Biggest Album Disapointment

[bentleyj98]

Hey everyone what is it for you? Mine would have to be Cartel's self titled album. It's jsut horrible Chroma had some decent tracks, but the new one, talk about sophomore slump

[versus_god]

Cartel was always bad.

[KatieKutthroat.]

Cartel is bad. All of their songs sound exactly the same. I didnt hear much of a difference between their two albums at all.

[x togepi x]

jay-z-kingdom come

[Chris Reynolds]

TSOAF - Lover, the Lord Has Left Us (what a jarbled, thrown together piece of shit overrated album this was)

Emery - I'm Only A Man (while not a huge Emery fan, I still somewhat liked their first two albums, and didn't see this bomb coming at all)

Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam (they continue to move farther and farther away from their original sound into just another trippy electronic band)

Devendra Banhart - Smokey Rolls Down... (has its moments, but this is the first Banhart CD that has more bad songs than good ones)

[makeasound]

Yellowcard - Lights and Sounds.
My hopes were way up for this record, considering how much I loved the rest of their catalog. And to this day I can't get into the record. I just feel nothing when I listen to it.

Very glad that Paper Walls is a much more solid release.

[airik625]

Emery - I'm Only A Man (while not a huge Emery fan, I still somewhat liked their first two albums, and didn't see this bomb coming at all)


So disappointing.

[wtfmates]

Bright Eyes - Cassadaga.

I loved every other cd, but this one was a let-down.

[Chris Reynolds]

Bright Eyes - Cassadaga.

I loved every other cd, but this one was a let-down.

Forgot about this one, and it's definitely added to my list. So disappointed in this album.

[airik625]

Bright Eyes - Cassadaga.

I loved every other cd, but this one was a let-down.

Are you kidding? I love Cassadaga.

[nikaidoh]

Nas' past 3 albums have been major disappointments. Especially with the over-hype of his last album. It's an okay album, but Nas is one of the Top 5 greatest MC's, everything he drops should be unique and definitely hot. But it seems that his production team/lyrical content have gone more to the mainstream he was dissing in "Hip Hop is Dead". If Jay-Z can drop a great album every couple of years, Nas should drop one every week.

[KatieKutthroat.]

Rilo Kiley's Under the Blacklight.

[airik625]

Rilo Kiley's Under the Blacklight.

That actually was kind of disappointing. I really enjoy about half the tracks on there, the other half just doesn't do it for me.

[Chris Reynolds]

Also

Lovedrug's Everything Starts Where It Ends

[TheOtherAndrew]

Foo Fighters - Echoes, Silence, Patience, Grace

[TheOtherAndrew]

Are you kidding? I love Cassadaga.
Thank you.

[KatieKutthroat.]

Are you kidding? I love Cassadaga.

I enjoyed Cassadaga as well, I don't see why some people have such a problem with it.

That actually was kind of disappointing. I really enjoy about half the tracks on there, the other half just doesn't do it for me.

It has a few decent songs, and "Silver Lining" is fantastic, but as an album I was really expecting more. They went in a weird direction.

[spriltsc]

I think the new CIWWAF record is disappointing even though i wasn't expecting much.

Other albums that are disappointing:
Straylight Run- Needles and the Space (i had HIGH expectations from mr. nolan and his crew)
AVA-I Empire (sucks except for secret crowds)

[googirl8907]

Powerspace's The Kicks Of Passion. Their EP had so much energy and the album was so dull.

[ThisIsNotDan]

AFI - Decemberunderground
Foo Fighters - One By One
Say Anything - In Defense of the Genre
The Chemical Brothers - We Are The Night
Circa Survive - On Letting Go
Envy On The Coast - Lucy Gray
Every Time I Die - The Big Dirty
Metallica - St. Anger
Nine Inch Nails - With Teeth

crap follow-ups to excellent albums. NIN and Say Anything were the worst for me

[hailthewarrior]

Mae - Singularity

[Chris Reynolds]

Mae - Singularity

Since when was Mae good enough to have a disappointing album?

[hailthewarrior]

Since when was Mae good enough to have a disappointing album?

Destination: Beautiful and The Everglow were very good albums, IMO.

[zeropunk16]

Chiodos - Bone Palace Ballet

[Chris Reynolds]

Destination: Beautiful and The Everglow were very good albums, IMO.

Destination: Beautiful, while easily their best effort, was simply above average. They've gone downhill from there.

[HangsLikeHeaven]

Rilo Kiley's Under the Blacklight.

Good album.

[versus_god]

Searching For A Former Clarity/New Wave
Crimson/Agony & Irony

[ThisIsNotDan]

Foo Fighters - Echoes, Silence, Patience, Grace

really? why so?

[Carlo Marx]

alkaline trio - crimson
piebald - accidental gentlemen

[ThisIsNotDan]

Mae - Singularity

I know I'd get a lot of shit for this, but I rather enjoyed that album. aside from a more mainstream edge, there are some really good pop songs on it

[IWasaCamera]

A few recent ones that come to mind:

Josh Ritter - The Historical Conquests Of Josh Ritter
Ryan Adams - Easy Tiger
My Morning Jacket - Evil Urges
Page France - ...And The Family Telephone

[on a frequency]

Since when was Mae good enough to have a disappointing album?

ouch, man. the everglow and destination: beautiful were great.

[Angylion Gefell]

Gotta say Decemberunderground.

[on a frequency]

mae's singularity and aar's move along. they weren't terrible, but they weren't what i was expecting. singularity while interesting was just a liiittle too far from the older stuff for me, and move along just seemed like such a forced attempt to make an album that would secure mainstream success. i really do love a lot of songs off both albums though, so disappointments just to an extent.

[murrich]

I think the new CIWWAF record is disappointing even though i wasn't expecting much.

Other albums that are disappointing:
Straylight Run- Needles and the Space (i had HIGH expectations from mr. nolan and his crew)
AVA-I Empire (sucks except for secret crowds)

1. All Cute Is What We Aim For albums are bad.

2. Needles and the Space was better than their previous work.

3. Angels and Airwaves are bad.

[theguy77]

boys night out - self-titled
taking back sunday - louder now

both practically devastated me haha.

[Chris Reynolds]

A few recent ones that come to mind:

Josh Ritter - The Historical Conquests Of Josh Ritter
Ryan Adams - Easy Tiger
My Morning Jacket - Evil Urges
Page France - ...And The Family Telephone

Really? I rather liked it. Granted, it wasn't as good as Animal Years but it was still good imo

[chipdip18]

The Academy Is.. - Santi
MCS - Even If It Kills Me

[versus_god]

C I V I L W A R

[theguy77]

1. All Cute Is What We Aim For albums are bad.

2. Needles and the Space was better than their previous work.

3. Angels and Airwaves are bad.

fucking YES i havent yet heard an indie-pop act with better songwriting.

[x togepi x]

fucking YES i havent yet heard an indie-pop act with better songwriting.

i guess you don't really listen to much indie pop.

[theguy77]

i guess you don't really listen to much indie pop.

not as much as i'd like to no

recommendations?

[theguy77]

p.s. you dont give straylight run a credit of being talented songwriters with plenty of character?

[x togepi x]

not as much as i'd like to no

recommendations?

someone still loves you boris yeltsin.

i would say maritime but i don't remember if the last album was any good, and the album before the one i had was kind of mediocre too.

[cscwell107]

The Academy Is.. - Santi
MCS - Even If It Kills Me

Even if it kills me is a great record

[cscwell107]

Cartel- Cartel

[SickOfStars]

not as much as i'd like to no

recommendations?

honestly, bands with no affiliation with victory records or other bands that float around in the little scene circle.

music for grown ups

[theguy77]

honestly, bands with no affiliation with victory records or other bands that float around in the little scene circle.

music for grown ups

do straylight even float in that circle anymore? theyve made such a name for themsevles in my book that half the time i forget john was even part of taking back sunday, i view him as a seperate more creative entity.

[theguy77]

someone still loves you boris yeltsin.

i would say maritime but i don't remember if the last album was any good, and the album before the one i had was kind of mediocre too.

haha ive told you before i love them. i still find the needles the space better than the SSLYBY stuff i have.

[x togepi x]

haha ive told you before i love them. i still find the needles the space better than the SSLYBY stuff i have.

there's no way that it's better than the new album.

[theguy77]

there's no way that it's better than the new album.

i will fight you. hahaha

[x togepi x]

you can, but i've seen both bands, so...there's that.

[theguy77]

you can, but i've seen both bands, so...there's that.

oh i havent yet seen either haha. i'll give you that one.

[chipdip18]

Even if it kills me is a great record


compared to Commit This To Memory?

[theguy77]

i never got the MCS rage. the only song i find actually really enjoyable by them is "hello helicopter"

[chipdip18]

well it happens. I don't have I Am the Movie, but i like CTTM the best out of the last two. Good pop-punk that uses synth well. You aren't missing out on a whole lot, but they are fun.

[SickOfStars]

do straylight even float in that circle anymore? theyve made such a name for themsevles in my book that half the time i forget john was even part of taking back sunday, i view him as a seperate more creative entity.

I'm not really sure anyone else has that sort of impression...

The record was good from what I remember, but I personally didn't feel like ever listening again. It sat there in my library until the next cleaning day.

[chipdip18]

Oh the people who rave about TAYF know John was in Taking Back Sunday. But do people know that Jesse Lacey was originally in Taking Back Sunday? But be careful with that information, it could start like 25 threads.

[SickOfStars]

Oh the people who rave about TAYF know John was in Taking Back Sunday. But do people know that Jesse Lacey was originally in Taking Back Sunday? But be careful with that information, it could start like 25 threads.

in 2003

[theguy77]

I'm not really sure anyone else has that sort of impression...

The record was good from what I remember, but I personally didn't feel like ever listening again. It sat there in my library until the next cleaning day.

i personally found it very well crafted, i mean they spent a lot of time on that music i can tell. so many instruments all utilized to the fullest and performed with skill, every song sounded totally different and was well-rounded and multi-faceted, a roller coaster of moods and dynamics... just everything i look for in an album was on TNTS. i could tell it was a favorite from my first listen and went back and listened like 5 more times immediately afterward.

[theguy77]

well it happens. I don't have I Am the Movie, but i like CTTM the best out of the last two. Good pop-punk that uses synth well. You aren't missing out on a whole lot, but they are fun.

please tell me you enjoy the graduate

[chipdip18]

please tell me you enjoy the graduate


Hahaha. You are going to love this: Never gave them a proper listen.

[chipdip18]

in 2003


Anything about Jesse Lacey can start 25 threads in this forum.

[theguy77]

Hahaha. You are going to love this: Never gave them a proper listen.

what the fuck are you even doing talking about music without having heard the only good new band in the pop-punk scene right now?

[chipdip18]

what the fuck are you even doing talking about music without having heard the only good new band in the pop-punk scene right now?

I stopped following the pop-punk scene closely in 2006.

[x togepi x]

what the fuck are you even doing talking about music without having heard the only good new band in the pop-punk scene right now?

hyperbole alert

[theguy77]

seriously dude download their horror show EP immediately and then get onto their album anhedonia, you will not be disappointed. they have that synthy/dancey edge to them but its not forced in your face as much as it is with the other bands trying to be unique, and they do it better than anyone else. theres also a lotttt of atmosphere on the full-length. every single member of that band is insanely talented and innovative for the genre, like for serious corey is one of the best singers, tim's one of the better drummers, jared is like the most amazing pop-punk bassist, max's common use of delay in his guitar riffs is enthralling and a trademark of the band...

[theguy77]

hyperbole alert

try to name me one band in the fake pop-punk scene that started after 2005 and i could probably go on a rant and find several reasons why the graduate owns them hard.

[chipdip18]

Hahaha. Link me to a d/l?

[chipdip18]

try to name me one band in the fake pop-punk scene that started after 2005 and i could probably go on a rant and find several reasons why the graduate owns them hard.


Cute Is What We Aim For. Go!

[theguy77]

I stopped following the pop-punk scene closely in 2006.

well thats understandable because it stopped being even slightly enjoyable about that time.

[chipdip18]

Yeah, that was the main reason, and most of my favorite pop-punk bands had broken up by then.

[x togepi x]

try to name me one band in the fake pop-punk scene that started after 2005 and i could probably go on a rant and find several reasons why the graduate owns them hard.

the graduate is mediocre and not worth writing a giant rant about.

[SickOfStars]

seriously dude download their horror show EP immediately and then get onto their album anhedonia, you will not be disappointed. they have that synthy/dancey edge to them but its not forced in your face as much as it is with the other bands trying to be unique, and they do it better than anyone else. theres also a lotttt of atmosphere on the full-length. every single member of that band is insanely talented and innovative for the genre, like for serious corey is one of the best singers, tim's one of the better drummers, jared is like the most amazing pop-punk bassist, max's common use of delay in his guitar riffs is enthralling and a trademark of the band...

I'm not too keen on this band.

Glad they really seem to salt your slug though

[chipdip18]

Quit shining on his rain dance.

[theguy77]

Cute Is What We Aim For. Go!

hahahahahahahahahahha

corey's lyrics suck, they are the only unimpressive component of that band, and they still own shaant's. vocals-wise shant is very boring and typical, corey is more expressive than any band ive heard in the scene, and ive heard a lot. he gets pining emotional tones, cool/smooth tones, raspy/sassy tones, a great ambience in his falsetto "oohs" and likes to slide his notes which is something i myself have taken influence from. not to mention, though corey's voice is thin, it is mature on anhedonia and hasnt at all been whiney.

cute is what we aim for has no character whatsoever, unless you count their niche as a blend of almost all the bad sides to the genre they're in, and no good sides. the graduate has atmosphere, subtle synth usage, plenty of reverb as an effect, even more delay, and a singer who doesnt try to mask his midwest accent/word pronunciation in the southern california mold.

the musicianship is better in every category, period. ESPECIALLY in bass and vocals.

last but not least the graduate made no attempt to become a part of the scene they're ostracized in and are making efforts to escape it as well as expand their creativity in future music endeavors. i know this becusae i talk to corey and jared on AIM on occasion. the fact CIWWAF has made no such progression for their sophomore album proves the opposite for them.

theres my rant.

[chipdip18]

Well done sir. Well done. :appl:

[theguy77]

the graduate is mediocre and not worth writing a giant rant about.

you think nearly all pop-rock is mediocre if not terrible, and the fact you consider them one of the "mediocre" bands proves my point that they're far better than most of the other new bands.

[versus_god]

raspy/sassy tones
Hahahahaha

[SickOfStars]

what 'scene' is Moving Mountains in? Because I'm pretty sure they smoke The Graduate at using delay and other stuff.

I'm not trying to put down Randalicious listening to the Graduate or anything... just sayin'.

[theguy77]

Hahahahaha

what hahah he gets a little raspy on the highest notes especially on the horror show EP

[chipdip18]

what 'scene' is Moving Mountains in? Because I'm pretty sure they smoke The Graduate at using delay and other stuff.

I'm not trying to put down Randalicious listening to the Graduate or anything... just sayin'.


If this is referring to my "shine on his rain dance" statement, i just really wanted to use that expression.

[SickOfStars]

If this is referring to my "shine on his rain dance" statement, i just really wanted to use that expression.

Haha, I read ya ;-)

...just like I wanted to use 'salt your slug' instead of 'float your boat'


DOUBLE GUILTY!

[versus_god]

I enjoyed the combination of raspy/sassy.

[theguy77]

what 'scene' is Moving Mountains in? Because I'm pretty sure they smoke The Graduate at using delay and other stuff.

I'm not trying to put down Randalicious listening to the Graduate or anything... just sayin'.

haha im not trying to say the graduate are bringing something new to the table, max himself has told me he gets the inspiration for that from U2. but it does add a lot of character/atmosphere and give them a niche in the scene they're in. its so fucking sick live between songs when he keeps riffing on delay and seamlessly bridges two songs together.

[theguy77]

I enjoyed the combination of raspy/sassy.

haha i mean its not the kind of "raspy" you would hear in punk music. its a different kind. listen to "stay the same" and you'll know what i mean. "BUT YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE SOMETHING WOOOOORK, ITS A SHAME TO BE UNSUREEE, YOU CAN BET I'LL BREAK MY NEEEEEEEEEECK FOOOR YOUUU STIIIIILLLLL"

[IWasaCamera]

Really? I rather liked it. Granted, it wasn't as good as Animal Years but it was still good imo
So ridiculously weak compared to The Animal Years. Haven't listened more than once or twice this year.

[chipdip18]

Haha, I read ya ;-)

...just like I wanted to use 'salt your slug' instead of 'float your boat'


DOUBLE GUILTY!

Man we are cool.

I enjoyed the combination of raspy/sassy.

Haha someday i'll sing raspy/sassy and woo the clothes off a woman.

[SickOfStars]

haha im not trying to say the graduate are bringing something new to the table, max himself has told me he gets the inspiration for that from U2. but it does add a lot of character/atmosphere and give them a niche in the scene they're in. its so fucking sick live between songs when he keeps riffing on delay and seamlessly bridges two songs together.

That is a neat trick. TREOS did that too and it made for a pretty cool set (yup, I listen to TREOS, shoot me, elitists).

Listen to Moving Mountains anyway, because it's poppy-indie-ish/straddling the line between indie and pop-rock.... plus lots of delay and instrumental stuff. Their only album, Pneuma, is a neat listen.

[theguy77]

That is a neat trick. TREOS did that too and it made for a pretty cool set (yup, I listen to TREOS, shoot me, elitists).

Listen to Moving Mountains anyway, because it's poppy-indie-ish/straddling the line between indie and pop-rock.... plus lots of delay and instrumental stuff. Their only album, Pneuma, is a neat listen.

will fucking do that sounds right up my alley

[SickOfStars]

will fucking do that sounds right up my alley

okay, just don't be fooled by the first track. the only vocals on that are screaming.

[chipdip18]

I'm listening to Moving Mountains now, then Graduate, then back to Kay Kay and His Weathered Underground

[theguy77]

i have a confession to make the graduate inspired me to put delay in my own music, 4 songs on the upcoming album actually. my band is definitely guilty of jumping on that trend but luckily its not as widespread a trend as something like synths.

[theguy77]

okay, just don't be fooled by the first track. the only vocals on that are screaming.

hopefully the screams sound genuine and not scene or else im gonna say SKIP

[chipdip18]

Delay is okay. (Rhyme!) I never was a huge fan.

[x togepi x]

you think nearly all pop-rock is mediocre if not terrible, and the fact you consider them one of the "mediocre" bands proves my point that they're far better than most of the other new bands.

i was being nice. i actually think the graduate are completely terrible.

[theguy77]

i was being nice. i actually think the graduate are completely terrible.

well if you read my long post in the previous page i explain what makes them so much better than CIWWAF and the smae rhetoric can be applied to any fake "pop-punk" band whose debut came 2006 or later

[x togepi x]

well if you read my long post in the previous page i explain what makes them so much better than CIWWAF and the smae rhetoric can be applied to any fake "pop-punk" band whose debut came 2006 or later

OMG THEY USE DELAY AND SYNTH NO WAY

like i haven't heard this a million times before.

[Chris Fallon]

Millencolin was probably the last real disappointment I can remember. I'm far too accepting of most bands' I like work though.

[theguy77]

OMG THEY USE DELAY AND SYNTH NO WAY

like i haven't heard this a million times before.

thats only a small part of my argument and even then they use those things more efficiently and less pretentious...ly than the next band who does. it becomes an integral part of the atmosphere and the band's character as opposed to like, assuming a lead role so the band can be all "woo look how unique we are"

[x togepi x]

thats only a small part of my argument and even then they use those things more efficiently and less pretentious...ly than the next band who does. it becomes an integral part of the atmosphere and the band's character as opposed to like, assuming a lead role so the band can be all "woo look how unique we are"

oh yeah you also brought up lyrics, which their lyrics are mediocre and basically the same as every other band like them.

[theguy77]

oh yeah you also brought up lyrics, which their lyrics are mediocre and basically the same as every other band like them.

which is exactly what i said haha, i actually think the lyrics suck and that they almost seem like a half-ass job from corey. but at least corey isnt trying to be clever and failing miserably like shaant.

[chipdip18]

I like both bands, but i like Kay Kay and His Weathered Underground more.

[theguy77]

which the grad songs did you listen to

[chipdip18]

Songs on their myspace. I'm not done with all of them yet.

[SickOfStars]

hopefully the screams sound genuine and not scene or else im gonna say SKIP

dude, did you forget who you are talking to???

[Sunday Radio]

DCFC - Plans

or

Incubus - Morning View

edit:
these albums weren't bad by any means, it's just that I know the bands could have done much better

[Circa1628]

wow Morning View, I did not see that one coming

[SLoT]

I'm not saying I'm a huge fan of these bands, I'm saying these were albums I was expecting to be way better than they are to me.

CIWWAFs debut. Then again I'm sure everyone agrees.
Punchline - 37 Everywhere (really didn't dig this at all)
+44 (fell flat in the middle of the first track for me. the hi-hats in the chorus of the single is the best part of the entire cd for me)
Say Anything - IDOTG (wow)
Motion City Soundtrack - Even If It Kills Me (boring compared to CTTM)
Millencolin - Kingwood

[Paulb-182]

oasis - dont believe the truth

best song is the opener, after that goes well downhill

[MADSTA]

Even If It Kills Me.
I love I am the Movie and Commit This To Memory, but there are only three songs that I found memorable at all on this one.

[MusicBox24]

DCFC- Narrow Stairs

Not bad, but they are capable of a lot more. I can't get into it at all, beyond Grapevine Fires and Bixby Canyon Bridge.

[teenagetwilight]

New Pennywise, Millencolin, The Fratellis, and Thrice (Fire & Water >>>>> Air & Earth).

Also, might I add that Light Grenades is way ahead of Morning View and A Crow Left Of The Murder...?

[thespearkid]

Panic's last one and the Fratellis last one both disappointed me.

[mattmatumbo]

Usually, every album disappoints me until i've listened to it like 4 or 5 times. But one that i still hate is Manipulator except for the dark trail.

[SLoT]

New Pennywise, Millencolin, The Fratellis, and Thrice (Fire & Water >>>>> Air & Earth).

Also, might I add that Light Grenades is way ahead of Morning View and A Crow Left Of The Murder...?
Whoa...

[Battle Hymns]

In Defense of the Genre
Say Hello To Sunshine
Lover, the Lord Has Left Us
Skip School, Start Fights

[Praetor]

TSOAF - Lover, the Lord Has Left Us (what a jarbled, thrown together piece of shit overrated album this was)How was it overrated? Practically nobody liked it. Don't be an idiot.


Every Time I Die - The Big DirtyWhoa, whoa, whoa. I loved The Big Dirty. What didn't you like about it?

taking back sunday - louder nowSurprised it took this long, there is absolutely nothing good about this album. One of the top ten worst I've ever heard.

okay, just don't be fooled by the first track. the only vocals on that are screaming.There's some singing.

"We are so far away from here...we are, we are"

Speaking of Moving Mountains, I predict that Foreward will be a huge disappointment. I heard a studio clip from one of their youtube videos and it was bad. Didn't even sound like them.

[thespearkid]

Was I the only one who wasn't disappointed by In Defense?

[KatieKutthroat.]

Good album.

I thought it was pretty good at first, but after a while I realized it was a big disappointment compared to their previous work. :shrug:

[theguy77]

Surprised it took this long, there is absolutely nothing good about this album. One of the top ten worst I've ever heard.

haha i wouldnt say worst because its not like the music is repulsive its just incredibly dull and boring, there really is nothing good about that album.

[theguy77]

dude, did you forget who you are talking to???

hahaha i guess i did

[theguy77]

Was I the only one who wasn't disappointed by In Defense?

i wasnt at first because i looked at it in a completely different light than IARB, but it got old to me real fast and when it came down to it, its becuase the music was seriously lacking substance.

[thespearkid]

i wasnt at first because i looked at it in a completely different light than IARB, but it got old to me real fast and when it came down to it, its becuase the music was seriously lacking substance.
I don't think it's as good as IARB but it's got quite a few excellent pop rock songs. I think Shiksa is possibly the best "fun" song Max has ever written.

Also, your avatar is making me hungry. Oreos are addictive, I'm convinced.

[ThisIsNotDan]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I loved The Big Dirty. What didn't you like about it?

well personally it sounded like Gutter Phenomenon b-sides. songs like "Pigs Is Pigs", "INRIhab", and "Imitation..." are some of my favorite ETID tracks, but I'd just rather put on Hot Damn! or Gutter Phenomenon

[ThisIsNotDan]

Was I the only one who wasn't disappointed by In Defense?

no, I thought it was very divisive amongst fans here, right?

Surprised it took this long, there is absolutely nothing good about this album. One of the top ten worst I've ever heard.

oy John, I feel happy for you. if Louder Now is one of the worst you've ever heard, your ears have been spared by the gods

Also, might I add that Light Grenades is way ahead of Morning View and A Crow Left Of The Murder...?

woah woah woah. I love Light Grenades, but Morning View (I think) is their pinnacle

[ThisIsNotDan]

i wasnt at first because i looked at it in a completely different light than IARB, but it got old to me real fast and when it came down to it, its becuase the music was seriously lacking substance.

essentially, yes

[bowl of oranges]

Was I the only one who wasn't disappointed by In Defense?Nope. I like it.

[cscwell107]

I'm not saying I'm a huge fan of these bands, I'm saying these were albums I was expecting to be way better than they are to me.

CIWWAFs debut. Then again I'm sure everyone agrees.
Punchline - 37 Everywhere (really didn't dig this at all)
+44 (fell flat in the middle of the first track for me. the hi-hats in the chorus of the single is the best part of the entire cd for me)
Say Anything - IDOTG (wow)
Motion City Soundtrack - Even If It Kills Me (boring compared to CTTM)
Millencolin - Kingwood

You are sooo wrong. First off i don't know why there is so much hate for even if kills me. As I said before that was a great record. Then you have 37 everywhere which i thought was punchlines best record. And then In defense of the genre????? That album is amazing. You are very wrong my friend.

[on a frequency]

I'm not saying I'm a huge fan of these bands, I'm saying these were albums I was expecting to be way better than they are to me.

CIWWAFs debut. Then again I'm sure everyone agrees.
Punchline - 37 Everywhere (really didn't dig this at all)
+44 (fell flat in the middle of the first track for me. the hi-hats in the chorus of the single is the best part of the entire cd for me)
Say Anything - IDOTG (wow)
Motion City Soundtrack - Even If It Kills Me (boring compared to CTTM)
Millencolin - Kingwood

even if it kills me? really? i liked it. i thought it was a good blend of catchy songs and deeper ones. 'last night' is especially good. i could do without 'antonia' i think though.

[cscwell107]

Panic's last one and the Fratellis last one both disappointed me.

Yea panic's last one disappointed me too

[bowl of oranges]

Against Me!- New Wave
The Arcade Fire- Neon Bible
Interpol- Antics, Our Love To Admire
Modest Mouse- We Were Dead...
My Morning Jacket- Evil Urges
The White Stripes- Icky Thump

[wewascontenders]

Against Me!- New Wave


This right here.

[thespearkid]

Against Me!- New Wave
The Arcade Fire- Neon Bible
Interpol- Antics, Our Love To Admire
Modest Mouse- We Were Dead...
My Morning Jacket- Evil Urges
The White Stripes- Icky Thump
I agree with all those except Icky Thump. I didn't know people were allowed to not like that album.

[zackisonfire]

AFI - Decemberunderground
Say Anything - In Defense of the Genre
Circa Survive - On Letting Go



First one is right.
On letting go, it wasn't as good, but cmon. It was still great.

[RiNZ]

New Found Glory - Coming Home
Angels And Airwaves - We Don't Need to Whisper
CIWWAF's debut. And it's not -bad- persay, but it's not something I'm going to go "OH GOD LET'S LISTEN TO THIS ALBUM NAO PLZ."
Fall Out Boy's Infinity on High...

And I don't get the Even if It Kills Me hate. I thoroughly enjoyed the album :D

[wewascontenders]

And I don't get the Even if It Kills Me hate. I thoroughly enjoyed the album :D

That's because you just said the CIWWAF album wasn't bad.

[Praetor]

no, I thought it was very divisive amongst fans here, right?



oy John, I feel happy for you. if Louder Now is one of the worst you've ever heard, your ears have been spared by the gods



woah woah woah. I love Light Grenades, but Morning View (I think) is their pinnacle
haha. I just hate it so much, maybe I did overreact a little but it's just a disgusting album. I really can't think of anything that album does right.
well personally it sounded like Gutter Phenomenon b-sides. songs like "Pigs Is Pigs", "INRIhab", and "Imitation..." are some of my favorite ETID tracks, but I'd just rather put on Hot Damn! or Gutter Phenomenon
Yeah, they really didn't progress much, but I guess my stance is that it's not a bad thing when you pull it off so well. Almost as good as Gutter Phenomenon, imo.

[RiNZ]

That's because you just said the CIWWAF album wasn't bad.
I really don't think it was as terrible as people say. I think some of the songs are still kinda catchy though.

I do think the guy needs to lay off using "gent" and find some lyrical expansion.

[ThisIsNotDan]

First one is right.
On letting go, it wasn't as good, but cmon. It was still great.

"Living Together" is Circa's best song, but other than that it was basically Juturna B-Sides imo

You are sooo wrong. First off i don't know why there is so much hate for even if kills me. As I said before that was a great record. Then you have 37 everywhere which i thought was punchlines best record. And then In defense of the genre????? That album is amazing. You are very wrong my friend.

do you know what opinions are? they're great man, you should read up on those

[SLoT]

You are sooo wrong. First off i don't know why there is so much hate for even if kills me. As I said before that was a great record. Then you have 37 everywhere which i thought was punchlines best record. And then In defense of the genre????? That album is amazing. You are very wrong my friend.
haha. sorry to upset you. even if it kills me is completely bland in comparison to CTTM. 37 everywhere was really mediocre for me. and IDOTG is just plain too long and not necessary to have as a double cd.
even if it kills me? really? i liked it. i thought it was a good blend of catchy songs and deeper ones. 'last night' is especially good. i could do without 'antonia' i think though.
Yeah, like i said above its just not up to par with CTTM. Antonia is my favorite song on that cd which i find funny.

[wewascontenders]

I really don't think it was as terrible as people say. I think some of the songs are still kinda catchy though.

I do think the guy needs to lay off using "gent" and find some lyrical expansion.

:ok:

[ThisIsNotDan]

haha. I just hate it so much, maybe I did overreact a little but it's just a disgusting album. I really can't think of anything that album does right.

Yeah, they really didn't progress much, but I guess my stance is that it's not a bad thing when you pull it off so well. Almost as good as Gutter Phenomenon, imo.

1.) personally, I think I like it more than TAYF. I guess with bands I like, I tend to most enjoy the album I first heard by them.

2.) and true, in no way is it a bad album, just slightly disappointing :shrug:

[zackisonfire]

"Living Together" is Circa's best song, but other than that it was basically Juturna B-Sides imo


I can respect that.
I love The Greatest Lie, All Your Friends are Gone, and Kicking your crosses down.

And to whoever defended it..
IDOTG is decent, but nowhere near Is a real boy.

[Dagless]

Was I the only one who wasn't disappointed by In Defense?

Nope, I really like it. I mean it doesn't compare to IARB but I find it to be a very enjoyable record.

[RiNZ]

Oh, another one for the list...

Less Than Jake's In With the Out Crowd.

It's not bad, again, but...just not as good as Hello Rockview

[cscwell107]

I agree with all those except Icky Thump. I didn't know people were allowed to not like that album.

I didnt really like Icky Thump either. Conquest is a terrible song.

[SLoT]

Oh, another one for the list...

Less Than Jake's In With the Out Crowd.

It's not bad, again, but...just not as good as Hello Rockview
Hello Rockview was the shit when I was younger and listened to LTJ. props.

[thespearkid]

I can respect that.
I love The Greatest Lie, All Your Friends are Gone, and Kicking your crosses down.

And to whoever defended it..
IDOTG is decent, but nowhere near Is a real boy.
This is true.

I didnt really like Icky Thump either. Conquest is a terrible song.
I loved it top to bottom with the exception of St. Andrew.

[RiNZ]

Hello Rockview was the shit when I was younger and listened to LTJ. props.
I haven't heard anything off the new album, but I've heard it's supposed to live up to LTJ's old sound.

Do you know anything about that?

[SLoT]

I haven't heard anything off the new album, but I've heard it's supposed to live up to LTJ's old sound.

Do you know anything about that?
Sorry man, I stopped listening to them when Anthem came out.

[cscwell107]

haha. sorry to upset you. even if it kills me is completely bland in comparison to CTTM. 37 everywhere was really mediocre for me. and IDOTG is just plain too long and not necessary to have as a double cd.

Yeah, like i said above its just not up to par with CTTM. Antonia is my favorite song on that cd which i find funny.

I didnt mean to say you were wrong. You are entitled to your opinion. I apologize. That is just what I think.

[RiNZ]

Sorry man, I stopped listening to them when Anthem came out.
Oh snap! lol

[BSS182]

Oh, another one for the list...

Less Than Jake's In With the Out Crowd.

It's not bad, again, but...just not as good as Hello Rockview
but i think they defiantly made up for it with GNV FLA!! don't ya think?

[RiNZ]

but i think they defiantly made up for it with GNV FLA!! don't ya think?
Haven't heard it yet, just good things about it.

[Tyler Revolution]

Hey everyone what is it for you? Mine would have to be Cartel's self titled album. It's jsut horrible Chroma had some decent tracks, but the new one, talk about sophomore slump

How is this your biggest disappointment? If Chroma only had some "decent tracks" then why would you have high standards for their next effort?

[FeynmanWannabe]

Damien Rice - 9
Fucking awful.

[BSS182]

Haven't heard it yet, just good things about it.
yep i quite enjoy it lol it kicks the living shit out of in with the out crowd lol

[SLoT]

I didnt mean to say you were wrong. You are entitled to your opinion. I apologize. That is just what I think.
It's all good. If you dig IDOTG, EIIKM, and 37 Everywhere all that means is you get to enjoy 3 cds I don't.
Oh snap! lol
Yeah, maybe I should check this one out, I think I remember reading somewhere it had more horns again, not sure though.

[RiNZ]

yep i quite enjoy it lol it kicks the living shit out of in with the out crowd lol
Hah, I just checked their myspace for tracks. I like what I've heard so far!

[Tyler Revolution]

i guess you don't really listen to much indie pop.

Haha, exactly what I was thinking.

[cscwell107]

3OH3- Want

I wasnt expecting much anyway but i did kinda enjoy chokechain. This was just a terrible album though

[on a frequency]

Yeah, like i said above its just not up to par with CTTM. Antonia is my favorite song on that cd which i find funny.

fair enough. i did like cttm better.

[kearn1tm]

Arcade Fire -- Neon Bible
The Raputre -- Pieces of the People We Love
Kaki King -- ...Until We Felt Red
Liz Phair -- Whip Smart

Now, I love all four of these albums tremendously, but each of these LPs were significant steps down in quality from their predecessors (Funeral, Echoes, Legs To Make Us Longer and Exile in Guyville).

[mattmatumbo]

Misery Signals- Mirrors. Controller is so so so much better.

[wewascontenders]

controller came after mirrors.

[Circa1628]

Damien Rice - 9
Fucking awful.


thats what I have heard

[Gwytherspoon]

AFI - Decemberunderground
Foo Fighters - One By One
Say Anything - In Defense of the Genre
The Chemical Brothers - We Are The Night
Circa Survive - On Letting Go
Envy On The Coast - Lucy Gray
Every Time I Die - The Big Dirty
Metallica - St. Anger
Nine Inch Nails - With Teeth

crap follow-ups to excellent albums. NIN and Say Anything were the worst for me


The Big Dirty was fuckin awesome!
I agree with foo fighters one though... One by One is pretty much utter shit.

[Praetor]

Misery Signals- Mirrors. Controller is so so so much better.
1. Mirrors came before Controller chronologically.
2. I have no idea how anyone could ever say that Controller was better than Mirrors.
3. Of Malice & The Magnum Heart > Mirrors >>>>>>>>> Controller

[timbedinosaur]

White Stripes-Icky Thump

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

Alkaline Trio- Crimson
The Sound of Animals Fighting- Lover, the Lord Has Left Us

[kearn1tm]

White Stripes-Icky Thump

Coincidentally, it also happens to be their best album.

[Chris Fallon]

It's all good. If you dig IDOTG, EIIKM, and 37 Everywhere all that means is you get to enjoy 3 cds I don't.

Yeah, maybe I should check this one out, I think I remember reading somewhere it had more horns again, not sure though.
You should. You'll like it. Trust me.

[rorschach]

In Rainbows

I'm very much alone in this opinion though.

[SLoT]

You should. You'll like it. Trust me.

Right on, thanks Chris.

[_jonas]

The new Academy Is... sadly.

[timbedinosaur]

Coincidentally, it also happens to be their best album.
i have a feeling this is going to be one of those albums everybody looks back and starts saying wow, that actually was a great record. Just like Ramones and the End Of The Century.

[sandra92]

Linkin Park - Minutes to Midnight
Alicia Keys - As I am

[Kid B]

Icky Thump
Narrow Stairs
The Red Album
Sky, Blue Sky

The new Academy Is... sadly.
Yup. Bummer. I have been looking forward to it for a long time.

[_jonas]

Icky Thump
Narrow Stairs
The Red Album
Sky, Blue Sky


Yup. Bummer. I have been looking forward to it for a long time.
i smell a tit...

[francescaa]

Santi. It has since grown on me a little and I have accepted that they will never match Almost Here but damn that was a letdown. I was expecting so much more.

[Kid B]

;-)

[Kid B]

Santi. It has since grown on me a little and I have accepted that they will never match Almost Here but damn that was a letdown. I was expecting so much more.
I loved Santi. Don't get the hate.

[travisjeffery]

TSOAF - Lover, the Lord Has Left Us (what a jarbled, thrown together piece of shit overrated album this was)

Emery - I'm Only A Man (while not a huge Emery fan, I still somewhat liked their first two albums, and didn't see this bomb coming at all)


Bright Eyes - Cassadaga.

I loved every other cd, but this one was a let-down.

i don't even have to think for myself, it's all already been said for me.

oh, and Tha Carter III by Lil Wayne
shoot me, I love Lil Wayne. But he sold out pretty big.

[Kid B]

Lil Wayne has always sucked.

[travisjeffery]

Lil Wayne has always sucked.

exactly why i hesitated posting that.
i knew some ignorant kid would say something.

[_jonas]

now this is a true Weezy fan...

MGNS-9a9O9w

[Kid B]

exactly why i hesitated posting that.
i knew some ignorant kid would say something.
How am I ignorant? For stating an opinion? Hmmm. It seems that you are ignorant of the definition of ignorant (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ignorant). The Carter III sounds the same as Lil Wayne's past discography. Overproduced, badly written, ignorant (http://absolutepunk.net/%5Bquote=travisjeffery;15478731%5De xactly%20why%20i%20hesitated%20post ing%20that.) of talent. Seriously. It's just songs about having sex. If you are looking for a more talented artist in this department, I'd recommend Marvin Gaye.

[zaron5551]

Yellowcard - Lights and Sounds.
My hopes were way up for this record, considering how much I loved the rest of their catalog. And to this day I can't get into the record. I just feel nothing when I listen to it.

Very glad that Paper Walls is a much more solid release.

really? I guess I may be the only person that likes Lights and Sounds. Old Yellowcard is completely different and Ocean Avenue to poppy (loved it when it first came out though) and Papers Walls solid, but i like lights and sounds

[makeasound]

really? I guess I may be the only person that likes Lights and Sounds. Old Yellowcard is completely different and Ocean Avenue to poppy (loved it when it first came out though) and Papers Walls solid, but i like lights and sounds
I like some the music to Lights And Sounds, I'd actually love to get my hands on instrumental versions of a couple songs.

The overall album felt dead or flat for me, it didn't feel to me like Ryan was putting any heart or emotion into his words and vocals, and that killed the few songs I somewhat liked. The rest of the album was just garbage to me, somewhat overblown and rushed.

I still go back to it somewhat regularly to give it another try because I do love the band, but I have the same feelings every time.

Paper Walls is my favorite of my records, honestly.

[travisjeffery]

How am I ignorant? For stating an opinion? Hmmm. It seems that you are ignorant of the definition of ignorant (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ignorant). The Carter III sounds the same as Lil Wayne's past discography. Overproduced, badly written, ignorant (http://absolutepunk.net/%5Bquote=travisjeffery;15478731%5De xactly%20why%20i%20hesitated%20post ing%20that.) of talent. Seriously. It's just songs about having sex. If you are looking for a more talented artist in this department, I'd recommend Marvin Gaye.

I'm assuming that you never sat down and listened to any of Lil Wayne's songs that aren't thrown all over MTV and the radio. Tha Carter III doesn't sound anything like any of his other albums or mixtapes. And besides that wretched "Lollipop" song, and maybe a few others, the songs aren't about having sex; along with most of his from other albums. Listen to his lyrics, and metaphors on any of his other albums, I doubt you would have the "talent" to write anything like it.

But I'm not gonna sit here and argue about Lil Wayne, that's a joke. so I'm done. You have your opinion, I have mine.

[cereal4life]

How about Radiohead Kid A? Let me down. While it's a grower, I still prefer Ok Computer.

[tfar06]

Nas' past 3 albums have been major disappointments. Especially with the over-hype of his last album. It's an okay album, but Nas is one of the Top 5 greatest MC's, everything he drops should be unique and definitely hot. But it seems that his production team/lyrical content have gone more to the mainstream he was dissing in "Hip Hop is Dead". If Jay-Z can drop a great album every couple of years, Nas should drop one every week.
nas is past his prime. he doesnt know how to pick beats, illmatic is perfect cause large professor i think produced it all, but yeah, he cant pick beats and his new shit just sounds dumb. illmatic, lost tapes, stillmatic and it was written oh and gods son r good as fuck. streets disciple, hhid, untitled, i am and nastradamus all garbage for the most part.

[tfar06]

How am I ignorant? For stating an opinion? Hmmm. It seems that you are ignorant of the definition of ignorant (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ignorant). The Carter III sounds the same as Lil Wayne's past discography. Overproduced, badly written, ignorant (http://absolutepunk.net/%5Bquote=travisjeffery;15478731%5De xactly%20why%20i%20hesitated%20post ing%20that.) of talent. Seriously. It's just songs about having sex. If you are looking for a more talented artist in this department, I'd recommend Marvin Gaye.

your a fucking idiot. learn about shit before you speak on it.

[3mpire]

JEW - Chase This Light

Although it did have a few alright tracks on it, it's a huge letdown compared to Futures.

[Paulb-182]

How about Radiohead Kid A? Let me down. While it's a grower, I still prefer Ok Computer.

i just dont get ok computer

i think the bends is a great album

but ok computer just doesnt have anything spectacular about it at all

[_jonas]

ok computer is a little too long but still solid

[Circa1628]

Airbag and Subterranean Homesick Alien are great songs off of OK Computer

[mattmatumbo]

1. Mirrors came before Controller chronologically.
2. I have no idea how anyone could ever say that Controller was better than Mirrors.
3. Of Malice & The Magnum Heart > Mirrors >>>>>>>>> Controller

yeah im aware that mirrors was released before, irrelevant regardless. of malice is their best release, mirrors blew balls and controller is 9x better than mirrors regardless of when it came out.

[Praetor]

Yes, but this is about disappointments...if you thought Controller was better than Mirrors then you couldn't have been disappointed by it. Can you not read?

[mattmatumbo]

Yes, but this is about disappointments...if you thought Controller was better than Mirrors then you couldn't have been disappointed by it. Can you not read?

yeah i can, i stated that mirrors was a dissapointment, because from my point of view its one of the worst metal albums. I said its good that they took it (controller) in a better direction.

[SickOfStars]

I am severely disappointed by every album that has come out since everyone started having heath ledger joker avatars.

[timbedinosaur]

I am severely disappointed by every album that has come out since everyone started having heath ledger joker avatars.
aw. why so serious?

[SickOfStars]

aw. why so serious?

I will fuck your eyes out

[ska4life07]

I am severely disappointed by every album that has come out since everyone started having heath ledger joker avatars.

This guy is funny! But I tottally agree. I was going to say, basically, the same thing.

[ska4life07]

"wanna know how I got these scarrrs-a!"

[timbedinosaur]

I will fuck your eyes out
oh kinky;-)

[Circa1628]

aw. why so serious?


haha yes

[Kid B]

your a fucking idiot. learn about shit before you speak on it.
;-)

[Kid B]

How about Radiohead Kid A? Let me down. While it's a grower, I still prefer Ok Computer.
That bums me out that you couldn't get into Kid A. My favorite album of all time.

[francisRUINER]

i enjoy controller actually

[airik625]

White Stripes-Icky Thump

I think Get Behind Me Satan was more disappointing. I somewhat enjoyed Icky Thump.

[TheOtherAndrew]

I am severely disappointed by every album that has come out since everyone started having heath ledger joker avatars.
aw. why so serious?
hahahahahaha

[Genuma]

C I V I L W A R

[imahoodlum]

Sky Blue Sky.
this. what a let down from wilco.

[AntsInMyPants92]

Socratic-Spread The Rumors

[timbedinosaur]

I think Get Behind Me Satan was more disappointing. I somewhat enjoyed Icky Thump.
Eh, Icky Thump was the best track, and when the best track on a White Stripes CD is the single, you've got a problem.

[mattmatumbo]

i enjoy controller actually

yeah me too, i said mirrors was a disappointment

[airik625]

Eh, Icky Thump was the best track, and when the best track on a White Stripes CD is the single, you've got a problem.

I thought Conquest was a better song.

[timbedinosaur]

I thought Conquest was a better song.
I like rag and bone for the fact it made me laugh

[youngmountain]

i just dont get ok computer

i think the bends is a great album

but ok computer just doesnt have anything spectacular about it at all
really? wow, i think the word spectacular defines that album.

[HangsLikeHeaven]

I can't believe people said Sky Blue Sky was a let down.

[IWasaCamera]

I'd understand A Ghost Is Born being in this thread but Sky Blue Sky was only a mild disappointment.

[Kid B]

Sky Blue Sky.

Sky Blue Sky is excellent one of their best so far, but they wont ever top Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

Mwahaha

[Kid B]

Also, OK Computer is boring. Well, most of it anyway. No Suprises and Let Down destroy.

[IWasaCamera]

In rainbows > OK > Kid A > HTTT > the bends > amnesiac > pablo honey
in rainbows > kid a > the bends > amnesiac > ok > the bends > pablo honey
These posts are a month apart. Funny how Ben is always called out when his opinion changes.

[Kid B]

1 month and 9 days.* And at the time of those two posts the only album that I thoroughly enjoyed was In Rainbows. Over the 6 months after that, all the albums, not including OK, grew on me quite a bit. Also, I don't know how I winded u with two The Bends'.

First Ben says S,BS is excellent, one of Wilco's best, and then he lists it as his biggest album disappointment. This is a much more drastic change of mind.

[IWasaCamera]

He's not calling the album terrible, simply a huge disappointment. In Rainbows is a good album but had it been released right after Kid A, I'd have been severely let down. See the distinction? Yet when Ben's current opinion contradicts a past one, everyone is so quick to jump all over it. I could do the same for countless regulars here including myself.