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The-Phantom
07/30/08, 09:48 AM
Who do you think holds a band together the most?
Singer?
Guitarist?
Drummer?
This is something I have wanted to get peoples opinion on.
I personally think that drummers are underrated.
They are usually the ones that get the least attention...
But they keep the beat.

While having a bad one of anything can break a band to bits, some things may be considered more important then others, aye?

So, my question is... Who do you think is most important in a band?

Angylion Gefell
07/30/08, 09:56 AM
Cowbell.

RiNZ
07/30/08, 10:01 AM
I think that singers and guitarists are most important, honestly.

Drummers and bassists usually only have the rythm, the beat. Which is all nice and well, but you can always get a drum machine.

Praetor
07/30/08, 10:01 AM
Who do you think holds a band together the most?
Singer?
Guitarist?
Drummer?
This is something I have wanted to get peoples opinion on.
I personally think that drummers are underrated.
They are usually the ones that get the least attention...
But they keep the beat.

While having a bad one of anything can break a band to bits, some things may be considered more important then others, aye?

So, my question is... Who do you think is most important in a band?
nowai

thespearkid
07/30/08, 10:04 AM
Interesting query. With the exception of the Who, I can't think of a single band who has an exceptional member on each instrument as well as an awesome vocalist (The Matches?). For me, the most important parts are drums and bass, I think. The White Stripes do just fine without a bassist though and they've got a shitty drummer too. I don't know.

nikaidoh
07/30/08, 10:10 AM
They are usually the ones that get the least attention...
But they keep the beat.




I don't think drummer's are important to the band because the keep a beat. I mean a musician on any instrument can keep a beat without percussion. I think they add more complexity and a roughness to the sound of the music which is part of what "makes" a song. Even if you have a shitty drummer (*ahem* Meg White *ahem*) it's still part of the sound that makes it come together the way it does.


Although I think the vocalist and the guitarist are the most important. If you have a shitty guitar player or singer it just brings the entire production crashing down.

mattmatumbo
07/30/08, 10:23 AM
i say drums, they can change the attitude of a song pretty easily but they are still complex as hell. IE. Hot Cross, DEP, Number 12 looks like you etc...

Judge'sDaughter
07/30/08, 10:33 AM
search function

thespearkid
07/30/08, 10:37 AM
search function
I thought the same thing but I didn't wanna be "that guy".

Judge'sDaughter
07/30/08, 10:39 AM
I thought the same thing but I didn't wanna be "that guy".
I know what you mean. Someone had to point it out, though- the kid who started this thread is new, he won't learn without people pointing it out.

wewascontenders
07/30/08, 10:44 AM
triangle

xEmlehx
07/30/08, 10:44 AM
i say drums

cscwell107
07/30/08, 10:45 AM
definitely the accordion player

Getup and Dance
07/30/08, 10:51 AM
The Roadie

x togepi x
07/30/08, 12:18 PM
I think that singers and guitarists are most important, honestly.

Drummers and bassists usually only have the rythm, the beat. Which is all nice and well, but you can always get a drum machine.

this is stupid. you can run samples of any instruments.

IWasaCamera
07/30/08, 01:25 PM
This thread sort of sucks.

Nevuk
07/30/08, 01:28 PM
Bass. Really, any instrument. If all of your band except for one instrument are good, doesn't matter. That'll still hold you back. Bass is just most prevalent right now for being root noted to death.

Nevuk
07/30/08, 01:30 PM
this is stupid. you can run samples of any instruments.
People seem less likely to use a guitar sampler than a drum machine though. I think its just harder to do so in a live setting, unless you have someone devoted exclusively to sampling.

AP_Punk
07/30/08, 01:35 PM
your mom!

SLoT
07/30/08, 01:49 PM
the music.

Getup and Dance
07/30/08, 01:52 PM
your mom!

No, Your mom!

mellzie14
07/30/08, 01:56 PM
Vocalist, because they are most likely to get the most attention. So if they suck, then the whole quality of your band goes down.

notoaststereo
07/30/08, 02:00 PM
search function.

Angylion Gefell
07/30/08, 02:31 PM
this is stupid. you can run samples of any instruments.

The inanity of that statemend astounds me.

Neo Cassady
07/30/08, 02:59 PM
Cowbell.

/thread

Carlo Marx
07/30/08, 03:00 PM
the most important aspect of any band is that the whole must be greater than the sum of its parts. otherwise, it's just some guys playing instruments with one stand out performer.

ForeverDelayed
07/30/08, 03:51 PM
the most important aspect of any band is that the whole must be greater than the sum of its parts. otherwise, it's just some guys playing instruments with one stand out performer.
This.


But if I had to pick, I'd say bass and vocals. Bands with shitty bassists generally make shitty music. And if I don't like a singer's voice, regardless of how "good" he or she might be, then I end up not listening to their music very often.

EchoPark
07/30/08, 04:09 PM
everyone knows the most important part of a band is the keyboard/synth player.

alltimecam
07/30/08, 08:35 PM
/thread
what does that mean i always see that
"/thread"

Neo Cassady
07/30/08, 08:40 PM
what does that mean i always see that
"/thread"

/ = end. (notice the "[/quote]" whenever you quote someone)

so /thread = end thread

meaning, essentially, that the quoted post was so good that nothing more needs to be said.

alltimecam
07/30/08, 08:45 PM
/ = end. (notice the ]" whenever you quote someone)

so /thread = end thread

meaning, essentially, that the quoted post was so good that nothing more needs to be said.
got it
thanks

thespearkid
07/30/08, 08:55 PM
/ = end. (notice the "" whenever you quote someone)

so /thread = end thread

meaning, essentially, that the quoted post was so good that nothing more needs to be said.[/quote]
I have to do it.

/thread

Circacept
07/30/08, 09:50 PM
harmonica all the way

x togepi x
07/30/08, 11:02 PM
The inanity of that statemend astounds me.

Oh really? Because i've seen it done. hell, my band would be doing it if i had enough money to get another small mixer.

for proof see: 65daysofstatic, tons of electronica bands.

chipdip18
07/30/08, 11:04 PM
Drums and Bass.

thesafeword
07/30/08, 11:05 PM
The 3 guitarists in Alesena are all vital and important.

Bob Payne
07/31/08, 12:30 AM
The 3 guitarists in Alesena are all vital and important.

And here I never thought I'd see Alesana in the same sentence as vital and important.

Bob Payne
07/31/08, 12:32 AM
The most important part is the songwriter. To promote any one instrument over another is futile, because its the unit that makes the band.

Chris Fallon
07/31/08, 12:46 AM
Talent?

tfar06
07/31/08, 01:22 AM
songwritting.

thesafeword
07/31/08, 01:34 AM
And here I never thought I'd see Alesana in the same sentence as vital and important.
Oh yeah, why have 1 shitty guitarist when you can have 3?

aguywithaguitar
07/31/08, 03:30 AM
songwriter

TeachBirds2Fly
07/31/08, 03:34 AM
It is ALL in the band name.

Regards
07/31/08, 04:03 AM
The Lawyer.

lew_1987
07/31/08, 04:07 AM
Question can't be answered universally.

makeasound
07/31/08, 06:03 AM
The most important part is the songwriter. To promote any one instrument over another is futile, because its the unit that makes the band.
This.

guitarpickheart
07/31/08, 04:46 PM
I have to agree and say the singer or songwriter. I've heard bands where I go OH I LOVE THE INTRO and then the singer sings and I hate the singer. The vocals are the part of the music that's heard above everything else, so the vocalist has to be good or at least have a unique voice. And if you haven't turned off the song because of the instrumentals or vocals, the songwriter is who holds your attention. Although a terrible songwriter is just as likely to hold your attention as a good one, haha.

EchoPark
07/31/08, 06:34 PM
And here I never thought I'd see Alesana in the same sentence as vital and important.


:appl:

IAmAmazing
07/31/08, 08:20 PM
I don't think drummer's are important to the band because the keep a beat. I mean a musician on any instrument can keep a beat without percussion. I think they add more complexity and a roughness to the sound of the music which is part of what "makes" a song. Even if you have a shitty drummer (*ahem* Meg White *ahem*) it's still part of the sound that makes it come together the way it does.


Although I think the vocalist and the guitarist are the most important. If you have a shitty guitar player or singer it just brings the entire production crashing down.

Hahahahahahaha, Guitarists follow rhythm = made by bassist + drummer. Time signatures anybody?

Klatzke
07/31/08, 09:16 PM
I'm gonna have to go with Vocals really.

ForeverDelayed
07/31/08, 10:26 PM
I have to agree and say the singer or songwriter. I've heard bands where I go OH I LOVE THE INTRO and then the singer sings and I hate the singer. The vocals are the part of the music that's heard above everything else, so the vocalist has to be good or at least have a unique voice. And if you haven't turned off the song because of the instrumentals or vocals, the songwriter is who holds your attention. Although a terrible songwriter is just as likely to hold your attention as a good one, haha.
I wouldn't say a vocalist has to be good or unique - really you just have to like their voice. There's tons of technically good singers that I don't like, and some of my favorites are in all honesty pretty horrible singers. But if I like their voice, I like their music, and vice versa.

And yeah a terrible songwriter can hold your attention, but not in a good way :-p

Jumpoff
07/31/08, 10:42 PM
The makeup. Obvz.

aguywithaguitar
07/31/08, 11:10 PM
I wouldn't say a vocalist has to be good or unique - really you just have to like their voice. There's tons of technically good singers that I don't like, and some of my favorites are in all honesty pretty horrible singers. But if I like their voice, I like their music, and vice versa.

And yeah a terrible songwriter can hold your attention, but not in a good way :-p
If you had the best guitarist, bassist, drummers, and vocalist collaborate on a poorly written song, it would still sound like shit. Which would explain why a good band can make a horrible album. So yea, I think the songwriter(s) is most important.

Hahahahahahaha, Guitarists follow rhythm = made by bassist + drummer. Time signatures anybody?
Well rhythm is 50% of what music is, the other being melody. So yea, every instrument has to follow the rhythm, which isnt technically made by the bass and drums. The bass and drums have too follow the rhythm to. If a song is 160bpm, everyone has to follow that. If any one instrument cant keep within the rhythm, its not going to sound right.

ForeverDelayed
07/31/08, 11:22 PM
If you had the best guitarist, bassist, drummers, and vocalist collaborate on a poorly written song, it would still sound like shit. Which would explain why a good band can make a horrible album. So yea, I think the songwriter(s) is most important.

I never said otherwise. I was quoting a guy who said a terrible songwriter can hold your attention as long as a good one. I was just saying that he would be holding it for the wrong reasons - ie. the song sucks so bad that you keep listening to see how much worse it can get. The songwriting is definitely important, I think most people here agree on that.

slenygoodbi
07/31/08, 11:24 PM
cliche but guitars keep it real =]]

well honestly, how much music can you listen to with just an acoustic guitar playing and be happy ^.^

aguywithaguitar
07/31/08, 11:50 PM
I never said otherwise. I was quoting a guy who said a terrible songwriter can hold your attention as long as a good one. I was just saying that he would be holding it for the wrong reasons - ie. the song sucks so bad that you keep listening to see how much worse it can get. The songwriting is definitely important, I think most people here agree on that.
Oh I know, I was just branching off of what you said. Like a tree. haha

Ruki Katiakicz
08/01/08, 12:52 AM
To be honest to me, I think whoever is in the band is the most important part. By that, I mean everyone is equal. I think it's kind of unfair, for example, when you watch live videos of a band and you only see the singer... it's cool and all to watch them swing a mic around and go batshit crazy, but it's not just Singer and the Bandettes, you know, the whole band should be just as important as the singer and the guitarist who unfortunately always get the most attention.

jus IMO

versus_god
08/01/08, 12:56 AM
Watch more Ergs! videos.

;-)

xBITCHxPLEASEx
08/01/08, 07:11 AM
The most important part is the songwriter. To promote any one instrument over another is futile, because its the unit that makes the band.

/thread

Jesse!
08/01/08, 09:15 AM
The answer you are all looking for lies here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evcoh7ZeiiI

handlikesecret
08/01/08, 09:26 AM
the interpretive dancers.

guitarpickheart
08/01/08, 10:43 AM
I wouldn't say a vocalist has to be good or unique - really you just have to like their voice. There's tons of technically good singers that I don't like, and some of my favorites are in all honesty pretty horrible singers. But if I like their voice, I like their music, and vice versa.

And yeah a terrible songwriter can hold your attention, but not in a good way :-p

You can say that they don't have to be good or unique. But really, if the singer is awful , can't hit notes and sounds like a cat screeching, are you likely to listen to them? Probably not. And if the singer bores you because he/she sounds just like 15 other singers you've heard? There's probably even less of a chance.

chaosB4storm
08/01/08, 11:51 AM
Cowbell.

This is what I wanted to see.

chaosB4storm
08/01/08, 11:55 AM
Vocalist is the most important. By saying that, I mean that if you have a good vocalist, he is the one that is most important to hang on to.

Creativity aside, a good vocalist is the only section of the band that everyone doesn't have the ability to be. Anyone can learn to play guitar, and anyone can learn drums. Not everyone can have a good voice that has potential to make it big.

Remember, creativity aside. Writing good lyrics and music is also very important, and not something everyone can learn to do.

Bob Payne
08/01/08, 02:35 PM
Vocalist is the most important. By saying that, I mean that if you have a good vocalist, he is the one that is most important to hang on to.

Creativity aside, a good vocalist is the only section of the band that everyone doesn't have the ability to be. Anyone can learn to play guitar, and anyone can learn drums. Not everyone can have a good voice that has potential to make it big.

Remember, creativity aside. Writing good lyrics and music is also very important, and not something everyone can learn to do.

many bands don't even have vocalists. what about them?

as cute as you
08/01/08, 07:52 PM
for bands with singers the songwriter

guitarpickheart
08/01/08, 07:58 PM
many bands don't even have vocalists. what about them?


If there's no vocalist, then every instrument would be equally important. The ones with smaller parts are holding up the ones with bigger parts.

Bob Payne
08/01/08, 08:07 PM
If there's no vocalist, then every instrument would be equally important. The ones with smaller parts are holding up the ones with bigger parts.

That's just ridiculous. I was being obtuse to prove a point, anyway.