Leaving Romance

[Jason Tate]

The rumor (http://mychem.proboards33.com/index.cgi) is that Matt has been asked to leave My Chemical Romance.

[Bikeage]

damn.. wtf m8.. i wonder why

[Frank Giaramita]

wow, I really enjoy the drums in their songs. This sucks.

[popdisaster00]

i guess that means he's the drummer?

[adamh227]

wow, I really enjoy the drums in their songs. This sucks.

I always thought they had good drums too...bummer.

[WheresTheChorus]

supposedly it is because the other bandmates don't "feel comfortable" with him on stage because they are afraid he will mess up. and also because he won't use a click track. also, MCR already had another drummer lined up and they've been planning this for a few months now.

this is just what i've heard so don't take this as facts.

i hope this isn't true because he was a good drummer and it doesn't seem quite right to kick this guy out with such short notice. oh well...i guess we'll just have to wait for an official statement.

[Frank Giaramita]

supposedly it is because the other bandmates don't "feel comfortable" with him on stage because they are afraid he will mess up. and also because he won't use a click track. also, MCR already had another drummer lined up and they've been planning this for a few months now.

this is just what i've heard so don't take this as facts.

i hope this isn't true because he was a good drummer and it doesn't seem quite right to kick this guy out with such short notice. oh well...i guess we'll just have to wait for an official statement.

i fucking hate click tracks. A good drummer shouldn't need to play to one and it I feel it takes away from the rawness of some songs. I think a drummer should always have a little space to breath when it comes to tempo, especially live.

[ghostyouare]

Whats a click track?

[Jacktheskipper]

This is what Matt had to say on their message board (http://mychem.proboards33.com/index.cgi?board=MCR&action=display&num=1092302546) :

Hey guys its me Matt, im on rachel's screen name. I just wanna clear some things up with you all. I'm not looking for pity, im not looking for the band to bring me back becuase i dont think i could even play with them again for a million reasons. I just wanna say my side of the story,to you all personally before brian puts a post up sugarcoating or making light of what actually went down. Wheather or not you believe me is up to you. I got home 2 days ago from the most exciting 2 shows weve played in a while in japan, we all had an amazing time there. I get home the next day brian has a BIG BAND meeting i have to be there. I finally meet up for this band meeting, He was supposed to pick me up. Instead it was Ray and brian alone infront of my house . They told me to take a walk, and told me im out of the band becuase, "they are uncomfortable with me on stage they afraid ill mess up" ive had some whoppers on a few occasions ill never deny that im human we all make mistakes. Their other reasoning was i never wanted to use the click track (a device to help me play in perfect time). The only reason i never wanted to is becuase i truely believe no show should be perfect. If someone wanted a perfect show they'd listen to the cd. They said they've been planning this for a 2-3 months. They already have another drummer lined up. They never acted or implied that this was the plan in those 2 to 3 months. Just acted like they were my brothers. I still havent even heard from gerard since I saw him at the airport. I never got a band meeting to discuss this, just the boot for messing up.
Do i think ive been shafted? yeah. What i want to know though is what happened to the 5 brothers that loved eachother more then anyone else on earth, that noONE would come in between. I loved those brothers with all my heart, i would have gone down in a plain crash, taken the bullet for any of them. I gave up everything for each one of them. This is the thanx i get. Someone please tell me what happened to my best friends. Because they are lost.
Matt x-mcr
To all the fans I love you all more then you will know, you have made me feel that what i've gone through was worth it, you are my brothers now. godbless you all

[ghostyouare]

PS EVERY ONE download the park track thats being featured.

[Bikeage]

wtf are you talking about??? playing to a click track is extremely difficult. it's NOT something any drummer can just start playing to it, it takes timing/skill.. a click track gurantees that you're always on time and are playing the parts in tempo.. if your song is out of tempo at random parts, it sounds fucked up... why do you think they only use click tracks w/professional recordings??? No one's expecting him to put on headphones during a live show and have a click in the back, but the most successful live bands practice with a click. It makes you SO much tighter as a band its rediculous. We kicked our old drummer out cuz he coudlnt' do it at all (that and he wouldnt move down south), and once our new drummer got used to play it during practices, not only was his timing perfect (thats what drums are all about), but we could literally stop anytime during the song & all cut in back on the time beat because of it. if matt couldn't play to a click, it musta made recording a HELL of a lot harder, and sound more out of tempo..

ask ANY professional producer/drummer and they'll tell you that playing (rather practicing) with a click is fucking key... as a drummer, i thought you would have understood that (no offense)

[Brand New Shoe]

Matt was fucking awesome. FUCK MCR.

They should be called My Chemical Sellouts now. and this is/was my favorite band. but fuck, i dont like this. i dont like when band members get kicked out for no fucking reason. probley cause Otter didnt wanna dress like a fucking Vampire.

fuck MCR.

[Frank Giaramita]

wtf are you talking about??? playing to a click track is extremely difficult. it's NOT something any drummer can just start playing to it, it takes timing/skill.. a click track gurantees that you're always on time and are playing the parts in tempo.. if your song is out of tempo at random parts, it sounds fucked up... why do you think they only use click tracks w/professional recordings??? No one's expecting him to put on headphones during a live show and have a click in the back, but the most successful live bands practice with a click. It makes you SO much tighter as a band its rediculous. We kicked our old drummer out cuz he coudlnt' do it at all (that and he wouldnt move down south), and once our new drummer got used to play it during practices, not only was his timing perfect (thats what drums are all about), but we could literally stop anytime during the song & all cut in back on the time beat because of it. if matt couldn't play to a click, it musta made recording a HELL of a lot harder, and sound more out of tempo..

ask ANY professional producer/drummer and they'll tell you that playing (rather practicing) with a click is fucking key... as a drummer, i thought you would have understood that (no offense)

Its about 50/50 nowadays. Bands like Glassjaw, Thursday, Jenoah and Further seems forever do not play to click tracks bc their songs change time signatures and tempos. My taste in music does not permit click tracks, I prefer weird timing and changed signatures in songs, I don't like when something is too perfect, and I enjoy it when a song will slow up and up speed up into a different tempo. A drumemr should be their own click track and if you can't keep a steady beat and HAVE TO depend on a machine to do it for you, than something is wrong. Listen too Thursday's for the workforce drowning (at 1:54) and tell me that tempo change doesnt sound incredible. Listen too Thrusday's "Wind-up" from the intro to verse and you'll see that click tracks enable you to be "perfect" but sometimes perfection isnt what sounds best.

p.s.- ive asked my dad (who has been an accomplished drummer since the age of 11) how he felt about click tracks and he said he hates them. He said he could play to one easily but he doesnt like the feeling of not being able to let loose and break away sometimes. He said he feels slight speed up and slowdowns (notice i said SLIGHT) give the song a little bit of breathing room and allows certain parts to be accented more than others, almost all older drummers will say this, as well as older producers. My band has been produced by 4 (modern) producers and every single one of them have given us the option "click track or no click track". We've chosen no all 4 times bc our style of music and changing time signatures cant be held down by clicks.

[boysdontcry]

well everything i could've said about click tracks has been said already so i am going to leave it alone.

also this is a bummer if it's true because it really was nice to see a drummer in this type of music that kept it simple for the most part and just kept the beat instead of going off every two seconds (which is cool too, but it's just different kinds of drumming). whatever, i still like MCR's music but now i really don't know what to think of them as people.

[deathpop]

tucker from thursday uses a click live!

[deathpop]

holy shit and glassjaw had all of their drummer problems because of the click. ross always uses a click!

[Frank Giaramita]

tucker from thursday uses a click live!

yeah, on the new stuff I tihnk he uses a click. I know for the "waiting" and "full collapse" era's he didnt. The new stuff he might though, i dunno, i havent listened to "war all the time" enough bc i tihnk it's terrible :wink3:

[ParisInFlames55]

wtf are you talking about??? playing to a click track is extremely difficult. it's NOT something any drummer can just start playing to it, it takes timing/skill.. a click track gurantees that you're always on time and are playing the parts in tempo.. if your song is out of tempo at random parts, it sounds fucked up... why do you think they only use click tracks w/professional recordings??? No one's expecting him to put on headphones during a live show and have a click in the back, but the most successful live bands practice with a click. It makes you SO much tighter as a band its rediculous. We kicked our old drummer out cuz he coudlnt' do it at all (that and he wouldnt move down south), and once our new drummer got used to play it during practices, not only was his timing perfect (thats what drums are all about), but we could literally stop anytime during the song & all cut in back on the time beat because of it. if matt couldn't play to a click, it musta made recording a HELL of a lot harder, and sound more out of tempo..

ask ANY professional producer/drummer and they'll tell you that playing (rather practicing) with a click is fucking key... as a drummer, i thought you would have understood that (no offense)




i am quite impressed by your band. they are actually better then some of bands posted on this website. good job. and as for this, it really sucks when you kick a band member out. i am going to wait to hear the other side of the story before i take any sides though. good luck matt with future projects.

[Brett727272]

I'm just surprised that they wait until after writing the new material, releasing the new cd, and touring on it to decide to let him go.

[oShadowcaster]

Figures...the nicest guy in the group gets kicked out

[a&wrootbeer]

i fucking hate click tracks. A good drummer shouldn't need to play to one and it I feel it takes away from the rawness of some songs. I think a drummer should always have a little space to breath when it comes to tempo, especially live.

exactly, i dont use one when i drum and i dont know anyone else that does..there has to be another reason, the reasons they told him must not be all of them, it just seems to me there's more

[em0_stars]

wow, I really enjoy the drums in their songs. This sucks.

...aww man this sucks.

[tbscmoncmon]

no he doesnt troll

[straylighthaste]

dammit, i hate when these things happen...it's like just like the yellowcard thing. i don't know what the hell to think of them now. you don't just to that to your "brother", unless their side of the story says that they sat him down and talked with him a lot about it. does everyone else in the band play perfectly with no hitches? the only good that could come out of this is a new project from matt that i will support for sure.

[TheKill99]

Ok if anyone has seen mcr live they need more than a click track to help there live show. They are a great live band because it's not perfect. I saw these guys in a 3 car garage in natrona and it was awesome i think it's lame that they are getting rid of someone who has given up a couple years of his life to do this, especially now that people are starting to take notice. I have a feeling him not dressing up as alice cooper has something maybe to do with it. I love Mcr they are a good band but this seems sketchy

[anyone new york]

Yellowcard did it 3 times.

[PostRoman]

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[shadowxtears13]

wait.......... so it's true?!?!?!?

[rupture&rapture]

yeah, on the new stuff I tihnk he uses a click. I know for the "waiting" and "full collapse" era's he didnt. The new stuff he might though, i dunno, i havent listened to "war all the time" enough bc i tihnk it's terrible :wink3:
how could you say that its terrible? War all the time is alot better than full collapse, youre probably mad just because it doesnt have as much screaming as Full collapse.

[Seancore]

Yeah this is true.

Make sure you kids register when you go there.

[fftlisgoodstuff]

how could you say that its terrible? War all the time is alot better than full collapse, youre probably mad just because it doesnt have as much screaming as Full collapse.

i disagree. i love thursday so much but the newest album, "war all the time" just isn't up there with "full collapse" in my opinion. i won't say it's terrible though, because it isn't.

[Frank Giaramita]

how could you say that its terrible? War all the time is alot better than full collapse, youre probably mad just because it doesnt have as much screaming as Full collapse.

naaa, im just mad bc it lacks the catchiness and dynamics of full collapse. Geoff said it himself in an interview for Under the Volcano: "i miss the hooks and explosive parts that Full Collapse had, dont expect to be hearing the 'war all the time' sound out of us ever again, it was just a growing/experimental phase". I fully agree with his statement and I hope their next release (if they even have one) is as explosive, dynamic and energy filled as full collapse was.

p.s.- lemme rephrase my original statement:: "War all the time is terrible compared to Full Collapse".

[Coronary Parasite]

^^i disagree with the thursday stuff...

this is kind of depressing and i'm going to try to not let it change my opinion of the rest of the band members but, i feel bad that they could treat their "friend" that way, much love to you matt, i hope to hear music from you very very soon

[djUbilla]

That sucks about Matt. What terrible timing. Best of luck to him.

[yourprivateeye]

this is probably the worst news ive heard in awhile.
he drums insanly fast.
as a drummer myself, ive tryed to play along to their stuff, but couldnt.
ive always told myself i wanted to play single bass as fast as him.
hes one of my idols and its a shame hes not there anymore.

[surfwaxsideshow]

Fuck My Chemical Romance. This is easily easily one of the lamest things I've ever heard of a band doing. This guy is with you the whole time, you are getting FUCKING HUGE, and you kick out someone who is probably one of your best friends. Maybe I'll eat my words when the other side of the story comes out, but based upon this side of the story my little amount of respect for this band is completely gone.

And Full Collapse destroys all but a few songs on War All the Time.

[CROMagnon]

it is a sorry situation, but who can say if this isn't a change for the better, at least musically?

[surfwaxsideshow]

it is a sorry situation, but who can say if this isn't a change for the better, at least musically?

It would be one thing if they were a struggling band, but aren't they pretty successful now? They were doing fine as they were, why screw over someone who is basically their brother?

[CROMagnon]

It would be one thing if they were a struggling band, but aren't they pretty successful now? They were doing fine as they were, why screw over someone who is basically their brother?
well i always think of the saying "you have to murder your darlings"
you can't always afford to play favorites when you have a specific goal in mind
maybe doing "fine" isn't enough; maybe it's time to tighten up whatever loose threads there are

i'm not saying this is definitely the case, but if their new drummer is a better musician, and their new stuff just destroys their old stuff in that dept, then i can understand why they did what they did, since the music is all i'm concerned with
could they have handled it better, with more respect? i don't know for sure, but from the one side that we're hearing, probably
i'm just saying that i'm giving the band the benefit of the doubt and waiting for the results, instead of just making a snap judgement like "i'm never listening to them again, fuckin' mcr, that shit ain't right"

[rupture&rapture]

naaa, im just mad bc it lacks the catchiness and dynamics of full collapse. Geoff said it himself in an interview for Under the Volcano: "i miss the hooks and explosive parts that Full Collapse had, dont expect to be hearing the 'war all the time' sound out of us ever again, it was just a growing/experimental phase". I fully agree with his statement and I hope their next release (if they even have one) is as explosive, dynamic and energy filled as full collapse was.

p.s.- lemme rephrase my original statement:: "War all the time is terrible compared to Full Collapse".
alright well i guess i could understand the catchiness part but i dont think they tried to make War all the time catchy, geoff just wanted to make a more personal album then the others and if you read the lyrics they are absolutely amazing. Hopefully they will come out with another album, and if they break up i will devastated

[Frank Giaramita]

alright well i guess i could understand the catchiness part but i dont think they tried to make War all the time catchy, geoff just wanted to make a more personal album then the others and if you read the lyrics they are absolutely amazing. Hopefully they will come out with another album, and if they break up i will devastated

yeah, i love the lyrics from war all the time as well as full collapse. Anything Geoff writes is incredible.

[howtostartafire]

how could you say that its terrible? War all the time is alot better than full collapse, youre probably mad just because it doesnt have as much screaming as Full collapse.

that's just not true. Any true thursday fan (over the age of 17) will tell you that Full Collapse is their best album.

[CROMagnon]

nothing thursday does is bad
however, full collapse > watt

[Mouse]

Ah, shit. This sucks. He's an awesome drummer and I'll miss him. :(

I always feel shitty when a band kicks a member out. In this situation, I'm feeling shitty x100.

We'll always love the Otter.

[SingleDoubt]

nothing thursday does is bad
however, full collapse > watt
exactly. there's no way that war all the time can stack up to full collapse. i think their next album will surpass it though... if there is a next album :(

[raycer]

this happens every time a band member is asked to leave... the person who says his side first is always the victim (same thing in almost every situation like calling the cops, etc).

i think it's too early for any of you to condemn the band because you heard one side. not saying he's lying or anything, but you cant look at just one side and know what's going on.

anyone remember the midtown/dtr thing a few years back (living well is the best revenge.. hmm..)? yellowcard's first bassist (funny story btw)? saosin's old bassist? etc etc. when we first heard about these it was always like 'oh such and such is an asshole and blah blah blah blah.'

[starglorystar]

My personal opinion is that his drumming on "I Brought You My Bullets..." was so much better than his drumming on "Three Cheers...", but like I said thats my personal opinion and I'm not trying to take anything away from him, I always loved the drums in MCR.

[surfwaxsideshow]

this happens every time a band member is asked to leave... the person who says his side first is always the victim (same thing in almost every situation like calling the cops, etc).

i think it's too early for any of you to condemn the band because you heard one side. not saying he's lying or anything, but you cant look at just one side and know what's going on.

anyone remember the midtown/dtr thing a few years back (living well is the best revenge.. hmm..)? yellowcard's first bassist (funny story btw)? saosin's old bassist? etc etc. when we first heard about these it was always like 'oh such and such is an asshole and blah blah blah blah.'

Yellowcard's old bassist is far from a funny story. They are douches too.

[ADyingBreed]

its always bad news when a member of a band leaves, BUT in some cases it is for the better, i dont know the other side of the story, but their new drummer is ready to play the upcoming shows right? im seeing them with coheed on the 20th for the 92 cent show. if hes been lined up for months im sure hes ready.. right?

[SFmoo19]

On a side note, if you have ever talked to anybody in MCR (after a show or what-not), you would notice that Matt seems to not fit the personality profiles of the other members of the band. Maybe it's just the impression I got... twice... but initially when I heard he was being asked to leave, I thought it was a personality conflict. He just doesn't seem to fit in with the music they play.

Also, I don't really understand the whole click track thing. So, I'm not going to comment on that.

[oShadowcaster]

Matt doesn't fit in because he's a nice guy

[OurHeartAttack]

This is what Matt had to say on their message board (http://mychem.proboards33.com/index.cgi?board=MCR&action=display&num=1092302546) :

Hey guys its me Matt, im on rachel's screen name. I just wanna clear some things up with you all. I'm not looking for pity, im not looking for the band to bring me back becuase i dont think i could even play with them again for a million reasons. I just wanna say my side of the story,to you all personally before brian puts a post up sugarcoating or making light of what actually went down. Wheather or not you believe me is up to you. I got home 2 days ago from the most exciting 2 shows weve played in a while in japan, we all had an amazing time there. I get home the next day brian has a BIG BAND meeting i have to be there. I finally meet up for this band meeting, He was supposed to pick me up. Instead it was Ray and brian alone infront of my house . They told me to take a walk, and told me im out of the band becuase, "they are uncomfortable with me on stage they afraid ill mess up" ive had some whoppers on a few occasions ill never deny that im human we all make mistakes. Their other reasoning was i never wanted to use the click track (a device to help me play in perfect time). The only reason i never wanted to is becuase i truely believe no show should be perfect. If someone wanted a perfect show they'd listen to the cd. They said they've been planning this for a 2-3 months. They already have another drummer lined up. They never acted or implied that this was the plan in those 2 to 3 months. Just acted like they were my brothers. I still havent even heard from gerard since I saw him at the airport. I never got a band meeting to discuss this, just the boot for messing up.
Do i think ive been shafted? yeah. What i want to know though is what happened to the 5 brothers that loved eachother more then anyone else on earth, that noONE would come in between. I loved those brothers with all my heart, i would have gone down in a plain crash, taken the bullet for any of them. I gave up everything for each one of them. This is the thanx i get. Someone please tell me what happened to my best friends. Because they are lost.
Matt x-mcr
To all the fans I love you all more then you will know, you have made me feel that what i've gone through was worth it, you are my brothers now. godbless you all


Holy shit, that's terrible.

[Bikeage]

thanks to the guy who said that about my band, we try :p... i just can't wait to record our 2 newest songs, one is a huge musical step from what we ever weote before.... as for click tracks, i can understand the tempo changing thing live, but when you record i dont see why there isn't a reason why you wouldn't want to use them, after all you can stop the track lol...we don't use one now cuz our drummer is pretty amazing, but our old drummer wasn't always on time so we made him practice w/it (our singer drummed some songs on our newest epcuz our old one couln't lol)... we probably have the most tempo changes that the guy recorded lol (at one pont he said.. you guys get the award for most tempo changes lol... i dont think that was really a good thing htough haha)... but i can see where you're coming from about clicks (live)....and honestly i listen to WATT more than full collapse, and i'm over 17 lol.. i'd haveto say they're about even (listening to for the workforce, watt, and this song...just blows me away still every time)....