What the hell...

[hXc_pwnage]

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?floc=NW_1-T&oldflok=FF-RTO-roitz&idq=/ff/story/0002%2F20040524%2F1350589246.htm&sc=roitz

Uhh...

[yeat182]

thats no good if its true, but i think i'm going to wait for a little more info before passing judgement on this one...

[ohlookitspaul]

the link doesn't work for me

[hXc_pwnage]

It's a story saying the US bombed a wedding.

They can't say for sure, so I stand were yeat does at this moment.

But like he said, if this is true, well that is just horrible.

[Kay Delonge]

It's a story saying the US bombed a wedding.

They can't say for sure, so I stand were yeat does at this moment.

But like he said, if this is true, well that is just horrible.

Well I guess any of you haven't seen this on national news like I did many days ago in Norway. Footage from Norwegian tourist showing family members draging mutalated children bodies out of what used to be a building, telling they saw U.S. planes drop bombes only metres from their hotel... U.S. military still claimes they bombed terrorists....


~Truth is the first casualty of war~

[open mind]

i'm leaning more towards thinking it was a wedding party, because the military said there was no evidence of a party but there are photos of the rubble with musical instruments and other things indicating a party, and they just had one of the guys ( i believe the organinst ) in the video of the party and then his picture of him dead on cnn.

[yeat182]

there is a good article posted in the News forum about this, i'll try and find it, but it makes it out to be something other than a wedding. i think the confusion is that there was a wedding at that location during the day (i guess it was a strange place to hold a wedding or something like that) and then the US said what they saw at midnight when they bombed it was something far different than a wedding. hold on i'll try and dig up that article...

[open mind]

middle eastern wedding celebrations go on for days, so it wasn't strange for people to be partying at midnight.

[yeat182]

From the Kansas City star newspaper (Knight Ridder):

BAGHDAD, Iraq — At the site where a U.S. air strike killed 40 persons Wednesday, troops found “terrorist manuals,” machines for making fake IDs, and battery packs rigged for homemade bombs.

They found nothing to indicate a wedding party, as some witnesses have said, a senior military official said Saturday.

Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, chief military spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition, said evidence at the location about 15 miles from the Syrian border suggested that there had been a secret meeting of anti-occupation forces.

However, Kimmitt left open the possibility that there also may have been some kind of celebration.

“Bad people have parties, too,” he said.

The incident has stirred further anger among Iraqis already bitter about the American occupation, and U.S. military officials have moved swiftly to counter the allegation that they may have slaughtered innocent persons.

A videotape emerged late Wednesday allegedly showing the bodies of the dead, including children. Purported witnesses said the air strike hit a wedding party.

At a briefing Saturday, Kimmitt showed photographs of the interior of the targeted building that showed stacks of bedding — more than 300 sets — a table used for medical examinations, and medical supplies, including syringes with residue suspected of being cocaine. There were assorted firearms and a large number of packed sets of clothing.

He said the setup appeared to be a way station where foreign fighters slipping through the border could get bogus identification documents and clothes that would help them blend in with the Iraqi population.

“There was no evidence of a wedding,” Kimmitt said. “There was no decorations, no music instruments found, no large quantities of food or leftover servings one would expect from a wedding celebration. No gifts.”

[open mind]

that's a dated article there is photographic proof of a wedding party taking place there (like musical instruments and wedding garments).
there's at least one guy who was playing the organ at the party who has been confirmed among the dead.
because the military got that shit wrong i'm skeptical of what they say, if they can prove they are telling the truth i'll happily eat my words

[yeat182]

my point is there is an unconfirmed video of a wedding. that wedding could be anywhere, and there is supposedly one guy that shows up in it (the organ player) who ends up as one of the dead. it is possible that he is a terrorists and left the wedding to go to this meeting or whatever it was. the point is, this video, at this point, is inconclusive. and this artcile is maybe a few days old, that doesn't really make it "dated".

[hXc_pwnage]

This thing can go either way...

Either way is bad.

[open mind]

my point is there is an unconfirmed video of a wedding. that wedding could be anywhere, and there is supposedly one guy that shows up in it (the organ player) who ends up as one of the dead. it is possible that he is a terrorists and left the wedding to go to this meeting or whatever it was. the point is, this video, at this point, is inconclusive. and this artcile is maybe a few days old, that doesn't really make it "dated".
well the wedding and the meeting supposedly were in the same place.
the articles assertions that there was no evidence of a wedding have been proven false, hence it's dated.

[yeat182]

well the wedding and the meeting supposedly were in the same place.
the articles assertions that there was no evidence of a wedding have been proven false, hence it's dated.

how have they been proven false?

[open mind]

photos of the rubble have shown that there was evidence of a wedding party going on.

[Sinister Rouge]

I am more likely to believe the Iraqis on this one....that video and the pictures of the organist were convincing...

This story is eerily similar to the bombing of a wedding party in Afghanistan 2 years ago.

We also bombed civilians during the "war" (April 2003) when we thought Saddam was at a certain civilian populated area, we hit all civilians and no Saddam.

Every civilian area "accidently" hit or "accidently" killed is a terrorist victory.

[yeat182]

photos of the rubble have shown that there was evidence of a wedding party going on.

and there are actual first hand accounts of terrorsit materials being found at the site.

[open mind]

and there are actual first hand accounts of terrorsit materials being found at the site.
and there are auctual first hand accounts of a wedding party going on.