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Jared Kaufman
12/02/04, 10:57 AM
Last night at the Finch (http://www.finchmusic.com) and Saosin (http://www.saosin.com) show, Finch played five new songs. They didn't say the name of two of them, but the other three from what I heard were: "Ink", "Insomniatic Meat", and "Miro." They also refused to play "Letters To You" and R2K said the new album would be coming out in "March ... 2055."
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SonEric84
12/02/04, 11:05 AM
I think it's stupid that they refuse to play "Letters To You."
T/I/M/E/B/O/M/B
12/02/04, 11:06 AM
letters to you sucks ass dude
projectmayhem16
12/02/04, 11:13 AM
whoa, I wish I could've heard Ink, but the other song titles are actually "Insomniatic Meat" and "Miro"
EmoTorture
12/02/04, 11:16 AM
Last night at the Finch (http://www.finchmusic.com) and Saosin (http://www.saosin.com) show, Finch played five new songs. They didn't say the name of two of them, but the other three from what I heard were: "Ink", "Insomniac Me", and "Monroe." They also refused to play "Letters To You" and R2K said the new album would be coming out in "March ... 2055."
Submitted By Steve Ponce
EWWWWWW
reallyscrewykid
12/02/04, 11:18 AM
letters to you sucks ass dude
seriously. i mean how many times can you say i want you to know that i miss you?
SonEric84
12/02/04, 11:20 AM
That's not the point, the point is a lot of their fans like that song...and just because they're too hardcore to play it now (or so they think) doesn't mean they shouldn't play it.
marrost
12/02/04, 11:26 AM
That's not the point, the point is a lot of their fans like that song...and just because they're too hardcore to play it now (or so they think) doesn't mean they shouldn't play it.
They don't like playing the fucking song. It's their band. It sucks anyway.
SonEric84
12/02/04, 11:27 AM
I just find it disrespectful to fans that go to a show and want to hear a band they like play a certain song.
marrost
12/02/04, 11:30 AM
Yea but what is the song like five years old? No one likes playing too much of their old shit.
SonEric84
12/02/04, 11:31 AM
True, true...but when the other times there have been posts about this and the band themselves say the song sucks just annoys me because they wrote it and suddenly it's like they're too cool to play it or something. I dunno maybe I am reading into it too much but that's how it sounds to me.
beefhung
12/02/04, 11:34 AM
it's totally up to the band...i like "letters to you", but they have a bunch of better ones. as long as they keep me entertained, it's all good.
seriously. i mean how many times can you say i want you to know that i miss you?
10, if you're finch
payforglory
12/02/04, 11:48 AM
last time i saw them nobody seemed to be into the new stuff at all. thank god counterfit and recover played.
dont get me wrong, i still like the old stuff, and i liked worms of the earth even, but the newer stuff (musically) and thier overall performance (old and new stuff) seemed to lack a lot when i saw them here in toledo.
did i catch them on a bad day or did it seem like they wanted to be glassjaw meets deftones way too much?
AreTwoKay
12/02/04, 12:11 PM
They haven't played "Letters To You" or "Stay With Me" in a long time ... I love "Insomniac Meat" cant wait till 2055
djUbilla
12/02/04, 12:17 PM
It's their show...they'd be selling out to the fans and just being their "pawns" so to speak if they played every song the fans yelled out at them. Yeah, it's cool when bands do that every now and then, out of the blue, but they're sick of playing the song ok, it doesn't mean anything to them anymore, they get bored playing it. They're not too "cool" they've just matured. Do you still listen to your old Weird Al records...well there ya go.
somebodypunchme
12/02/04, 12:34 PM
its amazing some bands still play some of their big songs.. goldfinger has been playing "here in your bedroom" for 10 years now.. same with rancid, playing ruby soho every night for the past decade..
midtown also refuses to play 'just rock and roll'. some bands just get sick of their songs, its natural. imagine listening to a song u loved 10 years ago.. imagine still listening to it every day.
redwing_uk
12/02/04, 12:36 PM
Yeah, i agree, is just a progression thing. Personally I love "Letters To You", i would love for them to play it when I go see them, but if it's not going to happen then I respect their decision. Looking forward to the new LP in a big way, the new stuff sounds so good live.
(Though they'd better not stop playing "What It Is To Burn"...).
Lorenzo's Oil
12/02/04, 12:46 PM
Saosin > Finch.....Finch's New Stuff < Finch's Old Stuff
Basketcase
12/02/04, 12:48 PM
Saosin > Finch.....Finch's New Stuff < Finch's Old Stuff
totally agree. when i saw Finch back in September, the new songs they played seemed pretty boring.
projectmayhem16
12/02/04, 12:48 PM
last time i saw them nobody seemed to be into the new stuff at all. thank god counterfit and recover played.
dont get me wrong, i still like the old stuff, and i liked worms of the earth even, but the newer stuff (musically) and thier overall performance (old and new stuff) seemed to lack a lot when i saw them here in toledo.
did i catch them on a bad day or did it seem like they wanted to be glassjaw meets deftones way too much?how you think the new material sounds like GlassJaw or Deftones is beyond me, those 2 bands obviously had an influence on them but these new songs are in their own caliber and I for one am sick of people beating that horse to fucking death, listen to the songs and if you would like to tell me that A Man Alone sounds like GlassJaw or that Insomniatic Meat sounds like Deftones then your opinion is in void. Honestly I am a huge Deftones fan but these new songs are light years ahead of anything they have done in terms of complexity. All in all Finch have taken their influences such as the aforementioned bands and found their own unique niche.
StifflerRocks
12/02/04, 01:01 PM
how can anyone hate letters to you? whether or not he repeats i miss you alot doesnt change the fact that the song is catchy and written well. If they dont play it anymore because they wanna fit into the "harder" scene then fuck them for that but otherwise that songs fucking good.
palisadevoice
12/02/04, 01:02 PM
True, true...but when the other times there have been posts about this and the band themselves say the song sucks just annoys me because they wrote it and suddenly it's like they're too cool to play it or something. I dunno maybe I am reading into it too much but that's how it sounds to me.
I can see where you're coming from but, being in a band myself, sometimes you just get really tired of playing certain songs and you just don't want to play them anymore. Do you really want to see a band play a song that they are essentially being forced, or at least guilted, into playing? They won't have any emotion and they won't be enjoying themselves. Embrace the change... And drive home listening to the old cd.
Nate_RAWKS
12/02/04, 01:04 PM
2055 seems so far away...
sweitz03
12/02/04, 01:06 PM
yeah, would have been nice to hear their new stuff, but i think they played like what, 5 songs at rolling rock. that a big part of why i was looking forward to seeing them that day. anyone picking up lindsay lohan on tuesday? anyone? lol
fluke182
12/02/04, 01:16 PM
I bet they are going to sound like Glassjaw meets Mars Volta meets Reggae meets Incubus or something now...
actionandaction
12/02/04, 01:25 PM
2055 seems so far away...
2055? Isn't that when the Guns N Roses Chinese Democracy record comes out?
marbury1414
12/02/04, 01:37 PM
The new stuff sounded really good live actually. Obviously alot of fans couldn't get into it that much because they simply didn't know it and hadn't heard it before which is what happens when a band plays material that hasn't been released yet. I was into it just the same because I have the Glasshouse bootleg and so I was familiar with most of the new songs already. Also Ink is by far my favorite new song. They didn't play Bitemarks though!?
I personally thought it was kinda neat they don't play letters to you. People change, successful bands have to keep changing up the set list to keep things interesting. Finch's new songs I heard back in july were amazing.
You all should have been at the denver show in july, R2K "for the first time ever" played a medley of letters to you, stay with me, and bury me. actually it was just the opening riffs, but it was pretty funny.
new finch album is gonna be good i think...blah blah blah..they sold out...blah blah blah. I think finch is one of the most honest bands out there in terms of their performance and sound, they do what they want not what a bunch of little whiny kids on a message board want. Letters to you was boring live and too many people crowd surfed during that song anyways....least they still play wiitb right?
my only gripe is that I don't know the new songs and couldn't sing along...other than that after seeing them for the sixth time they still amazed me. The 4th and a little bit on the 5th time I was getting a little worried, but this last time really reinforced my confidence in them as a band.
so there...
babywhooper
12/02/04, 01:51 PM
play it or not, i'm taking a guess that saosin pretty much stole the show? am i correct?
lewisonfire
12/02/04, 01:52 PM
I bet they are going to sound like Glassjaw meets Mars Volta meets Reggae meets Incubus or something now...
actually you're pretty close...I have 8 songs on their new material it sounds like incubus a lot, some mars volta and a huge failure-hum-hopesfall-space-rock-vibe
projectmayhem16
12/02/04, 02:00 PM
actually you're pretty close...I have 8 songs on their new material it sounds like incubus a lot, some mars volta and a huge failure-hum-hopesfall-space-rock-vibethats not a bad comparison but for the Incubus reference to be true it would have to be Incubus in the S.C.I.E.N.C.E. era, but other than that you're pretty much dead on.
Chemical Love
12/02/04, 02:13 PM
march 2055..thats pretty funny. i'm glad he likes fucking with his fans like that who support him. that shit pisses me off.
DriveThruFinch
12/02/04, 02:14 PM
quick question .. is finch still on the san francisco date?
IcarusInFlames
12/02/04, 02:16 PM
Maybe they want fans who like them for more than just one song. When I saw POTUSA everyone was like "Play Lump/Peaches" and get off the stage"...but they have so much quality stuff, and are probably so damn sick of playing those songs (even though they did end up playing them)
You probably get sick of hearing overplayed songs, so imagine writing one and recording it 1000 times before anyone else even hears it, then playing it every single night for 1000 more times.
ForeverInADay
12/02/04, 02:26 PM
2055 should be a great year. Time Travelling AND a new Finch album
em0_stars
12/02/04, 02:28 PM
I could see why they would refuse to play it, i mean would you want to play the same song 1,000,000 times?
march 2055..thats pretty funny. i'm glad he likes fucking with his fans like that who support him. that shit pisses me off.
hehe, wow, you're taking r2k way too seriously, bands have been doing stuff like that forever...examples:
I remember seeing Freddie Mercury (Queen) introduce crazy little thing called love at wembley in '86 and he called the audience "a bunch of lovely crazy ***gots" and they played a sold out show the next night and added more shows...he obviously didn't upset anyone...
also in 82 when referring to stuff off their hot space album he said they were gonna play some songs from it and "if you don't like it then fucking go home" ...hmm and they played sold out live shows for 4 more years after that.
but he was obviously bad mouthing his fans who came to their show...what an ass.....lol...seriously man....can't you take a joke?
Nate_RAWKS
12/02/04, 02:33 PM
2055 should be a great year. Time Travelling AND a new Finch album
HAHAHA
I can't wait!!!
Pooavenger
12/02/04, 02:58 PM
Who cares what they play or don't play. If you don't like it don't go to their shows. I've seen them a few times recently and their last show @ the El Rey in LA was awesome. Their new stuff sounds okay. Its just taking them a long time. By the time they are done they won't be in the mainstream and will be able to play smaller venues. This album is probably going to be the untimely demise of this band anyway.
Maybe they want fans who like them for more than just one song. When I saw POTUSA everyone was like "Play Lump/Peaches" and get off the stage"...but they have so much quality stuff, and are probably so damn sick of playing those songs (even though they did end up playing them)
Like "Bug City". I love that song.
eXcivory
12/02/04, 03:17 PM
you people are nuts. They don't want to play a song in the repetoire, oh well. Going to disappoint some fans, and some others will be overjoyed because they are playing a different song that they love instead. Happens all the time, r2k and the guys are different because they are very vocal about their decisions...which, if you ask me, is a refreshing thing.
When I saw the 5 new songs live I was more than impressed. On what it is to burn, there are a few exceptional tracks that blow me away every time I listen to them. I feel like the new tracks were an extension of that, and some of the cheesy pop-punkness was filtered out.
So i will wait for March 2055 with anticipation!
irthesteve
12/02/04, 03:32 PM
whoa, I wish I could've heard Ink, but the other song titles are actually "Insomniatic Meat" and "Miro"
ah, i was so close too, it sounded like "meat" the first time he said it and "me" the second time, so i guessed the one that made sense to me. and for "Miro" he basically sounded like he said "mawaow" so try to make that into a word, haha... thanks thou
irthesteve
12/02/04, 03:35 PM
play it or not, i'm taking a guess that saosin pretty much stole the show? am i correct?
eh, i dunno, musically they were great, but cove seemed like he was kinda holding back. on the singing parts he sang really quietly like he was afraid, but when he was doing the yelling it was alot like anthony and i thought it sounded good. some of my friends were being dicks and yelling "where's anthony" and cove said something along the lines of "im the the only cove you are getting tonight so deal with it" and went on. i later told my friend he was an asshole
SwedishHeat
12/02/04, 04:18 PM
last time i saw them nobody seemed to be into the new stuff at all. thank god counterfit and recover played.
dont get me wrong, i still like the old stuff, and i liked worms of the earth even, but the newer stuff (musically) and thier overall performance (old and new stuff) seemed to lack a lot when i saw them here in toledo.
did i catch them on a bad day or did it seem like they wanted to be glassjaw meets deftones way too much?
My experience was the same. They just came on stage, played some songs, Randy screwed around, they played some more songs, the band walked offstage, Nate and Randy came back, played Ender, Nate walked offstage and Randy screwed around with his sample machine then walked offstage. The crowd really didn't know it was over. . . if they hadn't played Ender, nobody would've guessed they were done.
It was just weird. When they played the new songs, they didn't say anything about them, like titles or anything.
I really don't know what to make of all this. It seems like they're just not into it anymore, but then you stop and think that they've been recording for the past year, so they must still be into it.
heavy loads
12/02/04, 04:19 PM
eh, i dunno, musically they were great, but cove seemed like he was kinda holding back. on the singing parts he sang really quietly like he was afraid, but when he was doing the yelling it was alot like anthony and i thought it sounded good. some of my friends were being dicks and yelling "where's anthony" and cove said something along the lines of "im the the only cove you are getting tonight so deal with it" and went on. i later told my friend he was an asshole
there new singer cove doesnt deserve to be in saosin.. im mean look at his old band (purevolume.com/mormoninthemiddle) and tell me this guy deserves saosin. im sure he will sound amazing on the record tho because beau is the man.. i have like 6 new intrumentals i cant wait to hear them with vocals.
Adeniz19
12/02/04, 04:46 PM
in my eyes... finch can do no wrong
B-Bones
12/02/04, 04:53 PM
play it or not, i'm taking a guess that saosin pretty much stole the show? am i correct?
i was at the show. and yes. saosin completely owned the show. at least in my opinion. they are amazing. also, r2k said march 2022 not 2055, not that it matters.
B-Bones
12/02/04, 04:58 PM
eh, i dunno, musically they were great, but cove seemed like he was kinda holding back. on the singing parts he sang really quietly like he was afraid, but when he was doing the yelling it was alot like anthony and i thought it sounded good. some of my friends were being dicks and yelling "where's anthony" and cove said something along the lines of "im the the only cove you are getting tonight so deal with it" and went on. i later told my friend he was an asshole
i heard some guy say we love you cove, didn't hear anything about anthony. cove said, "are you talking to me? i guess i'm the only cove here, so i love you too." and he seriously rocked, and is the nicest guy. i talked to him afterwards and he gave me a sticker and signed it cause he didn't wanna mess up my jacket. i told him that he's got huge shoes to fill and he's doing amazing and he was so greatful. cove is tite. respect.
Burnout2888
12/02/04, 06:10 PM
i heard some guy say we love you cove, didn't hear anything about anthony. cove said, "are you talking to me? i guess i'm the only cove here, so i love you too." and he seriously rocked, and is the nicest guy. i talked to him afterwards and he gave me a sticker and signed it cause he didn't wanna mess up my jacket. i told him that he's got huge shoes to fill and he's doing amazing and he was so greatful. cove is tite. respect.
Cove is amazing. He was like "Wow, you were like one of few to know all the words." He gave me a sticker too... but didn't sign it =/
But then again, I didn't ask.
GAD_guy
12/02/04, 06:28 PM
anybody else just completely lost intrest in a new finch album?
AsheyLarryRXB
12/02/04, 07:04 PM
its amazing some bands still play some of their big songs.. goldfinger has been playing "here in your bedroom" for 10 years now.. same with rancid, playing ruby soho every night for the past decade..
midtown also refuses to play 'just rock and roll'. some bands just get sick of their songs, its natural. imagine listening to a song u loved 10 years ago.. imagine still listening to it every day.
i just saw midtown 2 weeks ago and they closed with just rock and roll
SilentNight
12/02/04, 07:29 PM
anybody else just completely lost intrest in a new finch album?
nope
somebodypunchme
12/02/04, 07:54 PM
i just saw midtown 2 weeks ago and they closed with just rock and roll
saw um in the summer when only 15 people showed up (retarted promoters) and kids asked them to play it and it was a big no.
MickeyHater
12/02/04, 10:11 PM
Didn't Finch start off as a Deftones cover band??? I could be totally wrong, but I thought they did.
FinchBulldog2
12/02/04, 10:56 PM
Saosin > Finch.....Finch's New Stuff < Finch's Old Stuff
Ya a band who hasn't released a full length yet is better than a solid band about to release their second.
Sorry but Finch is a better band.
FinchBulldog2
12/02/04, 10:59 PM
2055? Isn't that when the Guns N Roses Chinese Democracy record comes out?
Ya that's also when Further Seems Forever will find a singer that will actually stay with the band.
FinchBulldog2
12/02/04, 11:07 PM
Didn't Finch start off as a Deftones cover band??? I could be totally wrong, but I thought they did.
I'm not positive...I know their first name was Numb and Awake was the first song they ever wrote. If they were a Deftones cover band they'd probably have a name that was a reference to one of their songs and I think their guitars would be lower than D flat.
interesting fact: Loudermilk started out covering guns n roses.
two_days_slow
12/03/04, 01:59 AM
there new singer cove doesnt deserve to be in saosin.. im mean look at his old band (purevolume.com/mormoninthemiddle) and tell me this guy deserves saosin.
Hey bro, that was a bunch of friends and his highschool band. Not everyone has been in a multi-platinum band since they day they stated like you. Guess you'll have to settle with your Usher or Miss Spears.
XlenceOfXecution
12/03/04, 08:50 AM
yeah...they kinda played 3 new songs sept. 10th in SF....so eat that shite!
heavy loads
12/04/04, 01:14 AM
Hey bro, that was a bunch of friends and his highschool band. Not everyone has been in a multi-platinum band since they day they stated like you. Guess you'll have to settle with your Usher or Miss Spears.
give it up douche
JnXmeSmthngKrzy
12/05/04, 08:59 PM
[QUOTE=payforglory]last time i saw them nobody seemed to be into the new stuff at all. thank god counterfit and recover played.
QUOTE]
hah. my favorite is how EVERYONE is into every single old song and as soon as they play new stuff its silent and still. now maybe they just dont know the new stuff... but theres a huge difference in the crowds reaction
I have seen finch three times. The last time was at the glasshouse last weekend. I just wanna say that they sucked. You should judge a band like Finch by how crazy the fans are going and most people were pretty bummed out. Finch played mostly new stuff, changing tunning in the middle of songs, taking the distortion off the guitars and slowing everything down. The only old songs they played sounded like shit because they either changed them or played them badly. The worst part of the show was how they acted between songs. They acted like complete douce bags, making fun of the scene and the audience and generally acting like little spoiled brats who want to make their new kind of music and dont care what the fans think.
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