Rancid (Offical Thread)

[blink_me_182]

Rancid is amazing. Anyone agree... Whats your favorite rancid cd?

[crappypunkrock]

And out comes the wolves is simply amazing.

[Dr. Acula]

Give me The Clash.

[Joey Mac]

The first three Rancid cd's were amazing, but I'd have to go with the self titled cuz it was in your face and straight up punk... The other two weren't as aggressive, but still great in their own right

[BSS182]

i love them, self titled from 2000 is really really good and i think its my favorite cd by them and probably in my top ten cd's of all time

[crappypunkrock]

i love them, self titled from 2000 is really really good and i think its my favorite cd by them and probably in my top ten cd's of all time
Robby is amazing and gives great blow jobs

[BSS182]

Robby is amazing and gives great blow jobs
branson still sleeps in his parents bed, right between them!!!!!!!:wave:

[crappypunkrock]

branson still sleeps in his parents bed, right between them!!!!!!!:wave:

:wave: I wrote lyrics to my new song on the drive :violin:

[BSS182]

:wave: I wrote lyrics to my new song on the drive :violin:
yay that is wonderful, i am surprised, i didn't know you were capable of all that:rape: i wanna hear them

[crappypunkrock]

yay that is wonderful, i am surprised, i didn't know you were capable of all that:rape: i wanna hear them
I love when you lick my asshole

You will hear them next week

[shit stroll]

shit.

[fran.182]

5 years without a new album...shame

[punkid84]

And Out Come the Wolves...Agreed the best.

[steviestare]

What are they doing right now? I haven't heard anything about them for years.

[timbedinosaur]

Tim Armstrong should have stayed with Operation Ivy

[SwiftSilentDead]

One of the first bands that I really got into. They'll always be one of my favorite bands but I don't listen to them on a daily basis like I used to when I was 14-15. And Out Come The Wolves is one of my favorite albums. Life Wont Wait rules as well.

[Justin_stacy]

any official word on the new record?

[dissident]

yeah, they've officially dropped off the face of the earth at this point and they were supposed to be about done with the record over a year ago.

[polarbearsummer]

yeah, they've officially dropped off the face of the earth at this point and they were supposed to be about done with the record over a year ago.

hahaha

seriously though, I'm tired of waiting. I want it NOW!

[bradsonemanband]

its kinda funny that Brandon from The Used is in Rancid now. but it's also kickass for him since they are his favorite band of all time. it would be like if i was asked to play with Blink 182.

[bradsonemanband]

Update from Branden 1/8/09 (he doesn't even mention Rancid)

Happy New Year and I hope you've all enjoyed the holiday season!! I haven't been on here to do an update in a long time. For that I apologize. But I have been on here to receive your comments, messages and music. Thank you for all your continued support, nice words and for sharing your art with me!! I've really enjoyed this holiday season. I think for every year older I get I appreciate this time of year even more. I value the relationships I have in my life so much and I really love when I get to spend time with my family and friends during this time. I finished touring in early Dec and have enjoyed my break so far spending time here at home with friends and family. I miss tour but it gives me a good time to work on other projects and do the many other things I enjoy to do as well.

For those who don't know, I live in Utah. It has been snowing so much here in the last few weeks!! I did a little snowboarding with a few of my friends Nick and Kyle from Real Salt Lake early on when the snow was first starting to hit us good. That was a lot of fun. Then after the first heavy snow fall we got a group of friends and decided to go sledding on the mountain side near where I live. I really enjoy doing little kid stuff....I don't care, I'm only 30 and I feel like a kid still. I like sledding, making "slip n slides" in the summer, I have adult sized big wheels that are fun as shit, whatever...I'm not gonna stop doing fun shit cause I have a few birthdays. haha. However, I am not getting any younger and my bones are not made of rubber like they seemed to be when I was a kid. I was reminded of this all too well with my 1st attempt at sledding this winter. I took a small plastic saucer sled and went down an extremely steep mountainside hill (that we didnt bother to scope out the bottom....just bombed down it). My first time down the hill was madness!! So fast, so steep, couldnt see a thing cause all the snow in my face, laughing my ass off the whole way down. Unfortunately it flattened out very abruptly at the bottm and there was a large rock about the size of a football just barely under the snow. I landed directly on it with all the force of God coming down that hill. My lower back/upper tailbone smashed directly onto the pointy tip of this rock and blew apart the bottom of my little plastic sled. If I could do 100 exclamation points and caps lock the word "ouch" to describe how it felt, I would. But it wont compare, your imagination cant fully grasp how awesomely painful it was. Hahaha. On the otherside, you can't imagine how incredibly funny the whole thing was too! To sum it up.....stupid. I went to get an xray just to see what I did and sure enough...I broke my tailbone. I broke it real high up (so its not really my ass) but luckily just low enough not to break my spine!! So as a result of that I wasn't able to play drums, snowboard, work out, play soccer, etc etc etc the last few weeks. You don't realize how much everything you do affects your upper tailbone. I now have a whole new appreciation for it. haha. But now I'm doing much better...starting to work out, play soccer a bit, getting into trouble playing indoor soccer with my team. But I'm taking it real easy cause I want to heal up good. Whew, close call!!

Its so nice getting back into being active.... Otherwise I really don't like winter. Its only fun to me if you can play around and do shit to make the best of it. Meanwhile, I'm diving back into my studio. Ive spent the last few days back in Unknown Studios preparing it for my next projects. This month I'm producing and releasing a cd with the band "Searchlight" from Las Vegas. We're all real excited, we wanna do a EP together and release it DIY style through Unknown Studios. It'll be the first release through Unknown Studios acting as a sort of "indie record label" and we're looking forward to it. As of now I have no intention of Unknown Studios being a label, this is just an exception that we all want to do together. I'll keep you posted with info on it.

**UTAH SHOW JAN 16TH** Speaking of.... SEARCHLIGHT will be playing in Provo, UT at OZZ Friday Jan 16th!! This will be their first show in Utah as we finish tracking for their forthcoming cd. Please come out and show your support. The show starts at 6:30PM, and costs $5. Ozz is located at 490 North Freedom Blvd, Provo. Also playing will be a lot of good friends of mine and great Utah bands: Collin Creek (rad band from right here in Utah County, my boy Tyler Lougee is the singer. A lot of fun live!), Breaux (Salt Lake City band I'm looking forward to seeing for the first time) and Resistor Radio (a great punk band from Logan, UT. Former bassist of my old band Apocalypse Radio- Jake Moore is in this band. I have their demo and can't stop listening to it. I love it! Can't wait to see em live). So come out to the show.....and stay for all the bands. Should be a good show!!

If you've been on the Unknown Studios myspace you may have noticed a lot of new photos I just posted. I'm a fan of the arts....all mediums. Music, Photography and Painting to name a few. In my free time I like to dabble in a lot of these. In my travels I always arm myself with my Canon camera... I love walking around and shooting photos of anything at all that my eye finds interesting. I've posted a new folder of photos that Ive taken called "My Amateur Photography". I emphasize "amateur" cause I don't know the first thing about photography. I have a lot of friends who are professionals but I don't really know shit. I just really enjoy the art of it and toying with settings when I see something I like. Ya gotta start somewhere. Since this "Unknown Studios Myspace" is pretty much based on sharing each others "art" in one form or another, I thought I'd share some of mine. These are pretty much all unedited photos, most of em are just imported, threw my name on em and posted em. A few I had toyed with for a min. But most are pretty raw straight from my camera. Have a look... for all you "photographers" out there....I'm really not too interested in hearing people nit pick what Ive done, the same way I dont like when people try to correct me on typos and grammer.... I dont really give a shit. Im just hear to share. So enjoy....


Along those same lines... Ive also added a folder called "My Paintings". I took a lot of art classes in highschool, I mostly liked to sketch though and never got into paintings. I had an idea of a gift I wanted to make for my friend and band mate Tim Armstrong. I had taken a photo of his Gretsch guitar (the same photo you'll see on the back cover of Rancids "UK Tour Photobook"). So I wanted to do a painting of the photo I took as a gift for Tim. I bought some acrylic paints, brushes and canvas with the help of my dear friend and art teacher from highschool Mr Dan Barney. What you see is the finished product. I've found a new medium of art I really enjoy and have continued to do acrylic paintings. So Ive posted a few Ive done to share with you. I apologize that the photos look ghetto....they're from my cellphone. haha. But you get the idea! Anyway, hope you like and if you dont....stop looking at em! haha

Well, I'll do better with keeping more frequent updates. Lets call it my new years resolution. haha. I hope you are all well. More to come soon!
Much love and respect
-B

[dissident]

ok, that really can't be good.

[Mesthead!]

I love Rancid.
And out come the wolves is amazing.
They need to come out with a new album.

[TangledUp]

Come out of the shadows, Rancid. :-(

[oddwithoutend]

I like Rancid.

[TangledUp]

And Out Come The Wolves is an album everyone should own, period.

[prefix-core]

...Raise your hand if you're stoked for the new record.

[Justin_stacy]

excited, but also a little reserved.

[prefix-core]

excited, but also a little reserved.

Hey, y'know. At least it's not another Transplants and/or Lars Frederiksen & the Bastards record. :-p

[theguy77]

...Raise your hand if you're stoked for the new record.

*scratches his balls*

[Justin_stacy]

Hey, y'know. At least it's not another Transplants and/or Lars Frederiksen & the Bastards record. :-p

As long as its not another S/T (2nd version) I'll be fine. My point was I'm not going to get my hopes up until I hear the thing, being a life long Rancid fan you never know what they're going to throw at you.

And don't lump The Bastards in with the transplants......The Bastards at least had one or two good songs.

[HaveNots]

if you like rancid, check out Have Nots. Boston based punk/ska.

www.myspace.com/havenotsboston

[MickShamrock]

Let's Go is my favourite Rancid album. Hopefully the new one will be good.

[prefix-core]

As long as its not another S/T (2nd version) I'll be fine. My point was I'm not going to get my hopes up until I hear the thing, being a life long Rancid fan you never know what they're going to throw at you.

And don't lump The Bastards in with the transplants......The Bastards at least had one or two good songs.

I actually kinda dug some of Rancid 2000 (roughly 25% of the disc, if I had to guess). But you're right - lord only knows what this will wind up sounding like.

As for the Bastards? I absolutely loved the first record, but the second one had little if nothing of value to it (sans the cover songs). And the Transplants...Yeah, a few good songs.

Do you have a favorite Rancid record? I only ask because I'm pretty sure they'll never write another album quite like Life Won't Wait (my personal favorite) which makes me sad. Haha.

[Justin_stacy]

Do you have a favorite Rancid record? I only ask because I'm pretty sure they'll never write another album quite like Life Won't Wait (my personal favorite) which makes me sad. Haha.

I don't take that question lightly, after No Use For A Name, Rancid is probably my favorite band. But if I had to pick, I'd probably go with ....and out came the wolves, followed closely by Let's Go. Life Won't Wait is good, but I don't think its aged as well as some of their other records, particularly the ska and reggae elements. Leicester Square, Hoover Street and Bloodclot are some of their best works, but songs like the title track don't sit well with me now. I still admire the fact that they tried something different, and I really wish they hadn't regressed with the follow up, I just think Life Won't Wait was more a product of its time, and not one of their more memoriable records.

[prefix-core]

I don't take that question lightly, after No Use For A Name, Rancid is probably my favorite band. But if I had to pick, I'd probably go with ....and out came the wolves, followed closely by Let's Go. Life Won't Wait is good, but I don't think its aged as well as some of their other records, particularly the ska and reggae elements. Leicester Square, Hoover Street and Bloodclot are some of their best works, but songs like the title track don't sit well with me now. I still admire the fact that they tried something different, and I really wish they hadn't regressed with the follow up, I just think Life Won't Wait was more a product of its time, and not one of their more memoriable records.

Life Won't Wait and ...And Out Come the Wolves are my two favorites. Followed closely by Let's Go and Indestructible. The two self-titled albums are tied for last place.

I think what gets me about Life Won't Wait is the amount of ground it covers - each track differs. That and the songs are all very memorable both on their own and within the context of the album. It's one of my favorite summer albums of all-time.

[dissident]

you guys are fucking nuts, s/t 2000 was awesome.

[dissident]

...and out come the wolves (obv)
let's go
s/t 2000
life won't wait
s/t
indestructible

in that order

[Justin_stacy]

Life Won't Wait and ...And Out Come the Wolves are my two favorites. Followed closely by Let's Go and Indestructible. The two self-titled albums are tied for last place.

I think what gets me about Life Won't Wait is the amount of ground it covers - each track differs. That and the songs are all very memorable both on their own and within the context of the album. It's one of my favorite summer albums of all-time.

....and out come the wolves is a classic album, was one of the first albums I sat aside to give to my 'kid' (now daughter) one day.

I won't argue with your reasoning on Life Won't Wait, but part of what you like about is the same thing that hurts it in my opinion.

[Paulb-182]

...And out come the wolves and self titled 2000 are two of my favourite punk albums

[prefix-core]

....and out come the wolves is a classic album, was one of the first albums I sat aside to give to my 'kid' (now daughter) one day.

I won't argue with your reasoning on Life Won't Wait, but part of what you like about is the same thing that hurts it in my opinion.

Definitely a classic record. I can remember the first time I heard Time Bomb on the radio. :-) How's the daughter likin' it?

[Justin_stacy]

Definitely a classic record. I can remember the first time I heard Time Bomb on the radio. :-) How's the daughter likin' it?

I remember seeing them live back in '96 right around the time that record was released and the place was just insane, you could tell they were something special.

Daughter doesn't like anything but metro station right now :wallbash:, but she's only one and half so you can't blame her too much. She won't listen to music like this for a few more years which is why I've sat shit like this aside. In our office I've got a box of unopened CD's to give her someday when she's older, to introduce her to the music I grew up on, music that has/had an impact on my life. My dad attempted the samething for me, but with records, but they were all lost in a flood when I 5 or 6. Right now I think theres probably 10 plus CDs up there.....its been awhile since I've added anything.

[prefix-core]

I remember seeing them live back in '96 right around the time that record was released and the place was just insane, you could tell they were something special.

Daughter doesn't like anything but metro station right now :wallbash:, but she's only one and half so you can't blame her too much. She won't listen to music like this for a few more years which is why I've sat shit like this aside. In our office I've got a box of unopened CD's to give her someday when she's older, to introduce her to the music I grew up on, music that has/had an impact on my life. My dad attempted the samething for me, but with records, but they were all lost in a flood when I 5 or 6. Right now I think theres probably 10 plus CDs up there.....its been awhile since I've added anything.

1996, huh? Consider me jealous. I didn't get to see them live until Warped Tour in 2001. But I discovered them right around 1996. Oddly enough, it was a Saturday morning in the car with my father. I had a paper route and we'd listen to an all-Beatles show they had every morning and my dad would share stories and the like about the Beatles...After the papers were delivered he went into a Dunkin' Donuts to get us some breakfast, I flipped the dial and bam...

There they were. For about a minute. Then my dad got back in the car and promptly changed it back to the Beatles. Ironically, years later, I re-introduced my father to Rancid. We were actually listening to their cover of Harder They Come on a mix C.D. of his the other day.


What other CDs are up in that stack of yours? That's such a cool concept!

[Justin_stacy]

1996, huh? Consider me jealous. I didn't get to see them live until Warped Tour in 2001. But I discovered them right around 1996. Oddly enough, it was a Saturday morning in the car with my father. I had a paper route and we'd listen to an all-Beatles show they had every morning and my dad would share stories and the like about the Beatles...After the papers were delivered he went into a Dunkin' Donuts to get us some breakfast, I flipped the dial and bam...

There they were. For about a minute. Then my dad got back in the car and promptly changed it back to the Beatles. Ironically, years later, I re-introduced my father to Rancid. We were actually listening to their cover of Harder They Come on a mix C.D. of his the other day.


What other CDs are up in that stack of yours? That's such a cool concept!

Not really sure how I was introduced to them? I think I heard Side Kicks on a Warp Tour comp...but who knows.

As for a matching youthfull memory. My first real, as in non-christian, punk concert was Propagandhi in '95 or '96. What makes this interesting is that this very concert (the whole damn thing) just happens to be posted on youtube...how's that for ironic? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbzvs1s4lnU)

I went up stairs to find the box and couldn't, we moved about 4 years ago and I haven't touched it since then. But off the top of my head the list is:

BoySetsFire - After the Eulugy
Catch 22 - Keasby Nights
Counting Crows - Recovering the Satellites
Dropkick Murphys - Do Or Die.
Fenix Tx - Lechuza (our default boys name was 'Fenix', ya I'm that kind of dork)
Face to Face - "Live"
The Gadjits - At Ease
Get Up Kids - Four Minute Mile
Good Riddance - Comprehensive Guide To Modern Rebillion
Jefferies Fan Club - Nothing To Prove
Lagwagon - Double Plaidinum
Link 80 - 17 Reasons (2nd favorite album ever)
Less Than Jake - Losing Streak
Mighty Mighty Bosstones - Lets Face It
MxPx - On Cover or Life In General (i don't remember which)
No Use For A Name - Hard Rock Bottom
The Offspring - Ixnay On The Hombre.
Operation Ivy - Energy.
Rancid - .....and Out Come The Wolves.
Reel Big Fish - Turn Of The Radio
Saves the Day - Stay What You Are
Taking Back Sunday - Tell All Your Friends
Tom Petty - Greatest Hits
Thursday - Full Collapse
Wilco - Being There (my favorite album ever)

....I know I'm missing one or two, Pearl Jams' 10 and Buck O' Nine's 28 Teeth are probably in there, along with a handfull of tour comps, but that the basic list. Nothing new, although I've been thinking about adding GLA's 59 sound, but I have a hard time paying for music nowadays. Thoughts? You probably won't like much, most people who have seen the box haven't been entirely impressed, but we all take different things away from music and I'm partial to the mid 90's, circa '96.

[TreyForest]

every rancid record is sick but wolves probably gets most spins
i'm really amped for the new record this summer, new drummer from the used hopefully brings some new dynamic to the band
n y r people hating on the transplants, i think there sound is fuckin good
what did people thing of tim's solo record???

[prefix-core]

As for a matching youthfull memory. My first real, as in non-christian, punk concert was Propagandhi in '95 or '96. What makes this interesting is that this very concert (the whole damn thing) just happens to be posted on youtube...how's that for ironic? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbzvs1s4lnU)

I went up stairs to find the box and couldn't, we moved about 4 years ago and I haven't touched it since then. But off the top of my head the list is:

BoySetsFire - After the Eulugy
Catch 22 - Keasby Nights
Counting Crows - Recovering the Satellites
Dropkick Murphys - Do Or Die.
Fenix Tx - Lechuza (our default boys name was 'Fenix', ya I'm that kind of dork)
Face to Face - "Live"
The Gadjits - At Ease
Get Up Kids - Four Minute Mile
Good Riddance - Comprehensive Guide To Modern Rebillion
Jefferies Fan Club - Nothing To Prove
Lagwagon - Double Plaidinum
Link 80 - 17 Reasons (2nd favorite album ever)
Less Than Jake - Losing Streak
Mighty Mighty Bosstones - Lets Face It
MxPx - On Cover or Life In General (i don't remember which)
No Use For A Name - Hard Rock Bottom
The Offspring - Ixnay On The Hombre.
Operation Ivy - Energy.
Rancid - .....and Out Come The Wolves.
Reel Big Fish - Turn Of The Radio
Saves the Day - Stay What You Are
Taking Back Sunday - Tell All Your Friends
Tom Petty - Greatest Hits
Thursday - Full Collapse
Wilco - Being There (my favorite album ever)

....I know I'm missing one or two, Pearl Jams' 10 and Buck O' Nine's 28 Teeth are probably in there, along with a handfull of tour comps, but that the basic list. Nothing new, although I've been thinking about adding GLA's 59 sound, but I have a hard time paying for music nowadays. Thoughts? You probably won't like much, most people who have seen the box haven't been entirely impressed, but we all take different things away from music and I'm partial to the mid 90's, circa '96.

I wish my first show was available to me via YouTube (Hot Water Music, Small Brown Bike, Saves the Day) simply because, at the time I wasn't familiar with any of the bands. But I was sufficiently blown away.

As for the box? I'm a big fan of most of what's in there. Artist-wise, anyway - I listen to most of those. I'm a big fan of the early- to mid-nineties punk rock scene, myself, so I support it fully! Particularly the Rancid, Lagwagon, Less Than Jake, Face to Face, and Offspring picks.

"All I Want" was my jam back in the day. Haha. Strangely enough, it still holds up for me today.

I'm not sure what I'd put in a box like that for myself. But now I'm thinking about it.

[Justin_stacy]

"All I Want" was my jam back in the day. Haha. Strangely enough, it still holds up for me today.

I'm not sure what I'd put in a box like that for myself. But now I'm thinking about it.

Ya everybody says Smash is their best album, but I don't think it holds a candle to Ixnay. I still listen to it on a regular basis. There's probably only a handfull of better punk records.

The box, for lack of a better name, is kind of neat idea, although I don't really know what if any value it will have when I give it away. Who know how the receiver will feel about receiving a box of what is essentially 'ancient' music....?

[prefix-core]

Ya everybody says Smash is their best album, but I don't think it holds a candle to Ixnay. I still listen to it on a regular basis. There's probably only a handfull of better punk records.

The box, for lack of a better name, is kind of neat idea, although I don't really know what if any value it will have when I give it away. Who know how the receiver will feel about receiving a box of what is essentially 'ancient' music....?

The difference between the two is variety. Smash was consistently fast with a few slower, "grunge"-type songs. Ixnay had all sorts of stuff going on - but it never once lets up the energy. There's a few slower tracks, but those are driving, powerful songs, y'know?

If nothing else, that box will be an effort to share music you love/loved with someone you care about. That's always worth something.

[bribot]

Link 80 - 17 Reasons (2nd favorite album ever)



seriously :-)

[Justin_stacy]

The difference between the two is variety. Smash was consistently fast with a few slower, "grunge"-type songs. Ixnay had all sorts of stuff going on - but it never once lets up the energy. There's a few slower tracks, but those are driving, powerful songs, y'know?

If nothing else, that box will be an effort to share music you love/loved with someone you care about. That's always worth something.

I think that summed up perfectly why I don't think it had the lasting power of Ixnay. I'm not going to bad mouth 'grunge' but its certainly not one of the more memeorable music fads. At least in my opinion.

[Justin_stacy]

seriously :-)

Damn straight. Nick Traina was the shit, I'm so glad I got see him once before he passed.

[prefix-core]

I think that summed up perfectly why I don't think it had the lasting power of Ixnay. I'm not going to bad mouth 'grunge' but its certainly not one of the more memeorable music fads. At least in my opinion.

Frankly, out of all of those bands, only two of them ever had any sort of staying power with me. Nirvana and Stone Temple Pilots. And I'm more into the STP's pop songs than I am of their "hard rock" songs.

But unfortunately for the Offspring...They continued with the diversity of Ixnay but fell into a pattern of "fast punk rock songs" and "gimmicky slow jams."

That being said? "Spare Me the Details" from Splinter is a pretty awesome/fun pop song.

[Justin_stacy]

Frankly, out of all of those bands, only two of them ever had any sort of staying power with me. Nirvana and Stone Temple Pilots. And I'm more into the STP's pop songs than I am of their "hard rock" songs.

But unfortunately for the Offspring...They continued with the diversity of Ixnay but fell into a pattern of "fast punk rock songs" and "gimmicky slow jams."

That being said? "Spare Me the Details" from Splinter is a pretty awesome/fun pop song.

I've always felt Nirvana's continued 'notoriety' has more to do with their abrupt end rather then the actual lasting power of their music. Chances are they'd have drifted off into obscurity just like Pearl Jam had Kurt not ended it all.

I guess we've effectively gone off topic now....

[Justin_stacy]

East Bay Night
This Place
Up To No Good
Last One To Die
Disconnected
I Ain't Worried
Damnation
New Orleans
Civilian Ways
The Bravest Kids
Skull City
L.A. River
Lulu
Dominoes Fall
Liberty and Freedom
You Want It, You Got It
Locomotive
That's Just The Way It Is Now
The Highway

Track listing for the new album.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Have they announced a title/release date yet?

And of course it has way too many songs. Typical Rancid album. Out Come the Wolves would be one of my all time favorite records if it was a little shorter.

[Justin_stacy]

Have they announced a title/release date yet?

And of course it has way too many songs. Typical Rancid album. Out Come the Wolves would be one of my all time favorite records if it was a little shorter.

Let The Dominoes Fall and June 2 2009. And I agree they always have way to many tracks.

[bribot]

Damn straight. Nick Traina was the shit, I'm so glad I got see him once before he passed.

you lucky sob lol. i actually didnt mind the 2nd lead singer, could've been much worse...ive been meaning to get danielle steeles "his bright light", i hear its a good read.

[Dervish]

Rancid is one of the few punk/ska bands I can stand listening to, they're one of my favorite bands of their genre though.

[Justin_stacy]

you lucky sob lol. i actually didnt mind the 2nd lead singer, could've been much worse...ive been meaning to get danielle steeles "his bright light", i hear its a good read.

Bought a copy many years back, its a good read, but you gotta remember its coming from the standpoint of a grieving mother and I've heard there is some contention surrounding some of the things she says related to the band.

The stuff about Nick and his disease is very emotional.

[ugman_2000]

Ya everybody says Smash is their best album, but I don't think it holds a candle to Ixnay. I still listen to it on a regular basis. There's probably only a handfull of better punk records.

The box, for lack of a better name, is kind of neat idea, although I don't really know what if any value it will have when I give it away. Who know how the receiver will feel about receiving a box of what is essentially 'ancient' music....?

100% agree with this Ixnay has always been my fav Offspring album & most likley always will reminds me of being back in school again

[prefix-core]

Did anyone hear the new single today on KROQ?

[Justin_stacy]

http://www.myspace.com/rancid first single's been released (top of the page).

[dissident]

meh, i don't like the chorus.

[SwiftSilentDead]

Yay! :-)

[versus_god]

It's ok.

[Justin_stacy]

sound kind of interesting.

RANCID's Let The Dominoes Fall To Include Expanded Deluxe Edition With Second Acoustic Disc
Posted by Jordan A. Baker / April 15, 2009
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Hellcat/Epitaph will release a special expanded edition of Let The Dominoes Fall on June 2, featuring a bonus CD with acoustic versions of twelve songs from the album, and a DVD of Let The Dominoes Fall - The Making of the Seventh Record, three foldout posters and four custom guitar picks.

[prefix-core]

sound kind of interesting.

Sounds like Rancid is re-issuing the re-issue before it really has a chance to get re-issued. ;-)

[Justin_stacy]

Sounds like Rancid is re-issuing the re-issue before it really has a chance to get re-issued. ;-)

kind of funny how things change. it used to be band did this to try and sucker people into buying their albums twice. now they're just trying to sucker them into buying it once.

[prefix-core]

kind of funny how things change. it used to be band did this to try and sucker people into buying their albums twice. now they're just trying to sucker them into buying it once.

Good point. But I almost always feel like sucking it up and paying the extra couple bucks is worth it with all of the bonus junk you get. Particularly with the "punk" bands; probably because they know that the fans are going to expect more than a shitty, 30-minute "documentary" and a Kanye West remix.

I'm kind of excited to hear the acoustic cuts, though. I think it'll be interesting to hear how a few of the inevitable "barn burners" sound in their original state. Course the downside is...What if the record doesn't resonate with me? Then I'm stuck with a disc full of acoustic cuts I won't care about. Ah well.

The odds of that happening are slim with this band. I'm willing to gamble on the boys. :-) It's the $100 purchase of the "21st Century Breakdown" that I'm now nervous about. Talk about an impulse purchase. Ouch...

[Justin_stacy]

Good point. But I almost always feel like sucking it up and paying the extra couple bucks is worth it with all of the bonus junk you get. Particularly with the "punk" bands; probably because they know that the fans are going to expect more than a shitty, 30-minute "documentary" and a Kanye West remix

I'm kind of excited to hear the acoustic cuts, though. I think it'll be interesting to hear how a few of the inevitable "barn burners" sound in their original state. Course the downside is...What if the record doesn't resonate with me? Then I'm stuck with a disc full of acoustic cuts I won't care about. Ah well.....

Funny back when I did buy cd's I avoided the 'rereleases' like the plague, I think I own one or two. But it wasn't out of not wanting them, as much as I felt it was a rip off/insult to the real fans who purchased the discs before the band exploded.

As for Rancid I think I might actually be more excited for the acoustic stuff then the new album. I think the album with be exactly like the last one, which is cool, but not something to get overly excited about. On the other hand a full band acoustic cd length set is pretty fucking neat.

The odds of that happening are slim with this band. I'm willing to gamble on the boys. :-) It's the $100 purchase of the "21st Century Breakdown" that I'm now nervous about. Talk about an impulse purchase. Ouch...

No offense but if that's a real item and not jsut you joking around......I have lost so much respect for that band.

[prefix-core]

Funny back when I did buy cd's I avoided the 'rereleases' like the plague, I think I own one or two. But it wasn't out of not wanting them, as much as I felt it was a rip off/insult to the real fans who purchased the discs before the band exploded.

As for Rancid I think I might actually be more excited for the acoustic stuff then the new album. I think the album with be exactly like the last one, which is cool, but not something to get overly excited about. On the other hand a full band acoustic cd length set is pretty fucking neat.

Re-releases have been bastardized by a few labels (Victory, anyone?) and are often times just a way for a label to capitalize on a band's new-found success (Fat Wreck = Rise Against's The Unraveling) but they can be done appropriately. This would have been such a package. A full disc worth of acoustic material, bonus DVD...I like it! I'm just glad the option is being given already instead of six months down the road.

I wish bands would just release EP's and such with the extra material, but that would kind of defeat the purpose of re-releasing it so close to the release date, I s'pose...


No offense but if that's a real item and not jsut you joking around......I have lost so much respect for that band.

No offense taken. And it's most certainly a real item, haha. And I am more than willing to admit that I'm a total asshat for giving in and making the purchase. But they're my favorite band, have been for years, and I've always over-paid for special packaging (the Japanes Import Singles Boxed Set I got back in the day was right around $100, live import EP's, all that jazz).

I think I neglected to mention, however, that it's a limited edition triple LP release. Haha. I'm not sure if that makes it any less over-priced, but...To their credit? They've done a good job at keeping ticket prices low, Billie still contributes to the scene, so on and so forth.

Feel free to disagree with any of this. And I say that with no amount of malice or defensiveness. Haha. I'm always down for a good debate. :-)

[Chris Fallon]

I like the new song. Just heard it today, and it reminds me of an older sound. Dig it.

[dissident]

Re-releases have been bastardized by a few labels (Victory, anyone?) and are often times just a way for a label to capitalize on a band's new-found success (Fat Wreck = Rise Against's The Unraveling) but they can be done appropriately. This would have been such a package. A full disc worth of acoustic material, bonus DVD...I like it! I'm just glad the option is being given already instead of six months down the road.

I wish bands would just release EP's and such with the extra material, but that would kind of defeat the purpose of re-releasing it so close to the release date, I s'pose...




No offense taken. And it's most certainly a real item, haha. And I am more than willing to admit that I'm a total asshat for giving in and making the purchase. But they're my favorite band, have been for years, and I've always over-paid for special packaging (the Japanes Import Singles Boxed Set I got back in the day was right around $100, live import EP's, all that jazz).

I think I neglected to mention, however, that it's a limited edition triple LP release. Haha. I'm not sure if that makes it any less over-priced, but...To their credit? They've done a good job at keeping ticket prices low, Billie still contributes to the scene, so on and so forth.

Feel free to disagree with any of this. And I say that with no amount of malice or defensiveness. Haha. I'm always down for a good debate. :-)

what's included in that green day package?

[stupidtyonparad]

that green day package is outrageous, how the fuck can they get off charign that much, its basically the album on vinyl and cd, with extended linear notes for 80 bucks

and out of curiosity what happened to the rancid thread i made a while back? i feel kind of betrayed.....

new song kinda blows, the 'we're not over the hill' thing is really cheesy, im hoping the rest of the album is better, i think they peaked at life wont wait though

[dissident]

boo, i loved s/t 2000

[prefix-core]

that green day package is outrageous, how the fuck can they get off charign that much, its basically the album on vinyl and cd, with extended linear notes for 80 bucks

and out of curiosity what happened to the rancid thread i made a while back? i feel kind of betrayed.....

new song kinda blows, the 'we're not over the hill' thing is really cheesy, im hoping the rest of the album is better, i think they peaked at life wont wait though

I don't know, man. That big Thrice vinyl set is $52. Considering that Green Day is a bigger band and the like, on a major label...The disparity in price seems to make sense. I'm not saying it's not expensive, just saying that it's pretty much par for the course.

As for the new Rancid single, it's pretty okay. It sounds like...Rancid. Haha. I think it makes sense that, at their age, they'd start writing songs about getting older. I don't see anything wrong with it.

[Justin_stacy]

Feel free to disagree with any of this. And I say that with no amount of malice or defensiveness. Haha. I'm always down for a good debate. :-)

I don't know what kind of debate we could have, a hundred dollar is a hundred dollars no matter how you dress it up. That said I collect toys, or at least did before I got married, and I've spent more then a hundred dollars before on a single Puppet Masters figure, so I'm not really one to talk...but fuck man, A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR SOMETHING YOU COULD'VE DOWNLOADED FOR FREE..FUCK FUCK EKLFSJDKSLEJFUCK....ARE YOU INSANE!@$@#$@#W@! :-p

[prefix-core]

I don't know what kind of debate we could have, a hundred dollar is a hundred dollars no matter how you dress it up. That said I collect toys, or at least did before I got married, and I've spent more then a hundred dollars before on a single Puppet Masters figure, so I'm not really one to talk...but fuck man, A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR SOMETHING YOU COULD'VE DOWNLOADED FOR FREE..FUCK FUCK EKLFSJDKSLEJFUCK....ARE YOU INSANE!@$@#$@#W@! :-p

Haha. I was more referring to the "respect" portion of the "argument," but straight-up? Thanks for making me "LOL" with that (I'm assuming that last sentence was intentionally humorous--if not, I'm just an asshole). I just got off of a 13-hour work day and something like that was completely necessary. HIGH-FIVE!

Also? Toys are awesome.

[stupidtyonparad]

boo, i loved s/t 2000

no way man, that album was too heavy for me, it was a huge departure from the music that got me into them, minus a few songs i cant stand it (radio havanah is so bad ass though)

I don't know, man. That big Thrice vinyl set is $52. Considering that Green Day is a bigger band and the like, on a major label...The disparity in price seems to make sense. I'm not saying it's not expensive, just saying that it's pretty much par for the course.

As for the new Rancid single, it's pretty okay. It sounds like...Rancid. Haha. I think it makes sense that, at their age, they'd start writing songs about getting older. I don't see anything wrong with it.

if you wanna go there, the thrice box set is 4 10"s and they're colored. green day is charging that much cause they know people will pay for it. case in point...you. i mean, if you're happy with it thats fine, but i think its kinda sticking it to the fans a little (and i love green day)

another thing, the american idiot vinyl le was 25 bucks which is way more than a normal record, they still have one at the store by me, and every time i see it i think about getting it but its just way too much when a normal double lp is 14-18

[Justin_stacy]

;-)



Also? Toys are awesome.

O'ya Nerd Punk all the way.

[chella182]

Loove Rancid :)

Hope they headline Lock-Up stage at Leeds Festival. Apparently they've been hinted at.

[stupidtyonparad]

it really pisses me off that rise against is headlining over them this summer, that seems like such a disrespectful thing

[prefix-core]

it really pisses me off that rise against is headlining over them this summer, that seems like such a disrespectful thing

...Rancid chose to go on the tour. It was their decision. And I'm pretty sure it's co-headlining.

That being said, both bands are about the same size, popularity-wise. So it makes sense. But let's assume Rise Against was the bigger band and opted to open for Rancid out of respect. #1? That would be a bit patronizing, don't you think? #2? Rise Against fans would gobble up the tickets and leave after Rise Against played. Granted, Rancid's big enough that you might not notice...

But hopefully you see what I'm getting at.

[SwiftSilentDead]

it really pisses me off that rise against is headlining over them this summer, that seems like such a disrespectful thing

Well, Rise Against are huge now and they're coming off an album that sold really well and Rancid haven't released an album in 6 years so I can see why RA is headlining.

[stupidtyonparad]

well...rancid has an album coming out this summer, plus they're legends and rise against are sell outs who just attract bro-dudes and frat boys to their shows

[Justin_stacy]

Bad Religion opened for the lesser, but more popular, Blink back in '00 following the release of New America. Popularity drives who headlines a tour and who doesn't, not quality or history.

[prefix-core]

well...rancid has an album coming out this summer, plus they're legends and rise against are sell outs who just attract bro-dudes and frat boys to their shows

Bigger fan-base = bigger venues = Band who should be headlining

It has nothing to do with "respect" or who is a "legend." And everything to do with common sense, market demand, etc. But more importantly...

Rancid ARE legends. I also heard them in an interview last week refer to Rise Against as a really great band that they were EXCITED to be touring with. Now, here's my question...

If Rise Against are "sell outs," and Rancid thinks they're a great band, yadda-yadda. Would it not be a "sell out" move for Rancid to be touring with them? And an even BIGGER "sell out" move to lie in interviews and say they're excited to be on the tour when they really aren't?

And if it's the truth and Rancid IS really excited to be on the tour, what's the sense in arguing about it?

PS: Have you ever been to a Rancid show? There are PLENTY of bro-heads and frat boys there. Here in Massachusetts, at least. Plenty.

[prefix-core]

Bad Religion opened for the lesser, but more popular, Blink back in '00 following the release of New America. Popularity drives who headlines a tour and who doesn't, not quality or history.

Ladies and gentleman, Exhibit A. (Insert applause here)

[Justin_stacy]

:bowdown:

besides the boys are pushing retirement age and lars needs to make some extra money while he can. Social Security doesn't cover prostitutes.

[prefix-core]

:bowdown:

besides the boys are pushing retirement age and lars needs to make some extra money while he can. Social Security doesn't cover prostitutes.

Remember the time Lars wrote a song about all the hookers he'd banged? That was the most unnecessary song I have ever heard. Haha.

That aside, it's a weird thought to think of Rancid "breaking up." I doubt that will ever actually happen, but there will come a time where they tour once every few years I'm sure and uh, yeah, that is an extremely strange thought.

[pennie]

And out come the wolves is so good.I remember trying for ages to learn the bass for maxwell murder when I was a kid.haha good memories of this band.

[Justin_stacy]

Remember the time Lars wrote a song about all the hookers he'd banged? That was the most unnecessary song I have ever heard. Haha..

I didn't know the underlining meaning of the title Viking until I read it in an interview.

That aside, it's a weird thought to think of Rancid "breaking up." I doubt that will ever actually happen, but there will come a time where they tour once every few years I'm sure and uh, yeah, that is an extremely strange thought.

I have no problem with a band staying in it for as long as they want. But the music has to stay age apprioprate. 40 year old men don't need to be singing about being in highschool (talkin' about you here John Feldman) or playing songs like "I Want I Want" by H20.

[prefix-core]

I have no problem with a band staying in it for as long as they want. But the music has to stay age apprioprate. 40 year old men don't need to be singing about being in highschool (talkin' about you here John Feldman) or playing songs like "I Want I Want" by H20.

Agreed. Haha. Thus far, Rancid have been able to pull that off. Goldfinger, on the other-hand. Um. Yeah. Let's not talk about it, eh? Seeing them live last summer made my heart hurt.

[stupidtyonparad]

Bigger fan-base = bigger venues = Band who should be headlining

It has nothing to do with "respect" or who is a "legend." And everything to do with common sense, market demand, etc. But more importantly...

Rancid ARE legends. I also heard them in an interview last week refer to Rise Against as a really great band that they were EXCITED to be touring with. Now, here's my question...

If Rise Against are "sell outs," and Rancid thinks they're a great band, yadda-yadda. Would it not be a "sell out" move for Rancid to be touring with them? And an even BIGGER "sell out" move to lie in interviews and say they're excited to be on the tour when they really aren't?

And if it's the truth and Rancid IS really excited to be on the tour, what's the sense in arguing about it?

PS: Have you ever been to a Rancid show? There are PLENTY of bro-heads and frat boys there. Here in Massachusetts, at least. Plenty.

rancid are much more relaxed nowadays than they used to be as far as diy stuff is concerned, that comes with getting old and i dont hold it against them.

and ive seen rancid twice and both times the crowd was pretty punk oriented. and the show they're playing in buffalo is BARELY bigger than the show rancid sold out last time they came through.

now why are rise against sell outs in my eyes? they were about as hardcore as you could get with their music and their beliefs and they completely compromised them and completely changed their fan base. now has their music really changed? i dont htink so, but i dont know their music enough to say yes or no, i think they suck to be honest.

i just wish everything wasnt so 'lets make money' oriented and more respect oriented

[AP_Punk]

damn those greedy political punk bands!

[prefix-core]

rancid are much more relaxed nowadays than they used to be as far as diy stuff is concerned, that comes with getting old and i dont hold it against them.

and ive seen rancid twice and both times the crowd was pretty punk oriented. and the show they're playing in buffalo is BARELY bigger than the show rancid sold out last time they came through.

now why are rise against sell outs in my eyes? they were about as hardcore as you could get with their music and their beliefs and they completely compromised them and completely changed their fan base. now has their music really changed? i dont htink so, but i dont know their music enough to say yes or no, i think they suck to be honest.

i just wish everything wasnt so 'lets make money' oriented and more respect oriented

Maybe it's just the location, but here in Boston there's all sorts of kids at a Rancid show. Far from being "punk-oriented." But y'know, that's what happens when bands are all over the radio. Rancid is such a band, and has been for well over a decade now.

But you're right. The venues they're playing aren't much bigger than the ones Rancid has sold-out in the past. This just kind of adds to the argument that Rancid WANTS to be on the tour. They don't need to tour with Rise Against to sell concert tickets, y'know?

Rise Against's music has changed from record to record. But y'know, that happens. Whether older fans like the new direction, that varies from person to person. I'm not such a fan of some of the newer stuff, but one thing I do know is that as far as I can tell...I haven't noticed anything about them that's changed as far as their "beliefs" are concerned. Their lyrics are the same, they still support/promote the same causes they always have, their videos are always political in nature...I guess I'm just not sure where any of that came from. What have you seen that makes you think they've "sold out" their beliefs? I'm curious to see where it's coming from...Maybe they're hypocrites and I've just completely missed it...

[stupidtyonparad]

Maybe it's just the location, but here in Boston there's all sorts of kids at a Rancid show. Far from being "punk-oriented." But y'know, that's what happens when bands are all over the radio. Rancid is such a band, and has been for well over a decade now.

But you're right. The venues they're playing aren't much bigger than the ones Rancid has sold-out in the past. This just kind of adds to the argument that Rancid WANTS to be on the tour. They don't need to tour with Rise Against to sell concert tickets, y'know?

Rise Against's music has changed from record to record. But y'know, that happens. Whether older fans like the new direction, that varies from person to person. I'm not such a fan of some of the newer stuff, but one thing I do know is that as far as I can tell...I haven't noticed anything about them that's changed as far as their "beliefs" are concerned. Their lyrics are the same, they still support/promote the same causes they always have, their videos are always political in nature...I guess I'm just not sure where any of that came from. What have you seen that makes you think they've "sold out" their beliefs? I'm curious to see where it's coming from...Maybe they're hypocrites and I've just completely missed it...

oh im sure rancid wants to be on that tour, and i mean, im pretty indie, im not real punk oriented so maybe id ont belong at a rancid show in my area? haha i dont know, i used tobe punk, and ranccid is never on the radio over here.

but it really is the political bands thing, against me! did the same thing to a more...and now less extent. for being a politically driven band, whos now all over mtv and is on a label thats turned them into a hype machine...i see that is really back assed. like i said, you can tell by their fan base, not a lot of punks left at rise against show, or at least they're not the majority any more

[prefix-core]

oh im sure rancid wants to be on that tour, and i mean, im pretty indie, im not real punk oriented so maybe id ont belong at a rancid show in my area? haha i dont know, i used tobe punk, and ranccid is never on the radio over here.

but it really is the political bands thing, against me! did the same thing to a more...and now less extent. for being a politically driven band, whos now all over mtv and is on a label thats turned them into a hype machine...i see that is really back assed. like i said, you can tell by their fan base, not a lot of punks left at rise against show, or at least they're not the majority any more

...If Rancid wants to be on that tour, why would it piss you off that they were on that tour with Rise Against? Haha. I don't understand.

Against Me! still writes political songs. Quite a few, actually. It's just a different sort of politics - and that's the issue most seem to take with them (i.e., anarchy vs. NOT anarchy).

And you want to judge a band by their fanbase? That makes absolutely no sense at all. With that logic, Rage Against the Machine were sellouts who NEVER supported political causes. I don't see how the fans of a band or the fact that MTV opts to support them can make a band any less credible. It's not their fault a bunch of idiots decide to support them. Maybe if the lyrics, their actions, etc. had changed drastically from the time they were on Fat I would beg to differ with you, but really, all that I can see changing is their style (which is to be expected) and the fact that radio now supports them...

And that doesn't change the fact that there are still people who stick around, despite the people who just want to "fuck shit up" at their shows, and actually pay attention to the message behind the music.

[Chris Fallon]

Saves the Day opened for Say Anything. Lot of people weren't happy with that, so what'd Max do? He offered up the idea to switch it up nightly -- even though the label probably disagreed. Rancid headlines shows with (oftentimes) shitty support. When they have a heavy concert season conflicting with an album release, might as well head out with a popular band to sell tickets.

It's common, and even though many of us may disagree who oughta be headlining, bands are usually pretty lax with the subject. I'd think it's pretty arrogant of any band, no matter who they are, to be pissed for supporting a band that hasn't been around as long as them.

Oh, and that Green Day package thingy -- Warner Bros' idea. They know they can do that kind of thing, even if the band doesn't like the price. Not really anything they can do.

[Liter-O-Cola]

I can't wait for this album...them and NoFX releasing albums about a month apart, I feel like I'm back in high school!

[punk182mutt]

I think that the fanbase for Rancid and Rise Against are too different to make a good tour. Half of the people there will be rock kids and half will be punk kids.

[stupidtyonparad]

rock kids? you mean bro-dudes and frat boys with no real appreciation for music? if thats what you mean...then yeah...you're right

[AP_Punk]

new album vinyl pre-order here (http://www.kingsroadmerch.com/rancid/view/?id=496&cid=38)

and deluxe special edition here (hahaha yowzas!!) (http://www.kingsroadmerch.com/rancid/view/?id=497&cid=36)

[Liter-O-Cola]

Whoa! That's a lot of $$!

[AP_Punk]

it's an expensive time to be a rancid/green day vinyl collector

[Justin_stacy]

new album vinyl pre-order here (http://www.kingsroadmerch.com/rancid/view/?id=496&cid=38)

and deluxe special edition here (hahaha yowzas!!) (http://www.kingsroadmerch.com/rancid/view/?id=497&cid=36)

What a fucking joke. $149.00 for music is nuts, I loose so much respect for a band when they allow this to happen.

[AP_Punk]

vinyl$$

[prefix-core]

I <3 Green Day. And I <3 Rancid. But I <3 Green Day more. Fuck that Rancid one. That is ridiculous...

[Justin_stacy]

What the fuck would anyone do with 3- double sided posters? How many people have glass houses to make that usefull?

[AP_Punk]

and not just 3 double sided posters, but there's also a super size poster too! :-d

and four guitar picks.

[stupidtyonparad]

yo thats a lot of shit though, the green day one is basically just the vinyl. no im not buying that thing, but i mean, 2 cds, 3 records, a dvd, 4 posters, a hardbound book, thats a lot of shit


still pricey but i think thats much more justified than the green day one. hey maybe tim got the idea from green day, him and billie joe are best buds

[AP_Punk]

yo thats a lot of shit though, the green day one is basically just the vinyl. no im not buying that thing, but i mean, 2 cds, 3 records, a dvd, 4 posters, a hardbound book, thats a lot of shit


still pricey but i think thats much more justified than the green day one. hey maybe tim got the idea from green day, him and billie joe are best buds

true. there is a lot of stuff in there. but the posters don't really seem necessary. haha. and it could be more justified than the green day, which is pretty damn crazy too. same goes for that pixies vinyl boxset that costs over 400 dollars! X-)

[prefix-core]

Eh. I think they're both equally atrocious. But I can justify paying the money for the Green Day one, because well, they're my favorite band of all-time. And the whole "book" thing intrigues me.

[Justin_stacy]

Better how that new Green Day album's good.

[punk182mutt]

it's an expensive time to be a rancid/green day vinyl collector

No, you can pre-oder the vinyl of the album and acoustic album for like $21

[AP_Punk]

No, you can pre-oder the vinyl of the album and acoustic album for like $21

mmhm. that's true! but i was referring to the deluxe edition of the new album in that post. :nod:

[prefix-core]

Better how that new Green Day album's good.

Huh? Maybe it's the alcohol. But I can't seem to make any sense of that post, sir. Haha.

[Justin_stacy]

Huh? Maybe it's the alcohol. But I can't seem to make any sense of that post, sir. Haha.

didn't you buy some expensive green day box set of the new album?

[Justin_stacy]

$21 seems expensive. I'll stick to Farmer'sworld and use my money to see them live!!!!

[prefix-core]

didn't you buy some expensive green day box set of the new album?

Oh, I did. Ridiculous. I felt like I was missing something...But I do think the new Green Day album will be a more enjoyable album than the new Rancid.

[stupidtyonparad]

$21 seems expensive. I'll stick to Farmwe'sworld and use my money to see them live!!!!

how is 21 dollars expensive?

and they're touring SUPPORTING rise against, live show wont be that great this summer. i just saw rise against this past weekend, they were awful

[AP_Punk]

justin stacy's an old fogy. back in his day records cost a nickel!

Like the time I took the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter you'd say. Now where were we, oh ya. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because if the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones.

[stupidtyonparad]

ha do you live on this website? hahaha

[AP_Punk]

since 2003!

[stupidtyonparad]

ps. theres only room for one justin in the rancid thread. man i hope its me. hahaha

[AP_Punk]

:thisissparta:

[Justin_stacy]

Fuck you all I ain't that old. bunch of jerks.

....and I don't care how old or young you are $21 for a cd is nuts.

[AP_Punk]

hahaha. i was kidding. :-d

[Justin_stacy]

Oh, I did. Ridiculous. I felt like I was missing something...But I do think the new Green Day album will be a more enjoyable album than the new Rancid.

I think the new Green Day album is just going to be a retread of their last, which is their fourth best if you ask me. So long as Rancid doesn't make another s/t 2000 it will be the best record of the year for me.

[stupidtyonparad]

Fuck you all I ain't that old. bunch of jerks.

....and I don't care how old or young you are $21 for a cd is nuts.

it was 2 cds and the vinyl release....thats not bad

[Justin_stacy]

hahaha. i was kidding. :-d

You're gonna have to speak loud I can't hear ya.....'eh...

[prefix-core]

I think the new Green Day album is just going to be a retread of their last, which is their fourth best if you ask me. So long as Rancid doesn't make another s/t 2000 it will be the best record of the year for me.

I'm banking on it being fairly similar to American Idiot, but pushing it a bit more toward the "rock" category, which while not ideal, is what I'm expecting. I'm really not too sure what to expect from Rancid, though. Those guys tend to throw curveballs. But I'm thinking it'll be fairly similar to Indestructible.

[prefix-core]

since 2003!

Kirbie. AP. 2003. Does anyone else smell t-shirt?

[stupidtyonparad]

yeah, its going to be old man punk. thats my opinion

and the green day record is going to be in the bottom half of thier catalog i expect. i dunno though

[AP_Punk]

Kirbie. AP. 2003. Does anyone else smell t-shirt?

best shirt ever!

[Justin_stacy]

I'm banking on it being fairly similar to American Idiot, but pushing it a bit more toward the "rock" category, which while not ideal, is what I'm expecting. I'm really not too sure what to expect from Rancid, though. Those guys tend to throw curveballs. But I'm thinking it'll be fairly similar to Indestructible.

If Rancid could just learn to trim the fat I think they could make another truly great album. I don't care who they are, pulling off 20 songs per record is tough for any band.

As for Green Day, I really hope the album lives up to all the fans expectations, I just have a feeling there's going to be alot of disappointment.

[chella182]

how is 21 dollars expensive?

and they're touring SUPPORTING rise against, live show wont be that great this summer. i just saw rise against this past weekend, they were awful

Rise Against are fucking belta live!!

On topic, however, excited for the new Rancid release :)

[prefix-core]

best shirt ever!

It rhymes. All great t-shirts rhyme! Haha.

[optimusrob]

http://www.fan2band.com/di/epitaph/gallows/101589_2844_43_3597.jpg (http://www.fan2band.com/dl/epitaph/gallows/101589_2844_43_3597)

New Rancid is gonna rock. Everyone should pre-order it

[prefix-core]

Rise Against are fucking belta live!!

On topic, however, excited for the new Rancid release :)

What does belta mean? Haha. I saw them at Bamboozle in NJ and Rise Against was a HUGE letdown. Of course, the short set and the terrible sound may have had something to do with that. But still. It just lacked the feeling I used to get watching them live...

[Justin_stacy]

Oh' man I can't wait there's no way this thing doesn't leak soon!!!!!

[prefix-core]

Oh' man I can't wait there's no way this thing doesn't leak soon!!!!!

I give it one more week. Haha. I can't wait either. Sadly, I don't have a $100 boxed set to look forward to so I will be listening early.

[stupidtyonparad]

guys. rancid record wont leak. that aint a punx thing to do.

[Justin_stacy]

I give it one more week. Haha. I can't wait either. Sadly, I don't have a $100 boxed set to look forward to so I will be listening early.

shamefull.

[Justin_stacy]

New video. (http://www.punknews.org/article/33517)

Anyone else think Tim kind of looks like Boy George?

http://photos.upi.com/story/t/0a4479cbeeb3e26920cc7917195175c6/Boy-George-released-from-prison.jpg

[prefix-core]

New video. (http://www.punknews.org/article/33517)

Anyone else think Tim kind of looks like Boy George?

http://photos.upi.com/story/t/0a4479cbeeb3e26920cc7917195175c6/Boy-George-released-from-prison.jpg

Shameful. And that's not just a callback to your last reply. Haha. It's also true. Poor Tim...

[AP_Punk]

lol skull tattoo! never knew about that till now.

interesting video :mellow:

[stupidtyonparad]

that video is kinda......cheesy. for lack of a better word

the shots of just tim signing by himself like in the room and on the beach and stuff....really? ehhhh. im praying this record is as good as i need it to be

[Justin_stacy]

The video sucks, but the song's pretty good.

[AP_Punk]

haha. the punknews comments for it are pretty funny

http://i39.tinypic.com/r1hc0h.jpg

[prefix-core]

Aren't they always? Haha.

[AP_Punk]

hahah. usually!

the guitar solo while standing behind the green screen - yowzas

[stupidtyonparad]

wikipedia says the album doesnt feature lars on lead vocals. granted its not cited, but again the personell it only lists him as backing vocals


again, not cited and it is wikipedia, but that very thought fuckign SCARES me.

[dissident]

why? lars songs were always weaker.

[stupidtyonparad]

wrong?

[Justin_stacy]

The song's really growing on me. Just gotta get that awful video out of my head....green screen bad, green screen bad.

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Here's the actual video so people don't have click the punknew's link.

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[chella182]

What does belta mean? Haha. I saw them at Bamboozle in NJ and Rise Against was a HUGE letdown. Of course, the short set and the terrible sound may have had something to do with that. But still. It just lacked the feeling I used to get watching them live...

Belta = awesome. Sorry :stickout: Geordie word haha.

[Justin_stacy]

Farmer's World is gonna upload a bunch of new albums this weekend...fingers crossed that this might be one of them.

[stupidtyonparad]

oh thank godddddddddddd

in the last rancid 'wepisode' theres footage of lars in the booth doing vocals, i was terrified for a couple'a days here

[prefix-core]

KROQ (http://www.kroq.com/) is streaming the Weenie Roast tonight on their Web site. Rancid has a 40-minute set, starting at 8:50pm PST / 11:50pm EST. Hopefully they play a few new songs.

[stupidtyonparad]

im watching that now, weezer is killing it

[prefix-core]

im watching that now, weezer is killing it

The MGMT/Lady Gaga cover was terrifying. Haha. And the fact that their set contains a couch and Rivers is wearing sweatpants? Makes up for everything else, if you ask me.

[stupidtyonparad]

their set was really good except htat cover, i woulda played el scorcho if i was them, but the good life!??!?! wasnt expecting that.

and yeah the couch was funny, and the kuzies haha

[prefix-core]

their set was really good except htat cover, i woulda played el scorcho if i was them, but the good life!??!?! wasnt expecting that.

and yeah the couch was funny, and the kuzies haha

Haha. I turned it off to listen to Green Day after that. Followed by Lagwagon. Shrug. I'll be tuning in for Rancid, though, for sure.

[stupidtyonparad]

east bay nights= good song

[prefix-core]

Yes, but I want details! Haha.

[stupidtyonparad]

east bay nights is up on rancid's myspace

[Justin_stacy]

It LEAKED!!!!

:celebrate:

I don't want to over do it but I'm half way through and its so far their best thing in more than ten years.

[prefix-core]

It LEAKED!!!!

:celebrate:

I don't want to over do it but I'm half way through and its so far their best thing in more than ten years.

I KNEW that dancing guy was there for a reason in the Punx thread for a reason. Haha. ;-) I just fucking KNEW IT! Now, if only the family weren't coming over to celebrate Memorial Day. Dammit all...

[Justin_stacy]

I KNEW that dancing guy was there for a reason in the Punx thread for a reason. Haha. ;-) I just fucking KNEW IT! Now, if only the family weren't coming over to celebrate Memorial Day. Dammit all...

You got a link for it or do you need one?

[prefix-core]

You got a link for it or do you need one?

No joke, man: I saw that post and immediately did a quick search. I got it. Haha. Thanks to Punkrockoi or whatever--that site has an awful name.

[Justin_stacy]

No joke, man: I saw that post and immediately did a quick search. I got it. Haha. Thanks to Punkrockoi or whatever--that site has an awful name.

The one I got to is called Farmer's World....what that has to do with punk music?

Let me know later what you think....I'm about 13 songs deep and first impression its their best since ....and out come the wolves. Look out for the song Civilian Ways, a ballad with a fiddle and tim singing....beautiful.

[stupidtyonparad]

You got a link for it or do you need one?

hook a brother uppppppp

tell me theres lars vocals right? i pray that rumor was bullshit

[Justin_stacy]

Lars sings, and there's alot of dual-singing.

[fly_guy]

It leaked

[Justin_stacy]

New Orleans is probably my favorite song so far....why the fuck that wasn't the first single is beyond me. Could of been a hell of a hit.

[fly_guy]

Im going to listen to this later. Is it good?

[stupidtyonparad]

It leaked

someone doesnt read before they post.

Lars sings, and there's alot of dual-singing.

praise be to god

New Orleans is probably my favorite song so far....why the fuck that wasn't the first single is beyond me. Could of been a hell of a hit.

dude, cause they had to let everyone know they're still around and are the last ones to die--obviously

............

oh, and thanks by the way, im gonna download now

[stupidtyonparad]

The one I got to is called Farmer's World....what that has to do with punk music?

Let me know later what you think....I'm about 13 songs deep and first impression its their best since ....and out come the wolves. Look out for the song Civilian Ways, a ballad with a fiddle and tim singing....beautiful.

i find this funny cause i thought rancid's best material sense wolves was...........life wont wait.

[SwiftSilentDead]

I'm going to attempt to wait this out. Not much longer.

[stupidtyonparad]

i dont know where all these lars songs you mentioned are.....

i didnt make it through the whole album on the way to work, but i got probably half way and only had one lars song (new orleans) and the two songs where all 3 guys sing but tim does lead

im kind of REALLY disappointed by that

[ugman_2000]

Life Won't wait has always been my favorite rancid album - always have thought it's better than ...and out come the wolves

I just love the variety of the record

[stupidtyonparad]

The one I got to is called Farmer's World....what that has to do with punk music?

Let me know later what you think....I'm about 13 songs deep and first impression its their best since ....and out come the wolves. Look out for the song Civilian Ways, a ballad with a fiddle and tim singing....beautiful.

theres a big difference between a fiddle and slide guitar and steel guitar


this album was a let down to me. lars was always my favorite member and hes taken a seat on the backburner it seems so tim can take the spotlight, not to mention, first album without the original three and no one knows where brett went. really bothers me, they always said it was always about being brothers not music.

not a bad record though

if i had to

life wont wait>lets go=wolves=rancid '96>b sides and c sides>dominoes=indestructable>rancid V

[caveBEAR]

I went over my uncles for a Memorial Day BBQ/Pool Party.


He played ...And Out Came The Wolves on his sound system outside. It was, strangely, a very good pick for a summer pool party. (Once you get past Maxwell Murders, that is.)

[caveBEAR]

not to mention, first album without the original three and no one knows where brett went. really bothers me, they always said it was always about being brothers not music.

If no ones knows where he went, and he's not in a new band, I would say the smart money is on him not wanting to do the music gig anymore. If that's true, and there was no bad blood, what would be wrong with them carrying on without him?

[Justin_stacy]

theres a big difference between a fiddle and slide guitar and steel guitar

I'm lucky if I can pick out a guitar. I just called it has I heard it.

[Greek]

the girl's a time bomb!

[prefix-core]

Let me know later what you think....I'm about 13 songs deep and first impression its their best since ....and out come the wolves. Look out for the song Civilian Ways, a ballad with a fiddle and tim singing....beautiful.

So, I took a listen to the record today and I have to say - it made me smile. While it probably won't touch Life Won't Wait or ...And Out Come the Wolves, it has a similar urgency--something that Indestructible was lacking. The large track number is balanced out by the diversity in the tracks (the ska/reggae tunes break it up in the best way possible and the simpler, acoustic/ballad-esque songs hit the sweet spot) makes it an easy listen.

Easily one of their best records, and far better than I had anticipated. The boys are back!

[stupidtyonparad]

if by the boys you mean tim...then i guess yeah they're back

lars is gone though...

[stupidtyonparad]

If no ones knows where he went, and he's not in a new band, I would say the smart money is on him not wanting to do the music gig anymore. If that's true, and there was no bad blood, what would be wrong with them carrying on without him?

well thats the thing. if there was no bad blood or nothing weird happened, why wouldnt they release some kind of statement on his behalf?

nah, instead it was 'hey guys, this is brandon, hes our new drummer!' and that was it. i find that odd as hell

[caveBEAR]

well thats the thing. if there was no bad blood or nothing weird happened, why wouldnt they release some kind of statement on his behalf?

nah, instead it was 'hey guys, this is brandon, hes our new drummer!' and that was it. i find that odd as hell

Just seems to me that the only reason to leave a successful band and not join some other musical venture is that he didn't want to do the music thing anymore. Maybe he requested to not really be brought up anymore. The internet sucks if you're semi-famous, some of them have to feel like the less information about themselves out there, the better.

EDIT: I know there would be other reasons, that just seems like the most logical to me.

[stupidtyonparad]

Just seems to me that the only reason to leave a successful band and not join some other musical venture is that he didn't want to do the music thing anymore. Maybe he requested to not really be brought up anymore. The internet sucks if you're semi-famous, some of them have to feel like the less information about themselves out there, the better.

EDIT: I know there would be other reasons, that just seems like the most logical to me.

there were a lot of rumors though when he first left, like he had medical issues was a big one, i also heard from a few people that he started doing heroin and they kicked him out. you think they would have just done something to clear stuff like that up, and that really bothers me from the self proclaimed punk-rock family.

i was worried about this band for a while and then i saw them last summer and they looked like they were having a great time and i was rejuvinated in my hopes, but now im just not sure. i really feel like lars is getting pushed in the corner, whether hes fine wiht it or not. if you go see them, hes the one who talks to the crowd, hes the one who plays guitar (tim just runs around and will hit a chord every now and then) and i just think hes where the heart has been the past few years and to see his gear spotlight in the webisodes just have him talk about playing rythmn guitar and not even plug in to give an example, and then to only hear him sing on 4 songs just seems like shit to me

oh well, sorry for the rant

[prefix-core]

...Maybe he just didn't have much to say this time-around? I was reading the Bouncing Souls story in this month's issue of Alternative Press, and they mentioned that Anchors Aweigh had something like, 75% of the songs written by Brian but Greg sang them instead because he wasn't comfortable singing them on-record or what-have-you.

I would much rather enjoy a great slab of music than concern myself with who sings more/less. It's kind of a silly thing to worry about. I mean, if you like Lars's vocals more than Tim's? Sure, I get it. But maybe he just didn't write much this time around.

Also: With regards to the "drummer" situation? Nobody really knows what happened. So, why worry about it? Anything any of us know is going to be nothing but hearsay. Unless, y'know, somebody happens to know the band or somebody close to them. In which case, speak up and cite your sources. Until then, you're just Jesse Ventura ranting about explosives and conspiracies.

[caveBEAR]

Brett's in my room right now. Let me ask him what happened.

[caveBEAR]

Wow. That's a crazy story...but he asked me to keep it to myself. I am going to honor his wishes.

[Justin_stacy]

So, I took a listen to the record today and I have to say - it made me smile. While it probably won't touch Life Won't Wait or ...And Out Come the Wolves, it has a similar urgency--something that Indestructible was lacking. The large track number is balanced out by the diversity in the tracks (the ska/reggae tunes break it up in the best way possible and the simpler, acoustic/ballad-esque songs hit the sweet spot) makes it an easy listen.

Easily one of their best records, and far better than I had anticipated. The boys are back!

I've listened to it twice now and I really like it...exactly what this year needed.

For me Indestructible never felt like a complete album, the standout tracks were surrounded by more than the average amount of 'rancid filler'. And it kind of dragged at the end. This one, and again this is on two quick run throughs, doesn't seem to have either of those problems. There's not a lot of songs I'd classify as filler, though there is some (LA River being a perfect example), and it certainly doesn't drag on the back half.

I absolutely agree with your second part, that the number of tracks is supported by the 'diversity' of the music, none of which i think are so distinct that it makes the album feel like just a bunch of songs thrown together.

I've probably said this to ya before, but while I love Life Won't Wait, I don't think its aged as well as some of their other releases, especially on the more reggae/ska stuff. So it wouldn't be out of the question for them to make a new album that could top it in my mind....while its early, so far I'm really impressed with Dominoes, and it might just be the album to knock LWW out of its #3 slot on Rancid's discography.

....Honestly how fun of a song is Dominoes Fall?

[Justin_stacy]

well thats the thing. if there was no bad blood or nothing weird happened, why wouldnt they release some kind of statement on his behalf?

nah, instead it was 'hey guys, this is brandon, hes our new drummer!' and that was it. i find that odd as hell

why does it matter? Most bands go through alot more members then one drummer in twenty years.

I guess I just don't have the same feelings as you, but I don't see how getting a new drummer can effect your opinion of their music.

[caveBEAR]

why does it matter? Most bands go through alot more members then one drummer in twenty years.

I guess I just don't have the same feelings as you, but I don't see how getting a new drummer can effect your opinion of their music.

Every member but a distinguishable musician and the singer are cannon fodder for me. So long as they don't lose a defining member towards their sound, I'm usually still onboard.

[prefix-core]

I've listened to it twice now and I really like it...exactly what this year needed.

For me Indestructible never felt like a complete album, the standout tracks were surrounded by more than the average amount of 'rancid filler'. And it kind of dragged at the end. This one, and again this is on two quick run throughs, doesn't seem to have either of those problems. There's not a lot of songs I'd classify as filler, though there is some (LA River being a perfect example), and it certainly doesn't drag on the back half.

I absolutely agree with your second part, that the number of tracks is supported by the 'diversity' of the music, none of which i think are so distinct that it makes the album feel like just a bunch of songs thrown together.

I've probably said this to ya before, but while I love Life Won't Wait, I don't think its aged as well as some of their other releases, especially on the more reggae/ska stuff. So it wouldn't be out of the question for them to make a new album that could top it in my mind....while its early, so far I'm really impressed with Dominoes, and it might just be the album to knock LWW out of its #3 slot on Rancid's discography.

....Honestly how fun of a song is Dominoes Fall?

"Dominoes Fall" is ridiculously fun. And it's nice to see that Green Day isn't the only band from the Bay Area calling back to their favorites (Ramones, anyone?) haha. I can see quite a few of these songs being really fun live. I mean, I can see Tim singing "East Bay Night" to the crowds with one hand on the mic, another on the guitar as I listen to it right now.

I seriously had the biggest smile on my face listening to the first few tracks off this record, while jogging down the street. I must have looked odd. Haha. But yeah, the different tracks on this album don't seem forced--they just fit with the rest of it. That was another issue I had with Indestructible. Some of the songs came off naturally, others just seemed forced and contrived (i.e., "Born Frustrated") or incomplete.

And we've had the Life Won't Wait discussion before. Haha. I'm really impressed with this one thus far, but I don't know that it'll topple Life Won't Wait or Out Come the Wolves. But it has potential to topple the rest. At least, that's how I feel 1.25 listens in, anyway...

[prefix-core]

...I think my favorite song on the record, thus far, might be "I Ain't Worried."

[Justin_stacy]

Every member but a distinguishable musician and the singer are cannon fodder for me. So long as they don't lose a defining member towards their sound, I'm usually still onboard.

I mean no knock to Reed, but its the drummer leaving. Not the singers, not the song writter, not the face of the band...but the drummer, for reasons that are of no business to anyone but the band. Lot's of bands go through numerous members, Rancid goes through one after twenty years and that can somehow effect one's impression of them. That just seems kind of nitpicking to me.

[caveBEAR]

I mean no knock to Reed, but its the drummer leaving. Not the singers, not the song writter, not the face of the band...but the drummer, for reasons that are of no business to anyone but the band. Lot's of bands go through numerous members, Rancid goes through one after twenty years and that can somehow effect one's impression of them. That just seems kind of nitpicking to me.

I agree. That was my point. Travis Barker or Jordan Burns leave their bands, I may not like the new direction. Brett leaves Rancid...we'll probably survive the switch.

[Justin_stacy]

I agree. That was my point. .

I know I was jsut ranting.

[Justin_stacy]

I seriously had the biggest smile on my face listening to the first few tracks off this record, while jogging down the street. I must have looked odd. Haha. But yeah, the different tracks on this album don't seem forced--they just fit with the rest of it. That was another issue I had with Indestructible. Some of the songs came off naturally, others just seemed forced and contrived (i.e., "Born Frustrated") or incomplete.

And we've had the Life Won't Wait discussion before. Haha. I'm really impressed with this one thus far, but I don't know that it'll topple Life Won't Wait or Out Come the Wolves. But it has potential to topple the rest. At least, that's how I feel 1.25 listens in, anyway...

There is so much I'd have cut from Indestructible. That thing should have been 12-14 songs long, not 19.

No fan of Let's Go? ...and out come the wolves is the undisputed champ, but next i've got Let's Go. That albums got so many great tracks.

[caveBEAR]

I know I was jsut ranting.

OK. Ha ha ha. Rants are good. I just didn't want you to wrongly rant at me. Ha ha ha.

I lurve Rancid...

[stupidtyonparad]

Wow. That's a crazy story...but he asked me to keep it to myself. I am going to honor his wishes.

you're pretty spectacular hahaah i must say

why does it matter? Most bands go through alot more members then one drummer in twenty years.

I guess I just don't have the same feelings as you, but I don't see how getting a new drummer can effect your opinion of their music.

rancid was the first band i really fell in love with (well, them and green day) and i didnt really know what punk meant at the time, so id see them all sitting together saying 'hey we're a family, if one of us were to quit, thats it, rancid would be done, we're all too close' and i was just like .........thats awesome. and i felt that that was the point behind this band, to be there for each other, to be close ect. thats why it bothers me, i wish they would at least say 'he left on good terms' or something

and am i the only one who likes indestructable!?!?! i almost ranked it higher than dominoes on the page before. i think it has some great energy and has some true shit in the lyrics. and the last song...fucking gold. at least in my opinion

[prefix-core]

rancid was the first band i really fell in love with (well, them and green day) and i didnt really know what punk meant at the time, so id see them all sitting together saying 'hey we're a family, if one of us were to quit, thats it, rancid would be done, we're all too close' and i was just like .........thats awesome. and i felt that that was the point behind this band, to be there for each other, to be close ect. thats why it bothers me, i wish they would at least say 'he left on good terms' or something

and am i the only one who likes indestructable!?!?! i almost ranked it higher than dominoes on the page before. i think it has some great energy and has some true shit in the lyrics. and the last song...fucking gold. at least in my opinion

That whole punk rock "family" mentality is something that has never resonated with me. People come and leave your life. Family members included. It may sound pessimistic, but it's reality. It's a very idealistic perspective to take.

You can sit there all day and talk about shit like that, but when push comes to shove? Sometimes it's best that two parties separate. I won't think less of a human being (or a band in this case) for walking away from a situation because they feel it's what's best for anybody involved.

As for Indestructible, it's not a bad album. It's pretty good. It just doesn't hold up well, in my opinion, when compared to the rest of their catalog. It feels stagnant at points ("David Courtney") and lacks the excitement/urgency of the other albums. There are real moments, and there are great songs...But, as Justin said, I think the album suffers from all sorts of filler.

[stupidtyonparad]

you confused the shit out of me cause my name's justin and i never said that haha

[Justin_stacy]

you're pretty spectacular hahaah i must say



rancid was the first band i really fell in love with (well, them and green day) and i didnt really know what punk meant at the time, so id see them all sitting together saying 'hey we're a family, if one of us were to quit, thats it, rancid would be done, we're all too close' and i was just like .........thats awesome. and i felt that that was the point behind this band, to be there for each other, to be close ect. thats why it bothers me, i wish they would at least say 'he left on good terms' or something

and am i the only one who likes indestructable!?!?! i almost ranked it higher than dominoes on the page before. i think it has some great energy and has some true shit in the lyrics. and the last song...fucking gold. at least in my opinion

I guess I'm just not as tied to a band's membership as you, so its hard for me to relate. NUFAN and Face To Face are my favorite punk bands even with all the lineup changes.....

Prior to the new one my list went. Wolves > Let's Go > Won't Wait > Indestructble > Self-Titled.....self-titled 2000 doesn't make the list cause it was just awful.

[stupidtyonparad]

wow, any hardcore punk would call you such a poser right now for that list hahahaha

rancid V has some good songs, but as a whole its too fast and the songs all sound way too much alike

[Justin_stacy]

wow, any hardcore punk would call you such a poser right now for that list hahahaha

rancid V has some good songs, but as a whole its too fast and the songs all sound way too much alike

you really think I'd care? I'm past the point in my life when I'll pretend somethings good for the sake of looking cool.

2000's got two songs worth remembering, other then that the whole thing is the band's worst offering.

[stupidtyonparad]

this is what i mean
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[caveBEAR]

this is what i mean
dEiD4nzyXdM

Ok. We get it. But what if, when Brett said he wanted out, he said he didn't want them to break up on account of it? Would that still be bad?

[stupidtyonparad]

no, but id want the band to fucking make a statement on his behalf

[Justin_stacy]

I sort of get ya, but it could very well be none of our business why he left the band. Bands don't owe it to their fans to discuss personal matters.

[stupidtyonparad]

well, if thats the case, then that makes the rest of the guys kinda hypocritical with what they said in that video

[caveBEAR]

Not really. People change and situations arise. Life happens.

[stupidtyonparad]

that was after indestructable came out, they had been a band for 10 years by that point, their ideas they lived by were pretty in place for a while


but something interesting. this album didnt leak. they have it streaming on their myspace now, we're listening to a rip, thats 2 albums in a row for me that didnt leak (this and 21st cb)

they also posted a big commentary on every track in the record, im seeing how much of it i can get through tonight

[stupidtyonparad]

god matt's voice is worse now than ever

[caveBEAR]

god matt's voice is worse now than ever

Well, he did have lung cancer...that may have attributed to it.

[Justin_stacy]

That's taking it a bit far, at the time the band probably did feel that if one member left they'd all throw it in....but then when confronted with the actually event, 3 of the four members decided they weren't ready to ended it all. I still can't figure out how that is so awful.

I just don't see the logic in your argument: Either Reed stays against his will, or the rest of the guys have to give of their lives. It doesn't make sense. Why is the 3rd the option, where everyone wins, so hard to take.

I've got a RS interview with Tim from 98' on my basement wall where he states he's gonna quit music and start a family at age 40....what a hypocrite right?

[caveBEAR]

I've got a RS interview with Tim from 98' on my basement wall where he states he's gonna quit music and start a family at age 40....what a hypocrite right?


WHAT?!?!!11!? Tim'sa total selloutz!!


And seriously...what band is going to go out there and say 'We actually can't stand each other. This is purely a business operation. If one of us left, especially that fucking obnoxious drummer, I don't think any of us would particularly care or notice. We once had a bassist quit and none of us realized until we went to record the album'.

[stupidtyonparad]

Well, he did have lung cancer...that may have attributed to it.

he didnt actually have lung cancer, he was mis-diagnosed

That's taking it a bit far, at the time the band probably did feel that if one member left they'd all throw it in....but then when confronted with the actually event, 3 of the four members decided they weren't ready to ended it all. I still can't figure out how that is so awful.

I just don't see the logic in your argument: Either Reed stays against his will, or the rest of the guys have to give of their lives. It doesn't make sense. Why is the 3rd the option, where everyone wins, so hard to take.

I've got a RS interview with Tim from 98' on my basement wall where he states he's gonna quit music and start a family at age 40....what a hypocrite right?

no the thing that bothers me is that if it wasnt such a big deal and they did just decide thats how they were dealing with it, why was there no explanation? why couldnt they at least put the issue to rest by explaining it somehow?

[caveBEAR]

he didnt actually have lung cancer, he was mis-diagnosed

Aaaahhhh. I see.

no the thing that bothers me is that if it wasnt such a big deal and they did just decide thats how they were dealing with it, why was there no explanation? why couldnt they at least put the issue to rest by explaining it somehow?

Because I think there's a very small amount of people who feel it's an issue.

[Justin_stacy]

no the thing that bothers me is that if it wasnt such a big deal and they did just decide thats how they were dealing with it, why was there no explanation? why couldnt they at least put the issue to rest by explaining it somehow?

Its tough to side with you because I don't care why he left, but one thing I'd put out is that Reed has never come out pulbicly saying anything himself. Maybe he didn't want his personal reason's for leaving at age 36 to be made public.

If he was forced to leave, or fired, or there was a money issue....that would of come out, nasty shit like that always leaks. The fact that nothings come out, or at least that google can find, leads me to believe it was personal and beyond what the band feels is of public interest.

I just wish you wouldn't hold such things against the ablum and let them effect your enjoyment of it.

[polarbearsummer]

Its the drummer. Its not like Lars or Matt left. And its not like it had any effect on the album. Who cares?

[ugman_2000]

Had a listen to the new album today while I was at work - 1st opinion is that it's ok but not great

There's some pretty awesome rancid songs(New Orleans, Dominoes Fall, Last One To Die) but there is a lot of songs which I'm not diggin(Damnation, Locomotive) & L.A. River I just find plain awful - I'll keep listening to the album over the week & see if it grows on me

I'm going with the fact I'm not loving this album being down to me having to be in a mood to listen to rancid nowadays as instead of me just loving them when I was a kid - I saw Rancid at the end of last year & while they were good live I found it a bit boring since it was pretty much the same show I saw them on back when Indestructible came out

[stupidtyonparad]

Its tough to side with you because I don't care why he left, but one thing I'd put out is that Reed has never come out pulbicly saying anything himself. Maybe he didn't want his personal reason's for leaving at age 36 to be made public.

If he was forced to leave, or fired, or there was a money issue....that would of come out, nasty shit like that always leaks. The fact that nothings come out, or at least that google can find, leads me to believe it was personal and beyond what the band feels is of public interest.

I just wish you wouldn't hold such things against the ablum and let them effect your enjoyment of it.


the album isnt that good at all though.

i listneed to it 3 times yesterday, once while reading their commentary, and then again this morning, and im not impressed at all. its mediocore, and is almost hanging on my 'worst rancid album' title. i almost put on rancid V to compare the two to see which was worse, but decided i didnt want to waste my time

actually, i just put it on in my itunes (which i dont have the whole album for some reason, just the standout tracks) and theres a lot more good songs on this record than dominoes (quiet alright, rwanada, radio havana, let me go, ggf, black derby jacket, dead bodies, just to name a few)

[Justin_stacy]

We at least agree that LA River is an awful song!

[stupidtyonparad]

theres a LOT more heart in rancid V too, like just listening to lars yellin 'hey tim come take this one home' just gives me goosebumps.

i dont want to say it cause theyve been my favorite punk band sense i was in jr high, but rancid. is over the hill.

[Justin_stacy]

the album isnt that good at all though.

i listneed to it 3 times yesterday, once while reading their commentary, and then again this morning, and im not impressed at all. its mediocore, and is almost hanging on my 'worst rancid album' title. i almost put on rancid V to compare the two to see which was worse, but decided i didnt want to waste my time

actually, i just put it on in my itunes (which i dont have the whole album for some reason, just the standout tracks) and theres a lot more good songs on this record than dominoes (quiet alright, rwanada, radio havana, let me go, ggf, black derby jacket, dead bodies, just to name a few)

As long as your assessment is based on the music and not the lineup, I think anything's fair.

I liked it a lot, but I've always loved Rancid, and in the current state my life's in I'm really enjoying music that relates to the more happier times in my life. I was absolutely floored with the new Left Alone for the same reason.....but that's just me.

[Justin_stacy]

When you say V you mean self-titled 2000, just so we're on the same page.

[stupidtyonparad]

As long as your assessment is based on the music and not the lineup, I think anything's fair.

I liked it a lot, but I've always loved Rancid, and in the current state my life's in I'm really enjoying music that relates to the more happier times in my life. I was absolutely floored with the new Left Alone for the same reason.....but that's just me.

haha holy shit have you listened to the lyrics at all? they're fucking depressing as shit on this record. half the record is about the war and tim's brother being overseas, and the other half is about the decline of the middle class. wheres happy?

[stupidtyonparad]

When you say V you mean self-titled 2000, just so we're on the same page.

yeah, the band itself calls it rancid 5 so thats just what i started calling it a little while ago

[polarbearsummer]

I Ain't Worried is just awful, sounds like it belongs on a Tim solo album, but regardless it just sucks.
LA River too, I thought it was a solid song with Matt singing until he does that shimmy stuff. Is that a joke?
I gotta give it some more listens. I hate listening off the myspace player.

[dissident]

wow, any hardcore punk would call you such a poser right now for that list hahahaha

rancid V has some good songs, but as a whole its too fast and the songs all sound way too much alike

read your first sentence. then read the second. i think those "hardcore punks" would be calling you the "poser"

[Justin_stacy]

haha holy shit have you listened to the lyrics at all? they're fucking depressing as shit on this record. half the record is about the war and tim's brother being overseas, and the other half is about the decline of the middle class. wheres happy?

Three listens and no booklet isn't enough time for me to get that far yet. Nor would it necassarily have a negative impression on me. Time Again's albums are all about homelessness and drug addiction, but musically that style of pop-punk is just fun for me to listen to.

[Justin_stacy]

yeah, the band itself calls it rancid 5 so thats just what i started calling it a little while ago

I thought the 'unofficial' title was skull....I just call it S/T 2000, either way you've bossed me around enough that I'm gonna download it right now and see if its still as awful as it was ten years ago.

[stupidtyonparad]

read your first sentence. then read the second. i think those "hardcore punks" would be calling you the "poser"

that post was a joke bro, and im listening to that album now and i just admitted i falsely criticized it. dominoes is the worst rancid album to date

Three listens and no booklet isn't enough time for me to get that fair yet. Nor would it necassarily have a negative on me. Time Again's albums are all about homelessness and drug addiction, but musically that style of pop-punk is just fun for me to listen to.

go on their myspace and click on the first blog post, its their commentary on every track. its probably what the booklet is goign to be like

[dissident]

well, if thats the case, then that makes the rest of the guys kinda hypocritical with what they said in that video

thing's change. feelings change. relationships change. that doesn't make them hypocritical.

[stupidtyonparad]

I thought the 'unofficial' title was skull....I just call it S/T 2000, either way you've bossed me around enough that I'm gonna download it right now and see if its still as awful as it was ten years ago.

sorry, im not trying to boss around, i thought we were having a discussion.

theres a lot of shit tracks on that record but theres some realllllly good ones. and i had never heard it called skull, i always used to call it rancid 2000 till i heard lars calling it rancid V, and then i was like ....well that makes sense..

[stupidtyonparad]

thing's change. feelings change. relationships change. that doesn't make them hypocritical.

no cause in their commentary of the album they reitterate these things. now that could mean that brett left on good terms, but still id like some sort of closure (ala when mattwong left reel big fish)

i want to point out im not tyring to hate, ive loved this band for my entire musical life, but i just dont like the direction this album has gone in and dont think its full of good songs at all.

i am, however, looking forward to the acoustic record (hope its not another let down)

[Justin_stacy]

sorry, im not trying to boss around, i thought we were having a discussion.

theres a lot of shit tracks on that record but theres some realllllly good ones. and i had never heard it called skull, i always used to call it rancid 2000 till i heard lars calling it rancid V, and then i was like ....well that makes sense..

I meant 'bossy' in a humorous way.

The few times i've seen it refered to in print its always Rancid (Skull Cover) or Rancid 2000, 5 was new to me, but I've also been out of the loop for many years.

[dissident]

no cause in their commentary of the album they reitterate these things. now that could mean that brett left on good terms, but still id like some sort of closure (ala when mattwong left reel big fish)

i want to point out im not tyring to hate, ive loved this band for my entire musical life, but i just dont like the direction this album has gone in and dont think its full of good songs at all.

i am, however, looking forward to the acoustic record (hope its not another let down)

this album is indestructible part two, it hasn't broken any new ground or gone in any sort of direction for the band.

[stupidtyonparad]

indestructable has good songs though, and isnt the tim armstrong album that this one is, its a rancid album

[dissident]

fair enough, but i hesitate to call this just a "tim armstrong" album when like it or not he is the face and voice of that band and formed it.

[stupidtyonparad]

fair enough, but i hesitate to call this just a "tim armstrong" album when like it or not he is the face and voice of that band and formed it.

i disagree. yeah him and matt formed the band, but from wolves on i can say i think lars and tim were equal in the way they led the band or were the face of it. lars could go and do interviews by himself, he could have tracks by himself, he plays songs live by himself (wars end, the band always leaves and its lars solo) and now he only gets one song, and tim's face is all over the cover of the album, it just seems weird/shitty to me

but according to the band they're a closer family than theyve ever been, which again, seems odd seeing the family's missing a member

[caveBEAR]

i disagree. yeah him and matt formed the band, but from wolves on i can say i think lars and tim were equal in the way they led the band or were the face of it. lars could go and do interviews by himself, he could have tracks by himself, he plays songs live by himself (wars end, the band always leaves and its lars solo) and now he only gets one song, and tim's face is all over the cover of the album, it just seems weird/shitty to me

but according to the band they're a closer family than theyve ever been, which again, seems odd seeing the family's missing a member

We had a smelly uncle run away on Memorial Day. We haven't seen him since. Our family has never been better or closer.

[stupidtyonparad]

that was yesterday, you should give it some time, see how the family copes

maybe one asshat will pretend hes king and shove his brother in the corner

[caveBEAR]

that was yesterday, you should give it some time, see how the family copes

maybe one asshat will pretend hes king and shove his brother in the corner

Nah, but we did punch my cousin with lung cancer in the throat.

Calm down, calm down, it turned out not to be lung cancer!