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FalloutGuy
05/27/04, 12:40 AM
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Mandatory drafting for boys and girls (age 18-26) starting June 15
2005, is something, I believe, everyone should know. This literally affects EVERYONE since we all have or know children that will have to go if this bill passes.

If there are children in your family, READ this.
There is pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills: S 89
and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can
begin at early as Spring 2005 -- just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately. Details and links follow.

Even those voters who currently support us. Actions abroad may still
object to this move, knowing their own children or grandchildren will not
have a say about whether to fight. Not that it should make a difference, but this plan, among other things, eliminates higher education as a shelter and includes women in the draft -- Also, crossing into Canada has already been made very difficult.

Actions, actions, actions:
Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all
the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents.... And let your children
know.
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it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change!

Please also write to your representatives to ask them why they aren't
telling their constituents about these bills -- and write to
newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important story.

The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004 selective service
system (sss) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective Service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for
activation.

Please see website: www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the sss
annual performance plan - fiscal year 2004.

The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350
draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential
members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on "terrorism"] proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5146.htm and www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html

Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and HR 163 forward this year,
http://www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp
entitled the Universal National Service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons [age 18--26] in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and fo r other purposes." These active bills currently sit in the committee on armed services.

Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam
era.

College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and
the U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep
would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign
affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the
declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each
country.

Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and
class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen
would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current
semester.

Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.


Farzad Tafreshi
www.cashflowpipeline.tv
info@cashflowpipeline.tv
(661) 269 - 0821

CROMagnon
05/27/04, 01:02 AM
I think there's very little chance of these passing. They were introduced by Democrats to make the Republicans doubt their vote for the current war in Iraq. If even the children of the Rep. members of congress had to serve, then surely they'd think twice about sending everyone else's kids off to die.

open mind
05/27/04, 03:20 AM
who knows, all we need is one big attack, with the knee-jerk reactions the american public (and our politicians) always have during a crisis a draft could happen.

sweetsugar
05/27/04, 07:46 AM
who knows, all we need is one big attack, with the knee-jerk reactions the american public (and our politicians) always have during a crisis a draft could happen.
I agree. This sucks cause I wanna get outta the army. If they Impose a draft they'll definetly call me back up while I'm Inactive Ready Reserves cause my MOS is already understengthed.

yeat182
05/27/04, 10:47 AM
who knows, all we need is one big attack, with the knee-jerk reactions the american public (and our politicians) always have during a crisis a draft could happen.


it could happen with out this law. there has always been the possiblity of an emergency draft.

yeat182
05/27/04, 10:50 AM
from www.sss.gov:

Notwithstanding recent stories in the news media and on the Internet, Selective Service is not getting ready to conduct a draft for the U.S. Armed Forces -- either with a special skills or regular draft. Rather, the Agency remains prepared to manage a draft if and when the President and the Congress so direct. This responsibility has been ongoing since 1980 and is nothing new. Further, both the President and the Secretary of Defense have stated on more than one occasion that there is no need for a draft for the War on Terrorism or any likely contingency, such as Iraq. Additionally, the Congress has not acted on any proposed legislation to reinstate a draft. Therefore, Selective Service continues to refine its plans to be prepared as is required by law, and to register young men who are ages 18 through 25.

xnotedgex
05/27/04, 11:55 AM
That's good enough for me yeat....I'm still a little worried though. I used to think reinstatement of the draft was an insane idea to contemplate...I'm not so sure now

UndefinedBoy
05/27/04, 02:25 PM
That's good enough for me yeat....I'm still a little worried though. I used to think reinstatement of the draft was an insane idea to contemplate...I'm not so sure now

There have always been some politicians proposing bringing back the draft. I wouldn't get too worried about this at THIS point. But as an 18 year old, it's a scary idea.

yeat182
05/27/04, 02:31 PM
the only way i'd see it happening is if we are attacked by a country like china, who has an enourmous military. just to reinstate it without a just cause would be political suicide for whoever introduces it/supports it.