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halfpricepizza
11/04/04, 03:25 PM
I'm doing a research paper for a medical ethics class on physician assisted suicide (euthanasia). I'd like to know your thoughts on it. It would count as research. To clarify, there is:
Voluntary Passive Euthanasia - the withdrawing of medical care with full consent of patient (a living will si an example)
Involuntary Passive Euthansia - same as above, but without consent of patient.
Voluntary Active Euthanasia - the administering of death-causing agents to the patient with full consent.
Involuntary Active Euthanasia - same, but w/o consent of patient.
Please discuss. It would be greatly beneficial to me.
_astheruinfalls
11/04/04, 03:42 PM
I'm actually kind of split.
I hate suicide.
But I can also see the other side.
uhcougar182
11/04/04, 04:38 PM
I'm doing a research paper for a medical ethics class on physician assisted suicide (euthanasia). I'd like to know your thoughts on it. It would count as research. To clarify, there is:
Voluntary Passive Euthanasia - the withdrawing of medical care with full consent of patient (a living will si an example)
Involuntary Passive Euthansia - same as above, but without consent of patient.
Voluntary Active Euthanasia - the administering of death-causing agents to the patient with full consent.
Involuntary Active Euthanasia - same, but w/o consent of patient.
Please discuss. It would be greatly beneficial to me.
The only type I could even remotely agree with would be Voluntary Passive Euthanasia. If the patient is in extreme discomfort and has already been diagnosed terminally ill, and if they give full consent, then it really should be up to them. It is their life and if voluntary passive euthanasia makes meeting death easier for them, it should be their choice. Either of the Active methods seem more like murder to me than anything else.
BrandNew20
11/04/04, 05:05 PM
its really hard for me to say, because I'm not in the situation.
venus/bacchus
11/04/04, 05:38 PM
I believe you have the right to end your life at any point. That right, however, can't be passed on to anyone else. That leads to a lot of different moral implication and serious problems. It's best to keep people out of it. You have every right to deny medical procedures, but any sort of active euthenasia should be outlawed. If you want to end your life that bad, take it yourself, leave everyone else out of it.
_astheruinfalls
11/04/04, 05:41 PM
I believe you have the right to end your life at any point. That right, however, can't be passed on to anyone else. That leads to a lot of different moral implication and serious problems. It's best to keep people out of it. You have every right to deny medical procedures, but any sort of active euthenasia should be outlawed. If you want to end your life that bad, take it yourself, leave everyone else out of it.
I can see exactly where you are coming from.
venus/bacchus
11/04/04, 06:25 PM
P.s. Im not trying to change the subject of the thread into abortion, I just stating a point.
haha, that stipulation has to be put on almost every thread these days
cal1082
11/04/04, 08:56 PM
i dont like the idea of either active ones.
turtlefootrx
11/05/04, 12:46 AM
jack kevorkians lawyer tried to run for governer here once. part of is agenda would have been to make it legal in this state. but he got shot down horribly.
_astheruinfalls
11/05/04, 04:40 AM
You can't support abortion and not this, although if you want to die that is your choice.
Don't even fucking start it.
There's been this abortion thread so many times that you should know that pro-choice doesn't see a mass of cells as a baby.
Discussion over.
SkaBum14
11/05/04, 05:58 AM
The only one I could agree with would be voluntary passive euthanasia. Even with that, I'm still not completely sure about how I feel. Normally I wouldn't agree with "suicide" of any form, but there are many examples that come up that are hard to ignore. For example, if someone is already terminal and is in extreme pain, is it really better to continue sustaining their life just because we can, even though it's causing pain to the person to be alive? Another example is someone who is brain dead, is in a permanent vegetative state, has no chance of ever recovering and is only kept alive through medical intervention. Their brain is dead and their body cannot sustain itself on its own, so would withdrawing treatment really be assisted suicide, or just letting someone die, which would happen otherwise if it weren't for the medical intervention.
There's a lot of issues that are brought up about the definitions of certain concepts, such as the definition of persons or death. For instance, when is someone actually dead? Does their entire body have to be dead, their entire brain, or just the part of their brain that controls conscious thought? There's so many gray areas. It makes it even harder to make the decisions if someone is brain dead, but their body is still kept alive and they did not leave a living will. So, the family or doctors have no clue what their wishes would have been so there are problems there.
There are so many different areas you could go into with this. I can't even remember all of them.
Monkey_vs_Robot
11/06/04, 11:15 PM
I'm actually kind of split.
I hate suicide.
But I can also see the other side.
I feel the same. I actually have been in that situation once tho and in some cases I belive it to be reasonable.
LadyofSorrows
11/08/04, 04:17 AM
I'm doing a research paper for a medical ethics class on physician assisted suicide (euthanasia). I'd like to know your thoughts on it. It would count as research. To clarify, there is:
Voluntary Passive Euthanasia - the withdrawing of medical care with full consent of patient (a living will si an example)
Involuntary Passive Euthansia - same as above, but without consent of patient.
Voluntary Active Euthanasia - the administering of death-causing agents to the patient with full consent.
Involuntary Active Euthanasia - same, but w/o consent of patient.
Please discuss. It would be greatly beneficial to me.
I think that, if the patient is in a state of constant pain etc., and is in a thinking and capable state of mind, he should be able to decide how and when his life will end.
My grandmother has always said that if she is at the point where she is in pain, can't move, think, breathe or eat w/out assistance, she wants us to "pull the plug". I would do that for her without a second thought. It's something she has requested for many many years. It's always a sad thing, and to some, a religious thing, but in the end, could you live with yourself making someone live the rest of their life in pain, or without thought, or unable to move or whatever the case may be., when they dont want to? I couldnt.
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