"Don't vote, it only encourages them"

[left_punk]

Hey eveyone!
check out this article (http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/ideas/mickeyz_fear.html) about Bush and Kerry, and some other stuff.

[open mind]

i know this sounds crazy, but i think you can cause more changes working within the system then you can outside of it.

[Lueda Alia]

i know this sounds crazy, but i think you can cause more changes working within the system then you can outside of it.
slc punk does rule indeed

[open mind]

i first heard that from my dad, but slc punk is great.

[Love As Arson]

i know this sounds crazy, but i think you can cause more changes working within the system then you can outside of it.
You can force change outside of the system.

[John Kerry]

Yeah, we should all vote for Kerry. He's a good guy.

[commatosa]

There's been so many acts and laws that are directly because america is run on fear. The Salem witch trials, McCarthyism, Japanese detainment camps, Jim Crowe laws, The Patriot Act, etc. The truth is, no politician will ever campaign without scaring the people. It's impossible. Campaigns are run on the sole theory that as long as people are kept ignorant and scared, then they are easily manipulated. The only time to question it is when politicians are scaring them about things that don't exist (ie WMDs, imminent threat, we'll be attacked if the other guy wins, etc.).

[commatosa]

Michael Moore in Bowling for Columbine talks about this a lot.

[open mind]

You can force change outside of the system.
i didn't say you couldn't, i said you can cause more change from within.

[Love As Arson]

i didn't say you couldn't, i said you can cause more change from within.
It's hard to force change when being involved in the system involves the cessation of the morals you hold close.

[open mind]

the same can be said for working from the outside of the system.

[Love As Arson]

the same can be said for working from the outside of the system.
Perhaps, but I'd argue that it is more prevalent inside of the system, which is why many choose to stay outside of it.

[open mind]

you don't have to sell your soul to the devil to work within the system, where are the counter culture figures that aren't hypocritical, self serving, douche bags?

[PunkDrums182]

the problem now is, that not enough people care enough, nobody does anything, they just complain

[left_punk]

the problem now is, that not enough people care enough, nobody does anything, they just complain

Yep ,thats true.
If only a Revolution were as easy as voting. :headshake