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Jonathan Lally
10/18/04, 12:04 PM
The Starting Line (http://www.startinglinerock.com) will be handing out samplers (the same rough versions off purevolume.com) with the tracks "Surprise, Surprise" and "Bedroom Talk" on their current tour with Yellowcard. In addition to the songs, the cd sampler has a nice little video of the band recording their new full-length "Based On A True Story."

Cover art of the cd sampler is attached.

dang
10/18/04, 12:05 PM
someone should tell kenny he really needs a haircut. he looks like an enormous douche.

aminorthreat55
10/18/04, 12:06 PM
someone should tell kenny he really needs a haircut. he looks like an enormous douche.

Yeah, /a girl.

jynxedheart
10/18/04, 12:08 PM
i dunno, i kinda like it in that new wave lesbian kinda way. mmm ride em cowboy.

Finch076
10/18/04, 12:10 PM
...and while they are doing that they should probably let Tom know that the popped collar needs to be stopped immediatly!!! He's not a frat boy - well, as far as i know he isn't. Regardless though....drop the collar dude!

ericcombat
10/18/04, 12:10 PM
its cute, i bet from behind he looks like a girl. wait, from the front he looks like a girl.....heh heh heh awwwwllllright.

hondymon
10/18/04, 12:11 PM
whoa, i didn't know you could legally cut and paste on an album cover, b/c brand new has the EXACT same one...come on now guys, if you're copying artwork, what's that saying about the music?

ParisInFlames55
10/18/04, 12:21 PM
someone should really tell them that these two songs are horrible. the starting line was my favorite pop punk band, what the hell happened with these two songs though. they need to go back the drawing board. musically they are still awesome, but i can't get past some of the lyrics. normally lyrics don't make a difference to me, but some of these are just utter shit for lack of a better word.

MDR
10/18/04, 12:50 PM
someone should tell kenny he really needs a haircut. he looks like an enormous douche.

I cannot believe it is "cool" to have hair like that

auriken
10/18/04, 12:53 PM
i liked the first version of the song better, when i first heard it last year, before the Make Yourself at Home acoustic... did anyone else hear it?

Greg
10/18/04, 01:22 PM
yea the first version was decent

MaybeOneDay
10/18/04, 01:26 PM
gayest looking band ever.

Finch076
10/18/04, 01:31 PM
gayest looking band ever.

haha. the overall bluntness of this statement just made me laugh. I'm not agreeing with it, or disagreeing with it for that matter....i just think it's funny.

ProblemWithFire
10/18/04, 02:26 PM
Fuck this band and their new stupid ass songs. That chick on the left would look kinda cute though if it wasn't for that frown.

StartingLine182
10/18/04, 03:01 PM
I really like them, but I have to agree about Kennys hair. It use to be ok, but it just plain looks like a chic now. And I'm not a big fan of the lyrics to "Bedroom Talk".

xKittycatx
10/18/04, 03:20 PM
Fuck this band and their new stupid ass songs. That chick on the left would look kinda cute though if it wasn't for that frown.

Hahaha @ you thinking he's a chick.

I hate guys that wear flip flops. I don't know why. I think because it girly.. or gay.. or because guys have hairy feet.

TheGreenSeas
10/18/04, 03:33 PM
...and while they are doing that they should probably let Tom know that the popped collar needs to be stopped immediatly!!! He's not a frat boy - well, as far as i know he isn't. Regardless though....drop the collar dude!

since when is the popped collar something that frat boys do? the flipped collar has been around for like 5 years and yet it's still cool....get a clue though...basically, Tom is the man, his shirt is sweet (w/ the collar up), his sandals are awesome (i have the same ones), and the rest of the band is also very cool....kenny just needs to go back to his old hair style

TheGreenSeas
10/18/04, 03:35 PM
Hahaha @ you thinking he's a chick.

I hate guys that wear flip flops. I don't know why. I think because it girly.. or gay.. or because guys have hairy feet.

i think that's just something guys with nasty feet say....

TSLManager
10/18/04, 04:07 PM
Since when is music about how someones hair looks? If you don't like the band based on a haircut I don't think they need you as a fan. I guess I should call Kenny and tell him he needs to look just like every other kid that goes to shows, that will make him cool!

I'll respect you if you hate on the music but personal insults on a haircut is a fucking joke!






someone should tell kenny he really needs a haircut. he looks like an enormous douche.

dillonzach86
10/18/04, 04:18 PM
I really like them, but I have to agree about Kennys hair. It use to be ok, but it just plain looks like a chic now. And I'm not a big fan of the lyrics to "Bedroom Talk".

Yeah, the song sounds pretty cool but the lyrics are really bad.

Jonathan Lally
10/18/04, 04:53 PM
and for anyone commenting about the lyrics in "bedroom talk", wait until you see the interview.. kenny goes into detail about why he wrote that.

remember, writers/singers/artists don't write for you guys, they write for themselves, and that's how it should be.

xKittycatx
10/18/04, 04:53 PM
i think that's just something guys with nasty feet say....

I'm a girl, and i have the most beautiful feet ever!! :wink3:

WheresTheChorus
10/18/04, 05:05 PM
how come anytime there is a starting line post, the comments are pretty much all about their appearance

TheGreenSeas
10/18/04, 05:34 PM
how come anytime there is a starting line post, the comments are pretty much all about their appearance


the comments recently are all about kenny's hair and the bedroom talk lyrics....but in my opinion, the starting line will always be great no matter what.

*NotQuiteHeros*
10/18/04, 09:23 PM
I really like them, but I have to agree about Kennys hair. It use to be ok, but it just plain looks like a chic now. And I'm not a big fan of the lyrics to "Bedroom Talk".
Ok I feel compelled to come out of hiding and comment.. Bedroom talk has some amazing lyrics they are the first band In our genre to touch up on the sex talk and you don't get better lyrics then "I'm gonna tear your ass up like we just got married.." Maybe it's because all of you are like 15 and have never had sex.. Second I can't remember who commented on the surpise surprise lyrics...But I love how he describes the I'll let you go tell all your friends, "Oh my god! Let me describe to you this guy,
his name is Ken, he's in this band that writes such,
awful songs about me all the time."
You're goddamn right!" those are fantastic lyrics.. I don't know what's the matter with ya'll :wink3:

dillonzach86
10/19/04, 12:43 AM
Ok I feel compelled to come out of hiding and comment.. Bedroom talk has some amazing lyrics they are the first band In our genre to touch up on the sex talk and you don't get better lyrics then "I'm gonna tear your ass up like we just got married.." Maybe it's because all of you are like 15 and have never had sex.. Second I can't remember who commented on the surpise surprise lyrics...But I love how he describes the I'll let you go tell all your friends, "Oh my god! Let me describe to you this guy,
his name is Ken, he's in this band that writes such,
awful songs about me all the time."
You're goddamn right!" those are fantastic lyrics.. I don't know what's the matter with ya'll :wink3:

Im 18. Ive never had sex. And Im not going to until I am married. The lyrics are pretty bad. Yes, he can write what he wants, but a lot of their fans are teenagers and singing about one night stands is not really a great message to be putting out.

TSLManager
10/19/04, 07:34 AM
Try actually listening to what he says thats not what he is saying at all. I'm not going to talk about his personal life here but I know for a fact that Kenny has never had a one night stand. Try dropping your fear of sex and actually listen to what he's saying.



Im 18. Ive never had sex. And Im not going to until I am married. The lyrics are pretty bad. Yes, he can write what he wants, but a lot of their fans are teenagers and singing about one night stands is not really a great message to be putting out.

toddisawesome
10/19/04, 08:13 AM
i've had a lot of sex and i still hate that song. to be fair though, i stopped listening after that whole tearing your ass up like we just got married line. theres cheesy and then there's just plain stupid.

yc_mest
10/19/04, 04:07 PM
thats great news. his hair looks fuckin rad i dont know what other people are talking about

dillonzach86
10/20/04, 01:18 AM
Try actually listening to what he says thats not what he is saying at all. I'm not going to talk about his personal life here but I know for a fact that Kenny has never had a one night stand. Try dropping your fear of sex and actually listen to what he's saying.

Im not afraid of sex sir.

TSLManager
10/20/04, 04:06 AM
then what is causing you to create your thought that this song is about a one night stand? Did you think it could be about dreaming about having sex for the first time? Is that a bad message to wonder what it would be like? I doubt there is anyone on this board that never thought about sex



Im not afraid of sex sir.

dillonzach86
10/20/04, 03:10 PM
then what is causing you to create your thought that this song is about a one night stand? Did you think it could be about dreaming about having sex for the first time? Is that a bad message to wonder what it would be like? I doubt there is anyone on this board that never thought about sex

That's how I interpreted the lyrics. Obviously I was wrong. I apologize.