Love triangle weird-ness.

[spansen]

This girl I've had a crush on for years told me last week she's always had a thing for me, and that her mom loves me and always told her to make a move.. but she never did, as she didn't know I felt something too, and she didn't want to force something and make things awkward.. So.. A month ago she met a friend of mine who I've known since 5th grade, and... She's sort of, but not really dating him. They're definitely not official or anything..

So, now we're all in this weird mess.. My friend doesn't know she has feelings for me, but knows she and I hang out.. She stayed the night this past weekend and he was cool with it: again, he thinks we're just friends.

Anyway, I leave town for school in a little more than a week.. So nothing too serious will amount from all of this, at least not for a while... She's looking to move to Indianapolis soon, which is closer to me than him, as I'll be an hour away while he's twice as far and always broke.. So eventually something might actually happen.

This weekend she told me she's never been on a 'real' date, where the guy paid for her, ya know? So, since she presently has no cell phone, and doesn't get on AIM too much or anything, I have no route to contact her except for myspace, which she still doesn't check too often, but it's there for her to see.. So, I left a message to her saying, hey, let's go on a date, I'll cover your costs, but I want a kiss..

We've been holding hands, cuddling, and kissing places other than the mouth, as I don't mean any disrespect to my old friend.. But, it's the end of summer now, and I really want to kiss her.


... Now here's the part where you all say I'm a terrible friend. ;-)

... But, in all honesty, what would you do?

[pinkluv13]

sounds liek she wants a free meal.

but in all seriousness...if you like her that much go for it. your friend should understand.

[goodnews]

at first i thought the love triangle was between you, this girl, and her mom

[4N6 science]

I wouldn't have said in the message I'll cover your costs but I want a kiss cause that sounds like you're bargaining with her. Just be assertive and make your move.

[spansen]

sounds liek she wants a free meal.

but in all seriousness...if you like her that much go for it. your friend should understand.

Well, it wouldn't be out for dinner, if that's what you mean. She really wants to see Pineapple Express, so it'd just be to a movie.. But, yeah. I want to actually kiss her at least once before summer's up..

at first i thought the love triangle was between you, this girl, and her mom

lolz

[spansen]

I wouldn't have said in the message I'll cover your costs but I want a kiss cause that sounds like you're bargaining with her. Just be assertive and make your move.
Well, right now, like I said, we are doing SOME things, but we're refraining from kisses on the lips.. Because, out of respect to my friend I didn't want to push myself too far, really. But, at this point I really just want to kiss her..

So, it's not so much a bargain. Just.. We both want to see it, I don't have a problem with covering her ticket even as a friend.. But, it's just an offer, and a way to potentially get that kiss.

[4N6 science]

Well, right now, like I said, we are doing SOME things, but we're refraining from kisses on the lips.. Because, out of respect to my friend I didn't want to push myself too far, really. But, at this point I really just want to kiss her..

So, it's not so much a bargain. Just.. We both want to see it, I don't have a problem with covering her ticket even as a friend.. But, it's just an offer, and a way to potentially get that kiss.

yeah I understand what you were trying to do..Just sometimes it's better to not let the girl in on the plan either. But I wish you the best of luck.

[spansen]

Ha.. Well, a friend of mine thought it was a cute idea, so I stuck with it.

And, thanks, hopefully I get it!

[4N6 science]

If you're confident you will cause its obvious you guys are close based on your story.

[spansen]

I am definitely comfortable with her, so I'd like to hope so.

[4N6 science]

well that's good I've learned that confidence can go a long way.

[goodnews]

i faced a similar dilemma in the seventh grade

[morgz]

that message sounds adorable. if i told a guy i liked him and i had been hanging around him alot that message would definitely make me smile. about you being a bad friend...you did like her first. did you ever tell your friend you liked her? and if she's into you why is she bothering with another guy?

[spansen]

i faced a similar dilemma in the seventh grade

Cool?... Ha. did you dick over your friend too?

[spansen]

that message sounds adorable. if i told a guy i liked him and i had been hanging around him alot that message would definitely make me smile. about you being a bad friend...you did like her first. did you ever tell your friend you liked her? and if she's into you why is she bothering with another guy?

Well, we hadn't seen each other at all this summer until last week, and they met in that lapse.. And.. I don't know. And, nope, he doesn't know she and I have any ideas at all past friendship.

[4N6 science]

that message sounds adorable. if i told a guy i liked him and i had been hanging around him alot that message would definitely make me smile. about you being a bad friend...you did like her first. did you ever tell your friend you liked her? and if she's into you why is she bothering with another guy?

I'm sorry I must go off topic and say that your avatar is pretty gross.. I double taked cause I thought it was an octopus at first.

[morgz]

well unfortunently, if she likes you and you like her then it looks like your friend is out of luck. maybe you should come clean with him though. hopefully he's not madly in love with her or anything

[morgz]

I'm sorry I must go off topic and say that your avatar is pretty gross.. I double taked cause I thought it was an octopus at first.

nope. its a lil girl!

[4N6 science]

nope. its a lil girl!

yeah I remember hearing about her on the news..

[argg_xo]

i'd give you a kiss if you paid for the date.

[spansen]

well unfortunently, if she likes you and you like her then it looks like your friend is out of luck. maybe you should come clean with him though. hopefully he's not madly in love with her or anything
Ha, but I don't want to!

I leave soon, so nothing really will come of it until she moves, probably.. And I don't want to win the coveted Worst Friend of the Year Award. ha

[4N6 science]

i'd give you a kiss if you paid for the date.

woah.. I thought we were an item on here!

[spansen]

i'd give you a kiss if you paid for the date.
But would you cover my gas-cash to get there? Ha

[argg_xo]

woah.. I thought we were an item on here!

whoa. i don't remember being exclusive on the internet. my bad? and it's just a kiss!

[argg_xo]

But would you cover my gas-cash to get there? Ha

i'll mail you a greyhound bus ticket......

[4N6 science]

whoa. i don't remember being exclusive on the internet. my bad? and it's just a kiss!

yeah I see where this is going...

yeah I don't remember the exclusive thing I just said it.

[spansen]

i'll mail you a greyhound bus ticket......
Good enough!

I'm surprised I didn't get any angry posts in this thread yet.

[anamericangod]

If she has a thing for you but is dating your friend, she's probably a whore.

Get tested and then go find a new girl.

[argg_xo]

yeah I see where this is going...

yeah I don't remember the exclusive thing I just said it.

but you're my only booberry!!! lol.

[4N6 science]

but you're my only booberry!!! lol.

I know.. but what's next for booberry?

[MidCal]

i'd give you a kiss if you paid for the date.

You should really specify where you'd be willing to give said kiss. Things could get ugly.

[CTMarshall]

well...the friend is obviously not too smart if he is gonna let his new girlfriend stay at your house for a night. I think that means that you're getting the "go ahead"...maybe..maybe not.

[argg_xo]

You should really specify where you'd be willing to give said kiss. Things could get ugly.

on the cheek for the first date. i should have specified, huh.

[spansen]

If she has a thing for you but is dating your friend, she's probably a whore.

Get tested and then go find a new girl.
Ha. We haven't had sex, and she hasn't had sex with my friend either.

No need to get tested. We've both only had sex with one person. I don't know why she and I talked about that, among other things, this past weekend.

[argg_xo]

I know.. but what's next for booberry?

ummm, a drunken phone call? :shrug:

[4N6 science]

ummm, a drunken phone call? :shrug:

yes.. but you have to do it when I'm drunk too so we can talk about explicit things and then not remember the next day.

[spansen]

You should really specify where you'd be willing to give said kiss. Things could get ugly.
HA!

well...the friend is obviously not too smart if he is gonna let his new girlfriend stay at your house for a night. I think that means that you're getting the "go ahead"...maybe..maybe not.
Ha, well, she doesn't really have a home right now.. So she's just sort of crashing at a friend's house right now anyway, and to the best of my friend's knowledge we are only friends.

[anamericangod]

Ha. We haven't had sex, and she hasn't had sex with my friend either.

No need to get tested. We've both only had sex with one person. I don't know why she and I talked about that, among other things, this past weekend.

You need to penetrate her. Tonight, preferably.

[argg_xo]

yes.. but you have to do it when I'm drunk too so we can talk about explicit things and then not remember the next day.

i guess we'll just have to coordinate our schedules on night.....

[spansen]

You need to penetrate her. Tonight, preferably.
Ha.. Well, I have no idea where she is right now.. And I'll be asleep within another hour or two.

[4N6 science]

i guess we'll just have to coordinate our schedules on night.....

oh we will.. you can count on that.

[anamericangod]

Ha.. Well, I have no idea where she is right now.. And I'll be asleep within another hour or two.

Find her. Sex her.

[argg_xo]

oh we will.. you can count on that.

oh boy! i can't wait!

[4N6 science]

oh boy! i can't wait!

haha its gonna be hard to top the vomit call though.

[spansen]

haha its gonna be hard to top the vomit call though.
Ha.. That'd be a good phone call.

I talked this situation over with my best friend tonight.. and as I walked inside, and he off to his motorcycle.. I puked.

[4N6 science]

Ha.. That'd be a good phone call.

I talked this situation over with my best friend tonight.. and as I walked inside, and he off to his motorcycle.. I puked.

here's my story:
well I was riding the train home form DC last weekend and talking to Argg_xo (chelsea) on the phone and my friend was sick and all of a sudden puke was on my lap and on the floor.

[spansen]

Gross.

[argg_xo]

it was gross and hilarious.

[4N6 science]

hahahahha yeah.. I put a newspaper over the mess on the train it was nice.

[argg_xo]

it was ghetto fab.

[4N6 science]

yeah rolling off the train at 2 am with vomit on my clothes..

[spansen]

And I'm sure the cabin, or seat, smelled awful. Always a good time.

[argg_xo]

yeah rolling off the train at 2 am with vomit on my clothes..
but you got to talk to me!!

[4N6 science]

And I'm sure the cabin, or seat, smelled awful. Always a good time.

surprising not, though its a big subway car

but you got to talk to me!!

I know and I really enjoyed that... when do I get my kiss?

[argg_xo]

surprising not, though its a big subway car



I know and I really enjoyed that... when do I get my kiss?
ummmm, you haven't paid for my dinner yet!

[4N6 science]

ummmm, you haven't paid for my dinner yet!

ohh that's easy. I can do that..

[argg_xo]

ohh that's easy. I can do that..
c'mon jon! i at least want a dinner out of this deal.

[4N6 science]

c'mon jon! i at least want a dinner out of this deal.

and I will grant your wish. If I see you ever, I will buy you a dinner.

[argg_xo]

and I will grant your wish. If I see you ever, I will buy you a dinner.
an IHOP dinner please.

[MidCal]

ummmm, you haven't paid for my dinner yet!

ohh that's easy. I can do that..

c'mon jon! i at least want a dinner out of this deal.

and I will grant your wish. If I see you ever, I will buy you a dinner.

If your friend had to listen to this, I can't blame him for vomiting. :-d

[4N6 science]

an IHOP dinner please.

no problem.

If your friend had to listen to this, I can't blame him for vomiting. :-d

hahahahha good one. He threw up because he couldn't hold his alcohol like the champ he proclaimed himself to be.

[argg_xo]

If your friend had to listen to this, I can't blame him for vomiting. :-d
actually the phone call went like this:
*ring ring* "hi chelsea! OH MY GOD YOU JUST VOMITED ALL OVER ME!!!!!!!!!!"

[MidCal]

no problem.



hahahahha good one. He threw up because he couldn't hold his alcohol like the champ he proclaimed himself to be.

Figures, the ones that talk the biggest games are usually the first ones out. I would pay to hear your reaction once you realized what had happened. That must have been priceless.

[MidCal]

actually the phone call went like this:
*ring ring* "hi chelsea! OH MY GOD YOU JUST VOMITED ALL OVER ME!!!!!!!!!!"
lol awesome. i would of died laughing. what a way to start a phone call.

[argg_xo]

lol awesome. i would of died laughing. what a way to start a phone call.
it was like 1 a.m. and i was cracking up! that was the best phone call all weekend.

[4N6 science]

Figures, the ones that talk the biggest games are usually the first ones out. I would pay to hear your reaction once you realized what had happened. That must have been priceless.

I jumped up and just walked around the train car saying I couldn't believe I was just thrown up on..

[thesafeword]

Fuck her.

[spansen]

that was original. good one.

[argg_xo]

I jumped up and just walked around the train car saying I couldn't believe I was just thrown up on..
i think it was more like, "OH MY GOD YOU JUST THREW UP ON ME!!! DUDE! YOU JUST THREW UP ALL OVER ME!! YOU OWE ME 20 BUCKS!"

[4N6 science]

i think it was more like, "OH MY GOD YOU JUST THREW UP ON ME!!! DUDE! YOU JUST THREW UP ALL OVER ME!! YOU OWE ME 20 BUCKS!"

ohh right, he owed me 20 because he didn't get the waitress' number at the bar.

[argg_xo]

ohh right, he owed me 20 because he didn't get the waitress' number at the bar.
i think you explained that to me in between the vomiting fiasco.

[4N6 science]

i think you explained that to me in between the vomiting fiasco.

I must have because I told him 20 times he wouldn't get her number no matter what he tried

[argg_xo]

I must have because I told him 20 times he wouldn't get her number no matter what he tried
did he ever pay up?

[4N6 science]

did he ever pay up?

naw after I saw his condition I didn't want the money.

[argg_xo]

naw after I saw his condition I didn't want the money.

hahaha. i would make him pay up in drinks or wings next time.

[spansen]

i like how incredibly off-topic this thread has gone. oh well.

[4N6 science]

hahaha. i would make him pay up in drinks or wings next time.

it was a stupid bet because I knew he'd never get the number.

[argg_xo]

it was a stupid bet because I knew he'd never get the number.

hahaha. maybe you should try betting on something else next time.

[SgtSmegma]

at first i thought the love triangle was between you, this girl, and her mom

Would have made the story exponentially better.

[thesafeword]

that was original. good one.
Serious advice.

[DannySniper]

Do the mother.

If she is hot

[Biliard]

Would have made the story exponentially better.

It is what I was hoping for.

[SLoT]

at first i thought the love triangle was between you, this girl, and her mom
This happened to my brother.

[mattmatumbo]

i had a similar experience with the end of your dilemma. my story is too long to get into, but we never ended up hooking up even though we were both single after 2 years of being in relationships. the last night i was in town we hung out for 4 hours, she ended up sneaking out of her house to come hang. we had a pretty sweet fucking night. and then when she gave me a chance to kiss her, i told her i loved her and hugged her. weakest thing i EVER did.

[64 % chance]

at first i thought the love triangle was between you, this girl, and her mom

so did i, after i realized it wasnt i stopped reading

[Willy McFurgle]

Do the mother.

If she is hot

Do the mother and daughter in the same day,

who cares if the moms hot, you can tell the story any way you want

[spansen]

....and then when she gave me a chance to kiss her, i told her i loved her and hugged her. weakest thing i EVER did.
It left something to the imagination? heh

[eHaMpToN]

suckin' on ma titties like ya wanted me callin' me

[Bites the Dust]

if you see a faded sign at the side of the road that says 15 miles to the loooooovvvveee shaaaaccckkkk

[amo.]

Well, right now, like I said, we are doing SOME things, but we're refraining from kisses on the lips.. Because, out of respect to my friend I didn't want to push myself too far, really. But, at this point I really just want to kiss her..

So, it's not so much a bargain. Just.. We both want to see it, I don't have a problem with covering her ticket even as a friend.. But, it's just an offer, and a way to potentially get that kiss.

:nono: my ex did this with a girl and when i found out that they were doing that with someone else besides me, i was really mad. uncool.

[mynameisX]

Do the mother and daughter in the same day,

who cares if the moms hot, you can tell the story any way you want


If you're telling the story any way you want, why not anal them both in a hot air balloon?

[spansen]

:nono: my ex did this with a girl and when i found out that they were doing that with someone else besides me, i was really mad. uncool.
Well, as uncool as it is, they're not actually boyfriend/girlfriend. There is no title, and I don't envision there really ever being one, knowing the guy as long as I have.

[dontsneeze]

you are thinking about this way too much.

[DannySniper]

Do the mother and daughter in the same day,

who cares if the moms hot, you can tell the story any way you want

I wish I did a mother.

[failingwithease]

Well, as uncool as it is, they're not actually boyfriend/girlfriend. There is no title, and I don't envision there really ever being one, knowing the guy as long as I have.

Did you say you said something to your friend about it?

[Willy McFurgle]

If you're telling the story any way you want, why not anal them both in a hot air balloon?

Booya! thats what i'm speaking about.

[Willy McFurgle]

I wish I did a mother.

someday, you just might.

[DannySniper]

someday, you just might.

Your child's mother?

[Willy McFurgle]

Your child's mother?

No, my dream of my child's mother was shattered when the once proud group of PFF's was destroyed, DAMN YOU SLoT!

[DannySniper]

No, my dream of my child's mother was shattered when the once proud group of PFF's was destroyed, DAMN YOU SLoT!

This damage cannot be undone.

[Willy McFurgle]

This damage cannot be undone.

*tear

[DannySniper]

*tear

Hey, come on now.

Real men don't cry.

Keep your chin up, lah.

[Willy McFurgle]

Hey, come on now.

Real men don't cry.

Keep your chin up, lah.

There's no cryin in baseball, i just gotta keep telling myself that.

[DannySniper]

There's no cryin in PFF break-up's, i just gotta keep telling myself that.

That's the spirit, lad.

[Willy McFurgle]

That's the spirit, lad.

I'll be strong.

[DannySniper]

I'll be strong.

You're an inspiration to us all.

[spansen]

Did you say you said something to your friend about it?
Nope, he knows nothin'.

[JJJ]

at first i thought the love triangle was between you, this girl, and her mom

that would be awesome.

[failingwithease]

Nope, he knows nothin'.

Then you're being a cock and I think you know it.

[spansen]

Nope, I was, as I already said, restraining myself, as was she.

And, she responded to my message (she doesn't have a phone right now, so internet is the way to get a hold of her):

im sorry. but i want to respect
your friendship with him, and
my relationship with him, as
well. (whatever that may be..
im still not quite sure.) but
when can you hangout?

[4N6 science]

interesting..

[mynameisX]

Nope, I was, as I already said, restraining myself, as was she.

And, she responded to my message (she doesn't have a phone right now, so internet is the way to get a hold of her):


The plot thickens...

[4N6 science]

The plot thickens...

indeed it does..

[goodnews]

if she knew you were telling the whole world about this she'd definitely think you're a creeper

[spansen]

doesn't that sort of go hand-in-hand with almost every thread in the personal life section?

[failingwithease]

Nope, I was, as I already said, restraining myself, as was she.


Kissing everywhere but the mouth just to pretend like you aren't doing anything sketchy is not restraint - it's just a ploy to make yourselves feel like you aren't being shitty, which you are.

[spansen]

ouch.

[swt_catastrophe]

at first i thought the love triangle was between you, this girl, and her mom
ditto.
if she knew you were telling the whole world about this she'd definitely think you're a creeper
hahahaha.
doesn't that sort of go hand-in-hand with almost every thread in the personal life section?
oh the PL section.
endless entertainment.
Kissing everywhere but the mouth just to pretend like you aren't doing anything sketchy is not restraint - it's just a ploy to make yourselves feel like you aren't being shitty, which you are.
ouch.
and yeah, i agree.
but seriously, i don't think he actually means everywhere but the mouth
just.. a lot of places, and not the mouth.
so that's a little better.

anyway.. updates?

[spansen]

anywhere but the mouth equated to: shoulder, arm, hand, cheek...

but, the 'update' is on this page, ashley.

[swt_catastrophe]

anywhere but the mouth equated to: shoulder, arm, hand, cheek...

but, the 'update' is on this page, ashley.
okay, so i have a dirty mind.
sue me.
neck kisses are the best kisses.

hah. yes it is.
thanks for that.

[spansen]

okay, so i have a dirty mind.
sue me.
neck kisses are the best kisses.

hah. yes it is.
thanks for that.
ha, see.. we were still keeping it pretty innocent. it was essentially just flirting at that level, still.

she called me after she messaged me and wants to hang out soon, and to "talk".. ha. i could fill her in on some things regarding my friend jeremy, but i don't really want to.. aka that he plans on leaving town within about two months to pursue his career, his drug habits, etc. ha.. all of which she doesn't know, but will i guess find out on her own soon enough should they work out for those couple of months if a title ever comes up.. which i doubt it will, given the timeframe.

[failingwithease]

ouch.

Well, you need to hear it. How would you feel if you were the other guy? And I don't want you to tell me that he's a player or he's not really into it or some other crap. If you were into this girl and sort-of-maybe dating her, but all the while your best friend is secretly trying to steal her away. If you really like this girl, fucking go for it, but man up and tell your friend about it.

[spansen]

Well, you need to hear it. How would you feel if you were the other guy? And I don't want you to tell me that he's a player or he's not really into it or some other crap. If you were into this girl and sort-of-maybe dating her, but all the while your best friend is secretly trying to steal her away. If you really like this girl, fucking go for it, but man up and tell your friend about it.
He's not looking for a girlfriend, she doesn't know that. He plans on leaving town to pursue his dream job within about two months, and she wants to move to Indianapolis as soon as she sells her car to have the money.. So nothing serious will happen between them, it's just a fling right now.

But, yeah, it is a bit shady, which is why we weren't kissing on the lips, because I didn't want to out of respect to my friend Jeremy.. But it's the end of the summer now, and I really just wanted that one real kiss before I left for school next week..

(This is all really really fresh)

[swt_catastrophe]

ha, see.. we were still keeping it pretty innocent. it was essentially just flirting at that level, still.

she called me after she messaged me and wants to hang out soon, and to "talk".. ha. i could fill her in on some things regarding my friend jeremy, but i don't really want to.. aka that he plans on leaving town within about two months to pursue his career, his drug habits, etc. ha.. all of which she doesn't know, but will i guess find out on her own soon enough should they work out for those couple of months if a title ever comes up.. which i doubt it will, given the timeframe.

so.. your just planning on sorta-dating her for awhile, then?
i guess you should just decide what you want..
to keep lying to jeremy? and have this pseudo-relationship..
or go for it with her, and hope he's not too pissed.

[spansen]

so.. your just planning on sorta-dating her for awhile, then?
i guess you should just decide what you want..
to keep lying to jeremy? and have this pseudo-relationship..
or go for it with her, and hope he's not too pissed.
Ha, nothing'll happen between us for now.. or for them.. Everyone of us is moving soon. Me to Bloomington for school again, her to Indy, and he'll be traveling everywhere non-stop for his job..

So it's not really a pseudo-anything with me. ha

[failingwithease]

He's not looking for a girlfriend, she doesn't know that. He plans on leaving town to pursue his dream job within about two months, and she wants to move to Indianapolis as soon as she sells her car to have the money.. So nothing serious will happen between them, it's just a fling right now.

But, yeah, it is a bit shady, which is why we weren't kissing on the lips, because I didn't want to out of respect to my friend Jeremy.. But it's the end of the summer now, and I really just wanted that one real kiss before I left for school next week..

(This is all really really fresh)

Do you want to date this girl or do you want a kiss? FFS. If you really cared more about this dude than you do the girl/yourself, you wouldn't have done anything. :shrug:

[swt_catastrophe]

Ha, nothing'll happen between us for now.. or for them.. Everyone of us is moving soon. Me to Bloomington for school again, her to Indy, and he'll be traveling everywhere non-stop for his job..

So it's not really a pseudo-anything with me. ha
ugh. i hate the school/home lives.
so annoying.
you start something at school- and then youre back home for christmas break.
start something during summer- and then youre back at school.
its a lose-lose.

[spansen]

Do you want to date this girl or do you want a kiss? FFS. If you really cared more about this dude than you do the girl/yourself, you wouldn't have done anything. :shrug:
What's FFS?.. I wouldn't mind dating her, but it'd be a while before that ever started, like until she moved to Indy..

And, about the other part.. I've had a big crush on her for a few years, and I just learned last week she's basically been the same for me.. And she and Jeremy just met, he I've known since 5th grade.. It's all weird..

[spansen]

ugh. i hate the school/home lives.
so annoying.
you start something at school- and then youre back home for christmas break.
start something during summer- and then youre back at school.
its a lose-lose.
I got into my first real relationship the summer after my freshman year.. And it lasted for a year.. Now she's about to go off to college and she decided she didn't want a relationship anymore.. So it's good while it lasts, but it sucks when reality bites back.

[failingwithease]

What's FFS?.. I wouldn't mind dating her, but it'd be a while before that ever started, like until she moved to Indy..

And, about the other part.. I've had a big crush on her for a few years, and I just learned last week she's basically been the same for me.. And she and Jeremy just met, he I've known since 5th grade.. It's all weird..

For fucks sake.

If you both like each other, why is she bothering with this other guy? I'd watch out. But honestly, it doesn't matter if you're moving away for a little while, you can make it work it you want to, just don't wait for it.

[spansen]

For fucks sake.

If you both like each other, why is she bothering with this other guy? I'd watch out. But honestly, it doesn't matter if you're moving away for a little while, you can make it work it you want to, just don't wait for it.
Ha.. I don't know.. Because before she and I got a hold of each other at all this summer he and she started to do their "pseudo-dating," as Ashley put it..

But, with all of us moving.. Her and I's odds are best.. As she'll be about an hour from me for school, while he'll be who-knows-where.

[failingwithease]

Ha.. I don't know.. Because before she and I got a hold of each other at all this summer he and she started to do their "pseudo-dating," as Ashley put it..

But, with all of us moving.. Her and I's odds are best.. As she'll be about an hour from me for school, while he'll be who-knows-where.

Okay. So go for it. You have nothing to lose. You're already this thing on the side. If you're really serious about it and tell her, it'll make her seriously think about it. You might come out on top, and sooner than you think. Just stop dicking around.

[*crying stars*]

Are you and your guy friend close?

I think I'd be careful if I were you.

[spansen]

Okay. So go for it. You have nothing to lose. You're already this thing on the side. If you're really serious about it and tell her, it'll make her seriously think about it. You might come out on top, and sooner than you think. Just stop dicking around.
Ha, but, again, I leave in a week..

And we all leave soon enough. When she called me earlier tonight she said she wants to talk about all of this, and so if it's not all negative.. then it'll leave room for something with me when she moves, potentially at least..

But! I like how you've completely jumped the fence on this now! ha

[spansen]

Are you and your guy friend close?

I think I'd be careful if I were you.
Sort of?.. We've known each other for a long time, but that doesn't make us the best of friends. We hang out every now and then.. We only really recently began to hang out more because he currently lives within about a mile of my house, so it's more convenient than ever.

[failingwithease]

Ha, but, again, I leave in a week..

And we all leave soon enough. When she called me earlier tonight she said she wants to talk about all of this, and so if it's not all negative.. then it'll leave room for something with me when she moves, potentially at least..

But! I like how you've completely jumped the fence on this now! ha

I just think it's ridiculous, really. You're biding your time and hoping things work out in your favor. Neither of you seem to realize that it is entirely in your hands. You're just playing foolish games. Fooooolish gaaames.

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[spansen]

I just think it's ridiculous, really. You're biding your time and hoping things work out in your favor. Neither of you seem to realize that it is entirely in your hands. You're just playing foolish games. Fooooolish gaaames.
Ha, well, the whole issue started over me not wanting to go too far into it because of my friend who I've known a lot longer than she has, and she I've also known a lot longer than he has.. But.. I didn't want to be at fault for that going sour, or feel like an entirely bad friend.. So, before the first time we hung out last week, the first time this summer.. We talked on AIM, and that's where we learned we've both liked each other for a long time.. So, we hung out, and we did the flirty kisses, but not on the lips, I even laid that rule out before we hung out.. ha.. But now I really want to as it's the very end of summer.

[failingwithease]

Ha, well, the whole issue started over me not wanting to go too far into it because of my friend who I've known a lot longer than she has, and she I've also known a lot longer than he has.. But.. I didn't want to be at fault for that going sour, or feel like an entirely bad friend.. So, before the first time we hung out last week, the first time this summer.. We talked on AIM, and that's where we learned we've both liked each other for a long time.. So, we hung out, and we did the flirty kisses, but not on the lips, I even laid that rule out before we hung out.. ha.. But now I really want to as it's the very end of summer.

It needs to be all or nothing. You can't say that you respect your friend and don't want to fuck things up and then proceed to interact with this girl the way that you do. "Flirty kisses," while, yes, are less severe than "real" kisses, is still crossing the line. The fact that you even have to set boundaries before meeting is proof of that. But I guess that's just my opinion. If you don't care about your friend, continue to do what you're doing. If you want this girl, go for her. If you go for her, tell your friend. I don't think it's really that difficult to realize, I think you're just scared.

[spansen]

It needs to be all or nothing. You can't say that you respect your friend and don't want to fuck things up and then proceed to interact with this girl the way that you do. "Flirty kisses," while, yes, are less severe than "real" kisses, is still crossing the line. The fact that you even have to set boundaries before meeting is proof of that. But I guess that's just my opinion. If you don't care about your friend, continue to do what you're doing. If you want this girl, go for her. If you go for her, tell your friend. I don't think it's really that difficult to realize, I think you're just scared.
Ha.. Well, again, ouch. And, I really don't envision a relationship with this girl, at least not right now.. Maybe down the line when she moves.. But we'll continue to hang out.. But, given her response to my asking her on a date, the next time i see her I'll hold back pretty much entirely and just do the friend thing like she and I always did before last week.

[failingwithease]

Ha.. Well, again, ouch. And, I really don't envision a relationship with this girl, at least not right now.. Maybe down the line when she moves.. But we'll continue to hang out.. But, given her response to my asking her on a date, the next time i see her I'll hold back pretty much entirely and just do the friend thing like she and I always did before last week.

I think that sounds like a good idea. Next time she gives you a chance though, don't hesitate.