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punkDbass
08/26/08, 10:35 AM
Any suggestions of some good hardcore/screamo music? Preferably music where they dont just scream 100% of the time, if you know what I mean.

I need some cool stuff to play on bass and a lot of those hardcore bands have pretty good bassists.

any suggestions?

West49ur
08/26/08, 01:43 PM
were you lookin for like some post-hardcore shit too? cuz it has more melodic shit, which isint 100% screamo. if so, check out
dead and divine
bravo armada
underoath
haste the day
this is the hospital
senses fail
atreyu

frodo22969052
08/27/08, 02:57 AM
Confide, Norma Jean, The Chariot, A Skylit Drive, Here I Come Falling, herbrightskies, Alexisonfire, The Bled, Fightstar, Saosin.
I could go on forever...Just check them out not sure on their bassists, good music though haha.

punkDbass
08/27/08, 07:31 PM
were you lookin for like some post-hardcore shit too? cuz it has more melodic shit, which isint 100% screamo. if so, check out
dead and divine
bravo armada
underoath
haste the day
this is the hospital
senses fail
atreyu

yea i think post hardcore is the genre im looking for ;)

thanks for the suggestions

West49ur
08/27/08, 08:28 PM
yah man. for sure. check out some of the bands that frodo mentioned aswell. Skylit Drive is decent aswell as alexisonfire and saosin. Some more heavier bands but still follow the outline for a post hardcore band that Frodo mention are The Bled, The Chariet and Norma Jean. cant go wrong though. haha

Klatzke
08/27/08, 09:35 PM
How about..

Post Hardcore

Circus Circus
Dance Gavin Dance
Lower Definition
Kills And Thrills
Amplexus
Oceana

Metalcore

Norma Jean 's new records not bad..
My Hero Is Me
Ligeia

justletgo
08/27/08, 09:42 PM
definitely check out hot cross.
and try saetia if your up for some real screamo

Stephen Chamberlain
08/28/08, 11:24 AM
definitely check out hot cross.
and try saetia if your up for some real screamo

I don't think he's looking for skramz, which if often a better genre tag for this type of music in order to avoid confusion with the bastardized version.

Not obscure at all, but if you haven't heard Envy and call yourself a lover of hardcore, well, that's just wrong.

www.myspace.com/officialenvy (http://www.absolutepunk.net/www.myspace.com/officialenvy)

myplasticyou
08/29/08, 09:46 AM
grade- separate the magnets

Prem
08/29/08, 02:08 PM
For post-hardcore, grab At the Drive-in's Relationship of Command and Bear vs. Shark's Right Now...

West49ur
08/29/08, 04:58 PM
A Day to Remember aswell dude

Blueskyburning
08/29/08, 05:06 PM
gorilla biscuits
the wrong side
floorpunch
black flag
cro-mags

thesafeword
08/29/08, 07:03 PM
Yeah, he's obviously looking for faux-screamo and faux-hardcore.

Blueskyburning
08/30/08, 04:03 AM
lololololol

Petzl
08/30/08, 03:09 PM
Vanna

punkDbass
08/30/08, 03:13 PM
any more examples with maybe a little less screaming?

bands that sound like these bands would be cool:

silverstein
a day to remember
I am ghost
The Used
Beloved
Four Letter Lie
A Skylit Drive
Dead and Divine

you know, bands with a little less screaming but with that hardcore drum and bass sound. If you know what I mean.... lol

lew_1987
08/30/08, 04:35 PM
I really wish people would stop lumping some bad bands in with this genre.

thesafeword
08/30/08, 04:52 PM
Screamo will always be a misconception.

Brandon Allin
08/30/08, 06:12 PM
I really wish people would stop lumping some bad bands in with this genre.
Does it really matter at the end of the day? I understand how it could be annoying, but genres will always be subjective to the casual listener, so there's no sense in losing sleep over it. :-)

Klatzke
08/30/08, 09:29 PM
any more examples with maybe a little less screaming?

bands that sound like these bands would be cool:

silverstein
a day to remember
I am ghost
The Used
Beloved
Four Letter Lie
A Skylit Drive
Dead and Divine

you know, bands with a little less screaming but with that hardcore drum and bass sound. If you know what I mean.... lol
70% of my recs have a lot of singing.

lew_1987
08/31/08, 02:01 AM
Does it really matter at the end of the day? I understand how it could be annoying, but genres will always be subjective to the casual listener, so there's no sense in losing sleep over it. :-)

Because at the end of the day, mis-labelling of genres is what causes all that shitty news coverage about 'emo', which really pissed/pisses me off, haha.

thesafeword
08/31/08, 02:23 AM
It does get quite annoying.

Brandon Allin
08/31/08, 11:16 AM
What are some good bands along the lines of Senses Fail - Still Searching?

circa jusTurna
09/02/08, 11:40 PM
Along with DanceGavinDance, check out Emarosa.

Klatzke
09/03/08, 08:46 AM
What are some good bands along the lines of Senses Fail - Still Searching?
Hawthorne Heights? lol.

Before Their Eyes
Akissforjersey
Destroy the Runner's I, Lucifer
Emery

OdeToTheSun
09/03/08, 10:43 AM
Coalesce

Ricky222
09/06/08, 01:40 PM
Chiodos, Pierce The Veil, Secret & Whisper, Dance Gavin Dance especially their first cd, Emarosa's first cd, Saosin

Also myspace.com/attackattack

They just got signed to Rise Records and are coming out with an album in november. Their live show in Cleveland was fucking incredible.

morebreakdowns
09/06/08, 01:52 PM
i started a post like this and i had some ap.net elitlists bitch so i'l be nice and actually give suggestions:
BEFORE THEIR EYES
CATHERINE
SKY EATS AIRPLANE
ENTER SHIKARI
OUR LAST NIGHT
BURDEN OF A DAY
AKISSFORJERSEY
KINGSTON FALLS
FOUR LETTER LIE
THE HOTTNESS
ACROSS FIVE APRILS
FAREWELL TO FREEWAY
PIERCE THE VEIL
SEVER YOUR TIES
I SEE STARS
OH, SLEEPER
MEMPHIS MAY FIRE
JAMIE'S ELSEWHERE
i know it's a long list... good luck!

Ricky222
09/06/08, 02:16 PM
Yeah, most people on this site hate this genre of music. It's not like music is subjective or anything you know?

punkDbass
09/06/08, 07:58 PM
sweet nice list, ill check those out!

thesafeword
09/06/08, 08:10 PM
i started a post like this and i had some ap.net elitlists bitch so i'l be nice and actually give suggestions:
BEFORE THEIR EYES
CATHERINE
SKY EATS AIRPLANE
ENTER SHIKARI
OUR LAST NIGHT
BURDEN OF A DAY
AKISSFORJERSEY
KINGSTON FALLS
FOUR LETTER LIE
THE HOTTNESS
ACROSS FIVE APRILS
FAREWELL TO FREEWAY
PIERCE THE VEIL
SEVER YOUR TIES
I SEE STARS
OH, SLEEPER
MEMPHIS MAY FIRE
JAMIE'S ELSEWHERE
i know it's a long list... good luck!
No screamo or hardcore bands here, try again.

morebreakdowns
09/06/08, 08:17 PM
No screamo or hardcore bands here, try again.

then what would you call all the bands i listed?

thesafeword
09/06/08, 08:40 PM
Same type as stuff as Silverstein and Underoath. I mean, it screams, but it's not screamo. Try the obvious starters of Saetia, Circle Takes the Square, Pg. 99, Funeral Diner, etc. for real screamo.

myplanforescape
09/06/08, 09:04 PM
Yeah, most people on this site hate this genre of music. It's not like music is subjective or anything you know?

Or it could be that people actually like real screamo/post-hardcore bands and don't like to see the terms applied incorrectly to bands plus there is already at least one thread on the front page asking for pretty much the same stuff.

thesafeword
09/06/08, 09:11 PM
Pretty much.

Ericc
09/07/08, 08:31 AM
idk if this band was mentioned yet but trophy scars is pretty good in my opinion if you wanna check them out = )

mattandlater
09/07/08, 04:09 PM
escape the fate with ronnie radke

thesafeword
09/07/08, 10:07 PM
Not screamo or hardcore, but pure shit.

Jacks0nishere
09/08/08, 11:12 AM
I really wish people would stop lumping some bad bands in with this genre.

Not screamo or hardcore, but pure shit.



Hey heres an idea lets stop trolling the forms just to bash everyones music. This post was under recommendations for a reason... So post a recommendation and move the fuck on.

And Im sorry but you and these kids on these forms are not the genre definers. Even though its aggravating dont bitch on someones thread that just looking for new music that lame.

Also from an educated opinion I HATE with a fiery passion how music is classified and most of these bands that are listed here, depending on how much you want to break down and sub-genre rock music, are probably not classified specifically right but this is not the place to bitch. Create a tread and bitch there. Just post what music you like that halfway fits and go on with it.



For the actual poster of this thread,
For what your looking for check this out...

Emanuel
He Is Legend
Maylene and the Sons of Disaster
The Bled
Every Time I Die
It Dies Today
Unearth
All That Remains
Terror
Walls Of Jericho
August Burns Red
Thursday
Comeback Kid
Jonbenet
Fear Before The March Of Flames
Bane
Bloodlined Calligraphy
The Fall Of Troy
Secret Lives Of The Freemasons
Light This City
Since The Flood
The Agonist
Caldwell
From Autumn to Ashes
Carpathian
Calico System
Endwell
Arch Enemy
Bleed The Dream
I Killed The Prom Queen
Funeral For A Friend


I know this is a big list but i try to cover as many of the band that I enjoy that weren't enjoy. Hopefully this is what you were shooting for.

Klatzke
09/08/08, 11:15 AM
Try Hand To Hand too.

thesafeword
09/08/08, 08:51 PM
Hey heres an idea lets stop trolling the forms just to bash everyones music. This post was under recommendations for a reason... So post a recommendation and move the fuck on.

And Im sorry but you and these kids on these forms are not the genre definers. Even though its aggravating dont bitch on someones thread that just looking for new music that lame.

Also from an educated opinion I HATE with a fiery passion how music is classified and most of these bands that are listed here, depending on how much you want to break down and sub-genre rock music, are probably not classified specifically right but this is not the place to bitch. Create a tread and bitch there. Just post what music you like that halfway fits and go on with it.
Will he back this up?

For the actual poster of this thread,
For what your looking for check this out...

Emanuel
He Is Legend
Maylene and the Sons of Disaster
The Bled
Every Time I Die
It Dies Today
Unearth
All That Remains
Terror
Walls Of Jericho
August Burns Red
Thursday
Comeback Kid
Jonbenet
Fear Before The March Of Flames
Bane
Bloodlined Calligraphy
The Fall Of Troy
Secret Lives Of The Freemasons
Light This City
Since The Flood
The Agonist
Caldwell
From Autumn to Ashes
Carpathian
Calico System
Endwell
Arch Enemy
Bleed The Dream
I Killed The Prom Queen
Funeral For A Friend


I know this is a big list but i try to cover as many of the band that I enjoy that weren't enjoy. Hopefully this is what you were shooting for.
Nope.

frodo22969052
09/09/08, 04:51 PM
Will he back this up?


Nope.


I thought exactly the same thing :P
It's not even like he was slighty wrong.
It was an epic fail.

Comeback kid are good though

Synch Mosher
09/09/08, 10:56 PM
Try The Getaway Plan, an Australian band. They're good live, and they have some awesome stuff.

ahhhbrutal
09/10/08, 12:38 AM
Good band from cali! They don't scream all the time and they are just amazing!

The Affliction
09/10/08, 02:32 AM
Wah, I want "Screamo."
Get over yourself. I love Circle Takes the Square, they're an intricate band with raw screaming, and great instrumentals. They're not screamo. How dare you label them so.

thesafeword
09/10/08, 10:19 PM
And anything else in here is screamo? And it's widely accepted that CTTS is screamo and if say that they're not then you're probably just trying to look cool. But that's beside the point, so I'd say check out Saetia.

bblibooking
09/10/08, 11:06 PM
I am abomination
Oceana
Casari
Here I Come Falling
Kills And Thrills
Memphis May Fire

Jacks0nishere
09/11/08, 04:12 PM
Will he back this up?


Nope.

I thought exactly the same thing :P
It's not even like he was slighty wrong.
It was an epic fail.

Comeback kid are good though


Well If you could pull your head far enough out of your ass to read what I wrote it would be clear that I dont give two shits about how you classify your bands. I said specifically that I hated the way bands are classified but I never said the bands I listed were what you consider screamo.... Furthermore the bands I listed is just music that I listed too that I thought the person who posted this thread might enjoy as well. Once again Ill have to repeat myself when I say that if your going to bitch or try to be some fucking E-thug go create your own thread and leave the people who come here to expand their musical interest alone. kthx

thesafeword
09/11/08, 09:50 PM
It's not what I fucking consider screamo, I never decided this, it's a set genre.

Ericc
09/12/08, 03:21 PM
It's not what I fucking consider screamo, I never decided this, it's a set genre.
genres are never set in fact their based on an overall opinion.... so since people are different their views on what is screamo may be slightly different... im sure this kid wont die if he hears Silverstein or circle takes the square... when i type in silverstein on myspace search it says
"SILVERSTEIN... - "WRITING A NEW..." (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofi le&friendid=164071)
Emo / Hardcore / Screamo
Burlington, Ontario"
now i personally am not a fan of this band but i had to show you this as proof that people label music differently.... even this band labeled themselves as screamo.....and oddly enough when you search circle takes the square it says
"circle takes... - "Time and Tide..." (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofi le&friendid=2380795)
Punk / Indie / Progressive
SAVANNAH, GEORGIA"
now if you disagree with this you can take it up with the band cause they wrote that as their genre... so let me break this down for you this isnt a lets one up eachother contest this is a thread made by a kid who just wants bands in that genre.... im sure being suggested some bands that are what some people think of as screamo and getting some bands that you think are screamo wont kill this kid.... stop taking this shit so seriously.... that kid (jacksonhere) has a valid argument and i normally wouldn't even get involved but every time i see this thread it pisses me off that this kid has to take bullshit from you about a subject that is so vague... this kid is right and you need to chill the fuck out...

mattandlater
09/12/08, 05:53 PM
i set my friends on fire

Ericc
09/12/08, 06:53 PM
they're an awesome band the soulja boy cover is soo good = )

myplanforescape
09/12/08, 11:04 PM
genres are never set in fact their based on an overall opinion.... so since people are different their views on what is screamo may be slightly different... im sure this kid wont die if he hears Silverstein or circle takes the square... when i type in silverstein on myspace search it says
"SILVERSTEIN... - "WRITING A NEW..." (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofi le&friendid=164071)
Emo / Hardcore / Screamo
Burlington, Ontario"
now i personally am not a fan of this band but i had to show you this as proof that people label music differently.... even this band labeled themselves as screamo.....and oddly enough when you search circle takes the square it says
"circle takes... - "Time and Tide..." (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofi le&friendid=2380795)
Punk / Indie / Progressive
SAVANNAH, GEORGIA"
now if you disagree with this you can take it up with the band cause they wrote that as their genre... so let me break this down for you this isnt a lets one up eachother contest this is a thread made by a kid who just wants bands in that genre.... im sure being suggested some bands that are what some people think of as screamo and getting some bands that you think are screamo wont kill this kid.... stop taking this shit so seriously.... that kid (jacksonhere) has a valid argument and i normally wouldn't even get involved but every time i see this thread it pisses me off that this kid has to take bullshit from you about a subject that is so vague... this kid is right and you need to chill the fuck out...

I'm sure other people could say it better than I could, but genres can't really be subjective. They are in place so people can find similar music to what they know they like and avoid that which they don't like. Genres are defined by certain musical characteristics, and while a band like Silverstein may be considered screamo its because the people labeling it so don't really know what defines the genre. I'm not saying the guy can't listen to stuff like Atreyu or whatever else he was looking for, but it really is more effective when suggesting bands to know what someone is actually looking for.



As for the OP, check out Anatomy of a Ghost, The Blood Brothers, Bear vs. Shark, The Bled, and maybe I Would Set Myself on Fire for You.

thesafeword
09/12/08, 11:50 PM
genres are never set in fact their based on an overall opinion.... so since people are different their views on what is screamo may be slightly different... im sure this kid wont die if he hears Silverstein or circle takes the square... when i type in silverstein on myspace search it says
"SILVERSTEIN... - "WRITING A NEW..." (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofi le&friendid=164071)
Emo / Hardcore / Screamo
Burlington, Ontario"
now i personally am not a fan of this band but i had to show you this as proof that people label music differently.... even this band labeled themselves as screamo.....and oddly enough when you search circle takes the square it says
"circle takes... - "Time and Tide..." (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofi le&friendid=2380795)
Punk / Indie / Progressive
SAVANNAH, GEORGIA"
now if you disagree with this you can take it up with the band cause they wrote that as their genre... so let me break this down for you this isnt a lets one up eachother contest this is a thread made by a kid who just wants bands in that genre.... im sure being suggested some bands that are what some people think of as screamo and getting some bands that you think are screamo wont kill this kid.... stop taking this shit so seriously.... that kid (jacksonhere) has a valid argument and i normally wouldn't even get involved but every time i see this thread it pisses me off that this kid has to take bullshit from you about a subject that is so vague... this kid is right and you need to chill the fuck out...
Just because a band list themselves as a genre on MySpace doesn't make them right. Your Silverstein example is terrible because they aren't screamo, emo or hardcore.

Ericc
09/13/08, 07:12 AM
Just because a band list themselves as a genre on MySpace doesn't make them right.
Says you...

Your Silverstein example is terrible because they aren't screamo, emo or hardcore.
Once again justtt your opinion....BOTH BANDS TYPED THESE WORDS THEMSELVES AS THEIR GENRES.. So i guess these bands were wrong and you're right


I know you don't like my example and its cause i gave you straight up facts... These bands put that down as their genre this isn't just me pulling this out of my ass.... and no offense but you re response was stupid cause you just backed your statement up with just your "opinion".... No one here is making that big of a deal about kids not knowing what screamo is except you and some other kid who posted one earlier... when we go on a recommendation thread that says give me screamo bands and kids are giving bands that the bands themselves label as their genre idk why you have to harass them over it........ You gave a band who doesn't even label themselves as hardcore or screamo so in reality your the one who in your stupid view can't "back you re belief up" but honestly i wouldn't even have said anything about it if you weren't already on here being a dick to everyone... cause ill still sleep tonight if someone even recomends a punk/indie/progressive band(ctts) on a "i want hardcore and screamo" thread... but it will bother me if that same kid is being a pompous ass to everyone about not knowing what screamo or hardcore is.

Ericc
09/13/08, 07:19 AM
I'm sure other people could say it better than I could, but genres can't really be subjective. They are in place so people can find similar music to what they know they like and avoid that which they don't like. Genres are defined by certain musical characteristics, and while a band like Silverstein may be considered screamo its because the people labeling it so don't really know what defines the genre. I'm not saying the guy can't listen to stuff like Atreyu or whatever else he was looking for, but it really is more effective when suggesting bands to know what someone is actually looking for.



As for the OP, check out Anatomy of a Ghost, The Blood Brothers, Bear vs. Shark, The Bled, and maybe I Would Set Myself on Fire for You.


Ok well this i can accept and disagree with because you weren't a dick about it... my feelings aren't that genres are vastly misunderstood but when you get into branches of rock music (punk, pop punk, indie, hardcore, post hardcore, hardcore, progressive, etc.) they can easily be interpreted differently by people... even as that kid the safeword wrote, he said the circle takes the square was an obvious screamo/hardcore band yet the band themselves label themselves as an indie band not once mentioning hardcore or screamo... so if you live by your view then in your opinion whos wrong then... the safe word or the band ?? cause someone isn't correct if what you feel is true

myplanforescape
09/13/08, 09:48 AM
Ok well this i can accept and disagree with because you weren't a dick about it... my feelings aren't that genres are vastly misunderstood but when you get into branches of rock music (punk, pop punk, indie, hardcore, post hardcore, hardcore, progressive, etc.) they can easily be interpreted differently by people... even as that kid the safeword wrote, he said the circle takes the square was an obvious screamo/hardcore band yet the band themselves label themselves as an indie band not once mentioning hardcore or screamo... so if you live by your view then in your opinion whos wrong then... the safe word or the band ?? cause someone isn't correct if what you feel is true

Well I would call the Emo/Hardcore/Screamo wrong on Silverstein's page. That is what the mainstream public calls them, but I would say that they base it off of a lack of knowledge about what those styles actually are. This probably comes from the fact the a lot of the bands aren't really listener friendly to the average person. I will concede that there is a little leeway when it comes to classifying bands because sometimes bands push the boundaries, but having gone through a period of time where I listened to bands like Silverstein, and now listening to bands like Circle Takes the Square they really are different, and they shouldn't be lumped together for the fact that they both scream.

Ericc
09/13/08, 10:51 AM
Well I would call the Emo/Hardcore/Screamo wrong on Silverstein's page. That is what the mainstream public calls them, but I would say that they base it off of a lack of knowledge about what those styles actually are. This probably comes from the fact the a lot of the bands aren't really listener friendly to the average person. I will concede that there is a little leeway when it comes to classifying bands because sometimes bands push the boundaries, but having gone through a period of time where I listened to bands like Silverstein, and now listening to bands like Circle Takes the Square they really are different, and they shouldn't be lumped together for the fact that they both scream.
well id say the other genres that they re classified under are what seperates them...but either way the point i was making was that whiether its mainstream or its underground.... if theres people who say its screamo whiether they re completely wrong or completely right... im sure the kid who made this thread wont die from hearing bands of mixed results you know?

myplanforescape
09/13/08, 11:48 AM
well id say the other genres that they re classified under are what seperates them...but either way the point i was making was that whiether its mainstream or its underground.... if theres people who say its screamo whiether they re completely wrong or completely right... im sure the kid who made this thread wont die from hearing bands of mixed results you know?

You're right, hearing a good mix of bands is good, it just seems most people tend to outgrow bands like silverstein, whereas a band like Circle Takes the Square has more staying power.

thesafeword
09/13/08, 01:04 PM
Says you...


Once again justtt your opinion....BOTH BANDS TYPED THESE WORDS THEMSELVES AS THEIR GENRES.. So i guess these bands were wrong and you're right


I know you don't like my example and its cause i gave you straight up facts... These bands put that down as their genre this isn't just me pulling this out of my ass.... and no offense but you re response was stupid cause you just backed your statement up with just your "opinion".... No one here is making that big of a deal about kids not knowing what screamo is except you and some other kid who posted one earlier... when we go on a recommendation thread that says give me screamo bands and kids are giving bands that the bands themselves label as their genre idk why you have to harass them over it........ You gave a band who doesn't even label themselves as hardcore or screamo so in reality your the one who in your stupid view can't "back you re belief up" but honestly i wouldn't even have said anything about it if you weren't already on here being a dick to everyone... cause ill still sleep tonight if someone even recomends a punk/indie/progressive band(ctts) on a "i want hardcore and screamo" thread... but it will bother me if that same kid is being a pompous ass to everyone about not knowing what screamo or hardcore is.
CTTS is widely accepted as screamo and Silverstein and almost 99% of the other bands listed on this are not. That's really the end of the story.

Ericc
09/13/08, 07:13 PM
You're right, hearing a good mix of bands is good, it just seems most people tend to outgrow bands like silverstein, whereas a band like Circle Takes the Square has more staying power.
personally my belief is that its cause silverstein is more mainstream now and noone wants to like a band that many other people know about but i hear you man and i get what your saying ... and yeah.. im not even going to bother responding to that kid the safe word... he must be on crack or something cause his responses never pertain to the overall message me and a few others on here have been trying to get across and honestly whats the use in arguing with someone who can't comprehend anything

myplanforescape
09/13/08, 07:29 PM
yeah i hear you i think personally my belief is that its cause silverstein is more mainstream now and noone wants to like a band that many other people know about ... and yeah pshh.. im not even going to bother responding to that kid the safe word... he must be on crack or something cause his responses never pertain to the overall message we re trying to get across and honestly whats the use in arguing with someone who doesn't comprehend anything well. :shrug:

That may be true for some people, but for most I think it has to do with more of a maturing in taste, or even just finding better bands. I feel like bands like Silverstein have an immatureness to them that appeals to the younger crowd but as people grow they don't find the same connection to them. Not to dig on anyone's taste but once you delve into music outside of the scene its hard to go back to those bands.

Ericc
09/13/08, 07:44 PM
That may be true for some people, but for most I think it has to do with more of a maturing in taste, or even just finding better bands. I feel like bands like Silverstein have an immatureness to them that appeals to the younger crowd but as people grow they don't find the same connection to them. Not to dig on anyone's taste but once you delve into music outside of the scene its hard to go back to those bands. yep yep well said

Klatzke
09/13/08, 11:01 PM
That may be true for some people, but for most I think it has to do with more of a maturing in taste, or even just finding better bands. I feel like bands like Silverstein have an immatureness to them that appeals to the younger crowd but as people grow they don't find the same connection to them. Not to dig on anyone's taste but once you delve into music outside of the scene its hard to go back to those bands.
Silverstein is, and always has been, terrible.

thesafeword
09/13/08, 11:25 PM
And have never been screamo. I hate the ignorance of some people, arguing about shit that they don't even know or understand.

Ericc
09/14/08, 06:22 AM
And have never been screamo. I hate the ignorance of some people, arguing about shit that they don't even know or understand.
Lollllllll it's funny you say that cause that's the exact reaction I get when I read your responses

thesafeword
09/14/08, 03:39 PM
But I know what I'm talking about, while you're running around calling Silverstein screamo.

Ericc
09/14/08, 05:50 PM
Once again you fail at reading and understanding what were trying to say...I just pulled their genres up off their myspace sites and said that's why kids are calling them scremo... You obvously don't understand so I'll repeat myself once again genres aren't set In stone as you saw as proof the bands themselves have put down genres that go against your views... So stop strutting around trying to make it seem like you have one up on everyone when it comes to music ...your only good at arguing with your opinion as the basis

thesafeword
09/14/08, 10:12 PM
Go start a thread in music forum asking if Silverstein is screamo and then you can find out. That way you won't just have my opinion.

myplanforescape
09/14/08, 10:41 PM
Silverstein is, and always has been, terrible.

I never said they weren't terrible, I personally find them unbearable to listen to now, but I would be lying if I said there wasn't a time when I listened them and similar bands. I was just running with two examples the guy posted.


And have never been screamo. I hate the ignorance of some people, arguing about shit that they don't even know or understand.

I don't know if this was in reference to me, but I was claiming they weren't screamo.

thesafeword
09/14/08, 11:03 PM
I wasn't talking about you.

Ericc
09/15/08, 08:53 AM
Go start a thread in music forum asking if Silverstein is screamo and then you can find out. That way you won't just have my opinion.im not even going to bother anymore.... that wasnt what i said for the last time i will repeat myself...... i pulled up both bands myspaces that they themselves created...... the genres went aganst your views.... i wasnt saying you were wrong i was saying that this is proof that opinions are different.. the bands opinions of their own music are different then yours....... yet you say genres are set.... so if your view is correct someone must be wrong....... either you are or the the bands are..... i never said silversteins screamo and i never said i was a fan of them or ctts i was only bringing up their myspaces to show you that theres obviously a difference in opinion here with you and the bands..... (not me and you cause i never stated what genre "i think" either of these bands are)........ now if you respond one more time with something like "you think silversteins screamo or ctts is screamo" or anything accussing me of something i never said im not even going to bother responding im not going to sit here and argue with you everyday over something i didnt say.

Self-DefinedEgo
09/15/08, 04:18 PM
"'Envy' are always a good band to listen to. Especially Recommend you to listen to these albums;

. Insominiac Doze
. Abbysal
. A Dead Sinking Story

"Hope that helps!" ^-^

thesafeword
09/16/08, 12:58 PM
im not even going to bother anymore.... that wasnt what i said for the last time i will repeat myself...... i pulled up both bands myspaces that they themselves created...... the genres went aganst your views.... i wasnt saying you were wrong i was saying that this is proof that opinions are different.. the bands opinions of their own music are different then yours....... yet you say genres are set.... so if your view is correct someone must be wrong....... either you are or the the bands are..... i never said silversteins screamo and i never said i was a fan of them or ctts i was only bringing up their myspaces to show you that theres obviously a difference in opinion here with you and the bands..... (not me and you cause i never stated what genre "i think" either of these bands are)........ now if you respond one more time with something like "you think silversteins screamo or ctts is screamo" or anything accussing me of something i never said im not even going to bother responding im not going to sit here and argue with you everyday over something i didnt say.
You can't trust the fucking MySpace pages, for example, Paramore had themselves listed as Regional Mexican for awhile about two years ago.

Ericc
09/16/08, 06:36 PM
You can't trust the fucking MySpace pages, for example, Paramore had themselves listed as Regional Mexican for awhile about two years ago.some bands do it as a joke to avoid contraversy like the kind kids like you cause..... like four year strong has ska ska ska as their 3 genres and they re not

thesafeword
09/16/08, 07:02 PM
And Silverstein has theirs as Emo/Screamo/Harcore and their not.

Ericc
09/16/08, 09:01 PM
And Silverstein has theirs as Emo/Screamo/Harcore and their not.

i highly doubt either band is doing something liek that otherwise they would ve picked genres that were much more far out.... look im really tired of arguing with you over this i say we agree to disagree and move on this is really ridiculous this isnt something that anyone should spend any substantial amount of time arguing over

thesafeword
09/16/08, 09:27 PM
Silverstein is not and will never be emo, screamo or hardcore and any sensible user would agree with me on that.

Klatzke
09/16/08, 09:34 PM
Silverstein is not and will never be emo, screamo or hardcore and any sensible user would agree with me on that.
I'll agree.

But this argument isn't going to end.

thesafeword
09/16/08, 09:41 PM
I know, but I'm right and I can live with that.

Klatzke
09/16/08, 10:14 PM
Yeah, i get what you mean.

I'm truthfully somewhere in the middle on this whole debate. As in.. I realize what the actual genre is, and that the actual definition of it doesn't change. On the other hand though, if someone that I know doesn't know the actual definition says "oh, check out this screamo band" I'm going to think faux-screamo.

However, whenIi talk about them I try to use the right names.

I'd be interested to hear your verdict on this: http://www.myspace.com/therorschachtragedy

thesafeword
09/16/08, 10:16 PM
I'll check it out tomorrow. And I understand what they mean, but then they start claiming that it's real screamo and that's when I correct them.

Klatzke
09/16/08, 10:21 PM
Alright, when you check it out listen to "Led"

frodo22969052
09/18/08, 07:50 AM
Alright, when you check it out listen to "Led"

Hardcore/Southern Rock

imo.

thesafeword
09/18/08, 09:55 PM
I'm not sure on what to classify it as, but I don't think that it's screamo.