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Brit_Ben
12/08/04, 12:22 PM
Was gona make a poll for this but duno how to make em. Just wondering how many people here think that skinheads are all racist etc and why. Because it seems that everyone seems to think skins are racist and politicaly facist even nazi! just wonderin what people think.

venus/bacchus
12/08/04, 12:25 PM
I can't say I know much about skinheads, but isn't racism in the definition?

Bishop
12/08/04, 12:27 PM
Aren't those guys who look like skinheads but are actually against all forms of racism and the like?

Either way, those Nazi's suck. I can't understand why a person would have so much hate inside of them.

dayafterdayroks
12/08/04, 12:34 PM
all i know is the last day after day concert i went to there was like 8 skinheads and they were hatin on day after day and being really gay... so yea i am no fan of them....

Brit_Ben
12/09/04, 06:35 AM
well skinheads have always been portrayed as recists in films like romper stomper etc. but skinhead was a movement from the 60's, not 70's which was anti-racist. Im a skinhead and i get shit all the time from pple saying im racist when im firmly anti-racist. Theres many organisations such as SHARP (skins against racial prejudice) around as well.

Just tryin to suss why its such a label skins are racist, ive heard of bout 3 racist skin bands and an uncountable number of skin bands that are not. Is all a bit odd.

UndefinedBoy
12/09/04, 09:48 AM
well skinheads have always been portrayed as recists in films like romper stomper etc. but skinhead was a movement from the 60's, not 70's which was anti-racist. Im a skinhead and i get shit all the time from pple saying im racist when im firmly anti-racist. Theres many organisations such as SHARP (skins against racial prejudice) around as well.

Just tryin to suss why its such a label skins are racist, ive heard of bout 3 racist skin bands and an uncountable number of skin bands that are not. Is all a bit odd.

I wouldn't call it just a false portrayal...here's what dictionary.com has to say:

Skinhead: n. Slang

1. A person with a shaven head.
2. A member of any of various groups of people, especially young people, who shave their heads and sometimes participate in white-supremacist and anti-immigrant activities.

Love As Arson
12/09/04, 09:51 AM
Any white guy that shaves off all of his hair is stupid in my opinion.

Brit_Ben
12/10/04, 08:17 AM
Any white guy that shaves off all of his hair is stupid in my opinion.

so your saying because of someones race and haircut that makes them stupid??? well done.......

Love As Arson
12/10/04, 08:59 AM
so your saying because of someones race and haircut that makes them stupid??? well done.......
Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.

pjtunes91
12/10/04, 09:20 AM
It's a subculture that came about shortly after the whole Mod scene died out. Not all skins are racists; the racist factor actually went into it in the 70s/80s. I actually know a black skinhead here, and have seen many others at shows. The Dropkick Murphys were (or maybe still are) skins, I believe.

BrandNew20
12/10/04, 09:51 AM
White dudes with shaved heads isn't a good look, in my opinion.

Brit_Ben
12/10/04, 12:27 PM
White dudes with shaved heads isn't a good look, in my opinion.

guess im outa fashion then!!! ive met bloody tonnes of skins n ive only ever met 2 racist ones n they wernt near a gig or near any others just lone wankers.

in the 70's/80's there was a nazi band called skrewdriver who had a big following, but a lot of their supporters just went along for the crack not for the racism. The labels so strong its just i duno were its come from coz most people ive spoke to havent even seen a skin before just make the assumption.

BrandNew20
12/10/04, 12:34 PM
guess im outa fashion then!!!

honestly, if you can pull of the look more power to you man, I've just never seen it done and look right.

Brit_Ben
12/10/04, 12:57 PM
fair nough, by skinhead as well i dont mean slaphead, like cropped hair. like so many british footballers u see n fans (sept the poofy trendy ones)

aminorthreat55
12/10/04, 09:09 PM
I have a good amount of friends in Ireland, England, Northern Ireland, etc. The white guy with a shaved head is a hell of a lot more common over there than it is here.

sleepygrlgreen
12/11/04, 01:36 PM
A few times I spoke to kid online who claimed that he was a skinhead. He might have shown me a picture of himself once. Scrawny little white kid with a shaved head, wore an army-type getup....the whole shabang, including the horrible attitude/personality. But ya, he was a racist prick and thought waay too highly of himself. He was god and anyone else was inferior to him.

Whether or not that defines a skinhead...I'm not really sure, but he's the only person that i've ever met to call himself one.

richter915
12/11/04, 06:32 PM
maybe it's cause skinheads are often associated with neo-nazis (not sure why, I just think that it's the same even though it isn't). Maybe because the world judges the entire group based on the actions of the few. Not all black people beat their wives and eat fried chicken...not all mexicans mow lawns and work at taco bell...not all brown people eat stinky food and wear turbans (well...we do eat really stinky food)...but ya, that's something about the world that'll never change.

maybe it's the belief that since skinheads are anti-racism...they'd like to live in a world that is clearly segregated so that racism doesn't exist? That's an extreme view it but it's a possibility.

sleepygrlgreen
12/11/04, 08:02 PM
maybe it's cause skinheads are often associated with neo-nazis (not sure why, I just think that it's the same even though it isn't). Maybe because the world judges the entire group based on the actions of the few. Not all black people beat their wives and eat fried chicken...not all mexicans mow lawns and work at taco bell...not all brown people eat stinky food and wear turbans (well...we do eat really stinky food)...but ya, that's something about the world that'll never change.

maybe it's the belief that since skinheads are anti-racism...they'd like to live in a world that is clearly segregated so that racism doesn't exist? That's an extreme view it but it's a possibility.


hmm...interesting POV.

kchubb
12/11/04, 08:09 PM
dumbest thread ever...

The Bled 13
12/11/04, 08:14 PM
I was reading an article about a Skinhead record label and it was pretty disgusting what type of "morals" they were teaching, oh well.

What other bands are considered "skinheads?"

pjtunes91
12/11/04, 08:24 PM
I was reading an article about a Skinhead record label and it was pretty disgusting what type of "morals" they were teaching, oh well.

What other bands are considered "skinheads?"
Check it. (http://oi.home.mindspring.com/bands.html)

kchubb
12/11/04, 08:53 PM
bouncing souls are skin heads?

The Bled 13
12/11/04, 09:06 PM
Yeah, but are they like the racist skin heads and shit?

sleepygrlgreen
12/11/04, 09:33 PM
huh.... i had no idea.

Shoes
12/13/04, 08:24 AM
i doubt it, the bouncing souls were on some anti nazi show way back. it just happens that them and dropkicks are on the links

Brit_Ben
12/13/04, 02:41 PM
the are, like dropkicks n a few from floggin molly. theres 2 racist skin labels from america, the leader of ones just been arested, but theres tonnes of anti-racist skinhead labels. at the business sat night (a v big skin band) one guy had a nazi shirt on n micky fitz the singer from em told the guy to piss of n get out of the gig n as soon as everyone realised his shirt he was out straight away.

A tiny amout of skins are racist, like in any groups u get racists, sexists etc. if u goto a dropkick murpheys or molly gig i asure u there will be skins there n both bands members are firmly against racism. Most poeple develop ideas bout skins like this because there known to be violent etc, but when it comes to standing up for yourself and especialy friendship skins are very strong about it.

u cant say souls arnt skin related coz they played an anti-nazi show coz skin bands do that sorta thing as well. the souls are very street punk/ bit oi like coz they sing about friendship n their lives exactly like st punk n oi bands.

Shoes
12/13/04, 03:49 PM
no i meant the bouncing souls aren't racist skins

The Bled 13
12/16/04, 11:30 AM
Haha, yeah I saw some "skinhead" profiles on that Myspace thing. I don't think they are racist, but they are strong anti-communist. And they all look like Lumberjack's haha. They all like shitty music too such as Blood For Blood, Madball, Crown Of Thronz and Skarhead.

richter915
12/16/04, 02:30 PM
Haha, yeah I saw some "skinhead" profiles on that Myspace thing. I don't think they are racist, but they are strong anti-communist. And they all look like Lumberjack's haha. They all like shitty music too such as Blood For Blood, Madball, Crown Of Thronz and Skarhead.
what's wrong with communism? it looks nice on paper and uhm...ok there's a lot wrong with communism...it did provide strong arguments against capitalism which would apply back in 1850...communism in the modern world just can't work due to capitalisms dominance.

aminorthreat55
12/16/04, 02:58 PM
what's wrong with communism? it looks nice on paper and uhm...ok there's a lot wrong with communism...it did provide strong arguments against capitalism which would apply back in 1850...communism in the modern world just can't work due to capitalisms dominance.
And it kind of goes against human nature and the widely accepted ideas of Social Darwinism.

richter915
12/16/04, 03:33 PM
And it kind of goes against human nature and the widely accepted ideas of Social Darwinism.
and that's what led to the downfall of it...I know...human's innate nature to be greedy (don't say compete for better...because it's greed)...but ya that's why it didn't work in the soviet union along with many many other reasons...it's surviving in China because of China's high population...don't think you can say democracy is much better because India is just as populous and they're not doing much better. I dunno, I'm halfway through the communist manifesto...the first half is more of an attack on the lack of morals and ethics put on the bourgeoisie as a result of capital...it's logical but unrealistic.

sleepygrlgreen
12/18/04, 09:45 AM
and that's what led to the downfall of it...I know...human's innate nature to be greedy (don't say compete for better...because it's greed)...but ya that's why it didn't work in the soviet union along with many many other reasons...it's surviving in China because of China's high population...don't think you can say democracy is much better because India is just as populous and they're not doing much better. I dunno, I'm halfway through the communist manifesto...the first half is more of an attack on the lack of morals and ethics put on the bourgeoisie as a result of capital...it's logical but unrealistic.


heh heh. damn commie. all you need is that cccp jersey... and what do you know...you're getting it very, very soon.

Brit_Ben
12/20/04, 01:49 PM
Haha, yeah I saw some "skinhead" profiles on that Myspace thing. I don't think they are racist, but they are strong anti-communist. And they all look like Lumberjack's haha. They all like shitty music too such as Blood For Blood, Madball, Crown Of Thronz and Skarhead.

that aint skin music! skin musics like last resort, the business, floggin molly, dropkicks, anthing u can sing along n get drunk to i spose.

communism is shite, essentialy is facism.

Just_Insane
12/24/04, 06:04 AM
honestly, if you can pull of the look more power to you man, I've just never seen it done and look right.

The fashion police has spoken.......we have those here to (fashion police's). They stand at the square by the hot dog shop in the city by their cars all night trying to look cool and showing eachothers cars and shit to eachother. They used to kill punks in Sweden back in the days but i guess times has changed nowadays they just laugh and tell me my shorts are too long or my clothes to dark or something like that haha, and then they take a pic with their 3G cell phone and send to all their friends thinking they got me.

OiPunk
12/28/04, 02:04 AM
Not all skinheads are racists. The boneheads are fuckers for giving skins a bad name.

Never forget the Tads and the SHARPs because they are true skinheads.

richter915
12/29/04, 01:16 AM
what're tads and boneheads?

Shoes
12/29/04, 05:14 AM
they're strongly anti racists, usauly more mixed, like more black kids and a lot more ska.its what skinheads originally were like in the 70's/80's

OnLegendary21
12/29/04, 08:28 AM
Not all skinheads are racists. The boneheads are fuckers for giving skins a bad name.

Never forget the Tads and the SHARPs because they are true skinheads.

I think gay/bisexual men suck (WTF ARE THEY THINKING)
I think bisexual women don't suck for some reason possibly because they tend to be very hot and when they have sex with women it's more like they're "playing around"

Oh yeah and I didn't come in here to be emo I came in here because I was going to say "emo sucks and stop complaining"

You already did.

Just_Insane
12/29/04, 08:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OiPunk
I think gay/bisexual men suck (WTF ARE THEY THINKING)
I think bisexual women don't suck for some reason possibly because they tend to be very hot and when they have sex with women it's more like they're "playing around"

Oh yeah and I didn't come in here to be emo I came in here because I was going to say "emo sucks and stop complaining"

WTF are you thinking, what's the difference between prejudices because of someone's race and prejudices about someones sexuality!? And who gives a fuck what skincolur or sexuality someone has!?