Senses Fail Pop Up

[BrandNew20]

Dear lord.

[Coronary Parasite]

i have a pop up blocker so i did not know about this but i just the thought sounds like the scariest horror movie ever

[The Bled 13]

What are you talking about?

[fullydownfan]

I'm assuming you saw a pop up for the band somewhere?

[scenesucks2]

I thought that he hated them, and wouldn't even type there name let alone advertise them...all cause of something that they never said, but I guess the bottm line is Tate does what the money tells him too. i'm glad he's growing up, maybe now he will post updates about them, kind of like TBS

[BrandNew20]

its on the website whenever I come here.

[The Bled 13]

A Senses Fail pop-up on AP.net? Are you sure?

[BrandNew20]

yeah dude, I've refreshed 4 times now and gotten it every single time...

[The Bled 13]

Hm, thats weird. I have never gotten one before but I don't know.

[Frank Giaramita]

its on the website whenever I come here.

WHATT!!? no way, tate wouldnt allow that.

[CROMagnon]

i'm getting number one fan

[BrandNew20]

WHATT!!? no way, tate wouldnt allow that.

refresh like 2 or 3 times, its there.

[Frank Giaramita]

jesus christ....THE WORLD IS FUCKING ENDING

[Coronary Parasite]

i got moments in grace

[CROMagnon]

holy shit you are right

[BrandNew20]

i got moments in grace

I got that once too...the other 5 times I got Senses Fail.

[Coronary Parasite]

like i said, very scary

[CROMagnon]

maybe it's just vagrant paying for ad space, and they decided to promote these fuckers

[BrandNew20]

there's a fucking guy with a gas mask, and another guy with his eyes rolled up into his head...its so hardcore. :wink3:

[BrandNew20]

maybe it's just vagrant paying for ad space, and they decided to promote these fuckers

could be, but has vagrant been living under a rock? thats worse than trying to promote avril here...

[Coronary Parasite]

what a terrible band this is my god

[Frank Giaramita]

someone "stab me one time" and "eat my heart out" bc i can't bare the site of a senses fail pop up every time i come in here.

[BrandNew20]

someone "stab me one time" and "eat my heart out" bc i can't bare the site of a senses fail pop up every time i come in here.

mind if I just rub you gently with a chainsaw and then make you die like jim morrison?

[CROMagnon]

could be, but has vagrant been living under a rock? thats worse than trying to promote avril here...
it doesn't matter, ads are ads, once an ad kit is set up i don't think they'll change it all too much to fit where it's going, ap.net can't be the only place with that pop-up

i mean, it's not like there aren't any sf fans here

[BrandNew20]

it doesn't matter, ads are ads, once an ad kit is set up i don't think they'll change it all too much to fit where it's going, ap.net can't be the only place with that pop-up

i mean, it's not like there aren't any sf fans here

true, I thought maybe jason was just doing it as a huge joke, like on April fools day...

[CROMagnon]

true, I thought maybe jason was just doing it as a huge joke, like on April fools day...
well that could also be it

[Frank Giaramita]

it doesn't matter, ads are ads, once an ad kit is set up i don't think they'll change it all too much to fit where it's going, ap.net can't be the only place with that pop-up

i mean, it's not like there aren't any sf fans here

yesterday, tate threatened to fire one of his staff members (no names mentioned) bc they posted about Senses fail....lemme repeat that...he threatened to FIRE a friend/staff member over a post about SF.

I cant see how he would allow a POP-UP with AUDIO on his website of them.

[Coronary Parasite]

yesterday, tate threatened to fire one of his staff members (no names mentioned) bc they posted about Senses fail....lemme repeat that...he threatened to FIRE a friend/staff member over a post about SF.

I cant see how he would allow a POP-UP with AUDIO on his website of them.
i have a good idea who he threatened

[Coronary Parasite]

so i guess that means no more senses fail posts again?

*prays*

[showerscene]

I'm just curious, why does Jason Tate hate Senses Fail so much? And also, wasn't there a post about their video for Buried A Lie like two days ago?

[Coronary Parasite]

I'm just curious, why does Jason Tate hate Senses Fail so much? And also, wasn't there a post about their video for Buried A Lie like two days ago?
they are awful people, and they surround themselves with awful people, and that is not hear say, it's personal experience

and it's not a "i met them and they were mean" kind of personal experience

as far as tate goes, they started making shit up about him publicly after treating him like crap personally

[showerscene]

Oooooooooooh...

[BrandNew20]

yeah, they called him a tool and said that they'd use him to sell a few records didn't they?

[Coronary Parasite]

yeah, they called him a tool and said that they'd use him to sell a few records didn't they?
tate even said that buddy used to call him up, drunk, at like 3 in the morning screaming for no reason

[BrandNew20]

tate even said that buddy used to call him up, drunk, at like 3 in the morning screaming for no reason

holy shit.

[Frank Giaramita]

tate even said that buddy used to call him up, drunk, at like 3 in the morning screaming for no reason

as if him screaming on a song isnt enough torture.

[Frank Giaramita]

I'm just curious, why does Jason Tate hate Senses Fail so much? And also, wasn't there a post about their video for Buried A Lie like two days ago?

yeha, and the staff member who posted that, was the one who was threatened by tate... :lipsrseal

[Coronary Parasite]

as if him screaming on a song isnt enough torture.
haha yeah i know

the sad thing is, i have the eca release of their first record, i want to sell it and don't know where to go


oh and i was right :)

[BrandNew20]

as if him screaming on a song isnt enough torture.

and those screams are properly protooled...

[Coronary Parasite]

and those screams are properly protooled...
haha oh my god i never even thought about that

poor tate

[CROMagnon]

yesterday, tate threatened to fire one of his staff members (no names mentioned) bc they posted about Senses fail....lemme repeat that...he threatened to FIRE a friend/staff member over a post about SF.

I cant see how he would allow a POP-UP with AUDIO on his website of them.
first off, it's clear who

second, he is in direct control of who works for his site, so getting rid of a staffer is something he can do; ads, however, aren't completely in his control, meaning he doesn't create them. it's vagrant who's making and paying for the ad, and if he and the record company have an existing deal, they can place pretty much what they want. after all, they pay for the space, content isn't always discussed beforehand

of course, it could be that he doesn't know it's there, and will deal with it when he gets word, but that's been my general experience with ads

[scenesucks2]

I think that Tate has made things more dramatic then they are...honestly all this site does is talk about them all the time, whether people hate them or not you have managed to help them by saying so much shit about them. No such things about bad publicity. How can Tate say that he doesn't get paid for this site, and also how can he say that his website is about shit talking when he has a forum just for shit talking. If you don't like the band then who cares, its one thing to be like oh there music is bad and another to consume your life with it. Lets just remember Tate doesn't like them for something that he thinks they implied in an interview??? IMPLIED...? ok Get over this band cause the more you talk the more interest people will have in them. Those who said Tate cannot take the content of ads on his website off cause they are already paid for are right...but it seems as if those who post regarding them are in the wrong, thats cool lets fire someone cause I don't like the person that they wrote about

[Atticus258]

i'm not getting it

[scenesucks2]

"DM: actually, on the topic of shit spreading: what's up about absolutepunk.net and senses fail?

G: Rumors again.

DM: is it just to stir shit up?

G: Probably. Everything on that site is mostly gossip. Buddy was just saying that sites like ap.net and shit are just promotion tools. That's what people pay Jason Tate for - to promote their bands on his site

DM: It's kind of sad, there's been a huge influx of people making webzines a) to get free CDs and b) to make money. The dark side of the internet...

G: It's just like high school, but on the internet and more efficient at spreading gossip

DM: Speaking of the internet, how do you think the internet's affected music today?

G: It's made shitty bands like puddle of mudd and limp bizkit go down the tubes like they should, and "scene" bands like us get big.

DM: Oh, c'mon, I'm going to be candid here…nu-metal was a phase, so how come people don't realize "punk" can be the same? …by that I mean dead as disco in 2 years.

G: I dunno, I think the relationship between "punk" bands and fans is more on a personal level then nu-metal. Nu-metal, in its prime, was just like rap...you sign any nu-metal band and they're all over radio and MTV. Forget about the size of the venues, look at NFG – they’re fucking huge but it’s still the same as when they were smaller."....there is more but i think thats all that matters(http://decoymusic.com/reviewscontent.php?review=70&type=1)


That is what Tate got mad about, the fact that he said bands use them as a promotional tool...really he should be pissed at the guy that did the interview, but beyond anything that was the hair that broke the camels back...

but lets just make it clear that people pay for advertisments on this site...and the forum is plain and simply a place to gossip

[piebaldkid42]

theres like 4 ads rotating:

senses fail
moments in grace
number one fan
hot rod circuit

and i personally dont mind getting the last 2 so much

[Jason Tate]

theres like 4 ads rotating:

senses fail
moments in grace
number one fan
hot rod circuit

and i personally dont mind getting the last 2 so much
Vagrant took out an ad for Hot Rod Circuit, I approved it. They booked, and paid.

http://www.vagrant.com/hrc_player/player.html

That's the link for the ecard they gave me, and HRC was up in it for a few days (as you may remember), and then they switched it out. Go check the link above, and notice that the URL is still for the HRC player, but the ecard inside is Senses Fail. Basically, legally, I can't do anything about it (ie, take it down). However, I have learned from this mistake, and added a new clause to all my ad contracts saying that not only do the original banners have to be approved by me, but all banners rotating into the website ALSO must be approved by me.

Basically, they caught a loophole, and sacrificed trust and part of our working relationship to get the pop up.

[Jason Tate]

first off, it's clear who

second, he is in direct control of who works for his site, so getting rid of a staffer is something he can do; ads, however, aren't completely in his control, meaning he doesn't create them. it's vagrant who's making and paying for the ad, and if he and the record company have an existing deal, they can place pretty much what they want. after all, they pay for the space, content isn't always discussed beforehand

of course, it could be that he doesn't know it's there, and will deal with it when he gets word, but that's been my general experience with ads
Basically, yep. You can read what happend above.

[The Bled 13]

Haha Vagrant is a fucking douchebag label. I actually side with Drive Thru for once. Fuck Vagrant. Those greedy cock suckers. And they are jumping on the bandwagon with three shitty ass wanna be Metal/Hardcore bands - FATA, Emanuel The Mexican and Senses Fail. Bastards.

[The Bled 13]

Most of their bands lick my left nut really hard. And I say my left becasue it hangs a little lower than the right one does. FUCK YOU VAGRANT AND FUCK YOUR SHITTY ASS BANDS I HOPE YOU COCK FISTERS READ THIS AND EAT MY FUCKING ASS.



Or at least I make your web page, that'd be nice.

[StartingLine182]

They must not be too smart. I mean I dont know for sure, but I'm almost certain ap.net helps a hell of a lot. And they screw over Tate, what a bunch of dumbasses.

[piebaldkid42]

Vagrant took out an ad for Hot Rod Circuit, I approved it. They booked, and paid.

http://www.vagrant.com/hrc_player/player.html

That's the link for the ecard they gave me, and HRC was up in it for a few days (as you may remember), and then they switched it out. Go check the link above, and notice that the URL is still for the HRC player, but the ecard inside is Senses Fail. They fucked me. Basically, legally, I can't do anything about it. However, I have learned from this mistake, and added a new clause to all my ad contracts saying that not only do the original banners have to be approved by me, but all banners rotating into the website ALSO must be approved by me.

Basically, they caught a loophole, and sacrificed their working relationship with me to get the pop up.
damn that sucks, especially since senses fail is horrible and the majority of people would much rather prefer to listen to HRC

[PunkDrums182]

I must say thats a shitty deal tate, that sux, but i love senses fail and i was really happy when i saw the pop up, but i know how you feel about it so sorry about that bullshit.

Ps i love senses fails' music but now from some stuff i've heard here about how they are i see why so many people dislike them (immensely..lol)

[Greg Thimmes]

I just threw away every thing that I had with the Vagrant logo on it, CDs/ T-shirts/Stickers pealed off my stuff. Im 100% anti VAGRANT at this moment!

[BrandNew20]

I just threw away every thing that I had with the Vagrant logo on it, CDs/ T-shirts/Stickers pealed off my stuff. Im not 100% anti VAGRANT!

you should still support Alkaline Trio and .moneen., they had nothing to do with this...

[KiT-KiT]

been getting em for about a week now :s but when i run pop-upblocker is allright so no worries :P

[Greg Thimmes]

Ill support Alkaline Trio, Thats about it....

[robdobi]

but i love senses fail and i was really happy when i saw the pop up

i'll disregard the first statement, but really happy to see a pop up? thats like being excited to see a stop sign.

you people really need to learn to use mozilla firefox (http://www.mozilla.com) , i haven't seen a pop up in 6 months.

[The Silencer]

Ill support Alkaline Trio, Thats about it....
how could you not give it up for moneen

[em0_stars]

whats wrong with it just x it out its that simple

[SomePerson22]

how could you not give it up for moneen
or saves the day, who are 10x better than moneen. (i like moneen too though)

[BrandNew20]

or saves the day, who are 10x better than moneen. (i like moneen too though)

I don't really consider Saves The Day a Vagrant band anymore though...

[Greg Thimmes]

or saves the day, who are 10x better than moneen. (i like moneen too though)

Yes this is true, Im just rambling at this point. Im just not understanding all this drama at the moment. Its not the bands fault, well I bet someone had something to do with it.

[getupkid619]

im sorry tate thats fucked up. but still the website is awesome any ways so dont sweat it!

[Jake Wallace]

i'll disregard the first statement, but really happy to see a pop up? thats like being excited to see a stop sign.

i've said it before and i'll say it again... i love rob dobi!

[SomePerson22]

I don't really consider Saves The Day a Vagrant band anymore though...
well, they are releasing their next album on vagrant. so i still kind of do.

[TylerH03eXc]

download the google toolbar, you'll never see a pop up again unless u download an awful lot of porn

[boysdontcry]

well, i support....

REGGIE AND THE FULL EFFECT
dashboard
alkaline trio
audio learning center
the get up kids
saves the day
the new amsterdams
hot rod circuit
face to face
hey mercedes
no motiv
paul westerberg
rocket from the crypt
viva death

these bands i kind of hope all die in a horrible shipwreck in the middle of the pacific...
senses fail
FATA
emanuel
moneen

so basically i love the majority of vagrants roster. i hate 4 bands. i honestly don't care about the label as long as i get to hear good music.

[BrandNew20]

well, they are releasing their next album on vagrant. so i still kind of do.

what the hell happened with Dreamworks?

[absolution]

This isn't very surprising. Vagrant is ridiculously shady, i mean, afterall, they are owned 49% by Interscope. Lets face it guys, they aren't independent! And even though it kind of sucks to say it, liking Vagrant Records is like rooting for Big Business or the Yankees.

[+adamo/videos__]

Tate,

Vagrant Records are pretty fucking clever for that one. You have to give it up, they found a loophole and took advantage of it.

Honestly, with the Richard (DTR) interview I read earlier, and now this, I'm quickly learning that Vagrant Records only care about promotion and cash.

<33marc

[boysdontcry]

what the hell happened with Dreamworks?
well did you see "anywhere with you" on MTV every two seconds? exactly. the label thought they would do insanely well on a major (pretty much due to the success of "freakish"), but it didn't really turn out that way.

[lovenotwar_rx]

I got a Number One Fan e-card thingy...thank god.

[BrandNew20]

well did you see "anywhere with you" on MTV every two seconds? exactly. the label thought they would do insanely well on a major (pretty much due to the success of "freakish"), but it didn't really turn out that way.

true, I just didn't know that they dropped them for it...

[Jason Tate]

I talked to Vagrant, I talked to Buddy, and to be honest, I'm just over it. I learned a valuable lesson, and I learned how to prevent it from happening in the future. I'm jaded, but wiser. I'm gonna just let this die now ... (that's why I deleted the post off the main page)

[boysdontcry]

I talked to Vagrant, I talked to Buddy, and to be honest, I'm just over it. I learned a valuable lesson, and I learned how to prevent it from happening in the future. I'm jaded, but wiser. I'm gonna just let this die now ... (that's why I deleted the post off the main page)
it looks like you are embracing the true daoist way and following a pacifist path.

[robdobi]

here is my senses fail story that i will post until everyone hears it.

i went to see on the might of princes play a show at a polish hall in the middle of the woods in CT about 2 years ago. there were about 5 opening bands, senses fail starting the show.

i sat near them outside and listened in on them dropping some musical knowlege, one of them shared his thoughts on ska... "i don't like ska, but i like less than jake and reel big fish."

ok, that makes about as much sense as saying "i don't like pop punk, but i like nfg and fall out boy".

anyway, this is a local DIY show, and their first time ever playing CT, and like any small hall show, it wasn't exactly filled to capacity. when they were initially booked on the show they weren't even signed to drive thru yet, by the time the show rolled around the announcement had been made a few days prior about their signing.

was anyone there to see them? nope. did they make an attempt to win over anyone? nope.

multiple times during the set buddy said "normally we go a little more crazy, but... you know."

did they play fine? sure, but making comments like that inbetween almost every song is totally uncalled for. i don't care who you are or what label you are on, the bands i admire the most are the ones who put on the same performance for 30 kids as they would 3000.

after their set they drove back to NJ in two suvs.

[boysdontcry]

after their set they drove back to NJ in two suvs.
were they bomb proof? because i heard buddy is quitting senses fail to join g-unit.

[+adamo/videos__]

wait, you talked to both Vagrant and Senses Fail?

how did they respond, and what was their excuse for switching e-cards?

those bastards. haha.

[PunkDrums182]

i'll disregard the first statement, but really happy to see a pop up? thats like being excited to see a stop sign.

you people really need to learn to use mozilla firefox (http://www.mozilla.com) , i haven't seen a pop up in 6 months.


I was happy because i heard two new songs :-)

[Jason Tate]

About the pop-ups: I'm thinking of releasing an "ad-free" version of AP .. not sure how to set it all up though ... thoughts? Ideas?

[boysdontcry]

well, that's pretty much how www.fuckabsolutepunk.net did things. i liked the concept of that site, i didn't like how they went about doing it.

[mwhpunk]

About the pop-ups: I'm thinking of releasing an "ad-free" version of AP .. not sure how to set it all up though ... thoughts? Ideas?
then why would anyone go to the non"ad-free" version??

[SilverStar89]

then why would anyone go to the non"ad-free" version??
Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

[boysdontcry]

i miss the absolutepunk e-zine... if anyone cares.

[Jason Tate]

then why would anyone go to the non"ad-free" version??
well, it would obviously have to be a subscriber only sort of thing (like how deviantart.com) has it set up.

[BrandNew20]

well, it would obviously have to be a subscriber only sort of thing (like how deviantart.com) has it set up.

personally speaking, the ads don't bother me to the point where I would want to pay money to view AP, but thats just me...

but then again, if joining the other version brought more priviliges than just being able to access an ad free site, I'd think about it.

[Jason Tate]

personally speaking, the ads don't bother me to the point where I would want to pay money to view AP, but thats just me...

but then again, if joining the other version brought more priviliges than just being able to access an ad free sight, I'd think about it.
Yah, I'm more thinking outloud than anything. I'm tired, hungry, and it's hot as hell .. haahaha...

[boysdontcry]

but then again, if joining the other version brought more priviliges than just being able to access an ad free sight, I'd think about it.
yeah, like live chats with nude supermodels and online group therapy.

[BrandNew20]

yeah, like live chats with nude supermodels and online group therapy.

exactly.

[Billy]

Vagrant took out an ad for Hot Rod Circuit, I approved it. They booked, and paid.

http://www.vagrant.com/hrc_player/player.html

That's the link for the ecard they gave me, and HRC was up in it for a few days (as you may remember), and then they switched it out. Go check the link above, and notice that the URL is still for the HRC player, but the ecard inside is Senses Fail. Basically, legally, I can't do anything about it (ie, take it down). However, I have learned from this mistake, and added a new clause to all my ad contracts saying that not only do the original banners have to be approved by me, but all banners rotating into the website ALSO must be approved by me.

Basically, they caught a loophole, and sacrificed trust and part of our working relationship to get the pop up.
Well I must apologize now for what I said. I was wrong. Gives me a new outlook on Vagrant.

[piebaldkid42]

the pop ups really dont bother me that much.
lately i actually like coming to the site a lot more because there's 3 or 4 circulating. i remember getting that story of the year pop up every single fricken time coming to that site and it drove me nuts, but since there's some variety now i dont really mind at all

[Frank Giaramita]

Well I must apologize now for what I said. I was wrong. Gives me a new outlook on Vagrant.

I respect you a lot, very few people on here actually have the nuts to apologize when they say something wrong. Salute to you and best of luck with knifeparty.com

[robdobi]

my least favorite pop ups were the jamison parker and the cauterize ones...

"i wonder where you are......"

[Frank Giaramita]

"i don't like ska, but i like less than jake and reel big fish."

ok, that makes about as much sense as saying "i don't like pop punk, but i like nfg and fall out boy".

I really do not consider Less than jake's new stuff ska. Half of the songs dont even have horns and the ones that do are strictly power chords and basic drum beats and chord progressions. reel big fish on the other hand...

p.s.- on the might of princes OWNED, BIG TIME. Major props on that.

[Coronary Parasite]

my least favorite pop ups were the jamison parker and the cauterize ones...

"i wonder where you are......"
i loved the cauterize one, but still, pop up blocker, everyone needs one

[Frank Giaramita]

About the pop-ups: I'm thinking of releasing an "ad-free" version of AP .. not sure how to set it all up though ... thoughts? Ideas?

WOW, that would shut "fuckabsolutepunk.net" up. They might even have to resort to making their OWN web-zine, based on their own creativity and ideas.
PLEASE...DO IT...IM BEGGING YOU.

[Coronary Parasite]

WOW, that would shut "fuckabsolutepunk.net" up. They might even have to resort to making their OWN web-zine, based on their own creativity and ideas.
PLEASE...DO IT...IM BEGGING YOU.
you are definately one of my favorite people here

[PunkDrums182]

well, it would obviously have to be a subscriber only sort of thing (like how deviantart.com) has it set up.
would i be able to subscribe and still get ads?

[boysdontcry]

would i be able to subscribe and still get ads?
did the point of this just completely go over your head?

[Coronary Parasite]

did the point of this just completely go over your head?
haha i was thinking the same thing but i'm a sweetheat so i didn't want to be mean

[PunkDrums182]

did the point of this just completely go over your head?

yea but im saying maybe if there is other subscriber things, but i wanted the ads enabled, like say subscribing meant you got access to a special forum or something

[PunkDrums182]

i love senses fail, it really pisses me off to find out that they are dicks, but i still love their music, but some people say that they arent..

[scenesucks2]

i love senses fail, it really pisses me off to find out that they are dicks, but i still love their music, but some people say that they arent..

Find out for yourself dude, make your own judgements...