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Chris March
06/29/04, 05:15 PM
A little message from Midtown (http://www.midtownrock.com)...

Today is the day brothers and sisters. Our album is officially out. We want to thank everyone who has helped us get to this point. All of you guys for sticking by us. So enjoy the record, it's as much yours as it is ours.

And go pick up the record if you haven't already. It's easily one of the best of the year.

Guy
06/29/04, 05:19 PM
The album sucks. More generic pop-punk is EXACTLY what is needed in the world of music. I can't wait for these bands to get dropped from whatever label they're on in 2 years.

falloutncambria
06/29/04, 05:26 PM
thats what you guys said about name taken and my chemical romance and theyre both terrible

OnLegendary21
06/29/04, 05:45 PM
If it's any consolation, I bought this cd and MCR. I like the Midtown one better, but MCR is a good one too.

BrandNew20
06/29/04, 05:46 PM
The album sucks. More generic pop-punk is EXACTLY what is needed in the world of music. I can't wait for these bands to get dropped from whatever label they're on in 2 years.

This really isn't generic pop-punk at all. If you want to consider it pop-punk thats fine, but if you listen to the record, what pop-punk band recently has made a song like Is It Me, Is It True or So Long as We Keep Our Bodies Numb We're Safe?...As For this record being the best of the year so far, its either number 1 or 2, I haven't decided if I like Pollyanna better or not.

ReFused23
06/29/04, 05:47 PM
ill sum the album up:

tons of BORING rock songs, with some interludes that were thrown in by the band to make everyone think they should be taken seriously

akster
06/29/04, 05:50 PM
The album sucks. More generic pop-punk is EXACTLY what is needed in the world of music. I can't wait for these bands to get dropped from whatever label they're on in 2 years.
your album sucks

bob-is-dumb
06/29/04, 05:52 PM
your album sucks


your silly

Nate_RAWKS
06/29/04, 06:00 PM
thats what you guys said about name taken and my chemical romance and theyre both terrible

MCR and Name Taken are two of the best albums of the year with the third being Pollyanna. Get a clue...

MistaChang
06/29/04, 06:05 PM
Name Taken and MCR do not deserve any of this bashing hah... if you can't see the genius behind them, consider yourself blind... or just f**kin deaf. As for the Midtown CD, I don't understand the hype...

ADyingBreed
06/29/04, 06:12 PM
this cd is incredible, ive had it for months now but finally bought it today just because its such an incredible record. i also picked up mcr as well, which i like a lot. i dont see many cds beating forget what you know this year period. when i first heard is it me is it true i thought to myself this is not the midtown i know and love but ive come to realize that this is the new midtown which i love more than ever.

Frank Giaramita
06/29/04, 06:29 PM
ill sum the album up:

tons of BORING rock songs, with some interludes that were thrown in by the band to make everyone think they should be taken seriously

agreed, they should've stopped making music after MCA/DTR gave them the boot.

bob-is-dumb
06/29/04, 06:32 PM
Meh, it seems like they really tried to come up with deep lyrics and stuff, but it's all been done before. It was definitely worth the $7.99 I paid at Best Buy, but I'm not sure how long this will stay in my cd player. (Then again, I might end up eating my words and this could turn out to be my favorite cd in a couple of weeks).



when deja entendu came out i thought brand new was tryin to be too deep but after a week or 2 it became one of my favorites.. im thinkin thats whats gonna happen with this midtown cd

SubtleAsABrick
06/29/04, 06:44 PM
hey, i've tried to like this fuckin record, i've been listening to it on and off for a month but i really can't say anything that great about it. theres a few decent songs, but it really doesnt compare to their old cds at all. or to the new mcr since everyone wants to talk about that on this thread as well. that actually may be the best new one i've heard this year.

Scuba Chris
06/29/04, 06:46 PM
people have to learn to just enjoy the music.
I have never been the biggest Midtown fan, and I am not claiming this to be one of the best albums of the year either. But this is a very solid album, those who dismissed as some generic pop-punk are missing out because this album sounds nothing like the punk music that has been released in the past 10 years.
This is a rock album that is very well put together. Nice vocal and guitar layering throughout. I was quite impressed with this effort by Midtown.
The lyrics are pretty out there, some may call it deep, I don't care for all the lyrics on the album, but I appreciate that its not generic emo-punk bs.
Buy the album you won't regret it.

AnonomusVsCA
06/29/04, 07:49 PM
this album is worse than their last, which is sad because i thought that one was trash. THE ACADEMY IS... has put out the best music of this year

bossman calling
06/29/04, 08:09 PM
And go pick up the record if you haven't already. It's easily one of the best of the year.
hahahahaha i don't find it to be a terrible album, but wow. no, just...no.

nud0
06/29/04, 08:18 PM
this album is worse than their last, which is sad because i thought that one was trash. THE ACADEMY IS... has put out the best music of this year Stay away from this web site.

This album is by far one of the best of this year. The cd has a strong message throughout the entirety of the album. Gabe is an amazing person along with the other members of the band. If you dislike this cd at first, give it some time and try to look past the hype and look past people’s opinions.

SmashUrGuitars
06/29/04, 08:27 PM
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SmashUrGuitars
06/29/04, 08:29 PM
The album sucks. More generic pop-punk is EXACTLY what is needed in the world of music. I can't wait for these bands to get dropped from whatever label they're on in 2 years.
you haven't even heard it yet is my guess right? and if you took the time to then you wouldnm't make that ignorant comment. get a life you're not gonna get bands dropped by posting on a message board, so in conclusion Fuck You, thanks.

newfoundglory00
06/29/04, 08:30 PM
ill sum the album up:

tons of BORING rock songs, with some interludes that were thrown in by the band to make everyone think they should be taken seriously

i was disappointed with it, but damn everyone went and picked this one up along with MCR today, so did I. what are the odds

xstraylightrunx
06/29/04, 08:39 PM
I think this album is pretty good and definetely one of the top 10 for this year. my number one would definetely be "pollyanna," number two "three cheers for sweet revenge," and three would be another album i picked up today, atreyu's "the curse."

Shark90576
06/29/04, 08:40 PM
Another CD let me down due to the hype. This CD isn't horrible, but in my opinion, it doesn't come close to living up to the hype around it. This goes the same for the TBS CD. I love both of these bands, but the new stuff they made just doesn't do it for me. Hopefully in a month or so when i pop these cd's back in, my opinion will change, but as of right now, they stand as big let downs. :neutral:

Since everyone's been talking about the best CD's of the year, I have to give the new My Chemical Romance cd the best, followed by Name Taken. That's just for now though, maybe something else will come and blow these 2 records out of the water.

ShoeSh1ne
06/29/04, 08:43 PM
I like the old Midtown better.

Frank Giaramita
06/29/04, 08:58 PM
people have to learn to just enjoy the music.


how do u learn to enjoy something that's unenjoyable?

Frank Giaramita
06/29/04, 09:04 PM
you haven't even heard it yet is my guess right? and if you took the time to then you wouldnm't make that ignorant comment. get a life you're not gonna get bands dropped by posting on a message board, so in conclusion Fuck You, thanks.

when did he say he was trying to get midtown dropped? I dont see that statement anywhere in there. And I like how you can call him ignorant yet show absolutely no respect for his opinion what so ever, it seems you're the closed minded, ignorant one around here. also, you can't "thank" someone you didnt request anything from : "you're a ignorant ass hole...thanks". ??? that makes no fucking sense.

OnLegendary21
06/29/04, 09:23 PM
What I want to know is what's with this crazy FBI shit all over it?

robdobi
06/29/04, 09:38 PM
i think a lot of the "albums of the year" recommendations on here couldn't be any more far off. here are some of the hottest jams to come out this year, trust me...

sex positions - st - if i knew how to mosh i would. fucking awesome. hardcore / punk rock record of the year
brandston - send us a signal - these dudes never change yet never let down.
despistado - ep - more bands need to rip off at the drive in rather than taking back sunday.
the good life - lovers need lawyers - kasher is one poor tormented sap, i love it.
owen - ep - kinsella does his best stuff since american football.
minus the bear - they make beer commercialls... - yet another amazing ep this year, jesus.

SmashUrGuitars
06/29/04, 09:49 PM
when did he say he was trying to get midtown dropped? I dont see that statement anywhere in there. And I like how you can call him ignorant yet show absolutely no respect for his opinion what so ever, it seems you're the closed minded, ignorant one around here. also, you can't "thank" someone you didnt request anything from : "you're a ignorant ass hole...thanks". ??? that makes no fucking sense.
okay dick, first off he said he could not wait untill these "pop- punk" bands get dropped of their labels. i never said he was trying to get Midtown dropped. Secondly, you are the most ignorant of all for skimming my post and not taking anything from it. If you learned how to properly read a post, then you could give me advice upon mine. Oh and I "can't thank someone I didn't request anything from"? I requested that people read my statement by posting it correct? Therefore i was thanking them. If you took care of your mistakes perhaps you could then judge mine, so therefore Fuck YOU...Thanks for proving me right.

Brett727272
06/29/04, 11:07 PM
radiocore, thats all i have to say. i like give it up even though i guess its a single or something. but the cd doesnt have anything that EVERY other band out there isnt doing. way over hyped.

howtostartafire
06/29/04, 11:10 PM
i am just stunned at the close mindedness of everybody here. I know that most ppl that post here are probably 16-17 and when I had narrow music focus at that age I might have thought the same thing. This is not generic pop-punk. This has not been done before. I don't even know what to call besides just straight up rock. i've always been a midtown fan...living well is my fav. poppunk album of all time. This is something new, different, but hype aside - its a very, very good album.

robdobi
06/29/04, 11:27 PM
This has not been done before. I don't even know what to call besides just straight up rock.

i'm not knocking the town or anything, but you are basically saying that straight up rock is breaking down the walls. c'mon.

tsrshorty
06/30/04, 12:06 AM
the last song is exactly like goodbye sky harbor.....but worse.

Guy
06/30/04, 12:29 AM
i think a lot of the "albums of the year" recommendations on here couldn't be any more far off. here are some of the hottest jams to come out this year, trust me...

sex positions - st - if i knew how to mosh i would. fucking awesome. hardcore / punk rock record of the year
brandston - send us a signal - these dudes never change yet never let down.
despistado - ep - more bands need to rip off at the drive in rather than taking back sunday.
the good life - lovers need lawyers - kasher is one poor tormented sap, i love it.
owen - ep - kinsella does his best stuff since american football.
minus the bear - they make beer commercialls... - yet another amazing ep this year, jesus.

THANK YOU!!!

Of the names I recognize on this list, all of them are infinitely better than Midtown's shit-filled release.

I feel sorry for the members of Midtown because I bet they had to have a lot of awkward conversations in the studio where they had to reassure themselves that they don't have an ounce of originality.

What's funny is that Brand New's album title implied "already heard" yet it was a refreshing change. And Midtown's title implies "whole new sound" yet it goes absolutely nowhere new.

http://www.insomniaville.com/aloha/

howtostartafire
06/30/04, 01:01 AM
i'm not knocking the town or anything, but you are basically saying that straight up rock is breaking down the walls. c'mon.

i don't recall ever saying that this was ground breaking or "breaking down the walls", rob. i said its a really good album, and I think its quite different from all the pop-punk bands people are comparing it to.

robdobi
06/30/04, 01:22 AM
i think it was a step in the right direction as the pop punk ship is sinking fast. not saying they totally abandoned their previous sound, it is definitely still there, but taking more of a rock n roll approach certainly helped seperate them a bit from their peers.

bluetunehead
06/30/04, 03:19 AM
what pop-punk band recently has made a song like...So Long as We Keep Our Bodies Numb We're Safe?

well, i wouldn't call them pop-punk and it was 6 years ago, but Jimmy Eat World did it, and they did it better. it's recent enough so that i can comfortably say that Midtown ripped them off.

Jared Kaufman
06/30/04, 06:02 AM
i think a lot of the "albums of the year" recommendations on here couldn't be any more far off. here are some of the hottest jams to come out this year, trust me...


brandston - send us a signal - these dudes never change yet never let down.
minus the bear - they make beer commercialls... - yet another amazing ep this year, jesus.

THANK YOU DOBI! More reasons to love you. These definitely need to be on everyone's list hence the reason I've been recommending them like WHOA!

BrandNew20
06/30/04, 06:15 AM
well, i wouldn't call them pop-punk and it was 6 years ago, but Jimmy Eat World did it, and they did it better. it's recent enough so that i can comfortably say that Midtown ripped them off.

yeah, I know that its like Goodbye Sky Harbor, probably a band did it before Jimmy Eat World too...but if you look at the lyrics of this song and how its starts off pretty hard before mellowing out in the interlude, its different.

davedesloover18
06/30/04, 06:39 AM
And go pick up the record if you haven't already. It's easily one of the best of the year.
"umm...yeah....I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there" - Bill Lumberg

Home Town Hero
06/30/04, 07:07 AM
ummmm why does everyone always have to compare new albums with other albums? enjoy it for what it is regardless of what other albums are better/....these guys work their asses off to write music and ***s like you just trash it...you have no idea.

xshley
06/30/04, 07:47 AM
I like the old Midtown better.

ditto

EvenBetterYet
06/30/04, 08:14 AM
What I want to know is what's with this crazy FBI shit all over it?

apparently all the new sony cds have it.

MidniteVulture
06/30/04, 09:18 AM
There's nothing poppunk about this album, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about.

I enjoy this album a lot, to me it reminds me of the new Autopilot Off or that Recover EP, just a solid rock release.

TheTimeItTakes
06/30/04, 10:35 AM
There's nothing poppunk about this album, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about.

I enjoy this album a lot, to me it reminds me of the new Autopilot Off or that Recover EP, just a solid rock release.

Haha, there's this one part where I always have a good laugh with in Give It Up where gabe goes, "alright, (stop waiting)." It reminds me of Recover's "Bad Timing" where he says, "(it's just fine)....alright!" It probably doesn't even sound similiar if you hear it back-to-back, but it was the first thing I thought of when I heard Give it up. Speaking of Recover, I am still in complete awe of their new album. It hasn't left my CD players in about 3 weeks now and I don't see that pattern changing.

Anyway, back to Midtown: it's beyond me that people are calling this album pop-punk. Some of the criticisms that people come up with blows my mind but "I have become inured without becoming indifferent." As a huge JEW and a Midtown fan, as far as the song itself goes, So Long.. sounds nothing like Goodbye Sky Harbor. Yes, they both have the obvious similarity but even that is a bit different as JEW doesn't repeat the exact same thing over again (they switch it up a bit). I remember how Zach was talking about how he had to do that drumming for so long, and if he had dropped his stick or something, he would've just given up because there was no way he would do that all over again. I wonder if Midtown had to go through something like that.

I guess other similarities include that they both are the perfect endings to their respective albums, and both of the songs are in each band's best album. So you guys are absolutely right. They are so similiar!

Recover and Midtown are all I can handle right now - I hope no other great albums come out this year, but that is highly unlikely with JEW and HRC's release.

LeftWideOpen
06/30/04, 11:01 AM
um, i have never been a midtown fan. and i havent picked up the record. but, they didn't like what they were doin before ..and they did something about it. that alone deserves some credit, in my opinion.

and everyone needs to lighten up. music is supposed to be something for enjoyment, not debate.

AnonomusVsCA
06/30/04, 11:09 AM
i used to be a midtown fan. then they sold out and went to drive thru

burnpianoisland
06/30/04, 11:10 AM
i am just stunned at the close mindedness of everybody here. I know that most ppl that post here are probably 16-17 and when I had narrow music focus at that age I might have thought the same thing. This is not generic pop-punk. This has not been done before. I don't even know what to call besides just straight up rock. i've always been a midtown fan...living well is my fav. poppunk album of all time. This is something new, different, but hype aside - its a very, very good album.
so how old are you? 18?

Frank Giaramita
06/30/04, 11:40 AM
okay dick, first off he said he could not wait untill these "pop- punk" bands get dropped of their labels. i never said he was trying to get Midtown dropped. Secondly, you are the most ignorant of all for skimming my post and not taking anything from it. If you learned how to properly read a post, then you could give me advice upon mine. Oh and I "can't thank someone I didn't request anything from"? I requested that people read my statement by posting it correct? Therefore i was thanking them. If you took care of your mistakes perhaps you could then judge mine, so therefore Fuck YOU...Thanks for proving me right.


"blah blah fuck you..blah blah fuck you"..thats always the ignorant response around here. it seems the word "fuck you" carries a more solid point than anything intelligent you could come up with. Besides, your statment really makes no sense to me. "I requested that people read my statement by posting it correct?" is that a question? and what the hell are you asking if it is a question?? and this comment "you're not gonna get bands dropped by posting on a message board" is implying that this kid is TRYING to get midtown dropped, bc you wouldnt have said that if you didnt think he was. Thanks for strengtining an already strong point


"Thanks for proving me right."... There ya go, you learned how to use the word "thanks" correctly!...you're making progress :wink3:

lopper316
06/30/04, 12:09 PM
i'm sorry but everything released after save the world .... has sucked. they need more songs with "come on ......... lets go !" thats what midtown is good for.

SmashUrGuitars
06/30/04, 12:10 PM
"blah blah fuck you..blah blah fuck you"..thats always the ignorant response around here. it seems the word "fuck you" carries a more solid point than anything intelligent you could come up with. Besides, your statment really makes no sense to me. "I requested that people read my statement by posting it correct?" is that a question? and what the hell are you asking if it is a question?? and this comment "you're not gonna get bands dropped by posting on a message board" is implying that this kid is TRYING to get midtown dropped, bc you wouldnt have said that if you didnt think he was. Thanks for strengtining an already strong point


"Thanks for proving me right."... There ya go, you learned how to use the word "thanks" correctly!...you're making progress :wink3:
You have no clue what ignorance is apparently as you show so much of it in everthing you've posted on this thread and by backing a person who has no knowledge of that which he critiques. And as for the fuck you thing... i believe my statement before this sufficiently summed up my solid point, i just wanted to personally attack you :lol2:. Oh and i was asking you if i was correct in the statement but i guess simpletons need not study correct word forms? You have no clue what you are even arguing about anymore and if YOU (notice I said IF so the words IGNORANCE and I never said that... aren't thrown around) think this album is pop-punk you are indeed a fool worthy of ridiclue. So in conclusion theres a nice book by some person named Webster.. might wanna pick it up huh? :iamwithst

IPS Josh
06/30/04, 12:53 PM
This record freaking kills. I am a big Midtown fan, so I'm sure that no one will take my post seriously, but honestly...have you listened to it? Pure rock n'roll. Awesome lead parts. Great lyrics. Originality. Come on.

JOSHatesme

Scuba Chris
06/30/04, 01:29 PM
i'm sorry but everything released after save the world .... has sucked. they need more songs with "come on ......... lets go !" thats what midtown is good for.


so a band is just supposed to keep putting the same album out over and over again.
if that's what you want that's fine but I am sure most people, including the bands themselves, want a band to show growth and evolution. Something different from what they have been done before.

EmoRox0rz
06/30/04, 02:45 PM
It's not pop-punk anymore, but that doesn't mean it can't totally suck. Actually, it's probably even less enjoyable than the old stuff - their generic melodies, inane lyrics, and retardedly out of place guitar soloing sounded better when the songs were actually fun and upbeat. Now it's all a big long drag.

Pop-punk, "straight up rock", indie, whatever it is - bad songwriting is bad songwriting. No matter how "serious" these guys attempt to be, they will never be any good to anyone over 11.

howtostartafire
06/30/04, 02:48 PM
so how old are you? 18?

20. and by looking at your profile, I see you are 16. way to prove my point, thanks.

bossman calling
06/30/04, 05:51 PM
so a band is just supposed to keep putting the same album out over and over again.
if that's what you want that's fine but I am sure most people, including the bands themselves, want a band to show growth and evolution. Something different from what they have been done before.
Exactly. That's why I don't listen to Pennywise anymore.

Frank Giaramita
07/01/04, 04:27 PM
You have no clue what ignorance is apparently as you show so much of it in everthing you've posted on this thread and by backing a person who has no knowledge of that which he critiques. And as for the fuck you thing... i believe my statement before this sufficiently summed up my solid point, i just wanted to personally attack you :lol2:. Oh and i was asking you if i was correct in the statement but i guess simpletons need not study correct word forms? You have no clue what you are even arguing about anymore and if YOU (notice I said IF so the words IGNORANCE and I never said that... aren't thrown around) think this album is pop-punk you are indeed a fool worthy of ridiclue. So in conclusion theres a nice book by some person named Webster.. might wanna pick it up huh? :iamwithst

I'm not arguing that the album is pop punk or not, nor am i backing a person who has "no knowledge of the topic" (which is close minded in itself. Just bc someone feels differently than you, doesnt mean they lack knowledge.) Unfortunately you totally missed my argument, maybe you read with your eyes closed or maybe you were wacking off to a porno while typing, but my point is...RESPECT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. If someone says "this album sucks, it's to pop punk" than say "i disagree, i don't like this album blah blah". It's called TACT and RESPECT, it gets a point across a lot better than "fuck you you have no knowledge of this fuck you, fuck you fuck you dick head ass hole douche bag cunt whore shlong ass dyke"...that just makes you look like you have no knowledge of ANYTHING, yet alone the topic that's being talked about. In all honestly, I couldn't give a flying vagina whether this CD is pop punk or not because labels are just opinions, and everybody considers different labels as different things. What you may call pop punk might be screamo to me, etc. So, in essence, it's impossible for a label to be wrong or "un knowledge filled". if you can manage a way to call someone who has a different opinion than you "a fool worthy of ridiclue" than you are indeed IGNORANT and close minded. The only two labels in music are GOOD MUSIC and BAD MUSIC, the rest are made up words to help organize a cd store, they mean nothing and are taken a different by each and every person.

P.S.- proofread your replies bc your wording is like a 12 page crossword puzzle...in spanish. One more thing, It's impossible to "personally attack" someone who you don't know personally. Actually, I take that back,it is possible but its not called "personally attacking" it's called "looking stupid".

Guy
07/01/04, 04:45 PM
It's not pop-punk anymore, but that doesn't mean it can't totally suck. Actually, it's probably even less enjoyable than the old stuff - their generic melodies, inane lyrics, and retardedly out of place guitar soloing sounded better when the songs were actually fun and upbeat. Now it's all a big long drag.

Pop-punk, "straight up rock", indie, whatever it is - bad songwriting is bad songwriting. No matter how "serious" these guys attempt to be, they will never be any good to anyone over 11.


zing!

SmashUrGuitars
07/01/04, 08:41 PM
I'm not arguing that the album is pop punk or not, nor am i backing a person who has "no knowledge of the topic" (which is close minded in itself. Just bc someone feels differently than you, doesnt mean they lack knowledge.) Unfortunately you totally missed my argument, maybe you read with your eyes closed or maybe you were wacking off to a porno while typing, but my point is...RESPECT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. If someone says "this album sucks, it's to pop punk" than say "i disagree, i don't like this album blah blah". It's called TACT and RESPECT, it gets a point across a lot better than "fuck you you have no knowledge of this fuck you, fuck you fuck you dick head ass hole douche bag cunt whore shlong ass dyke"...that just makes you look like you have no knowledge of ANYTHING, yet alone the topic that's being talked about. In all honestly, I couldn't give a flying vagina whether this CD is pop punk or not because labels are just opinions, and everybody considers different labels as different things. What you may call pop punk might be screamo to me, etc. So, in essence, it's impossible for a label to be wrong or "un knowledge filled". if you can manage a way to call someone who has a different opinion than you "a fool worthy of ridiclue" than you are indeed IGNORANT and close minded. The only two labels in music are GOOD MUSIC and BAD MUSIC, the rest are made up words to help organize a cd store, they mean nothing and are taken a different by each and every person.

P.S.- proofread your replies bc your wording is like a 12 page crossword puzzle...in spanish. One more thing, It's impossible to "personally attack" someone who you don't know personally. Actually, I take that back,it is possible but its not called "personally attacking" it's called "looking stupid".
congratulations you are the biggest idiot i have ever had the "pleasure" of arguing with. notice the sarcasm...flying vagina ehl oh ehl.