Popcore? Happy Hardcore? Posi? call it what you will.

[PowerCorps1985]

Bands that combine hardcore song structure and vocals with pop punk sensibilities and chrouses.

set your goals
four year strong
new found glory
the movielife
the sleeping
fireworks
this time next year
a day to remember
across five aprils
evergreen terrace
bombshell
daggermouth

anyone have any bands like this that i should listen to?
i cant get enough of this music.

[Troggy]

Evergreen Terrace and New Found Glory have something in common?

[hockeyguitar99]

NOT happy hardcore

and radio suicide, the wonder years, daggermouth

[versus_god]

http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=406721

[Carlo Marx]

pig destroyer

[Jumpoff]

These bands are not posicore. Thanks, come again.

[AP_Punk]

Andrew W.K.

[mht]

this thread with the word happy hardcore pops up about once a month trying to describe this terrible American music fad and it makes me want to blow my brains out on how kids are so uninformed/uneducated about the music they claim they like.

[PowerCorps1985]

NOT happy hardcore

and radio suicide, the wonder years, daggermouth

ive listened to radio suicide and was not impressed. i forgot about daggermouth. yeah daggermouth rule. will try the wonder years.

[PowerCorps1985]

this thread with the word happy hardcore pops up about once a month trying to describe this terrible American music fad and it makes me want to blow my brains out on how kids are so uninformed/uneducated about the music they claim they like.

read the title again string bean. i was making fun of people calling it those names. hence the call it what you will at the end.

[PowerCorps1985]

These bands are not posicore. Thanks, come again.

read above post. k thanks.

[PowerCorps1985]

http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=406721

whats up me 8 years ago. how you doing.
if you think someone on here is in their mid twenties and havnt heard the descendents, lifetime, the ataris, slick shoes, nofx, mxpx, lagwaggon, less than jake, five iron frenzy, or the countless other punk bands we grew up on then you must be out of your goddamned gourd brother.

[PowerCorps1985]

Evergreen Terrace and New Found Glory have something in common?

listen to wolf biker and nothing gold can stay back to back. then come back and get wicked with me.

[Troggy]

listen to wolf biker and nothing gold can stay back to back. then come back and get wicked with me.

Fine, but let's be honest, who has/will ever listen to wolf biker?

[versus_god]

whats up me 8 years ago. how you doing.
if you think someone on here is in their mid twenties and havnt heard the descendents, lifetime, the ataris, slick shoes, nofx, mxpx, lagwaggon, less than jake, five iron frenzy, or the countless other punk bands we grew up on then you must be out of your goddamned gourd brother.
You'd be surprised.

[Jumpoff]

Maybe the The Menzingers (myspace.com/themenzingers)? Or The Ergs (http://www.myspace.com/theergs)?

[PowerCorps1985]

Fine, but let's be honest, who has/will ever listen to wolf biker?

dont knock it till you try it.
their sinking ship will not be abandoned.
plus its josh from casey jones in there.
god on second thought how can you not love evergreen terrace.

[PowerCorps1985]

You'd be surprised.

we have those people here in portland.
we call them haricuts.

[PowerCorps1985]

Maybe the The Menzingers (myspace.com/themenzingers)? Or The Ergs (http://www.myspace.com/theergs)?

getting close.
menzingers is closer then ergs though.
ergs is pretty pop punk.

[mht]

http://www.myspace.com/killverona


did this trend before it caught on/got popular many many years ago

[PowerCorps1985]

http://www.myspace.com/killverona


did this trend before it caught on/got popular many many years ago

now thats what i am talking about. their singer sounds a bit cheesy (like he is trying to pull off saves the day with breakdown) but i am digging the instrumentation. very good find.

[thesafeword]

There's nothing happy about this guy.

[sugarcoatedlies]

Bands that combine hardcore song structure and vocals with pop punk sensibilities and chrouses.

set your goals
four year strong
new found glory
the movielife
the sleeping
fireworks
this time next year
a day to remember
across five aprils
evergreen terrace
bombshell
daggermouth

anyone have any bands like this that i should listen to?
i cant get enough of this music.

good taste in music.
i'm gonna watch this thread for more related bands.

[versus_god]

http://www.myspace.com/notrigger

[thespearkid]

Again, there's a recommendations forum designed for this kind of thing.

[thesafeword]

Yeah!

[Bryant]

The Crosstown Rivalry!

Tie Fighter

[lew_1987]

Happy Hardcore is a type of dance music.

[absolutecrunk]

Bands that make music that is neither progressive nor innovative.

[Chris Fallon]

Seems every new band is hopping on this trend or following in the footsteps of All Time Low.

How about somebody just rips off a better brand of pop-punk? Say, Eve 6 or something.

[TheBaroness]

why don't people just call it pop-punk?

[williek311]

why don't people just call it pop-punk?
Thats what I call it.

[sputniksignals]

pig destroyer

LOL.

[sputniksignals]

Seems every new band is hopping on this trend or following in the footsteps of All Time Low.

How about somebody just rips off a better brand of pop-punk? Say, Eve 6 or something.

LOL @ people ripping off All Time Low. More the other way around

[SLoT]

Fine, but let's be honest, who has/will ever listen to wolf biker?
I love Evergreen Terrace. So I've heard Wolfbiker.

[makeasound]

LOL @ people ripping off All Time Low. More the other way around
People always rip off the "new hot band".
I've heard some ATL ripoffs lately... and most of them haven't been very good.

[sputniksignals]

People always rip off the "new hot band".
I've heard some ATL ripoffs lately... and most of them haven't been very good.

Why rip off a band that isn't that good?

[makeasound]

Why rip off a band that isn't that good?
$$$$$$$$$$

[miketrondson]

Happy Hardcore is a type of dance music.

Exactly what I was going to say.

Wouldn't Mindless Self Indulgence be a Happy Hardcore band? Shouldn't their bus crash and kill all aboard?

[Danny Schme]

dont knock it till you try it.
their sinking ship will not be abandoned.
plus its josh from casey jones in there.
god on second thought how can you not love evergreen terrace.

Bad singing, members from douche-y hardcore bands... I don't know of much to like. Plus Wolfbiker was trash, even for them.

[SLoT]

Bad singing, members from douche-y hardcore bands... I don't know of much to like. Plus Wolfbiker was trash, even for them.
I liked Wolfbiker, but its nowhere near as good as Disguise... to me anyway.

[mht]

Chaney Can´t Quite Riff Like Helmet´s Page Hamilton

[sputniksignals]

Chaney Can´t Quite Riff Like Helmet´s Page Hamilton
Your avatar made me chuckle

[wewascontenders]

http://www.myspace.com/killverona


did this trend before it caught on/got popular many many years ago

great band. seeing them in august. i can't fucking wait.

[PowerCorps1985]

http://www.myspace.com/notrigger

band rules. thanks a ton.

[Jumpoff]

great band. seeing them in august. i can't fucking wait.

Are you going to both days of that fest or just theirs?... by the way, any chance you know if you can buy tickets at the door? Haha

[PowerCorps1985]

Again, there's a recommendations forum designed for this kind of thing.

nobody reads that shit. this is where the people are. why don't you go shit in somebody else's cereal.

[thespearkid]

nobody reads that shit. this is where the people are. why don't you go shit in somebody else's cereal.
You're an idiot.

[wewascontenders]

Are you going to both days of that fest or just theirs?... by the way, any chance you know if you can buy tickets at the door? Haha

I'm trying to go both days. And yeah there will be tickets at the door.

[Jumpoff]

I'm trying to go both days. And yeah there will be tickets at the door.

Sweet deal. Thanks man. Going on the first day because of Bangarang and Algernon... need to just figure out how long the drive will be from scranton. Going to be a long one it seems.

[wewascontenders]

Sweet deal. Thanks man. Going on the first day because of Bangarang and Algernon... need to just figure out how long the drive will be from scranton. Going to be a long one it seems.

Yeah no problem. I guess I'm lucky, my drive is only like 10 minutes. Both days have great lineups so I wouldn't want to miss either.

[mht]

great band. seeing them in august. i can't fucking wait.


they really do rule.

[marsvoltamcr]

Any excuse to rep my hometown boys Title Fight.

myspace.com/titlefight

[Jumpoff]

Any excuse to rep my hometown boys Title Fight.

myspace.com/titlefight

Saw them live with Goodbye Soundscape, The Menzingers, and The Dinosores... the mics were broken so their set didn't go so well. Only set that worked out (broken mics and all) actually was the menzingers...

[marsvoltamcr]

Ahh that sucks. They usually put on an excellent show. July 29 at Cafe Metropolis with Balance & Composure. Should be good.

[mht]

Polar Bear Club is playing cafe metro in september. I expect none of you to skip that show and I will see you all there. sing alongs, high fives and floor dives.

[shit stroll]

with gaslight and american steel?

[NFG4ever]

haha what stupid names for a kind of music.

Hey man what kind of music do you listen to... Uhhh Happy Hardcore haha

[Jumpoff]

Polar Bear Club is playing cafe metro in september. I expect none of you to skip that show and I will see you all there. sing alongs, high fives and floor dives.

Damn, I really have been lazy at looking up shows lately. Hope the rest of that bill is good, been wanting Polar Bear to come around here :-D

Might have to miss Moose Fest though.. farthest I basically can drive out is the Croc Rock and I think Moose Fest is like a two hour drive..`

EDIT : holy shit, they are playing with gaslight anthem. Hahaha, I really hope I don't move to florida before this show.

[mht]

with gaslight and american steel?


yea but the new gaslight is terrible.

Damn, I really have been lazy at looking up shows lately. Hope the rest of that bill is good, been wanting Polar Bear to come around here :-D

Might have to miss Moose Fest though.. farthest I basically can drive out is the Croc Rock and I think Moose Fest is like a two hour drive..`



American Steel is good. Gaslight Anthem has tons of hype/elitists/fat kids supporting them. Kids will be traveling from all over and pack the little cafe metro. Shit will sell out


kids will definitely come from New York to enjoy their PBC loves too like last summer.

[Jumpoff]

American Steel is good. Gaslight Anthem has tons of hype/elitists/fat kids supporting them. Kids will be traveling from all over and pack the little cafe metro. Shit will sell out


kids will definitely come from New York to enjoy their PBC loves too like last summer.

Will probably end up being like the Asian Man tour. A shit load of people came from Syracuse just to see AJJ.

But yeah, I'm pretty hyped up now. I didn't know so many good shows were coming. But, I base most things off Test Pattern's and Cafe Metro's website, and they don't even have the PBC date announced on there yet.

[mht]

ill probably leave after pbc plays, ill be buying the pbr/pbc shirt.

[shit stroll]

how was that circle jerks/d4/paint it black/matt and kim show?

[mht]

went for monotonix


left after monotonix.


placed was packed. i hate the venue. shitty neighborhood. sketchy everything. kill me.

[sputniksignals]

yea but the new gaslight is terrible.





American Steel is good. Gaslight Anthem has tons of hype/elitists/fat kids supporting them. Kids will be traveling from all over and pack the little cafe metro. Shit will sell out


kids will definitely come from New York to enjoy their PBC loves too like last summer.

lol

[mht]

fat scott heisel is fat fuck that likes shit bands fat fucking fat ass. fat

[ThemChains]

Fine, but let's be honest, who has/will ever listen to wolf biker?

Made me lol.

[mht]

i listen to wolf biker

[ThemChains]

i listen to wolf biker

I haven't heard anything from Evergreen Terrace since Writer's Block. But, from what I hear, aren't they like slowly edging out the dude that screams?

[mht]

through black and blue
through thick and thin
it takes much more to break this skin
looks like we´ve finally made it
this time we finally made it

we´ve had our backs against the wall
and all you´ve said we´ve proven wrong
looks like we´ve finally made it
this time we finally made it


stage dives, high fives, head walks.

[Troggy]

I haven't heard anything from Evergreen Terrace since Writer's Block. But, from what I hear, aren't they like slowly edging out the dude that screams?

Who cares? :shrug:

[ThemChains]

Who cares? :shrug:

I was just curious. I used to be super into this band.

[mht]

troggy the scene kid woke up on the wrong side of the bed today apparently.

[Troggy]

I was just curious. I used to be super into this band.

Ohhh...they have had a plenty long career for never making anything particularly good, I guess.

[mht]

it's okay, troggy likes august burns red.


/thread.

[Troggy]

it's okay, troggy likes august burns red.


/thread.

how sweet that you remember :hug:

[mht]

lolol

[sputniksignals]

fat scott heisel is fat fuck that likes shit bands fat fucking fat ass. fat

Is he fat or something?

[mht]

very fat.

[sputniksignals]

Are we talking like baby fat or like fucking Dennis Nedry/Neuman fat?

[mht]

Are we talking like baby fat or like fucking Dennis Nedry/Neuman fat?


see if you can spot him. don't mind the horrendous music


33869297

[Chris Fallon]

LOL @ people ripping off All Time Low. More the other way around
Dude ... every new band I hear about these days came out after All Time Low and totally rips them off.

But I get what you're saying.

[Jumpoff]

see if you can spot him. don't mind the horrendous music


33869297

Looks like the Brawny guy had too much to eat.

[x togepi x]

haha i guess i'm fat.

[mht]

togepi you are as fat as that guy? no way.

[x togepi x]

no, not even close. i was just saying that because i like gaslight anthem.

[Kgod]

I think Happy Hardcore sounds great.

[sputniksignals]

Dude ... every new band I hear about these days came out after All Time Low and totally rips them off.

But I get what you're saying.

I meant more the tons of bands that ATL has as "influences" that did it before them and did it better.

[PowerCorps1985]

went for monotonix


left after monotonix.


placed was packed. i hate the venue. shitty neighborhood. sketchy everything. kill me.

i saw monotonix here in portland at the satryicon. there was like 7 of us there and they still went balls out for the show. shit was just plain out nuts. they did that thing were they had us raise the lead singer on the base drum. also when they started to play both the drums and guitar were on fire. man what a great fucking show.

[PowerCorps1985]

i listen to wolf biker

good man.

[PowerCorps1985]

I haven't heard anything from Evergreen Terrace since Writer's Block. But, from what I hear, aren't they like slowly edging out the dude that screams?

not at all. but josh (the guitar player) has upped his screams a ton. there is still plenty of loud vocals to go with the cleans.

[PowerCorps1985]

through black and blue
through thick and thin
it takes much more to break this skin
looks like we´ve finally made it
this time we finally made it

we´ve had our backs against the wall
and all you´ve said we´ve proven wrong
looks like we´ve finally made it
this time we finally made it


stage dives, high fives, head walks.


THIS SINKING SHIP WILL NOT BE ABANDONED

[mht]

i saw monotonix here in portland at the satryicon. there was like 7 of us there and they still went balls out for the show. shit was just plain out nuts. they did that thing were they had us raise the lead singer on the base drum. also when they started to play both the drums and guitar were on fire. man what a great fucking show.


one of my favorite live shows currently.


way too many people are sleeping on them.

[PowerCorps1985]

Ohhh...they have had a plenty long career for never making anything particularly good, I guess.

yeah but this is coming from the guy that reps opeth...SERIOUSLY. CMON man.

[PowerCorps1985]

yeah but this is coming from the guy that reps opeth...SERIOUSLY. CMON man.

edit: oh and incubus, what did linkin parks little rapper dude not cut it for you.

[Jumpoff]

i saw monotonix here in portland at the satryicon. there was like 7 of us there and they still went balls out for the show. shit was just plain out nuts. they did that thing were they had us raise the lead singer on the base drum. also when they started to play both the drums and guitar were on fire. man what a great fucking show.

Wow. Now I really want to see those guys live.

[PowerCorps1985]

one of my favorite live shows currently.


way too many people are sleeping on them.

ive been saying for years that unless a band has some haricuts and a fucking zillion myspace plays then people miss out on the best shows. in portland we have a band that sing about literature and every show they get like 400 books and throw them at the audience while they play. we also have a pirate band that fights a ninja band at different venues with their sets. most kids are fucking idiots when it comes to seeing bands. most of the times the $5 shows are better then the $20.

[Jumpoff]

ive been saying for years that unless a band has some haricuts and a fucking zillion myspace plays then people miss out on the best shows. in portland we have a band that sing about literature and every show they get like 400 books and throw them at the audience while they play. we also have a pirate band that fights a ninja band at different venues with their sets. most kids are fucking idiots when it comes to seeing bands. most of the times the $5 shows are better then the $20.

You get some fucking nice shows your way apparently.... only time I saw something at all like that was when this one band from my area decided to read from the bible (mockingly basically) between songs and throw bibles at people while playing.

[PowerCorps1985]

Wow. Now I really want to see those guys live.

make it happen
http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/hive/Kenn-Man/picard3.jpg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CUdpA-MgyZI

[PowerCorps1985]

You get some fucking nice shows your way apparently.... only time I saw something at all like that was when this one band from my area decided to read from the bible (mockingly basically) between songs and throw bibles at people while playing.

the great thing about portland is that it rains so much everyone is forced to be inside all the time making us all artists in some form or another. every night there are like 12 bands, 5 open mic nights, 2 art openings, book readings, plays, cheap ass movies with dollar pabst (next week im seeing aliens for 3 bucks at the theatre). that and we have the best bar culture makes this town rule.

[Troggy]

yeah but this is coming from the guy that reps opeth...SERIOUSLY. CMON man.

hahahahahahaahhaa if you think evergreen terrace has anything on Opeth you need to leave now.

edit: oh and incubus, what did linkin parks little rapper dude not cut it for you.

If you had listened to anything Incubus has done in the last 10 years, you wouldn't make such an idiotic statement.

[PowerCorps1985]

If you think Evergreen terrace has anything on either of those bands you should probably just leave now.

and if you think that is the case, you sir are a dumbass.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff127/tetrabinary/Two/Three/fail_truck.gif

[Troggy]

and if you think that is the case, you sir are a dumbass.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff127/tetrabinary/Two/Three/fail_truck.gif

hahahahaha

[PowerCorps1985]

well at least your a good sport and hopefully we can do business in the future.

[Troggy]

well at least your a good sport and hopefully we can do business in the future.

Yeah, work on your music taste, though.

[PowerCorps1985]

Yeah, work on your music taste, though.

dont you dare make me make that incubus statement again brother.

[PowerCorps1985]

Any excuse to rep my hometown boys Title Fight.

myspace.com/titlefight

title fight rule. this thread is for sure doing its job.

[Jumpoff]

title fight rule. this thread is for sure doing its job.

Maybe you'll like :

http://www.myspace.com/erectionkids

since you like Title Fight.

I wish I could get a ride out to Doylestown for the fest. I just found out today that there's no way.

[Colorblind!]

TIEFIGHTER.
www.myspace.com/tiefighter

[PowerCorps1985]

Maybe you'll like :

http://www.myspace.com/erectionkids

since you like Title Fight.

I wish I could get a ride out to Doylestown for the fest. I just found out today that there's no way.

singer is not bad but not good enough either. but the band backing him is bitchin. what are those dudes doing now?

[PowerCorps1985]

TIEFIGHTER.
www.myspace.com/tiefighter

fuck yeah tiefighter. i completely forgot about these guys. i heard them some time ago and just plain out forgot. thanks brother.

[Jumpoff]

singer is not bad but not good enough either. but the band backing him is bitchin. what are those dudes doing now?



No clue what they are doing now, but they are playing their last show at the aforementioned fest on August 10th. Same with Bangarang, who you might also like..

http://www.myspace.com/bangaranghoes

or Dead to Me
http://www.myspace.com/deadtomesf

[versus_god]

or Dead to Me
http://www.myspace.com/deadtomesf
:inlove:

[Jumpoff]

:inlove:

By the way! I think the Ergs are gaining a lot more fans on here lately haha

[versus_god]

By the way! I think the Ergs are gaining a lot more fans on here lately haha
They're my default recommendation.

[EchoPark]

Bands that combine hardcore song structure and vocals with pop punk sensibilities and chrouses.

set your goals
four year strong
new found glory
the movielife
the sleeping
fireworks
this time next year
a day to remember
across five aprils
evergreen terrace
bombshell
daggermouth

anyone have any bands like this that i should listen to?
i cant get enough of this music.


Only bands on this list that I listen to and like are Four Year Strong and New Found Glory. Tried giving A Day to Remember a listen but after track 2 it turns into shitty growling metalcore.

[PowerCorps1985]

Only bands on this list that I listen to and like are Four Year Strong and New Found Glory. Tried giving A Day to Remember a listen but after track 2 it turns into shitty growling metalcore.

give that album another spin man. dont let that dudes tremendously awesome screaming ability overshadow his other tremendously awesome ability...which is one of the best clean vocals in current music.

[sputniksignals]

This whole concept of this kind of music being a "genre" of itself is stupid. It's pop punk. What influences the instrumentation and vocals and whatnot does nothing to distinguish it as a separate genre from pop punk or hardcore. It's clearly not hardcore, but there's no real meshing of the genres so to speak.

[Wyatt!!!]

Syracuse Me
www.myspace.com/syracusememusic (http://www.myspace.com/syracuseme)

[Protested Hero]

Jesus christ. Every single time one of these topics is made a bunch of idiots come in here to tell everyone "LOL ITS TECHNO". Who gives a shit? You know exactly what kind of music they're looking for. Some people just have way too much time on their hands.

Regardless. Yes most of those bands listed were pop-punk, but that really isn't the point.

If you want to listen to why most of those bands are even making the music they are listen to Saves the Day's first two albums, Can't Slow Down and Through Being Cool.

[mht]

yea but calling this shit happy hardcore is like calling Brand New hip hop.



that techno style is 100000000000000000000000000000x more popular than this shit fad in America, that will die out in two years when everyone realizes they look and sound fucking stupid.

[PowerCorps1985]

This whole concept of this kind of music being a "genre" of itself is stupid. It's pop punk. What influences the instrumentation and vocals and whatnot does nothing to distinguish it as a separate genre from pop punk or hardcore. It's clearly not hardcore, but there's no real meshing of the genres so to speak.

i consider it pop punk with hardcore tendencies. like pop punk with breakdowns and two step parts.

[PowerCorps1985]

Jesus christ. Every single time one of these topics is made a bunch of idiots come in here to tell everyone "LOL ITS TECHNO". Who gives a shit? You know exactly what kind of music they're looking for. Some people just have way too much time on their hands.

Regardless. Yes most of those bands listed were pop-punk, but that really isn't the point.

If you want to listen to why most of those bands are even making the music they are listen to Saves the Day's first two albums, Can't Slow Down and Through Being Cool.

oh about the saves the day thing. no doi, why dont you tell me to look up a band called lifetime too. i dont own their albums either probably cause i dont have a gajillion posts.

[PowerCorps1985]

yea but calling this shit happy hardcore is like calling Brand New hip hop.



that techno style is 100000000000000000000000000000x more popular than this shit fad in America, that will die out in two years when everyone realizes they look and sound fucking stupid.

not in america its not.

[mht]

it pulls more units in 1 day than any of these pop punk bands can pull in their careers.

[PowerCorps1985]

it pulls more units in 1 day than any of these pop punk bands can pull in their careers.

those numbers seem made up, are you making up numbers?
but seriously no one listens to happy hardcore techno over here. i mean im sure there are some that do but set your goals hella outsells them here.

[wewascontenders]

singer is not bad but not good enough either. but the band backing him is bitchin. what are those dudes doing now?

Balance and Composure (http://www.myspace.com/balanceandcomposure)

[Protested Hero]

oh about the saves the day thing. no doi, why dont you tell me to look up a band called lifetime too. i dont own their albums either probably cause i dont have a gajillion posts.

Uh, what. I was just trying to help people out by recommending them. Don't assume everyone in this topic has heard those albums. Learn not to be an idiot.

[Protested Hero]

yea but calling this shit happy hardcore is like calling Brand New hip hop.



that techno style is 100000000000000000000000000000x more popular than this shit fad in America, that will die out in two years when everyone realizes they look and sound fucking stupid.

Unfortunately it's a name that's being used a lot in America. Yeah, it's just pop-punk with occasional heaviness and breakdowns. It's like calling music emo, not many know the actual meaning behind it but say it anyway and it stuck.

[mht]

people that dont know meaning behind emo are just misinformed, uneducated, and stupid for believing everything they see in the mainstream.


it's like saying if wikipedia, the television, alt press, mtv told you to jump off a bridge... would you listen to them then too?

[Protested Hero]

people that dont know meaning behind emo are just misinformed, uneducated, and stupid for believing everything they see in the mainstream.


it's like saying if wikipedia, the television, alt press, mtv told you to jump off a bridge... would you listen to them then too?

Regardless, it's what the general population believes and therefore what most people see it as. It doesn't matter if it's correct or not because we don't have info police going around informing the uninformed.

That being said, I've never even heard of Happy Hardcore Trance or whatever until I came to these boards. I really don't see how it could be popular. At least not in my area.

[mht]

if you went to europe for 1 day, you would hear of it.

[Jumpoff]

Regardless. Yes most of those bands listed were pop-punk, but that really isn't the point.


Not pop punk. :sleep:

[mht]

even then... happy hardcore to describe these bands is an oxymoron...


yea sure their guitars are tuned higher, and the music is more whatever... but they are singing about missing girls, being sad, singing about pirates and other stupid shit.


positive/happy bands singing about friends/family/unity/doing whats right, also may have heavy toned guitars and music... but still more "happy" in terms of their message. unlike what these bands are playing

[Protested Hero]

even then... happy hardcore to describe these bands is an oxymoron...


yea sure their guitars are tuned higher, and the music is more whatever... but they are singing about missing girls, being sad, singing about pirates and other stupid shit.


positive/happy bands singing about friends/family/unity/doing whats right, also may have heavy toned guitars and music... but still more "happy" in terms of their message. unlike what these bands are playing

Uh. I'm not sure what songs you've been listening to, but I haven't really noticed that in a lot of bands that I listen to that people would call "happy hardcore". I'm actually listening to Set Your Goals right now and the song is about religion, so I don't think it's all about missing girls.

Also, I live in America, not England, so the whole Happy Hardcore being popular thing is not relevant to me.

[Protested Hero]

Not pop punk. :sleep:

To me they are.

[sputniksignals]

Every band mentioned in this thread is pop-punk. There is no way around that.

[mht]

Uh. I'm not sure what songs you've been listening to, but I haven't really noticed that in a lot of bands that I listen to that people would call "happy hardcore". I'm actually listening to Set Your Goals right now and the song is about religion, so I don't think it's all about missing girls.

Also, I live in America, not England, so the whole Happy Hardcore being popular thing is not relevant to me.


the quick bullet: a tough one to dodge
no one ever does
it cuts fast and deep, keeps you from sleep
and you just have to let it bleed
i know the pain
it's all too familiar
if i could sing
words to help you know i would

and they would end the pain
but you will have to let this make you stronger
it's difficult to overcome

the name of a ghost still dancing on our tongues
so bittersweet, these memories
i wish they could have taken me
struggle through tough times
and destroy all your fears
DON'T LET THIS WIN OVER YOU

soon you will end the pain
and you will say that it did make you stronger
this is how you overcome
and we’ve all heard it sung
we really don't know what we've got 'til it's gone
and then we want it back so much
voices fade away
voices fade away
as the memory remains
memory remains
nobody ever warned you
ever warned you

breathe in
take it in deep
cross your heart, it's yours for you to keep
wishful
i guess i never was
i am looking up now, death can change us
breathe in
take it in deep
cross your heart, it's yours for you to keep
wishful
i guess i never was
i am looking up now, death can change us
and i will keep pieces of you
alive in me, your spirit carries on
and i will keep pieces of you
alive in me, your spirit carries on

i will stand alone
i will learn from this, i will
i will mourn the loss
and I will be stronger
i will stand alone
i will learn from this, i will
i will mourn the loss
and I will be stronger










I VALUE YOU MORE THAN
you will ever know

i know i'm not the only one
concerned about where this has gone
the feelings that we both once shared
they still exist; they went nowhere

and you, you know it's true
for you i am still here
i hate to see it end this way
it plagues my conscience every day
and i want nothing more
all i need lies in you
don't say this is the end

i know i'm not the only one
who wishes we could get along
the hanging out from eight to three
never wanting to fall asleep

i just hope that you
will work with me
to make this right we can't
just give up it's not fair
this road is long if you
will work with me
then i can say i won't
just give up it's not fair

you know it's true
don't pretend that you don't
tomorrow if we don't speak
a piece of my heart you will keep
and we, we know it's true
this is harder than i thought
this can't be how it ends
this can't be how this ends

you have me waiting
waiting
waiting in suspense
i just don't want it
tell me where you stand
quit walking on a fence
please just don't tell me
so tell me
tell me
that you don't know what i mean
so wake up
this is not a dream

time is running on
and it isn't slowing down
never on my side
you hate when i'm around
show me, show me what you said
is what, what you truly meant
don't say that i have to
lose another friend

this very moment
nothing else is this important
this very moment
nothing else is this important

show me what you said
is truly what you meant




Look me in the eyes and tell the truth: what was going through your head?
I'd hang up the phone at times, and I'd wish that you were dead.
'Cause you were never there.
It made me think you never cared.
Growing up and it's not fair.
I'd turn around and hope to see you there, but you were nowhere to be found.

So spare me. You're still just a stranger to me.

(Broken!)
Will you ever be...
(Shadow!)
...more than a stranger to me?

The closer I get to you, the harder it hits.
Now you walk away. Don't look back on family you never had and never will.
The closer I get to you the harder it hits, and it hits so hard.

I force myself to remember memories that were never there.
Your face is a broken shadow.
Now all I want is to go home. I never did figure out what those words were all about.

Tell me! Tell me just how many times you let me down. (let down!)
The countless times that I waited for you in vain.
Tell me what was going through your head?
Did you second guess those things that were never said?
'Cause you were never there. It made me think you never cared.
Did you ever care? I guess I'll never know...


10 o’ clock on Monday night, and I’m still in the past
Feelings change, and people fade, but the memories, they last
I missed the chance, slipped through my hands, I wish I could go back

I’d change it all. The words I’d say, reflecting back on yesterday

But now I’ve turned the tables
and I’ve had time to make amends and find my friends
Oh, I’ve made mistakes, I know this. But I can’t change the past
And I can’t change you

10 o’ clock on Monday night, and I’m still in the past
Feelings change, and people fade, but the memories, they last
Can’t change you! I’m stuck in the past!



ya know, I could keep going... but I'll stop there... nothing happy at all about that shit. like I said, just because the guitars are tuned high doesn't mean these mother fuckers still dont cry.

[x togepi x]

Protested Hero,

it astounds me how in every argument you get in on this forum, you make the most idiotic points that you could make.

1) if it's your contention that we should call this music happy-hardcore because that's what "most people" are going to say this style of music is, then you're being an idiot since the techno called "happy hardcore" is way more popular, both in Europe and the United States.

2) if its your contention that we should call it happy hardcore because you've never heard of this genre before coming to AP.net, well then you're just an ignorant moron. Of course, we knew this from having a name that references a worthless band like Protest the Hero.

The forum would be a much better place if you took your Say Anything-hyping, generic pop rock loving self away from here because you couldn't understand a genre if your life depended on it.

and some day it will because you'll call Waking The Cadaver "death metal" because you scenesters like that shit, and some Mayhem junkie will make your skull into another cereal bowl.

[Audition101]

Why do you guys have to put a genre label on everything? It's stupid. Listen to what you want and who gives a shit what it's called.

[x togepi x]

Every band mentioned in this thread is pop-punk. There is no way around that.

None of the bands mentioned in this thread are pop punk. Pop punk= punk bands with pop sensibilities. What people here think is pop punk is really the opposite: pop rock bands with punk aesthetic/sensibilities. I can see how it would be a hard distinction to understand without hearing it but there really is a big difference between a real pop punk band and these bands.

[sputniksignals]

None of the bands mentioned in this thread are pop punk. Pop punk= punk bands with pop sensibilities. What people here think is pop punk is really the opposite: pop rock bands with punk aesthetic/sensibilities. I can see how it would be a hard distinction to understand without hearing it but there really is a big difference between a real pop punk band and these bands.

I see.

[x togepi x]

I see.

it's like the one genre people mislabel that i can actually understand the logic behind it.

[ForeverDelayed]

So I haven't read anything but the first page and last page, because I could tell already that it wasn't about the actual genre known as happy hardcore. And I'm not really big on this new "hxc" crap. But could someone please tell me (or point to the already posted answer in this thread) what the hell is "posi"? Thanks.

[Jumpoff]

None of the bands mentioned in this thread are pop punk. Pop punk= punk bands with pop sensibilities. What people here think is pop punk is really the opposite: pop rock bands with punk aesthetic/sensibilities. I can see how it would be a hard distinction to understand without hearing it but there really is a big difference between a real pop punk band and these bands.

A++. Said it so I didn't have to attempt to myself.

[PowerCorps1985]

wow, this thread morphed into a bitching fest.

[alex vs hero]

check out me vs hero

and fight fair

[sputniksignals]

check out me vs hero

and fight fair
No thanks

[Bryant]

check out me vs hero

and fight fair
Good stuff.

[mht]

So I haven't read anything but the first page and last page, because I could tell already that it wasn't about the actual genre known as happy hardcore. And I'm not really big on this new "hxc" crap. But could someone please tell me (or point to the already posted answer in this thread) what the hell is "posi"? Thanks.


"posi" is like youth crew bands, "posi" here are people trying to say commercial pop punk bands that use open chord breakdowns tuned the highest point. Nothing posi about that garbage at all.




some youth crewish bands:

youth of today
chain of strength
ten yard fight
the first step

etc etc

[Protested Hero]

Protested Hero,

it astounds me how in every argument you get in on this forum, you make the most idiotic points that you could make.

1) if it's your contention that we should call this music happy-hardcore because that's what "most people" are going to say this style of music is, then you're being an idiot since the techno called "happy hardcore" is way more popular, both in Europe and the United States.

2) if its your contention that we should call it happy hardcore because you've never heard of this genre before coming to AP.net, well then you're just an ignorant moron. Of course, we knew this from having a name that references a worthless band like Protest the Hero.

The forum would be a much better place if you took your Say Anything-hyping, generic pop rock loving self away from here because you couldn't understand a genre if your life depended on it.

and some day it will because you'll call Waking The Cadaver "death metal" because you scenesters like that shit, and some Mayhem junkie will make your skull into another cereal bowl.

I was implying that most people on here know a lot more about this kind of music than the "happy hardcore techno". I never said that that's what we should call it.

I again never told anyone to call this music a certain name, I was attacking those who come in here just to say "YOURE FUCKING DUMB ITS TECHNO DUDE".

You will never give anyone their own opinion unless they listen to what you say is great music. Every single time I come into a thread, you just attack me saying "YOU LIKE SAY ANYTHING YOU SUCK AT MUSIC". Grow up.

I don't think I've encountered a more ignorant person in my entire posting history on this web site. Learn to accept bands that other people like and stop being such a fucking douche bag.

Though in my lifetime I highly doubt that I will live up to the genre-defining standards of the great togepi, but in that time I'll continue to listen to Protest The Hero, Say Anything and generic pop-rock. Oh and Waking the Cadaver, because I absolutely love them. Along with Chiodos and Metro Station. You're so original it's hurting my sides.

[ThemChains]

I was implying that most people on here know a lot more about this kind of music than the "happy hardcore techno". I never said that that's what we should call it.

I again never told anyone to call this music a certain name, I was attacking those who come in here just to say "YOURE FUCKING DUMB ITS TECHNO DUDE".

You will never give anyone their own opinion unless they listen to what you say is great music. Every single time I come into a thread, you just attack me saying "YOU LIKE SAY ANYTHING YOU SUCK AT MUSIC". Grow up.

I don't think I've encountered a more ignorant person in my entire posting history on this web site. Learn to accept bands that other people like and stop being such a fucking douche bag.

Though in my lifetime I highly doubt that I will live up to the genre-defining standards of the great togepi, but in that time I'll continue to listen to Protest The Hero, Say Anything and generic pop-rock.

The time you took to post that is time you will never get back.

[mht]

he still hasn't proved me wrong with the 5 songs of set your goals lyrics i posted with them all crying over the same fucking thing, thus not being "happy"

[ThemChains]

he still hasn't proved me wrong with the 5 songs of set your goals lyrics i posted with them all crying over the same fucking thing, thus not being "happy"

or posi

[Protested Hero]

he still hasn't proved me wrong with the 5 songs of set your goals lyrics i posted with them all crying over the same fucking thing, thus not being "happy"

That's because I don't care. You proved me wrong. Should I bow down? I don't get it.

People on this site are way too uptight. I told you the bands I listen to I really don't get the sense of crying over girls and what not. I don't get why you care.

[Protested Hero]

The time you took to post that is time you will never get back.

LOL so funnydude.

[ThemChains]

That's because I don't care. You proved me wrong. Should I bow down? I don't get it.

People on this site are way too uptight. I told you the bands I listen to I really don't get the sense of crying over girls and what not. I don't get why you care.

This coming from the man who is posting essays in defense of the music people are making fun of.

[mht]

Yea but you are saying they are HAPPY and POSITIVE.


THERE IS NOTHING HAPPY AND POSITIVE about those fucking lyrics. JUST BECAUSE THEY TUNE THEIR GUITARS TO FUCKING A FLAT MINUS DROP A DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE HAPPY. THEY STILL CRY AND BITCH AND MOAN AND YOU LISTEN TO YOU IT AND HEAR HIGH END GUITARS AND THINK OOO THIS IS FUN. Get fucked.

[Protested Hero]

Yea but you are saying they are HAPPY and POSITIVE.


THERE IS NOTHING HAPPY AND POSITIVE about those fucking lyrics. JUST BECAUSE THEY TUNE THEIR GUITARS TO FUCKING A FLAT MINUS DROP A DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE HAPPY. THEY STILL CRY AND BITCH AND MOAN AND YOU LISTEN TO YOU IT AND HEAR HIGH END GUITARS AND THINK OOO THIS IS FUN. Get fucked.

Chill. I never said every SYG song was uplifting and happy. I said the one I was listening to was about the bible. A lot of bands that I listen to that people would consider "Happy Hardcore" on this site do have uplifting lyrics, you're just singling out Set Your Goals, which is something I did not do. People consider bands like New Found Glory and shit happy hardcore on AP, not saying I agree with them, along with a lot of pop and pop punk bands.

[mht]

Yea every NFG single ever released has been about a girl, being sad, head on collisions, digging graves, being whipped, etc etc.... real fucking happy that band is. always crying.

[Protested Hero]

Once again. I never said they were. I was saying that people have a misconception of what Happy Hardcore is on the site. My first post in this entire topic was to just tell those attacking those people to loosen up. People get way too worked up over genres. It's really not that big of a deal.

[ThemChains]

Once again. I never said they were. I was saying that people have a misconception of what Happy Hardcore is on the site. My first post in this entire topic was to just tell those attacking those people to loosen up. People get way too worked up over genres. It's really not that big of a deal.

Again, the pot is calling the kettle black.

[Troggy]

The time you took to post that is time you will never get back.

:appl:

[x togepi x]

I was implying that most people on here know a lot more about this kind of music than the "happy hardcore techno". I never said that that's what we should call it.

I again never told anyone to call this music a certain name, I was attacking those who come in here just to say "YOURE FUCKING DUMB ITS TECHNO DUDE".

You will never give anyone their own opinion unless they listen to what you say is great music. Every single time I come into a thread, you just attack me saying "YOU LIKE SAY ANYTHING YOU SUCK AT MUSIC". Grow up.

I don't think I've encountered a more ignorant person in my entire posting history on this web site. Learn to accept bands that other people like and stop being such a fucking douche bag.

Though in my lifetime I highly doubt that I will live up to the genre-defining standards of the great togepi, but in that time I'll continue to listen to Protest The Hero, Say Anything and generic pop-rock. Oh and Waking the Cadaver, because I absolutely love them. Along with Chiodos and Metro Station. You're so original it's hurting my sides.

I don't think you even know what the word ignorant means since you're the one who won't accept people liking different bands or actually know what the genres are. everytime you get in an argument here you bump threads that obviously already dead to make inane points and whine because "omg, i don't like shitty pop rock and you do and i feel like calling you out on the moron that you are", which, as i've pointed out, has nothing to do with the horrible music you like, and everything to do with the stupid posts you make.

[kwsqd]

:appl:
are you familiar with lethal llama?

[Protested Hero]

Again, the pot is calling the kettle black.

True.

[Protested Hero]

I don't think you even know what the word ignorant means since you're the one who won't accept people liking different bands or actually know what the genres are. everytime you get in an argument here you bump threads that obviously already dead to make inane points and whine because "omg, i don't like shitty pop rock and you do and i feel like calling you out on the moron that you are", which, as i've pointed out, has nothing to do with the horrible music you like, and everything to do with the stupid posts you make.

Lol. Like whatever bands you want.

[x togepi x]

Lol. Like whatever bands you want.

way to miss the point: anytime you get corrected, you whine and moan about "elitism" and act like we really give a shit that you listen to max bemis's inane ramblings in your room alone. i'm smart enough to realize that has nothing to do with the functionally worthless arguments you're putting out.

but you're the most ignorant person posting because you act like knowing what genres really are doesn't matter when there are actually real world implications to fucking these things up.

[born to expire]

this thread reeks of idiocy. listen to 7 seconds.

[Troggy]

this thread wreaks of idiocy. listen to 7 seconds.

reeks?

[IWasaCamera]

Good read.

[born to expire]

reeks?

you got me. totally braindead at work right now.

[Troggy]

you got me. totally braindead at work right now.

;-)

[PowerCorps1985]

...what the fuck happened in the last 3 pages? almost nothing to do with the topic, thats what.
i liiiiikkkee crime in stereooooo

[ForeverDelayed]

"posi" is like youth crew bands, "posi" here are people trying to say commercial pop punk bands that use open chord breakdowns tuned the highest point. Nothing posi about that garbage at all.




some youth crewish bands:

youth of today
chain of strength
ten yard fight
the first step

etc etc
I guess my next question would be what is youth crew. Sounds like a group that would meet after Sunday school or something. I've never heard of any of those bands. When I get done on here I might google 'em and see what exactly it is we're talking about here.

[mht]

I guess my next question would be what is youth crew. Sounds like a group that would meet after Sunday school or something. I've never heard of any of those bands. When I get done on here I might google 'em and see what exactly it is we're talking about here.



a style of hardcore-punk where the bands had straight edge, veganism, political, moral, fraternal etc etc views.

[Chris Fallon]

:rolleyes:

[sputniksignals]

:rolleyes:
:shhh:

[born to expire]

I guess my next question would be what is youth crew. Sounds like a group that would meet after Sunday school or something. I've never heard of any of those bands. When I get done on here I might google 'em and see what exactly it is we're talking about here.

Youth Crew pretty much originated with Youth of Today but was heavily influenced by bands like 7 Seconds, Warzone, and DYS. It referred to the "crew" of straight edge kids/"youth" in NYC/CT/etc. in the mid 80s. Youth of Today had a song called "Youth Crew"; these are the lyrics:

Me you youth crew!
if the world was flat I'd grind the edge
to the positive youth my heart I pledge
X on my hand now take the oath
to positive youth to positive growth
to positive minds, to pure clean souls
these will be all my goals
walk with me and my crew
there is so much shit we can do
and we won't stop until we're through

Clearly not as good lyrically as their later material but whatever. Anyway, they influenced a ton of bands in the late 80s like Bold, Turning Point, Wide Awake, Gorilla Biscuits, etc. The sound/clothing/look/etc. was referred to as youth crew hardcore and the rest is history.

This is a pretty good (and more in-depth) explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_Crew


hilarious video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nFUqrzCZOuo

http://bp3.blogger.com/_NBJcnNCo1Z8/SD-BS6SLybI/AAAAAAAAAV8/35fxFMhYFr8/s1600/YCBW.jpg

[Protested Hero]

way to miss the point: anytime you get corrected, you whine and moan about "elitism" and act like we really give a shit that you listen to max bemis's inane ramblings in your room alone. i'm smart enough to realize that has nothing to do with the functionally worthless arguments you're putting out.

but you're the most ignorant person posting because you act like knowing what genres really are doesn't matter when there are actually real world implications to fucking these things up.

Hahahaha. Thanks for that.

[Danny Schme]

Funny thread - would read again

[ForeverDelayed]

Youth Crew pretty much originated with Youth of Today but was heavily influenced by bands like 7 Seconds, Warzone, and DYS. It referred to the "crew" of straight edge kids/"youth" in NYC/CT/etc. in the mid 80s. Youth of Today had a song called "Youth Crew"; these are the lyrics:

Me you youth crew!
if the world was flat I'd grind the edge
to the positive youth my heart I pledge
X on my hand now take the oath
to positive youth to positive growth
to positive minds, to pure clean souls
these will be all my goals
walk with me and my crew
there is so much shit we can do
and we won't stop until we're through

Clearly not as good lyrically as their later material but whatever. Anyway, they influenced a ton of bands in the late 80s like Bold, Turning Point, Wide Awake, Gorilla Biscuits, etc. The sound/clothing/look/etc. was referred to as youth crew hardcore and the rest is history.

This is a pretty good (and more in-depth) explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_Crew


hilarious video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nFUqrzCZOuo

http://bp3.blogger.com/_NBJcnNCo1Z8/SD-BS6SLybI/AAAAAAAAAV8/35fxFMhYFr8/s1600/YCBW.jpg
Okay, thanks. I've heard Gorilla Biscuits, but I've never seen them labeled as anything but hardcore. The others I'm not familiar with.

[PowerCorps1985]

now that i think about it, comeback kids wake the dead is pretty goddamned poppy. like the chorus on the title track is epic and catchy. man i love this band. andrew is doing a fine job but scott really made that bands sound.

[jds10912]

yea sure their guitars are tuned higher, and the music is more whatever... but they are singing about missing girls, being sad, singing about pirates and other stupid shit.
this song is definitely not about a girl

[PowerCorps1985]

can someone pm with the wonder years new ep and first full length? cant find any torrents

[wewascontenders]

check it. has split with bangarang too.

[PowerCorps1985]

im trying to get ahold of as much easycore as i can. can someone pm me some daggermouth, no trigger, and tiefighter. it would make my workout sessions alot more fun.

[pcyph]

I call it pop-core,

cause it sounds like popcorn. :shrug:

[wewascontenders]

who gives a fuck what you call it.

[pcyph]

Who gives a fuck if you wonder who gives a fuck what I call it?

Also you require a question mark at the end of your question. :-)

[Until The Bombs]

People need to stop adding "core" to the end of other genres.

[pcyph]

People need to stop adding "core" to the end of other genres.

yea probably agreed, my statement was a joke anyways.

Music is music, nowadays it's hard to place everything in a genre,

I'll stick with:

"Rock"
"Country"
"Hip-Hop"
"R&B"
"Techno"
"Other"


maybe a few more, but you get the jist, if I like a band it doesn't matter what genre their in.

Let's not forget the first perpetrator of the suffix core was emocore, which produced some amazing bands. Still agreed though.

[StreetSurgery]

Easycore.

[wewascontenders]

i say fuck genres. and i put what i want at the end of my sentences.

[pcyph]

i say fuck genres. and i put what i want at the end of my sentences.

I just say what bands sound like the band I'm trying to show to someone, rather than saying,

"LoLz Oh yea, they're TOTALLY post-easycore indie subpop electronica LOL"

[wewascontenders]

i tell people to listen for themselves.

[pcyph]

i tell people to listen for themselves.

Yea but, if I give someone a CD and they can't listen to them on the spot it helps to say, "oh yea, this band sounds a bit like Everytime I Die" or whoever.

[summer skin]

i say fuck genres. and i put what i want at the end of my sentences.
I say fuck bitches, get money.

[Until The Bombs]

I say fuck money, get bitches.

[summer skin]

I say fuck money, get bitches.
I say G's up, hoes down.

[wewascontenders]

I say get money, buy bitches.

[pcyph]

I say get money, buy bitches.

I say get bitches, buy money.


oh wait.

[PowerCorps1985]

bump the fuck out of this

[PowerCorps1985]

Confirmed list of bands that rule

Four year strong
Set your goals
Day to remember
The wonder years
Take notice
We are the union
Daggermouth
Tiefighter
Evergreen Terrace
The Movielife
New Found Glory
The Swellers
The trophy Boys
Fireworks
This time next year

anyone find anything to add this

[shit stroll]

:chairhit:

[HangsLikeHeaven]

lol wow

[Hey Kevin]

Confirmed list of bands that rule

Four year strong
Set your goals
Day to remember
The wonder years
Take notice
We are the union
Daggermouth
Tiefighter
Evergreen Terrace
The Movielife
New Found Glory
The Swellers
The trophy Boys
Fireworks
This time next year

anyone find anything to add this

:puke:

[omgits]

anyone ever heard of a shipwreck a castaway? damn goood pop punk harcorey whateverness
myspace.com/ashipwreckacastawayband

[shit stroll]

ahahaha this thread.

[x togepi x]

i should start posting like that again instead of just typing random shit in general. i stand by all of it. you guys are idiots.