Terminator Salvation (Official Thread)

[WordzandDreamz]

Just got back from seeing The Dark Knight and I got to see the Terminator preview.

There was a description on the net awhile back and this trailer is not that one at all.

It is def. just a teaser, but its got me pumped up. (The Terminator theme always does).

I figured I would start the thread so when people see the trailer we can discuss how McG could fuck this up or perhaps how Christian Bale could outweigh the McGness.

[sputniksignals]

Ew Columbia.


Regardless, I think Christian Bale = John Connor. I think Baleness wilil prevail

[AshesAshes]

This could be good, 3 was garbage. T2 is still a classic

[popdisaster00]

I liked 3.

[sputniksignals]

The ending of 3 was the best ending ever









because it was over! Lulz

[TheGuillotine]

I still haven't brought myself to see number 3, from what people tell me, im not missing much.

[tait]

there will be a trailer for this before TDK correct? anyways i still can't wait to see it

[WordzandDreamz]

there will be a trailer for this before TDK correct? anyways i still can't wait to see it

Yes, cause that's how I saw it. With the State of Play trailer. I just didn't get to see the Watchmen trailer.

[tait]

really? how is it?

[krishasaheadake]

I have faith that Christian Bale will be great as John Conner. But McG? . . . eeehhhh I'll wait till I see it to judge.

[tait]

i believe that christian bale will do a good job, i like all of his movies

[DeathCabForCoon]

Yes, cause that's how I saw it. With the State of Play trailer. I just didn't get to see the Watchmen trailer.


was it because there was no Watchmen trailer? Or did you miss it?

[WordzandDreamz]

was it because there was no Watchmen trailer? Or did you miss it?

The print I saw was for a press screening, so it only had the attached trailers, so it wasn't on it.

[airik625]

I guess I'll be seeing the teaser for this tomorrow night. I hope it's cool.

[dissident]

christian bale is perfect casting for an adult conner.

[tait]

christian bale is perfect casting for an adult conner.
agreed

[Chris Fallon]

I like all three Terminator films. If Bale wasn't in this, I wouldn't give a shit.

[googirl8907]

This was shot close to me.

[Deadwomb88]

Im gonna have to hear rave reviews to see this in theaters.

[dissident]

the terminator saga stopped at 2 for me when james cameron's involvement ended. i'll see this for bale but basically just to see bale be a badass and some nostalgia.

[coryatlarge]

arnolds in it? i read an interview (it was posted in one of TDK threads) with the directors that said he would have a very small part..... like as small as just a cameo.... i wish i had the interview....

[eMart]

Teaser Trailer was finally released:

3JwQcWpG3X0&eurl=http://www.slashfilm.com/

I know it's just a teaser and we don't see much...but I think it's actually looking kind of decent so far.

[Foxholes]

Teaser Trailer was finally released:

That teaser is down. Hurry before this one is too:
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[tait]

that didn't tease me at all haha

[FondestMemory]

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810025211/trailer

there's the official site for the trailer in case that youtube gets taken down.

[airik625]

I completely forgot that the teaser was attached to TDK. It was awesome.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Even though I loved the ending of 3, they completely shit all over the "there is no fate" aspect of T2, which is one of my fav movies ever.

[sweetforever]

I thought McG wasn't involved in this one? Guess I'm wrong, teaser looks good though.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

Despite my displeasure at what happens in the plot of the movie, from what I gather from the teaser, it actually looks really good. Seems like it'll have a interesting atmosphere at the very lease. Kinda surprising to see this from McG.

I like all three Terminator films. If Bale wasn't in this, I wouldn't give a shit.
I feel the same. I'm happy to see him in it though.

[dissident]

that looks so much better than number 3, that's a great trailer period.

[FondestMemory]

i still have zero interest in this.

the story died after t2.

[Until The Bombs]

Teaser looks rad.

[dissident]

i still have zero interest in this.

the story died after t2.

i love the original two as much as anyone but you can't tell me that trailer doesn't look promising, for a any movie terminator or not.

[FondestMemory]

i love the original two as much as anyone but you can't tell me that trailer doesn't look promising, for a any movie terminator or not.

just doesn't do anything for me. i still have zero interest.

to me the story was over with 2. i have no need for anymore story from it. and i fucking hate mcg.

[sputniksignals]

Can someone sum up whatever info is given in the trailer? I can't watch it at work

[Protested Hero]

There wasn't much info. Just John Connor fighting some good ol robuts.

[mht]

This is unreal that Bale is now going to be a savior for not one but two franchises/storylines/whatever in his career. His fucking back must be hurting for carrying these movies.

[Protested Hero]

Ha seriously. Let's get him into Star Wars and Jurassic Park.

[dissident]

christopher nolan is much more responsible for the rejuvenation that the batman saga has received than bale is.

[ror.]

you mean Terminator: Full Throttle?

[matt_bergeron]

Ha seriously. Let's get him into Star Wars and Jurassic Park.

NOTHING could save JP. the third one hurts to even think about.

[Until The Bombs]

NOTHING could save JP. the third one hurts to even think about.

With the right storyline, JP could be done well once again.

[Jessooker]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/Ninja_X_Jade/baleconnerbig.jpg

[Foxholes]

NOTHING could save JP. the third one hurts to even think about.
You guys didn't hear about the "mercenary dinosaurs with guns" plot for the fourth film?

[matt_bergeron]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/Ninja_X_Jade/baleconnerbig.jpg


OH..........MY............GOD fucking awesome

[matt_bergeron]

You guys didn't hear about the "mercenary dinosaurs with guns" plot for the fourth film?

hahahaha ZING!

[Jessooker]

OH..........MY............GOD fucking awesome

yeah. that picture alone makes me want to see it for some reason.

[Foxholes]

hahahaha ZING!
http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/08/13/jurassic-park-4-to-feature-dinosaurs-with-guns/

[matt_bergeron]

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/08/13/jurassic-park-4-to-feature-dinosaurs-with-guns/

:eyebrow:

[tait]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/Ninja_X_Jade/baleconnerbig.jpg
amazing

[Foxholes]

Wikipedia says this is coming out the same day as Angels & Demons, you know The Da Vinci Code prequel.

[drudo182]

Wikipedia says this is coming out the same day as Angels & Demons, you know The Da Vinci Code prequel.

aka, a trashy movie.

[AshesAshes]

It's gonna be weird seeing someone else play Kyle Reese and the T-800. Im excited for this though

[drudo182]

Bryce Dallas Howard is in this movie? She is beautiful I think.

I am getting more and more pumped for this now. Seen the teaser about sixty times now.

[AshesAshes]

Bryce Dallas Howard is in this movie? She is beautiful I think.

I am getting more and more pumped for this now. Seen the teaser about sixty times now.

She was pretty good in the Village. Same here im a huge Terminator nerd I hated 3 this looks like its gonna make up for it. Im going to watch T2 in a few minutes

[coryatlarge]

hey.... so thought i'd join the conversation........ i think that this movie will more than make up for t3..... christian bale is an amazing actor......

[drudo182]

She was pretty good in the Village. Same here im a huge Terminator nerd I hated 3 this looks like its gonna make up for it. Im going to watch T2 in a few minutes

I really enjoyed the third film. The ending was great.

What I can't stand is the first one.

[coryatlarge]

I really enjoyed the third film. The ending was great.

What I can't stand is the first one.
thats weird..... it goes t2, t1, t3 for me..... i thought the ending was pretty good but i didnt really enjoy it like the others...... funny story my dad wanted to name me reese after kyle reese...... but my mom thought that i'd get made fun of and called reese's pieces......

[drudo182]

thats weird..... it goes t2, t1, t3 for me..... i thought the ending was pretty good but i didnt really enjoy it like the others...... funny story my dad wanted to name me reese after kyle reese...... but my mom thought that i'd get made fun of and called reese's pieces......

I always liked that name. It reminds me of Reese's and thats a good thing.

[Ailite]

Seems promising

[coryatlarge]

I always liked that name. It reminds me of Reese's and thats a good thing.
yeah i thought it'd be a cool name cuz not many people have it..... it reminds me of malcom in the middle now...... but cory's pretty uncommon at least from the people i know so i like my name.... so do they have kyle reese cast?

[drudo182]

I think of Malcolm as well! He's the only Reese I know (and thats a tv show...)

[CTMarshall]

It has the potential to be a great action flick. with robots. It doesn't get any better than that.

[drudo182]

Christian Bale + Bryce Dallas Howard + Common + Robots and Action - McG = Fun movie.

[coryatlarge]

yeah him and reese witherspoon.......

[drudo182]

yeah him and reese witherspoon.......

Oh, I forgot about her...

[HogarthHughes]

When I saw the trailer, the only thing on my mind was "How can anything McG directs look this awesome?" I mean c'mon, the guy who does Charlie's Angels? Still, Christian Bale has never starred in a shitty movie. That gives me some hope. I'm a huge Terminator fan, so I'm hoping the film is as badass as the trailer.

[drudo182]

"Prometheus

We are half way through filming. Our teaser is in theaters and playing
before The Dark Knight.

You will see that this is a movie inspired by the first films, but is a true new beginning in that it takes place in the future.

All three Terminator films took place present day, with Terminators
traveling back in time to attack. This picture takes place after Judgment
Day. It happened. Everything is gone. The story of the movie is the "brink
moment" Reese always talked about.

From a technical perspective, we have set out to achieve a completely new
visual style that hasn't been seen before. We're shooting the film on color
stock but are using a method inspired by the Oz process which was developed
at Technicolor by Mike Zacharia and Bob Olson. Basically we are adding three
times as much silver. It creates a surreal texture that is in keeping with
the notion of the entire picture - feeling detached from the world we know
today.

Every morning and every night Christian and I work on the story. Sam's
contribution has been excellent. We are committed to putting the story and
character first and then supplementing that with action and visual effects.
It is our intention to make a film on a large scale with the nuance and
subtext of a high quality independent picture.

The richness of the story is really coming out now. It's a Prometheus tale
really, how creating life creates real responsibility - and if left
unchecked, can be our undoing.

The entire crew takes the making of this film very seriously. I made a point
of hiring key personnel that are passionate about getting this right.
Everyone is well versed in the mythology.

Comicon is this weekend. I look forward to sharing the film with the
passionate.



McG"

[Jared Kaufman]

When I saw the trailer, the only thing on my mind was "How can anything McG directs look this awesome?" I mean c'mon, the guy who does Charlie's Angels? Still, Christian Bale has never starred in a shitty movie. That gives me some hope. I'm a huge Terminator fan, so I'm hoping the film is as badass as the trailer.
I love Christian Bale as much as the next guy, but he has been in a few dudes, just to name a couple:

Harsh Times
The New World

[Chris Fallon]

Harsh Times was bad minus Bale's performance.

[Jessooker]

Bale's numerous great movies make up for his couple of bad ones.

[Until The Bombs]

Don't forget the awesomeness that is Newsies.

[Chris Fallon]

Don't forget the awesomeness that is Newsies.
:nod:

[Adeniz19]

the trailer for this was ok. looked like they were going the cloverfield route with it.

[drudo182]

Harsh Times was bad minus Bale's performance.

I really liked Harsh Times. I think it's my favorite Bale performance.

[mht]

Bale:

The Presitge
Equilibrium
American Psycho.


enough said. Three 10/10 movies. Not too many actors out there right now with 3 good movies under their belts. (that aren't over 50 years old.)

[JHSace923]

I really liked Harsh Times. I think it's my favorite Bale performance.

Agreed. Although the film isn't great, it's not bad by any means. Bale's performance is terrifying.

[drudo182]

Bale:

The Presitge
Equilibrium
American Psycho.


enough said. Three 10/10 movies. Not too many actors out there right now with 3 good movies under their belts. (that aren't over 50 years old.)

I couldn't stand Equilibrium but Bale was good.

[mht]

I couldn't stand Equilibrium but Bale was good.


You are not human if you don't like that movie.

[drudo182]

You are not human if you don't like that movie.

Then I'm a robot.

[mht]

Then I'm a robot.


you have no feelings.

[drudo182]

you have no feelings.

But I am programed to love.

[mht]

But I am programed to love.


then I must kill you.

[poppa Q]

I couldn't stand Equilibrium but Bale was good.

You are not human if you don't like that movie.

Then I'm a robot.

you have no feelings.

But I am programed to love.

then I must kill you.

Hahaha, thank you for making me love life in this very instance.

[mht]

hahahha <3

[WarpSpeedChewy]

IF we're talking great Bale performances here, Empire of the Sun needs to mentioned.

But I am programed to love.
This is by far the best response I've heard to anything this year. I love you.

[Jessooker]

IF we're talking great Bale performances here, Empire of the Sun needs to mentioned.


This is by far the best response I've heard to anything this year. I love you.

I was about to post pretty much the same thing.

[doomcrs04]

Bale can never have a bad performance.

[ThexQuietxCull]

hopefully this can end up being somewhat redeemable besides bale's preformance

[WarpSpeedChewy]

I was about to post pretty much the same thing.
Yeah, it's amazing to think he was just a kid. Brillant movie too.

Bale can never have a bad performance.
Even if the movie is bad, I might enjoy it thanks to Bale's performance. See; Reign of Fire.

[drudo182]

IF we're talking great Bale performances here, Empire of the Sun needs to mentioned.


This is by far the best response I've heard to anything this year. I love you.

I love you too.

Thank you.

:-)

[WarpSpeedChewy]

One other Bale performance that absolutely should be mention but is unfournately overlooked was his performance in Velvet Goldmine.

I love you too.

Thank you.

:-)
:hug:

[drudo182]

One other Bale performance that absolutely should be mention but is unfournately overlooked was his performance in Velvet Goldmine.


:hug:

Or Laurel Canyon.

[Jessooker]

I've been meaning to see Equilibrium. I really need to pick it up, probably tomorrow.

[drudo182]

I've been meaning to see Equilibrium. I really need to pick it up, probably tomorrow.

Just rent it...

[windmillninja]

McG confirms Jonathan Nolan (The Dark Knight) as "lead writer" for Terminator: Salvation.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/26/dark-knight-writer-jonathan-nolan-confirmed-as-lead-writer-of-terminator-salvation/

[windmillninja]

Great update (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/07/26/comic-con-08-awesome-terminator-salvation-updates-rated-r/) from firstshowing.net:

As McG explains, they're going to honor the mythology, but they can take a license to tell the most compelling story possible. So throughout the production they've met with everyone, from Arnold to Cameron and so on, but haven't got too caught up in the timeline of the other movies or even the TV show because they'd rather just tell a good story. Even Sam Worthington chimed in to say that they wanted to take what Cameron's movies said about fate and humanity and increase and expand it in Terminator Salvation. And if that doesn't instill any more confidence in you now, then there's no hope.

[WordzandDreamz]

Just rent it...

HA. Jess doesn't rent.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

McG confirms Jonathan Nolan (The Dark Knight) as "lead writer" for Terminator: Salvation.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/26/dark-knight-writer-jonathan-nolan-confirmed-as-lead-writer-of-terminator-salvation/
I suddenly have faith in this movie. Hopefully they've changed the story around a lot from what I read it was. It's strange that Bale and Nolan are gonna have McG make a good movie.

[cahrishurr]

renting is for bitches and ho's

[Robb]

You are not human if you don't like that movie.

I LOVE that movie, but I must admit I can see how people might not.


Also, an interesting breakdown of the trailer, I didn't see it posted:
http://io9.com/5026133/a-closer-look-at-our-robot-foes-of-terminator-4-and-mcgs-t+600

[Jessooker]

renting is for bitches and ho's

i may be a bitch, but i'm no ho.

[tait]

I've been meaning to see Equilibrium. I really need to pick it up, probably tomorrow.
you have to see it, it's a good movie

[tait]

http://www.firstshowing.net/img/terminator-salvation-tsrposter-full.jpg

new poster

[chronomic]

McG confirms Jonathan Nolan (The Dark Knight) as "lead writer" for Terminator: Salvation.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/26/dark-knight-writer-jonathan-nolan-confirmed-as-lead-writer-of-terminator-salvation/

what? how is that possible? the movie comes out in less than a year...they no doubt have already finished any kind of writing for this movie.

[Marty_s]

Christian Bale FTW.

[windmillninja]

they no doubt have already finished any kind of writing for this movie.

Yes, the bulk of which, according to McG, was done by Nolan.

[drudo182]

I suddenly have faith in this movie. Hopefully they've changed the story around a lot from what I read it was. It's strange that Bale and Nolan are gonna have McG make a good movie.

Man, I still think We Are Marshall is a good movie.

[Jessooker]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/Ninja_X_Jade/termsal2.jpg

[drudo182]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/Ninja_X_Jade/termsal2.jpg


Ahhhh. Nice.

Thank you.

[Jessooker]

I love Bale with a buzz cut.

[drudo182]

I always kind of liked Bale with some hair.

[Adeniz19]

Arnold saw some footage and here is his reaction:

"I still don't know how it will play out with this one," said the star-turned-politician, who said he was given a private screening of early footage from "Terminator Salvation (http://topics.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/terminator-salvation)" by producers of the franchise reboot directed by McG. "They showed me some footage, but I don't have a feel for the movie. I didn't see enough. I wasn't sure who the Terminator was. I don't know if there is one or if he's the star or the hero. These are the things that determine the success and how the strong the movie will be."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2008/08/schwarzenegger.html

[AshesAshes]

I hope it dont have just one main Terminator. That got old after T2 its time to focus on the war and all sorts of models of Terminators.

[Adeniz19]

I hope it dont have just one main Terminator. That got old after T2 its time to focus on the war and all sorts of models of Terminators.
it seems that is going to be the way they take it just from the teaser trailer. it looks like it'll be more focused on the resistance than the actual terminators.

[Gedarov]

I hope it dont have just one main Terminator. That got old after T2 its time to focus on the war and all sorts of models of Terminators.

agreed, and since the CGI technology exists now, they can make whole armies of different terminators doing battle with the humans without the huge costs that it took circa 1980s with T2 for just a few shots.

[AshesAshes]

I also like the new poster its a throwback to the original.

Yea it should be good if its based off the resistance. I would love to see the T-1000 in this since he is a model, they could do it. Also The Terminator is 100 percent on Rottentomatoes thats amazing.

[windmillninja]

I also like the new poster its a throwback to the original.

Yea it should be good if its based off the resistance. I would love to see the T-1000 in this since he is a model, they could do it. Also The Terminator is 100 percent on Rottentomatoes thats amazing.

Doesn't surprise me. It really is a great film. I thought T2 was much better, but you takes what you gets.

[IAPAI]

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/arnold_bale.jpg

from Latino Review:
I should make it clear, i have varous contacts in WB and from what i’ve been told the fans are in for a treat. The premise of Arnie’s involvement is to have a fully rendered digital face of Arnie replacing the recently cast Roland Kickinger (The Younger version of Arnie). It seems the Director Mc G [Mayor McCheese] will in no doubt try all he can to ensure the Governator has some sort of involvement and as a result Arnold was on set providing key ADR (Voice over) for the visual effects guys to reference during post production. You have to remember, Arnold’s commitments are preventing his return to the movie business and this seems the best logical way to ensure his involvement.

You may recall Christopher Lee’s face being embossed on a stunt double in the Star Wars prequels?, imagine that with Arnold and you will get the picture.

[dissident]

jesus, don't make this movie embarassingly bad just to get arnold in it. anyone can play a fucking terminator, i don't need the governator.

[IAPAI]

jesus, don't make this movie embarassingly bad just to get arnold in it. anyone can play a fucking terminator, i don't need the governator.

it's for continuity's sake, not just "to get arnold in it".

[dissident]

continuity's sake my ass, different actors step into old characters roles all the time.

[Drew Beringer]

http://rss.warnerbros.com/terminatorsalvation/

The motion movie poster is badass.

[ambulance]

The posts on that site give me more confidence in the movie actually being good. I really enjoy The Sarah Conner Chronicles so I hope this lives up to the first two Terminator movies as well as the TV show.

Oh, and that poster is badass haha

[drudo182]

New trailer premiers on Tuesday. I saw some clips of it and it looks so awesome.

[Lueda Alia]

I can't wait for this to come out.

[Sventhegreat]

Speaking of Terminator...anyone watch Sarah Connor Chronicles? I actually like that show a lot.

[drudo182]

Nah.

[ambulance]

Speaking of Terminator...anyone watch Sarah Connor Chronicles? I actually like that show a lot.

Yeah, my Mondays consist of TSCC and Heroes. A good 2 hours of television haha. I keep hearing its not doing good in the ratings. I imagine it will probably get cancelled after this season :\ At least they are trying to make it through this season though.

[cahrishurr]

jesus, don't make this movie embarassingly bad just to get arnold in it. anyone can play a fucking terminator, i don't need the governator.

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa, no

[FOBcareemo]

I feel like this is the place to express my disgust and outrage that the new Terminator coaster being built at Six Flags Magic Mountain is WOOD.


WHAT THE FUCK?!

A movie about robots fighting robots to stop robots from taking over and destroying everything that isn't a robot. is being made into a wooden coaster?!?


What jackass was responsible for this?


/rant

[tait]

New trailer premiers on Tuesday. I saw some clips of it and it looks so awesome.
:woot: can't wait to see the trailer

[ambulance]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa, no

I think he is right. We don't need Arnold. I always thought the dudes in the show did a good job at being Terminators.

I feel like this is the place to express my disgust and outrage that the new Terminator coaster being built at Six Flags Magic Mountain is WOOD.


WHAT THE FUCK?!

A movie about robots fighting robots to stop robots from taking over and destroying everything that isn't a robot. is being made into a wooden coaster?!?


What jackass was responsible for this?


/rant

They still MAKE wooden coasters?

[Sventhegreat]

Yeah, my Mondays consist of TSCC and Heroes. A good 2 hours of television haha. I keep hearing its not doing good in the ratings. I imagine it will probably get cancelled after this season :\ At least they are trying to make it through this season though.

Yeah those are my two shows I watch on Mondays too. That sucks though, it is actually a pretty decent show.

[drudo182]

I feel like this is the place to express my disgust and outrage that the new Terminator coaster being built at Six Flags Magic Mountain is WOOD.


WHAT THE FUCK?!

A movie about robots fighting robots to stop robots from taking over and destroying everything that isn't a robot. is being made into a wooden coaster?!?


What jackass was responsible for this?


/rant

McG.

[Adeniz19]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa, noRobert Patrick > Arnold

[FOBcareemo]

God damn you Mayor McCheese

[dissident]

Robert Patrick > Arnold

correct and he was much more intimidating.

[drudo182]

Robert Patrick did own T2. I agree.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Not the best quality, but here's the new extended trailer:

http://www.joblo.com/video/joblo/player.php?video=t444

[Chemical Love]

The new trailer doesnt do anything for me.

[Deadwomb88]

New trailer = Better looking than T3 but that's not a hard feat to accomplish.

[circatbs]

i fucking love the terminator series, have seen all 3movies and watch the show regularly. im so pumped for this movie, its gonna be AWESOME

[sweetforever]

Not the best quality, but here's the new extended trailer:

http://www.joblo.com/video/joblo/player.php?video=t444

Looks pretty sweet, Bale looks like he kicks ass in this.

[ambulance]

I don't know, that trailer doesn't make me feel very good. I feel like the movie won't even be able to live up to the tv show. I'm still going to hold out hope though.

[ambulance]

oh and here is better quality trailer.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/terminatorsalvation

[dissident]

i like the trailer, it definitely looks better than T3.

[Adeniz19]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/images/2008/12/10/tsd19432r_2.jpg

[FOBcareemo]

As much as i hate Mc G im very excited for this film. the footage on entertainment tonight tuesday was good stuff.

[Recovery Room]

Glad to see this isn't your typical bright colors McG flick.

[Adeniz19]

looks like a transformers movie

http://www.latinoreview.com/images/user/conceptart-termsal1.jpg


http://www.latinoreview.com/images/user/tsca22.jpg

other concept art here:

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/terminator-salvation-20min-preview-first-look-at-more-concept-art-5972

[dissident]

wow, maybe michael bay wasn't just being his usual egomaniac asshole self calling out this movie.

[Adeniz19]

wow, maybe michael bay wasn't just being his usual egomaniac asshole self calling out this movie.haha he called this movie out? link

[dissident]

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/?s=michael+bay

i check this site every day, i recommend it for any film buff.

[hammy8700]

http://www.personal.psu.edu/jmm5149/baleout.html

Check out my roomate Jake Myers' flash animated version of Christian Bale's T4 rant!

It's Hilarious!

-Thanks

http://www.personal.psu.edu/jmm5149/baleout.html

[nhoium]

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/02/08/thom-york-and-gustavo-santaolalla-might-collaborate-on-songs-for-terminator-salvation/#respond

Thom Yorke and Gustavo Santaolalla might collab on songs for Terminator

Fuck yeah.

[Adeniz19]

new trailer:

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/terminator-salvation.html?showVideo=1


this movie is shaping up and looking pretty badass.

[mht]

it looks like the first Terminator movie to actually have depth at the storyline portion.

[sweetforever]

New trailer looks excellent.

[airik625]

Trailer is badass.

[Adeniz19]

as cool as this looks, part of me wants to boycott it just cause of bale's ridiculously rude freak out on that one crew member....so not cool.it's sort of sounding like, the more and more i hear about the incident, that the guy actually did deserve it.

also, i'm sure this happens on about 100% of movie sets. i guess you should just stick to reading books.

[IAPAI]

as cool as this looks, part of me wants to boycott it just cause of bale's ridiculously rude freak out on that one crew member....so not cool.

Heaven forbid someone being reprimanded for unprofessional behaviour... albeit public and humiliating.

[drudo182]

People do what Bale did all the time so it's nothing new. I think he went nuts for too long but whatever, he said he was sorry.

See the movie...

[Brandon Allin]

I want to see this. Looks intense.

[Protested Hero]

This looks like a faithful sequel to T2. I'm pumped.

[dissident]

it looks like the first Terminator movie to actually have depth at the storyline portion.

t2?

[mht]

t2?


there was barely any dialogue in that movie besides furlong's high pitched annoying voice

[dissident]

the whole subplot/context about fate, the overall morality of time travel was handled very well and only elevated the movie into more than just an action flick.

[batmannj]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/dor/objects/615765/terminator_4/videos/terminator_salvation_trailer3_03030 9.html

New trailer up. Looks pretty sweet.

[Foxholes]

This looks like a faithful sequel to T2. I'm pumped.

Apparently T-1000 shows up in Terminator 5!

[Ailite]

I'm very skeptical on this, but its starting to look up. That trailer is great

[coryatlarge]

i was excited for this before but that new trailer is bad ass. this should be awesome.

[drudo182]

Yep. The new trailer before Watchmen is incredible. Cannot wait.

[dissident]

my main hope for this is based on the fact that all the marketing and background for this film is essentially ignoring the entire plot line and basic existence of T3. what a shit movie and embarrassment to a great (up to that point) storyline.

[Adeniz19]

Pitch Terminator Salvation to us.

McG: The whole idea for doing this movie is to honour the first three movies but begin again. The big difference is we're post-Judgement Day, whereas the other pictures were all contemporary, with Terminators coming back in time. It's deep post-Judgement Day, it's a new beginning, and because the future is malleable, there are a great many places to go.
One of the joys of this picture is it explores the space between Judgement Day and the becoming of the T800. So we get to see all the research and development that went into the proficiency of the T800. It's like an Apple computer; the first ones you got 15 years ago had 2 megs of memory, and they weren't so fast. And now today it's the Macbook air and it does back flips. You know, it's the same thing with the Machine world. And it suggests a world that's less based in science fiction than it was when Jim Cameron was making the movies.

How do you mean?

McG: Well we live in a time where if you have an arthritic shoulder, they'll give you a new one. We can make a 70-year-old woman pregnant, and deconstruct the human genome. And certainly the days of talking to a psychiatrist about your mommy and daddy issues are over -- they just want to manipulate your serotonin levels. And therefore it's real -- it's here. It's now. That wasn't the case when Ridley Scott made Blade Runner, or the first Terminator pictures, or even when the first Matrix came out. So in response our film was designed to have that tactile reality of Children of Men, or even the Bourne franchise.

Are there obvious elements in the previous movies that have to come back into play in yours?

McG: Certainly. We pay off a great many things that are established -- particularly with Kyle Reese. We talk about the mythology of his shotgun strap, his proficiency for stealing cars, and we see where he learned a lot of these skills. And it wasn't from Connor, it was from the Marcus character, which is one of the joys of the picture. We cite "Pain can be controlled, you just disconnect it," you know, and we realise where he got that, and there's a great many tidbits for the hard-core fans out there. But it's designed as well for people who don't know that much about the ins and outs of the first films.

Any "Hasta la vista, baby" moments?

McG: We're working on a few. But I would never be so bold as to say we'll have that good fortune of, you know, stuff sticking around to that degree. [Laughs]

You've got a really talented team of writers on board.

McG: Yeah, we wanted it to be written with the deftest pens possible. There's a writing team called Ferris and Brancato that wrote the original draft. Then when I got involved, I brought in Paul Haggis, we worked for about 2 months on the script, with Christian as well. He taught us a great deal about character. Then we brought in Jonathan Nolan -- who wrote the Batman pictures, Prestige, and largely Memento. So it's a very cerebral bunch that's here to make a film of the highest quality.


What were the most complicated scenes to shoot?

McG: Well a lot of the scenes take place in one shot, and figuring out places to hide the cuts... Again, I go to Children of Men -- the car sequence, where the motorbikes come, and Julianne Moore is shot, and the whole thing plays in one shot. Figuring that out is very difficult, and you've got to figure out exactly where you're going to have your blend points; you need to measure everything off, and consult with the visual effects people.

There's a big gas station sequence that had that, and that was very, very tedious, and very, very technical filmmaking. And that's why I love this film -- one day we're shooting a very intimate, character-driven scene, and there's nothing going on but Connor and his wife in a room, and she's the only one he can talk to about what's on his mind. And then the next day we're, you know, blowing up half of New Mexico, and going to a place of extraordinary action. So those are decidedly different hats to wear, day in, day out.

Do you deliberately do as much physically as you can? George Lucas would shoot the whole thing on a green screen, with guys wearing ping-pong balls...

McG: I say with respect to George Lucas, who I adore, I don't like that at all. This is why Stan Winston's team is here. We do as much practically and in camera as possible. I want the machines to be real and we built all the machines. We built all the prosthetics. And then they're accentuated and added to, certainly.

McG: I believe in visual effects completely. But I just don't believe in saying, "throw up the green screen, and let's make it happen." I think the audience has become so skilled in recognising that - they sniff it out and it loses its potency. We're going to have 800 CGI shots in this -- I mean it's a CG festival, that's why I brought in the best minds in the business to come in and get it done - but we don't just say, "put a blue sleeve on the Marcus character," I mean -- the guy spent six hours in make-up.

How do you inject humour and warmth into this universe?

McG: I don't. There's not a great deal of humour and warmth in this universe. It's very largely influenced by the Cormac McCarthy novel The Road. It's designed to feel that way -- detached and existential, it's got a great deal of Camus' The Stranger in it. But there's a gallows humour. We could all be in a bunker somewhere, and every now and again, you elbow the guy next to you and you make a wisecrack -- what else are you going to do? It's one of the defining characteristics of being human, even in the face of death. But the movie is designed to be very serious and very credible.

Could you take Linda Hamilton in a fight?

McG: Most certainly not. After those pull-ups in the psychiatric ward, I don't think I could make that happen.

[airik625]

Fuck that.

[sweetforever]

Conformation of getting a PG-13.

http://www.pizzahut.com/terminatorsalvation/


My anticipation level for this just fucking plummeted. The violence and gore will be watered down and most likely the movie will suffer. Plus their won't be any awesome Christian Bale cussing. I hear its mainly because of toy tie ins and such. That is just fucking pathetic

:thumbdwn:

[mht]

i wont even bother to pay an inflated 9 dollar price in the movies to see this now that it's PG 13. DVD rent it looks like.

[circatbs]

I fucking hate this ridiculous pg-13 shit.

(proceed to make comments such as "but you cant even get into a r-rated movie ur only 15 omg!!!!!!)

[circatbs]

What about comments that DDG are the best band in the world?

didn't expect that

[Adeniz19]

if it's a good movie, i couldn't care less what the rating will be. yea, it sucks that there probably won't be a lot of bloody scenes, but given how lenient the MPAA could be with their ratings towards big blockbuster franchises (TDK, Casino Royale), there should still be a good amount of violence.

[dissident]

that's true, and really the only thing making the previous films R was the language (and the eyeball scene in T1) and i don't really need the f word.

[starseed]

if it's a good movie, i couldn't care less what the rating will be. yea, it sucks that there probably won't be a lot of bloody scenes, but given how lenient the MPAA could be with their ratings towards big blockbuster franchises (TDK, Casino Royale), there should still be a good amount of violence.

Yeah I was going to say, Dark Knight was PG-13 people and we all know how great that turned out. Oh no, so we might not see Bloodgood's tits or a head explode. It's not a dealbreaker nor should it be.

[Nourez]

Christian Bale is IMO, perfect for an adult John Connor. I have high hopes for this movie, I really hope it's not a letdown.

[circatbs]

Apparently you don't remember in T-3 when the female terminator puts her hands through the cop and drives with her arm through him from the backseat. Or Arnold cutting his arm off in T2 or him getting his head cut into in multiple movies. Or John Conners foster parents getting killed and the blade sticking through his head. I'm sure there are plenty of other violent scenes I don't remember off the top of my head. As for language I recently watched it and it had next to no cussing. The series was pretty much R for violence and gore.

As for Dark Night and Casino Royale while they were violent both of those series were never very gory so its doesn't pertain to them. PG -13 movies can be very violent but they can't show much blood or gore so that rating will drastically affect Terminator Salvation

I agree with this. I feel the more blood and gore there is, the more realistic the movie feels. When somebody gets stabbed, naturally, there will be blood. I don't wanna see someone hit the ground with no blood. It's dumb.

[drudo182]

Was this ever intended to be R in the first place? From the beginning I figured it would be PG-13 because the studio wants to make serious cash more than anything.

[drudo182]

If they keep everyone from the new one for the other two, it could be a great trilogy. I'm still excited.

[circatbs]

Apparently production on Terminator 5 has begun which is due in 2011. Salvation is supposed to be the beginning of a new trilogy with the same actors including Bale

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=festivals&jump=story&id=1061&articleid=VR1117997377&cs=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_(franchise)#Planned_sequ els

Whoa, that's awesome.

[Adeniz19]

Apparently you don't remember in T-3 when the female terminator puts her hands through the cop and drives with her arm through him from the backseat. Or Arnold cutting his arm off in T2 or him getting his head cut into in multiple movies. Or John Conners foster parents getting killed and the blade sticking through his head. I'm sure there are plenty of other violent scenes I don't remember off the top of my head. As for language I recently watched it and it had next to no cussing. The series was pretty much R for violence and gore.

As for Dark Night and Casino Royale while they were violent both of those series were never very gory so its doesn't pertain to them. PG -13 movies can be very violent but they can't show much blood or gore so that rating will drastically affect Terminator Salvation
i just watched the first terminator last night, and honestly, i've seen a lot worse on tv these days when it comes to some of the blood scenes. they do drop the f bomb occasionally and there is a sex scene which makes it an obvious R, but take those 2 things away in today's time and i think it really could be pushing a pg-13 rating.

[Adeniz19]

The first one isn't gory but the sequels are.and the 3rd one proves that gore doesnt make a good movie.

[dissident]

i forgot about a couple of those scenes in t2, i've seen it so many times they don't phase me anymore. but there is definitely a lot of harsh language in t2 that contributed to the rating.

[airik625]

Yeah, Judgement Day was fairly graphic, but I loved it.

[dissident]

my favorite movie of all time. certainly not the best or anything, but my personal favorite. i could watch it every day.

[circatbs]

My favorite of all time, also.

[drudo182]

They have officially confirmed whether or not Arnold would be in the new one.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40860

[circatbs]

That's pretty cool.

[bouttogetfancy]

assuming this hasn't been posted

2PEGG1KjcEc

[drudo182]

Those four minutes are on Apple too if anyone is interested it in HD. I still think it looks good.

[phil19]

saw the preview for this on the weekend! looks great

[airik625]

Still kind of bummed it got a PG-13 rating.

[chris1152]

Come with me if you wanna live.

[sweetforever]

assuming this hasn't been posted

2PEGG1KjcEc

Beyond excited for this movie. Bale looks like he kicks ass in this.

[drudo182]

She's only in the trailer briefly, but Bryce Dallas Howard is gorgeous.

[airik625]

Score posted in MO.

[Adeniz19]

first review posted from variety

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117940262.html?categoryid=31&cs=1

[WordzandDreamz]

I'm slowly getting more pumped to watch this tomorrow night. I get more pumped each time I remember Bryce is in it.

[drudo182]

I'm slowly getting more pumped to watch this tomorrow night. I get more pumped each time I remember Bryce is in it.

Tomorrow night? And yes, Bryce is amazing. Can't wait to see this on Thursday.

[WordzandDreamz]

Tomorrow night? And yes, Bryce is amazing. Can't wait to see this on Thursday.

Yeah, our theatre is getting the prints tomorrow since we have midnights on Wednesday. So I'll be watching it tomorrow evening.

[Ailite]

Early reviews doesn't sound to good on RT

[Protested Hero]

I can't tell if the midnight for this is tomorrow night or wednesday night. Its listed on the Wednesday showtimes and says 12:01am the evening of Wed the 20th, but the theatre has fucked up before and probably mean Wednesday night.

[drudo182]

Yeah, our theatre is getting the prints tomorrow since we have midnights on Wednesday. So I'll be watching it tomorrow evening.

That's sweet. Post your thoughts afterwards.

I can't tell if the midnight for this is tomorrow night or wednesday night. Its listed on the Wednesday showtimes and says 12:01am the evening of Wed the 20th, but the theatre has fucked up before and probably mean Wednesday night.

It opens Thursday so I'm sure it's listed correctly for the 12:01 Wednesday. I don't think I'll do a midnight or not.

[drudo182]

Got my new Entertainment Weekly in the mail and Bale is on the cover. Will read the article later when I'm back at work.

[sevinw0rds]

Just got back from an early screening in Ft. Lauderdale. I'll keep this spoiler-free, even though it's kinda hard to post my initial thoughts right off the bat because the film kinda threw me off in some ways. It obviously wasn't meant to feel anything like the Terminator films we're all used to because there's no lone machine out to kill our protagonist(s). It's simply set up as a story displaying the tumultuous nature of a war that seems impossible to win. But my main complaints have to do with some pretty serious pacing issues, and more than anything else, the fact that I found it really hard to give a damn about any of the characters. Maybe with the exception of Marcus, but for me that only happened near the end when he discovers who did that to him and why.

The film does have some insane action spectacles though, I'll give McG that for sure. The scene we're all familiar with revolving the Harvester at the gas station is insanity from beginning to end. Sam Worthington has great presence, and he's actually been given the far more interesting role in the film, as Christian Bale didn't really seem to have much to work with considering the things many of us have seen him pull on-screen. Anton Yelchin was great, but that dude won me over very recently with Star Trek, so I was naturally pulling for him to do well. I'd love to see where they take the story in the next one, but I think there's a lot of work to be done in terms of focusing the narrative and giving the thing some heart to pull the viewer in. It's what makes a good movie in the first place.

[Adrian Villagomez]

Just got back from an early screening in Ft. Lauderdale. I'll keep this spoiler-free, even though it's kinda hard to post my initial thoughts right off the bat because the film kinda threw me off in some ways. It obviously wasn't meant to feel anything like the Terminator films we're all used to because there's no lone machine out to kill our protagonist(s). It's simply set up as a story displaying the tumultuous nature of a war that seems impossible to win. But my main complaints have to do with some pretty serious pacing issues, and more than anything else, the fact that I found it really hard to give a damn about any of the characters. Maybe with the exception of Marcus, but for me that only happened near the end when he discovers who did that to him and why.

The film does have some insane action spectacles though, I'll give McG that for sure. The scene we're all familiar with revolving the Harvester at the gas station is insanity from beginning to end. Sam Worthington has great presence, and he's actually been given the far more interesting role in the film, as Christian Bale didn't really seem to have much to work with considering the things many of us have seen him pull on-screen. Anton Yelchin was great, but that dude won me over very recently with Star Trek, so I was naturally pulling for him to do well. I'd love to see where they take the story in the next one, but I think there's a lot of work to be done in terms of focusing the narrative and giving the thing some heart to pull the viewer in. It's what makes a good movie in the first place.With all the time you spend on entertainment, you should keep a blog in which you post reactions to movie/tv news with the occasional review.

[AshesAshes]

Just got back from an early screening in Ft. Lauderdale. I'll keep this spoiler-free, even though it's kinda hard to post my initial thoughts right off the bat because the film kinda threw me off in some ways. It obviously wasn't meant to feel anything like the Terminator films we're all used to because there's no lone machine out to kill our protagonist(s). It's simply set up as a story displaying the tumultuous nature of a war that seems impossible to win. But my main complaints have to do with some pretty serious pacing issues, and more than anything else, the fact that I found it really hard to give a damn about any of the characters. Maybe with the exception of Marcus, but for me that only happened near the end when he discovers who did that to him and why.

The film does have some insane action spectacles though, I'll give McG that for sure. The scene we're all familiar with revolving the Harvester at the gas station is insanity from beginning to end. Sam Worthington has great presence, and he's actually been given the far more interesting role in the film, as Christian Bale didn't really seem to have much to work with considering the things many of us have seen him pull on-screen. Anton Yelchin was great, but that dude won me over very recently with Star Trek, so I was naturally pulling for him to do well. I'd love to see where they take the story in the next one, but I think there's a lot of work to be done in terms of focusing the narrative and giving the thing some heart to pull the viewer in. It's what makes a good movie in the first place.
I was hoping it would be less action more story

[sevinw0rds]

With all the time you spend on entertainment, you should keep a blog in which you post reactions to movie/tv news with the occasional review.

I think I will, Adrian. The more movies piss me off, the more inspired I get, haha.

I was hoping it would be less action more story

Don't get me wrong, it is heavy on story. It just feels disjointed most of the time, and you're asked to invest in characters because you know who they are, not what the story gives you. Not a completely bad film, I think...it just feels empty.

[jwelborn]

Just came into this thread to say this is my least anticipated film of 2009, and im really tired of seeing the trailer.
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[drudo182]

Just got back from an early screening in Ft. Lauderdale. I'll keep this spoiler-free, even though it's kinda hard to post my initial thoughts right off the bat because the film kinda threw me off in some ways. It obviously wasn't meant to feel anything like the Terminator films we're all used to because there's no lone machine out to kill our protagonist(s). It's simply set up as a story displaying the tumultuous nature of a war that seems impossible to win. But my main complaints have to do with some pretty serious pacing issues, and more than anything else, the fact that I found it really hard to give a damn about any of the characters. Maybe with the exception of Marcus, but for me that only happened near the end when he discovers who did that to him and why.

The film does have some insane action spectacles though, I'll give McG that for sure. The scene we're all familiar with revolving the Harvester at the gas station is insanity from beginning to end. Sam Worthington has great presence, and he's actually been given the far more interesting role in the film, as Christian Bale didn't really seem to have much to work with considering the things many of us have seen him pull on-screen. Anton Yelchin was great, but that dude won me over very recently with Star Trek, so I was naturally pulling for him to do well. I'd love to see where they take the story in the next one, but I think there's a lot of work to be done in terms of focusing the narrative and giving the thing some heart to pull the viewer in. It's what makes a good movie in the first place.

I've read quite a bit about how there really isn't anyone to fully invest into except Sam Worthington's character. Also heard a lot of positive things about Yelchin playing Kyle Reese. I'm looking forward to those two the most I think.

How much is Bryce Dallas Howard in it?

[coryatlarge]

i think regardless of how much action or how little i'm just excited to finally see what happened after.

[From: Skulls]

Harry Knowles fucking HATED this thing.

http://twitter.com/headgeek666

Scroll down.

[Chris Fallon]

Hmm. Sounds like this is going to be pretty disappointing. Maybe that means Transformers 2 will actually be good then haha

[sevinw0rds]

I've read quite a bit about how there really isn't anyone to fully invest into except Sam Worthington's character. Also heard a lot of positive things about Yelchin playing Kyle Reese. I'm looking forward to those two the most I think.

How much is Bryce Dallas Howard in it?

She didn't really do very much in this film. Most of her scenes are actually in the trailer, which is hella lame cause she is great. But you're right about Marcus and Kyle, those two are the easiest to care about...

[Protested Hero]

Ouch, I really want to see this still, but the last line of Harry Knowles' review is "FUCK THIS MOVIE.". Ouch.

[drudo182]

Harry Knowles fucking HATED this thing.

http://twitter.com/headgeek666

Scroll down.

That's funny. He is usually the one jacking off to every movie that comes out.

[coryatlarge]

"it's more equatable to X3" hmmmm this is worrying me.

[Five-Star]

hope this is good

[WordzandDreamz]

Less Bryce = Less me enjoying the film

[xeno6919]

Got my tickets for this a while ago, not expecting it to be that great, but don't think it will be that bad either.

[Prestonxsmith]

We are all fucked. Damn, I wish this would have turned out to better reviews.

[Protested Hero]

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/tomato/rotten.gif (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/terminator_salvation/articles/1821959/who_ever_thought_in_2003_that_wed_l ook_back_on_terminator_3_rise_of_th e_machines_as_the_good_old_days)
"Who ever thought in 2003 that we'd look back on Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines as the good old days? " off of RT



Fuck.

[Ailite]

Damn, some harsh reviews are coming in

[Protested Hero]

Regardless I'm going to probably like this. Nothing will ever touch T2 and we all know that, but the bada-ba-ba-dum theme still gives me chills so I don't care.

[drudo182]

Am I only the one who didn't think T3 was complete trash? Nothing great, but I didn't hate it. Loved the ending.

And I haven't heard a lot of great things about Bale either.

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/tomato/rotten.gif (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/terminator_salvation/articles/1821945/i_dont_want_to_make_bale_angry_but_ his_weak_supporting_role_isnt_what_ we_expected_from_iconic_messiah_joh n_connor)
I don't want to make Bale angry, but his weak supporting role isn't what we expected from iconic messiah John Connor.

[chris1152]

Damnit, I had such high expectations for this movie, and to hear it get trashed...

[sweetforever]

Am I only the one who didn't think T3 was complete trash? Nothing great, but I didn't hate it. Loved the ending.

And I haven't heard a lot of great things about Bale either.

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/tomato/rotten.gif (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/terminator_salvation/articles/1821945/i_dont_want_to_make_bale_angry_but_ his_weak_supporting_role_isnt_what_ we_expected_from_iconic_messiah_joh n_connor)
I don't want to make Bale angry, but his weak supporting role isn't what we expected from iconic messiah John Connor.

I enjoyed T3 as well, the ending was excellent.

[Lueda Alia]

I don't know why people hate T3 so much. I enjoyed it for what it was, and I can't wait to watch this one on the weekend.

[Protested Hero]

I don't know why people hate T3 so much. I enjoyed it for what it was, and I can't wait to watch this one on the weekend.

It wasn't bad, but to follow up to T2 was a bit tough. I think this movie will be good for the action junkies (myself included) and fans of the franchise.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

This is my favorite movie franchise, so I'll end up seeing it no matter what the reviews. But I can't help from being disappointed at all the negative stuff being said so far. I was annoyed when I initially saw McG directing it, but I thought Bale and Nolan could make it into a solid movie.

[coryatlarge]

Regardless I'm going to probably like this. Nothing will ever touch T2 and we all know that, but the bada-ba-ba-dum theme still gives me chills so I don't care.
hahaahah well put.

[thisisadisaster]

just watched it. i have a few complaints, but overall it was pretty good. sooooo many references to the other movies.

its not perfect by any means, but i dont get why its getting such bad reviews.

[Protested Hero]

Thank you so much for giving me an ounce of hope. Haha. I'm inclined to believe you guys more than the likes of the RT reviewers, since we're mostly the same age group and of similar interests.

[FOBcareemo]

This will happily be part of my birthday festivities.

[sevinw0rds]

Am I only the one who didn't think T3 was complete trash? Nothing great, but I didn't hate it. Loved the ending.

And I haven't heard a lot of great things about Bale either.

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/tomato/rotten.gif (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/terminator_salvation/articles/1821945/i_dont_want_to_make_bale_angry_but_ his_weak_supporting_role_isnt_what_ we_expected_from_iconic_messiah_joh n_connor)
I don't want to make Bale angry, but his weak supporting role isn't what we expected from iconic messiah John Connor.

The problem isn't so much in his performance, it's the fact that he's given absolutely NOTHING to do in this except, squint, grunt and get thrashed around. That's literally it. Like Harry Knowles said in his review, the whole point of having John Connor in this film is so you can see him get that scar we glimpsed in T2.

To me...the whole movie had zero heart, and that's what's crushing about something that looked so fucking cool in those latest trailers.

[SkyHeldUpByStar]

Wow, that Harry Knowles review is fucking brutal. I still want to see it pretty badly....but I'm sadly a little more skeptical now.

[xeno6919]

Still going to go see this tonight no matter what the reviews say, I hate reading reviews anyways.

[drudo182]

LOL. Wow.

I hate the film. Pure and simple. I loathe it. I hated it so much I didn’t want to see my friend’s faces afterwards. I just wanted to go home and vent. I really really hate this film. I hate how much effort so many great artists and technicians put into a film that’s this fucking bad. Ultimately its just shit moving, like a sewer pipe. I hate that there isn’t a sustained scene or sequence that I love as much as the best moment from TERMINATOR 3. I hate that when I left the theater I felt empty and let down. That I felt like writing a review like this instead of fucking dry humping a great TERMINATOR movie.
This feels like ALIEN RESURRECTION to me. Something that kills something wonderful for me. I’m no longer interested in Terminator. McG terminated my enthusiasm. I love the first two films. At least I’ll always have that. Fuck this movie.

[jusscali]

People are full of shit, there's no way this movie is that bad.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

its not that bad.

the plot/story is meh but the action and visuals are really good.

imo Wolverine was way worse

[stayillogical]

I believe it. I've been skeptical since the trailers.

[jusscali]

its not that bad.

the plot/story is meh but the action and visuals are really good.

imo Wolverine was way worse

Well, yeah. I don't think saying so is even necessary. Honestly, I guarantee I leave this film feeling about the same I did after Star Trek. Just in terms of my personal interests, a fantastic Star Trek film is still only as good as a mediocre Terminator film.