Hip-Hop (Official Thread)

[Genuma]

Discuss all rap and hip-hop matters in here.

[Getup and Dance]

First.


KRS-One is pretty much my favorite Hip hop artist.

[Genuma]

KRS-One is awesome. Not my favorite though.

[wewascontenders]

Black Star is my favorite hip-hop album.

[Getup and Dance]

Mack Dre is pretty great also.

[chipdip18]

Probably my top artists (in no order):

A Tribe Called Quest
Atmosphere
Tech N9ne
Blue Scholars

[Genuma]

Just got into Blue Scholars a while ago. A Tribe Called Quest is classic.

[Getup and Dance]

I like Blue Scholars, they are pretty fun to play at parties.

[chipdip18]

Just got into Blue Scholars a while ago. A Tribe Called Quest is classic.


Blue Scholars reppin Washington! I saw them live with this group called Step Cousins, and they were also amazing. Every song about weed.

How do you guys feel about Rage?

[Genuma]

I never got into Rage.

[chipdip18]

I dig, but i have to be in the mood.

[Dan CiTi]

I like Girl Talk and some anime hip-hop/rap songs.

[thesafeword]

Never been able to get into hip-hop, where should I start?

[wewascontenders]

Never been able to get into hip-hop, where should I start?

Two Pack

[Genuma]

Two Pack
2pac, son.

[thesafeword]

Okay.

[chipdip18]

ATCQ is amazing. I love them.

[Getup and Dance]

Optimus Rhyme is still one of my favorite hip hop/Nerd rock groups.

[wewascontenders]

2pac, son.

TooPak?

[Getup and Dance]

Never been able to get into hip-hop, where should I start?

Blue Scholars, Kanye West, MF DOOM, and Jay-Z are easy ones to start with.

[tfar06]

Never been able to get into hip-hop, where should I start?
Download: Blu & Exile- Below The Heavens, Mos Def & Talib Kweli are Black Star, Common- Ressurection and Outkast- Aquemini.

[chipdip18]

Good reccs my good sir.

[bobby runs]

Mack Dre is pretty great also.
*Mac

and I love bay area rap.

[chipdip18]

Hey, how is N.E.R.D.?

[Genuma]

Illmatic is another good starter.

[Getup and Dance]

*Mac

and I love bay area rap.

I was looking at Mack 10 on my Itunes when I wrote that.

[Genuma]

Hey, how is N.E.R.D.?
N.E.R.D. is good. Haven't heard more than a song off the new album, but I enjoyed the first two.

[chipdip18]

N.E.R.D. is good. Haven't heard more than a song off the new album, but I enjoyed the first two.


Where to start?

[Getup and Dance]

Hey, how is N.E.R.D.?

N.E.R.D. isnt that bad, I dig alot of their old stuff, wasnt a big fan of seeing sounds though.

[bobby runs]

I was looking at Mack 10 on my Itunes when I wrote that.
I see.

[Genuma]

Where to start?
I'd say the new album, Seeing Sounds. It's got some of their catchiest singles from the songs I heard. It's been getting a bunch of new people into 'em too, so it must be pretty accesssible.

[Genuma]

N.E.R.D. isnt that bad, I dig alot of their old stuff, wasnt a big fan of seeing sounds though.
Everyone Nose was good shit. The rest isn't?

[chipdip18]

Gotcha, i'm going on a binge of buying CDs on August 5th

[El_Jeffe]

i listen to a few american rap/hip-hop groups like the roots (who i love!), public enemy, some stuff from a tribe called quest & a few other groups. but i'm largely into the roots of the genre, the original toasters/rappers from jamaica. that's my jam

[Genuma]

i listen to a few american rap/hip-hop groups like the roots (who i love!), public enemy, some stuff from a tribe called quest & a few other groups. but i'm largely into the roots of the genre, the original toasters/rappers from jamaica. that's my jam
I love the Roots. Who're some good Jamaican rappers?

[chipdip18]

The Low-End Theory owns. My favorite rap album.

[El_Jeffe]

I love the Roots. Who're some good Jamaican rappers?

umm as a starting point, i'd suggest linton kwesi johnson. he's actually a renowned poet, who has put his poems to dub & reggae music (which features some of the most precise & clever bass work i've ever heard). his poems are either political or social issue related & very strong. his album making history is my favourite, but he has a string of classics

[Genuma]

The Low-End Theory owns. My favorite rap album.
Midnight Marauders is my favorite.

[Genuma]

Thanks Craig. I'm listening now.

[El_Jeffe]

no worries brother, there's plenty of jamaican artists who are soo good. there isn't much (that i've come across yet) in america that interests me. but hopefully, with help of this thread, that'll change. & linton may be a little "different" to what you're used to at the moment, but give it time to warm up. the man's talented

[Genuma]

Yeah, it is pretty different. Haha. The beats are unique, though and the lyrics, from what I can understand, are great.

[El_Jeffe]

haha don't worry mate, you grow an ear for picking up what they're putting down. that goes for both beats & rhymes


is anyone interested in rap & hip-hop history? more specifically, anyone trace back to jamaica? where's that jumpoff when you need him haha

[Genuma]

Jumpoff is insanse when it comes to hip-hop. I'm expecting him to own this thread when he gets here. Haha. I don't know much about it's history, myself.

[Genuma]

Man, Black Star is so good.

[tfar06]

get into Crooked I, really decent west coast artist on the rise. former death row rapper turned independant. he dropped weekly freestyles i think for a year and you can download them in three mixtapes at datpiff.com.

[tfar06]

get into Panacea.

[ThisIsNotDan]

Shinsight Trio are pretty good. you should check them out. really like their song "Early Dayz Amazement".

and good to see some Blue Scholars love. really diggin those dudes

[williek311]

Knowledge Reigns Supremely Over Nearly Everyone

[born to expire]

Never been able to get into hip-hop, where should I start?

Download these albums:

Nas - Illmatic
Notorious BIG - Ready to Die
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Eric B & Rakim - Paid in Full
Run DMC - Raising Hell
Big L - Lifestylez ov da Poor and Dangerous
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded


Stay away from backpacker rap.

[mht]

can't wait for AZ's new album to drop.


and I second stay away from backpacker rap

[Jumpoff]

I tried making one of these ages ago and it failes miserably :-p

can't wait for AZ's new album to drop.


and I second stay away from backpacker rap

AZ has a new album dropping? Haven't really been checking for him but Doe Or Die and that unforgettable guest appearance are still classic..

News Murs, Clipse and Immortal Tech dropping soon. Semi-looking forward to them... would be far happier if Joe Budden, Saigon, and Grafh dropped their albums but that just isn't happening.

umm as a starting point, i'd suggest linton kwesi johnson. he's actually a renowned poet, who has put his poems to dub & reggae music (which features some of the most precise & clever bass work i've ever heard). his poems are either political or social issue related & very strong. his album making history is my favourite, but he has a string of classics

Thanks a lot for this recc a while ago by the way! The man's music is great.

Never been able to get into hip-hop, where should I start?

Depends really what you like when it comes to music. If you are looking for the purely political or maybe more accessible rappers, then try out The Coup, Murs, Common, De La Soul, Pharoahe Monch, old Outkast, old Goodie Mob, The Roots, etc.

If you don't mind drug references and semi-misogynistic music, then perhaps try out J-Zone, old Scarface, old Nas, Clipse, Kool G Rap, Big L, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon's OB4CL, etc

If you want something just more chilled out and for fun, then listen to Devin Da Dude, Cypress Hill, old The Pharcyde, Slick Rick, Redman, etc

Some classics to start out with would be...

The Coup - Steal this Album
Common - Ressurection
De La Soul - any of their three first
Pharoahe Monch - Internal Affairs
Outkast - any of the three first
Goodie Mob - any of the first two
The Roots - illadelph halflife
Scarface - The Diary / Mr. Scarface is Back (The Diary is more smooth G-Funk, Mr. Scarface is 80's hardcore rap)
Nas - Illmatic
Kool G Rap - Wanted Dead or Alive
Ghostface - Supreme Clientele
Raekwon - OB4CL
Devin da Dude - Just Tryin Ta' Live
Cypress Hill - self titled
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride (fun album), Labcabincalifornia (more serious album)
Slick Rick - Great Adventures of (my favorite hip hop album of all time bar none.)
Redman - any of his first three.

[mht]

actually, apparently it's already out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undeniable_%28album%29

[Jumpoff]

actually, apparently it's already out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undeniable_%28album%29

If you want I can send it your way.

[kemichels]

Pharoahe Monch - Internal Affairs, Desire

He has such a distinct style of delivery, it's amazing. Great live performance too, especially with his backup singers/band.

It's a shame Internal Affairs got pulled from the shelves (He sampled the horns/track from Godzilla without permission in his song Simon Says...which is still one of the best beats I've ever fucking heard in a song, haha)

Pacewon - Won

Qwell and Meaty Ogre - Freezerburner

Qwellie can rhyme more syllables than Big Daddy Kane could ever hope to and his flow makes Aesop Rock wish he could rap that fast without over-dubs.

Anything Wu Tang. (Ghostface is a metaphorical master and probably one of the best in the game, Raekwon is a gem, RZA has the sickest simple beats you'll hear, ODB is just plain fun). Plus, the clan ain't nothing to fuck with.

Anything Immortal Technique, but especially Rev. Vol 2 (maybe The Third World if you want better production). And no matter what cd you get, get the song "Dance With the Devil" from Rev. Vol. 1. One of the most powerful songs I've ever heard, in any genre.
He's one of the most talented out there. While some of his ideas/thoughts are a little radical, his rhymes are sick and overall his message about poverty, classism, racism, and politics is clear. He's not rapping about "hanging over the wall in the VIP" and "making it rain on them hos", aka Lil Wayne.

[3eb23]

can't wait for AZ's new album to drop.


and I second stay away from backpacker rap

what is this new album? he just released undeniable in april. i am the truth, truth. on a whole 'nother level.

[3eb23]

actually, apparently it's already out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undeniable_%28album%29

ah there ya go

[3eb23]

If you want I can send it your way.

jumpoff youre the main guy i respect on here concerning hip-hop matters. i was wondering what's your favorite artist man? and are there any up and comers who've got some potential to be great?

[Jumpoff]

jumpoff youre the main guy i respect on here concerning hip-hop matters. i was wondering what's your favorite artist man? and are there any up and comers who've got some potential to be great?

Well.. when it comes to favorite artists, I just generally give the stock answers of Nas, Ghostface Killah, 2Pac, and Andre 3000... I can't really say anymore though. Both Nas and Andre 3000 (and most other rappers who I'd call favorite) haven't released an album I thoroughly enjoyed in years.

When it comes to up and comers, I really am not sure anymore. Grafh and Saigon are great when it comes to more "street" rappers, but their debuts will probably never come out. Joe Budden has been putting in a lot of work, and though he did have an album out back in like '01, it has been pure mixtapes with him on the shelf since then. His mixtapes are great, though I much rather have a full length. Check them out if you haven't, all named "Mood Muzik"... he gets at least a bit of respect from most people in internet hip hop circles so he has to be doing something right. Papoose has a pretty big cult following, personally think he's garbage anymore, but he's clever lyrically (or at least used to be. Haven't listened to any of his mixtapes in a bit... he has released a ridiculous amount.)

[tfar06]

Well.. when it comes to favorite artists, I just generally give the stock answers of Nas, Ghostface Killah, 2Pac, and Andre 3000... I can't really say anymore though. Both Nas and Andre 3000 (and most other rappers who I'd call favorite) haven't released an album I thoroughly enjoyed in years.

When it comes to up and comers, I really am not sure anymore. Grafh and Saigon are great when it comes to more "street" rappers, but their debuts will probably never come out. Joe Budden has been putting in a lot of work, and though he did have an album out back in like '01, it has been pure mixtapes with him on the shelf since then. His mixtapes are great, though I much rather have a full length. Check them out if you haven't, all named "Mood Muzik"... he gets at least a bit of respect from most people in internet hip hop circles so he has to be doing something right. Papoose has a pretty big cult following, personally think he's garbage anymore, but he's clever lyrically (or at least used to be. Haven't listened to any of his mixtapes in a bit... he has released a ridiculous amount.)

andre 3000 is the best rapper right now. period. his guest verses hrough the last two years are better than anyone elses. outkast are supposed to be droppin a new cd in 09 though. buddens good with the mixtapes but his albums are poop and ive only heard one mixtape from grafh and it was decent. Saigon is anti gay and im not down with that, plus mother fucker aint ever gonna release and album so fuck em.

Best rapper= andre 3000
Best album= nas, illmatic
best new artist= blu & exile

ludacris is undoubtedly one of the top 5 rappers right now also.

[Jumpoff]

andre 3000 is the best rapper right now. period. his guest verses hrough the last two years are better than anyone elses. outkast are supposed to be droppin a new cd in 09 though. buddens good with the mixtapes but his albums are poop and ive only heard one mixtape from grafh and it was decent. Saigon is anti gay and im not down with that, plus mother fucker aint ever gonna release and album so fuck em.

Best rapper= andre 3000
Best album= nas, illmatic
best new artist= blu & exile

ludacris is undoubtedly one of the top 5 rappers right now also.

If I could just call him my favorite based on guest appearances I would have picked Luda and Jadakiss as my two favorite rappers, but I can't do that. Albums are far more important than guest appearances and I wasn't feeling Stankonia or Idlewild at all. :shrug:

Buddens only had one album and there were some great tracks in there though it was plagued by filler, so no way you can say that his albums are poop if he's only even released one

[mattmatumbo]

hmm lately i've been into beastie boys and my all time favorite, Nujabes. He's pretty radical.

[tfar06]

If I could just call him my favorite based on guest appearances I would have picked Luda and Jadakiss as my two favorite rappers, but I can't do that. Albums are far more important than guest appearances and I wasn't feeling Stankonia or Idlewild at all. :shrug:

Buddens only had one album and there were some great tracks in there though it was plagued by filler, so no way you can say that his albums are poop if he's only even released one

i odnt agree with you aobut stankonia but i though budden dropped a new album last year, or was that just MM3? jadakiss is good too but he always raps about guns, all th time. he was on like 3 remixs awhile back with bun b (push it remix, go getta remix and somthing else) and i think they should drop and album together, north and south.

[Jumpoff]

i odnt agree with you aobut stankonia but i though budden dropped a new album last year, or was that just MM3? jadakiss is good too but he always raps about guns, all th time. he was on like 3 remixs awhile back with bun b (push it remix, go getta remix and somthing else) and i think they should drop and album together, north and south.

I don't like collab albums and I very rarely like guest appearances haha. Budden hasn't droppped anything but his self titled. You are probably thinking of either MM3 or MM2.

[tfar06]

I don't like collab albums and I very rarely like guest appearances haha. Budden hasn't droppped anything but his self titled. You are probably thinking of either MM3 or MM2.

have you ever listened to sean price?

[Jumpoff]

have you ever listened to sean price?

Yeah, Jesus Price Superstar was great, so was Monkey Bars. Heltah Skeltah (I think that was his old band, could be mixing him up though) was great too.

[ThemChains]

Heavy rotation for me of late is...Gang Starr, Big L, Lupe Fiasco, Cadence Weapon.

[Getup and Dance]

andre 3000 is the best rapper right now. period. his guest verses hrough the last two years are better than anyone elses. outkast are supposed to be droppin a new cd in 09 though. buddens good with the mixtapes but his albums are poop and ive only heard one mixtape from grafh and it was decent. Saigon is anti gay and im not down with that, plus mother fucker aint ever gonna release and album so fuck em.

Best rapper= andre 3000
Best album= nas, illmatic
best new artist= blu & exile

ludacris is undoubtedly one of the top 5 rappers right now also.

I wouldnt agree with those.

Andre has always been pretty good, but on the last couple albums his flow has been a little week.

His is up there for mainstream hiphop though.

And for Illmatic, It was the best NAS release but I wouldnt consider it a strong release in the hip hop community.

For me it would be.

Best Rapper - KRS-One
Best Album - GZA - Liquid Swords
Best New Artist - Blue Scholars
Most Underrated - Inspectah Deck

[Jumpoff]

I wouldnt agree with those.

Andre has always been pretty good, but on the last couple albums his flow has been a little week.

His is up there for mainstream hiphop though.

And for Illmatic, It was the best NAS release but I wouldnt consider it a strong release in the hip hop community.

For me it would be.

Best Rapper - KRS-One
Best Album - GZA - Liquid Swords
Best New Artist - Blue Scholars
Most Underrated - Inspectah Deck

Really? Illmatic not a strong release? Haven't heard many people say that to be honest.

Never really was a Deck fan outside of the obvious guest appearences like Triumph. His solo albums just never did it for me. He definitely is better than my least favorite Wu member U-God though..

[Getup and Dance]

Really? Illmatic not a strong release? Haven't heard many people say that to be honest.

Never really was a Deck fan outside of the obvious guest appearences like Triumph. His solo albums just never did it for me. He definitely is better than my least favorite Wu member U-God though..


For me NAS has never shown as a big influence to me, Mabye its because I have been more a KRS-One fanboy, but I just dont see NAS as much as a heavy hitter in the Hip Hop world.

inspectah Deck isnt bad at all, Check out the movement, if you need it I could Post it when I get home. He was never a solid hitter in Wu-Tang though and I noticed most people don't give him a solid listen to.

[Jumpoff]

For me NAS has never shown as a big influence to me, Mabye its because I have been more a KRS-One fanboy, but I just dont see NAS as much as a heavy hitter in the Hip Hop world.

inspectah Deck isnt bad at all, Check out the movement, if you need it I could Post it when I get home. He was never a solid hitter in Wu-Tang though and I noticed most people don't give him a solid listen to.

I listened to the movement and resident patient already, just never really stuck with me. I have them somewhere on my computer so thanks anyways :-d

[tfar06]

I wouldnt agree with those.

Andre has always been pretty good, but on the last couple albums his flow has been a little week.

His is up there for mainstream hiphop though.

And for Illmatic, It was the best NAS release but I wouldnt consider it a strong release in the hip hop community.

For me it would be.

Best Rapper - KRS-One
Best Album - GZA - Liquid Swords
Best New Artist - Blue Scholars
Most Underrated - Inspectah Deck

those are very good picks also. theres a lot of underrated mcs though. elzhi and royce da 5'9" are below the radar but goood as fuck.

[Getup and Dance]

those are very good picks also. theres a lot of underrated mcs though. elzhi and royce da 5'9" are below the radar but goood as fuck.

I have never heard of them, I will try to check them out though.

[stereomouse]

wut is hip hop?

[Jumpoff]

those are very good picks also. theres a lot of underrated mcs though. elzhi and royce da 5'9" are below the radar but goood as fuck.

Though I can't speak on Elzhi since I never was big into Slum Village, Royce isn't really underrated.. a shitload of people consider Death Is Certain a classic, though personally that's the only album by him that is actually worth listening to in my opinion.

[Getup and Dance]

c4RY-eJgHHs

My favorite Ice Cube song.

[tfar06]

Though I can't speak on Elzhi since I never was big into Slum Village, Royce isn't really underrated.. a shitload of people consider Death Is Certain a classic, though personally that's the only album by him that is actually worth listening to in my opinion.
it mainstream underrated. royces mixtape from a couple years ago, the bar exam, is very good. elzhis' mixtapes and solo stuff is quite good also.

[ThemChains]

What is that website/blog that has tons of mixtapes for download?

[Jumpoff]

What is that website/blog that has tons of mixtapes for download?

DatPiff? Not a fan personally but could be what you're talking about.

Honestly, there are tons of sites for that... a really good one was pure torrents mixtapes and I can't remember the name of it.

EDIT: raphustle.com

EDIT : Actually, they changed it to a different website and it's not as good as it formerly was.

[EchoPark]

DatPiff.com is the best site for free hip hop mixtapes. You can find a lot of rare shit from a lot of good MC's.

[Getup and Dance]

RealRapTalk.com is a forum I use, they have everything from personally made mixtapes to profesional ones and Cd's. You just have to register and deal with horrible grammar.

[tfar06]

i also use realraptalk.com, datpiff and nobodysmiling.com

[Jumpoff]

Most underrated rappers in my opinion are Cee Lo, Redman and Xzibit

Cee Lo is obvious. I honestly put Goodie Mob's first two albums on the same level as Outkast's first three...

Noone really ever talks about Redman or Xzibit anymore. Both released some classic albums earlier in their career, regardless of whether or not they fell off now.

[Getup and Dance]

Xzibit has some solid releases and so does redman. I havent heard to much of Cee Lo though, what albums do you rec for him?

[El_Jeffe]

not only did jamaica create the concept of rapping (first known example dating back to '52), but also the art of deejay’ing, remixing, dub & electronic music. & thanks to two of the worlds most famous taxi drivers, sly & robbie, the idea of a rapped verse & sung chorus, among other things

i was listening to the inventor of the remix & dub innovator himself earlier, king tubby. any love?

ska music is rubbish? yea right... haha

[tfar06]

Most underrated rappers in my opinion are Cee Lo, Redman and Xzibit

Cee Lo is obvious. I honestly put Goodie Mob's first two albums on the same level as Outkast's first three...

Noone really ever talks about Redman or Xzibit anymore. Both released some classic albums earlier in their career, regardless of whether or not they fell off now.

cee lo is not underrated, neither is redman. xzibit, yeah i'll give you that. cee lo and redman are still highly respected. Whut? Thee Album is top 50 rap albums of all time.

[Jumpoff]

cee lo is not underrated, neither is redman. xzibit, yeah i'll give you that. cee lo and redman are still highly respected. Whut? Thee Album is top 50 rap albums of all time.

I never see Cee Lo waited highly. Ever. And I do post on hip hop forums.... everyone forgets completely about him.

I can understand your arguement for Redman not being underrated since most people who know what they're talking about do wait those first three highly, but a lot of people judge him based on his new album or Doc's The Name and say he's trash, or at least the people I meet. :shrug:

[tfar06]

I never see Cee Lo waited highly. Ever. And I do post on hip hop forums.... everyone forgets completely about him.

I can understand your arguement for Redman not being underrated since most people who know what they're talking about do wait those first three highly, but a lot of people judge him based on his new album or Doc's The Name and say he's trash, or at least the people I meet. :shrug:
i thought red gone wild was pretty decent.

[travisjeffery]

atmosphere.
anyone? he's amazing at just telling relatable stories in his lyrics. i love it.

[bobby runs]

glad to see this is moving

[tfar06]

atmosphere.
anyone? he's amazing at just telling relatable stories in his lyrics. i love it.
the song gods bathroom floor is his best. i like a lot of his albums but the new one didnt catch me yet.

[Jumpoff]

atmosphere.
anyone? he's amazing at just telling relatable stories in his lyrics. i love it.

I wanted to like him but honestly not able to. Something about him just doesn't do it for me at all, maybe I'm a victim of all the hype surrounding him. Don't know.

[bobby runs]

What should i get into if i like jay z and kanye ????

[tfar06]

What should i get into if i like jay z and kanye ????
freeway and beinie sigel, theyre the roc boys. lupe fiasco, kids in the hall, common.

[Getup and Dance]

What should i get into if i like jay z and kanye ????

Ghostface Killah - Bulletproof Wallet
Nas - Illmatic
KRS-One - I Got Next
GZA - Words from the Genius

[chipdip18]

My bro is letting me borrow Illmatic so i can put it on my computer he absolutely loves it, so i'mhoping i will.

[tfar06]

My bro is letting me borrow Illmatic so i can put it on my computer he absolutely loves it, so i'mhoping i will.
halftime, ny state of mind and memory lane are my favorites but honestly the entire cd is great

[EchoPark]

not only did jamaica create the concept of rapping (first known example dating back to '52), but also the art of deejay’ing, remixing, dub & electronic music. & thanks to two of the worlds most famous taxi drivers, sly & robbie, the idea of a rapped verse & sung chorus, among other things

i was listening to the inventor of the remix & dub innovator himself earlier, king tubby. any love?

ska music is rubbish? yea right... haha
New Zealand has a pretty awesome ska/reggae/dub scene eh bro?

[williek311]

Arrested Development - 3 Years, 5 Months & 2 Days in the Life of...

[El_Jeffe]

New Zealand has a pretty awesome ska/reggae/dub scene eh bro?

just phenomenal brother. there's always some great new & innovative talent cropping up from somewhere too. the live ska/reggae culture is above & beyond. had a chance to catch anyone, or not your jam?

[EchoPark]

just phenomenal brother. there's always some great new & innovative talent cropping up from somewhere too. the live ska/reggae culture is above & beyond. had a chance to catch anyone, or not your jam?

I appreciate all types of music, never really followed it much but I did get a chance to catch the Black Seeds about 6 months ago here in Sydney, they went off pretty good. Lots of Kiwis I know here too are right into their dub/reggae.

[kearn1tm]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Haikudetatalbum.jpg

You owe it to yourself to listen to this.

See also: Mikah 9's solo stuff. Some of the best underground Hip Hop.

[Jumpoff]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Haikudetatalbum.jpg

You owe it to yourself to listen to this.

See also: Mikah 9's solo stuff. Some of the best underground Hip Hop.

I really have been sleeping on Haiku. I heard of them forever ago, downloaded their cd, but just never listened to it.. thanks for the reminder.

What should i get into if i like jay z and kanye ????

You shoudl check out :

Redman : Whut? Thee Album
Big Daddy Kane : Long Live the Kane
Nas : Illmatic or It Was Written (IWW is more accessible. So maybe check that out first.)
Ghostface Killah : Supreme Clientele
Masta Ace : A Long Hot Summer or Disposable Arts
Pharoahe Monch : Internal Affairs
Handsome Boy Modeling School : White People
The Coup : Kill my Landlord or Steal this Album
Pharcyde : Bizarre Ride II Da Pharcyde or Labcabincalifornia

[born to expire]

Glad to see some AZ love in here. All I have been listening to is Pieces of a Man. Nas's next album needs to be entirely produced by DJ Premiere and have AZ guest appearances on every song.

[Getup and Dance]

GZA - Pro Tools

Comes out in a couple weeks. Im excited for it.

[Jumpoff]

Glad to see some AZ love in here. All I have been listening to is Pieces of a Man. Nas's next album needs to be entirely produced by DJ Premiere and have AZ guest appearances on every song.

I'd prefer all premier and then AZ on one song :sleep:

But either way, I think he needs to go back to his roots. I don't really like his last three albums at all (though SD did have some bright spots, few and much inbetween).

[Getup and Dance]

I am also excited for new Common and Q-tip at the end of September.

[3eb23]

Glad to see some AZ love in here. All I have been listening to is Pieces of a Man. Nas's next album needs to be entirely produced by DJ Premiere and have AZ guest appearances on every song.

AZ is personally one of my favorite rappers. I don't think he'll ever get the full respect he deserves. I am glad to see that there are some people on this site that like him. It's actually pretty shocking/refreshing to me.

[3eb23]

I wanted to like him but honestly not able to. Something about him just doesn't do it for me at all, maybe I'm a victim of all the hype surrounding him. Don't know.

i started off liking atmosphere, but i can't get into him too much anymore. i just can't really take him seriously. like on trying to find a balance for example at the beginning of the song when he's trying to be all serious and he goes "if only they knew how real this life really gets" i can't keep a straight face when i hear him say that.

"stop writing raps and go play volleyball"....:hitself:

[ugman_2000]

Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher is a hip hop album I'm enjoying a lot at the moment,

Worth checking out if you like a more chilled out hip hop style

[Czarsy]

Glad to see some AZ love in here. All I have been listening to is Pieces of a Man. Nas's next album needs to be entirely produced by DJ Premiere and have AZ guest appearances on every song.
I am down with this.

[Czarsy]

i started off liking atmosphere, but i can't get into him too much anymore. i just can't really take him seriously. like on trying to find a balance for example at the beginning of the song when he's trying to be all serious and he goes "if only they knew how real this life really gets" i can't keep a straight face when i hear him say that.

"stop writing raps and go play volleyball"....:hitself:

Atmosphere sucks.

[Jumpoff]

Atmosphere sucks.

Me and you seem to agree on a lot of rap related things. :-d

[myantiyou]

I don't see why so many people like Atmosphere. I can't get into them at all.

[Jumpoff]

I don't see why so many people like Atmosphere. I can't get into them at all.

In my opinion, it's almost like backpacker lite. Music for people who really don't listen to much else hip hop wise.

[Getup and Dance]

I have never listened to Atmosphere, and I probably never will.

[tfar06]

some backpacker stuff is good, like company flow

[Getup and Dance]

Its kind of sad how Jay-Z went so downhill from his first couple great releases.


Also I know its not really hip hop but I am excited for The Games new release.

[tfar06]

Its kind of sad how Jay-Z went so downhill from his first couple great releases.


Also I know its not really hip hop but I am excited for The Games new release.
i like the game, even tohugh he does sohut out 20 diff rappers in a song

[Getup and Dance]

i like the game, even tohugh he does sohut out 20 diff rappers in a song

Thats why im hoping this next one will be better since he wont be giving a shotout to everyone that has ever worked with Dr. Dre and 50 cent.

[Genuma]

Atmosphere used to be all right but it's not even worth the time. No substance.

[Jumpoff]

some backpacker stuff is good, like company flow

I love Funcrusher Plus. I actually like a lot of stuff that some people call backpacker, such as Aesop, Murs, Cage, and Brother Ali.

Its kind of sad how Jay-Z went so downhill from his first couple great releases.


Also I know its not really hip hop but I am excited for The Games new release.

I agree on Jay-Z. I love Vol 1 and RD but could care less about the rest.

Game is just as "hip hop" as Rakim. But, not a fan of him at all. Regardless of the fact that it's all semantics, in my opinion, hip hop is a culture and rap is an element of it, so anyone who raps is automatically "hip hop". Regardless of how terrible the rapper is.

[sandra92]

I like this genre ..

[ThisIsNotDan]

I don't mind a bit of backpacker...

The Cool Kids are so unbelievably overrated though. they are nothing special

[Jumpoff]

I don't mind a bit of backpacker...

The Cool Kids are so unbelievably overrated though. they are nothing special

Haha yeah. I somewhat understand why they get so much attention but still, they really are not that good at all.

[ThisIsNotDan]

Haha yeah. I somewhat understand why they get so much attention but still, they really are not that good at all.

I mean yeah I like "Black Mags" and "Pump Up The Volume", but there is no need for them to be getting so much attention

[tfar06]

I love Funcrusher Plus. I actually like a lot of stuff that some people call backpacker, such as Aesop, Murs, Cage, and Brother Ali.



I agree on Jay-Z. I love Vol 1 and RD but could care less about the rest.

Game is just as "hip hop" as Rakim. But, not a fan of him at all. Regardless of the fact that it's all semantics, in my opinion, hip hop is a culture and rap is an element of it, so anyone who raps is automatically "hip hop". Regardless of how terrible the rapper is.

you know what youre talkiing about.

[Genuma]

Shit, I'm the only one who doesn't like any Jay-Z I guess.

[Jumpoff]

Shit, I'm the only one who doesn't like any Jay-Z I guess.

Maybe give Reasonable Doubt naother chance? Honestly, that and Vol 1 are the only albums I ever recc to people by him. There are about one or two songs of filler on each, and he admits that he regrets adding those songs so just skip them (I Know What Girls Like/Sunshine/Ain't No *****)...

[chipdip18]

In my opinion, it's almost like backpacker lite. Music for people who really don't listen to much else hip hop wise.


I am one of those people haha.

[Jumpoff]

New Clipse has leaked. I guess it's an album for them and the reup gang, or maybe just an elaborate mixtape. Called the Clipse presents re-up gang. (For those who don't know, the Re-Up gang is basically clipse + Ab Liva and Sandman. If you like Clipse you will like the other two.)

[zackisonfire]

Demigodz
Snowgoons
Army of the Pharaohs
Jus Allah
Wutang

[Genuma]

Maybe give Reasonable Doubt naother chance? Honestly, that and Vol 1 are the only albums I ever recc to people by him. There are about one or two songs of filler on each, and he admits that he regrets adding those songs so just skip them (I Know What Girls Like/Sunshine/Ain't No *****)...
Yeah, I will. I think I still have Reasonable Doubt around here.

[Getup and Dance]

Best Seattle rapper ever.

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[Getup and Dance]

Bump

[Getup and Dance]

This thread dropped back far.


Some good releases Coming up.

GZA - Protools 8/19
Young Jeezy - The Recession 9/2
The Game - L.A.X 8/26
Ice Cube - Raw Footage 8/19
LL Cool J - Exit 13 9/9
T.I. - Paper Trails 9/30
Common Market - Tobacco Road 9/9
Hell Rell - Straight Outta Harlem 9/16

Just some of the good ones people should check out.

[Jumpoff]

Honestly, all of those guys are either past their prime (Gza, TI, Ice Cube, LL) or just not releasing good music (Hell Rell, Jeezy, Game). Haven't heard Common Market, though.

Listening to the new Murs now, next up will be Nappy Roots.. and maybe later if I downloaded it that rare/unreleased songs album by Shabazz the Disciple..

[Getup and Dance]

You might like Common Market. He is on the same level with The Blue Scholars coming from Seattle.

But I also see T.I. and GZA coming out with some solid releases.

I agree about LL, and im wishing the Ice Cube's will be good.

I always liked Hell Rell's stuff from Dipset compared to the rest of the group.

Jezzy is good radio hip hop and I will probably like a couple of the songs and The Game has had some good mixtapes lately so as long as he doesnt name drop alot on this album it should be to bad, also alot of people are making some apperances on it that usually do a good job.

[Jumpoff]

Personally, I can't stand guest appearences haha. I mean, the only people I give a pass on that is Wu-Tang because... it's Wu-Tang.

I actually really liked the mixtapes from a while back from Game where basically every song was about 50 (the ones with Poison Bananas, 300 bars, etc)... but Iw ent back to them recently and they just weren't even half as good as I remember them to be and I changed it off pretty quick... I still like Budden's mixtapes though :-p

[Getup and Dance]

See, I think some artists only make good guest appearences. Like Busta, DMX, and Xzibit.

[Jumpoff]

I can handle great guest appearances here and there. But, I don't like there being more than one or two guest appearances on an album. My favorite Guest appearance rapper is definitely Luda though... I love Xzibit's first two albums so much but don't really care for his guest appearances :-p

[tfar06]

hell rell sucks

[Jumpoff]

hell rell sucks

I agree. Personally, the only member of Dipset I care about is Cam, and that's because Confessions of Fire/Children of the Corn/SDE were great.... he changed and became shitty with just good beats.

Juelz is decent, though.

EDIT : After listening to Murs, I can safely say that he isn't topping 3:16 9th Edition. There are some good tracks but on the whole it is forgettable.

The Nappy Roots is setting up to be a letdown. Pole Position and Flex are garbage tracks. They aren't going to fuck with their older releases either :-(

[Pluto.]

I'm always alone when it comes to this dude. But I love Cage. Sage Francis aswell.

[Jumpoff]

I'm always alone when it comes to this dude. But I love Cage. Sage Francis aswell.

Cage is great. I love Hell's Winter. Sage Francis is decent but whem I'm in the mood to hear his type of rap I honestly just turn to Aesop Rock's Labor Days...

And, as odd as this might be, from Wikipedia:

In a recent Vanity Fair interview with Shia LaBeouf, the actor hinted at starring as Cage in a possible big screen adaptation of the rapper's life story.[5] On November 30, 2007, Spin reported that the film would go into production.[6]

rofl. Somewhat surprised to find out he's a Cage fan.

[Pluto.]

Cage is great. I love Hell's Winter. Sage Francis is decent but whem I'm in the mood to hear his type of rap I honestly just turn to Aesop Rock's Labor Days...

And, as odd as this might be, from Wikipedia:

In a recent Vanity Fair interview with Shia LaBeouf, the actor hinted at starring as Cage in a possible big screen adaptation of the rapper's life story.[5] On November 30, 2007, Spin reported that the film would go into production.[6]

rofl. Somewhat surprised to find out he's a Cage fan.

Yeahhh. Hell's Winter is amazing. Some songs I'm kinda meh about though. I looove Shoot Frank off that album. Scenester too. Aw really? I'm always in the mood for Sage Francis. :P

On a sider note I can't really stand much Immortal Technique. I mean some songs are great. But I just can't really get into them?

Whoa.....weird. I could never picture him as a Cage fan in a zillion years.

[Jumpoff]

Yeahhh. Hell's Winter is amazing. Some songs I'm kinda meh about though. I looove Shoot Frank off that album. Scenester too. Aw really? I'm always in the mood for Sage Francis. :P

On a sider note I can't really stand much Immortal Technique. I mean some songs are great. But I just can't really get into them?

Whoa.....weird. I could never picture him as a Cage fan in a zillion years.

I do like some Francis, like Black Out on White Night in Rome and Water Line, but I can't stand his more battle oriented tracks. He's better when introspective.

I remember back when I used to watch disney they had him, and people like the girls from sister sister and the little kid from smart kid saying what kind of music they liked, and he said he liked rap and elton john. Didn't really think he meant Cage :-p

I. Technique is good but he an become a bit grating with the "in your face" political approach. I do like his music though :shrug:

[myplanforescape]

I just started getting into hip-hop not to long ago so I've barely scratched the surface, but some artists I've checked out and really enjoyed have been Cage, El-P, Doomtree, and Juggaknots. I know its not much to go off, but could I get a few recs based off those?

[Jumpoff]

I just started getting into hip-hop not to long ago so I've barely scratched the surface, but some artists I've checked out and really enjoyed have been Cage, El-P, Doomtree, and Juggaknots. I know its not much to go off, but could I get a few recs based off those?

Listen to Prince Paul's A Prince Among Thieves.. one of the main guys from Juggaknots is basically the main character in it.

Also, check out Company Flow, Panacea, Brother Ali, Handsome Boy Modeling School, Little Brohter, Sage Francis, Acelayone and Aesop Rock. They all might be up your alley.

[Manbotisdead]

New Clipse has leaked. I guess it's an album for them and the reup gang, or maybe just an elaborate mixtape. Called the Clipse presents re-up gang. (For those who don't know, the Re-Up gang is basically clipse + Ab Liva and Sandman. If you like Clipse you will like the other two.)


Clipse are so overrated. I love their stuff, but it is not classic like XXL and everyone else seems to think. They would have to be able to finish a verse properly in order for that to be the case.

I do like this new album though. Not as good as Lord Willing or Hell Hath No Fury. I'm hoping the loss of Neptunes beats on Til the Casket Drops does something to make them sound stronger.

[Jumpoff]

Clipse are so overrated. I love their stuff, but it is not classic like XXL and everyone else seems to think. They would have to be able to finish a verse properly in order for that to be the case.

I do like this new album though. Not as good as Lord Willing or Hell Hath No Fury. I'm hoping the loss of Neptunes beats on Til the Casket Drops does something to make them sound stronger.

They are far from classic but they are far better than almost everything being released lately to be honest. I've been completely underwhelmed with hip hop lately... still sitting here waiting for all the mixtape rappers I've liked to drop their always delayed albums.

[Manbotisdead]

They are far from classic but they are far better than almost everything being released lately to be honest. I've been completely underwhelmed with hip hop lately... still sitting here waiting for all the mixtape rappers I've liked to drop their always delayed albums.

The second half of 08 is looking much bigger, you've got Game, TI, Raekwon, Saigon, Big Boi, maybe MF Doom, Dr Dre, Q-Tip, Bishop Lamont, supposedly Eminem

If you're underwhelmed I recommend checking out Jean Grae and 9th Wonder's Jeanius and eMC's The Show if you havent yet

[Jumpoff]

The second half of 08 is looking much bigger, you've got Game, TI, Raekwon, Saigon, Big Boi, maybe MF Doom, Dr Dre, Q-Tip, Bishop Lamont, supposedly Eminem

If you're underwhelmed I recommend checking out Jean Grae and 9th Wonder's Jeanius and eMC's The Show if you havent yet

I didn't know Jean Grae released anything this year, so thanks on the headsup... and never heard of eMC (or maybe I don't remember him?) so I will.

I don't really care for most of that list. I don't like the Game or Doom. I expect shitty albums from Rae, Eminem and TI, though I love some of their earlier stuff... I don't really expect Saigon or Bishop Lamont to ever release their albums, though if they did I would be extremely happy (same if Grafh did or if Joe Budden did.)... Big Boi would be nice to get something from. I'm shaky on whether or not I'd like the Q-Tip as I don't like any of his non ATCQ work to be honest.

I personally think Dre will not be releasing Detox. So, I can only be pleasantly surprised if he does.. and hopefully Royce still ghostwrites for him.

[Getup and Dance]

The second half of 08 is looking much bigger, you've got Game, TI, Raekwon, Saigon, Big Boi, maybe MF Doom, Dr Dre, Q-Tip, Bishop Lamont, supposedly Eminem

If you're underwhelmed I recommend checking out Jean Grae and 9th Wonder's Jeanius and eMC's The Show if you havent yet

The new MF DOOM im guessing youre talking about Swift and Changeable by MF and Ghostface?

Im excited for that album. They need a release date for it though.

[Ouch]

david david banner

AY YALL SEEN A CHEVY WIT THE BUTTERFLY THROWS

STUNT STUNTIN IS A HABIT, GET LIKE ME!

[Manbotisdead]

The new MF DOOM im guessing youre talking about Swift and Changeable by MF and Ghostface?

Im excited for that album. They need a release date for it though.

Nah I was actually talking about the rumored Doomposter, but Swift and Changeable would be nice too.

[Manbotisdead]

I didn't know Jean Grae released anything this year, so thanks on the headsup... and never heard of eMC (or maybe I don't remember him?) so I will.

I don't really care for most of that list. I don't like the Game or Doom. I expect shitty albums from Rae, Eminem and TI, though I love some of their earlier stuff... I don't really expect Saigon or Bishop Lamont to ever release their albums, though if they did I would be extremely happy (same if Grafh did or if Joe Budden did.)... Big Boi would be nice to get something from. I'm shaky on whether or not I'd like the Q-Tip as I don't like any of his non ATCQ work to be honest.

I personally think Dre will not be releasing Detox. So, I can only be pleasantly surprised if he does.. and hopefully Royce still ghostwrites for him.

eMC is a supergroup of Masta Ace, Punchline, Worsdworth, and Stricklin. It's a really good CD and way too underrated. Big Boi is October I think. I keep forgetting about Joe Budden's album. That would be really nice.

[ThemChains]

Anyone here into Doomtree, Dessa, or Cecil Otter?

[tfar06]

What is a Doomed Tree?
p.o.s. is on doomtree i think.

[Jumpoff]

eMC is a supergroup of Masta Ace, Punchline, Worsdworth, and Stricklin. It's a really good CD and way too underrated. Big Boi is October I think. I keep forgetting about Joe Budden's album. That would be really nice.

I thought Masta Ace "retired" after Long Hot Summer. He's great though so I will get on that..

[Praetor]

Give me the top twenty or so rap/hip-hop records that are held generally in high regard (not necessarily personal preferences), please. I wanna try to break into the genre just a little.

[Jumpoff]

Give me the top twenty or so rap/hip-hop records that are held generally in high regard (not necessarily personal preferences), please. I wanna try to break into the genre just a little.

Well...

Nas - Illmatic
Raekwon - OB4CL
Wu Tang - 36 Chambers
Method Man - Tical
Ghostface - Supreme Clientele
Gza - Liquid Swords
Rakim - Paid In Full
ATCQ - Low End Theory
Scarface - Mr. Scarface is Back
Big Daddy Kane - Long Live the Kane
Kool G Rap and DJ Polo - Road to the Riches
2Pac - Me Against the World
Common - Ressurection
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Snoop Dog - Doggystyle
DOC - No One can Do it Better
Slick Rick - Great Adventures of
De La Soul - Is Dead
Pete Rock and CL Smooth - Return of the Mecca

There is maybe one on this list that I don't actually like (NWA) but otherwise it's a pretty generic top 20. To be honest... getting into it will be harder with this list than one based on people's personal preference to be honest as some of these albums are dated and others are just not as accessible on first listen.

[tfar06]

Give me the top twenty or so rap/hip-hop records that are held generally in high regard (not necessarily personal preferences), please. I wanna try to break into the genre just a little.
1. 36 Chambers by Wu Tang Clan
2. Illmatic by Nas
3. Reasonable Doubt by Jay Z
4. Ready To Die by Notorious B.I.G.
5. Only Built 4 Cuban Linx by Raekwon
6. Ressurection by Common
7. Brekaing Atoms by Mainsource
8. The Infamous by Mobb Deep
9. Word...Life by O.C.
10. Liquid Swords by Gza
11. Criminal Minded by Boogie Down Productions
12.AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted by Ice Cube
13. The Chronic by Dr. Dre
14.Mecca & The Soul Brother by Pete Rock & CL Smooth
15. E. 1999 Eternal by Bone Thugs N Harmony
16. Doggystyle by Snoop Doggy Dogg
17. Soul On Ice by Rass Kass
18. Aquemini by Outkast
19. Paid In Full by Eric B. & Rakim
20. Black Star by Black Star
21. Capital Punishment by Big Pun
22. Makaveli by Tupac
23. Illadelph Halflife by The Roots
24. ATCQ- Low End Theory
25. Ghostface Killah- Supreme Clientele
26. Method Man- Tical
27. Redman- Whut? Thee Album
28.It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back by Public Enemy
29.Straight Outta Compton bt N.W.A.
30. The Slim Shady L.P. by Eminem
31. Lifestyles Ov Da Poor And Dangerous by Big L

bolded are my faves

[tfar06]

get elzhi the preface. just leaked. REAL GOOD

[tfar06]

anyone listen to drake?

[Getup and Dance]

Give me the top twenty or so rap/hip-hop records that are held generally in high regard (not necessarily personal preferences), please. I wanna try to break into the genre just a little.

These are in no order, just 20 great hip hop albums.

1. NWA - Straight Outta Compton
2. Ice Cube - The Predator
3. Jay-Z - The Blue Print
4. NAS - Illmatic
5. 2pac - All Eyez On Me
6. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - The Art Of War
7. Cypress Hill - Skull and Bones
8. Warren G - Regulate...G Funk Era
9. KRS-One - I Got Next
10. Ghostface Killah - Iron Man
11. Raekwan - Chef Cooked Cocaine
12. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Return of the 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version
13. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang 36 Chambers
14. Def Squad - El Nino
15. Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
16. Sir Mix-a-Lot - Swass
17. Run D.M.C. - Raising Hell
18. Big Daddy Kane - Long Live The Kane
19. Biz Markie - Goin' Off
20. Dr. Dre - The Cronic

Also check out

Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
A Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory
De La Soul - De La Soul is Dead
Redman - Whut? Thee Album
The Fugees - The Score

[Getup and Dance]

Also I want to throw Afrika Bambaataa - The Planet on that list.

[Jumpoff]

I forgot this "album" came out this year, but I Pledge Allegiance to the Grind II is nice.

[Getup and Dance]

I have been digging Big Daddy Kane alot.

[thesafeword]

The only hip-hop/rap album I've ever listened all the way through is The Best of the Geto Boys, but I'm trying to download some A Tribe Called Quest.

[theguy77]

of course john would make this thread

[Genuma]

of course john would make this thread
Why aren't you posting? I thought you'd like rap.......

[Punkrocker104]

i love rap, and hip hop, if you love it too, add me ass a friend =]

[Genuma]

Ass? Friend?

[Getup and Dance]

Ass Friend????

[Genuma]

I hope!!!!

[Getup and Dance]

You know it, im glad she bumped the hip hop thread.

[Genuma]

Yeah, I left it on a bad racist note.

[Getup and Dance]

So should we talk about hip hop?


2Pac is fucking great.

[Genuma]

2Pac is fucking great, that should be a general rule of this thread.

[Getup and Dance]

Truth.

[sandra92]

2Pac is fucking great, that should be a general rule of this thread.

agree

[demo521]

anyone have any recommendations for good indie/underground hip-hop artists???


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[Getup and Dance]

Not Tyga

[SanePsychotic]

I don't even know who Tyga is. I feel so out of the loop.

[WhoSaidThat?]

Ass Friends with benefits?

[thesafeword]

Sounds good.

[Genuma]

Tyga is the Gym Class Heroes cousin or brother or friend or something.

[Jumpoff]

I'm liking the new Benedict Arnold so far. Three songs in.

[chipdip18]

So who's beats do you like the most? And does anyone know any good free software for making beats?

[Getup and Dance]

Dr. Dre is one of my favorite producers, Fruity loops is a free loop program which is easy to use for beginners.

[chipdip18]

Dr. Dre is one of my favorite producers, Fruity loops is a free loop program which is easy to use for beginners.

Does that free download not let you save though? Dr. Dre is definitely up there. Ratatat also.

[Getup and Dance]

I believe it lets you save.

Do you use a PC or mac?

[chipdip18]

I have a PC.

[Jumpoff]

So who's beats do you like the most? And does anyone know any good free software for making beats?

My favorite three beatmakers would be Organized Noize, the Rza, and DJ Premier. There are tons of other greats like Pete Rock though.

The best software for making beats is probably Frooty Loops, just bootleg it with a crack or keygen. 9th Wonder is a good example of a guy who uses it to its full potential. There is really no good freeware in my opinion.

Best bet to make actual beats is to spend money on an MPC, though.

[chipdip18]

My favorite three beatmakers would be Organized Noize, the Rza, and DJ Premier. There are tons of other greats like Pete Rock though.

The best software for making beats is probably Frooty Loops, just bootleg it with a crack or keygen. 9th Wonder is a good example of a guy who uses it to its full potential. There is really no good freeware in my opinion.

Best bet to make actual beats is to spend money on an MPC, though.


Unfortunately, i am a poor college student now. i probably will just bootleg it, once i figure out how. Rza does make good beats.

[Getup and Dance]

Yeah download FL Studio.

Also on the producer discussion DJ Muggs from Cypress Hill is pretty sick and did alot of work with a bunch of artists, and same goes with DJ Quik.

[Jumpoff]

Unfortunately, i am a poor college student now. i probably will just bootleg it, once i figure out how. Rza does make good beats.

Oh I understand you don't have the money for an MPC, just saying it really is the most effective way when you do get up enough money for it.

[Getup and Dance]

I use reason because when I bought it I had some nice money.

[Jumpoff]

Yeah download FL Studio.

Also on the producer discussion DJ Muggs from Cypress Hill is pretty sick and did alot of work with a bunch of artists, and same goes with DJ Quik.

Quik is good, but that whole addiction thing was hilarious. I can't believe he tried to pull that shit.

Honestly, there is no doubt in my mind that DJ Premier is the best hip hop producer ever. I mean, he produced all the Gangstarr albums (regardless of my dislike for Guru the beats are fire), The Sun Rises in the East, and a slew of classic tracks such as D'evils and NY State of Mind...

[Getup and Dance]

I still have to stick with Dr. Dre, his lyrics never are to hot but his beats from NWA to everyone he works with now are all gold.

[Jumpoff]

Never was a big fan of Dre to be 100% honest. Not saying his beats are bad in any way, just saying never really got into them.

[Getup and Dance]

Bump to start some more discussion.

What are some of your favorite diss tracks?

My favorite four are the Westside Connection vs Cypress Hill and Dr. Dre vs Eazy-E.
Westside connection - King of The Hill
Cypress Hill - Ice Cube Killa

Dr Dre - Dre Day
Eazy-E - Real Mutha Fuckin G's

[Czarsy]

Canibus - Second Round Knockout

[Getup and Dance]

Ice Cube was just released yesterday. Very overproduced but lyrics were still great on most songs. Anyone else check it out yet?


I keep hearing rumors about the blackout! 2 anyone else stoked about that?

[StreetSurgery]

Bump to start some more discussion.

What are some of your favorite diss tracks?

My favorite four are the Westside Connection vs Cypress Hill and Dr. Dre vs Eazy-E.
Westside connection - King of The Hill
Cypress Hill - Ice Cube Killa

Dr Dre - Dre Day
Eazy-E - Real Mutha Fuckin G's
nas - ether

[born to expire]

Bump to start some more discussion.

What are some of your favorite diss tracks?

My favorite four are the Westside Connection vs Cypress Hill and Dr. Dre vs Eazy-E.
Westside connection - King of The Hill
Cypress Hill - Ice Cube Killa

Dr Dre - Dre Day
Eazy-E - Real Mutha Fuckin G's

HIT 'EM UP
ETHER

[StreetSurgery]

Nail In the Coffin - Eminem.
Let's be honest, he was insane on:
Marshal Mathers EP/LP
Infinite.

[born to expire]

i haven't listened to an eminem song that isn't "off the wall" feat. redman in probably 6 or 7 years. so many other better rappers.

[Jumpoff]

Common's Bitch in Yoo is my overall favorite diss track of all time... Budden's "Ransom Note", Biggie's "Kick in the Door", DJ Quik's "Dollaz and Sense, Jay-Z's "Super Ugly", and a few I'm forgetting are all great though.

I prefer Super Ugly to Ether, though most disagree with me on that. I just think that while Ether was mostly just playground insults, Super Ugly was personal...

[3eb23]

i call these rappers baby seals cuz they club you to death

[El_Jeffe]

what hip-hop, rap, ragga, etc albums have been great this year?

heard a lot of chatter about black spade's new one, to serve with love. but haven't actually checked it out yet

[ThemChains]

Favorite diss tracks?

Ice Cube-"No Vaseline"
LL Cool J-"To Da Break Of Dawn"

[myantiyou]

will you be my corona and lime

[ThemChains]

will you be my corona and lime

Que? Little old me?

[myantiyou]

Que? Little old me?

L-38tShbnTg
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-38tShbnTg)

[Ouch]

Canibus - Second Round Knockout

definitely

[tfar06]

what hip-hop, rap, ragga, etc albums have been great this year?

heard a lot of chatter about black spade's new one, to serve with love. but haven't actually checked it out yet
elzhi- the preface.

[ThisIsNotDan]

big Nas and Biggie kick lately for me. I have Illmatic and Stillmatic. what next?

and I love how I can't find any fucking Blue Scholars albums anywhere. fuck the what

[tfar06]

big Nas and Biggie kick lately for me. I have Illmatic and Stillmatic. what next?

and I love how I can't find any fucking Blue Scholars albums anywhere. fuck the what
those two r my favorite from him. id say It Was Written or Gods Son....definitely gods son.

[Getup and Dance]

big Nas and Biggie kick lately for me. I have Illmatic and Stillmatic. what next?

and I love how I can't find any fucking Blue Scholars albums anywhere. fuck the what

If you want to buy them on amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Blue+Scholars&x=0&y=0

[ashesofapril234]

Bump for discussion, I'm listening to elzhi's the preface for the first time and enjoying it a lot, has anyone listened to da bar exam 2?

[Getup and Dance]

Joe Budden and EPMD will be solid releases next month im sure.

[absolutecrunk]

Rap bump

[Jumpoff]

Joe Budden and EPMD will be solid releases next month im sure.

I doubt the EPMD will be any good... but if the Budden comes out, as in a real album and not another m ixtape, I will be extremely happy.. actually, even if it's just a new mood muzik... I've been playing all three of those daily lately.

big Nas and Biggie kick lately for me. I have Illmatic and Stillmatic. what next?

and I love how I can't find any fucking Blue Scholars albums anywhere. fuck the what

For Nas, get Lost Tapes next. Then It Was Written. Then God's Son. Then pretend that he died.

[Getup and Dance]

I doubt the EPMD will be any good... but if the Budden comes out, as in a real album and not another m ixtape, I will be extremely happy.. actually, even if it's just a new mood muzik... I've been playing all three of those daily lately.



For Nas, get Lost Tapes next. Then It Was Written. Then God's Son. Then pretend that he died.

So I just looked it up and Buddens release just got pushed back until February 2009. But they are releasing a 14 song digital release in October now.

Source:
http://www.hiphopgame.com/news.php3?id=2973

[Jumpoff]

So I just looked it up and Buddens release just got pushed back until February 2009. But they are releasing a 14 song digital release in October now.

Source:
http://www.hiphopgame.com/news.php3?id=2973

Budden is amazing but don't hold your breath. If half the shit he wanted ot happen actually happened we would've seen the Growth like 3 years ago.

[Getup and Dance]

Budden is amazing but don't hold your breath. If half the shit he wanted ot happen actually happened we would've seen the Growth like 3 years ago.

I know, Hip Hop would have been a lot better if Detox, OB4CL2, Blackout!2, and Padded Room got released this year.

[Jumpoff]

I know, Hip Hop would have been a lot better if Detox, OB4CL2, Blackout!2, and Padded Room got released this year.

Well, to be honest, I could give a shit about the first three. I already know OB4CL2 and Blackout 2 will be letdowns (I mean, I was already let down with Red Gone Wild, and the chance of OB4CL2 holding a candle to OB4CL is not very high), and I've never been a big fan of Dre.

[Getup and Dance]

Well, to be honest, I could give a shit about the first three. I already know OB4CL2 and Blackout 2 will be letdowns (I mean, I was already let down with Red Gone Wild, and the chance of OB4CL2 holding a candle to OB4CL is not very high), and I've never been a big fan of Dre.

I see Blackout! 2 being better than Red Gone Wild, I saw a short video clip of Redman in the studio and it sounded pretty solid, OB4CL2 I also think should be great, Production wise they have everyone who should be working on it throwing down some beats. and Dre has been one of my favorite producers since I first put on Straight Outta Compton and I always love the stuff he does.

[Jumpoff]

I see Blackout! 2 being better than Red Gone Wild, I saw a short video clip of Redman in the studio and it sounded pretty solid, OB4CL2 I also think should be great, Production wise they have everyone who should be working on it throwing down some beats. and Dre has been one of my favorite producers since I first put on Straight Outta Compton and I always love the stuff he does.

When it comes to OB4CL2 for me, the only person who should be producing it is Rza. I don't like the way Red's flow has changed so much, it's just not as good as it once was.... and I've always found Dre boring.

[Getup and Dance]

When it comes to OB4CL2 for me, the only person who should be producing it is Rza. I don't like the way Red's flow has changed so much, it's just not as good as it once was.... and I've always found Dre boring.

RZA and Busta are exec producers, Dr. Dre and Erick Sermon are two of the main producers for OB4CL2, I still think Red's flow was best in Malpractice, and he has said he is wanting to go back to more of his older sound. The main reason I like Dre is he can take a very simple beat and make it sound sick, im not a big fan of over producing albums.

[Jumpoff]

RZA and Busta are exec producers, Dr. Dre and Erick Sermon are two of the main producers for OB4CL2, I still think Red's flow was best in Malpractice, and he has said he is wanting to go back to more of his older sound. The main reason I like Dre is he can take a very simple beat and make it sound sick, im not a big fan of over producing albums.

The G-Funk sound has been played out since Regulators for me, thus the reason I barely listen to Dre anymore. Red's flow was best on Dare iz a Darcside for me... Personally, I don't want Busta, Dre, or Sermon to be producing a Raekwon album. I'd prefer it if he kept it in the Wu-Family instead of going to other people.

[Getup and Dance]

Hey I like the G-Funk sound.

[tfar06]

theres a g funk group produced by warren g, their single was round and round, i forget the artists tho

[tfar06]

the artist is the twinz, album is called conversation, i suggest you check that out if u like g funk

[ThisIsNotDan]

this is a long shot, but here I go... recently I was in a Macy's and a rap song was playing. it had a cool beat and I wanted to look it up when I got home, but to no avail. the only line I could remember from it...

"gimme back my lack of exercize, my extra side of french fries."

any guesses? sorry for being vague

[Jumpoff]

the artist is the twinz, album is called conversation, i suggest you check that out if u like g funk

Might as well check out CJ Mac also if you are looking for G-Funk

Speaking of West Coast Rappers, I wonder what happened to Domino and Ahmad.

[Getup and Dance]

Bump to tell everyone to listen to Brooklyn Zu, it was a pretty solid release.

[jtsnazzy]

Anyone listened to the new Lost children of babylon's release? Or the Chief Kamachi and Killah priest? Both are really solid, absolutely amazing lyrical performances on both counts.

[jtsnazzy]

Forgot to throw Sabac - The ritual into that. Awesome album.

[Getup and Dance]

Im bumpin this shit.


Listen to Suntonio bandanaz from Seattle.

[ThemChains]

This rapper A-Money from Richmond is fucking horrible.

[Jumpoff]

This rapper A-Money from Richmond is fucking horrible.

Most local rappers are terrible

[ThemChains]

Most local rappers are terrible

Unless you're local rappers are good. All of the rappers in the world are someone's local rapper.

[Getup and Dance]

Bump

Most local rappers are terrible

And Seattle has a solid local scene.

[gnartownpopyou]

Yes, The Cool Kids have a new mixtape every month, and it's always fly as the next. Still a group keeping it hood since they started, but on the subject of new "hip-hop" it's got to be A Tribe Called Quest, Bone Thugs N' Harmony, and Mobb Deep(The Infamous).

[Getup and Dance]

Yes, The Cool Kids have a new mixtape every month, and it's always fly as the next. Still a group keeping it hood since they started, but on the subject of new "hip-hop" it's got to be A Tribe Called Quest, Bone Thugs N' Harmony, and Mobb Deep(The Infamous).

So you consider groups from the 90's new hip hop?

[ThemChains]

Are the Cool Kids seriously pumping out a mixtape month?

[Getup and Dance]

Its the cool thing to do now.

[ThemChains]

I mean, I like the Bake Sale, but honestly, every month...you would get so stale. Especially with their style of hip-hop.