Pitchfork Gives "Exile In Guyville" - Liz Phair a 9.6!

[Kid B]

Are you fucking kidding me? (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/51441-liz-phair-exile-in-guyville-15th-anniversary)

[shit stroll]

who cares?

[downtotheriver]

Pitchfork is lame.

This is a publication that endorses Lil Wayne and not the Mars Volta, can you really take these reviews seriously?

[shit stroll]

:-0

[Yes. And?]

And? It's a great fucking album.

[Dr. Acula]

Must....turn....off.....John....Mcc ain

[Kid B]

http://webpages.atlanticbb.net/%7Eecroyle/new/lizphair.jpg
Lol I would delete that if I were you!

[Yes. And?]

Must....turn....off.....John....Mcc ain
He's :yawn:

[Kid B]

And? It's a great fucking album.
Sure it is, but there are groundbreakingly amazing albums that get 6-8. 9.6 is fucking huge for PF.

[Getup and Dance]

People take pitchfork seriously?

[Kid B]

No - This thread is an example of why.

[Dr. Acula]

Mccain is such an amazing douchebag.

[Yes. And?]

Sure it is, but there are groundbreakingly amazing albums that get 6-8. 9.6 is fucking huge for PF.
Such as...

[Dr. Acula]

Palin can suck my balls too.

[chipdip18]

I can see that lady's nipples.

[Yes. And?]

Palin can suck my balls too.
You'd probably have better luck with her daughter.

[Dr. Acula]

hahaha.

[downtotheriver]

People take pitchfork seriously?

Apparently they do...

[Yes. And?]

What's your favorite review site, guy?

[Getup and Dance]

Why dont we make a thread about every pitchfork review and make fun of it.


Seriously this didnt need its own thread.

[downtotheriver]

What's your favorite review site, guy?

Plugged In, what else?

[chipdip18]

You'd probably have better luck with her daughter.


ZING!

i liked it.

[Dr. Acula]

I love that inbetween everything Mccain says...everyone has to start chanting *U.S.A. U.S.A. U.S.A.!*...like they are god damn Hacksaw Jim Duggan.

[shit stroll]

Mccain is such an amazing douchebag.
:-d don't say that in columbus.

[Yes. And?]

Plugged In, what else?
I meant the OP, but okay.

I just checked out this Plugged In site. I hope you're kidding.
I love that inbetween everything Mccain says...everyone has to start chanting *U.S.A. U.S.A. U.S.A.!*...like they are god damn Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
Nothing beats yesterday's "DRILL, BABY, DRILL!"

[downtotheriver]

I meant the OP, but okay.

I just checked out this Plugged In site. I hope you're kidding.



Yes, I am kidding.

[Yes. And?]

Yes, I am kidding.
Good, good. I see you like t3h Christian bandz, so I wasn't sure.

If I'm being too much of a jerk, let me know.

[Dr. Acula]

:-d don't say that in columbus.

Yeah. no shit. That could be trouble almost anywhere in the south.

[Dr. Acula]

OH GOD. Here it comes. In case any of you didnt know, John Mccain was a POW.

[chipdip18]

Palin is kinda attractive. I'd rail that.

[Dr. Acula]

She's pretty well put together for having 5 kids but she's still a complete cunt. Anti abortion when it comes to rape and incest? Awesome.

[Yes. And?]

OH GOD. Here it comes. In case any of you didnt know, John Mccain was a POW.
Didn't he graduate in the bottom ranks of his military school that he only got into because of Daddy? Didn't he crash, like...4 other planes before getting shot down in 'Nam? Correct me if I'm wrong...:shrug:

[chipdip18]

She's pretty well put together for having 5 kids but she's still a complete cunt. Anti abortion when it comes to rape and incest? Awesome.

I know, she has terrible ideas. But i'd hit that, get her pregnant, and laugh.

[Dr. Acula]

Didn't he graduate in the bottom ranks of his military school that he only got into because of Daddy? Didn't he crash, like...4 other planes before getting shot down in 'Nam? Correct me if I'm wrong...:shrug:

Truth. Daddy was a 4 Star General.

As for the second part, I hadnt heard that.

[chipdip18]

Didn't he graduate in the bottom ranks of his military school that he only got into because of Daddy? Didn't he crash, like...4 other planes before getting shot down in 'Nam? Correct me if I'm wrong...:shrug:


Stuff like this is really hard for me to believe, on either side. Politics are too much about bashing and winning and not enough about solving.

[Dr. Acula]

He finished in the bottom 1% of his class. Helps when your old man is a 4 Star General but this is nothing new in politics. Look at the asshole in office now.

[Dr. Acula]

Stuff like this is really hard for me to believe, on either side. Politics are too much about bashing and winning and not enough about solving.

You can read around. Graduated in the bottom 1% of his class. Truth.

[Yes. And?]

Truth. Daddy was a 4 Star General.

As for the second part, I hadnt heard that.
I don't know, I've been hearing that around.

[chipdip18]

You can read around. Graduated in the bottom 1% of his class. Truth.

I wish i cared, cause now i'm really just a part of the problem. I want some honesty, i want the good guy to run for President. Someone like Lance Armstrong or Michael Jordan. Or my Dad.

[Dr. Acula]

I cant believe I just watched that

[Kid B]

What's your favorite review site, guy?
The only one I really read is Metacritic, and that has a ton of crappy reviews.

As for your such as post,
Our Endless Numbered Days
Boxer
Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place
For Emma, Forever Ago

all got less than nine.

[Yes. And?]

I like The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place, but there's nothing groundbreaking or amazing about it. Post-rock doesn't really float my boat, though.

[micahistheballs]

Plugged In is the funniest site on the internet.

[Kid B]

I like The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place, but there's nothing groundbreaking or amazing about it. Post-rock doesn't really float my boat, though.
Eh, It either clicks or it doesn't :shrug:
I agree that Exile was a great album, but post Exile Liz Phair (why can't I breath whenever I think about ?) - ughhh

[Yes. And?]

Eh, It either clicks or it doesn't :shrug:
I agree that Exile was a great album, but post Exile Liz Phair (why can't I breath whenever I think about ?) - ughhh
It clicks...once in a while, when I'm in a sleepy mood.
True, true. She sucks hardcore now.

Still, Exile In Guyville >>> The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place.

[IWasaCamera]

Way too high. Then again, Pitchfork loves Animal Collective.

[El_Jeffe]

hahaha erick's run down of today’s american politics made this thread for me

i don't care much for pitchfork, especially when they have a crack at reviewing the odd world music album to show "diversity" haha. so one of many dodgy reviews isn't much bother to me

[llwilliamsll]

The only good thing they do is bring a festival to Chicago.

[downtotheriver]

Good, good. I see you like t3h Christian bandz, so I wasn't sure.

If I'm being too much of a jerk, let me know.

I see that my currently listening includes the Mars Volta, Bright Eyes, Radiohead, Brand New - all outwardly Christian artists right?

[kearn1tm]

People take pitchfork seriously?

Depending on the reviewer and how closely their opinions/taste mirrors my own and they do, in fact, promote many good bands I'd otherwise miss if not for their editorials and reviews.

Honestly, this whole "I'm so cool, Pitchfork is for fucks" sentiment is odd. I could understand not necessarily being a fan of the site, but I'm consistently shocked by the vitriol slung at the blog. Sure, it's a site that conveys an esoteric sense of pretentiousness, and some of their reviews are rather laughable, but it's not entirely devoid of substance and usually provides some very entertaining reading.

[kearn1tm]

Oh, and Exile in Guyville is a good album that doesn't hold up as well and suffers in contemporary listens due to the fact that a low-fi "girl and her guitar" album with the lyrics predominantly comprised of candid depictions of Phair's rather candid desire for sex and the woes of her shitty taste in men being far from the edgy lyrical fodder it was in '92.

Regardless, a good album that isn't quite great, but certainly an enjoyable, genuine and somewhat depraved LP.

[Burning Star IV]

Who cares?

[Yes. And?]

I see that my currently listening includes the Mars Volta, Bright Eyes, Radiohead, Brand New - all outwardly Christian artists right?
I was kidding. =|

[Kid B]

Shit Dr. Acula got banned!

[make_this_hurt]

Exile in Guyville > 90% of the music posted in this forum.

[drudo182]

Pitchfork is seriously one of the worst opinions to turn to in terms of musical references. Horrible, horrible writing. I hate them.

[kearn1tm]

Pitchfork is seriously one of the worst opinions to turn to in terms of musical references. Horrible, horrible writing. I hate them.

So then, in all seriousness, which music enthusiast site or periodical do you find to be consistently better?

[Yes. And?]

Exile in Guyville > 90% of the music posted in this forum.
Or yours. Posting here just to talk shit on music forum, that's wonderful.
Shit Dr. Acula got banned!
WHY??

[alice+interiors]

Shit Dr. Acula got banned!
Hasn't he just removed his avatar?

[shit stroll]

n00dz

[Yes. And?]

What n00dz...

[Smash Adams]

I'd give her a 9.6 if you catch my drift

[Jumpoff]

Depending on the reviewer and how closely their opinions/taste mirrors my own and they do, in fact, promote many good bands I'd otherwise miss if not for their editorials and reviews.

Honestly, this whole "I'm so cool, Pitchfork is for fucks" sentiment is odd. I could understand not necessarily being a fan of the site, but I'm consistently shocked by the vitriol slung at the blog. Sure, it's a site that conveys an esoteric sense of pretentiousness, and some of their reviews are rather laughable, but it's not entirely devoid of substance and usually provides some very entertaining reading.

I do agree... I mean, who do somewhat hate everyone who happens to review a Mars Volta album on there, but I have found some great bands by just looking at their older reviews/their wiki page with the list of albums they gave over 9.0...

[Jumpoff]

I always assumed that "Emergency and I" got a 10 also. Guess not :shrug:

[x togepi x]

the only thing i don't like about pitchfork is the rating number seems kind of arbitrary at times, like you'll see an album that's being praised fairly heavily by the reviewer and at the end it will say something like 5.0 of 10. but the reason everyone here hates on it is because most people's favorite albums would be lucky to get over 5 on pitchfork.

[x togepi x]

that's the main reason i stopped checking that site everyday. if they dropped the number scheme, i'd probably feel a lot better about it.

[Smash Adams]

I never checked it for news but I ocassionally read reviews if I'm bored

weird, I pretty much go straight to forkcast and news and if there's a review of something I want to buy I'll read it

[Kid B]

Yeah, they remove your avatar when you get banned. He got banned for the nude post he made in this very thread. Mhmm.

[Yes. And?]

What wuss reported him? Unless staff was actually in this forum/thread at some point. Still...weak. She's not even naked. :rolleyes:

[Jumpoff]

I remember Bob had the anal fisting picture he posted... I dont think he got banned for that even, haha.

[x togepi x]

in the thread that chris fallon was posting in, no less. what a daredevil bob is

[Kid B]

:-d

[shit stroll]

pretty sure kid b reported him.

[Kid B]

Ouch... no trust in kid b?

[Jumpoff]

Kid B did it.

[Kid B]

You guys are mean mean mean

[shit stroll]

yup, he is guilty.

[Yes. And?]

More like Kid E-vil.

[micahistheballs]

Pitchfork is the law.

[Kid B]

:bluesad:

[Genuma]

Eric is banned right?

[shit stroll]

yeah kid b is a narc.

[Genuma]

narczi.

[Kid B]

Argggh!

[Genuma]

Kid Nazi

[Kid B]

Glad the Caper Raper phase is over. Yes I realize you will counter this with calling me Caper Raper.

[Genuma]

Baker faker caper raper newer jewer.

[shit stroll]

kid narczi > caper raper.

[IWasaCamera]

Exile in Guyville > 90% of the music posted in this forum.
Not saying much.
Pitchfork is seriously one of the worst opinions to turn to in terms of musical references. Horrible, horrible writing. I hate them.
The best being?
the only thing i don't like about pitchfork is the rating number seems kind of arbitrary at times, like you'll see an album that's being praised fairly heavily by the reviewer and at the end it will say something like 5.0 of 10. but the reason everyone here hates on it is because most people's favorite albums would be lucky to get over 5 on pitchfork.
While I usually enjoy their reviews and check back almost daily, I don't even bother with the scores. Only thing they're good for is getting hipster-hating APers to make Fleet Foxes threads.

[Getup and Dance]

Hiphopdx.com > Pitchfork Media

[x togepi x]

While I usually enjoy their reviews and check back almost daily, I don't even bother with the scores. Only thing they're good for is getting hipster-hating APers to make Fleet Foxes threads.

the reason the scores bother me so much is that i feel like they aren't at all connected to the review, as if the reviewer liked or disliked the album more than they were supposed to so they decided to tack on the "right score" at the end. i was also not a fan of how the Best New Music scores are based basically on the score. I mean, is an 8.6 album really that much more amazing than an 8.4?

but it is funny to see people get all up in arms about pitchfork hating on things they like.

[IWasaCamera]

the reason the scores bother me so much is that i feel like they aren't at all connected to the review, as if the reviewer liked or disliked the album more than they were supposed to so they decided to tack on the "right score" at the end. i was also not a fan of how the Best New Music scores are based basically on the score. I mean, is an 8.6 album really that much more amazing than an 8.4?
The ratings do seem entirely separate from the reviews at times, almost as if to fulfill a certain mandate which is unfortunate. They'd be better off scrapping the entire notion of scores and relying solely on the writing to convey their views. Shame it won't happen because of site traffic.

As for the best new music section, I suppose they need a clearly defined cutoff mark.

[x togepi x]

The ratings do seem entirely separate from the reviews at times, almost as if to fulfill a certain mandate which is unfortunate. They'd be better off scrapping the entire notion of scores and relying solely on the writing to convey their views. Shame it won't happen because of site traffic.

As for the best new music section, I suppose they need a clearly defined cutoff mark.

i wish they'd get rid of it too but it'd definitely get rid of all the people who just look at the score and go away.

i think the cut off for best new music should be 8, 8 seems like a better cut off than 8.6

[IWasaCamera]

i wish they'd get rid of it too but it'd definitely get rid of all the people who just look at the score and go away.

i think the cut off for best new music should be 8, 8 seems like a better cut off than 8.6
Yep. Sad fact is scores mean more to the readers than content.

8 and up would likely include too many releases. This is all speculation on my part but I'm guessing they want "best new music" status to be fairly difficult to attain.

[Klatzke]

OH GOD. Here it comes. In case any of you didnt know, John Mccain was a POW.
He was in the army? I didn't know they drafted minorities back then.

[Yes. And?]

He was in the army? I didn't know they drafted minorities back then.
what

[Klatzke]

what
ha, nothing.

[fake empire]

Fuck this thread. This is one of the best albums ever.

[CallMeTroy]

Fuck this thread. This is one of the best albums ever.

I posted in another thread yesterday about how Liz Phair is terrible, but I quite enjoyed this album. 90's Liz Phair was pretty solid.

[boomerangslang]

This is the best album.

[thesafeword]

pitchfork is stupid. fuck hipsters.

[fake empire]

pitchfork is stupid. fuck hipsters.
Fuck you.

[eightsailor]

She's hot.