As I Lay Dying and Unearth [Archive]

still_life

07/22/04, 03:10 PM

Would you consider these bands to be similar? I think they are.

Of course Unearth is better, but let's not go there.

hXc_pwnage

07/22/04, 03:53 PM

Not too much.

Maybe a little bit.

still_life

07/22/04, 04:11 PM

d/l these two clips and tell me again. I'm just curious

http://s2.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=E5EC882F51BF71D357A037570 6335D23
http://s2.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=C5FFCC4F13627C064A751277D E6CC8E4

Patrick

07/22/04, 04:21 PM

I saw As I Lay Dying two weeks ago, they were so technical, like you know how some bands may change there sound when there live? AILD didnt do that at all, but since they did that, there wasnt much stage presence. There singer is pretty cool though.

paen

07/22/04, 05:24 PM

similar in that their music sounds exactly the same or similar in that they can play shows together. they are def same genre to play shows together.

The Bled 13

07/22/04, 05:42 PM

I listen to both of those guys quite a lot, and I can hear the similarities but I don't really care if they sound the same.

They both kick fucking hard ass.

FalloutGuy

07/22/04, 06:15 PM

I listen to both of those guys quite a lot, and I can hear the similarities but I don't really care if they sound the same.

They both kick fucking hard ass.
My words coming out his mouth...

still_life

07/22/04, 06:19 PM

similar in that their music sounds exactly the same or similar in that they can play shows together. they are def same genre to play shows together.

Musical similarities. And no, not if they sound exactly the same. Just similar. Yes? No?

BanMe

07/22/04, 08:38 PM

Would you consider these bands to be similar? I think they are.

Of course Unearth is better, but let's not go there.

Somewhat, but some of As I Lay Dying's songs seem to be more influenced by bands like Converge.

13th hour

07/22/04, 10:02 PM

Would you consider these bands to be similar? I think they are.

Of course Unearth is better, but let's not go there.

arent these guys on tour together in August or something? I think thats right... all I know for sure though is their both coming here, Im just not sure if its together... I agree about AILD sounding more influenced by converge.

still_life

07/22/04, 10:05 PM

I don't know about that. Converge sounds awesome to me. AILD sounds like generic shit.

13th hour

07/22/04, 11:26 PM

theres no denying converge is awesome, but some of the parts of AILD sounds very converge sounding.. like, whoa, thats something that Converge would have done.

boysdontcry

07/22/04, 11:46 PM

13th hour

07/22/04, 11:49 PM

as i lay dying is more hardcore influenced, while unearth is more influenced by the new wave of swedish metal. they sound kind of similar, not really, but who cares? they are two great bands in a specific genre of music and they both fucking kick ass.

honestly, Im getting kind of tired of swedish death metal influencing hardcore. Dont get me wrong, Im all for trying new things, but I just dont like the whole Gothenburg, in flames type of riff and technicnal guitar in every song. Thats totally sweet if you have the chops to play technichal guitar lines, but dont sacrifice songwriting, something that hadcore is known for, great songwriting.

boysdontcry

07/22/04, 11:51 PM

oh and i want to say, a band doesn't have to be original to be great. they have to simply write great songs. both as i lay dying and unearth write great metal songs so they are two great metal bands. not all metalcore has to sound like converge (even though converge is one of my favorite bands). just listen to whatever the fuck sounds enjoyable to you.

sincerely,
AP's resident metal god.... me.

xoxo.

boysdontcry

07/22/04, 11:53 PM

honestly, Im getting kind of tired of swedish death metal influencing hardcore. Dont get me wrong, Im all for trying new things, but I just dont like the whole Gothenburg, in flames type of riff and technicnal guitar in every song. Thats totally sweet if you have the chops to play technichal guitar lines, but dont sacrifice songwriting, something that hadcore is known for, great songwriting.
haha you are telling this to a person who loves the gothenburg style with all his heart. hehe. that's not all the metal i like though, i listen to a a lot of hardcore, death, and black metal. i never get sick of swedish metal though.

boysdontcry

07/23/04, 12:18 AM

oh and if you want to get technical about it, there are a lot of differences between swedish metal and this kind of american swedish influenced metalcore. the most notable difference is the vocals. also devoid from america's wonderful rehash of this great genre is the synthesizers. don't forget that whole "verses with no guitar just distorted bass"-thing that those wacky swedes do.

13th hour

07/23/04, 12:28 AM

thats true about the synthesizers, but I guess Im just one of those people who likes hardcore but doesnt really like metal, especially black or death metal.

boysdontcry

07/23/04, 12:32 AM

well there you go. that's where we differ my friend.

now let's go rock the fuck out mother fuckers!

13th hour

07/23/04, 12:34 AM

what are your thoughts on hardcore dancing?

boysdontcry

07/23/04, 12:36 AM

moshing is ok with me, but hardcore dancing annoys the hell out of me.

13th hour

07/23/04, 12:43 AM

I like both.

boysdontcry

07/23/04, 12:48 AM

metal kids don't hardcore dance. metal kids feel the rock from deep within their soul and this manifests itself as a severe case of whiplash.

Patrick

07/23/04, 06:35 AM

its all about hardcore dancing, especially when the whole crowed is into it. its amazing, id rather hardcore dance, then skank or homo punk mosh.

GothamCity_hXc

07/23/04, 10:37 AM

I pretty much agree with boysdontcry on practically all they've said.

BanMe

07/23/04, 11:29 AM

I don't know about that. Converge sounds awesome to me. AILD sounds like generic shit.

I don't mean that they sound like Converge exactly, but they sound like a band trying to sound like Converge. Some of their songs have more of a chaotic feel, instead of the melodic riffing of Unearth.

boysdontcry

07/23/04, 11:33 AM

I don't mean that they sound like Converge exactly, but they sound like a band trying to sound like Converge. Some of their songs have more of a chaotic feel, instead of the melodic riffing of Unearth.
i honestly dont think as i lay dying sounds like converge (or a band trying to sound like converge). sure some of the songs are more chaotic than others, but they still don't sound like converge to me. plus AILD has more melodic riffing than unearth does.

BanMe

07/23/04, 11:49 AM

i honestly dont think as i lay dying sounds like converge (or a band trying to sound like converge). sure some of the songs are more chaotic than others, but they still don't sound like converge to me. plus AILD has more melodic riffing than unearth does.

I don't think so, more(almost all) of Unearth's songs are based around melodic riffing, some parts of AILD songs definitely sound like they pulled straight out of the Converge playbook. I had to break out the CD to remember what songs I was specifically referring to, but I was talking about track 5 and track 8.

The Bled 13

07/23/04, 03:37 PM

Unearth is going on tour with Lamb Of God, Atreyu and Everytime I Die while on Ozzfest, kind of like a second show thing I guess you could call it.

The Bled 13

07/23/04, 03:39 PM

I like both bands, still.

YearsGoneBy

07/23/04, 04:41 PM

what the hell is sweedish metal and gothenburg style?

oh, and both bands kick ass and they do sound a bit similar

ohlookitspaul

07/23/04, 04:44 PM

inserting this:

i dunno about metal, but kent is an amazing swedish band.

ok continue on...

still_life

07/23/04, 05:38 PM

Gothenburg is really just another way of saying melodic death metal that's influenced by At The Gates, the band to start that style.