According To TheScout.Net:

[Jared Kaufman]

Saves The Day (http://www.savestheday.com) has been dropped by Dreamworks.

[SomethingQuick]

cool?

[swimfan.]

it's a bummer that i'm apparently the only fan of "in reverie." that CD has had more listens in my iPod than any other album in the last year. i'm sure they'll find a new home soon and they'll keep evolving from one album to the next. good luck guys!!

[helplesseyes]

why don't they just stay with vagrant?

[howtostartafire]

it's a bummer that i'm apparently the only fan of "in reverie." that CD has had more listens in my iPod than any other album in the last year. i'm sure they'll find a new home soon and they'll keep evolving from one album to the next. good luck guys!!

you'd be the only one. It's going to be hard for STD to take a step back to their older stuff for their next album (i can only hope they choose to do this), i know they lost a lot of fans by taking a chance with In Reverie.

[StartingLine182]

it's a bummer that i'm apparently the only fan of "in reverie." that CD has had more listens in my iPod than any other album in the last year. i'm sure they'll find a new home soon and they'll keep evolving from one album to the next. good luck guys!!

It took me a while but now I love it.

[Rufio21]

they got the money so thats good. I am actually happy about his, now they can put out a good album because In Reverie wasnt that good at all.

[FashionFauxPas]

I hated In Reverie.

[TakingBackNolan]

I am sorry to say, but you have to think that the old "Through Being Cool" days are now over. First of all, his voice has changed drastically in between their "old" stuff and their "new" stuff. Second of all, "In Reverie" is one of the most amazing albums ever written and definitely the 2nd best CD of 2003 ( Deja Entendu being the best of course ) If Saves The Day actually LOST fans because of In Reverie, then that is rediculous. I heard a while back that they want to release a 50's doo-wop kind of album. I don't know, but I love where this band is going.

[tommyhaych]

I think as most bands go nowadays when they come to these crossroads, std will 'consider' their old stuff and work it into the new stuff.

Kinda like Incubus did.

[Frank Giaramita]

i called this like a year ago and it doesnt suprise me at all that it happened.

[TakingBackNolan]

I think as most bands go nowadays when they come to these crossroads, std will 'consider' their old stuff and work it into the new stuff.

Kinda like Incubus did.

I agree with that statement. But when it comes to Incubus, I believe their new album is too POPPY. It is a good album...true. But it isn't a good INCUBUS album.

[howtostartafire]

I think as most bands go nowadays when they come to these crossroads, std will 'consider' their old stuff and work it into the new stuff.

Kinda like Incubus did.

and the new incubus is their worst album yet.

[howtostartafire]

i called this like a year ago and it doesnt suprise me at all that it happened.
shut it, you brag about calling everything

[As Derrick Rust]

i knew this would happen. it's going to happen to every band on a major label eventually unless they break-up. so don't think you are some big mind reader just because you saw it coming.

[Xylene]

I guess Dreamworks realized how shitty "In Reverie" was and didn't want to waste any more time with them. I used to be such a huge fan of Saves The Day, then I heard "In Reverie" and wanted to jump off a cliff.

[Frank Giaramita]

shut it, you brag about calling everything

actually, i retract my statement. I dont "call everything", It's just when labels or bands like Dreamworks hear me say "saves the day is going to be dropped", they say to themselves..."wow...he just said saves the day would be dropped...we have to drop them now, bc he is fucking god". So in reality, I pick and choose what will happen in the music industry bc I am god.

[cheeruptheEmo]

yeah i was disappointed with "in reverie" even though it was good songs poeticly...its just its not saves the day...I don't think that that was there best.I know their old stuff is way better.And maybe it would be nice if they could mix the old with the new...Even just the old would be great.

[SC0926]

and the new incubus is their worst album yet.
I agree. It sounds nothing like their 'old' albums. Listen to S.C.I.E.N.C.E(and anything before Morning View, ex. Enjoy Incubus, Fungus Amongus,) and even Make Yourself and tell me that sounds like A Crow Left of whatever. I have all their albums, and they last 2(but especially the last one) sound nothing like the first 4. I think personally, their new album stinks. Everything sounds too poppy and sounds the same as the last song. As for Saves the Day, I agree with the statement that they will probably attempt to look at old stuff. It took me awhile to get into their last album, but for the majority, I like it. So good luck to them.

[howtostartafire]

besides i think we all saw it coming when saves the day had to cancel a bunch of shows because they'd headline shows and people would leave before STD got on stage because they hated in reverie so much, and that's all they were playing live

[howtostartafire]

actually, i retract my statement. I dont "call everything", It's just when labels or bands like Dreamworks hear me say "saves the day is going to be dropped", they say to themselves..."wow...he just said saves the day would be dropped...we have to drop them now, bc he is fucking god". So in reality, I pick and choose what will happen in the music industry bc I am god.

arcadiansky owns the universe.

[InaGreendase]

See the icon? It leaked, in 160 kbps. Not bad.

Want it?

AIM: InaGreendase.

[howtostartafire]

See the icon? It leaked, in 160 kbps. Not bad.

Want it?

AIM: InaGreendase.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no more SLR hype pleaeeaese i can't take it

[CROMagnon]

it's a bummer that i'm apparently the only fan of "in reverie." that CD has had more listens in my iPod than any other album in the last year. i'm sure they'll find a new home soon and they'll keep evolving from one album to the next. good luck guys!!
i love that album, good solid dream pop

[CROMagnon]

I guess Dreamworks realized how shitty "In Reverie" was and didn't want to waste any more time with them. I used to be such a huge fan of Saves The Day, then I heard "In Reverie" and wanted to jump off a cliff.
this is why they say "go with your first instinct"

[TheWordsmith]

this is why they say "go with your first instinct"

yikes, haha.
in reverie was a good record

[YourLatestVicti]

it's a bummer that i'm apparently the only fan of "in reverie." that CD has had more listens in my iPod than any other album in the last year. i'm sure they'll find a new home soon and they'll keep evolving from one album to the next. good luck guys!!

I agree with you completely, and can't wait for a new albumn.

[KnoWs My NaMe]

saves the day IS my favorite band and i think 'Stay What You Are' is untouchable but i also think 'In Reverie' was a great album although others would disagree but just hearing that a label would drop a band as amazing as Saves The Day sucks...Dreamworks doesnt have Saves The Day anymore, but hey they still got Brand New and i'm sure that will pan out well

[RozeHarding]

I've travelled all over the country to see Saves The Day. I've been fired from a job before because I drove to CA to see them rather than going into work. If it wasn't for Saves The Day I would never have met my boyfriend and my life would definitely not be where it's at right now. I love this band so much, and as much as this news doesn't really surprise me - I hope it all works out for them. As long as they are happy and still making music I will be pleased.

--Roze

[OnLegendary21]

I bought "In Reverie" twice and got rid of it twice because I disliked it so much. It's not that it was a terrible album, it's that it was Saves The Day. If anyone else put out that album I would have considerd it to be great. But I love them for their stuff like "Through Being Cool" and "Stay What You Are". I just couldn't get passed how different it was. Believe me, I tried. Hopefully this drop will change their ways.

[dretti]

I agree that in reverie sucked ass, but whoever made the comment about Chris's voice, i think his voice has developed for the better. His voice is stronger and clearer now than it used to be. I just saw saves the day over the summer twice, and when they sang all their old songs, they just sounded even better than they used too. So if they could go back to their roots for just one more album, it could be the best one yet.

[thewk]

saves the day is one of the most abstract bands out there today. every one of their albums is completely different than the rest, merging different styles into every album. eventually, they are going to do something new (i.e. in reverie) that some people aren't going to like because they're not used to it. listen, they tried something new and obviously it didn't work out too well. their next album is going to own and dreamworks are going to feel like fucksticks when every other major is after saves the day.
hell yes.

[TakingBackNolan]

Without a doubt, I think if Saves The Day came out with a "Through Being Cool"-esque album in 2005, it would have a good chance of being the CD of the year.

[MidniteVulture]

they got the money so thats good. I am actually happy about his, now they can put out a good album because In Reverie wasnt that good at all.Haha, wait, you think they put out a bad album because they were on a major label?

Please try to explain this.

[X__inhope]

what ever happened to dreamworks going under? or being bought out or whatever was going on last year? im behind on this i guess

[dancinginmyear]

Everyone seems to want saves the day to put out another album like their first ones that made them popular. To me.. to go ahead and make a album like that after trying to move ahead with music they wanted to make would be the definition of "selling out". I would lose all respect for saves the day( one of my fav bands) if they made another "through being cool" or "stay what you are" just to get fans back or whatnot. Just my opinion

[Sureshot182]

going to a major label is taking a chance of getting dumped. saves the day is better than any band in the mainstream, and dreamworks probably dropped them because they didn't sell enough. and they would be cheating everyone, including themselves, if they released through being cool part 2. that cd is one of my favorites, but i would be disappointed if they released a cd like that. best of luck to them though, they're an amazing band.

[stevo]

whaaa?, o well, they are at the point where they dont even need a label, i am most certian that they have the income to do it themselves, but we'll see what happens

[NorthofSD]

yeah...this is according to the scout.net....that doesn't make it true. I love this band.

[Jason Priestley]

God, i hope their next album sounds like "in reverie". Musicially, its years beyond previous albums. Each sound is distinct and beautiful in its own way. Much more mature than the repetive sound of the other std albums. Thats just me. Most will disagree. But as it is, i guess i'm getting tired of the "scene" and i'm enjoying more musically diverse sounds than standard pop-punk.

[sayanything]

i think saves the day went downhill beginning with stay what you are. change can be great in a band, but in this case it was for the worst. there was maybe two good songs off SWYA. i wanted to like them, honestly i did, but it was impossible. none of them were special to me and they sounded forced and too polished and not half as genuine as the older stuff. i realized i kept skipping any of those songs when i had them on burned cds. i used to consider them one of my favorite bands but now i don't because i cant stand the majority of the songs off their last two albums. seeing them live recently was great, but i cringed everytime they played one of those songs, because of how badly they SUCK. it was such a dissapointment. i couldnt believe that i, a saves the day fan, could barely get through in reverie. this was not them, it was someone else. like a retarded monkees mixed with weezer. what the hell? whatever happened to songs like you vandal and three miles down? i guess ill just stick with my old cds and let them go. im not even possessive anymore of them. you can have them. theyre not for me anymore, and that blows.

[nihilst]

God, i hope their next album sounds like "in reverie". Musicially, its years beyond previous albums. Each sound is distinct and beautiful in its own way. Much more mature than the repetive sound of the other std albums. Thats just me. Most will disagree. But as it is, i guess i'm getting tired of the "scene" and i'm enjoying more musically diverse sounds than standard pop-punk.
What he said. I really have a problem with people saying In reverie sucks. My problem isn't with them not liking it but with them not giving it a chance and respecting it. People say they sold out. How exactly did they sell out? In Reverie is much less radio friendly than stay what you are and through being cool. just in case you didn't know, the album was recorded before they were picked up by dreamworks. The mainstream is not ready for the sound of In Reverie(again?). As far as I'm concerned STD invented pop-punk. I can't wait to see what they do next.

[Jason Priestley]

I really dig the album because it sounds like aimee mann/michael penn stuff. Its great. If you hated "in reverie" never listen to the magnolia soundtrack. I on the other hand love that soundtrack. Hell, the entire movie was based off of one line from a song that goes, "Now that I've met you, would you object to, never seeing each other again." Classic.

But don't ever listen to it. You guys will obviously hate it. Why? Because its not pop punk i suppose. Who knows....

[AlwaysPunkin45]

I love every album they've put out. Honestly, I think it's better that they choose to do whatever they feel like and not try to sound the exact same because that'd be just too much of a good thing and it'd get old way too quickly.

[em0_stars]

I love every album they've put out. Honestly, I think it's better that they choose to do whatever they feel like and not try to sound the exact same because that'd be just too much of a good thing and it'd get old way too quickly.
aint it the truth

[AlwaysPunkin45]

aint it the truth
Yeah homefry

[70x7]

People don't like In Reverie because they don't scream in it, and they're too macho to try to like a pop record. If they mad Through Being Cool again, they'd be loved by the kids who didn't hear them until In Reverie because it's fast and aggressive, but they'd get flamed by everybody else, for trend chasing. People have always said it. Saves the Day has always been ahead of their time. Every record they've done has been evidence. Sounded like Lifetime at first. Did an accoustic record (evne though it was an EP), made a moody indie tinged record, made a pop record. Let's just see what happens, and see how much you dislike In Reverie next summer.

[70x7]

I also want to point out that the average age of the posters here probably is 17-18, I could be wrong. That means they were 11 or 12 when Saves the Day forst started putting out records. These kids were not listening to Saves the Day. They were listening to whatever they heard on Nickleodeon

[quitmyscene]

i hear something corporate and count the stars on nickelodeon all the time.

[InaGreendase]

I'm all for change, but honestly, that album was void of all emotion and feeling.

[homerjay]

i think saves the day went downhill beginning with stay what you are. change can be great in a band, but in this case it was for the worst. there was maybe two good songs off SWYA. i wanted to like them, honestly i did, but it was impossible. none of them were special to me and they sounded forced and too polished and not half as genuine as the older stuff. i realized i kept skipping any of those songs when i had them on burned cds. i used to consider them one of my favorite bands but now i don't because i cant stand the majority of the songs off their last two albums. seeing them live recently was great, but i cringed everytime they played one of those songs, because of how badly they SUCK. it was such a dissapointment. i couldnt believe that i, a saves the day fan, could barely get through in reverie. this was not them, it was someone else. like a retarded monkees mixed with weezer. what the hell? whatever happened to songs like you vandal and three miles down? i guess ill just stick with my old cds and let them go. im not even possessive anymore of them. you can have them. theyre not for me anymore, and that blows.

Bands evolve, deal with it. To say they suck is just friggin' rediculous. If every band evolved like STD has, pop music would be a million times better right now. For you to say "it was not them" is perhaps the dumbest comment I've seen on this board in a while (an incredible feat, mind you). This record (In Reverie) was exactly "them" and just because you can't handle the band changing doesn't mean that the last two records were bad. And if you're truly, um, "not even possessive anymore of them", send them my way.

[70x7]

i hear something corporate and count the stars on nickelodeon all the time.
I don't know if your being serious or not, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

[i bet i bet]

I love every album they've put out. Honestly, I think it's better that they choose to do whatever they feel like and not try to sound the exact same because that'd be just too much of a good thing and it'd get old way too quickly.

me too. im glad theyve changed. all their cds are good.

[Tyler Revolution]

I am sorry to say, but you have to think that the old "Through Being Cool" days are now over. First of all, his voice has changed drastically in between their "old" stuff and their "new" stuff. Second of all, "In Reverie" is one of the most amazing albums ever written and definitely the 2nd best CD of 2003 ( Deja Entendu being the best of course ) If Saves The Day actually LOST fans because of In Reverie, then that is rediculous. I heard a while back that they want to release a 50's doo-wop kind of album. I don't know, but I love where this band is going.

I love your signature.

[TheWordsmith]

I don't know if your being serious or not, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit.



i've heard "taking it all back" on nick

[guess_who?]

i just want to comment about the comments/oppinions on the 1st pg about incubus's new album being "poppy" well im sorry but if sick sad little world was a "poppy" song..man i would be such a pop whore i mean i dont care if u dislike it and what not but honestly its anything but poppy and it def. has influences from their more funky/older shtuff... ya thats all i actually wanted to comment on and i know it was like 3 pages ago..oh well have a nice day ya'all

[bleedingemo]

People don't like In Reverie because they don't scream in it

please slit your wrists

thnx

[djUbilla]

whaaa?, o well, they are at the point where they dont even need a label, i am most certian that they have the income to do it themselves, but we'll see what happens
I would love to see a "Bleed American" or a "Forget What You Know" situation get pulled off here.

In Reverie has a very different sound to it, but the lyrics are as incredible as always. I understand the distaste for it (i always make sure future fans of saves the day here older stuff before in reverie), but its still saves the day at the core, the songwriting style is still there. I'm excited to see what comes next for the band, I wish them the best of luck. Chris Conley has the musical touch of a golden god.

[billcom6]

Through Being Cool is currently the cd in my car and it has been in there alot lately, it is such an awesome album, itll never happen but if they mad TBC part 2 i would be extremely happy

and to the person who said ppl dont like in reverie because they dont scream anymore, its not like there was a lot (or any) screaming on TBC or SWYA

[Imallout007]

they should of just stayed with vagrant

[TENCopeland]

really, In Reverie just wasn't very good. and this is not because it was not typical saves the day. i'm all for bands evolving, but the cd had 3 or 4 good songs. the problem is that they were trying too hard to be different that much of the stuff wasn't pleasant sounding at all. it's like many of the indie bands that are terrible but are cool to like. i have no problem with bands changing their sound, but don't make it hurt my ears.

[CROMagnon]

why do so few people appreciate dream pop?

[SkylineDrive]

In Reverie, isn't that great
but neither is their "new" old stuff on that new "b-sides" cd

[heartsskye]

Technically, STD is still with Vagrant. They still have a deal with Vagrant, so they aren't labelless. Check the back of In Reverie, and check the vagrant site. Later.
<3Justin

[xJeremyx]

i actually thought they had already been dropped by dreamworks and if not im surprised it took this long. I really liked most of In Reverie, but im sure dreamworks just wanted to capitalize off the success of Nothing gold can Stay and hope to sell a million records.

[emocore]

i think this will be the first of many bands to be dropped in the major label emo signing craze.

[CROMagnon]

i actually thought they had already been dropped by dreamworks and if not im surprised it took this long. I really liked most of In Reverie, but im sure dreamworks just wanted to capitalize off the success of Nothing gold can Stay and hope to sell a million records.
um, don't you mean "stay what you are" and not "nothing gold can stay"?

[Albino_Virgin]

what ever happened to dreamworks going under? or being bought out or whatever was going on last year? im behind on this i guess


Yea, I was wondering that same thing. I though Dreamworks was dead. Anyone wanna educate us?

As for all this In Reverie talk, though it isn't my favourite release of the band, I still love it. It continues the same thing that makes me a huge fan of Saves the Day, the fact that every album sounds completly different from the last, and any other release. Through Being Cool is probably my favourite Saves the Day album, but if they released something that sounded just like it, even similar to it, I'd be disappointed. Chris always creates something new and different, and I hope they keep it that way and don't regress to past ideas just because some kids hated it. They are way better than that.

[sayanything]

Bands evolve, deal with it. To say they suck is just friggin' rediculous. If every band evolved like STD has, pop music would be a million times better right now. For you to say "it was not them" is perhaps the dumbest comment I've seen on this board in a while (an incredible feat, mind you). This record (In Reverie) was exactly "them" and just because you can't handle the band changing doesn't mean that the last two records were bad. And if you're truly, um, "not even possessive anymore of them", send them my way.

yes, bands do evolve..as i pointed out. and i do deal with it. in saves the day's case, i deal with it by not listening to the cds that i don't like. i'm not sure i could even call that evolving-yes they changed, but to me, not for the better. but hey, if to get better is to become a whiny, whiny, overly-poppy second rate weezer-type band with uninspired lyrics (or i guess i really cant even think of the right words that would describe their new sound), then yep thats what they did. you say the last two records weren't necessarily bad? well, thats an opinion, and i say they were, because it's mine. you act like their last two cds were so advanced and well done that i couldnt 'handle' them. no, thats not the case. to me, they took a step back. it's not an issue of being able to handle them or not, it's that the music they now make has no appeal to me so i choose not to listen to it. can you handle someone having an opinion different than your own? because you sure sound defensive. i respect people who judge any cd objectively and can admit when a cd dissapointed them or wasnt up to par, and dont feel forced to like it, so they can come off like a "true fan." and i respect conflict and differences between people. if you're not automatically praising anything saves the day has done because you're in denial or want to be considered a true fan, then hey good for you and listen to them all you want. calm down. i'm just a bit dissapointed that they blow now..in my...humble opinion.

[avitabully]

please slit your wrists

thnx

Your Forum name sucks so bad your mother hides her face when people walk by your trailer.

[Atticus_86]

I loved In Revrie it was my favorite saves the day album followed closly buy Stay What you are. I wish Dream works would have given saves the day more of a chance thier still an extremly young band with alot of potential. I really wish the member of saves the day the best of luck.And Im extemly glad that they had the balls to make a record like In Revrie.

[xstraylightrunx]

you'd be the only one. It's going to be hard for STD to take a step back to their older stuff for their next album (i can only hope they choose to do this), i know they lost a lot of fans by taking a chance with In Reverie.

I hate how everyone dislikes "In Reverie" so much and just acts like they went straight from "Through Being Cool" to "In Reverie." "Stay What You Are" was quite a change in music stylings and everyone embraced it. To me "In Reverie" made sense to me. The band is just evolving so rapidly and many people just can't accept the fact that they will never be the band "they used to be" This band has grown beautifully and I can't wait to hear new stuff.

[Frank Giaramita]

I hate how everyone dislikes "In Reverie" so much and just acts like they went straight from "Through Being Cool" to "In Reverie." "Stay What You Are" was quite a change in music stylings and everyone embraced it. To me "In Reverie" made sense to me. The band is just evolving so rapidly and many people just can't accept the fact that they will never be the band "they used to be" This band has grown beautifully and I can't wait to hear new stuff.

I hope this band ends right now and spares us all by never making another CD again. The best of their days are over and have been over for a while, they should really learn when to quit.

[theandrewvolta]

"in reverie" is a good album. definately not their most catchy but all bands grow up and mature. so "in reverie" doesn't sound like their old shit... at least it's a great 'eleveator music' rock cd.

[sinbad]

as good as cant slow down or through being cool are, i hope to god they dont make another record like that- so they experiemented with their last album, so what- get up kids did that 2 albums ago and everyone bashed them- then what happened, guilt show came out and it turned out to be incredible

theyve been around for a long time, let them change

[TheRunAround]

I really tried to live In Reverie...but honestly I think it's just a sub-par, not good cd. Just because a band does something different doesn't mean it has to be good, and it doesn't mean it has to be bad either. Good songs are good songs period...and In Reverie is missing those

[OnLegendary21]

I hope this band ends right now and spares us all by never making another CD again. The best of their days are over and have been over for a while, they should really learn when to quit.

In a way I agree with you. I'd much rather them quit making music than put out anymore "In Reverie" type stuff.

[NYC27]

for every idiot here saying 'dreamworks realized in reverie sucks...they wanted another SWYA' or whatever, STD was bought out of the vagrant contract so that dreamworks COULD release In Reverie. They wanted that album so bad they didn't want to sign them and wait for their next album. Dreamworks was the artist-development label that preached patience with artists b/c they had no shareholders to report to. UMG bought Dreamworks about a month after saves the day signed and didn't have the patience since other DW bands like AAR, AFI an Jimmy Eat World have more immediate radio-friendly singles. The only guarantee is that Chris will continue to write amazing music that challenges himself as a musician and you as the listener. I am extremely excited, if nothing else they can return to Vagrant and still have great distribution and write the album they want to write. Many of you are upset that they no longer sound like their TBC sound, which is understandable but Saves the Day should be seen more of a rock band, I think their new sound appeals to some fans that are a little older in age...their sound is accessible to more fans now I think and shows a more mature songwriting ability. You'll always have TBC, it's a great album but it's pretty exciting to not know what to expect from Saves the Day next...I'd rather that then get the same album over and over. Especially in a day in age where everyone copies completely off everyone else, especially in this genre, isn't it nice to have someone doing something different?

Best of luck to Saves the Day, they are clearly landing on their feet and will be fine.

[mondeoman]

i love that album, good solid dream pop
Once again Carlos nails it.

[homerjay]

yes, bands do evolve..as i pointed out. and i do deal with it. in saves the day's case, i deal with it by not listening to the cds that i don't like. i'm not sure i could even call that evolving-yes they changed, but to me, not for the better. but hey, if to get better is to become a whiny, whiny, overly-poppy second rate weezer-type band with uninspired lyrics (or i guess i really cant even think of the right words that would describe their new sound), then yep thats what they did. you say the last two records weren't necessarily bad? well, thats an opinion, and i say they were, because it's mine. you act like their last two cds were so advanced and well done that i couldnt 'handle' them. no, thats not the case. to me, they took a step back. it's not an issue of being able to handle them or not, it's that the music they now make has no appeal to me so i choose not to listen to it. can you handle someone having an opinion different than your own? because you sure sound defensive. i respect people who judge any cd objectively and can admit when a cd dissapointed them or wasnt up to par, and dont feel forced to like it, so they can come off like a "true fan." and i respect conflict and differences between people. if you're not automatically praising anything saves the day has done because you're in denial or want to be considered a true fan, then hey good for you and listen to them all you want. calm down. i'm just a bit dissapointed that they blow now..in my...humble opinion.

I have no problem with the fact that you don't like the new sound. However, you act like they let the whole world down by changing, and just saying that they SUCK (as you wrote it) doesn't come off as a very well reasoned opinion. Honestly, In Reverie is my least favorite STD album, but I think they deserve a shitload of respect for putting out a record like that. They had just signed to a major and they could have easily written another Through Being Cool and watched the cash flow in, but they didn't. Even if they wrote the record, then got signed, they could have easily changed it because we all know Dreamworks wanted Saves the Day, not In Reverie. I didn't mean to get all up in your face or anything, but it just bothers me that bands who actually take chances and change their sound (STD, Get Up Kids, etc.) get bashed for it so much on here.

[jellybeans]

Just because a band does something different doesn't mean it has to be good, and it doesn't mean it has to be bad either. Good songs are good songs period...and In Reverie is missing those

i agree. very well said.

[Atticus_86]

for every idiot here saying 'dreamworks realized in reverie sucks...they wanted another SWYA' or whatever, STD was bought out of the vagrant contract so that dreamworks COULD release In Reverie. They wanted that album so bad they didn't want to sign them and wait for their next album. Dreamworks was the artist-development label that preached patience with artists b/c they had no shareholders to report to. UMG bought Dreamworks about a month after saves the day signed and didn't have the patience since other DW bands like AAR, AFI an Jimmy Eat World have more immediate radio-friendly singles. The only guarantee is that Chris will continue to write amazing music that challenges himself as a musician and you as the listener. I am extremely excited, if nothing else they can return to Vagrant and still have great distribution and write the album they want to write. Many of you are upset that they no longer sound like their TBC sound, which is understandable but Saves the Day should be seen more of a rock band, I think their new sound appeals to some fans that are a little older in age...their sound is accessible to more fans now I think and shows a more mature songwriting ability. You'll always have TBC, it's a great album but it's pretty exciting to not know what to expect from Saves the Day next...I'd rather that then get the same album over and over. Especially in a day in age where everyone copies completely off everyone else, especially in this genre, isn't it nice to have someone doing something different?

Best of luck to Saves the Day, they are clearly landing on their feet and will be fine.

Fuckin A I compltly agree. I complty forgot that dreamworks bought in revrie.

Dream works strated makeing crappy disions on movies which put them millions in debt and they sold thier music divsion to pay for thier crap.

[foreverfallen]

See the icon? It leaked, in 160 kbps. Not bad.

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AIM: InaGreendase.

The exc release? Re-released by ind, right? The whole story behind that release is quite amusing I thought...quite sad though.

[fgevilmonkey]

I also want to point out that the average age of the posters here probably is 17-18, I could be wrong. That means they were 11 or 12 when Saves the Day forst started putting out records. These kids were not listening to Saves the Day. They were listening to whatever they heard on Nickleodeon
You are very stupid. Sorry.

[thirtyfourdays]

for every idiot here saying 'dreamworks realized in reverie sucks...they wanted another SWYA' or whatever, STD was bought out of the vagrant contract so that dreamworks COULD release In Reverie. They wanted that album so bad they didn't want to sign them and wait for their next album. Dreamworks was the artist-development label that preached patience with artists b/c they had no shareholders to report to. UMG bought Dreamworks about a month after saves the day signed and didn't have the patience since other DW bands like AAR, AFI an Jimmy Eat World have more immediate radio-friendly singles. The only guarantee is that Chris will continue to write amazing music that challenges himself as a musician and you as the listener. I am extremely excited, if nothing else they can return to Vagrant and still have great distribution and write the album they want to write. Many of you are upset that they no longer sound like their TBC sound, which is understandable but Saves the Day should be seen more of a rock band, I think their new sound appeals to some fans that are a little older in age...their sound is accessible to more fans now I think and shows a more mature songwriting ability. You'll always have TBC, it's a great album but it's pretty exciting to not know what to expect from Saves the Day next...I'd rather that then get the same album over and over. Especially in a day in age where everyone copies completely off everyone else, especially in this genre, isn't it nice to have someone doing something different?

Best of luck to Saves the Day, they are clearly landing on their feet and will be fine.

incredibly stated...

[Albino_Virgin]

[QUOTE=xstraylightrunx]"Stay What You Are" was quite a change in music stylings and everyone embraced it. QUOTE]

But I remember right when it came out, tons of people hated that album. They came around quicker than people are with 'In Reverie', and some people are still gonna hate it in the end, but i think after people get over that fact that it's different, they might also turn around.

[sayanything]

I have no problem with the fact that you don't like the new sound. However, you act like they let the whole world down by changing, and just saying that they SUCK (as you wrote it) doesn't come off as a very well reasoned opinion. Honestly, In Reverie is my least favorite STD album, but I think they deserve a shitload of respect for putting out a record like that. They had just signed to a major and they could have easily written another Through Being Cool and watched the cash flow in, but they didn't. Even if they wrote the record, then got signed, they could have easily changed it because we all know Dreamworks wanted Saves the Day, not In Reverie. I didn't mean to get all up in your face or anything, but it just bothers me that bands who actually take chances and change their sound (STD, Get Up Kids, etc.) get bashed for it so much on here.

if they had written another through being cool, you really think a major label would've profited from it? no way. they were played on mtv because of the support of a major label but also because they had a more mainstream radio friendly sound. by the way, anywhere with you? wtf? whoever said elevator music is right. anyway, the mtv audience was exposed to them after they heard/ saw the videos of at your funeral and freakish, songs that wouldve never been on the past cds, and touring with blink. which is exactly what i expected when they were signed to dreamworks. and the way i see that is: saves the day less rough around the edges and more appealing to the masses-$$ for the majors. in reverie is a whole 'nother story with the label i guess, because clearly that didnt go over so well with their fan base.

[70x7]

You are very stupid. Sorry.
I'm stupid because I am right. I'm sorry I don't fall for whatever flavor of the week hardcore, or pretend im some crust punk, but the sad fact is that it's true

[homerjay]

[QUOTE=sayanything]if they had written another through being cool, you really think a major label would've profited from it?[QUOTE]

Yes. Heavily. I guess that's where we differ. You see In Reverie as radio-friendly pop, and I don't. Poppy, yes. Radio-friendly, I don't really think so. STD was huge in the underground scene (that's not so underground anymore) and would have probably been on MTV no matter what they sounded like. Welcome to the music industry.

[70x7]

In Reverie had a song on MTV

[eric5776]

Dreamworks bands and artists folded into Interscope and Geffen. Some bands went w/ Interscope (Brand New, AFI, Jimmy Eat World) and some bands went w/ Geffen (Sparta, Rise Against, Papa Roach) depending on which A&R person was handling the project. Some bands were dropped as a result. It seems as if STD was a victim of bad timing (or good timing...depending how you look at it).

[m80rocker346]

See the icon? It leaked, in 160 kbps. Not bad.

Want it?

AIM: InaGreendase.

yea it did, we can all finally hear it and stop asking... i even got to hear the 12th song costello