Conor Oberst is the modern Bob Dylan

[_jonas]

or close enough.

Maybe Iron & Wine...

[IWasaCamera]

Not even remotely close.

[_jonas]

then who?

[thisisadisaster]

wow. you are the first person to ever say that, sarcasm.

[IWasaCamera]

There is no current artist who comes anywhere near rivaling Dylan in terms of both musical legacy and cultural impact. This includes Oberst and Beam.

[_jonas]

Who doesn't want a modern day Dylan?
just a dream...

[IWasaCamera]

I'd love one. Doesn't mean we need to slap that title on anyone who writes somewhat intelligent lyrics and plays a guitar.

[_jonas]

Well Lifted's lyrics are a blessing for this generation.

I don't know I was just so stunned the first time I read through the booklet

[HangsLikeHeaven]

haha

[_jonas]

:efu:

[shit stroll]

fuck i hate this website

[Pluto.]

No.

[micahistheballs]

This is a ridiculous, trite, stupid comparision that has been made hundreds of times and each time with no merit. Conor Oberst has yet to release one great album while Dylan released three in the course of 18 months. Conor fails to surpass or even match Dylan in any area whether it be vocally, lyrically, and Dylan even surrounded himself with better musicians. Oberst is nowhere close to being the modern Dylan. No singer/songwriter is or probably ever will be.

[_jonas]

:bow:

[x togepi x]

no, OP is right. bright eyes is pretty overrated.

[micahistheballs]

no, OP is right. bright eyes is pretty overrated.
Oh man! I see you what you did.

[x togepi x]

it's true though.

[myantiyou]

oberst is fantastic, but I don't agree.

[KatieKutthroat.]

Not even close.

[micahistheballs]

it's true though.
Not a Dylan fan?

[myantiyou]

goddammit op. you just had to start attracting all this hate for mr. oberst.

[x togepi x]

Not a Dylan fan?

i like bob dylan but i don't think he's the end all be all to music like a lot of people do.

[_jonas]

Oberst isn't as mature or wise as Dylan.

I doubt he ever will be too. You can only be born with what Dylans got

[micahistheballs]

goddammit op. you just had to start attracting all this hate for mr. oberst.

As sad as it is, this is why I've never been able to get into him as much as I probably should. I keep comparing him to Dylan.

i like bob dylan but i don't think he's the end all be all to music like a lot of people do.


I think he's quite possibly the best singer/songwriter in the last 50 years, definitely the most important, and his music has just always done it for me I guess.

[micahistheballs]

Oberst isn't as mature or wise as Dylan.

I doubt he ever will be too. You can only be born with what Dylans got
That's one thing about him too. He's almost 30 now and he still sounds and writes like he did when he was 7 years younger.

[x togepi x]

I think he's quite possibly the best singer/songwriter in the last 50 years, definitely the most important, and his music has just always done it for me I guess.

have you seriously listened to anything he did in the 80s? eww

[timbedinosaur]

Davey Havok is the modern day Jesus.

[_jonas]

I think he's quite possibly the best singer/songwriter in the last 50 years, definitely the most important, and his music has just always done it for me I guess.
There was nothing before Dylan

[micahistheballs]

have you seriously listened to anything he did in the 80s? eww
Yeah, that was definitely not his best material by any means, but there were a few good songs in there and Infidels and Oh Mercy were both pretty good albums. I can forgive him for a few downers with all the other great albums he made. He had a string from 1964 to 1976 where basically every album he released was stellar unlike any other band or artist I can think of.

[IWasaCamera]

That's one thing about him too. He's almost 30 now and he still sounds and writes like he did when he was 7 years younger.
While I'm all for this Dylan > Oberst sentiment, recent Bright Eyes releases are nothing like Fevers And Mirrors. Still not in Dylan territory but frankly not many artists are.

[x togepi x]

Yeah, that was definitely not his best material by any means, but there were a few good songs in there and Infidels and Oh Mercy were both pretty good albums. I can forgive him for a few downers with all the other great albums he made. He had a string from 1964 to 1976 where basically every album he released was stellar unlike any other band or artist I can think of.

every fugazi album is stellar.

[micahistheballs]

There was nothing before Dylan
That's totally false. There was Woody Guthrie, Johnny Cash, Jack Elliot, and scores of other folk musicians who laid the groundwork for what he did. Even if there was nothing before him, so what? No one's done it better than him since.

[_jonas]

Oberst's stuff is certainly more thought provoking than a recent modern artists.

[SanePsychotic]

I cannot stand Conor Oberst. While I acknowledge that some people consider his music "good", I find it irritating. But that's purely on a personal level.

Sam Beam, on the other hand, I actually like. He's nowhere near Dylan because there can only be one Bob Dylan.

[micahistheballs]

While I'm all for this Dylan > Oberst sentiment, recent Bright Eyes releases are nothing like Fevers And Mirrors. Still not in Dylan territory but frankly not many artists are.

I don't see too much progression from Lifted to his solo release personally, maybe I'm just not perceptive enough I guess. Tell me how you say they differ and then let me see if I agree or disagree haha.

every fugazi album is stellar.


I'm not too familiar with them so I'll give you that haha.

[Kid B]

I love Oberst, but him and Bob Dylan are nothing alike in terms of how they write their songs. Oberst writes lyrics in a lot different of a way, and let's face it, Dylan never released any albums that were creepy like Fevers. Oberst is the modern day Oberst, and Bob Dylan is and always will be Bob Dylan.

And Jonas, I can think of many, many more recent artists/bands that are more provoking than Oberst. Not saying Oberst isn't awesome, but still.

[IWasaCamera]

I don't see too much progression from Lifted to his solo release personally, maybe I'm just not perceptive enough I guess. Tell me how you say they differ and then let me see if I agree or disagree haha.
Listen to Fevers And Mirrors, then I'm Wide Awake. The differences are abundantly clear. His solo album however is garbage for the most part.
Oberst's stuff is certainly more thought provoking than a recent modern artists.
And this makes Oberst today's Bob Dylan? What about Will Oldham or Sam Beam?

[SanePsychotic]

Listen to Fevers And Mirrors, then I'm Wide Awake. The differences are abundantly clear. His solo album however is garbage for the most part.

And this makes Oberst today's Bob Dylan? What about Will Oldham or Sam Beam?

Didn't he mention Sam Beam in his first post?

[_jonas]

Listen to Fevers And Mirrors, then I'm Wide Awake. The differences are abundantly clear. His solo album however is garbage for the most part.
:-/

[_jonas]

And this makes Oberst today's Bob Dylan? What about Will Oldham or Sam Beam?
Just sayin'

[IWasaCamera]

:-/
It is.
Didn't he mention Sam Beam in his first post?
Oberst is the real artist being stacked up to Dylan here. Beam was just thrown in to make the initial comparison easier to digest.

[micahistheballs]

Oberst's stuff is certainly more thought provoking than a recent modern artists.
This sentence doesn't make sense, but there's plenty of people making music with thought provoking music. He's definitely not alone in that.

[micahistheballs]

Listen to Fevers And Mirrors, then I'm Wide Awake. The differences are abundantly clear. His solo album however is garbage for the most part.

And this makes Oberst today's Bob Dylan? What about Will Oldham or Sam Beam?
Wide Awake is much more minimalistic and the writing is more political, but it doesn't seem (oh I hate saying this) like a Dylan-esque type transition which is the point of this thread though after all.

I felt the solo album was very hit or miss song by song.

[_jonas]

:hitself:
sorry. I can see my views are only slanted only because Oberst is the first singer/songwriter character I really dug.

[IWasaCamera]

Wide Awake is much more minimalistic and the writing is more political, but it doesn't seem (oh I hate saying this) like a Dylan-esque type transition which is the point of this thread though after all.

I felt the solo album was very hit or miss song by song.
Oh, he certainly didn't undergo the same type of musical transition Dylan did going from acoustic to electric. Claiming that he has would be absurd. I'm simply disputing your claim that Oberst's music hasn't changed in the past 7 years.

Swung and missed on just about every song.

[Kid B]

:hitself:
sorry. I can see my views are only slanted only because Oberst is the first singer/songwriter character I really dug.
The first band I really dug was The Offspring. I don't see how that matters.

[Kerplunk_23]

Conor Oberst isnt even close to Dylan status besides Bob Dylan doesn't whine unlike Oberst

[micahistheballs]

Oh, he certainly didn't undergo the same type of musical transition Dylan did going from acoustic to electric. Claiming that he has would be absurd. I'm simply disputing your claim that Oberst's music hasn't changed in the past 7 years.

Swung and missed on just about every song.
Alright, I won't disagree with that. We were just having different measures of how much change we were talking about.

There were a few songs I enjoyed, but yeah, definitely a disappointment.

[putup or shutup]

Oberst is cool, but he's no Dylan.

[checkered.stars]

Wasn't there an article on this before? Weird.

[Yes. And?]

no, OP is right. bright eyes is pretty overrated.
lol, it took me a sec to get that. :-d

[handlikesecret]

must the comparisons continue?

[Neo Cassady]

hahahahaha

I'm a big fan of both Oberst and Dylan but this statement is more and more ridiculous every time I hear it.

[Machu505]

Never heard that one before.

[Jumpoff]

Not an Oberst fan at all.

I also do not want a new Dylan. Hell, I rather just have people do their own thing than emulate another artist, regardless of whether or not that other artist is great.

[versus_god]

Chemical Toilet is the modern Bob Dylan.

[_jonas]

Now let's not forget Weezy...

[Jumpoff]

Alexis, I thought Joey Cape was the new Bob Dylan.

[versus_god]

The Ergs! are the new Bob Dylan.

[imahoodlum]

i bet rolling stone magazine filled your brain with this....? i hate rolling stone.

[Jumpoff]

i bet rolling stone magazine filled your brain with this....? i hate rolling stone.

It's like you are saying rolling stone's isn't infalliable!

I might have to cover me ears and scream lalalalala.

[thespearkid]

Geez. Why is everyone always looking for the next Dylan/Beatles/Queen/etc.? The next huge music revolution isn't going to sound like any of those guys.

[notoaststereo]

Bright Eyes/Conor Oberst is incredibly overrated.

[Kid B]

Geez. Why is everyone always looking for the next Dylan/Beatles/Queen/etc.? The next huge music revolution isn't going to sound like any of those guys.
You're right. Radiohead doesn't sound like any of them.
The point isn't what modern day band sounds like them, it's who is having that kind of effect, influence, impact etc. Radiohead is probably the closest thing out there to that.

Second thought, scrap that. The Jonas Brothers are making a bigger impact.

[checkered.stars]

the jonas brothers are the new beatles omgz!!

[Jumpoff]

the jonas brothers are the new beatles omgz!!

Lol don't compare The Jonas Brothers to that shit band. The Jonas Brothers actually matter.

[checkered.stars]

Lol don't compare The Jonas Brothers to that shit band. The Jonas Brothers actually matter.
Seriously. They give music a new meaning. They even play a fucking tambourine.

[Jumpoff]

Seriously. They give music a new meaning. They even play a fucking tambourine.

Yeah. They have a real tambourine man. They really ARE the new Dylan.

[checkered.stars]

Yeah. They have a real tambourine man. They really ARE the new Dylan.
It's like Bob Dylan x3.

[Kid B]

Bob Dylan doesn't even know how to sing. The JoBros have the best voices I've ever heard OMFG

[Jumpoff]

Fuck you man you insulted Joey Cape.

[checkered.stars]

Hahaha defend the Cape!

[thespearkid]

Ha. People used to say Max Bemis was the next Dylan.

[IWasaCamera]

Never heard/read that one before.

[micahistheballs]

Ha. People used to say Max Bemis was the next Dylan.
That has to be a joke.

[Jumpoff]

Never heard/read that one before.

Those forefathers (names such as Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, John Lennon and Paul McCartney come to mind), were able to capture an attitude and honesty of a generation and its environmental surroundings, and bottle this into a musical vessel that will transcend the tests of time. Please return your seat backs and tray tables to their full and upright positions - a similiar musical actualization may have just taken place right in front of our very eyes. The hyperbole found herein is in no way supposed to be taken as an act of "hype," but instead should be construed as my emotions and thoughts as best as I can seem to construct them into words.

Much like those history vindicated musical prophets, it takes a culmination of sly wit and risk taking to step into a terrain not common place in the music industry. When formulas and hooks are more important than the art of making music, and telling the honest story of life, it takes, like nature, a mutant or variation to force an evolutionary transformation. Say Anything is unlike any band you have so far heard.

Regardless of whether your post was a joke or not :whistle:
=

[versus_god]

Hahaha kill me.

[IWasaCamera]

Regardless of whether your post was a joke or not :whistle:
=
Wasn't joking, I really had never seen that before. Wish I could still say that.