Coming Home

[WakeUpBlondie]

Is NFG's best cd.

[versus_god]

I can't stand this band.

[handlikesecret]

it's not my favorite, but i love it.

[Neo Cassady]

Probably my second favorite, just because of the impact the S/T had on me.

[Troggy]

i will have to disagree

[WakeUpBlondie]

Probably my second favorite, just because of the impact the S/T had on me.

I would've said that, but I hardly listen to it anymore because I listened to it so much. My brother bought it for me for my 8th birthbay in '00. Ever since, NFG has been my favorite band.

[Anthony Lutz]

Nothing Gold Can Stay is hands down their best - 2's and 3's anyone?

[WakeUpBlondie]

Nothing Gold Can Stay is hands down their best - 2's and 3's anyone?

Yes! It never snows in florida and the goodbye song are my favorites.

I remember your this will destroy you avatar, great band. I'm awaiting my delivery of their 12" vinyl.

[Anthony Lutz]

Yes! It never snows in florida and the goodbye song are my favorites.

I remember your this will destroy you avatar, great band. I'm awaiting my delivery of their 12" vinyl.

Glad to see that someone agrees!

And as far as TWDY goes, I'm also glad that someone remembers my avatar - I had to change it, because I noticed a lack of love for Piebald on this site ;-)

[Troggy]

I noticed a lack of love for Piebald on this site ;-)

LOVE that record

[WakeUpBlondie]

Glad to see that someone agrees!

And as far as TWDY goes, I'm also glad that someone remembers my avatar - I had to change it, because I noticed a lack of love for Piebald on this site ;-)

I've heard great things about this band, where's a good place to start i need new cd's?

Didn't they break up?

[wewascontenders]

S/T, Nothing Gold, Sticks and Stones, and Catalyst all top this.

[notoaststereo]

no, but its good.

[Genuma]

Is not NFG's best cd.

[mrzippo3]

Lies.

[theguy77]

Is NFG's best cd.

FINALLY.

someone agrees with me.

[Foxholes]

It really is there best. I think I'll listen to it now!

[Kid B]

I can't stand this band.
Same.

[theguy77]

NFG are the most overrated ever. the rest of their discography is very, very bland 4-chords horrible lyrics pop-punk. at least this album is strong on the emotional and atmospheric side. i like the mood it produces.

[duhpunk]

holy no. what a boring ass album.

Sticks and Stones is where it's at.

[FayeQC]

Yep :nod:
but It's not your fault wasn't that great

[bulls2213]

definitely not.

self titled/sticks and stones for sure.

[matthewpaul]

no its not

[sputniksignals]

S&S got me into NFG and pretty much everything I listen to now, then I worked backwords, but strangely S&S holds a place in my heart. I like this album. Catalyst blows IMO

[SLoT]

Definitely not their best.

[WakeUpBlondie]

S&S got me into NFG and pretty much everything I listen to now, then I worked backwords, but strangely S&S holds a place in my heart. I like this album. Catalyst blows IMO

Coming Home> Catalyst/S & S> NFG> NGCS

I can concur that they get better every album.

[makeasound]

From a technical/songwriting standpoint, I agree wholeheartedly. It's my least favorite of their albums, but I definitely respect what they did creatively.

My favorite is probably always going to be Sticks & Stones.

[airik625]

I really like it, but I prefer Sticks & Stones.

[ShimmerAndSpill]

S/T does it for me.

[handlikesecret]

Catalyst will always be my favorite. :shrug: call me crazy.

[Dagless]

I haven't listened to this one much. Sticks & Stones is my favourite though.

I remember I got rid of Catalsyt a couple of years ago because its a completely horrible album in my opinion.

[Anthony Lutz]

I've heard great things about this band, where's a good place to start i need new cd's?

Didn't they break up?

For This Will Destroy You, listen to Young Mountain - they only have two albums, and that's their first, so check it out.

[WakeUpBlondie]

For This Will Destroy You, listen to Young Mountain - they only have two albums, and that's their first, so check it out.


Haha I meant Piebald. But I have Young Mountain, and it's amazing. I like to listen to it when I drive at night or when I go to sleep.

[Chris Fallon]

Not their best - good pop album, but not their best.

I still enjoy this band a great amount - Sticks and Stones is one of my favorites to reminisce to.

[Paulb-182]

this is actually one of my favourite new found releases

probably second only to Sticks And Stones

[kearn1tm]

Is NFG's best cd.

Gonorrhea is the best STD.

[daftknight]

Perhaps. Although the Syph also brings tons of hilarity.

As for Coming Home, I'd definitely say it's one of their best. I think I like Sticks and Stones a bit more, but only because that's the album that really got me into NFG.

Either way, I was absolutely in love with "Make a Move" for all of last summer. So masculine, I know.

[popdisaster00]

sticks and stones or gtfo

[theguy77]

NFG are only lauded because they came early. had they started in 2004 nobody would pay attention to their 4-chords poor-lyrics nasal-vocals garbage. coming home is a breath of fresh air for the atmosphere and emotion.

unfortunately all that emotion means nothing now seeing as chad broke up with sherri haha.

[Troggy]

NFG are only lauded because they came early. had they started in 2004 nobody would pay attention to their 4-chords poor-lyrics nasal-vocals garbage. coming home is a breath of fresh air for the atmosphere and emotion.

There is some merit to a band doing a style before it is totally beat to death, you know. I think they didn't do a half bad job at it, either.

[theguy77]

There is some merit to a band doing a style before it is totally beat to death, you know. I think they didn't do a half bad job at it, either.

yeah its just like when you listen to as much pop-punk as i do you get really picky with it. it might sound oxymoronic but i prefer pop-punk with depth to it on all fronts.

[versus_god]

I'd rather listen to New Found Glory than Say Anything or Brand New. Just sayin'.

[theguy77]

I'd rather listen to New Found Glory than Say Anything or Brand New. Just sayin'.

i have NO understanding why anyone would.

[Troggy]

i have NO understanding why anyone would.

Same for me actually. I don't listen to BN or Say Anything but I have three NFG records.

[kearn1tm]

i have NO understanding why anyone would.

Mostly due to the fact that not everyone wants the same thing out of their music listening experience that you do.

[theguy77]

Mostly due to the fact that not everyone wants the same thing out of their music listening experience that you do.

well obviously but this is a music forum we must withhold the perspective that our opinions are the most important and the standard of knowledge.

joking

[kearn1tm]

well obviously but this is a music forum we must withhold the perspective that our opinions are the most important and the standard of knowledge.

joking

Simplistic Pop Punk that has no affectations of being anything but that > pretentious faux-indie

joking...kinda...

[versus_god]

Simplistic Pop Punk that has no affectations of being anything but that > pretentious faux-indie

joking...kinda...
Definitely, although I think the STD analogy can be applied here.

[theguy77]

Simplistic Pop Punk that has no affectations of being anything but that > pretentious faux-indie

joking...kinda...

how can you judge if it's pretentious though? faux-indie's sort of a harsh term. just because you want to add more depth to simple songs, i mean thats just expanding your creativity, it doesnt always mean you're trying to be the new revolutionary thing. i for one cant stand songs to be too simple.

[kearn1tm]

how can you judge if it's pretentious though? faux-indie's sort of a harsh term. just because you want to add more depth to simple songs, i mean thats just expanding your creativity, it doesnt always mean you're trying to be the new revolutionary thing. i for one cant stand songs to be too simple.

Why? Why are you doing this again? This was mostly in jest, but here we go.

Faux Indie? Because it's not visceral or organic but a direct product of their influences. Brand New didn't add "depth" to anything Neutral or Pavement or Radiohead did. If anything, Lacey's version is much more simplistic, streamlined and accessible...and filled with throwaway pretentious babble meant to be meaningful as opposed to Mangum, Yorke, Young, Fawkes or Bachmann who actually were meaningful.

Oh, wait, I see what you're asking now. Here's the reason I made the joke: Pop Punk is much more honest about what it is than Brand New.

Feel free to disagree with me for a billion posts.

[theguy77]

Why? Why are you doing this again? This was mostly in jest, but here we go.

Faux Indie? Because it's not visceral or organic but a direct product of their influences. Brand New didn't add "depth" to anything Neutral or Pavement or Radiohead did. If anything, Lacey's version is much more simplistic, streamlined and accessible...and filled with throwaway pretentious babble meant to be meaningful as opposed to Mangum, Yorke, Young, Fawkes or Bachmann who actually were meaningful.

Oh, wait, I see what you're asking now. Here's the reason I made the joke: Pop Punk is much more honest about what it is than Brand New.

Feel free to disagree with me for a billion posts.

whatever im not arguing this again. i dont see anything wrong with a pop-punk writer wanting to add more to a genre of music with invisible "rules" which limit his creativity. its not dishonesty its valued production. i dont know why people like you want to go and classify it as stupid indie instead of intelligent pop-punk with the INFLUENCE of indie.

and TDAG is a different argument because that isnt a pop-punk album.

[kearn1tm]

whatever im not arguing this again. i dont see anything wrong with a pop-punk writer wanting to add more to a genre of music with invisible "rules" which limit his creativity. its not dishonesty its valued production. i dont know why people like you want to go and classify it as stupid indie instead of intelligent pop-punk with the INFLUENCE of indie.

and TDAG is a different argument because that isnt a pop-punk album.

You've completely missed the point...like, entirely, which is fine, because I often have trouble conveying my sentiments in a coherent, non-rambling manner. I apologize. Here's what I meant:

Nobodies saying it's wrong for Brand New to imitate others as opposed to constantly adhering to the Pop Punk/Post-Hardcore sound of the Long Island and Jersey scenes that bred them. That's fine. However, interviews with Lacey where he has this self-aggrandized vision of his work and his penchant to produce "cryptic lyrics" in a vain attempt to sound like his predecessors when, much of those same lyrics are throw away lines that aren't necessary and mean nothing (essentially, pretentious posturing), along with the absurdity of many of their fans leads to this disingenuous and bolstered view of themselves. "We're different and transcend our roots."

Sure, great, but Pop Punk and the shitty, contrived bands that litter the scene never pretend to be anything other than fun, infectious, mindless pop bands. Brand New, again, conveys this self-aggrandized sense of importance when, in fact, they're merely an adequate amalgam of bands that are much better than they are. It's dishonest. They're not much better than the Pop Punk bands they were once associated with, to be honest.

[Dr. Acula]

Ive only heard the single and it was terrible.

[Dr. Acula]

Nobodies saying it's wrong for Brand New to imitate others as opposed to constantly adhering to the Pop Punk/Post-Hardcore sound of the Long Island and Jersey scenes that bred them. That's fine. However, interviews with Lacey where he has this self-aggrandized vision of his work and his penchant to produce "cryptic lyrics" in a vain attempt to sound like his predecessors when, much of those same lyrics are throw away lines that aren't necessary and mean nothing (essentially, pretentious posturing), along with the absurdity of many of their fans leads to this disingenuous and bolstered view of themselves. "We're different and transcend our roots." .

I love that no matter what thread you show up in...it ends up being about Brand New/Jesse Lacey. What's up with that? I'm curious as to how you know so much about this band and their character from listening to a fucking record or reading some half ass article. Are you in the practice space when they are writing? Cause you seem to love to spew this shit about Brand New sitting around listening to their favorite bands and then running to the nearest studio and jocking them. Next time you're in the studio with them, tell them i said what's up.

[kearn1tm]

I love that no matter what thread you show up in...it ends up being about Brand New/Jesse Lacey.

What, two threads of late? Well, admittedly, if you'd actually, and this is going to be a wacky idea, read how it was brought up, you'd know that thatguy77 made a semi-joking reference to our past conversation about Lacey and I responded with another joke in the same vain, to which he wanted to discuss it in length (why? I don't know). So we did. Don't get butt hurt about it.

What's up with that? I'm curious as to how you know so much about this band and their character from listening to a fucking record or reading some half ass article. Are you in the practice space when they are writing? Cause you seem to love to spew this shit about Brand New sitting around listening to their favorite bands and then running to the nearest studio and jocking them. Next time you're in the studio with them, tell them i said what's up.

When Lacey's at a show, giving me and everyone else there a ten minute lecture on how Degausser was written and inspired, and yes, in interviews where he spouts off this self-importance about how the "scene is dead and we've transcended it into this new realm," it leads me to believe that, through the actual words he's said, he thinks his band (you know, the impression he's giving off...from what he's verbalizing) is much greater than it is.

Oh, and yeah, next time I see Jesse, I'll interrupt his hour discussion of how deep he is to tell him you said "OMG jess, tis iz me bein sooooooooo0000oo in luv witchoooo, BRANd neW 4 life duder!"

[Dr. Acula]

What, two threads of late? Well, admittedly, if you'd actually, and this is going to be a wacky idea, read how it was brought up, you'd know that thatguy77 made a semi-joking reference to our past conversation about Lacey and I responded with another joke in the same vain, to which he wanted to discuss it in length (why? I don't know). So we did. Don't get butt hurt about it.

I didnt go back cause I could really give a shit how it started. Sorry buddy.



When Lacey's at a show, giving me and everyone else there a ten minute lecture on how Degausser was written and inspired, and yes, in interviews where he spouts off this self-importance about how the "scene is dead and we've transcended it into this new realm," it leads me to believe that, through the actual words he's said, he thinks his band (you know, the impression he's giving off...from what he's verbalizing) is much greater than it is.

10 min lecture? See, this is where you are exaggerating. Im sure he spoke for a few mins about it...and how it was inspired...but that's no different then any other artist.

And where's the interview where he's spouting off self importance? Link please.

I dunno...I try not to judge someone by the hr they spend on stage...or the 15 mins they spend in an interview. Maybe you read too far into things...or maybe I just couldnt care less.

[Dr. Acula]

OMG jess, tis iz me bein sooooooooo0000oo in luv witchoooo, BRANd neW 4 life duder!"

Also, been done to death.

[kearn1tm]

I didnt go back cause I could really give a shit how it started. Sorry buddy.


Then don't bitch when someone else brings it up and we talk about it.

10 min lecture? See, this is where you are exaggerating. Im sure he spoke for a few mins about it...and how it was inspired...but that's no different then any other artist.

At great length...with great importance. It came across as pretentious...and it was about ten minutes...and the gist was "this is about what we perceive The Rapture to be."

And where's the interview where he's spouting off self importance? Link please.

I dunno...I try not to judge someone by the hr they spend on stage...or the 15 mins they spend in an interview. Maybe you read too far into things...or maybe I just couldnt care less.
I'm not judging Lacey as a person. He may be swell. He may be the cat's pajamas. He may be an awful, horrid, smelly man. I'm saying he seems to think as highly of his band as many of his misguided fans that blow them up to these mythic proportions. As for interviews, try that BBC one, I'm sure there's a transcript for the BBC interview he did after TDAG was released, or the AP cover interview where they blew themselves over how awesome Deja was. This is what I'd perceive to be disingenuous.

Also, been done to death.

About as many times as "why are you bashing [band x]? I like band x. You suck because you bash band x."

I like Sons & Daughters. I like their new album. They're pretty cool.

[JizzyA]

Jizzya Senses Bitchassness In This Forum

[Dr. Acula]

About as many times as "why are you bashing [band x]? I like band x. You suck because you bash band x."

I could give a shit what you think about Brand New..or any band for that matter. Let's get facts straight. Im not some Brand New fan boy. YFW is terrible. Deja is overrated. TDAG was superb however. (imo) I just dont get how you can call a band you dont know liars...and that their music is fake. You have no idea how their writing process is. Judging anyone from an hr long concert or an interview is like someone reading three of your posts and assuming your a fucking douchebag.

Anyways, funniest part about all this is that you were at the Brand New show. Dont subject yourself next time?.

[Dr. Acula]

Jizzya Senses Bitchassness In This Forum

those senses are right on

[kearn1tm]

I could give a shit what you think about Brand New..or any band for that matter. Let's get facts straight. Im not some Brand New fan boy. YFW is terrible. Deja is overrated. TDAG was superb however. (imo) I just dont get how you can call a band you dont know liars...and that their music is fake. You have no idea how their writing process is. Judging anyone from an hr long concert or an interview is like someone reading three of your posts and assuming your a fucking douchebag.

Anyways, funniest part about all this is that you were at the Brand New show. Dont subject yourself next time?.

Firstly, I've never made an qualms about enjoying Brand New. I do. I really do.

Secondly, do you know the Gallagher Brothers personally? Would you say they're egotistical, or at the very least, have a distinct image of their band that may not be merited, despite not knowing them? In relation, I don't Jesse, but from what he's said, I think he has an inflated sense of self-worth in relation to his band. I'm not claiming Brand New is a "bad" band, merely a band that isn't nearly as good or visionary as they portray themselves to be, and when Jesse conveys a sense of cavalier trail blazing when his band's identity is comprised of other, better bands who did what Brand New has done prior to TDAG and much, much better/meaningfully, then yes, I think it's disingenuous for them to tout themselves in the way I've read/heard from them as opposed to [insert AP-fav Pop Punk band] who plays the music they play, and never upholds an affectation of it being anything but fun, contrived, minimalist music.

Now, if you disagree, that's your prerogative, but when you get so blatantly defensive, it makes one wonder if you're a BN fanboy, as you'd assume I'm vehemently against Brand New and have some agenda against them when, in actuality, I enjoy their music.

[kearn1tm]

those senses are right on

Rarrrrrr!

[Dr. Acula]

:yawn:

[kearn1tm]

:yawn:

Go to sleep, you've had a big day, slugger.

[theguy77]

You've completely missed the point...like, entirely, which is fine, because I often have trouble conveying my sentiments in a coherent, non-rambling manner. I apologize. Here's what I meant:

Nobodies saying it's wrong for Brand New to imitate others as opposed to constantly adhering to the Pop Punk/Post-Hardcore sound of the Long Island and Jersey scenes that bred them. That's fine. However, interviews with Lacey where he has this self-aggrandized vision of his work and his penchant to produce "cryptic lyrics" in a vain attempt to sound like his predecessors when, much of those same lyrics are throw away lines that aren't necessary and mean nothing (essentially, pretentious posturing), along with the absurdity of many of their fans leads to this disingenuous and bolstered view of themselves. "We're different and transcend our roots."

Sure, great, but Pop Punk and the shitty, contrived bands that litter the scene never pretend to be anything other than fun, infectious, mindless pop bands. Brand New, again, conveys this self-aggrandized sense of importance when, in fact, they're merely an adequate amalgam of bands that are much better than they are. It's dishonest. They're not much better than the Pop Punk bands they were once associated with, to be honest.

i think what he means by this is brand new are not going to sit there and lock themselves into one genre, like countless other bands who started out pop-punk, because of a failure to appreiciate anything outside of a scene. its one thing to enjoy writing that music and the community it provides among similar bands, but to close yourself off from all else is just ludicrous and an example of musical immaturity, as well as a lack of appreciation for musical individuality. even if they do sound like countless indie bands who have done it before, they're still better than a band in the scene who does the same thing becuase they're expanding the ground of music they cover and thus diversity.

but i can understand where you get your opinion of the music if you read interviews and perceived arrogance and an air of self-importance.

[kearn1tm]

i think what he means by this is brand new are not going to sit there and lock themselves into one genre, like countless other bands who started out pop-punk, because of a failure to appreiciate anything outside of a scene. its one thing to enjoy writing that music and the community it provides among similar bands, but to close yourself off from all else is just ludicrous and an example of musical immaturity, as well as a lack of appreciation for musical individuality. even if they do sound like countless indie bands who have done it before, they're still better than a band in the scene who does the same thing becuase they're expanding the ground of music they cover and thus diversity.

but i can understand where you get your opinion of the music if you read interviews and perceived arrogance and an air of self-importance.

Yeah, it can be a subjective interpretation of what he's trying to say, but ultimately, I think, at least to an extent, Lacey cultivates the hopelessly devoted and narrow-minded "cult" (for lack of a better term) that believes Brand New are these unparalleled, subversive geniuses despite how much he apparently doesn't enjoy them.

[Chris Fallon]

Oh, not another argument involving Brand New... tsk tsk

[Genuma]

Don't you ever get tired of writing huge posts about Brand New, Ryan?

[theguy77]

Don't you ever get tired of writing huge posts about Brand New, Ryan?

most of the time im arguing brand new is only the topic because they're a good example. usually the points i make can be applicable to several situatoins of songwriting/progression of a band.

[Genuma]

most of the time im arguing brand new is only the topic because they're a good example. usually the points i make can be applicable to several situatoins of songwriting/progression of a band.
It's still a snore fest.

[theguy77]

It's still a snore fest.

it usually is for everyone whos not involved in the argument. but im a songwriter i like to talk about the technicalities of songwriting and the thought process of other songwriters.

[Genuma]

it usually is for everyone whos not involved in the argument. but im a songwriter i like to talk about the technicalities of songwriting and the thought process of other songwriters.
Haha. And listen to your own band over 500 times (that have been scrobbled onm last.fm).

[theguy77]

Haha. And listen to your own band over 500 times (that have been scrobbled onm last.fm).

hahaha hey its not my fault i forget to turn of last.fm when im analyzing my demos for ways to make my music better/to write lyrics.

[theguy77]

as a matter of fact right now im listening over vocals demos several times to get the melodies memorized and fix any parts that sound awkward/too empty

[Genuma]

hahaha hey its not my fault i forget to turn of last.fm when im analyzing my demos for ways to make my music better/to write lyrics.
It's still pretty damn funny that you're your own top listener by far.

[theguy77]

It's still pretty damn funny that you're your own top listener by far.

oh that will change soon ;-)

[Genuma]

as a matter of fact right now im listening over vocals demos several times to get the melodies memorized and fix any parts that sound awkward/too empty
You always sound too empty. Zing!

[Genuma]

oh that will change soon ;-)
When I put two of your songs on repeat for a week straight.

[theguy77]

You always sound too empty. Zing!

i didnt catch the zing. unless there wasnt one.

[theguy77]

When I put two of your songs on repeat for a week straight.

haha hopefully everyone will like it. its not that creative but i think its good for what it was intended.

[Genuma]

i didnt catch the zing. unless there wasnt one.
Sounding too hollow's a zinger in my book.
haha hopefully everyone will like it. its not that creative but i think its good for what it was intended.
What I've heard was good. :shrug:

[theguy77]

What I've heard was good. :shrug:

well what have you heard? that "forecast the overcast" song is on it but whatever else you've heard probably isnt.

[Genuma]

well what have you heard? that "forecast the overcast" song is on it but whatever else you've heard probably isnt.
Whatever was on your MySpace back in January.

[theguy77]

Whatever was on your MySpace back in January.

haha same stuff is there now. so yeah the best song on it is on the album. as is the piano/drums thingy but it's just an interlude, kind of a bridge to the two halves of the album.

[Genuma]

Haha. I think I remember the piano drums thing.

[theguy77]

Haha. I think I remember the piano drums thing.

haha i wrote that back before my band was even called northbrook, its over 2 years old. i wrote it in march 2006 haha. it's still fucking sweet to me though, it could just use better improv in the beginning, and some basslines and more authentic sounding computer drums (cause my real drummer hates playing that song and refuses to haha)

[Genuma]

Do you have more than two members yet?

[theguy77]

Do you have more than two members yet?

mehhh. its like this. we got two fill-in members, but 1) they're both in other bands 2) this isnt the style of music they normally like to play. plus they wouldnt work anyway because one's a massive pothead (which, i dont judge him for, but it can mess up the band if hes high all the time) and the other one is only good at traditional playing and sucks at the unusual methods required in underground music.

but thats not all. my drummer only likes pop-punk and mainstream hard rock. while we're writing pop-punk we work well together but i want to do different things like indie, post-hardcore, folk etc. later and he wouldnt like any of it, we'd butt heads a lot. the only reason im still in maryland is because of my band but since none of these members are going to work after this album is done im probably going to move to florida soon and start my band over there.

[namembal]

Fuck Ryan and fuck his band.

:-D

[theguy77]

Fuck Ryan and fuck his band.

:-D

NAKUL!!!1!!1!!

how is one of the two amazing indians on this forum?

[namembal]

NAKUL!!!1!!1!!

how is one of the two amazing indians on this forum?
Pretty shitty actually, lost my grandfather yesterday morning. :-(

[theguy77]

Pretty shitty actually, lost my grandfather yesterday morning. :-(

fuck man.. im so sorry to hear that. just dont lose yourself, try to continue living as he would want you to.

[Genuma]

mehhh. its like this. we got two fill-in members, but 1) they're both in other bands 2) this isnt the style of music they normally like to play. plus they wouldnt work anyway because one's a massive pothead (which, i dont judge him for, but it can mess up the band if hes high all the time) and the other one is only good at traditional playing and sucks at the unusual methods required in underground music.

but thats not all. my drummer only likes pop-punk and mainstream hard rock. while we're writing pop-punk we work well together but i want to do different things like indie, post-hardcore, folk etc. later and he wouldnt like any of it, we'd butt heads a lot. the only reason im still in maryland is because of my band but since none of these members are going to work after this album is done im probably going to move to florida soon and start my band over there.
Sounds complicated. So you're gonna dump all their asses?

[WakeUpBlondie]

lol wut @ the last 4 pages

[fran.182]

coming home is their best record...without doubts