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Mercy Medical
10/15/04, 10:24 PM
So I'm not really sure where to start, or what to say, but I just feel like I need to get some things off my chest. Who knows if any of this is even going to make any sense to you people. It still feels somewhat awkward to me to reveal this information to you people, even if I may never meet you. It's something that's quite secretive in my life and that no one that knows me in real life even knows, except for one.

It's somewhat of a complicated situation and I've posted about it before so many of you may know what I'm about to talk about or what I'm about to say. For those who don't, SURPRISE! :)

So here's the basis of the situation in a nutshell. I ended up falling in love with my roommate almost 2 years ago. It just so happens, however, that my roommate is girl...of course. :) I've never had feelings for a girl before in my life so it was quite a strange situation. What was even strangers was that she was falling in love with me too and she was in the same boat, she never felt that way about another girl. So a few months later we actually start dating and we go out for about 9 months. During this whole period of time no one knew that we were together, it was basically our own little secret and we couldn't really display that affection most couples show to one another when we were out, so the only place that ever really happened was in the privacy of our own room.

Right before we started dating she was actually dating someone else, I guess you could call him her "high school sweetheart". They had been together for 2.5 years and for a while he wasn't part of the picture while we were together because he has this mentality that if they aren't together, they can't be friends (which I find to be complete BS because if you care for someone that much and you really want them in your life you'll get over those feelings and realize you need them as at least a friend, I was best friends with my ex in high school). But after she was away all summer at my house in Washington she started realizing that he really did miss her and really did care. So things got a bit rocky after that. I'd come back from soccer games and he'd be hanging out with her in our dorm room and they'd be laying on her bed together (which happened to be the bed I slept with her in every night) and he'd have his arm around her. I somewhat understood the situation because she couldn't tell him that we were together, so it would be weird to tell him no.

We continued dating through all of this and our relationship became a bit rocky. I didn't like the fact that she was hanging out with him, nor did I like the fact that she didn't know what was going to happen with him and her. It was all very complicated, all very screwed up. Then another boy comes around and asks her out, she says yes because in everyone else's eyes she wasn't attached to anybody. I was angry, we got in a fight and we broke up. That was in December.

There's been a few boys off and on since then, never really any ones that stuck because they all seem to be assholes, but that one, the ex, still stays. They still go and hang out every once in a while, maybe 1 to 2 times every 2 weeks, so that's really not all that much.

I dunno, feel like all of everything I just typed led up to nothing because I feel like I'm about to completely change the topic or the reason I'm writing this. I guess I'm just confused, I'm angry, I'm sad. I love this girl more than anything in the world and I've made sure to be around here as much as possible the past 2 years. I think the longest we spent away from each other was almost a month and that was during the winter break of my freshman year in high school. I spent the summer after freshman year with this girl and last summer with her as well. Last winter break I was only gone for 2 weeks so I could see her soon and the same goes for this winter break. I can't stand being away from this girl. I love her to death and I still want to be with her and that doesn't mean for the moment, but I would honestly want to be with this girl for the rest of my life, that's how strongly I feel. It's such a difficult situation because of how most of the world views our relationship, or I guess the relationship we would have if we were together. It makes it really difficult when my family is very Christian and I know how they view homosexuality, they don't approve. It's funny too because I don't even consider myself a homosexual. I've never felt this way about a female before and I really don't think I'll ever feel this way about another one. It's just strange.

Anyway, back to the main subject at hand. I don't think anyone here could really understand how I feel about this girl because you're not me and as much as I could describe my feelings, they're not even close to how it really is for me. My current issue is our overall situation. We're not together, so I have no right to say what she can or can't do. Right now she's out hanging out with her ex and I'm angry. I can't sleep when she's gone, I sit and wait up for her to get home. I'm just angry because her ex still really wants to be with her and still acts like they're together at times. She's told me before that she's truly contemplated telling him that there's no chance that they'll get back together (she's told me that her feelings for him and her love for him has changed a lot since their breakup and she just doesn't feel the same way she use to and they do have their difference so she doesn't think he's really the one for her), but the moment she says that their friendship is over. She's even told me that she hasn't said anything because she's still trying to hold onto that friendship. It upsets me somewhat because I feel like she's lying to him and lying to herself.

I'm angry, I'm jealous and all I want is to be with her. She's told me that if I was a guy, we would probably be together. For the most part I'm perfect for her and the only problems we ever really have have to do with the fact that we're not together and I get really jealous when she goes out and hangs out with her ex or hangs out with other guys. So if we're so perfect for each other, why aren't we together then? I understand why we aren't together because we're both females, but if we love each other that much, shouldn't it not matter? Shouldn't "love conquer all" as they say? I'm just frustrated. I want to be with this girl so bad and I love her so much and I know she feels the same way, I can see it in her eyes, but why does she have to go and see what else is out there? Why does she have to keep her ex around when all he's doing is trapping her in a corner?

I know some people might say, "give her up, it's not worth it", but I don't want to. I don't want to give up, I don't want to be with anyone else. Her and I still sleep next to each other almost every night. It's a situation where we're no together, but things happen where it would seem like we were. I know by allowing those things to happen it's probably making the situation harder on myself, but I want to be that close to her. I love her to death. At times I wish I could just skip forward in time and bypass all this bullshit, all these other guys and get to the point where we are together forever, but who's to say that's even going to happen? I dunno, I'm really not sure what else to type at this point. I'm not even sure if this was everything I wanted to say or if any of it made sense. I guess I just needed to vent and get some of these things off my chest.

So I guess all I'm asking for from you people is some feedback. What's your take on the situation, what would you do? I guess just talk to me. :)

Lueda Alia
10/15/04, 10:42 PM
Why don't you just show her this? And talk to her about how you feel?

And I also think you need to accept yourself... for being the way you are and loving another girl. And she does too. I think that's the very first step you both have to take. Because love has no gender.

Mercy Medical
10/15/04, 10:52 PM
Why don't you just show her this? And talk to her about how you feel?

And I also think you need to accept yourself... for being the way you are and loving another girl. And she does too. I think that's the very first step you both have to take. Because love has no gender.
Like I've said in other places if I showed her that I wrote any of this in this forum she would get mad for telling people. Actually, one other person knows about my situation and that's my best friend from high school and she hates him to death (because he was a serious asshole to me most of our friendship) and if she ever found out that he knew she would murder me.

She knows how I feel, we talk about it all the time and she gets sick of talking about it. I dunno, she's so sick of talking about it that I feel like there's no good time to bring it up and I feel like the subject itself has been said so many times she's just starting to get sick of hearing it. I'm just sitting here trying to be patient and wait and hope, but I'm starting to get impatient and that's turning into anger. I used to just get sad, but now as of late I'm getting mad. Anytime I see her ex at school I get pissed off. He was in some of my classes the past few years and I guess you could say we were friends, I guess aquiantences (sp?) would be a better word to use, but now I try to not even talk to him because the whole situation pisses me off. I feel like he's being controlling and pushing her in a corner by saying that if there's no chance of them getting back together.

I'm getting to the point with myself that I want to tell my parents because I feel like if I tell my parents and they don't completely flip out she might feel better about being with me, but at the same time she says what's the point in telling them when we're not even together. It just fuckin' sucks. :P

13th hour
10/16/04, 12:18 AM
wow. Ummm, I have no idea. But eda is totally right about the Love has no Gender thing.

punklet2101
10/16/04, 01:31 AM
wow. Ummm, I have no idea. But eda is totally right about the Love has no Gender thing.

I agree.

kimosabe
10/16/04, 06:35 AM
hmm..thats a tough one...your roommate definetly got good looks, thats for sure. What i wanna know is how close you are? i mean how do you know its not a really close friendship from her side? have you ever kissed? or gone further? in details...

Mercy Medical
10/16/04, 07:43 AM
hmm..thats a tough one...your roommate definetly got good looks, thats for sure. What i wanna know is how close you are? i mean how do you know its not a really close friendship from her side? have you ever kissed? or gone further? in details...
Sorry....no details. :)

kimosabe
10/16/04, 08:21 AM
Sorry....no details. :)
aww! c'mon! its integral as to what I would recomend you to do! I mean if you have never kissed or been that affectionate coudlnt it be that she(or you) are just confused and that you really are just really good friends? so....what have you done?

Mercy Medical
10/16/04, 08:33 AM
aww! c'mon! its integral as to what I would recomend you to do! I mean if you have never kissed or been that affectionate coudlnt it be that she(or you) are just confused and that you really are just really good friends? so....what have you done?
No, I'm pretty sure we're not just really good friends. :)

I'll leave it at that....

We dated for like 9 months.

_astheruinfalls
10/16/04, 08:39 AM
No, I'm pretty sure we're not just really good friends. :)

I'll leave it at that....

We dated for like 9 months.
Hahah.

How about you write her a letter, and leave it on her bed. Write her something like you wrote here. Just let all your feelings out. Tell her how you truly feel. If you put it in a letter, she can't really ignore it.

FallenFaerie013
10/16/04, 12:27 PM
SInce you said that she never wants to talk about it anymore maybe it's because she doesn't want to accept it or be in a relationship with you. Maybe if you ask her the reasons she thinks ya;ll shouldn't get together again and ask her to explain why she moved on you could either get back together or move past the whole situation. But I will say you are in a rough spot.

Mercy Medical
10/16/04, 02:25 PM
I guess it's not so much that she doesn't want to talk about it, I guess it's the times I choose to talk about it aren't the best ones. I know why we aren't together right now and that's because I'm not a guy and she's really worried about having to deal with the consequences that may come with us being together and what our families and other poeple may think. She also has this whole thing about how she's 21 and wants to live like a normal 21 year old. She's a beautiful girl and never really got all that much attention in high school as she does now, so I think part of her now since she has the opportunity to date wants to see what else is out there, but all the guys she's gone out on dates with have ended up being assholes. So I just sit here and wait and think to myself, the one who knows how to treat you the best is sitting right in front of your face :(

FallenFaerie013
10/16/04, 03:32 PM
I understand what your saying. Maybe you could show her how accepting people can be by getting involved wiht someone else. Sorta make her jealous and see what happens. I know you really love her and everything but maybe if you either tried going out wiht someone else or trying to tell her that those guys are assholes she might come around. But if you really love her you would let her take her time and make up her mind even though it may be a pain in the ass to wait around for her. You need to decide what you want to do too. Because what if she just really finds someone else to be with, what would you do. You should decide what will happen if she chooses someone else and can't accept it, that way it will be easier for you to move on if that is how it turns out.

13th hour
10/16/04, 05:03 PM
This thread and Eda's are totally tripping me out. Kimosabe being nice to people, a newbie that is cool?

The end times are near.

Tyler Revolution
10/16/04, 05:25 PM
This thread and Eda's are totally tripping me out. Kimosabe being nice to people, a newbie that is cool?

The end times are near.


Haha... I was also asking myself, "Is this the same kimsoabe that is usually on?" It's cool though.

Mercy Medical
10/16/04, 06:07 PM
I understand what your saying. Maybe you could show her how accepting people can be by getting involved wiht someone else. Sorta make her jealous and see what happens. I know you really love her and everything but maybe if you either tried going out wiht someone else or trying to tell her that those guys are assholes she might come around. But if you really love her you would let her take her time and make up her mind even though it may be a pain in the ass to wait around for her. You need to decide what you want to do too. Because what if she just really finds someone else to be with, what would you do. You should decide what will happen if she chooses someone else and can't accept it, that way it will be easier for you to move on if that is how it turns out.
I don't want to date anyone else, although I've thought about it. I've thought about distancing myself from her in that aspect so if we end up not being together, it won't hurt so bad. I don't really want to date someone else in an effort to make her jealous, because then I'm just using that other individual and that's not right.

What makes the situation even more difficult is that aside from dating we're best friends. I've promised her that if we don't end up together we'll always be best friends because I honestly never want to lose this girl completely. She's entirely too important to me.

XcrossmyheartX
10/16/04, 09:15 PM
To kara:

"What is love?
Baby don't hurt me
don't hurt me
no more"

I love you.

signed,
chewy

Mercy Medical
10/16/04, 09:18 PM
To kara:

"What is love?
Baby don't hurt me
don't hurt me
no more"

I love you.

signed,
chewy
????

XcrossmyheartX
10/16/04, 09:31 PM
personal random post?

Mercy Medical
10/16/04, 09:37 PM
personal random post?
Oh, okay...I thought it had some type of meaning behind it...that's why I was confused.

Coronary Parasite
10/17/04, 11:59 AM
i think everyone already said everything i want to say, or have said :(

i feel for you and i hope it works out, but you have a long, difficult road before any real clarity

Mercy Medical
10/17/04, 12:06 PM
That's so hard, I totally feel for you hun. I see where your girl is coming from though. She just wants this to be easy, and it doesn't seem like it's going to be. This situation seems really stupid though because I don't understand how she doesn't see how good you are being to her and how much you care. She has another guy that's only friends with her if he knows that they will be together at some point (which is really selfish) and then she has you that's right there, still friends with her, and she knows you are hurting and haven't cut her out of your life (which is selfless). I think you should write her a letter and tell her everything you wrote in this thread and then say that you love her but for now you need some space to get over her and then you can try to be friends again. You need to do something for yourself here, even though you promised you would stay friends, this seems to be killing you and no one would be selfish enough to hold you to that promise. Also maybe the time apart would make her realize how big a part of her you are, and she would want to get together despite how hard it would be. Just an idea, not an easy one, but an idea. I'm sorry though.

Pretty much anyone that's talked to me has told me that I need to give the situation space and use that to try to get over her. For one it's difficult to have space because we live together, we share a room together. Also, she's really my only true friend I have here at school, she's the only one I hang out with and the only one I really have any fun with. Everyone else is so caught up in the party lifestyle and that's just not me. But that's the way it's always been. I've always been different then most kids my age so I've never really had many true friends. For two, I don't want to. I guess you need to want to give it space or want to get over that individual, but I really don't. I don't want to lose those feelings for her, I don't want to date or be with anyone else, I don't want space. Granted, there are times that I think and know that I should, but I just can't seem to do it. There was even once where I asked her if she thought we should be friends still and she got really mad. She sounded really upset at the thought of us not being friends. It's hard because a lot of the time I feel like I am being selfless because I love this girl and at times I feel like she takes advantage of that, maybe not consciously, but subconsciously she does because she knows no matter what happens I'll still be waiting for her here. I guess I'm somewhat allowing myself to be stepped on, so why should I be complaining, ya know. *sigh*

I'm starting to get really pissed off about the situation with her and her ex and I'm about to steal "She has another guy that's only friends with her if he knows that they will be together at some point (which is really selfish) and then she has you that's right there, still friends with her, and she knows you are hurting and haven't cut her out of your life (which is selfless)." that from you and put it in a letter, but I think that's a VERY good point. :) I dunno, this situation just sucks. :(

Mercy Medical
10/17/04, 12:07 PM
i think everyone already said everything i want to say, or have said :(

i feel for you and i hope it works out, but you have a long, difficult road before any real clarity
Patience is a virtue, right? I was patient for a while, but it's going on a year since we broke up and I'm starting to lose that patience...:(

_astheruinfalls
10/17/04, 12:16 PM
Patience is a virtue, right? I was patient for a while, but it's going on a year since we broke up and I'm starting to lose that patience...:(
Do what I saiddddddddd.

Mercy Medical
10/17/04, 12:35 PM
Hahah.

How about you write her a letter, and leave it on her bed. Write her something like you wrote here. Just let all your feelings out. Tell her how you truly feel. If you put it in a letter, she can't really ignore it.
I've written her letters before and she knows most of my feelings, that's the only reason I'm hesitant about writing another letter. I don't think I've told her that I think it's really stupid what her ex is doing to her. Well, I may have, but I may not have been as blunt as I could be. I'm the type of person right now that I'm scared to be too blunt. I've had so few friendships in my life that I somewhat walk on eggshells with this one. I don't want to do anything to screw it up because it's entirely too important to me. So half the time I don't even say the things I want to say because I'm scared that she's going to run away if I do.

_astheruinfalls
10/17/04, 01:12 PM
I've written her letters before and she knows most of my feelings, that's the only reason I'm hesitant about writing another letter. I don't think I've told her that I think it's really stupid what her ex is doing to her. Well, I may have, but I may not have been as blunt as I could be. I'm the type of person right now that I'm scared to be too blunt. I've had so few friendships in my life that I somewhat walk on eggshells with this one. I don't want to do anything to screw it up because it's entirely too important to me. So half the time I don't even say the things I want to say because I'm scared that she's going to run away if I do.
But if you don't fully express yourself, how can you expect her to love you for you? You have to be yourself, don't hold back. Tell her exactly how you feel. Be blunt. If she truly loves you and cares, then it won't matter to her because it is just your opinion.

Mercy Medical
10/17/04, 01:39 PM
But if you don't fully express yourself, how can you expect her to love you for you? You have to be yourself, don't hold back. Tell her exactly how you feel. Be blunt. If she truly loves you and cares, then it won't matter to her because it is just your opinion.
I feel like I'm starting to realize that she doesn't truly love and care about me...I fuckin' hate my life sometimes...

_astheruinfalls
10/17/04, 01:43 PM
I feel like I'm starting to realize that she doesn't truly love and care about me...I fuckin' hate my life sometimes...
So find out if she truly does.

Mercy Medical
10/17/04, 01:49 PM
So find out if she truly does.
I'm sorry, I don't know how much of that last statement I said was really truly how I feel. I'm just so fuckin' confused right now with everything. I'm starting to think that maybe I'm not so sure about what I really want in my life anymore.

It's hard being in love with someone that's so busy that they don't even have the time to sit down and contemplate this situation. It sucks feeling like the big burden all the time.

_astheruinfalls
10/17/04, 01:56 PM
I'm sorry, I don't know how much of that last statement I said was really truly how I feel. I'm just so fuckin' confused right now with everything. I'm starting to think that maybe I'm not so sure about what I really want in my life anymore.

It's hard being in love with someone that's so busy that they don't even have the time to sit down and contemplate this situation. It sucks feeling like the big burden all the time.
Yeah, we all go through times like that at one point or another.

Yes, you are right. So make her make time. Spill your heart out. There isn't really anything you can do. You can tell her how you feel, but the rest is up to her. I think you should tell her to choose, because this isn't fair to you.

Mercy Medical
10/17/04, 01:59 PM
Yeah, we all go through times like that at one point or another.

Yes, you are right. So make her make time. Spill your heart out. There isn't really anything you can do. You can tell her how you feel, but the rest is up to her. I think you should tell her to choose, because this isn't fair to you.
Well, she has choosen somewhat in the fact that she doesn't want to be with me right now. She doesn't really want to be with anyone right now because she's so busy, but why she still makes time to go out on dates sometimes with guys is beyond me. She told me just a little bit ago that at this point in her life she wants to do things she never did before. In high school she always had a boyfriend, so now she wants to date. I guess I know what she wants and what she wants to do, but I just have a hard time waiting or a hard time thinking about the future and what it may hold.

Why can't I just travel back in time to two years ago when everything was perfect and try to prevent what's happening now from happening, but I don't think I could.

_astheruinfalls
10/17/04, 02:14 PM
Well, she has choosen somewhat in the fact that she doesn't want to be with me right now. She doesn't really want to be with anyone right now because she's so busy, but why she still makes time to go out on dates sometimes with guys is beyond me. She told me just a little bit ago that at this point in her life she wants to do things she never did before. In high school she always had a boyfriend, so now she wants to date. I guess I know what she wants and what she wants to do, but I just have a hard time waiting or a hard time thinking about the future and what it may hold.

Why can't I just travel back in time to two years ago when everything was perfect and try to prevent what's happening now from happening, but I don't think I could.
Basically, if you don't do anything, you'll be stuck between a rock and a hard place for a long time. But I seriously can not think of anything for you to do. This is a hard situation. Basically all you can do is what you think you should do. Go with your first instinct.

Mercy Medical
10/17/04, 02:18 PM
Basically, if you don't do anything, you'll be stuck between a rock and a hard place for a long time. But I seriously can not think of anything for you to do. This is a hard situation. Basically all you can do is what you think you should do. Go with your first instinct.
My first instinct is that this is going to end up good in the end, lol, so I guess that means I'm sticking around and I just need to deal with the bullshit. :P

TJ, you're always so good at advice. You're such a wise young boy...lol

_astheruinfalls
10/17/04, 02:37 PM
My first instinct is that this is going to end up good in the end, lol, so I guess that means I'm sticking around and I just need to deal with the bullshit. :P

TJ, you're always so good at advice. You're such a wise young boy...lol
As long as you know that's what you truly want, then do it with all your heart. But along the way, try to always show her how you feel about her. Try doing some of those really small romantic things. I don't know.

Haha, thank you. :)

Mercy Medical
10/17/04, 02:41 PM
As long as you know that's what you truly want, then do it with all your heart. But along the way, try to always show her how you feel about her. Try doing some of those really small romantic things. I don't know.

Haha, thank you. :)
I usually do the small romantic things a lot, I haven't lately because I've been so unsure of the situation, but maybe I should pick back up again. I wanted to get her flowers today because I made her mad and she loves flowers, but my damn car isn't working. :(

_astheruinfalls
10/17/04, 02:48 PM
I usually do the small romantic things a lot, I haven't lately because I've been so unsure of the situation, but maybe I should pick back up again. I wanted to get her flowers today because I made her mad and she loves flowers, but my damn car isn't working. :(
Runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Forest runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Mercy Medical
10/17/04, 02:53 PM
Runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Forest runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
I've thought about walking down to the grocery store and buying some flowers. Hell, that might even be more meaningful then getting in my car and driving because it just means that I took the time and effort to walk all the way to the store to buy the girl flowers. Now I just gotta fit that into my day before she gets home from work at 7PM.

It's quite a walk to the store though, I'll tell ya that much...

_astheruinfalls
10/17/04, 02:56 PM
Do it.

Mercy Medical
10/17/04, 06:56 PM
Do it.
Okay, I didn't do it because I had to clean the apartment and that took a while, but that was something sweet for my girl because she usually cleans the apartment. :)