repeat itself.

everyone says they'll buy it/they complain and whine and beg for it, and then when it's time for action, everyone stands around with that confused look on their face.

you're 2 of maybe a dozen that will genuinely buy this game when it comes out. that's why they're not releasing it on the xbox360 in japan. it's a tactic to stay in the $$$ and to silence the naggers that keep asking for it, but we all know it won't sell.

I would argue that "hxc gamers" like RPGs. They're way more complex and difficult and require a lot more time than shooters. The reason why Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey might not have sold well is that they aren't mainstream AAA titles. With a name like Final Fantasy, it's going to sell a shitload of units.

Also, keep in mind that Mass Effect, another RPG, was very successful, and Fallout 3 is also likely to sell well.

For the record, I hate RPGs and won't buy FFXIII.

AshesAshes
07/14/08, 06:13 PM
If I allow it to, Spore will rule my life.

What is the point of this game? Just creating monsters and thats it?

I have yet to see the appeal of the game

AshesAshes
07/14/08, 06:14 PM
I would argue that "hxc gamers" like RPGs. They're way more complex and difficult and require a lot more time than shooters. The reason why Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey might not have sold well is that they aren't mainstream AAA titles. With a name like Final Fantasy, it's going to sell a shitload of units.

Also, keep in mind that Mass Effect, another RPG, was very successful, and Fallout 3 will also sell a bunch, I'm guessing.

For the record, I hate RPGs and won't buy FFXIII.

Yea, plus Oblivion did pretty well

Adrian Villagomez
07/14/08, 06:15 PM
What is the point of this game? Just creating monsters and thats it?

I have yet to see the appeal of the gameIt's like The Sims/Civilization with cool and evolving creatures rather then gibberish-speaking humans.

Angel Jin
07/14/08, 06:17 PM
yea the name-drop tactic used in the entertainment industry doesn't really work for me anymore.

i'm still sore at FFX-2. at this point, if something like that can exist in this universe, than anything can go horribly wrong.

edit:It's like The Sims/Civilization with cool and evolving creatures rather then gibberish-speaking humans.

THAT actually sounds cool, but from all the footage and previews i've seen, it's like a never-ending version of flOw.

open mind
07/14/08, 06:17 PM
I couldn't be more right. 360 owners aren't about RPG's, Family games, and all that stuff. They're "hxc gamers." They like to kill things.

The sales on the 360's rpg games are atrocious. Lost Odessey, Blue Dragon, and there were two more i believe that were exclusive to the xbox360, but didn't move very many units at all, amazing games though they are. Blue Dragon was made by the FF team, and no one bought it. not enough for anyone to notice at least. and now they're taking Star Ocean and FF to this console and the cycle will repeat itself.

everyone says they'll buy it/they complain and whine and beg for it, and then when it's time for action, everyone stands around with that confused look on their face.

you're 2 of maybe a dozen that will genuinely buy this game when it comes out. that's why they're not releasing it on the xbox360 in japan. it's a tactic to stay in the $$$ and to silence the naggers that keep asking for it, but we all know it won't sell.

honestly, if these devs would just stop being so damn lazy and actually USE the PS3 dev kits and tools and R&D they've been provided with, we'd see some decent games on the PS3. KONAMI, EA, and a few others are just starting to find that out.


with blue dragon, lost odessy (sp?) , cry on, namco, square, and the smaller jrpg developers (nippon ichi and atlus are examples) on board the ps3 isn't automattically the best place to get your jrpgs.......so you're going to see the jrpg crowd (or at least the intelligent part of it) start to migrate to 360.
it's not about laziness, it's about buisness. it doesn't matter to buisnesses how powerful your system is in theory if it's fundamentally inefficient and thus costlier to develop for.

AshesAshes
07/14/08, 06:18 PM
It's like The Sims/Civilization with cool and evolving creatures rather then gibberish-speaking humans.

I need to try this out asap.

I love Civilization

AShannon04
07/14/08, 06:20 PM
Mass Effect and Oblivion are the 12th and 13th highest selling games on the 360 with 1.6 and 1.562 million units shipped, respectively.

Angel Jin
07/14/08, 06:25 PM
with blue dragon, lost odessy (sp?) , cry on, namco, square, and the smaller rpg developers (nippon ichi and atlus) on board the ps3 isn't automattically the best place to get your rpgs.......so you're going to see the rpg crowd (or at least the intelligent part of it) start to migrate to 360.
it's not about laziness, it's about buisness. it doesn't matter how powerful you're system is in theory if it's fundamentally inefficient.

all very good points, but it is laziness. programming for the XBOX360 is leaps and bounds easier than on the PS3. it's the same reason alot of devs pushed to make visual basic (or was it java) the new language as opposed to c++; it's just easier to work with. unfortunately in this business that means a lot of people are getting shafted, and the bottom line is that developers had an extra year to work with the xbox360 development tools and kits and some had even longer than that (Rockstar, Bungie, RARE, etc.). From the very few people I've met in the gaming biz, they've all told me once you get the hang of it, it's alot easier to work with and alot more powerful. i'm not knocking the xbox360 in any way, it'd just be nice to see some love for all consumers and not just A or B and in this case C. It shouldn't come down to "If we don't make it for you, switch over." That attitude hasn't exactly worked. Look at the mac LOL. It did kill the HDDVD though.

open mind
07/14/08, 06:34 PM
all very good points, but it is laziness. programming for the XBOX360 is leaps and bounds easier than on the PS3. it's the same reason alot of devs pushed to make visual basic (or was it java) the new language as opposed to c++; it's just easier to work with. unfortunately in this business that means a lot of people are getting shafted, and the bottom line is that developers had an extra year to work with the xbox360 development tools and kits and some had even longer than that (Rockstar, Bungie, RARE, etc.). From the very few people I've met in the gaming biz, they've all told me once you get the hang of it, it's alot easier to work with and alot more powerful. i'm not knocking the xbox360 in any way, it'd just be nice to see some love for all consumers and not just A or B and in this case C. It shouldn't come down to "If we don't make it for you, switch over." That attitude hasn't exactly worked. Look at the mac LOL. It did kill the HDDVD though.

like it or not ease of use, and practical applications are big factors in the decision making process of most developers and publishers.
sure you could learn to be an ace ps3 programmer...but that takes alot of time and monetary investment and the code is only useful for the highly specialized ps3...meanwhile 360 programming requires the use of common coding language that takes a minimal amount of re-educating to work with thanks to its common hardware components.
asking buisnesses to put in more work for less pay makes no logical sense and they're simply not going to do it unless they have to. you could call it laziness or you could call it buisness, or just the realities of capitalism....but those aren't about to change just because sony wants them to.
you'd seriously think that sony would have known better after the way they were able to run sega out of the console buisness largely because of the fact that nobody wanted to put in the effort to get the most out of the saturn.

Angel Jin
07/14/08, 06:43 PM
yea, and being an ace programmer wouldn't mean much without a team behind you. much like that of any kind of sports team or band out there today.

good call.

CstSnow
07/15/08, 01:33 AM
I couldn't be more right. 360 owners aren't about RPG's, Family games, and all that stuff. They're "hxc gamers." They like to kill things.

The sales on the 360's rpg games are atrocious. Lost Odessey, Blue Dragon, and there were two more i believe that were exclusive to the xbox360, but didn't move very many units at all, amazing games though they are. Blue Dragon was made by the FF team, and no one bought it. not enough for anyone to notice at least. and now they're taking Star Ocean and FF to this console and the cycle will repeat itself.

everyone says they'll buy it/they complain and whine and beg for it, and then when it's time for action, everyone stands around with that confused look on their face.

you're 2 of maybe a dozen that will genuinely buy this game when it comes out. that's why they're not releasing it on the xbox360 in japan. it's a tactic to stay in the $$$ and to silence the naggers that keep asking for it, but we all know it won't sell.

honestly, if these devs would just stop being so damn lazy and actually USE the PS3 dev kits and tools and R&D they've been provided with, we'd see some decent games on the PS3. KONAMI, EA, and a few others are just starting to find that out.

HAHAHAHA dude you are such a fanboy, shut up. Maybe a dozen people buying this game? I know you were exaggerating low for effect but come the fuck on.

Angel Jin
07/15/08, 01:40 AM
fanboy? sure, let's go with that.

will YOU be buying this game or are you one of those "IN UR FACE PS3 ****!!!111oneoneone" persons? ya know, it doesn't really matter.

the fact that the game is only being released on XBOX360 in english-speaking countries i.e. North America and Europe struck me as it won't sell at least not the kind of numbers needed to make it's mark on the console itself. This was the kind of thing people complain about and then when they get it, they don't know what to do with themselves. Besides, by the time this game actually makes it's way to the XBOX360, i doubt anyone will be interested in it honestly. They've already said they're not working on the 360-port until the PS3 version is done, and who the hell knows when THAT will be? No release date, not even a window. Just a trailer. No confirmation of demos on the showfloor or anything. just trailer after trailer after trailer plus the fact that it's coming your way. This will be the equivalent of what happened to UT3 for 360 owners, but hey, to each his own. if you think the game is going to sell like hotcakes, then it must be the truth according to the gospel.

seriously dude, if you've got no kind of argument other than "UR A FANBOY SHUT UP OMG NO ONE LIKES PS3" go to the IGN boards or troll a game blog site.

open mind
07/15/08, 01:51 AM
yea, and being an ace programmer wouldn't mean much without a team behind you. much like that of any kind of sports team or band out there today.

good call.

after your latest post that shows you obviously suffer from acute fanboy syndrome i'm no longer sure that you were being sincere here........so just in case you were being sarcastic switch out the word programmer for developer in the post you were responding to in this quote here.

Angel Jin
07/15/08, 02:12 AM
sure you could learn to be an ace ps3 programmer...but that takes alot of time and monetary investment and the code is only useful for the highly specialized ps3

that's where i pulled that from.

and i only jumped all over that guys head because he had no point. it's one thing to state facts much like you've been doing, but it's another thing to jump into a conversation and make no point other than to declare someone as something and tell them to be quiet.

me defending the PS brand is no different than any of the thousands of conversations on this thread. at least i've got points to make though. if i come in here later today talking about what happened at the PS and Nintendo Conferences, this thread will get flooded with "PS3 is gay" posts, and i'll be dubbed a PS fanboy because i prefer A over B or whatever.

open mind
07/15/08, 02:45 AM
that's where i pulled that from.

and i only jumped all over that guys head because he had no point. it's one thing to state facts much like you've been doing, but it's another thing to jump into a conversation and make no point other than to declare someone as something and tell them to be quiet.

me defending the PS brand is no different than any of the thousands of conversations on this thread. at least i've got points to make though. if i come in here later today talking about what happened at the PS and Nintendo Conferences, this thread will get flooded with "PS3 is gay" posts, and i'll be dubbed a PS fanboy because i prefer A over B or whatever.

i know where you pulled it from......and acting like my point is null and void because i used the word programmer when developer might have been the more appropriate word is ridiculous.
your points are poorly thought out because your logic is based on opinion, speculation, generalizations, untruths, and assumptions and you're entirely to defensive, so dude has good cause to label you as a fanboy.

Angel Jin
07/15/08, 03:06 AM
i know where you pulled it from......and acting like my point is null and void because i used the word programmer when developer might have been the more appropriate word is ridiculous.
your points are poorly thought out because your logic is based on opinion, speculation, generalizations, untruths, and assumptions and you're entirely to defensive, so dude has good cause to label you as a fanboy.

....who said you're points are null and void? i was saying that's a good call on your part. sorry to mislead ya there.

TooLateF0rRoses
07/15/08, 06:34 AM
images show Jaromir Jagr on the Rangers... i hope they update that kinda stuff. i hate buying games with old rosters, even if they put out updates

Anton Djamoos
07/15/08, 07:24 AM
I couldn't be more right. 360 owners aren't about RPG's, Family games, and all that stuff. They're "hxc gamers." They like to kill things.

The sales on the 360's rpg games are atrocious. Lost Odessey, Blue Dragon, and there were two more i believe that were exclusive to the xbox360, but didn't move very many units at all, amazing games though they are. Blue Dragon was made by the FF team, and no one bought it. not enough for anyone to notice at least. and now they're taking Star Ocean and FF to this console and the cycle will repeat itself.

everyone says they'll buy it/they complain and whine and beg for it, and then when it's time for action, everyone stands around with that confused look on their face.

you're 2 of maybe a dozen that will genuinely buy this game when it comes out. that's why they're not releasing it on the xbox360 in japan. it's a tactic to stay in the $$$ and to silence the naggers that keep asking for it, but we all know it won't sell.

honestly, if these devs would just stop being so damn lazy and actually USE the PS3 dev kits and tools and R&D they've been provided with, we'd see some decent games on the PS3. KONAMI, EA, and a few others are just starting to find that out.
See: Elder Scrolls: Oblivion. I'm pretty sure that was an RPG that did fairly well.

Plus the fact that it's being developed only for English speaking countries is because the 360 sells like ass in Japan. It'd be financially stupid to try to sell this type of game on the 360 in a Sony-loving country like Japan. However, it'll still sell in America. Guaranteed.

Gedarov
07/15/08, 09:17 AM
And i'm done with Valve. Gabe Newell needs to choke on his next triple cheeseburger.

im a huge fan of valve games, did they announce anything that looked bad...? help me out here, as I, unfortunatley, currently ahve no tv and internet at my house :-/ (im at work now)

Anton Djamoos
07/15/08, 09:37 AM
If I allow it to, Spore will rule my life.
Haha, seriously. I'm afraid when it comes out.

Brandon Allin
07/15/08, 10:37 AM
I couldn't be more right. 360 owners aren't about RPG's, Family games, and all that stuff. They're "hxc gamers." They like to kill things.

The sales on the 360's rpg games are atrocious. Lost Odessey, Blue Dragon, and there were two more i believe that were exclusive to the xbox360, but didn't move very many units at all, amazing games though they are. Blue Dragon was made by the FF team, and no one bought it. not enough for anyone to notice at least. and now they're taking Star Ocean and FF to this console and the cycle will repeat itself.

everyone says they'll buy it/they complain and whine and beg for it, and then when it's time for action, everyone stands around with that confused look on their face.

you're 2 of maybe a dozen that will genuinely buy this game when it comes out. that's why they're not releasing it on the xbox360 in japan. it's a tactic to stay in the $$$ and to silence the naggers that keep asking for it, but we all know it won't sell.

honestly, if these devs would just stop being so damn lazy and actually USE the PS3 dev kits and tools and R&D they've been provided with, we'd see some decent games on the PS3. KONAMI, EA, and a few others are just starting to find that out.
Lost Odyssey has sold over 100,000 copies in Japan. For a console that is barely even recognized overseas, particularly in Japan, I would say 100,000 should be considered a fair success. It's clear you're a PS3 supporter though, so I'll cut this short.

Brandon Allin
07/15/08, 10:39 AM
See: Elder Scrolls: Oblivion. I'm pretty sure that was an RPG that did fairly well.

Plus the fact that it's being developed only for English speaking countries is because the 360 sells like ass in Japan. It'd be financially stupid to try to sell this type of game on the 360 in a Sony-loving country like Japan. However, it'll still sell in America. Guaranteed.
If by fairly well, you mean as of 2006 the fastest-selling game on the 360. I'm confident this Angel Jin person has absolutely no idea what they're talking about, or they're either blinded by their own bias towards Sony.

WakingTheMisery
07/15/08, 10:42 AM
My brother is dying for Mass Effect 2. I want to see a new Black & White.

Angel Jin
07/15/08, 10:49 AM
im a huge fan of valve games, did they announce anything that looked bad...? help me out here, as I, unfortunatley, currently ahve no tv and internet at my house :-/ (im at work now)

all their games are fine,they're just shafting anyone that doesn't have a 360. and then he goes on a rant about how everything else is obsolete blah blah blah. plus he sold out to EA XP

to sum up pages and pages and pages of bullshit, FFXIII just seemed like one of those extra games that wouldn't do well. SEEMED. It came across as an exciting announcement for 360 gamers with no sales numbers to back up the level of excitement.

also, the sales numbers were nice guys, but i was mostly talking about here in the english speaking territories mostly. It seems like a lot of RPG's don't sell well outside of Asia at all in general come to think of it so it kind of perplexes me why they keep releasing them on one console.

Anton Djamoos
07/15/08, 11:02 AM
all their games are fine,they're just shafting anyone that doesn't have a 360. and then he goes on a rant about how everything else is obsolete blah blah blah. plus he sold out to EA XP

to sum up pages and pages and pages of bullshit, FFXIII just seemed like one of those extra games that wouldn't do well. SEEMED. It came across as an exciting announcement for 360 gamers with no sales numbers to back up the level of excitement.

also, the sales numbers were nice guys, but i was mostly talking about here in the english speaking territories mostly. It seems like a lot of RPG's don't sell well outside of Asia at all in general come to think of it so it kind of perplexes me why they keep releasing them on one console.
It's still a win for Microsoft that they were able to acquire what had been a more than a decade-long exclusive franchise...that only means good things for the future and who knows what kind of user base this game will get? The fact that they got it is a positive thing for the company and for their investors. Not only that, but remember GTA4? People thought that wouldn't sell as well off of a Sony platform.

WakingTheMisery
07/15/08, 11:11 AM
I was only buying a PS3 for FFXIII. Sony just lost some huge support. I guess we can only hope there is some sort of Subsistence for 360. I know the discs don't have nearly the space to support it, but like I said, we can only hope.

Adrian Villagomez
07/15/08, 11:11 AM
My brother is dying for Mass Effect 2. I want to see a new Black & White.I still want to play (God) the first B&W.

WakingTheMisery
07/15/08, 11:24 AM
I still want to play (God) the first B&W.

That game was way beyond its time. Such a fantastic game. The graphics were far superior to anything in the three years even following its release.

Adrian Villagomez
07/15/08, 11:26 AM
That game was way beyond its time. Such a fantastic game. The graphics were far superior to anything in the three years even following its release.I was more attracted to the Pokemon monsters.

WakingTheMisery
07/15/08, 11:38 AM
So was I. I still am. But the Pokemon releases are already set.

Pokemon Platinum will have new forms of the legendaries and a new place to go.

Pokemon Gold and Silver will also be getting huge DS makeovers in order to make the starter and legendary Pokemon more readily available for the kiddies to trade.

CstSnow
07/15/08, 12:20 PM
fanboy? sure, let's go with that.

will YOU be buying this game or are you one of those "IN UR FACE PS3 ****!!!111oneoneone" persons? ya know, it doesn't really matter.

the fact that the game is only being released on XBOX360 in english-speaking countries i.e. North America and Europe struck me as it won't sell at least not the kind of numbers needed to make it's mark on the console itself. This was the kind of thing people complain about and then when they get it, they don't know what to do with themselves. Besides, by the time this game actually makes it's way to the XBOX360, i doubt anyone will be interested in it honestly. They've already said they're not working on the 360-port until the PS3 version is done, and who the hell knows when THAT will be? No release date, not even a window. Just a trailer. No confirmation of demos on the showfloor or anything. just trailer after trailer after trailer plus the fact that it's coming your way. This will be the equivalent of what happened to UT3 for 360 owners, but hey, to each his own. if you think the game is going to sell like hotcakes, then it must be the truth according to the gospel.

seriously dude, if you've got no kind of argument other than "UR A FANBOY SHUT UP OMG NO ONE LIKES PS3" go to the IGN boards or troll a game blog site.

I actually only have a ps3, but thats just because it has better baseball games. :shrug:

quesosauce
07/15/08, 12:27 PM
soo did valve announce anything regarding HL2:EP3?/

Angel Jin
07/15/08, 01:22 PM
MS Conference was confirmation of all rumors + FFXIII Surprise
Nintendo Conference was deathly boring. Animal Crossing for Wii....not much to write home about
Sony pretty much dropped the ball.

Now all that's left is to find out what's up w/ RB2, GH:WT, and DDRX. yhey for music games.

nope, no HL3:EP3

AShannon04
07/15/08, 01:58 PM
MS Conference was confirmation of all rumors + FFXIII Surprise
Nintendo Conference was deathly boring. Animal Crossing for Wii....not much to write home about
Sony pretty much dropped the ball.

Now all that's left is to find out what's up w/ RB2, GH:WT, and DDRX. yhey for music games.

nope, no HL3:EP3

The only thing I thought was cool about the Sony presentation was the price drop on the 80gb model. Probably means I'll be getting one sometime this fall.

chris1152
07/15/08, 02:53 PM
Tomorrow morning we shall hear news from Bungie regarding (most likely) their next project. It will be interesting to see where they are planning on going, now that the current Halo trilogy (with the Chief) is for the most part wrapped up.

WakingTheMisery
07/15/08, 02:56 PM
I have little to no interest in a new Halo game. Its too bad that its such a cash cow.

Brandon Allin
07/15/08, 04:10 PM
I have little to no interest in a new Halo game. Its too bad that its such a cash cow.
I highly doubt they will announce a game in any way related to Halo.

WakingTheMisery
07/15/08, 04:15 PM
I highly doubt they will announce a game in any way related to Halo.

It doesn't even have to be a game. I was reading an article pertaining to Peter Jackson working on an interactive series called Halo Chronicles. No one knows much, maybe tomorrow we will hear more.

eMart
07/15/08, 04:32 PM
I highly doubt they will announce a game in any way related to Halo. Well if there's no Halo game, it's definitely going to be a Bungie game. There's a countdown on their site that ends tomorrow. http://www.bungie.net/defaultsi.aspx

Brandon Allin
07/15/08, 04:46 PM
Well if there's no Halo game, it's definitely going to be a Bungie game. There's a countdown on their site that ends tomorrow. http://www.bungie.net/defaultsi.aspx
I'm aware Bungie is working on a new project, but it won't be Halo.

eMart
07/15/08, 04:55 PM
I'm aware Bungie is working on a new project, but it won't be Halo.
I hope not, I'd love to see them try something new. But if it is a new Halo game, it might be this one: http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/07/14/source-halo-blue-headed-to-360-in-september/ which is supposed to be a darker, grittier, more mature version of Halo. http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=264836 69

open mind
07/15/08, 05:03 PM
all their games are fine,they're just shafting anyone that doesn't have a 360. and then he goes on a rant about how everything else is obsolete blah blah blah. plus he sold out to EA XP

to sum up pages and pages and pages of bullshit, FFXIII just seemed like one of those extra games that wouldn't do well. SEEMED. It came across as an exciting announcement for 360 gamers with no sales numbers to back up the level of excitement.

also, the sales numbers were nice guys, but i was mostly talking about here in the english speaking territories mostly. It seems like a lot of RPG's don't sell well outside of Asia at all in general come to think of it so it kind of perplexes me why they keep releasing them on one console.

even the jrpgs have done decently on 360......blue dragon has sold more then a million copies worldwide, and lost odyessy has sold about three quarters of a million copies. not huge numbers but most of those copies were sold outside of asia and it's far more then a handful.

AShannon04
07/15/08, 05:11 PM
I highly doubt they will announce a game in any way related to Halo.

The rumors that have been swirling the last few weeks are saying that 3 Halo games will be talked about tomorrow: Halo Wars, Peter Jackson's Halo, and a new game, possibly revolving around other Halo characters besides Master Chief.

WakingTheMisery
07/15/08, 05:22 PM
I hope not, I'd love to see them try something new. But if it is a new Halo game, it might be this one: http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/07/14/source-halo-blue-headed-to-360-in-september/ which is supposed to be a darker, grittier, more mature version of Halo. http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=264836 69

I'm pretty sure Halo Wars is coming out in September...

AShannon04
07/15/08, 05:25 PM
Got pushed back to Spring '09

Angel Jin
07/15/08, 06:29 PM
Got pushed back to Spring '09

damn with everything getting pushed back to Spring 09 it's gonna throw off the holiday game rush we get every november.

nhoium
07/15/08, 06:34 PM
Stoked for Megaman 9, Animal Crossing, GTA(DS) and Spore.

niveK
07/15/08, 06:35 PM
damn with everything getting pushed back to Spring 09 it's gonna throw off the holiday game rush we get every november.

Just a few years ago 'pushed back to spring XX' meant it would keep getting pushed back until the next holiday season. I'm glad that companies realized that you can release games year round and still have great sales. Altought it does feel odd that the only holiday game (I can think offhand this second) I am really stoked for is Fallout 3 and Animal Crossing. edit: and Gears 2

AShannon04
07/15/08, 06:37 PM
Gears of War 2 and Fable II both come out this Fall/Holiday Season

pshh
07/15/08, 06:57 PM
I haven't been really updated on this, but is there like a list that is updated with all the big announcements?

Brokenhill
07/15/08, 08:14 PM
I haven't been really updated on this, but is there like a list that is updated with all the big announcements?


Here's most (if not, all) of the main stuff.
http://e3.g4tv.com/e32008/blog/index.html?pg=3

It's on the page of this morning's Nintendo Conference and some of yesterdays stuff...but if you go to older/newer posts there is a bunch more.

WakingTheMisery
07/15/08, 10:13 PM
Pokemon Ranger = Lame
Cel Shaded PoP = Ace
FFXIII = Best news ever
New Wolfenstein = Cool I guess. Glad they switch it up with the WWII. GI screen shots were neat.

Angel Jin
07/15/08, 10:54 PM
Hayley Wililams has been confirmed to appear in GHWT. She was there to announce it.........ugh. (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/15/joystiq-live-at-activisions-non-e3-press-conference/)

at the 8:38 mark. pictures of her below.

Mike78098C
07/15/08, 11:18 PM
Did anybody feel like Nintendo just didn't really please anybody this year?
WiiMusic? Come on. Quit using MIDI format. Get some real orchestra in thurrr.
An attachment to the Wiimote that should have been incorporated initially?
A microphone for a room which should have come in the beginning?
Animal Crossing....I have nothing against. It looks cool.

Grade: D

gilatron5000
07/16/08, 02:10 AM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080716.jpg

This pretty much sums up the keynotes for E3

Inzanituz
07/16/08, 07:41 AM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080716.jpg

This pretty much sums up the keynotes for E3


lmfao, very true!

eMart
07/16/08, 08:59 AM
I'm aware Bungie is working on a new project, but it won't be Halo.http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/07/16/microsoft-confirms-bungie-is-developing-new-halo/

and apparently they won't be revealing the game today: http://www.bungie.net/defaultsi.aspx

Angel Jin
07/16/08, 11:46 AM
wow that's really really really really really gay. i wonder if they'll ever break away from HALO now.

WakingTheMisery
07/16/08, 09:56 PM
Not surprised at all.

Protested Hero
07/16/08, 09:59 PM
I could always use more Halo.

I'm still pumped for what Microsoft has to offer. They stole the show.

WakingTheMisery
07/17/08, 02:53 PM
Anything cool today?

demondays524
07/19/08, 05:11 PM
I used to be really into E3, but I lost interest in the last few years.

Right now, I'm pretty excited for The Sims 3. I think it was featured at E3 but I'm not sure. And FFXIII. I just wish they would've said something about the new Kingdom Hearts games.