Best Lyricist

[TheZeroKid]

These are my favorite lyricists, so out of mine or your own, who writes the words that hit you the hardest in terms of sheer brilliance?

[Brandon Allin]

I cannot chose between Jesse, Dustin, and Tomas.

[TheZeroKid]

Right?! I had a extremely hard time choosing almost to the point that I almost didn't make the poll, but I gave it to Dustin simply because all the sonnets at the end of each Alchemy Index wowed me to the point of awe.

[THEAlkalineTrio]

i was just shocked to see Tomas Kalnoky on the ballot...i feel like streetlight/and all of his other projects don't get enough publicity on this site. Though I gotta say, Dustin is a verrry close 2nd.

[tomgreen680]

Casey hands down. Read the lyrics on BTHATS.

[handlikesecret]

Bob Dylan.

[loganmmm]

Bob Dylan.

[SkateFirm21]

Aaron Weiss (mewithoutYou)

[mycuban]

Tim Kasher Is God!

[TheZeroKid]

Casey hands down. Read the lyrics on BTHATS.

I have BTHATS, it's probably my favorite album of all time and I have personally met Casey Crescenzo. He is absolutely AMAZING both in lyrics and musicianship. If I had to pick my top three, it'd be Dustin, Casey, and Tomas.

[jbaseball44]

Bob Dylan

[Goat01]

Tomas doesn't get the credit he deserves, he writes great lyrics.

[Jake's got woe]

Bob Dylan

[Oddpac87]

How was Aaron Weiss not an option?!?

[sasalukac]

Aaron Weiss (mewithoutYou)

yes

[Radiology]

Thom Yorke, Conor Oberst, and Sam Beam are my choices that arn't listed

but on that list I chose Lacey... though Gibbard is the better musician of the bunch Jesse's got quite a knack for writing clever lyrics

[ihatecayte]

gibbard gets no love, apparently, but he's easily one of my very favorites.
lacey, too. but he definitely does get the credit. ha.

[Neo Cassady]

Close call between Kensrue and Gibbard. I went with Gibbard.

[adam289]

Bob Dylan.

[ForeverDelayed]

Definitely "other." Elvis Costello and Paul Westerberg, out of the ones that haven't already been mentioned.

[anamericangod]

Gibbard.

[lesliebrand]

J. Lacey all the way.

but Andy Hull of Manchester Orchestra needs some credit too.

[markbroadway]

jesse lacey & ben gibbard ftw

[TheZeroKid]

Damn...I really didn't expect Jesse to dominate as much as he is right now, but I guess that was naive of me to think, considering it's AP!

[scmaley]

Pete Wentz........ duh.

jk

[Oddpac87 = Lame]

YeAAhhhh!!!!!!

[just.Starla.]

Conor Oberst. but out of the choices, Ben Gibbard

[allhourcymbals]

Definitely other, but from the ones in the poll, Ben Gibbard.

[alann]

Josh Ritter

[The Personist]

Bob Dylan is great, but..

Elliott Smith is not listed; he deserves so much love for his lyrics.

[LouderThanBombs]

Bob Dylan.

[screamoutmyname]

Pete Wentz........ duh.

jk

obvi

[midtown4657]

Jakob Dylan. Seriously. along with Springsteen, Roger Clyne, Ryan Adams and Adam Duritz. and quite several others. and Devon Williams from Osker.

[scmaley]

obvihttp://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/wicked7676/pigtails.jpg

[screamoutmyname]

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/wicked7676/pigtails.jpg

haahahahahahahahahahahahaha :appl:

[Thomas Balkcom]

Aaron Weiss (mewithoutYou)

How was Aaron Weiss not an option?!?

yes

agreed

[jster2000]

there are plenty who aren't on this list
but of this list
jesse
the first half of TDAGARIM
is chilling lyrically

[Yagami]

Out of the ones listed, I had a hard time picking between Kensrue and Gibbard.

Do not see why anyone would pick Anthony Green?

[SeanEBoy2686]

whenever these polls has 'other' that should always be the most chosen. as a bunch of people said Bob Dylan blows these guys out of the water. Out of the choices though I go with Jesse Lacey, but def. not a bad set of choices by any means

[BigAl]

Max Bemis, obviously.

[xrawrritsalex]

um. how is andrew mcmahon not an option either? :P

[MichaelP]

ummmmmm.............what about ANDY HULL

[cason eat world]

Dustin no contest, I love Jesse's lyrics but he doesn't come close to Dustin. I agree Weiss should have definitely been on this list.

[Crowan]

Bob Dylan is a deep.

[ItsJustAVirus]

streetlights good and all but matt skiba, and dan andriano are the best. no doubt about it

[RawkStar]

That was a tough one...
between Dustin Kensrue [Thrice]
and Tomas Kalnoky [Streetlight Manifesto].

They can both sing their asses off and have
kick ass lyrics...but Dustin just has that effect..
you know??

...*Duces \/

[cassusriff]

Went with Kensrue, though a case could be made for any one of them. Kensrue is my favorite because of the type of lyrics he writes.

[aradiantsunrise]

Dustin Kensrue by far.

[smelltheglove]

you dumb kids, clearly Greg Graffin is the best lyricist listed on the poll. Have any of you even heard of Bad Religion? here's a hint, they've been around for about 30 years, single handedly revived the punk scene in the mid 80's and defined the most popular sound of punk for the 90's (ie. the "forbidden beat", they influenced the explosion of "skate punk" bands in the 90's like Nofx, NUFAN, Lagwagon, Pennywise, etc.). They have 14 albums, maybe you should give one of them a listen, I'd suggest starting with "The Empire Strikes First" or "Stranger Than Fiction" or "Suffer".

[The Personist]

you dumb kids, clearly Greg Graffin is the best lyricist listed on the poll. Have any of you even heard of Bad Religion? here's a hint, they've been around for about 30 years, single handedly revived the punk scene in the mid 80's and defined the most popular sound of punk for the 90's (ie. the "forbidden beat", they influenced the explosion of "skate punk" bands in the 90's like Nofx, NUFAN, Lagwagon, Pennywise, etc.). They have 14 albums, maybe you should give one of them a listen, I'd suggest starting with "The Empire Strikes First" or "Stranger Than Fiction" or "Suffer".

Yes, I've heard of Bad Religion. In fact, I really LIKE Bad Religion. I still think Jesse Lacey and Dustin Kensrue are better lyricists than Graffin. He's good, but he's not great.

[Deadbolt01]

Dustin over Jesse and Anthony by a whisker.

[Deadbolt01]

The 'other' option makes a mockery of this poll.

[SoCoSquid4]

other.

Chris Carrabba.

[Cuddleworthy]

isaac brock, maybe

[IceAge/HeatWave]

bob dylan; lennon/mccartney; neil young

but oout of these guys, ben gibbard all the way. his lyrics flow and pack more in them than anyone i've ever heard

[RetardedInLove]

I don't understand how Greg Graffin received so few votes, the man is a genius.

[phil19]

you dumb kids, clearly Greg Graffin is the best lyricist listed on the poll. Have any of you even heard of Bad Religion? here's a hint, they've been around for about 30 years, single handedly revived the punk scene in the mid 80's and defined the most popular sound of punk for the 90's (ie. the "forbidden beat", they influenced the explosion of "skate punk" bands in the 90's like Nofx, NUFAN, Lagwagon, Pennywise, etc.). They have 14 albums, maybe you should give one of them a listen, I'd suggest starting with "The Empire Strikes First" or "Stranger Than Fiction" or "Suffer".

i didnt even see greg graffin on the list. im too tired haha
he is great though. the vocab in all bad religion songs make them what they are. but surely youd have to put brett gurewitz up there with him??

[map8705]

Bob Dylan

[map8705]

Jakob Dylan. Seriously. along with Springsteen, Roger Clyne, Ryan Adams and Adam Duritz. and quite several others. and Devon Williams from Osker.

Yes another Jakob Dylan Lover! He's my second favorite though, right behind his father.

[smelltheglove]

Yes, I've heard of Bad Religion. In fact, I really LIKE Bad Religion. I still think Jesse Lacey and Dustin Kensrue are better lyricists than Graffin. He's good, but he's not great.


oh ok, I'd like you to point me to one Thrice song with lyrics this impressive. This song compares the inevitable human extinction to that of the dinosaurs, an extinction that will be brought on by our reckless ambition as a species. i'm not saying Thrice doesn't have some outstanding lyrics ("stare at the sun", "see you in the shallows", most of "the illusion of safety". And yea, most of Deja Enendu is loaded with impressive lyrics but the vocabulary and poetic knowledge of Dr. Greg Graffin is somethig to behold.

"Beyond Electric Dreams"

Here we go now

No one here can show you where it is but I can point to a sign
On the roof of the world without apparent design
The frozen definition of a lunatic ambition to rise
The air is thin, the future dim, dimension hard to find

Up on a mountain encased in solar rays
Beyond electric dreams of inarticulate passion plays
Coming down a mountain, eons have a human ring
The conversation of impassive planets
Intercepted by a human being

Ratioclination is a practicable way to derive
An attitude of altitude and probity by which to abide
Or maybe of the a theophany of flaming creosote in disguise
The air is thin, the future dim, dimension undefined

Up on a mountain encased in solar rays
Beyond electric dreams of inarticulate passion plays
Coming down a mountain, eons have a human ring
The conversation of impassive planets
Intercepted by a human being

Here glaring cold in the crystalline geometry of night,
Obscuring form and tracing faceless fears
Of a suprahuman immensity in a patch of sand
Or a raptors guileless shivering intensity,
I'm only a visitor,
And atom of atoms on a jutting red splattered synagogue of granite
As it crouches literally in space,
A frozen amoral giant gazing heavenward forever

Let's go where the raptor goes to the mountain in a cosmic glow
We'll have a genuine terrestrial show on a mountain - on a mountain
Let's scan the horizon clean for any trace of human schemes
And try to touch upon immortal themes on a mountain - on a mountain

[UKBoss44]

Aaron Weiss hands down...

[alaskan]

Bg>jl

[foisol]

Jesse Lacey. He writes memorable lyrics.

[mikeyystyles]

Actually.. I saw that someone posted it as a joke.. but Pete Wentz does deserve credit as a great lyricist. You can't say that TTTYG was a great album just based on the music. He wrote a lot of great lines in there that mean a lot to people. Part being a great lyricist is being able to connect to people. He def. did on that album.

[Rob Hrx]

Tim Kasher, Max Bemis, Shawn Harris... not necessarily the best, but at least deserve a mention

[LongDistanceDrunk]

Issac Brock(Modest Mouse), Geoff Rickley Tim Kasher, Conor Oberst and Andy Hull deserve a mention. I pciked Dustin Kensrue because of his solo album.

[showyourteeth]

conor oberst, aaron weiss, jerry jones....
these are all much better choices

[clndstnqueen]

jesse lacey, mostly because i cannot believe how accurately he expresses feelings that dont have words, case in point guernica

[seventy.times7]

Jesse Lacey writes my favourite ever lyrics, so he gets my vote, Ben Gibbard comes a close second, however I dont listes to Bad Religion much, and I have never heard The Dear Hunter, so its not really a fair evaluation.

ANother great lyricist is Kevin Devine

[estrella starr]

i love brand new, but i went with ben gibbard here. dcfc lyrics stay with me.

but id chose sam beam, adam duritz, and a few others that have been named in this thread over ben, i think.

[tellmycaster]

Jesse Lacey is a terrible lyricist

[mattTLTT]

jesse lacey, but conor oberst is an awesome lyricist too.

[yufli]

I kinda like how Tomas is on this list out of all those bands.

I was tied between Jesse, Dustin and Tomas but I went with Jesse. Listen to songs like "A Moment of Silence" and Tomas is pretty much tied for first.

[hf57]

other: william fitzsimmons

[marchofmarty]

Jacob Bannon of Converge.

[Someone'sCoat]

Please see:
Sam Beam

[Someone'sCoat]

Jeez you are honestly telling me that out of anyone that has ever written music, most people who voted think Jesse Lacey is the best? I really did htink the BN phase was dying down. I was terribly wrong.

[c-reg]

keith buckley...every time i die

[Keagan Ilvonen]

Gibbard

[andrewa5]

Craig Owens.

[Milk_It]

Seriously? Greg Graffin is only 3.74%?!?

[alcoholandirony]

John K. Samson

/thread

[Scott Farcas]

Matt Skiba, Chris Conley and of course Brendan Kelly

[J Me]

of course

[allthruwinter]

For me it's a tie between Lacey and Gibbard. Lacey thinks of things to say that I could never articulate, or most people, but Gibbard is the king of writing songs about broken hearts.

[hellogorgeous]

i love chris walla and ben gibbard. i choose lacey though.

[hellogorgeous]

For me it's a tie between Lacey and Gibbard. Lacey thinks of things to say that I could never articulate, or most people, but Gibbard is the king of writing songs about broken hearts.


we are the same person?

[genericmadness]

Casey hands down. Read the lyrics on BTHATS.

Casey's a good lyricist, but he wrote less than half the lyrics on that album. I would say the Dear Hunter is the best way to gauge his ability.

My vote goes for Aaron Weiss, absolutely

[moore182]

Stephen Christian - Anberlin

[briewer]

Tomas is last? Really?

[Mens]

Jesse Lacey is a no brainer. But up there with him I would say is Dustin Kensrue

[Goingdown11]

Ben Gibbard...no question

[ballardr]

Shaant

[theguy77]

jesse lacey and ben gibbard have quite different styles but they're about tied for me on this list.

but, if it was an open response poll, my answer is sam beam no question. followed by conor oberst and bob dylan.

[FayeQC]

jesse lacey and ben gibbard have quite different styles but they're about tied for me on this list.

but, if it was an open response poll, my answer is sam beam no question. followed by conor oberst and bob dylan.

Didn't even think of them, too tired to even contemplate "other" :-(

So I'm just going to pretend that is not an option, in which case, Jesse Lacey!

[carsancalor1es]

Aaron Weiss (mewithoutYou)

YES.

[BalancingacT]

Bob Dylan / Conor Oberst

[BalancingacT]

Tomas is last? Really?
This is just as much a band popularity poll as it is a best lyricist poll...

[Brandon Allin]

Tomas is last? Really?
I don't think that is a knock on his lyricism at all. He's simply losing because his band is less popular than those listed.

[TheZeroKid]

This is just as much a band popularity poll as it is a best lyricist poll...

Unfortunatly...I kinda wanted people to pay attention to their skills with words. I love Jesse Lacey and I think he's an incredible lyricist, but I'm pretty sure most of the people who responded, as soon as they saw "Jesse Lacey (Brand New)" immediatly went to vote for it.

Lacey should just run for president.

[LuckyBear]

OTHER! MAX BEMIS from Say Anything!

[honkyg88]

I voted Buddy Nielsen.

[jay_klinkhammer]

Max or Aaron Weiss

[Protested Hero]

Jesse Lacey is good, but not Dustin good.

[triangle23]

George Harrison

[Alex DiVincenzo]

Of the list, I'd probably say Jesse, but Max Bemis deserves to be listed. I wouldn't call him the best lyricist ever, but he's my favorite in the vain of those listed.

[Ravenna]

Dk

[ForeverDelayed]

George Harrison
I wouldn't say he was the best, but I definitely love his lyrics, and he's way better than most of the guys listed in this poll. I started a thread about him in the music forum that got pretty much no love. One of my favorite solo artists, glad to see someone else appreciates him.

[katekate]

As much as I love Jesse, I think Ben's the best out of that bunch

[himynameisbrett]

chris conley....? max bemis....?

[sumcorporate911]

bob dylan and ace enders shoulda been on there before most of those dudes

[Sic Transit Zeb]

I'm surprised there isn't any Conor Oberst on here...but I'd go with Lacey anyways

[Sandie-Jenkins]

Bob Dylan.

hell yeah! i was bein' lazy and asked my sister what she thought and she said anthony green but i went bob dylan.

[the_topher]

conor oberst?? yes?? yes.

[bobby runs]

kenneth vasoli

[WhitestKidUKnow]

oberst

[CantSlowDown7]

Chris Conley?

[KyleMcr]

Ben Gibbard for sure

[WhitestKidUKnow]

my friend and i were actually arguing the other day over who the better lyricist is, oberst or bemis. i mean, i think its oberst, no question

[jaguarlove]

Geoff Rickly

[THE_SICKEST]

geoff rickley

[kelst91]

No Conor Oberst?

[iKrazie]

Anthony Green, but dustin kensrue is right in there with him, this should have been a multipoll lol

[Sic Transit Zeb]

Damn...I really didn't expect Jesse to dominate as much as he is right now, but I guess that was naive of me to think, considering it's AP!

maybe he's dominating because most people prefer his lyrics......cuz they're good.

[Sic Transit Zeb]

Anthony Green, but dustin kensrue is right in there with him, this should have been a multipoll lol

I don't think Anthony Green's lyrics are all at that impressive. Sometimes they don't make any sense, idk just my opinion.

[Kid B]

Dylan

[TheZeroKid]

maybe he's dominating because most people prefer his lyrics......cuz they're good.

I know he's good, that's why I put him in the poll.

[Someone'sCoat]

maybe he's dominating because most people prefer his lyrics......cuz they're good.

I don't think Anthony Green's lyrics are all at that impressive. Sometimes they don't make any sense, idk just my opinion.

Haha

[BrokenMirror]

From the list: Dustin Kensrue
Not from the list: Thom Yorke

[Indoor Living]

I gotta go with Jesse. But I love Casey and the Dear Hunter. Vital Vessle Vindicates is amazingly written.

[billymonk]

tomas is amazing. esp. on everything goes numb he fits so many lines that flow together so fluidly

[TheHays]

Ace Enders ftw!

[bailmeout13]

I'd say I am a Gibbard fan.

[Twizx]

I don't think Anthony Green is necessarily the best lyricist out of those options but I like his vocals the best. I voted for Lacey :O

[Kid B]

Sam Beam

[Iwudstilldie4u]

Ben Jorgensen

[A Love American]

I don't really like any of the lyricists on the list, but Isaac Brock, Sam Beam, Bob Dylan, and Bruce Springsteen are my favorites.

[Sic Transit Zeb]

I know he's good, that's why I put him in the poll.

Lol, i guessed that

[element11790]

brand new sucks, thats all i'm sayin

[Someone'sCoat]

brand new sucks, thats all i'm sayin
Sucks? Your Favorite Weapon did, absolutely. They don't suck but they do not deserve the praise they get as their lyrics are as mediocre as the music IMO

[element11790]

Sucks? Your Favorite Weapon did, absolutely. They don't suck but they do not deserve the praise they get as their lyrics are as mediocre as the music IMO

Yeah I guess thats true but i try to get into them and i cant and i feel like everyone thinks their the second coming of the beatles or something

[phil19]

Yeah I guess thats true but i try to get into them and i cant and i feel like everyone thinks their the second coming of the beatles or something

i really like brand new. i remember when deja came out everyone and their dog was comparing them to the smiths

[Someone'sCoat]

Yeah I guess thats true but i try to get into them and i cant and i feel like everyone thinks their the second coming of the beatles or something

yeah it's pretty ridiculous that Jesse is beating every lyricist that has ever lived. Just doesn't make any sense to me

[Sic Transit Zeb]

yeah it's pretty ridiculous that Jesse is beating every lyricist that has ever lived. Just doesn't make any sense to me

Not trying to be a dick here, but there's a reason for that. People connect with his lyrics the most, it seems.

I love Brand New for many reasons. They were one of the first bands that opened my eyes to good music, my first live show, and I've got so many memories attached to their songs/lyrics that I enjoy them even more.

I know not everyone loves Brand New as much as I do, but I honestly can't see how you can not appreciate them or their lyrics.

[Someone'sCoat]

Not trying to be a dick here, but there's a reason for that. People connect with his lyrics the most, it seems.

I love Brand New for many reasons. They were one of the first bands that opened my eyes to good music, my first live show, and I've got so many memories attached to their songs/lyrics that I enjoy them even more.

I know not everyone loves Brand New as much as I do, but I honestly can't see how you can not appreciate them or their lyrics.

It's cause most of their fans are teens. The majority of BN fans don't listen to Dylan, Beam, Drake or any if the other countless great lyricists. They stay within the scene and of course Lacey looks like a genius when the other bands they listen to are the Audition, the Academy Is and so on... I've got no problem with people liking those bands but I would hope people would think to broaden their horizons because that music has such empty and meaningless lyrics. I enjoy a few BN songs and Lacey has his moments but the greatest of all-time? Please.

Can you explain how you connect with his lyrics? Just curious

[Sic Transit Zeb]

It's cause most of their fans are teens. The majority of BN fans don't listen to Dylan, Beam, Drake or any if the other countless great lyricists. They stay within the scene and of course Lacey looks like a genius when the other bands they listen to are the Audition, the Academy Is and so on... I've got no problem with people liking those bands but I would hope people would think to broaden their horizons because that music has such empty and meaningless lyrics. I enjoy a few BN songs and Lacey has his moments but the greatest of all-time? Please.

Can you explain how you connect with his lyrics? Just curious

It's not so much greatest of all-time. That's like asking who the greatest QB of all-time is. It's an impossible question and everyone will say a different group. I do like Bob Dylan, I don't know the others, I won't lie. I wouldn't even classify TAI or The Audition in the same genre as Brand New either.

As for a connection on the music, it's from personal experience, to being around people while at a show or on a drive. It's the same way/reasons you've connected with whoever is or who are your favorite lyricists.

[iKrazie]

I don't think Anthony Green's lyrics are all at that impressive. Sometimes they don't make any sense, idk just my opinion.
well its more just what his band stood for on OLG , thats what made me say him

[Someone'sCoat]

It's not so much greatest of all-time. That's like asking who the greatest QB of all-time is. It's an impossible question and everyone will say a different group. I do like Bob Dylan, I don't know the others, I won't lie. I wouldn't even classify TAI or The Audition in the same genre as Brand New either.

As for a connection on the music, it's from personal experience, to being around people while at a show or on a drive. It's the same way/reasons you've connected with whoever is or who are your favorite lyricists.

It kind of is greatest though cause he asks who is the best lyricist. If there was no "other" option then it'd be out of the choices on this list but because that option is available that means everyone that has ever written a song. And yes everyone might say someone different, but just like with QB's, there are a pretty common top 5 answer. If you were to show most people who didn't grow up in the scene BN and tell them that Jesse is the best lyricist you've ever heard, you might give them a good laugh.


Personal experiences have no connection with my favorite lyricists or lyrics. Certain songs I like more than other and certain songs I can't grow out of because of my experiences I've had at shows with friends and whatnot but that has no effect on how good I think the song is. Just a reminder of good times that's all.

[Sic Transit Zeb]

It kind of is greatest though cause he asks who is the best lyricist. If there was no "other" option then it'd be out of the choices on this list but because that option is available that means everyone that has ever written a song. And yes everyone might say someone different, but just like with QB's, there are a pretty common top 5 answer. If you were to show most people who didn't grow up in the scene BN and tell them that Jesse is the best lyricist you've ever heard, you might give them a good laugh.


Personal experiences have no connection with my favorite lyricists or lyrics. Certain songs I like more than other and certain songs I can't grow out of because of my experiences I've had at shows with friends and whatnot but that has no effect on how good I think the song is. Just a reminder of good times that's all.

Best lyricist, in my opinion, does not mean best ever. I don't know his intentions. I assumed he meant the 'scene' today, not of all time.

Besides the fact, how can you really argue lyrics? It's like asking who is the best poet, or novelist ever. It goes down to personal taste, that's all.

[Fedaykin]

Bob Dylan.

Bob Dylan.

Bob Dylan.

Bob Dylan

Bob Dylan

Bob Dylan.

Bob Dylan.

Bob Dylan

Dylan

Yes to all and ty: the options here are a travesty

[Fedaykin]

oh ok, I'd like you to point me to one Thrice song with lyrics this impressive.

This is obviously just my own opinion, but I have always found the lyrics to the following song to be extremely thought provoking. It speaks to the socio-economic inequalities between the have-nots in developing nations and the haves here in consumer culture, post-industrial america. It accounts for the incredible apathy each of us has been taught to carry with us each day, to shield us from the facts that we deplore those who require our help most.

"Cold Cash And Colder Hearts"

They are sick, they are poor
And they die by the thousands and we look away
They are wolves at the door
And they're not gonna move us or get in our way

'Cause we don't have the time
Here at the top of the world
Feeling alright
Here at the top of the world

We hold our own by keeping our hearts cold

Different god, darker skin
They are just not a burden that we'd like to bear
They are living in "sin"
There are so many reasons for us not to care

But I'm feeling alright
Here at the top of the world
Doing just fine
Here at the top of the world

We've learned money matters most
So we keep our cards held close
Here at the top of the world

We hold our own by keeping our hearts cold
And we've learned what matters most
So we keep our hearts cold

They are no one
They are nowhere
They are not our problem
Not worth saving
Nonexistent if we keep our hearts cold

They are no one
They are nowhere

It's cause most of their fans are teens. The majority of BN fans don't listen to Dylan, Beam, Drake or any if the other countless great lyricists. They stay within the scene and of course Lacey looks like a genius when the other bands they listen to are the Audition, the Academy Is and so on...

I love posts like this: so you've met and talked with a majority of BN fans? I think it likely you'ven't encountered 1% of BN fans (given how large their following is) let alone 51%.

I happen to be a huge BN fan and simultaneously a big Dylan fan, though IMO I would put Lennon or Morrissey way over Beam or Drake.

[Someone'sCoat]

This is obviously just my own opinion, but I have always found the lyrics to the following song to be extremely thought provoking. It speaks to the socio-economic inequalities between the have-nots in developing nations and the haves here in consumer culture, post-industrial america. It accounts for the incredible apathy each of us has been taught to carry with us each day, to shield us from the facts that we deplore those who require our help most.

"Cold Cash And Colder Hearts"

They are sick, they are poor
And they die by the thousands and we look away
They are wolves at the door
And they're not gonna move us or get in our way

'Cause we don't have the time
Here at the top of the world
Feeling alright
Here at the top of the world

We hold our own by keeping our hearts cold

Different god, darker skin
They are just not a burden that we'd like to bear
They are living in "sin"
There are so many reasons for us not to care

But I'm feeling alright
Here at the top of the world
Doing just fine
Here at the top of the world

We've learned money matters most
So we keep our cards held close
Here at the top of the world

We hold our own by keeping our hearts cold
And we've learned what matters most
So we keep our hearts cold

They are no one
They are nowhere
They are not our problem
Not worth saving
Nonexistent if we keep our hearts cold

They are no one
They are nowhere



I love posts like this: so you've met and talked with a majority of BN fans? I think it likely you'ven't encountered 1% of BN fans (given how large their following is) let alone 51%.

I happen to be a huge BN fan and simultaneously a big Dylan fan, though IMO I would put Lennon or Morrissey way over Beam or Drake.
So you disagree that most of their fans either got into them when they were teens or are currently 19 or younger?

[smelltheglove]

This is obviously just my own opinion, but I have always found the lyrics to the following song to be extremely thought provoking. It speaks to the socio-economic inequalities between the have-nots in developing nations and the haves here in consumer culture, post-industrial america. It accounts for the incredible apathy each of us has been taught to carry with us each day, to shield us from the facts that we deplore those who require our help most.

"Cold Cash And Colder Hearts"

They are sick, they are poor
And they die by the thousands and we look away
They are wolves at the door
And they're not gonna move us or get in our way

'Cause we don't have the time
Here at the top of the world
Feeling alright
Here at the top of the world

We hold our own by keeping our hearts cold

Different god, darker skin
They are just not a burden that we'd like to bear
They are living in "sin"
There are so many reasons for us not to care

But I'm feeling alright
Here at the top of the world
Doing just fine
Here at the top of the world

We've learned money matters most
So we keep our cards held close
Here at the top of the world

We hold our own by keeping our hearts cold
And we've learned what matters most
So we keep our hearts cold

They are no one
They are nowhere
They are not our problem
Not worth saving
Nonexistent if we keep our hearts cold

They are no one
They are nowhere



I love posts like this: so you've met and talked with a majority of BN fans? I think it likely you'ven't encountered 1% of BN fans (given how large their following is) let alone 51%.

I happen to be a huge BN fan and simultaneously a big Dylan fan, though IMO I would put Lennon or Morrissey way over Beam or Drake.


the lyrics to that Thrice song are outstanding and I respect your opinion (that's big coming from an asshole like me).

Although, i think "stare at the sun" is equally impressive lyrically...and "issusion of safety" has kick ass lyrics throughout...'see you in the shallows'...even 'trust'...'in years to come'...uhhh most of it really.

jesse lacey, greg graffin and dustin are really all excellent lyricisists and each has their own unique style.

[smelltheglove]

So you disagree that most of their fans either got into them when they were teens or are currently 19 or younger?

i'm a brand new fan and i'm 28. I know at least 3 other guys over 25 that are brand new fans.

i got into them when i was 21, when YFW came out.

[Someone'sCoat]

i'm a brand new fan and i'm 28. I know at least 3 other guys over 25 that are brand new fans.

i got into them when i was 21, when YFW came out.
I'm talking about the majority of fans. I don't doubt at all that there are older fans out there.

[roju]

So you disagree that most of their fans either got into them when they were teens or are currently 19 or younger?

What does the age you were when you got into them have to with anything if you still love them and are out of your teens?

[Someone'sCoat]

What does the age you were when you got into them have to with anything if you still love them and are out of your teens?
Absolutely nothing. Dang. I've been proven wrong once again.

[Nobodyhearsyou]

I voted for anthony green here, but I would definitely say aaron weiss... no competition

[smelltheglove]

I'm talking about the majority of fans. I don't doubt at all that there are older fans out there.

at the brand new/thrice show, i would say the average age of attendants was 20 or 21, but there was still a significant portion over 21. i wouldn't not say BN have a young fan base overall, not like, paramore or a day to remember or anything like that. shit, Jesse Lacy is freakin' 30 years old and most people got into BN 5 years ago or so when Entendu came out so I'd say even the ones that were 15 back then would be 20 now.

[Someone'sCoat]

at the brand new/thrice show, i would say the average age of attendants was 20 or 21, but there was still a significant portion over 21. i wouldn't not say BN have a young fan base overall, not like, paramore or a day to remember or anything like that. shit, Jesse Lacy is freakin' 30 years old and most people got into BN 5 years ago or so when Entendu came out so I'd say even the ones that were 15 back then would be 20 now.

that's what I'm saying. Most are teens now or were when they got into them.

[CP_Ree]

Flame suit on. Not the best, but damn good. Jason Mraz.

[lew_1987]

Other: Trevor Reilly (A Wilhelm Scream)

[smelltheglove]

that's what I'm saying. Most are teens now or were when they got into them.

i think you misunderstood my post, i'm saying the average age of a BN fan is probably 21, with half their fans being over 21 and half being under 21. I would not say the majority of BN fans are teens, not based on what I have seen at their shows in terms of audience age and based on the fact that they've been pretty well known for 5 years now. But sure, I'd say 1/4 of BN's fan base are teens, but that pretty much goes for any band that isn't well into their 30's like NoFX or something.

[3eb23]

i went with other- Lupe Fiasco

[serenity1992]

Gotta go with Ben Gibbard...Jesse Lacey is good but I think Ben Gibbard wins this contest for sure