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skellorock
08/18/08, 06:48 AM
Who do you think was unfairly lumped into the subgenre that includes limp bizkit, korn, disturbed, need i go on.

skellorock
08/18/08, 07:10 AM
now with deftones, while they might've played alongside some of those bands, have always been more post-hardcore.

incubus is a band who's great in every aspect of their music, and I dont know why they were ever associated with that movement.

powerman 5000, while they were heavy, musically they were in a diffrent realm, with bands like Gwar and the Aquabats. they were essentially Devo-on Steroroids

linkin park, while they added heavy guitars and hip-hop, also added some melody and made decent enough music, which is why they got so big.

system of a down, very crazy sounding(for mainstream) and very political, one might think too political for the likes of nu-metal

papa roach, yeah their debut had some rapping, but they've always seemed to associate themselves more with punk, and I remember the singer mentioning being a Mock Orange fan way back in the day, at least he knew decent music.

P.O.D. might embody alot of what nu-metal is/was, but at least sported their Bad Brains influence, even if they werent quite good enough, as well as having the guitarist from Living Sacrifice, which improved their sound

slimfenix182
08/18/08, 10:33 AM
this boils down to the fact that system of a down is the only band on there that has nothing to do with nu-metal. they are metal, pure and simple. and some of the most original metal in a long time.

The Personist
08/18/08, 11:53 AM
Of all those bands, System of a Down is the most talented and most original. Incubus is far and away the most overrated.

hivesrul
08/18/08, 02:19 PM
Of all those bands, System of a Down is the most talented and most original. Incubus is far and away the most overrated.

wow. system of a down is just like any other overrated political metal band. every song has to do with politics, and i have never seen a band sell out as fast as they did. hence why they are no longer playing together. incubus on the other hand, never really was nu metal, even in there heavier days, and only have quality albums because they actually take time to WRITE. mezmerize and hypnotize are two of the worst albums i've ever heard, mainly because they spent like a week writing them both.


o, and incubus for sure

PaintMeBlue
08/18/08, 04:08 PM
incubus...that band actually had REAL talent... the deftones shouldn't be in associated with them, but i think incubus is most unfairly grouped with those bands.

dearmsleading
08/18/08, 06:57 PM
i was always under the impression that deftones pioneered nu metal, the other bands came along and bastardized it. it's probably why they're still around today while those other bands have pretty much disappeared.
SOAD were just around at the time and toured with those bands- they're pretty damn inventive compared to papa roach, powerman 5000, etc.
incubus have changed so much on each record that i'm not sure you could pigeonhole them into the nu metal genre. the closest they ever came was on SCIENCE, but they went right into that whole spacey weirdness on Make Yourself.

skellorock
08/18/08, 08:13 PM
i was always under the impression that deftones pioneered nu metal, the other bands came along and bastardized it. it's probably why they're still around today while those other bands have pretty much disappeared.
SOAD were just around at the time and toured with those bands- they're pretty damn inventive compared to papa roach, powerman 5000, etc.
incubus have changed so much on each record that i'm not sure you could pigeonhole them into the nu metal genre. the closest they ever came was on SCIENCE, but they went right into that whole spacey weirdness on Make Yourself.

deftones i think were apart of the shaping of it yeah, and I think all those alt-metal/post hardcore stuff like Faith No More(mr. Bungle as well), Helmet, Biohazard, Quicksand, and even Tool kinda set the foundations, and Deftones, Glassjaw, Incubus, Dillinger Escape Plan, Finch, these are the good examples of bands that are a result of that influence

as where all those rap/rock crunch chord bands, i guess they just heard a small element of the music, raped it and made an awful genre out of it

Troggy
08/19/08, 02:45 PM
Incubus is by far the best band on that list. Deftones and SOAD have a little credibility for nu-metal but the rest of that stuff is garbage.

skellorock
08/19/08, 05:41 PM
Incubus is by far the best band on that list. Deftones and SOAD have a little credibility for nu-metal but the rest of that stuff is garbage.

hey now! PM5K are a fun novelty band!!! but yeah, some of those bands have never had much to offer, if anything at all

Troggy
08/19/08, 05:53 PM
hey now! PM5K are a fun novelty band!!! but yeah, some of those bands have never had much to offer, if anything at all

hahaha okay it was fun for 5 minutes but the lasting value was obviously 0. Plus I had to listen to that one song by them all the time on Tony Hawk's pro skater

tonighttonight0
08/19/08, 07:30 PM
ehh...i'd have to give it to the deftones

aradiantsunrise
08/20/08, 05:03 AM
I don't recall ever hearing Incubus getting thrown into that shit. They are too talented for that.

phoenixinflames
08/20/08, 07:44 AM
I haven't voted yet, but I'm debating between Incubus, Deftones and System of a Down because, though each of these band's were born in the nu-metal era, they have grown and surpassed that period and have entered a place in their careers where their extraordinary talent and dependability is recognized and therefore they are able to experiment with their music as much as they desire.

I'll vote later.

notoaststereo
08/20/08, 08:33 AM
incubus and deftones.

radiogirl
08/20/08, 02:52 PM
Incubus fo sho,

I love them and have for a long time, they aren't even close to metal, NU or not.

Roboman
08/20/08, 10:23 PM
I enjoy every band on that list except for Powerman 5000 (never listened to them), so I am definitely not a nu-metal hater. That being said, I think Incubus (one of my all-time favorite bands) fit in the least with the other bands in the poll. They just aren't as heavy as some of the other bands are/can be. I will also agree that Deftones and SOAD are both a bit more unique than the others.

IATA4224
08/22/08, 08:57 AM
deftones i think were apart of the shaping of it yeah, and I think all those alt-metal/post hardcore stuff like Faith No More(mr. Bungle as well), Helmet, Biohazard, Quicksand, and even Tool kinda set the foundations, and Deftones, Glassjaw, Incubus, Dillinger Escape Plan, Finch, these are the good examples of bands that are a result of that influence

as where all those rap/rock crunch chord bands, i guess they just heard a small element of the music, raped it and made an awful genre out of it

Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Helmet, Quicksand, and Tool are not even remotely related to alt-metal or post-hardcore..

It's also a travesty that you could even lump the Dillinger Escape Plan in with the likes of Incubus or Finch..

Glassjaw on the other hand, very similar to the deftones..

yourprivateeye
08/22/08, 02:13 PM
deftones are one of my all time favorite bands.

plus i'm a big fan of incubus and linkin park.

plus the first 2 soad cds are really good.

darkmartheight
08/23/08, 08:33 AM
if people think incubus in nu metal then i believe they are deaf and dumb.

and not good at pin ball.

RunStrong
08/24/08, 12:39 AM
def incubus. i still love sick sad little world. that song alone has more talent in it than most of the bands mentioned.

Machu505
08/24/08, 05:13 AM
Incubus and Deftones.

CloseToShore
08/24/08, 02:35 PM
deftones by far. They were more influenced by bands like Depeche Mode, the Cure, and Bad Brains. Chino always said that he never felt that they were a part of that Limp Bizkit/Korn sound, they just happened to be lumped in with them because of their first release - Adrenaline - and that it had more of their rap/hip-hop influences than all of their other releases combined. Also didn't help that they came around at the same time as those ass clown bands. Just listen to their breakthrough - Around the Fur and you'll hear their new wave/hardcore influences.
I'd throw Incubus in this as well - more Mr. Bungle/Red Hot Chili Peppers (at least in the beginning) than Korn/Limp Bizkit, before they went softer and more rock/pop.

fearthesloths
08/26/08, 05:11 PM
incubus for sure... they dont even have a nu-metal song... or a song that really even sounds close.

deftones also somewhat, while they are guilty of using some factors of nu-metal ... they did it damn good

BruisedxBroken
08/27/08, 07:18 PM
would've liked to have seen 10 years included. how they're labeled nu-metal with such intelligent lyrics and insane musicanship is beyond me...

SuNDaYSTaR
08/27/08, 10:01 PM
I don't recall ever hearing Incubus getting thrown into that shit. They are too talented for that.I think they used to when they released their earlier work.

xglassjawx
08/28/08, 12:52 AM
Incubus, Deftones and SOAD. SOAD are a very talented band and pay a lot of detail to songwriting.

kevinrocks409
08/30/08, 12:47 PM
deftones and incubus should in no way be related to this, they're both just too good.

allthruwinter
08/30/08, 10:48 PM
Who the fuck associates Incubus with nu-metal? Seriously, never heard that one before.

deathbydawn
08/31/08, 11:41 AM
wow. system of a down is just like any other overrated political metal band. every song has to do with politics, and i have never seen a band sell out as fast as they did. hence why they are no longer playing together. incubus on the other hand, never really was nu metal, even in there heavier days, and only have quality albums because they actually take time to WRITE. mezmerize and hypnotize are two of the worst albums i've ever heard, mainly because they spent like a week writing them both.


o, and incubus for sure

SOAD never sold out their sound has stayed pretty consistent (they did mellow somewhat after toxicity but still made good original music) and their lyrics were always political. if anything incubus is overrated. how are incubus not sellouts they sound like every other band on the radio? Plus Incubus talks shit about other bands when they shouldn't. incubus def isn't nu metal tho

CloseToShore
08/31/08, 04:36 PM
I think they used to when they released their earlier work.

Their earlier work was more Mr. Bungle and Red Hot Chili Peppers than nu-metal. They got put into nu-metal because of S.C.I.E.N.C.E. and pulled their own White Pony with Make Yourself.

batmannj
02/02/09, 05:43 PM
Incubus, Deftones, P.O.D. and Linkin Park.

each band actually has changed their sounds from the original album they produced. soad makes pop metal now, papa roach tried to appeal to scene kids, powerman 5000 is not really relevent enough.

jster2000
02/02/09, 06:14 PM
Incubus should not be in the group in any way shape or form.
The same could be said with SOAD but thats up for debate

LongDistanceDrunk
02/02/09, 07:46 PM
Who do you think was unfairly lumped into the subgenre that includes limp bizkit, korn, disturbed, need i go on.
All all the bands are garbage except for Deftones. and Inubus. I honestly will NEVER understand hope someone could like Korn. I honestly would rather listen to Brokencyde or some other Crunkcore band than any of these god awful bands.

LongDistanceDrunk
02/02/09, 07:53 PM
wow. system of a down is just like any other overrated political metal band. every song has to do with politics, and i have never seen a band sell out as fast as they did. hence why they are no longer playing together. incubus on the other hand, never really was nu metal, even in there heavier days, and only have quality albums because they actually take time to WRITE. mezmerize and hypnotize are two of the worst albums i've ever heard, mainly because they spent like a week writing them both.


o, and incubus for sure

I agree completely about SOAD. I remember in 8th grade I thought I was so badass for listening to Toxcicity. I threw that shit out years once I got into good music. I have heard a few of their songs on the radio since and the all sound the same as well as having dumb political lyrics. Why the fuck would the have those lyrics when people mainstream listeners obviously pay no attention to lyrics