My Heart's In Your Hand, I Won't Let You...Dieeee!!

[TJ Wells]

Go here (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1494453/20041202/mc_lars_horris.jhtml?headlines=true ) to read an article on MC Lars (http://www.mclars.com)' new video for "Signing Emo".

[yellow sunday]

is it just me or does he suckkkkkkkk, i would never post this.

[Jared Kaufman]

is it just me or does he suckkkkkkkk, i would never post this.
That's why you don't workkkkkkkk herrrrrrreeeeeeee. Even if we didn't like this, we'd still post about it. We may post about a lot of bands we don't personally enjoy, but we still put the news up due to the fact that we're sure some of our visitors enjoy that artist/band. ESPN covers bowling and I'm sure that's not blowing their NFL coverage away, but they still feature it 'cause it draws some of their viewers.

[PlanetThursday]

Overrated yes. Postworthy yes. Meh

[chimpo]

"The term I've come up with is post-punk laptop rap," he explained. "It's like post-punk, in terms of not necessarily [being] punk. The laptop is the computer element. And the rap — that's the real explanation, but when people ask what it sounds like, I usually just say, 'It's like the Bloodhound Gang with emo influences.' "

Yes make more genres to divide and label music even more than it already is. This guy says "look at us we are so different" quoting his fake band hearts that hate. well I think he is trying to get that same message out himself. look at me i am different!!!! post-punk laptop rap !!! what the hell??? And in my opinion he is no where close to the bloodhoung gang. I know there are many bands trying to make it. Many of them lack talent, and originality, but if your going to make fun them at least have some TALENT yourself. I dont think that we need this type of stuff out on cd's I mean the music "indusrty" is bad as it is. PLEASE PEOPLE DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THIS CRAP, but if you are still going to listen to it do it for free download his stuff on purevolume.

How you like that i even helped him by telling people to check him out on purevolume.

'The [emo] scene's not unique anymore,' says the rapper.-MC Lars

--chimpo

[marrost]

I wish you guys would post about decent rap half as much as you post about this guy.

[ninalp]

absolute PUNK. no rap.

and is it just me, but i feel like MC Lars makes fun of this genre that you have created a whole site in dedication to. why would you want to promote him?

[Jared Kaufman]

absolute PUNK. no rap.

and is it just me, but i feel like MC Lars makes fun of this genre that you have created a whole site in dedication to. why would you want to promote him?
You feel he sampled Piebald and Brand New to make fun of them? "Signing Emo" is poking fun of the copycats and those making this kind of music for the dollar signs. I'm sure there are numerous bands out there you can't believe got signed or make music other than the reasoning that some label saw the fact kids would eat it up just getting into this latest trend. By the way, absolutePUNK is just the name of the site. We can post about ANY kind of music we want to, especially something like this where influences come from punk/emo and so on. I don't know how many times I can elaborate this, but maybe you missed it (taken from our FAQ page):

No, we are not the classic "old school definition" of punk. We aren't for anarchy; however, we do believe in the new political movement and are for social and political change. Not all of the music we post about fits the old definition of punk, and not all of the music we post about even fits the ever evolving new definition of punk. We don't care. If it makes you feel any better: nothing on this website is punk, nothing we talk about is punk, and the only reason we have the domain name is because the music style is the evolution of what was once called "punk music." This topic is over used, over analyzed, and over done. The only people who still care are either 45, balding, and still attending the same shows - or - 15, living out of their parents trailer park, and it takes them 3 hours to put all of the metal into their faces in the morning. Basically: get over it.

[Ambulance X]

is it just me or does he suckkkkkkkk, i would never post this.

absolute PUNK. no rap.

and is it just me, but i feel like MC Lars makes fun of this genre that you have created a whole site in dedication to. why would you want to promote him?

Yes, this guy does suck, why this site whores this guy like they do i will never understand, but it is ridiculous.

And i agree this is absolutepunk.net forget the shitty rap. Not only is it not punk, but the genre itself shouldn't even be considered music

[marrost]

the genre itself shouldn't even be considered music
Don't be a fucking idiot or you'll get schooled.

[make_this_hurt]

Don't be a fucking idiot or you'll get schooled.

Exactly.

I dislike most rap/hip-hop, but only because it's content is pathetically materialistic and mediocore. I can't stand most modern rap because of this. However, you shouldn't disrespect the rappers who wrote what is really equated to poetry (i.e. 2Pac, B.I.G.) Who wrote about oppression, change, hope, and revolution. To ignore them would be to do ignore the igniters of an entire sub-culture of change and hope for so many, and would be on the scale of ignore Bob Dylan's influence on modern rock/folk.

Rap in it's current form is, well, somewhat depressing. It's become the figurehead of a black (and increasingly white) culture that only cares about money and sex. But to say "all rap sucks" is pathetically close minded. Rap is poetry. And poetry is art. And just liek with all forms of art, it's distorted, changed, and made sickeningly mainstream. But to deny people with legitimate talent with words the respect they deserve only makes you look pathetic.

Get over it people. Most of the "rap" posts on this site are legit (i.e. Eminem). Get over yourself. "Punk" isn't the only type of music out there worth listening to. Culture yourself people, and stop it with the musical bigotry.

And yes, MC Lars isn't hte greatest, deepest rapper. But who cares? He is poking fun at a genre that is getting more and more watered down with music executives and copy-cats. No one ever proclaimed him as some amazing musician. He writes pop/rap songs that are nothing more than simple, fun, and often funny critiques of the society YOU live in.

Grow up people.

[chimpo]

i just dont like him.

[Ambulance X]

Don't be a fucking idiot or you'll get schooled.

I don't consider it music. Music should contain instrumentation (such as guitar, drums, bass, cello, violin, flute ect.) and meaningful lyrics. Not solely synthesizers and crappy background beats with someone talking in rhythem in the foreground, and not lyrics such as "I like james brown, and Beyonce's butt" that's just shit.

[herminology]

i like him...thanks for the post

[marrost]

Exactly.

I dislike most rap/hip-hop, but only because it's content is pathetically materialistic and mediocore. I can't stand most modern rap because of this. However, you shouldn't disrespect the rappers who wrote what is really equated to poetry (i.e. 2Pac, B.I.G.) Who wrote about oppression, change, hope, and revolution. To ignore them would be to do ignore the igniters of an entire sub-culture of change and hope for so many, and would be on the scale of ignore Bob Dylan's influence on modern rock/folk.

Rap in it's current form is, well, somewhat depressing. It's become the figurehead of a black (and increasingly white) culture that only cares about money and sex. But to say "all rap sucks" is pathetically close minded. Rap is poetry. And poetry is art. And just liek with all forms of art, it's distorted, changed, and made sickeningly mainstream. But to deny people with legitimate talent with words the respect they deserve only makes you look pathetic.

Get over it people. Most of the "rap" posts on this site are legit (i.e. Eminem). Get over yourself. "Punk" isn't the only type of music out there worth listening to. Culture yourself people, and stop it with the musical bigotry.

And yes, MC Lars isn't hte greatest, deepest rapper. But who cares? He is poking fun at a genre that is getting more and more watered down with music executives and copy-cats. No one ever proclaimed him as some amazing musician. He writes pop/rap songs that are nothing more than simple, fun, and often funny critiques of the society YOU live in.

Grow up people.
Listen to this man. I couldn't have said it better.

[marrost]

I don't consider it music. Music should contain instrumentation (such as guitar, drums, bass, cello, violin, flute ect.) and meaningful lyrics. Not solely synthesizers and crappy background beats with someone talking in rhythem in the foreground, and not lyrics such as "I like james brown, and Beyonce's butt" that's just shit.
Since when are "beats" not music. They are the fucking foundation of music.

[Kamtin Mohager]

That's Ma Dawg!!!!!!!!!!

[el_flasho]

another vote here for suck.

oh and that heartsthathate.com site would be funny if it actually looked like a real site and not something thrown together by a 12 year old. it'd be funny to have an emo parody band that people actually believed was real and got into and shit.

[Ambulance X]

Since when are "beats" not music. They are the fucking foundation of music.

music n.
The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.

Rap does not posses the qualities of harmony, or melody.

[InaGreendase]

music n.
The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.

Rap does not posses the qualities of harmony, or melody.

Rap can definitely be melodic. I can't stand about 99.999% of the artists in the genre myself, but it's still legitimate music.

[cheeruptheEmo]

Rap=crap!

[chriscac28]

:ugly7:

i think that best sums up the closed-minded posts prevalent throughout this thread

[marrost]

Rap=crap!
One of your favorite bands, Big D and the Kids Table, raps. Proceed to eat a dick.

[ThriftWhore]

"OMG my opinion matterz lyke soOoOo much moore than urz"

thats every thread under a news post.

[JAX]

Lucky is the only word to describe MCLARS

[SkaBum14]

So when MC Lars performs live does he have a have a posse of 34 guys walking around the stage spinning towels in the air and randomly yelling "uh!" "what!" and "yo!", too? That would be hilarious.


I like rap too and consider it a valid form of music. I think Lil Jon and all the "we all up in the club poppin' cris and bangin' hoes, hey! look at my rims, ain't they big?" rappers are ruining it for the legitimate, talented rappers out there, though.

[KarateExplosion]

That's why you don't workkkkkkkk herrrrrrreeeeeeee. Even if we didn't like this, we'd still post about it. We may post about a lot of bands we don't personally enjoy, but we still put the news up due to the fact that we're sure some of our visitors enjoy that artist/band. ESPN covers bowling and I'm sure that's not blowing their NFL coverage away, but they still feature it 'cause it draws some of their viewers.
PBA members have talent. this douche does not. with the THOUSANDS of punk bands out there (you have to admit, you post about a small fraction) and the dozens of other non-punk artists, i.e. damien rice, vanessa carlton, etc. that you post about, you could find plentiful material to cover on artists that actually have talent instead of posting about a no-talent hack with the most annoying voice since mc paul barman but one quarter of the lyrical skill. your logic is flawed. if you try and say mc lars has talent compared to the plethora of other pop/rap acts in the world that you choose not to cover (and hypocritically so) you're lying to yourself. the man blows ass. just let him fade away.

[ThriftWhore]

I like rap too and consider it a valid form of music. I think Lil Jon and all the "we all up in the club poppin' cris and bangin' hoes, hey! look at my rims, ain't they big?" rappers are ruining it for the legitimate, talented rappers out there, though.
I disagree, I find Lil' Jon fucking great, more hilarious. Every beat he creates is quite nice.

[Ambulance X]

PBA members have talent. this douche does not. with the THOUSANDS of punk bands out there (you have to admit, you post about a small fraction) and the dozens of other non-punk artists, i.e. damien rice, vanessa carlton, etc. that you post about, you could find plentiful material to cover on artists that actually have talent instead of posting about a no-talent hack with the most annoying voice since mc paul barman but one quarter of the lyrical skill. your logic is flawed. if you try and say mc lars has talent compared to the plethora of other pop/rap acts in the world that you choose not to cover (and hypocritically so) you're lying to yourself. the man blows ass. just let him fade away.

I second that

[ninalp]

You feel he sampled Piebald and Brand New to make fun of them? "Signing Emo" is poking fun of the copycats and those making this kind of music for the dollar signs. I'm sure there are numerous bands out there you can't believe got signed or make music other than the reasoning that some label saw the fact kids would eat it up just getting into this latest trend. By the way, absolutePUNK is just the name of the site. We can post about ANY kind of music we want to, especially something like this where influences come from punk/emo and so on. I don't know how many times I can elaborate this, but maybe you missed it (taken from our FAQ page):



you can do whatever you want, obviously its your site not mine. i'm just saying that as a "newbie" coming to this site i have a very reasonable expectation to read about a certain type of music. also, i thought this was a forum, where people can express their opinions about about things like (dare i say it) what you should and should not post. thank you for correcting us, one newbie at a time, from now on i will be aware that this really is absolute-music-jared-kaufman-likes.

[hinkelmanf]

he's no MC Chris

[SkaBum14]

I disagree, I find Lil' Jon fucking great, more hilarious. Every beat he creates is quite nice.

His beats aren't terrible and yeah, he is hilarious, but I still can't stand him. Every single song that's out now that he's made beats for uses the same keyboard sound/tone and it's the same 4 notes in each song, just put in a different order (Yeah w/ Usher, Get Low, Freek-a-Leek for Petey Pablo, that song for Ciara, and the list goes on). At least mix it up a little by using a different sound in your beats every once and a while. Plus, he named his new album after his new energy drink he's trying to push, the same drink he also served at his own wedding. That's just dumb.

[yc_mest]

im not a fan at all of mclars but out of respect for those who do like him thats why they post it. obviously not every band on here that they post everyones gonna love. plus when a lot of people seem to hate a band the thread gets huge

[gergs]

I don't consider it music. Music should contain instrumentation (such as guitar, drums, bass, cello, violin, flute ect.) and meaningful lyrics. Not solely synthesizers and crappy background beats with someone talking in rhythem in the foreground, and not lyrics such as "I like james brown, and Beyonce's butt" that's just shit.

All righty, I'm going to reply to many a different items at once. First things first. Rap/hip hop is music. Like many different forms of music, it gets sucked up by MTV and in it's case BET and they make an industry out of it. It takes the soul and actual musicianship out of it and replaces it with catch-phrases used by moronic jocks and frat boys (example: Yeah, okay, and pretty much everything Dave Chappelle used to make fun of Lil Jon is still used). It's sad, it really is, because there is a decent amount of actual hip hop bands that play their own instruments and actually have lyrics that don't tread into the hos and rims that are prevalent throughout rap. Check out Heiruspecs, the Roots, Atmosphere, anything from the Rhymesayers Record Label for an idea of what rap is.

As fans of "punk" or "emo" or whatever you wanna call it, we can't really call someone out for getting ahead in the industry. Look at some of the bands we used to like before it became uncool to do so, Blink 182, Yellowcard, New Found Glory, and dare I even say Good Charlotte? Yes, I don't know about you people but I like their music. Yet we bemoan the fact that MC Lars is getting ahead in the industry. Big friggin' deal I say. The industry goes around creating celebrities everyday, at least MC Lars does his own thing, it's original and it's his. He hasn't had someone writing his lyrics for him and hasn't had someone creating the background music for him. So give him that much credit.

By the way, if you expect only one style of music from a website that is trying their damndest to broaden people's musical tastes (and doing a fairly good job with it too), then I suggest this: start listening to some other styles of music. I listen to hip hop music (Atmosphere, the Roots, Ugly Duckling), have an undying love for musicals (Rent, Guys and Dolls), rock out to 80s music frequently (Journey, Quiet Riot, Bon Jovi, Aha) and even listen to pop music every now and again (NSync, O-Town, 2Gether). Does this make me any less knowledgable in the music scene that is prevalent on this site? No. I'm just as scene as you. I suggest trying to find some maturity in your own tastes to accept other styles of music. This site isn't "punk", it's something they've said for a long time now. Yet we're still pissing and moaning about how this site isn't "punk" enough. While we're sitting here at our computers pitching a bitch, the staff of this site is going out and collecting news for our benefit. They're out there making a difference in the scene, and we bitch at them for it.

Everyone seriously needs to take a deep breath, realize that everyone else's opinion is just as valid as their own, and step down from their high horse. If you don't like MC Lars, cool, that's respectable, but do you think maybe you should respect someone's opinion if they do like MC Lars? Honestly I'm sick of people in forums saying "oh, you're a fan of New Found Glory, therefore your opinion is invalid" in a dumbed down way.

If you don't look at any of this post and just read past everything I've said up until this point, realize that there is some damn good rap out there. Check out the Rhymesayers label if you want to look into it instead of sitting there and continuing to be blinded by your own ignorance to a genre of music.

[KarateExplosion]

gergs, you just tried to justify liking mc lars, and therefore... your opinion is invalid.

[intoyourarms]

how about we have a thread where a band doesn't get bashed every 5 minutes for the stupidest damn critiques? holy shit some guy used a laptop and make some pretty catchy beats. its not the most technical form of music but its fun and apparently some people enjoy it. if you don't want to discuss the music then no one cares that you hate this band.

[intoyourarms]

eyedea & abilities was one of the most enjoyable shows ive been to in a while.

[SwedishHeat]

he's no MC Chris

I said this a while ago and nobody knew what I was talking about. You sir, are an educated person.

and even listen to pop music every now and again (NSync, O-Town, 2Gether). Does this make me any less knowledgable in the music scene that is prevalent on this site?

Wasn't 2Gether that fake pop band that had a show on MTV?? With the fat old bald guy as the "Older Brother" . . . haha, I remember that show . . no, not really.

[MDR]

non-prophets | non-prophets | non-prophets

[evilnew46]

it's awesome that he's stirred up so much shit on this site. for that alone he should be given props for making us look ourselves. good art is challenging art.