THE RIOT BEFORE (orgcore fans, where you at?)

[Rodeo]

So there is this really really amazing punk band from Richmond, VA called The Riot Before.

I was on tour with them for a few months. Fucking awesome dudes.. and AMAZING tunes. They have a CD coming out tomorrow and it's streaming live right now as a punknews.org exclusive.... PLEASE check them out.. they will own the world this year...


www.punknews.org/bands/theriotbefore (http://www.punknews.org/bands/theriotbefore)

[AP_Punk]

Good band!

Will check out the new album now.

[x togepi x]

i saw this band last july. it was fun

[thesafeword]

OrgyCore? Count me in.

[AP_Punk]

New album is pretty damn solid.

[versus_god]

So Long, The Lighthouse was two thumbs up. I'll have to check this out.

[Rodeo]

Anyone going to the fest?

[x togepi x]

i'm thinking about planning a trip down there. i'm just worried about cost.

[AP_Punk]

that ^^

but most likely not, which sucks.

[the thread]

Saw this band in Lansing last fall. Pretty cool.

[AP_Punk]

So Long, The Lighthouse was two thumbs up.

yup

[shit stroll]

Anyone going to the fest?
:wave:

[Brianfarg]

Just found out about this band. SO FUCKING SICK.

[AP_Punk]

sick, indeed.

[shit stroll]

backed.

[cfear]

this band sucks. it's not like i've gone to all but two of their texas shows or messaged them about hugs and beer or own like five shirts of theirs or have worn on the seams on the insert to horseshoes and handgrenades or include them on almost all mixtapes i make.

[Rodeo]

this band sucks. it's not like i've gone to all but two of their texas shows or messaged them about hugs and beer or own like five shirts of theirs or have worn on the seams on the insert to horseshoes and handgrenades or include them on almost all mixtapes i make.


hahah... if this is true, then odds are I have met you. did you see them in Texas in Feb./ March area?

[Rodeo]

Also, they have a review in this month's Alternative Press and an interview in next month's.

[cfear]

hahah... if this is true, then odds are I have met you. did you see them in Texas in Feb./ March area?

yeah. of course. i set up the show at 1919 in fort worth, and was at the show in denton with them. and i drove to austin with stymie and hung out at red 7 for party marty's shindigorama. when TRB comes around i drop my life and follow them. im bummed they had to cancel their post fest tour b/c i wanted to find an excuse to miss class and see them a bunch of times.

[Rodeo]

yeah. of course. i set up the show at 1919 in fort worth, and was at the show in denton with them. and i drove to austin with stymie and hung out at red 7 for party marty's shindigorama. when TRB comes around i drop my life and follow them. im bummed they had to cancel their post fest tour b/c i wanted to find an excuse to miss class and see them a bunch of times.

You were in one of the opening bands at 1919, weren't you?!

I'm pretty sure I completely remember you! I'm pretty sure we talked in the parking lot of the 1919 about the amazingly kickass records you got in that day. That burrito place across the street was amazing, btw.

[cfear]

You were in one of the opening bands at 1919, weren't you?!

I'm pretty sure I completely remember you! I'm pretty sure we talked in the parking lot of the 1919 about the amazingly kickass records you got in that day. That burrito place across the street was amazing, btw.

Yeah man. That place ruled. It's gone now though, which sucks. And yeah, I was in Excretion. Shitty band. I do vaguely remember talking about records in the parking lot. But only vaguely. I drink a lot.

[AP_Punk]

interview (http://www.punknews.org/article/30919)

[shit stroll]

dante!

[Justin_stacy]

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/orgcore/scene.jpg
I always found this funny.

[shit stroll]

regrettable alkaline trio tattoo.

:rotfl:

[AP_Punk]

i love the "well concealed against me! shirt" part.

awesome.

[shit stroll]

haha i have that shirt.

[AP_Punk]

album review (http://www.punknews.org/review/7754)/thread bump

[Markus1186]

Can anyone direct me to somehwere I can buy download! this album?? 8-)

[AP_Punk]

:-d

i've been looking for a link too. i still plan on buying the CD, too, since it's just about 6 bucks at No Idea.

[Jumpoff]

:-d

i've been looking for a link too. i still plan on buying the CD, too, since it's just about 6 bucks at No Idea.

If you want I can get you a link. I've been meaning to listen to these guys.. they got shafted on the fest though haha. Had to compete with Larry Arms and Andrew Jackson Jihad at the same timespot..

[AP_Punk]

If you want I can get you a link. I've been meaning to listen to these guys.. they got shafted on the fest though haha. Had to compete with Larry Arms and Andrew Jackson Jihad at the same timespot..

that would be swell!

haha. ouch.

[Jumpoff]

Fists Buried in Pockets is a great song.. I really do need a job to buy all the stuff I want :-p Plus it kinda sucks having like 10 12" records but no record player..

[Rodeo]

Glad to see this band getting the love!!

[Jumpoff]

The new album is completely running my life today. I need to buy this.

Glad to see this band getting the love!!

Any chance you can link me to a place where I can buy this on vinyl? (The main reason I dont buy CD's anymore is because.. I only really listen to the rips on my computer, and I dont need an actual physical copy in most cases.. just buying for future use when I do actually have a record player..)

[Justin_stacy]

Can anyone direct me to somehwere I can buy download! this album?? 8-)

its been up on soulseek for weeks.

[LendMeYourBrain]

I dont see it on soulseek :shrug:

[LendMeYourBrain]

Just kidding guys, just kidding.

[Markus1186]

I don't waste my time with soulseek, blogsearch ftw. I'll just order it.

[cfear]

dont listen to this positive propaganda. this band sucks dont listen to them ever or at all. the fewer that know the better because they unsck that much

[AP_Punk]

is the new album even out on vinyl?

[cfear]

is the new album even out on vinyl?

it was supposed to be. but i have no clue.

[AP_Punk]

loooks like it hasn't been released on wax yet. i've only seen it for sale on CD.

ohwell.

[Rodeo]

Yeah guys, not out on wax yet. Soon, soon, soon!

[AP_Punk]

yayyy

[Rodeo]

Love the avatar, jumpoff!!!

[Chris Fallon]

Just discovered this band not too long ago -- they're pretty good.

[Rodeo]

The Riot Before is in the new Alternative Press again!

[Rodeo]

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/25/l_d716e4f7333a4f7bbf0272ba9e776abe. jpg


We just posted our new myspace page! Check it out and add us to get all the SAY-10 updates and exclusives!!!

www.myspace.com/say10records

[shit stroll]

can you post a link to interview?

[Rodeo]

can you post a link to interview?


I'm trying to get it right now. I have a thread posted on the forum right now asking if someone can scan it for me.


They were in there the first time for an album review (4.5/5) and now they are in it as a band profile thing. Quarter-page deal. Right next to Bridge and Tunnel too!

[shit stroll]

hmm, i might just have to buy that issue.

[Rodeo]

hmm, i might just have to buy that issue.


Do itttttt. For having Fall Out Boy on the cover.. it actally has some pretty ok articles in it.

[freefall123]

If you want I can get you a link. I've been meaning to listen to these guys.. they got shafted on the fest though haha. Had to compete with Larry Arms and Andrew Jackson Jihad at the same timespot..

brandon whats going on? im stuck in school with billie.

[Rodeo]

haha

[Jumpoff]

brandon whats going on? im stuck in school with billie.

Talking about big bill? They seriously call him billie now? By the way, you're still going to the Ergs final show right? Think you'll be able to go to the off with their heads show if i'm back in PA by then?

PM me next time man or I probably won't see what you say haha

[LendMeYourBrain]

yeah I actually looked at that ap issue and there was a page about bridge and tunnel

[Rodeo]

yeah I actually looked at that ap issue and there was a page about bridge and tunnel


Yea! It's awesome!








Also, The Riot Before is #6 and #13 on Punknews' top favorite bands of October!


The system is based on how their album reviews are rated... and they had 2 reviews on the site...

[LendMeYourBrain]

it woulda scored higher but you cant dance sexy to punk rawk

[AP_Punk]

"words written over coffee" is a really cool song.

[Jumpoff]

Yes it is. The whole album is great. i think it's one of my favorites from this year already X-)

[AP_Punk]

same here! :beerbros:

it finally "clicked" with me lately and i absolutely like it.

[versus_god]

It's solid.

[Until The Bombs]

Really enjoying Fists Buried In Pockets.

[shit stroll]

trendy orgcore.

[Rodeo]

bahahah. :-)

[CellarGhosts]

finally checked them out, love Fists Buried In Pockets

[shit stroll]

:headbang:

[Justin_stacy]

ltsAmPsV8pI

really good acustic of 9 to 5

[AP_Punk]

nice!

[Justin_stacy]

regardless of your politics that is a fantastic song, played beautifully on their new album.

[AP_Punk]

agreeeded.

nice lucero cover too:

afcxNAuhcUE

[Justin_stacy]

fan singing sucks, unless you're there to join in.

[versus_god]

most excellent.

[AP_Punk]

i sorta think an acoustic version of "words written over coffee" would sound nice.

[Rodeo]

fucking awesomeeee.

[AP_Punk]

Beardpunk!

[versus_god]

Beardpunk!

[Rodeo]

You should see my beard right now. It's so fucking awesome. 23 days of no shave. It's a beast.

[AP_Punk]

hahaha.

[AP_Punk]

"we are wild stallions" video! (http://www.punknews.org/article/32825)

[shit stroll]

M-(

[AP_Punk]

:shakin:

[shit stroll]

:horse:

[AP_Punk]

is that the ted nugent smilie?

[ThemChains]

Freddy is my fucking dude. I couldn't make it to their video shoot but where they shot it is an awesome restaurant.

[shit stroll]

is that the ted nugent smilie?
hahaha

[Justin_stacy]

Test your bill and ted knowledge (http://www.flixster.com/user/starstripedsun/quiz/bill-and-teds-excellent-quiz).

[Wobbie]

The pink couch sessions version of 5 to 9 is so rad.

Also, i've always thought this pic i saw on their blog a while ago is so cool

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f309/i8oliveit/1468496778_978d8b4a23_o.jpg

[Justin_stacy]

this is still my favorite version of 9 to 5

ltsAmPsV8pI

[AP_Punk]

dispatches! (http://www.punknews.org/article/33409)

[AP_Punk]

episode 2! (http://www.punknews.org/article/33561)

[thesafeword]

I think that I saw this guy on iymi.

[AP_Punk]

i'm pretty sure you did!

[Justin_stacy]

Similar styled band. Worth checking out if you like Riot. The Rogue Set (http://www.myspace.com/rogueset). Start with the song "Sunrise Revamp".

[SSLYBY]

Time to try this band.

[AP_Punk]

fist buried in pockets LP is available at No Idea's site!

[eliselovesmusic]

orgcore?

W.
T.
F.

[Wobbie]

fist buried in pockets LP is available at No Idea's site!

Rad!! I wanna get me one. I lurve it.

[Wobbie]

orgcore?

W.
T.
F.
The name given to a lot of similar sounding/influenced bands listened to by a lot of people who read punknews.org. It's used very 'tounge in cheek' a lot.

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/orgcore/scene.jpg

[CellarGhosts]

W.
T.
F.

srslyguys

[Wobbie]

I lied. Orgcore is really the inner part of an orgasm.

[CellarGhosts]

Haha.

Orgcore is such a stupid term anyway. If that's how it is, then bands like Brand New, Manchester Orchestra and The Dangerous Summer ought to be called "netcore".

In fact, I'm starting that right now. Henceforth, bands such as Brand New, All Time Low, Taking Back Sunday, Say Anything etc shall be known as "netcore". I hope this catches on.

[AP_Punk]

Rad!! I wanna get me one. I lurve it.

:highfive:

Haha.

Orgcore is such a stupid term anyway. If that's how it is, then bands like Brand New, Manchester Orchestra and The Dangerous Summer ought to be called "netcore".

In fact, I'm starting that right now. Henceforth, bands such as Brand New, All Time Low, Taking Back Sunday, Say Anything etc shall be known as "netcore". I hope this catches on.

call it "ap punk"! :-d

[shit stroll]

ahahaha "netcore". i like it. :-d

[CellarGhosts]

:highfive:



call it "ap punk"! :-d
Haha, that also works!

ahahaha "netcore". i like it. :-d
:highfive:

Rob Dobi needs to make a new scenester for "Netcore" now, methinks.

[eliselovesmusic]

The name given to a lot of similar sounding/influenced bands listened to by a lot of people who read punknews.org. It's used very 'tounge in cheek' a lot.

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/orgcore/scene.jpg



Fascinatingly sad

[SwiftSilentDead]

"Netcore" hahahahaha. Brilliant.

[AP_Punk]

Fascinatingly sad

fascinatingly rad!

...in a kinda sad way. :-d

[eliselovesmusic]

"Netcore" hahahahaha. Brilliant.


I envy the person that sits at home finding new words to make into prefixes for the word 'core'.

[AP_Punk]

messageboard-core

[eliselovesmusic]

absolute-core

[SwiftSilentDead]

forum-core?

[eliselovesmusic]

AbsoluteMessageForum-core.


that's the shit right there.

[Wobbie]

fascinatingly rad!

...in a kinda sad way. :-d

Haha. I agree. I like the orgcore punker. He/she likes good music, can be somewhat intelligent, and is just a little bit more of a loser than i am. Which is secretly what everyone wants in a friend.

[AP_Punk]

episode 3 (http://www.punknews.org/article/33806)

[AP_Punk]

Haha. I agree. I like the orgcore punker. He/she likes good music, can be somewhat intelligent, and is just a little bit more of a loser than i am. Which is secretly what everyone wants in a friend.

i make sure all my friends meet these requirements before calling 'em friends! :-d

that includes ap.net friends too ;-)

[Genuma]

6VegeEfqEWw

Lead singer's old band. Kinda embarrassing haha. Almost makes it seem like he's riding the different scenes.

[element4433]

6VegeEfqEWw

Lead singer's old band. Kinda embarrassing haha. Almost makes it seem like he's riding the different scenes.Oh wow. That's bad.

[shit stroll]

6VegeEfqEWw

Lead singer's old band. Kinda embarrassing haha. Almost makes it seem like he's riding the different scenes.
lol that's so typical. i wonder which scene/trend he'll jump on to once "orgcore" becomes unpopular?

[Genuma]

lol that's so typical. i wonder which scene/trend he'll jump on to once "orgcore" becomes unpopular?
seriously, what a douche. Fists Buried in Pockets is awesome, so I guess we owe the trendster that.

[AP_Punk]

sooo the riot before is signed to paper+ plastick now, huh?

Paper + Plastick seriously loves Richmond, VA. Not only has the city provided us with P + P staples Landmines and Foundation, but it also served up our most recent signees The Riot Before. The Riot Before have been busy boys since 2005 with several excellent releases already under the quartet's belts. They started with a bang and released the "Horseshoes and Handgrenades" CD the first year they were together. They then followed it up with the "So Long, The LIghthouse" 7" EP on Quote Unquote Records and a split 7" with Broadway Calls that both saw the light of day in 2007. 2008 saw The Riot Before honing their sound even further as they released the critically acclaimed "Fists Buried in Pockets" album on Say-10 Records. While comparisons to Gainesville powerhouse Against Me! have popped up at times, this band is not riding any coattails. They play the sort of punk anthem that is at once catchy and different. Their anthems are politically charged, but not overbearingly so. The message never obscures the bands power and energy (and vis versa). Virtual touring machines, The Riot Before have already managed to chalk up over six official tours (the longest being a 75 day full US jaunt) and have shared the stage with the likes of The Gaslight Anthem, None More Black, Bomb the Music Industry, Off With Their Heads, Tim Barry and Smoke or Fire. 2009 finds the band with a new home at Paper + Plastick and exciting new releases in their future. Details will be coming extremely soon!

[shit stroll]

poor rodeo. :-d

[AP_Punk]

that's what i was thinking too. haha

i'm looking forward to new material though!

[shit stroll]

was fist buried ever released on vinyl?

[AP_Punk]

yup!

no idea! still has it in stock (http://www.noidearecords.com/display/?search=the%20riot%20before)

been meaning to pick it up, but keep forgetting. haha

[AP_Punk]

burritos (http://www.punknews.org/article/35083)

[Wobbie]

Paper + Plastick are fast gaining a phenomenal roster.

I only just found out that they did the vinyl release of the fun. album! And Andrew Dost, who released that nice little record on P+P is a member of fun. How did i not know this?

[Genuma]

poor rodeo. :-d
i don't get it.

[AP_Punk]

Paper + Plastick are fast gaining a phenomenal roster.

I only just found out that they did the vinyl release of the fun. album! And Andrew Dost, who released that nice little record on P+P is a member of fun. How did i not know this?

i still haven't checked out fun. yet :O

i don't get it.

the riot before were signed to the label rodeo helps run, say-10 records, which released fists buried and that broadway calls/trb split 7"!

then p+p snatched the band away! :-d

[Genuma]

i still haven't checked out fun. yet :O



the riot before were signed to the label rodeo helps run, say-10 records, which released fists buried and that broadway calls/trb split 7"!

then p+p snatched the band away! :-d
definitely get fun.

haha ohhhh. that's why he had those 7"s!

[AP_Punk]

those weren't the only 7"s he had! :flirt:

[Genuma]

rodeo wasn't sad about that part. hey-o!

[Genuma]

Fists...Out of Sockets is so cool.

[AP_Punk]

totes

[AP_Punk]

TRB to record with j robbins (http://www.punknews.org/article/36051)

excited to hear how this'll turn out!

[CellarGhosts]

Nice!

[AP_Punk]

so in this little Fest 8 program guide, that was included in my order from No Idea, there's a Say-10 Records ad that features a new release (coming soon) by The Riot Before called 2005-2007, which sounds like a b-sides comp. haven't heard anything about it anywhere else, but if it's still happening, that'll be cool to hear!

[apresnuledeluge]

Fists...Out of Sockets is so good. Even better than I had hoped.

[Rodeo]

I'm soooo proud! :-d:-d:-d:-d

[Justin_stacy]

really been enjoy the new acoustic record. certainly not better than the proper release, but there are a couple songs that i prefer in this style. I like the rough vocals alot too.

[AP_Punk]

bathroom tapes (http://www.punknews.org/article/36264)

[AP_Punk]

the oregon trail (http://www.punknews.org/article/37217)

[McIrish]

In the new AP, they gave Rebellion 4 out of 5 stars.

[shit stroll]

if the rest of the album sounds anything like "oregon trail" i don't want to hear it.

[McIrish]

I hope it doesn't because really don't like oregon trail. But the way they were describing Rebellion, it seemed like it's a real catchy record. So maybe oregon trail was just a throw away track.

[Chris Fallon]

Yeah, new song is pretty tepid and boring. Pretty forgettable.

[Wobbie]

I haven't heard the new song yet. It's been on my list of things to do. But i've been hearing bad things...

[Wobbie]

I just listened to The Oregon Trail, and i really like it :shrug:

[Paulb-182]

Just heard these on the xbox last.fm on Gaslight Anthems stream. Really good!

[prefix-core]

I envy the person that sits at home finding new words to make into prefixes for the word 'core'.

I just noticed this scrolling through this thread. Haha. :-) It made me happy, yo! My username.

[prefix-core]

Bump because "Words Written Over Coffee" is a perfect song for the weather today in Boston! BOOM! Can't wait to see these dudes with Cheap Girls next week!

[AP_Punk]

love, love, love that song so much.

how do cheap girls sound anyway? kinda dumb question; i could just go find out for myself :-d

[prefix-core]

love, love, love that song so much.

how do cheap girls sound anyway? kinda dumb question; i could just go find out for myself :-d

The Lemonheads is a pretty fair comparison. Southern fried 90's alt/indie-rock? Haha. I dig 'em a ton!

[shit stroll]

love, love, love that song so much.

how do cheap girls sound anyway? kinda dumb question; i could just go find out for myself :-d
http://www.myspace.com/cheapgirls

:-p

[AP_Punk]

new song (http://www.latenightwallflower.com/site/2010/04/04/contest-the-riot-before-=cheap-girls-prize-pack-hear-an-exclusive-new-riot-before-song/) sounds good, right?

[Chris Fallon]

Mmm, better than "Oregon Trail." Diggin' it hard.

[versus_god]

I guess this leaked sans track 9. Obnoxious. I haven't listened yet.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

I guess this leaked sans track 9. Obnoxious. I haven't listened yet.

You should hook a brother up.

:-)

[McIrish]

I guess this leaked sans track 9. Obnoxious. I haven't listened yet.

Can you hook me up too.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

:thumbup:

[versus_god]

Alright dude guys. Done. No problem.

I found a copy with everything, which I sent out. I wasn't expecting much but this is pretty alright.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

I'm really digging this a few songs in.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

"The Things I Hate" is awesome.

[Chris Fallon]

Pass along so I can review this shit along with Menzingers and Flatliners. Please. Love you guys

[McIrish]

Alright dude guys. Done. No problem.

I found a copy with everything, which I sent out. I wasn't expecting much but this is pretty alright.

Thank you sir

[reissgoespunk]

Someone fancy hooking me up with a link?

[Justin_stacy]

can't you just default PM when something good leaks...don't make me beg or whore kirby out for the night, its not fun for either of us...well its fun for him, but really hard to watch for me.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

can't you just default PM when something good leaks...don't make me beg or whore kirby out for the night, its not fun for either of us...well its fun for him, but really hard to watch for me.

hahaha

Do you still need it?

[Justin_stacy]

hahaha

Do you still need it?

ya i just posted that, the site i normally get shit from is down while the host is on vacation.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

ya i just posted that, the site i normally get shit from is down while the host is on vacation.

Gotcha.

Consider it done.

[Justin_stacy]

thanks!

[AP_Punk]

:slutkiss:

[Justin_stacy]

i'm blind i'm blind...its so little its so little....

[AP_Punk]

can i get a PM too of the new album

[aloneatlastnj]

can i get a PM too of the new album

me too


:-(

[AP_Punk]

rebellion sounds good :music:

[McIrish]

Pretty good record , I'm enjoying this more than Chamberlain

[prefix-core]

Gave this one a spin on the ride home tonight. Definitely diggin' it! Not sure if it'll be a "sticker" or not, but after one listen? I'm in love. The production is solid and the songs just...Sound important. If that makes sense.

[Genuma]

uhhh..hook a brother up?

[Justin_stacy]

i don't feel like i've given their last album enough attention...and now there's another...

[distilledw]

i don't feel like i've given their last album enough attention...and now there's another...

I feel exactly the same way! need to listen to both of them a whole lot more.

[prefix-core]

So. I've given the new album a whole handful of spins and at this point? It's my favorite of 2010. I'm sure it'll get toppled eventually but...Holy fuck. Being a fan since the first release? This shit blows my mind.

Not in a genre-defining sense, but in a "holy fuck, look how far they've come!" sort of way. The production is slick and full-sounding without being "too much," the songs are consistent but have some variety, they succesfully avoided becoming "just another folk-punk" band, and the lyrics keep getting better and better.

I'm sure this all made me sound like a total fan boy. But fuck it: T.S.R. Hard. Can't wait for the vinyl to come out. If it does. P&P's been slackin' lately. Still waiting on that Wilhelm Scream EP.

[AP_Punk]

definitely one of my favorites this year too. can't wait to get a physical copy of it. "uncharted lands" is one of my new TRB favorites now.

[prefix-core]

definitely one of my favorites this year too. can't wait to get a physical copy of it. "uncharted lands" is one of my new TRB favorites now.

Buddy-five! I misread that as "TBR" and was really confused as to why you were talking about Teenage Bottlerocket all of a sudden...That song is neat! I'm also partial to "What I've Missed."

Need to learn song titles and words better. Blargh.

[Markus1186]

Hmm, seem to be late on this but could anyone hook me up with a pm pleeassse?

[RyanLowry]

Am I the only person who thinks it's glaringly obvious (even if you've never heard Fly by Night) that Brett is just a former scene kid capitalizing on the orgcore craze to gain "cred"? This band is pretty bad. Especially that song "5 to 9". I actually laughed out loud the first time I listened to it.

[prefix-core]

Am I the only person who thinks it's glaringly obvious (even if you've never heard Fly by Night) that Brett is just a former scene kid capitalizing on the orgcore craze to gain "cred"? This band is pretty bad. Especially that song "5 to 9". I actually laughed out loud the first time I listened to it.

http://www.dvo.com/newsletter/monthly/2009/july/images/sandwich.jpg


I'm about to go get me one of these. You want one, too?

[versus_god]

http://www.dvo.com/newsletter/monthly/2009/july/images/sandwich.jpg


I'm about to go get me one of these. You want one, too?
i'm 24 and after a shitty breakup went from 180 to 166 pounds. i've stopped losing weight but i am still a little flabby. how can i harden up my mid section. crunches seem to be working only real slow and really it's not that much. i drink a lot of beer. is my only option to quit all the booze. i do lots of running. 4 miles 5 times a week. any suggestions on how to stop this plateau i've hit and get a little more hard/lean?

[prefix-core]

i'm 24 and after a shitty breakup went from 180 to 166 pounds. i've stopped losing weight but i am still a little flabby. how can i harden up my mid section. crunches seem to be working only real slow and really it's not that much. i drink a lot of beer. is my only option to quit all the booze. i do lots of running. 4 miles 5 times a week. any suggestions on how to stop this plateau i've hit and get a little more hard/lean?

What the hell? Are you mocking my blog?!! HAH! I have no idea what any of that means.

EDIT: Sometimes I miss references/jokes. :-(

[shit stroll]

What the hell? Are you mocking my blog?!! HAH! I have no idea what any of that means.

EDIT: Sometimes I miss references/jokes. :-(
this punknews troll/fake user would post that in every against me story a few years back.

[prefix-core]

this punknews troll/fake user would post that in every against me story a few years back.

Ah. I'm a silly goose. But just for the record? Brett's about the same age as most users on this site...Most of whom were probably listening to other music at the time, as well.

And for real? That sammich looks delicious.

[AP_Punk]

omg table

[shit stroll]

Ah. I'm a silly goose. But just for the record? Brett's about the same age as most users on this site...Most of whom were probably listening to other music at the time, as well.

And for real? That sammich looks delicious.
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it's not a stretch of the imagination to think he's a "former scene kid capitalizing on the orgcore craze" at all.

[prefix-core]

6VegeEfqEWw

it's not a stretch of the imagination to think he's a "former scene kid capitalizing on the orgcore craze" at all.

Oh, I've seen that video before. Haha. But I don't know. I've been a fan (albeit via MySpace) since before that first record dropped, when it was an acoustic project (2006, maybe?) ... And really got into them when the first album came out on East of the West. Which was a bit before this whole thing could be considered a "craze."

Maybe I'm naieve? Who the fuck knows. Either way, the one hole in the whole thing is the fact that they seem to have steered clear of much of the previous "folk-punk" stuff and gone for a more "rock" approach. It just seems weird to accuse somebody of attempting to "cash in" on something while they don't seem to be making any money, probably ever will, and are playing shitty bars. Haha.

I would actually buy the possibility if their new album had keyboards and a folk-punk vibe. But...Yeah. Shrug.

[RyanLowry]

Either way, the one hole in the whole thing is the fact that they seem to have steered clear of much of the previous "folk-punk" stuff and gone for a more "rock" approach. It just seems weird to accuse somebody of attempting to "cash in" on something while they don't seem to be making any money, probably ever will, and are playing shitty bars. Haha.


Or maybe they've studied Against Me!'s career very closely.

[prefix-core]

Or maybe they've studied Against Me!'s career very closely.

You were ten when Reinventing Axl Rose was released, li'l guy. /conversation

[RyanLowry]

You were ten when Reinventing Axl Rose was released, li'l guy. /conversation
Touche. I'll do you one better: you were nine when The Good, the Bad, and the Argyle was released. Nice avatar. /hypocrisy.
But really, ageism is a pretty pathetic technique to employ when you're debating music. Is my opinion about Neil Young also irrelevant, even though he's my favorite artist of all time and I wasn't born when Harvest was released?

[prefix-core]

Touche. I'll do you one better: you were nine when The Good, the Bad, and the Argyle was released. Nice avatar. /hypocrisy.
But really, ageism is a pretty pathetic technique to employ when you're debating music. Is my opinion about Neil Young also irrelevant, even though he's my favorite artist of all time and I wasn't born when Harvest was released?

My point wasn't so much your age in terms of appreciating music. You aren't discussing music. You're attempting to discuss the philosophy, morals, etc. that you presume to be behind the music being made.

There's no age limit on appreciating music. But in attempting to discuss the rationale behind certain decisions? A certain amount of experience is helpful. It's easy to point fingers about "selling out" or attempting to "cash-in." But, really? When you look at Against Me's career...On the grand scheme of things? All they've achieved is becoming a marginally successful punk rock band.

Playing the music they play they will never--I repeat, never--be able to pack arenas. Talk to me when they've written a song that Top 40 radio decides to play. Not when they're one flop away from getting dropped by their major label.

[RyanLowry]

My point wasn't so much your age in terms of appreciating music. You aren't discussing music. You're attempting to discuss the philosophy, morals, etc. that you presume to be behind the music being made.

There's no age limit on appreciating music. But in attempting to discuss the rationale behind certain decisions? A certain amount of experience is helpful. It's easy to point fingers about "selling out" or attempting to "cash-in." But, really? When you look at Against Me's career...On the grand scheme of things? All they've achieved is becoming a marginally successful punk rock band.

Playing the music they play they will never--I repeat, never--be able to pack arenas. Talk to me when they've written a song that Top 40 radio decides to play. Not when they're one flop away from getting dropped by their major label.

I don't know what the radio stations around you play, but AM! had two singles (Thrash Unreal and Stop!) that were legitimate radio hits around here. Their new single is getting a TON of hype as well.

[RyanLowry]

Playing the music they play they will never--I repeat, never--be able to pack arenas. Talk to me when they've written a song that Top 40 radio decides to play. Not when they're one flop away from getting dropped by their major label.

Have you listened to their new record?

[Chris Fallon]

Omg Against Me must be the first band to ever go from an indie to a major and change their sound in order to fill arenas.

Funny how no one gives older artists the same shit, even though 99.9% of any asshole who picks up a guitar wants to play music for as many people as fucking possible. As soon as a melody more than a core group of people enjoy pops its way onto a record, all hell breaks loose.

New argument, please.

[prefix-core]

Omg Against Me must be the first band to ever go from an indie to a major and change their sound in order to fill arenas.

Funny how no one gives older artists the same shit, even though 99.9% of any asshole who picks up a guitar wants to play music for as many people as fucking possible. As soon as a melody more than a core group of people enjoy pops its way onto a record, all hell breaks loose.

New argument, please.

...Or we could discuss the Riot Before and the fact that they're yet to headline a venue bigger than a bar. Haha. And how they're new album steers clear of that whole Against Me! vibe as. ;-)

Seriously though. How awesome is the new album? It's a step forward in every way.

[RyanLowry]

Omg Against Me must be the first band to ever go from an indie to a major and change their sound in order to fill arenas.

Funny how no one gives older artists the same shit, even though 99.9% of any asshole who picks up a guitar wants to play music for as many people as fucking possible. As soon as a melody more than a core group of people enjoy pops its way onto a record, all hell breaks loose.

New argument, please.

Yeah, but most of those bands never made money off of a DVD in which their singer specifically said "We've had people tell us they'll give us a million dollars to make a record. That's insane. That's so far removed from anything we want to do or want to stand for as a band." or "Just give me a scene where the music is free" or "Our arenas are just basements and bookstores across an underground America", etc. You get the point.

This argument has been beaten to death since 2004 though so I will stop.

[shit stroll]

hey andy, do you have a link to the new album?

[prefix-core]

hey andy, do you have a link to the new album?

Not right now. I'm on the work computer, which means all of my bookmarks and ish are at home. I'll certainly hook it up when I get home, though! Just hit me up with a PM as a reminder. I know there's at least one forum that it's on...But uh, it's a foreign language one. So the fact that it's titled "punko" something or other doesn't do any good. X-)

[prefix-core]

Also, with regard to the new record: I really dig when a new producer takes the reins and you can hear the change in sound...And, y'know, it has an effect on the band the way that you'd expect. In this case? It'd be the tightened rhythm sections, omnipresent bass, etc. J. Robbins = <3

[shit stroll]

didn't know j.robbins produced the new one. sweet.

[shit stroll]

i think i found it.

[prefix-core]

Really funny interview-type thing at PunkNews. (http://www.punknews.org/article/37983)

"Make it your San Dimas High School Football Rules." Hahahaha!

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

Absolutely fallen in love with this album in the past few days. "Uncharted Lands" is my jam.

[AP_Punk]

http://www.districtlines.com/Paper-And-Plastick/

LP/CD/t shirt deal looks so tempting. for me atleast.

[prefix-core]

Already pre-ordered! Aaaand a'cited for it! I can't wait to read the lyrics for this one. Brett pretty much rules on that front.

[AP_Punk]

b-sod! (http://thesenumbers.com/theriotbefore.html)

[love_american_style]

Orgcore?!?!?! lol

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

My album of the year. For realsies.

[distilledw]

I think it's just inches behind Chamberlain Waits for me. Superb album though, your praise makes me want to listen to it, will do that now!

Also all the comments about the LP presentation mean that i will have to pick it up later as well.

[Star Slight]

Just realized that I had this on my itunes since February and only listened once.
Spinning now, its amazing.

EDIT:
Just realized that I'm really behind on my Riot Before and that they released a CD this year.

:sadangel:

[RyanLowry]

I like to think of bands like TRB and the Menzingers as bands that make semi-decent punk rock to hold us over until another band as exciting as Against Me! circa 2003-2006 comes along. Which probably won't be for a very long time.

[prefix-core]

From Twitter...

"Those kids had a Day To Remember & Bring Me The Horizon shirts on and were stoked! We converted them! That's like some Jesus shit!" - Cory

Awesome. Simply awesome. Haha. Really sad I missed these dudes the other night here in Boston. And the Flatliners. Eff work. :-(

[AP_Punk]

a new release, full of old stuff! (http://www.punknews.org/article/40709)

[shit stroll]

Holy Hounds (Official Thread)

[prefix-core]

a new release, full of old stuff! (http://www.punknews.org/article/40709)

Do want! It'll be nice to get a decent version of the stuff from the Broadway Calls split. I'm still proud of the fact that I have the original CD release of that first, self-released record. I should take a picture for a sweet brag!

[AP_Punk]

Do want! It'll be nice to get a decent version of the stuff from the Broadway Calls split. I'm still proud of the fact that I have the original CD release of that first, self-released record. I should take a picture for a sweet brag!

you mean Horseshoes and Hand Grenades? Or something else i'm not familiar with!? :-0

and speaking of those old Riot releases, looks like Fall of the West still has 'em available (http://www.fallofthewest.com/releases.htm). Been meaning to pick those up.

and yeah, i'm looking forward to hearing cleaned up versions of all this old material! was wondering whatever happened to this release ever since it was announced like about a year ago. haha.

[prefix-core]

you mean Horseshoes and Hand Grenades? Or something else i'm not familiar with!? :-0

and speaking of those old Riot releases, looks like Fall of the West still has 'em available (http://www.fallofthewest.com/releases.htm). Been meaning to pick those up.

and yeah, i'm looking forward to hearing cleaned up versions of all this old material! was wondering whatever happened to this release ever since it was announced like about a year ago. haha.

Yup! That's the one. Haha. Guess it's not so special after all. But whatever...Still good jams! I forgot it was released on a label.

[AP_Punk]

"Backstage Room" vid (http://www.punknews.org/article/40780)

[prefix-core]

Bathroom Tapes with Brett playing "Oregon Trail" acoustic. (http://vimeo.com/16935969) On a toilet? Good stuff! Do want more acoustic goodness from them.

[AP_Punk]

gorgeous

[katiedontcryx41]

did orgcore come from 'the org' (punknew.org)?

[AP_Punk]

did orgcore come from 'the org' (punknew.org)?

yup. basically a term that describes certain kinda punk bands that punknews regulars/reviewers enjoy. and then it got applied to other bands that sound like those .org-adored bands. or something like that. the term's silly and dumb. just like punknews posters! heyooooo!

[Fourchordwonder]

I dig their music, but for some reason I've never really gotten into them. Maybe I should have seen them when they came through town a few months ago.

[katiedontcryx41]

yup. basically a term that describes certain kinda punk bands that punknews regulars/reviewers enjoy. and then it got applied to other bands that sound like those .org-adored bands. or something like that. the term's a silly dumb joke. just like punknews posters! heyooooo!

i know which bands it describes, hahaha gotta love the org. as for the posters, they're funnnnay sometimes but i wouldn't really know. don't have an account or anything

[AP_Punk]

i know which bands it describes, hahaha gotta love the org. as for the posters, they're funnnnay sometimes but i wouldn't really know. don't have an account or anything

yeah, their asshole-ish attitude is amusing sometimes. and other times, it's eye-roll-y. the commenters are usually more humorous than the news posters here. but in the end both sections make me wanna do this :trout:

[prefix-core]

yeah, their asshole-ish attitude is amusing sometimes. and other times, it's eye-roll-y. the commenters are usually more humorous than the news posters here. but in the end both sections make me wanna do this :trout:

Usually? Haha. I'd say each thread on that site has at least one solid "LOL" post among the bunch. Of course, they're also dickbags who are awful when it comes to actually having discussions or whatever but that's why we all post here instead of there!

However. I will also say that I wish more people who posted on this site had a better sense of humor. Haha.

[Wobbie]

I've always thought Brett had a great voice, but i didn't really appreciate just how great until i saw acoustic videos. One HELL of a voice! Amazing.

The Bathroom Sessions - You Can't Sexy Dance To Punk Rock
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The Bathroom Sessions - Watermark (Weakerthans Cover)
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Live on The Punkyard - The Oregon Trail
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Live on The Punkyard - To Live How We Believe
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[Wobbie]

Usually? Haha. I'd say each thread on that site has at least one solid "LOL" post among the bunch. Of course, they're also dickbags who are awful when it comes to actually having discussions or whatever but that's why we all post here instead of there!

However. I will also say that I wish more people who posted on this site had a better sense of humor. Haha.
I love reading comments on the org. I do it daily. Some hilarious stuff in there. Yeah, a lot of dicks too, but still, a lot of hilarity.

[AlternateToLife]

Loving the Weakerthans cover

[AP_Punk]

Usually? Haha. I'd say each thread on that site has at least one solid "LOL" post among the bunch. Of course, they're also dickbags who are awful when it comes to actually having discussions or whatever but that's why we all post here instead of there!

However. I will also say that I wish more people who posted on this site had a better sense of humor. Haha.

I love reading comments on the org. I do it daily. Some hilarious stuff in there. Yeah, a lot of dicks too, but still, a lot of hilarity.

what wobbie waid!

[RyanLowry]

Of all the RVA bands who have gotten attention over the years, these guys are BY FAR the shittiest.

[RyanLowry]

Mostly because Brett is not a product of the punk scene; he's a scene kid who got into orgcore when it became popular. I'm guessing he'll make a dubstep record next.

[Wobbie]

Mostly because Brett is not a product of the punk scene; he's a scene kid who got into orgcore when it became popular. I'm guessing he'll make a dubstep record next.
"Not a product of the punk scene". Who gives a shit what he's a "product" of. The fact is, he's writing/playing this kind of music now, and it appeals to a lot of people. He has a great voice for it, and he can write a good song. I personally don't care what kind of guy he supposedly is.

[Wobbie]

what wobbie waid!
Awesome alliteration... a'ight? I don't know :-d

[prefix-core]

Hey! I like alliteration!

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

God, I wish people would get over how he was in a different style band before The Riot Before.

The Riot Before is fucking amazing. Suck my dick and fuck you. :-d

[Wobbie]

Hey! I like alliteration!
You adore it even!

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

'scuse?

[Wobbie]

Fixed :-)

[Wobbie]

God, I wish people would get over how he was in a different style band before The Riot Before.

The Riot Before is fucking amazing. Suck my dick and fuck you. :-d
Amen. Who cares what type of music he previously played, or if he wears tight jeans (and he wears very tight jeans, haha). The music he, and the other members of the band make, whether you like the music or not, is well written, passionate, and sounds like it's from the heart. What more could you ask for.

[Dragondick]

What is orgcore?

[prefix-core]

What is orgcore?

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/orgcore/scene.jpg

Click here for a more accurate/specific description. (http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/orgcore/index.htm)