i'm so sick of people claiming radiohead are starting a new musical revolution

[x togepi x]

this just in guys, music still sucks.

[Musibach]

???

[IWasaCamera]

haha

[ablueskytragedy]

they're not a bad band, but they are overrated.

[kitti_katt420]

lol...wow i have to say your are only honestly the angriest person i've ever seen on this site. but i agree, that music still sucks, no matter if a band starts a so-called "revolution" or not. and I dont think they started a revolution so much as people are followers by nature. Other bands see an established influential band do something and they feel like they have to do it too. That and i think people were just genuinly shocked that Radiohead werent acting like greedy bastards. Some people just cant handle the idea that some bands still make music to make music. I do think it was cool Radiohead to put it in the hands of their fans. It's nice to know that we arent seen a simply doller signs.

[chipdip18]

lol...wow i have to say your are only honestly the angriest person i've ever seen on this site. but i agree, that music still sucks, no matter if a band starts a so-called "revolution" or not. and I dont think they started a revolution so much as people are followers by nature. Other bands see an established influential band do something and they feel like they have to do it too. That and i think people were just genuinly shocked that Radiohead werent acting like greedy bastards. Some people just cant handle the idea that some bands still make music to make music. I do think it was cool Radiohead to put it in the hands of their fans. It's nice to know that we arent seen a simply doller signs.


Joke! Real the Welcome to the Music Forum article.

[mht]

lolol

[micahistheballs]

I think they're quite possibly the best band making music right now, but agree that they're not starting any sort of revolution. They're just doing what they do better than anyone else is.

[kitti_katt420]

Joke! Real the Welcome to the Music Forum article.


WHAT??

[Troggy]

"I have no idea what you are talking about"

<3 bodysnatchers

[x togepi x]

I think they're quite possibly the best band making music right now, but agree that they're not starting any sort of revolution. They're just doing what they do better than anyone else is.

this is completely wrong.

[kitti_katt420]

this is completely wrong.

how can it be wrong to state an opinion?

[versus_god]

I don't like Radiohead. Whatever, you know? Whatever.

[Smash Adams]

ick and tired of hearing
All these people talk about
What's the deal with this pop life
And when is it gonna fade out
The thing you got to realize
What we doing is not a trend
We got the gift of melody
We gonna bring it till the end
(Come on now)

[x togepi x]

how can it be wrong to state an opinion?

i would type a response to this but i see that your favorite album is by sublime, so what's the point?

[Jumpoff]

5DmYLrxR0Y8

[kitti_katt420]

i would type a response to this but i see that your favorite album is by sublime, so what's the point?

yes, my favorite album is by Sublime. Who happens to be my favorite band. Once again, it's an OPINION. Just becuase you don't agree does not make you smarter or "cooler" than anyone else. Does it make you feel good to cut down random strangers online? Have fun sitting at your computer taking out all your insecurities on people you have never met. I hope you sleep better tonight.

[thespearkid]

I don't like Radiohead. :shrug:

[Jumpoff]

yes, my favorite album is by Sublime. Who happens to be my favorite band. Once again, it's an OPINION. Just becuase you don't agree does not make you smarter or "cooler" than anyone else. Does it make you feel good to cut down random strangers online? Have fun sitting at your computer taking out all your insecurities on people you have never met. I hope you sleep better tonight.

I love sublime too!

But on a side note, stop writing such long posts. You are wasting your time.

and just to be a spelling nazi, it's you're not your in your tag line.

[x togepi x]

yes, my favorite album is by Sublime. Who happens to be my favorite band. Once again, it's an OPINION. Just becuase you don't agree does not make you smarter or "cooler" than anyone else. Does it make you feel good to cut down random strangers online? Have fun sitting at your computer taking out all your insecurities on people you have never met. I hope you sleep better tonight.

the fact that i play five instruments is what makes me smarter than you, the fact that i don't like shitty bands like sublime is just icing on the cake.

i have no insecurities. i'm really quite awesome, and that's me being modest.

[Yes. And?]

I shouldn't be laughing this hard when I'm eating. If I choke, my family will sue you, togepi!

[x togepi x]

I shouldn't be laughing this hard when I'm eating. If I choke, my family will sue you, togepi!

i'm not responsible for any accidents.

[Jumpoff]

i'm not responsible for any accidents.

Should be a disclaimer in your sig.

[x togepi x]

have you seen my sig? it is totally relevant here.

[Jumpoff]

Hahaha, I haven't actually. But good stuff.

I think you may be doing what Summer Skin hasn't been able to do as much lately due to job constraints and it's working out fine :popcorn:

[Getup and Dance]

Panic! At The Disco is starting the new musical revolution.

[x togepi x]

Hahaha, I haven't actually. But good stuff.

I think you may be doing what Summer Skin hasn't been able to do as much lately due to job constraints and it's working out fine :popcorn:

that's what happens when i get stuck at my parent's house waiting on my car to get fixed.

[Jumpoff]

Car accident or just random problems?

I'll never get my permit because my birth certificate is somewhere in New York and everytime I have it delivered it gets returned for some reason.

[thespearkid]

This guy's starting the new musical revolution:

http://www.mondotees.com/ProductImages/decals/che202.jpg

[x togepi x]

Car accident or just random problems?

I'll never get my permit because my birth certificate is somewhere in New York and everytime I have it delivered it gets returned for some reasoned.

no brakes...

but yeah that sucks for you.

[Jumpoff]

When we start the revolution all you'll probably do is snitch

:dance: Good time to break out this record.

[handlikesecret]

:yawn:

[kitti_katt420]

the fact that i play five instruments is what makes me smarter than you, the fact that i don't like shitty bands like sublime is just icing on the cake.

i have no insecurities. i'm really quite awesome, and that's me being modest.

Your not awesome. you are defined by what's on your IPod and how many people you can make fun of on absolute punk. Have fun with your "five instruments". though i dont think the skin flute actually qualifies as an instrument.

[Jumpoff]

Your not awesome. you are defined by what's on your IPod and how many people you can make fun of on absolute punk. Have fun with your "five instruments". though i dont think the skin flute actually qualifies as an instrument.

lol Skin flute.

[x togepi x]

Your not awesome. you are defined by what's on your IPod and how many people you can make fun of on absolute punk. Have fun with your "five instruments". though i dont think the skin flute actually qualifies as an instrument.

oh shit, add that to sax, guitar, piano, bass, and laptop and that makes six.

[IWasaCamera]

You are defined by what's on your iPod haha.

[Yes. And?]

Too punx for an ipod, try vinyl.

[kitti_katt420]

oh shit, add that to sax, guitar, piano, bass, and laptop and that makes six.
a laptop? oh. my. god. you can use a LAPTOP!! YOU ARE THE SMARTEST PERSON ALIVE!

[alltimecam]

Your not awesome. you are defined by what's on your IPod and how many people you can make fun of on absolute punk. Have fun with your "five instruments". though i dont think the skin flute actually qualifies as an instrument.
hahahahh skin flute
classic

[alltimecam]

plus does "laptop" qualify as an instrument

[mht]

Your not awesome. you are defined by what's on your IPod and how many people you can make fun of on absolute punk. Have fun with your "five instruments". though i dont think the skin flute actually qualifies as an instrument.

lol

[x togepi x]

plus does "laptop" qualify as an instrument

it does when you are using it to make noise music.

[IWasaCamera]

Keep fanning the flames please. Only thread I care for at the moment.

[x togepi x]

a laptop? oh. my. god. you can use a LAPTOP!! YOU ARE THE SMARTEST PERSON ALIVE!

you obviously lack this skill Ms. "Your not awesome".

[thespearkid]

The term "skin flute" always make me laugh because I got my first blowjob from a flute player in the bandroom.

[BlinkinDuke]

no brakes...

but yeah that sucks for you.

Bah, brakes are overrated. They just keep you from actually getting where you need to

[x togepi x]

The term "skin flute" always make me laugh because I got my first blowjob from a flute player in the bandroom.

and this thread has a winner.

[x togepi x]

Bah, brakes are overrated. They just keep you from actually getting where you need to

the way i drive, they keep me from slamming into whoever is in front of me.

fuck cars ride bikes.

[SickOfStars]

have you seen my sig? it is totally relevant here.

I made that for lulz! not evil!

[BlinkinDuke]

the way i drive, they keep me from slamming into whoever is in front of me.

fuck cars ride bikes.

Braking isn't punk

fuck the two, ride skateboards.

Though that leads to those skateboarding skinheads

[kitti_katt420]

you obviously lack this skill Ms. "Your not awesome".

well that could be becuase i actually have a REAL job and a REAl life and i don't have time to sit around and play 5 instruments and my laptop all day.

[x togepi x]

well that could be becuase i actually have a REAL job and a REAl life and i don't have time to sit around and play 5 instruments and my laptop all day.


wait a minute

so the fact that i have time to play 4 legit instruments and one that barely counts while you have to work all the time is somehow an insult?

OH YOU REALLY ZINGED ME.

[alltimecam]

you obviously lack this skill Ms. "Your not awesome".
i guess you can't use it that well, it should be you're not awesome

it does when you are using it to make noise music.
who can't do that?

[x togepi x]

i guess you can't use it that well, it should be you're not awesome

WOAH THERE BOLDY MCBOLD

i was quoting something she said, hence putting "your not awesome" in quotes.


who can't do that?

okay, make me a noise song right now using your computer. i have a program for generating music, it's kind of complicated, blah blah. i'm not sure i even want to justify this anymore.

[kitti_katt420]

i guess you can't use it that well, it should be you're not awesome


who can't do that?

awww...let him feel special that he can use a laptop to make music no one is ever going to care about. Obviously, He's an artist.

[kitti_katt420]

WOAH THERE BOLDY MCBOLD

i was quoting something she said, hence putting "your not awesome" in quotes.




okay, make me a noise song right now using your computer. i have a program for generating music, it's kind of complicated, blah blah. i'm not sure i even want to justify this anymore.


so shut up.

[x togepi x]

awww...let him feel special that he can use a laptop to make music no one is ever going to care about. Obviously, He's an artist.

People do care, since people like my band/want to start other bands with me.

i'm an artist?

fuck you.

I AM ART.

[thesafeword]

2 noobs, 1 x togepi x and an awkward noise song in the background.

[Jumpoff]

plus does "laptop" qualify as an instrument


You need to listen to more Bomb the Music Industry, obvz.

[x togepi x]

2 noobs, 1 x togepi x and an awkward noise song in the background.

if only i could use this as a title on myspace, but it's too long.

[allhourcymbals]

I don't like Radiohead. Whatever, you know? Whatever.
Yeah, I know, you know?

[versus_god]

Putting the F back in art.

[versus_god]

You need to listen to more Bomb the Music Industry, obvz.
Totez.

[x togepi x]

bomb the music industry is way better than anything i've written

[thesafeword]

if only i could use this as a title on myspace, but it's too long.
Schucks.

[x togepi x]

yeah oh well, my macbook is out of commission right now anyway.

[allhourcymbals]

i make music with my macbook pro and love btmi! too. you know?

[hailthewarrior]

Putting the F back in art.

i chuckled

[x togepi x]

i make music with my macbook pro and love btmi! too. you know?

what programs do you use?

[micahistheballs]

this is completely wrong.
Oh my. Clear it up for me.

[allhourcymbals]

what programs do you use?
i am poor, so garage band.

[x togepi x]

Oh my. Clear it up for me.

considering there are about fifty million bands with completely different outlooks in music, i have a hard time saying one band is unequivocally the best band in music today.

[x togepi x]

i am poor, so garage band.

poor? you have a macbook pro! i'm still rocking the junior model.

[allhourcymbals]

poor? you have a macbook pro! i'm still rocking the junior model.
it was a gift two years ago. even if i did buy it, it'd be the reason i was poor now :-(

edit: i want to sell it and get a regular macbook, but it's soo scratched up and like, no one would want it for a decent price haha.

[Jumpoff]

I bootlegged fruity loops. I suppose that makes me a music maker of sorts.

[x togepi x]

it was a gift two years ago. even if i did buy it, it'd be the reason i was poor now :-(

edit: i want to sell it and get a regular macbook, but it's soo scratched up and like, no one would want it for a decent price haha.

oh that sucks...yeah the resale value on a macbook isn't that much. mine is all covered in band stickers so i'd never want to get rid of it.

[micahistheballs]

considering there are about fifty million bands with completely different outlooks in music, i have a hard time saying one band is unequivocally the best band in music today.
That's a fair statement. I'm one of the biggest Radiohead fans on the boards so I'm obviously a tad biased. I don't think they're as influential as a lot of people around here say they are, but they do make damn good music.

[x togepi x]

I bootlegged fruity loops. I suppose that makes me a music maker of sorts.

this is more in what i was talking about, like actually making music instead of recording stuff. i think it counts if you know what you're doing with it.

[allhourcymbals]

oh that sucks...yeah the resale value on a macbook isn't that much. mine is all covered in band stickers so i'd never want to get rid of it.
i only have one on it because the area to the right of the trackpad started disintegrating hahaha. i don't know how. from the heat from my hand? i don't know man, you know? :-(

[x togepi x]

i only have one on it because the area to the right of the trackpad started disintegrating hahaha. i don't know how. from the heat from my hand? i don't know man, you know? :-(

what color is it?

[allhourcymbals]

this is more in what i was talking about, like actually making music instead of recording stuff. i think it counts if you know what you're doing with it.
oh. i record. just me and my guitar. occasionally, andrew (theotherandrew) records guitar for me because i don't really know how to play, i just pretend.

[x togepi x]

oh. i record. just me and my guitar. occasionally, andrew (theotherandrew) records guitar for me because i don't really know how to play, i just pretend.

garage band is surprisingly awesome for what it is i think.

[allhourcymbals]

what color is it?
the disintegration? or the macbook pro? because they only come in silver. and it just looks like a bunch of tiny scratches, but it's very noticable. i'd take a picture, but then it'd ruin the sticker.

[x togepi x]

the disintegration? or the macbook pro? because they only come in silver. and it just looks like a bunch of tiny scratches, but it's very noticable. i'd take a picture, but then it'd ruin the sticker.

the reason i asked was i used to have a silver laptop and it had the same discoloration thing. i think that's a thing that happens sometimes. it sucks but what can you do?

[allhourcymbals]

garage band is surprisingly awesome for what it is i think.
yes, and you don't even have to know how to play an instrument. just press keys, and presto! piano! i love it.

[Jumpoff]

this is more in what i was talking about, like actually making music instead of recording stuff. i think it counts if you know what you're doing with it.

Yeah. Beautiful things have been made with Fruity Loops. Love 9th Wonder's work haha.

[allhourcymbals]

the reason i asked was i used to have a silver laptop and it had the same discoloration thing. i think that's a thing that happens sometimes. it sucks but what can you do?
ay dios mio. oh well. it doesn't bother me, except now i can't sell it for a good price. i love it anyway.

[x togepi x]

yes, and you don't even have to know how to play an instrument. just press keys, and presto! piano! i love it.

i was so bad at playing piano on the laptop keyboard. did you ever have better luck?

[allhourcymbals]

i was so bad at playing piano on the laptop keyboard. did you ever have better luck?
nothing too spectacular. i don't have anything finished and uploaded right now though haha. i usually just play one bar, and then fix it up to align it the way i want, with timing and everything, and then copy and paste.

[x togepi x]

nothing too spectacular. i don't have anything finished and uploaded right now though haha. i usually just play one bar, and then fix it up to align it the way i want, with timing and everything, and then copy and paste.

i could never make anything i was at all happy with it. i usually just midi keyboarded it up with the patches until i got a real synth.

[alltimecam]

okay, make me a noise song right now using your computer. i have a program for generating music, it's kind of complicated, blah blah. i'm not sure i even want to justify this anymore.
i too have a program for creating music, it certainly does not qualify as an instrument though

[mattybobviously]

togepi, what programs are you writing music in on your mac? I'm looking at picking up a mac soon and am trying to figure out what stuff I'm going to want to put on it, since it's primarily going to be for music.

[x togepi x]

i too have a program for creating music, it certainly does not qualify as an instrument though

define instrument for me then.

[allhourcymbals]

i could never make anything i was at all happy with it. i usually just midi keyboarded it up with the patches until i got a real synth.
i don't use the synth settings or anything. i record my guitar and put piano in the background, and i usually have it on "bright piano" or whatever.

[x togepi x]

togepi, what programs are you writing music in on your mac? I'm looking at picking up a mac soon and am trying to figure out what stuff I'm going to want to put on it, since it's primarily going to be for music.

what are you trying to do with it?

like, i have ableton live, garage band, logic pro,

and then i have weird shit like gleetchlab.

[x togepi x]

i don't use the synth settings or anything. i record my guitar and put piano in the background, and i usually have it on "bright piano" or whatever.

yeah but that stuff can be cool. i mainly got into using the synth settings because i joined a band playing keyboards before i had one.

[allhourcymbals]

yeah but that stuff can be cool. i mainly got into using the synth settings because i joined a band playing keyboards before i had one.
i've messed around with it, but it's not the kind of music that i make/record haha.

[mht]

togepi you may play 5 instruments, but you have to actually be good at them. your shit bands and their musical output prove you lack the talent to be considered a good mutli-musician. So you're argument against this female is void.

[x togepi x]

i've messed around with it, but it's not the kind of music that i make/record haha.

yeah, you don't want throw shit in that doesn't fit, like most people do with synths.

[alltimecam]

define instrument for me then.
well if you really want to count that as an instrument you play then go for it, but it seems really stupid that you can press a bunch of buttons and say that you are doing the same thing as people who have spent years mastering the piano or guitar or another real instrument

[mattybobviously]

what are you trying to do with it?

like, i have ableton live, garage band, logic pro,

and then i have weird shit like gleetchlab.

Minimalist electronic stuff mostly, maybe dabble in some noise. I'll be recording folk stuff and some indie-rock, but I'm more interested in having something I can put together electronic stuff in.

[x togepi x]

togepi you may play 5 instruments, but you have to actually be good at them. your shit bands and their musical output prove you lack the talent to be considered a good mutli-musician. So you're argument against this female is void.

my bad sucks. oh well. people buy into it.

[allhourcymbals]

link to this supposedly shitty band so i can hear for myself?

[x togepi x]

Minimalist electronic stuff mostly, maybe dabble in some noise. I'll be recording folk stuff and some indie-rock, but I'm more interested in having something I can put together electronic stuff in.

get ableton live then. it's perfect for what you want to do.

[mht]

nobody buys into. your band does suck, thus you musical talent lacks.

it would be a valid argument/rebuttal against this girl if you were actually good at the 5 instruments, but the evidence does prove opposite of that.

[allhourcymbals]

who's arguing?

[Jumpoff]

well if you really want to count that as an instrument you play then go for it, but it seems really stupid that you can press a bunch of buttons and say that you are doing the same thing as people who have spent years mastering the piano or guitar or another real instrument

Well, anyone can play the same shitty stuff on what you consider a real instrument as everyone else. Also, it's quite difficult to make something worthwhile through a laptop.. unless you are the type of person who just finds a good sample and speeds it up. Won't name names, though.

[x togepi x]

well if you really want to count that as an instrument you play then go for it, but it seems really stupid that you can press a bunch of buttons and say that you are doing the same thing as people who have spent years mastering the piano or guitar or another real instrument

define real instrument.

because it seems to me that you're now saying that electronica isn't real music, nor does it take as much talent as someone who's "mastered" a so-called real instrument, which is about the most ignorant thing i've heard tonight.

[mht]

who's arguing?


togepi claims that because he can play 5 instruments and this girl's favorite album is Sublime, that she knows less about what is musically good/talented out there.


These Arms Are Snakes is not musical talent. Any 30 something gay that was in a terrible math metalcore shit band in his younger years can now play a cheesy microkorg and make stupid noises for a trendy long named band like that.

Sublime at least were simple about their music formula and probably knew they sucked. That's the difference.

[alltimecam]

Well, anyone can play the same shitty stuff on what you consider a real instrument as everyone else. Also, it's quite difficult to make something worthwhile through a laptop.. unless you are the type of person who just finds a good sample and speeds it up. Won't name names, though.
im not talking about making music im talking about playing it
if you can play difficult songs on the guitar then you are playing the instrument
and if you are talking about girl talk there is no one else who is doing what he is and receiving the same amount of fame so he has to be doing something right

[x togepi x]

togepi claims that because he can play 5 instruments and this girl's favorite album is Sublime, that she knows less about what is musically good/talented out there.


These Arms Are Snakes is not musical talent. Any 30 something gay that was in a terrible math metalcore shit band in his younger years can now play a cheesy microkorg and make stupid noises for a trendy long named band like that.

Sublime at least were simple about their music formula and probably knew they sucked. That's the difference.

woah there chief, you left out the mars volta.

[Jumpoff]

im not talking about making music im talking about playing it
if you can play difficult songs on the guitar then you are playing the instrument
and if you are talking about girl talk there is no one else who is doing what he is and receiving the same amount of fame so he has to be doing something right

I don't care about girl talk to be honest I'm talking about hip hop. And if he does that then he's doing the same shit Kanye West is.

[allhourcymbals]

oh, alright. i still haven't heard this band.

[Yes. And?]

I'm dyin' right now. :lol:

[alltimecam]

define real instrument.

because it seems to me that you're now saying that electronica isn't real music, nor does it take as much talent as someone who's "mastered" a so-called real instrument, which is about the most ignorant thing i've heard tonight.
thats not my point at all
but if you were a band and you went out on stage you would not be able to play that laptop the same that you would play a guitar or piano or the drums

[mht]

you dont need to hear it. just know they suck. it's a given, like waking up and breathing air everyday.

[oldwirehands]

I have to disagree greatly. Music has definitely evolved. And there are still great composers and musicians around. Music just isn't as happy anymore.

[alltimecam]

I don't care about girl talk to be honest I'm talking about hip hop. And if he does that then he's doing the same shit Kanye West is.
when you say "if he does that" who is he togepi?

[x togepi x]

im not talking about making music im talking about playing it
if you can play difficult songs on the guitar then you are playing the instrument
and if you are talking about girl talk there is no one else who is doing what he is and receiving the same amount of fame so he has to be doing something right

Who says I can't play the songs live?

and the fact that you think there's "no one else" doing what Girl Talk is doing is ridiculous. and live, all that dude does is basically push play on his macbook and dance around.

[Jumpoff]

oh, alright. i still haven't heard this band.

which?

[x togepi x]

thats not my point at all
but if you were a band and you went out on stage you would not be able to play that laptop the same that you would play a guitar or piano or the drums

Yes, I actually can. I'm not talking about pre-recorded shit here.

[Jumpoff]

when you say "if he does that" who is he togepi?

Girl Talk?

[allhourcymbals]

you dont need to hear it. just know they suck. it's a given, like waking up and breathing air everyday.
i'd still like to hear it.
I have to disagree greatly. Music has definitely evolved. And there are still great composers and musicians around. Music just isn't as happy anymore.

Why do you say this?

I think we come across less genuine bands today, meaning more are in it for something other than the music, and that's a shame.

[x togepi x]

oh, alright. i still haven't heard this band.

myspace.com/shorthistories

don't care if anyone hates it. it's fun as hell and some people like it.

[alltimecam]

Yes, I actually can. I'm not talking about pre-recorded shit here.
then what are you talking about?

[x togepi x]

Girl Talk?

yes, girl talk. my friends who have seen girl talk said when he plays live, all he does is push play on his laptop and then dance around and get naked.

[alltimecam]

Who says I can't play the songs live?

and the fact that you think there's "no one else" doing what Girl Talk is doing is ridiculous. and live, all that dude does is basically push play on his macbook and dance around.
i said no one else is doing it and receiving the amount of fame he is

[TMS2787]

Great thread. 10/10. Reading again.

[x togepi x]

i said no one else is doing it and receiving the amount of fame he is

who gives a shit about fame? it has no correlation with talent.

and A-Trak is proof that you're wrong.

[Jumpoff]

yes, girl talk. my friends who have seen girl talk said when he plays live, all he does is push play on his laptop and then dance around and get naked.

Nono, I said that because I said if all Girl Talk does is speed up samples as alltimecam said he did then he is the same as Kanye West.

[alltimecam]

who gives a shit about fame? it has no correlation with talent.

and A-Trak is proof that you're wrong.
haha im just responding to you saying-
"and the fact that you think there's "no one else" doing what Girl Talk is doing is ridiculous"

[x togepi x]

then what are you talking about?

i'm talking about making noise music with a laptop. it's like making noise music with a bunch of pedals and a guitar, minus the guitar.

i know, i can see how it'd be confusing especially since i didn't explain it very well.

[alltimecam]

i'm talking about making noise music with a laptop. it's like making noise music with a bunch of pedals and a guitar, minus the guitar.

i know, i can see how it'd be confusing especially since i didn't explain it very well.
well i was not talking to you when i said then what are you talking about
but, if i you are doing what i think you are doing after reading that you still need to know how to play an instrument

[x togepi x]

well i was not talking to you when i said then what are you talking about
but, if i you are doing what i think you are doing after reading that you still need to know how to play an instrument

sure...but you need to know how to play an instrument to play any instrument.

[Yes. And?]

I'm your band's biggest fan because I have the shirt. :-dI can't find it anymore, though!:-(

[x togepi x]

I'm your band's biggest fan because I have the shirt. :-dI can't find it anymore, though!:-(

my band's biggest fan lives somewhat near you. she was brutal as fuck. you probably don't want to cross paths.

[alltimecam]

sure...but you need to know how to play an instrument to play any instrument.
im talking about knowing how to play instruments other than the laptop

[allhourcymbals]

myspace.com/shorthistories

don't care if anyone hates it. it's fun as hell and some people like it.
Not the worst band ever.

[Yes. And?]

my band's biggest fan lives somewhat near you. she was brutal as fuck. you probably don't want to cross paths.
Oh really....

Tell me more. M-(

[allhourcymbals]

im talking about knowing how to play instruments other than the laptop
the laptop is not an instrument. you still need to have some knowledge of how to play an instrument to make any type of music.

[x togepi x]

im talking about knowing how to play instruments other than the laptop

this is all so clusterfucked that i don't even know what's going on anymore, what relevance does this have though?

Not the worst band ever.

haha thanks, i know, not for everyone. whatever. i don't care about people not liking it, i care about people that do.

[alltimecam]

the laptop is not an instrument. you still need to have some knowledge of how to play an instrument to make any type of music.
thats what i have been trying to say this entire thread and for some reason im being treated like an idiot

[x togepi x]

thats what i have been trying to say this entire thread and for some reason im being treated like an idiot

I have asked you to define instrument, because the way i'm using a laptop, it can be considered one.

[Yes. And?]

OR DON'T.

I'm going to bed. :yawn:

[x togepi x]

i don't know what more there's to say.

[chaosB4storm]

this is all so clusterfucked that i don't even know what's going on anymore, what relevance does this have though?



haha thanks, i know, not for everyone. whatever. i don't care about people not liking it, i care about people that do.

Your music reminds me of my music NOT because they are similar in any way, but because I think it's decent but I'm not sure what kind of mood I should be in to maximise the enjoyment. Any thoughts?

[notoaststereo]

good music, not musical revolution.

[alltimecam]

this is all so clusterfucked that i don't even know what's going on anymore, what relevance does this have though?


im just trying to say as i have been this entire thread that its harder to play a piano/sax/guitar/clarinet etc than it is to "play" the laptop

[x togepi x]

Your music reminds me of my music NOT because they are similar in any way, but because I think it's decent but I'm not sure what kind of mood I should be in to maximise the enjoyment. Any thoughts?

haha. drugs. it reminds you of drugs. but thanks.

[chaosB4storm]

haha. drugs. it reminds you of drugs. but thanks.

I figured...

[alltimecam]

I have asked you to define instrument, because the way i'm using a laptop, it can be considered one.
an instrument would be considered something you use to produce/create music
a laptop fits in that description but i feel its different than playing the other instruments you listed

[x togepi x]

good music, not musical revolution.

yes, this.

m just trying to say as i have been this entire thread that its harder to play a piano/sax/guitar/clarinet etc than it is to "play" the laptop

Maybe, but we don't determine the definition of an instrument by how hard it is to play.

[Yes. And?]

i don't know what more there's to say.
You could find more on AIM......
.....

[chaosB4storm]

So the next step would be to define "real instrument" haha.

[x togepi x]

an instrument would be considered something you use to produce/create music
a laptop fits in that description but i feel its different than playing the other instruments you listed

how is it different?

you're just not thinking outside the box.

[x togepi x]

You could find more on AIM......
.....

maybe.

[Yes. And?]

maybe.
Nah. 'night.

[alltimecam]

how is it different?

you're just not thinking outside the box.
im not even going to argue anymore because you obviously agreed with me a little over an hour ago by saying
"wait a minute

so the fact that i have time to play 4 legit instruments and one that barely counts while you have to work all the time is somehow an insult?

OH YOU REALLY ZINGED ME"
proving that you too don't believe that the laptop counts as a "legit" instrument

[x togepi x]

Nah. 'night.

meh

[thesafeword]

But you can't quote, so who really wins here?

[x togepi x]

im not even going to argue anymore because you obviously agreed with me a little over an hour ago by saying
"wait a minute

so the fact that i have time to play 4 legit instruments and one that barely counts while you have to work all the time is somehow an insult?

OH YOU REALLY ZINGED ME"
proving that you too don't believe that the laptop counts as a "legit" instrument

see, now you're just backed into a corner so you're going to leave.

what i meant by that statement is that some people aren't going to consider a laptop and instrument, so it barely counts. it doesn't really matter since by all standards provided in this thread, i've shown that it is one.

[Yes. And?]

meh
OUCH. :-0

[x togepi x]

OUCH. :-0

what did you expect, me to get all anxious that you'd get on aim?

[chaosB4storm]

But you can't quote, so who really wins here?

This was neccessary.

[Yes. And?]

what did you expect, me to get all anxious that you'd get on aim?
No. :-( :sadangel:

[chaosB4storm]

I am convinced that absolutely no argument can be put forth that would deem the laptop as not an instument.

[notoaststereo]

awesome thread btw

[x togepi x]

awesome thread btw

it makes me laugh, which is why i did it. i'm glad other people enjoyed it.

[alltimecam]

see, now you're just backed into a corner so you're going to leave.

what i meant by that statement is that some people aren't going to consider a laptop and instrument, so it barely counts. it doesn't really matter since by all standards provided in this thread, i've shown that it is one.
by definition you are correct a laptop would qualify as an instrument
but it will never be the same as the other instruments you play in my opinion

[allhourcymbals]

this is all so clusterfucked that i don't even know what's going on anymore, what relevance does this have though?



haha thanks, i know, not for everyone. whatever. i don't care about people not liking it, i care about people that do.
i can dig it. feels like something's missing though.

[x togepi x]

No. :-( :sadangel:

okay maybe for a second.....

[Yes. And?]

Wait, so we're arguing about laptops?

[x togepi x]

by definition you are correct a laptop would qualify as an instrument
but it will never be the same as the other instruments you play in my opinion

why?, other than the fact that a laptop can have more than one function?

[allhourcymbals]

You could find more on AIM......
.....
how would you change the color of my avatar in photoshop without it losing quality? i'm kind of hopeless :-(

[x togepi x]

i can dig it. feels like something's missing though.

haha thanks. there's a lot missing i think, but those demos are pretty rough. i wish we'd just write new songs.

[Yes. And?]

okay maybe for a second.....
I KNEW IT. I OWN YOU! *maniacal laughter*

[chaosB4storm]

by definition you are correct a laptop would qualify as an instrument
but it will never be the same as the other instruments you play in my opinion

Honestly, I think the only thing that makes you have this opinion is the fact that laptops can do things other than create music. If a laptop could only create music, I doubt you would be arguing here. Also, all instrument have varying degrees of difficulty so...

[x togepi x]

I KNEW IT. I OWN YOU! *maniacal laughter*

haha no you don't

[chaosB4storm]

why?, other than the fact that a laptop can have more than one function?

haha exactly.

[Yes. And?]

how would you change the color of my avatar in photoshop without it losing quality? i'm kind of hopeless :-(
Mess around selective coloring and color balance. There are a lot of really great tutorials on livejorunal I can give you.

Also, saving images as PNG files rather than JPG files helps.

[Yes. And?]

haha no you don't
Whatever. :-/

[allhourcymbals]

haha thanks. there's a lot missing i think, but those demos are pretty rough. i wish we'd just write new songs.
So just do it! Take initiative haha.
Mess around selective coloring and color balance. There are a lot of really great tutorials on livejorunal I can give you.

Also, saving images as PNG files rather than JPG files helps.

I do save as PNG. Or I try to. It won't let me save it directly from photoshop, it has to be a jpeg and then i have to convert that to PNG.. but it seems to come out fine. And eh, don't worry about it, I tried doing that but it just kept making it blurry or something. I should just do it in iphoto.

[x togepi x]

So just do it! Take initiative haha.
.

i wish i knew what was missing in our songs...and yeah we are working on that.

[allhourcymbals]

i wish i knew what was missing in our songs...and yeah we are working on that.
It'll come to you.

[chaosB4storm]

i wish i knew what was missing in our songs...and yeah we are working on that.

Just a thought on the rough demos...a tad anti-climactic?

[x togepi x]

i think it's the fact that those two songs were written before 3 of us were even in the band.

[x togepi x]

Just a thought on the rough demos...a tad anti-climactic?

what do you mean?

[Yes. And?]

So just do it! Take initiative haha.


I do save as PNG. Or I try to. It won't let me save it directly from photoshop, it has to be a jpeg and then i have to convert that to PNG.. but it seems to come out fine. And eh, don't worry about it, I tried doing that but it just kept making it blurry or something. I should just do it in iphoto.
Hmm, I don't know. Here's a big list of tutorials in case you ever need them. http://community.livejournal.com/icon_tutorial/6995003.html

If you want though, you can send me a few images and I'll make you some 110 x 110 images tomorrow.

I'm no expert, but I think I can make you something decent. I make a lot of my own icons:
http://i34.tinypic.com/20f5d20.pnghttp://i35.tinypic.com/15ygec2.pnghttp://i36.tinypic.com/2j4278p.png

Just a sample of what I might be able to do for you. :-d

[Nevuk]

Wait, people beside me dislike radiohead? I thought that was like hating the godfatherq

[Yes. And?]

Wait, people beside me dislike radiohead? I thought that was like hating the godfatherq
Who hates The Godfather? :nono:

[allhourcymbals]

Hmm, I don't know. Here's a big list of tutorials in case you ever need them. http://community.livejournal.com/icon_tutorial/6995003.html

If you want though, you can send me a few images and I'll make you some 110 x 110 images tomorrow.

I'm no expert, but I think I can make you something decent. I make a lot of my own icons:
http://i34.tinypic.com/20f5d20.pnghttp://i35.tinypic.com/15ygec2.pnghttp://i36.tinypic.com/2j4278p.png

Just a sample of what I might be able to do for you. :-d
I just want my avatar to be purple... haha.

[chaosB4storm]

what do you mean?

Like there are multiple changes in the song, and I don't know much about this experimental genre you're into, but the vocals seem to have about the same excitement to them that the intrumental parts do. Actually, there is a lot of excitement throughout. I'm just saying that maybe with some calmer points contrasting the endless excitement it could possibly be more enjoyable.

Again, I don't know much about the type of music you're playing; I might be missing the point.

[Yes. And?]

I just want my avatar to be purple... haha.
Maybe a gradient texture or a fill would help. I can do that too. I think.

[x togepi x]

Like there are multiple changes in the song, and I don't know much about this experimental genre you're into, but the vocals seem to have about the same excitement to them that the intrumental parts do. Actually, there is a lot of excitement throughout. I'm just saying that maybe with some calmer points contrasting the endless excitement it could possibly be more enjoyable.

Again, I don't know much about the type of music you're playing; I might be missing the point.

see, i always thought the vocals seemed less exciting and phoned in.

you haven't heard the songs with calmer parts and no or sung vocals so maybe the criticism you're throwing out here has already been answered in our other songs.

[Nevuk]

Who hates The Godfather? :nono:
I actually don't dislike it, but there've been better movies made. Its just... I've never actually met anyone who disliked radiohead or didn't like the godfather.

[allhourcymbals]

Maybe a gradient texture or a fill would help. I can do that too. I think.
I tried fill. It faded it, and eventually it just turned like black. I don't know. I'm hopeless with photoshop haha.

[Yes. And?]

I tried fill. It faded it, and eventually it just turned like black. I don't know. I'm hopeless with photoshop haha.
Did you try put it on soft light or exclusion mode?

[allhourcymbals]

Did you try put it on soft light or exclusion mode?
:shrug:

I'll try it in iphoto tomorrow, and if that doesn't work, then I might ask you 0:-)

[Nevuk]

Yes, I actually can. I'm not talking about pre-recorded shit here.
Yes, I've seen it. He can play live.

(rereading this thread brings the lols)

[Yes. And?]

:shrug:

I'll try it in iphoto tomorrow, and if that doesn't work, then I might ask you 0:-)
Alrighty. Good luck!

[chaosB4storm]

see, i always thought the vocals seemed less exciting and phoned in.

you haven't heard the songs with calmer parts and no or sung vocals so maybe the criticism you're throwing out here has already been answered in our other songs.

Good point, it is a very uneducated opinion. It was just my first impression. Upon my third or fourth listen just now I don't feel as strong about what I said. To be precise, after the 3 minute mark of Sunspot Letters, I was hoping for another really powerful part like near the beginning, But the slow sort of fade out is growing on me.

[x togepi x]

Good point, it is a very uneducated opinion. It was just my first impression. Upon my third or fourth listen just now I don't feel as strong about what I said. To be precise, after the 3 minute mark of Sunspot Letters, I was hoping for another really powerful part like near the beginning, But the slow sort of fade out is growing on me.

oh, right, yeah we don't really like doing things that are expected. hence that song being a noisy clusterfuck

[chaosB4storm]

oh, right, yeah we don't really like doing things that are expected. hence that song being a noisy clusterfuck

Oh, I get it...I'm too mainstream for you lol

[x togepi x]

Oh, I get it...I'm too mainstream for you lol

i wouldn't say for me..i would say for our lead guitar player

[chaosB4storm]

lol alright, fair enough...I really like Fascin by the way. Sunspot Letters is decent, but I really like Fascin.

[BlinkinDuke]

Yes, I've seen it. He can play live.

(rereading this thread brings the lols)

But can he play live well? No, because he's in a noise TAAS/TMV-ripoff band

[x togepi x]

But can he play live well? No, because he's in a noise band

hahahahahaha

[x togepi x]

lol alright, fair enough...I really like Fascin by the way. Sunspot Letters is decent, but I really like Fascin.

well thanks. that's aweosme.

[Yes. And?]

togepi, is ChaosB4Storm your new best friend? :-)

[Nevuk]

But can he play live well? No, because he's in a noise TAAS ripoff- band
I like his band and I don't particularly like TAAS. I may have TAAS confused with quicksand though.

[Nevuk]

togepi, is ChaosB4Storm your new best friend? :-)
hahaha you haven't even looked in the politics forum lately have you?

[x togepi x]

But can he play live well? No, because he's in a noise TAAS ripoff- band


aww that's cute. you left out the mars volta too.

[chaosB4storm]

I saw that Yes. And? posted, and knew it would be something like that...

[Yes. And?]

hahaha you haven't even looked in the politics forum lately have you?Oh, I have.

I saw that Yes. And? posted, and knew it would be something like that...
Uhhh, I'm glad you know me. You are hereby banned from posting in my controversy thread. :redcard:

[x togepi x]

I like his band and I don't particularly like TAAS. I may have TAAS confused with quicksand though.

I don't see how the new stuff rips off TAAS that much. like sunspot letters? no way.

[Nevuk]

I don't see how the new stuff rips off TAAS that much. like sunspot letters? no way.
Wait, you have something new besides Fascin and Sunspot Letters? Threads like these almost make me wish I wasn't going to parties exclusively to get free weed at nights now.

[x togepi x]

Wait, you have something new besides Fascin and Sunspot Letters? Threads like these almost make me wish I wasn't going to parties exclusively to get free weed at nights no.

no we don't, well not recorded, but we used to have other songs on the myspace from before i was in the band and that stuff ripped off TAAS more.

[Nevuk]

I remember that. It did kind of suck.

[x togepi x]

I remember that. It did kind of suck.

it did, but it's hard to say something sucks when you're the new guy.

i mean whatever, I don't see any of the haters posting their bands here.

[BlinkinDuke]

aww that's cute. you left out the mars volta too.

All fixed. I didn't think most people would get the noise band joke. But now people might actually think you guys can actually play your instruments which is strictly against noise band standards

[x togepi x]

All fixed. I didn't think most people would get the noise band joke. But now people might actually think you guys can actually play your instruments which is strictly against noise band standards

haha. sonic youth can't play their instruments?

[BlinkinDuke]

Wait, you have something new besides Fascin and Sunspot Letters? Threads like these almost make me wish I wasn't going to parties exclusively to get free weed at nights now.

But its free weed... although I hate people who just mooch off me. You should throw in a dollar or two, be a little generous

[Nevuk]

But its free weed... although I hate people who just mooch off me. You should throw in a dollar or two, be a little generous
I will next time I'm around, and I usually share, it was just the spirit of the night was pretty much everyone sharing with everyone. And I was just shit out of money or I would've bought some for later anyways.

[Nevuk]

it did, but it's hard to say something sucks when you're the new guy.

i mean whatever, I don't see any of the haters posting their bands here.
I can post my shitty anthony green ripoff band.

Sadly, the new stuff is so shitty I don't even want to rip it off . (dear child )

[chaosB4storm]

I will next time I'm around, and I usually share, it was just the spirit of the night was pretty much everyone sharing with everyone. And I was just shit out of money or I would've bought some for later anyways.

That's what they all say...

even my girlfriend when she cheated on me...

[alltimecam]

Honestly, I think the only thing that makes you have this opinion is the fact that laptops can do things other than create music. If a laptop could only create music, I doubt you would be arguing here. Also, all instrument have varying degrees of difficulty so...
no i just dont think its a traditional musical instrument. try finding sheet music for a laptop or getting into a music conservatory with a laptop
i understand that you can make music using a laptop and that it requires some sort of talent to make it not sound terrible
but in my book i would not really consider it an instrument

[BlinkinDuke]

haha. sonic youth can't play their instruments?

I'm pretty sure I just posted the above rule. Its common knowledge to us. Though Sonic Youth may be the one exception. No more though, we can't have people thinking we know what we're doing.

Fuck now I want to go listen to them, I hope I have something good by them near me

[x togepi x]

I'm pretty sure I just posted the above rule. Its common knowledge to us. Though Sonic Youth may be the one exception. No more though, we can't have people thinking we know what we're doing.

Fuck now I want to go listen to them, I hope I have something good by them near me

what about lighting bolt?

Sonic youth probably is an exception to most rules you'd make about music.

[Nevuk]

That's what they all say...

even my girlfriend when she cheated on me...
Hahahaha, I think a metaphor got mixed somewhere in here. No, most of the people there hadn't seen me in over a year and I'm only in town for 3 days, so its special circumstances.

[chaosB4storm]

no i just dont think its a traditional musical instrument. try finding sheet music for a laptop or getting into a music conservatory with a laptop
i understand that you can make music using a laptop and that it requires some sort of talent to make it not sound terrible
but in my book i would not really consider it an instrument

Traditionalist, eh??? Whatevskis...I'm over it.

[Nevuk]

I wonder what MBV 's live show is like...

[x togepi x]

no i just dont think its a traditional musical instrument. try finding sheet music for a laptop or getting into a music conservatory with a laptop
i understand that you can make music using a laptop and that it requires some sort of talent to make it not sound terrible
but in my book i would not really consider it an instrument

who cares if it's a "traditional instrument" if it makes music?

[BlinkinDuke]

I can post my shitty anthony green ripoff band.

Sadly, the new stuff is so shitty I don't even want to rip it off . (dear child )

Best. Band. Ever.

And just giving you a hard time about the herb, got nothing else to do

what about lighting bolt?

Sonic youth probably is an exception to most rules you'd make about music.

Man, you really know how to kill a joke. And to fuck with my head, making me decide what noise band to listen to.

[chaosB4storm]

Hahahaha, I think a metaphor got mixed somewhere in here. No, most of the people there hadn't seen me in over a year and I'm only in town for 3 days, so its special circumstances.

No I understand, and I didn't let it fly with my girlfriend haha.

Yeah I get high the least often of my friends, so they all want me to get high so bad that usually they're offering it to me for free...I say the weirdest shit when I'm high, and I believe every word of it...

[x togepi x]

Best. Band. Ever.

And just giving you a hard time about the herb, got nothing else to do



Man, you really know how to kill a joke. And to fuck with my head, making me decide what noise band to listen to.

i didn't mean to, i was just name dropping while watching shitty new wave videos on VH1 classic. sorry

[BlinkinDuke]

I wonder what MBV 's live show is like...

I'm envious of my friend who got tickets to that. I'm trying to convince him to take shrooms before the show but I don't think thats gonna happen

[x togepi x]

I'm envious of my friend who got tickets to that. I'm trying to convince him to take shrooms before the show but I don't think thats gonna happen

this is what i was trying to convince my friend to do before TMV but it didn't work out.

[Nevuk]

Best. Band. Ever.

And just giving you a hard time about the herb, got nothing else to do



Man, you really know how to kill a joke. And to fuck with my head, making me decide what noise band to listen to.
I was all excited to mock him one more time this summer, then he goes and releases one of the worst fucking albums ever. Ruined my day.
No I understand, and I didn't let it fly with my girlfriend haha.

Yeah I get high the least often of my friends, so they all want me to get high so bad that usually they're offering it to me for free...I say the weirdest shit when I'm high, and I believe every word of it...
Speaking of sharing girlfriends... I just watched chasing amy. Fucking odd ending to that. Pretty much the same situation on being high here, with this group. (In my group of college friends, I'm the one high the most often, which is weird)

[alltimecam]

who cares if it's a "traditional instrument" if it makes music?
i do

[x togepi x]

i do

that sucks.

[chaosB4storm]

i do

Good answer lol

[BlinkinDuke]

i didn't mean to, i was just name dropping while watching shitty new wave videos on VH1 classic. sorry

If you didn't have a cat that moshed to Capsule, I wouldn't accept that apology. But you do and you also have to suffer through VH1 classic videos.

I think I'm gonna listen to Evol

[x togepi x]

If you didn't have a cat that moshed to Capsule, I wouldn't accept that apology. But you do and you also have to suffer through VH1 classic videos.

I think I'm gonna listen to Evol

hahaha awesome. and suffering stopped when they played a Talking Heads video.

but yeah that's a good choice.

[chaosB4storm]

Speaking of sharing girlfriends... I just watched chasing amy. Fucking odd ending to that. Pretty much the same situation on being high here, with this group. (In my group of college friends, I'm the one high the most often, which is weird)

Same situation, eh...so it was like "look buddy, we don't get to see you to often so...enjoy our girlfriends tonight?" hahaha

I gotta see this movie.

[Nevuk]

It was really ... weird, even for a kevin smith movie.

[BlinkinDuke]

this is what i was trying to convince my friend to do before TMV but it didn't work out.

Its how you tell the namedroppers from the real fans. I don't now how you pass an experience like that up either

I was all excited to mock him one more time this summer, then he goes and releases one of the worst fucking albums ever. Ruined my day.

Speaking of sharing girlfriends... I just watched chasing amy. Fucking odd ending to that. Pretty much the same situation on being high here, with this group. (In my group of college friends, I'm the one high the most often, which is weird)

I didn't even know he released another album. You should just put that shit on the myspace, see if anyone can tell the difference.

Speaking of Chasing Amy, I hated that movie. Though, I could see you being the most high person in any group of people

[x togepi x]

it's the only one of his movies i like post-high school.

[chaosB4storm]

hahaha...yea...

[x togepi x]

Its how you tell the namedroppers from the real fans. I don't now how you pass an experience like that up either


if we hadn't taken his car, he would have, but it didn't work out. he did do that before we played a straight edge fest at a church though, that ruled. Nevuk was there, lots of ranting about land ownership

[chaosB4storm]

I could see you being the most high person in any group of people

Seconded.