Ryan Adams (Official Thread)

[sweetforever]

Discuss the greatness of Ryan Adams

[theghost134]

he is by far my favorite musician. genius through and through. new album info here (http://www.teletext.co.uk/planetsound/news/0ae6ad7ede8fe28759c93300625c31f9/Exclusive+Ryan's+new+LP.aspx)

on a sidenote does anyone want to sell me a copy of LOVE IS HELL 10" on vinyl? send me a pm if so.

[IWasaCamera]

Could have sworn there was already a thread. Anyway, Heartbreaker and Gold are really good. Never cared much for the rest barring the occasional song.

[HangsLikeHeaven]

Love him.

[Broden Terry]

In all seriousness, awesome musician, although I think Bryan Adams is better.

[wtfmates]

Really awesome musician.

[sweetforever]

Could have sworn there was already a thread. Anyway, Heartbreaker and Gold are really good. Never cared much for the rest barring the occasional song.

I made sure to search first, before I made the thread, and nothing came up :shrug:

I think Come Pick Me Up is one of his best songs. I agree with you on Heartbreaker, haven't heard Gold yet, probably will give that a listen later today.

[KatieKutthroat.]

You need to hear Gold. It's fantastic.

I looooove me some Ryan Adams.

[IWasaCamera]

I think Come Pick Me Up is one of his best songs. I agree with you on Heartbreaker, haven't heard Gold yet, probably will give that a listen later today.
Come Pick Me Up is quite good yes, but I'd go so far as calling it overrated when In My Time Of Need or Call Me On Your Way Back Home never get mentioned in the same breath. It's similar to those who find his Wonderwall cover to be the peak of his career. Gold is really good and far more of an upbeat offering from Adams. Do not expect another Heartbreaker.

I wish he was less prolific and adhered to a quality over quantity attitude. The bulk of his recent work has been mediocre.

[3mpire]

Call Me On Your Way Back Home is probably my favourite Adam's song. The harmonica part gets me every time.

I've been quite into some of the stuff from the Suicide Handbook bootleg recently.

[KatieKutthroat.]

In My Time of Need is one of my favorites.

[sweetforever]

Come Pick Me Up is quite good yes, but I'd go so far as calling it overrated when In My Time Of Need or Call Me On Your Way Back Home never get mentioned in the same breath. It's similar to those who find his Wonderwall cover to be the peak of his career. Gold is really good and far more of an upbeat offering from Adams. Do not expect another Heartbreaker.

I wish he was less prolific and adhered to a quality over quantity attitude. The bulk of his recent work has been mediocre.

Take into account, I've only heard Heartbreaker and Love Is Hell, I'm sure I'll find better songs by him when I finally listen to all his work. I'm going to give Gold a spin tonight.

[HangsLikeHeaven]

Why Do They Leave? is in my top 10 songs ever.

[KatieKutthroat.]

Why Do They Leave? is in my top 10 songs ever.

I remember when you didn't like ryan adams.

[HangsLikeHeaven]

We all don't like The Beatles out of the womb.

[HangsLikeHeaven]

But seriously, I'm still not too fond of the up-beat Ryan Adams.

[KatieKutthroat.]

We all don't like The Beatles out of the womb.
:-(

Sorry. I was just sayin'.

[HangsLikeHeaven]

:-(

Sorry. I was just sayin'.

I love you.

[KatieKutthroat.]

I love you.
You better.

Love you too, dear.

[sweetforever]

I love this man, he packs so much emotion into his songs.

[kearn1tm]

Gold is so, so close to being great. It's truly an amazing piece of contemporary Americana Pop. It's honestly on the cusp of doing, say, what Yankee Foxtrot Hotel did and became. So. Very. Close. It's an extremely good album that I'd imagine must be in the Top 10 of the decade when it becomes appropriate to compile such a list.

However, Adams suffers from the inability to be more conservative about his output. I believe (I'm not Adams, so I can't verify this at all) that the man (who's notorious for having a hot temper and a relatively large ego) just isn't able to accept that not every one of his songs, ideas and albums are good. He's prolific, but his quality-to-work ratio is disconcerting. Gold is his best effort. Echoing the generally accepted sentiment that Heartbreaker is his other seminal album, and the Love is Hell EPs are good (though certainly not of the level of the first two LPs). Other than the initial two albums and Love is Hell pts. 1-2, I'm hard pressed to find something that's really "good." Sure, the rest are decent (though some - 29 and Cold Roses - are subpar-to-bad), but it's as though he only had two nearly-great albums in him and two EPs worth of good.

[IWasaCamera]

Trim Gold's excess fat and it would be on par with Heartbreaker.

[kearn1tm]

Trim Gold's excess fat and it would be on par with Heartbreaker.

I find Gold to be slightly superior to Heartbreaker. Slightly.

[Jet Set Paul]

I actually really enjoyed Easy, Tiger.

Jacksonville City Nights and Demolition are both very good as well.

[3mpire]

The first half of Gold is extremely solid. If the "meh" songs from the second half were cut out, I reckon we'd have a way better album.

[FeynmanWannabe]

Trim Gold's excess fat and it would be on par with Heartbreaker.
Seconded, although I think I'd still prefer Heartbreaker slightly.

[doyouhas?]

i have second row tickets to see him like a month. im very excited, he might be my favorite artist. i know its cool to not like anything after gold, but i like most of the cds hes put out since(the exceptions being rock and roll and demolition). love as hell and cold roses are as strong as anything hes ever done and the others are fantastic too. i have a feeling lots of people will still be listening to him 40 years from now.

[IWasaCamera]

I find Gold to be slightly superior to Heartbreaker. Slightly.
That's fair. Both are really good.
Seconded, although I think I'd still prefer Heartbreaker slightly.
It'd be far closer at least.

[theghost134]

Gold is so, so close to being great. It's truly an amazing piece of contemporary Americana Pop. It's honestly on the cusp of doing, say, what Yankee Foxtrot Hotel did and became. So. Very. Close. It's an extremely good album that I'd imagine must be in the Top 10 of the decade when it becomes appropriate to compile such a list.

However, Adams suffers from the inability to be more conservative about his output. I believe (I'm not Adams, so I can't verify this at all) that the man (who's notorious for having a hot temper and a relatively large ego) just isn't able to accept that not every one of his songs, ideas and albums are good. He's prolific, but his quality-to-work ratio is disconcerting. Gold is his best effort. Echoing the generally accepted sentiment that Heartbreaker is his other seminal album, and the Love is Hell EPs are good (though certainly not of the level of the first two LPs). Other than the initial two albums and Love is Hell pts. 1-2, I'm hard pressed to find something that's really "good." Sure, the rest are decent (though some - 29 and Cold Roses - are subpar-to-bad), but it's as though he only had two nearly-great albums in him and two EPs worth of good.

I am very biased cause I don't think he's ever released a bad album (thats including rock n' roll) but 29 and cold roses are subpar to bad? you need to go and listen to them again and im not saying this in a your wrong way at all, im just suggesting you go back and really listen to them because i think 29 is incredibly strong in its storytelling and doesn't have a bad song. and out of all his records cold roses is the hardest song for me to pick a favorite track, part of that is due to the fact that there is no killer songs (ie: strawberry wine, the shadowlands, la cienega, half the songs on heartbreaker) but every song is so consistently good that its hard for me to see someone thinking it is a subpar album. anyway these are just thoughts from a one-sided, diehard adams fan.

[sweetforever]

Gold is an excellent record as well.

[IWasaCamera]

I am very biased cause I don't think he's ever released a bad album (thats including rock n' roll) but 29 and cold roses are subpar to bad? you need to go and listen to them again and im not saying this in a your wrong way at all, im just suggesting you go back and really listen to them because i think 29 is incredibly strong in its storytelling and doesn't have a bad song. and out of all his records cold roses is the hardest song for me to pick a favorite track, part of that is due to the fact that there is no killer songs (ie: strawberry wine, the shadowlands, la cienega, half the songs on heartbreaker) but every song is so consistently good that its hard for me to see someone thinking it is a subpar album. anyway these are just thoughts from a one-sided, diehard adams fan.
He's right though, both are subpar to say the very least.

[brianthomas7]

I didn't fully appreciate Cold Roses until I saw him live. Cold roses is definitely not subpar and some of his most dynamic "happy" song writing (clearly channeling The Grateful Dead throughout). I believe Magnolia Mountain is one of his favorite pieces.

[christopher™]

cold roses use to be the album i drove around to at night a few summers ago.

[kearn1tm]

I am very biased cause I don't think he's ever released a bad album (thats including rock n' roll) but 29 and cold roses are subpar to bad? you need to go and listen to them again and im not saying this in a your wrong way at all, im just suggesting you go back and really listen to them because i think 29 is incredibly strong in its storytelling and doesn't have a bad song. and out of all his records cold roses is the hardest song for me to pick a favorite track, part of that is due to the fact that there is no killer songs (ie: strawberry wine, the shadowlands, la cienega, half the songs on heartbreaker) but every song is so consistently good that its hard for me to see someone thinking it is a subpar album. anyway these are just thoughts from a one-sided, diehard adams fan.

No offense, but demanding I give these albums a relisten insinuates that I haven't "got" them upon the other spins I've dedicated to each respective album, and this is a rather arrogant and assumptive statement. I give every single Adams album many spins due to my affinity for Heartbreaker, Gold and (to a lesser extent) the Love is Hell eps. I find both 29 and Cold Roses to be exceedingly underwhelming, dare I say poor, especially in comparison to his earlier work and both stand out as his lesser works. Even Rock n' Roll is superior to these two efforts.

[fly_guy]

Just stop

[kearn1tm]

Just stop

Yeah?

[sweetforever]

:popcorn:

[IWasaCamera]

Yeah?
Yeah, stop replying to posts addressed to you. It's poor online etiquette.

[theghost134]

Your entitled to your opinion kearn1tm and i respect that, sorry for trying to push you into listening to them again. but no worries cause a new album on its way officially.

Oct. 28

RYAN ADAMS AND THE CARDINALS - CARDINOLOGY (LP)

Ryan Adams And The Cardinals Cardinology On Vinyl LP + Bonus 7" + Comic Book + Digital Download Code

Ryan Adams & The Cardinals are set to release their new album entitled Cardinology on Lost Highway Records. The release follow-ups 2005's Jacksonville City Lights and is the band's first album to be billed as soley The Cardinals. This vinyl version includes a bonus 7", a comic book and a digital download code.

The Cardinals Are :
Ryan Adams
Brad Pemberton
John Graboff
Neal Casal
Chris Feinstein

Ryan Adams And The Cardinals Cardinology Track Listing

1. Born Into A Light
2. Go Easy
3. Fix It
4. Magick
5. Cobwebs
6. Let Us Down Easy
7. Crossed Out Name
8. Natural Ghost
9. Sink Ships
10. Evergreen
11. Like Yesterday
12. Stop

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/83811

[abusedcat]

So stoked for the new record.

[kearn1tm]

Yeah, stop replying to posts addressed to you. It's poor online etiquette.

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Yeah?

[IWasaCamera]

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Yeah?
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Yeah.

[drudo182]

Your entitled to your opinion kearn1tm and i respect that, sorry for trying to push you into listening to them again. but no worries cause a new album on its way officially.

Oct. 28

RYAN ADAMS AND THE CARDINALS - CARDINOLOGY (LP)

Ryan Adams And The Cardinals Cardinology On Vinyl LP + Bonus 7" + Comic Book + Digital Download Code

Ryan Adams & The Cardinals are set to release their new album entitled Cardinology on Lost Highway Records. The release follow-ups 2005's Jacksonville City Lights and is the band's first album to be billed as soley The Cardinals. This vinyl version includes a bonus 7", a comic book and a digital download code.

The Cardinals Are :
Ryan Adams
Brad Pemberton
John Graboff
Neal Casal
Chris Feinstein

Ryan Adams And The Cardinals Cardinology Track Listing

1. Born Into A Light
2. Go Easy
3. Fix It
4. Magick
5. Cobwebs
6. Let Us Down Easy
7. Crossed Out Name
8. Natural Ghost
9. Sink Ships
10. Evergreen
11. Like Yesterday
12. Stop

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/83811



Okay, I just blew my load. Thank you for that news.

[kearn1tm]

...

Yeah.

Yep.

[IWasaCamera]

Yep.
Mmhmm.

[kearn1tm]

Your entitled to your opinion kearn1tm and i respect that, sorry for trying to push you into listening to them again. but no worries cause a new album on its way officially.




I aplogize as well, as I came across very defensive. I merely felt that it was presumptuous on your part to say that I needed to listen to it again to truly "get" the albums. I felt they were subpar efforts. You disagree and I understand completely.

[drudo182]

Cold Roses is classic.

[IcedOpethBlind]

love is hell, cold roses, heartbreaker, gold, rock n' roll

love all those.

[drudo182]

According to Last.FM, Easy Tiger is my most listened album overall. Kind of surprised.

http://www.last.fm/user/05061985

[IWasaCamera]

Barring a handful of songs, I found Easy Tiger remarkably dull.

[sweetforever]

I'm very excited for the new album. :woot:

[HangsLikeHeaven]

Isn't it just a handful of B-sides and unreleased tracks?

[IWasaCamera]

Doesn't matter since half of his recent material has been b-side quality anyway.

[sweetforever]

Isn't it just a handful of B-sides and unreleased tracks?

:shrug: Doesn't matter to me

[HangsLikeHeaven]

lol just sayin'

[drudo182]

Just heard a sample of "Fix It". Sounds so amazing. Cannot wait for Cardinology.

www.ryan-adams.com

[bonefacekillah]

saw him last night. amazing.

[sweetforever]

Just heard a sample of "Fix It". Sounds so amazing. Cannot wait for Cardinology.

www.ryan-adams.com (http://www.ryan-adams.com)


Fix It sounds excellent

[MovieManCorey]

I like this guy

[drudo182]

Fix It sounds excellent

I got a live version from a recent show and it's so amazing. Only song I want to hear before it comes out so I hope I can manage.

[Anthony Lutz]

"Sylvia Plath" is such a beautiful song.

[sweetforever]

New album is out there, what are people's thoughts?

[cryates]

its damn good

[IWasaCamera]

Haven't heard it. Low expectations though so I doubt I'll be disappointed.

[drudo182]

Got Cardinlogy today and love it. Seriously, Ryan Adams never disappoints.

[CellarGhosts]

Bump.

Really getting into his stuff lately; digging it alot. Sure, he sort of went for quantity over quality, but I enjoy everything I've heard from him thus far. Some more so than the rest, but still, solid stuff.

[Dr. Acula]

Got Cardinlogy today and love it. Seriously, Ryan Adams never disappoints.

I love Cardinology. I've seen it's gotton mixed reviews by people on this site but I absolutely love it. "Evergreen" and "Cobwebs" are beautiful.

[CellarGhosts]

I'd also like to show some appreciation for Cardinology. Sure, it's got it's weaker moments (not a big fan of "Magick") but all in all it's a solid effort. I'd say that so far, my favorite albums are Gold, Heartbreaker and Cold Roses.

[Dr. Acula]

I'd also like to show some appreciation for Cardinology. Sure, it's got it's weaker moments (not a big fan of "Magick") but all in all it's a solid effort. I'd say that so far, my favorite albums are Gold, Heartbreaker and Cold Roses.

3 of my all time favorites by him with Heartbreaker being my personal favorite. Good picks sir!

[CellarGhosts]

3 of my all time favorites by him with Heartbreaker being my personal favorite. Good picks sir!
Haha :bow:

Just out of curiosity, what did you think of Easy Tiger?

[Dr. Acula]

Ehhh...Easy Tiger has it's moments...but there also alot of filler songs that dont really do anything for me.

[Dr. Acula]

And there are some GREAT songs on the album....just not enough to warrant it a favorite of mine.

[CellarGhosts]

Ehhh...Easy Tiger has it's moments...but there also alot of filler songs that dont really do anything for me.
Gotcha. I think it's pretty good, but I don't listen to it as often as most of the others. Weakest Ryan Adams album, would you say? Or no? Just wondering haha. I'm trying to decide where to go next. So far I've got Gold, Heartbreaker, Rock N Roll, Easy Tiger, Cold Roses, Cardinology and Follow the Lights EP...

[Dr. Acula]

Cant forget about Love is Hell too! Another one of my favorites and I almost forget. DUUUH.

[Dr. Acula]

Gotcha. I think it's pretty good, but I don't listen to it as often as most of the others. Weakest Ryan Adams album, would you say? Or no? Just wondering haha. I'm trying to decide where to go next. So far I've got Gold, Heartbreaker, Rock N Roll, Easy Tiger, Cold Roses, Cardinology and Follow the Lights EP...

LOVE IS HELL. GET ON IT. haha.

[CellarGhosts]

LOVE IS HELL. GET ON IT. haha.
haha, I was thinking either that one or Jacksonville City Nights. I'll go with Love Is Hell for now.

[Dr. Acula]

Woohoo! If you like Oasis, he does a cover of "Wonderwall" which is pretty damn great. (track6 I believe) And I'm never really into hearing people cover songs but he makes it his own. Good enough to warrant praise from the Oasis guys themselves and we know how hard that is for them to do.:-)

[CellarGhosts]

Woohoo! If you like Oasis, he does a cover of "Wonderwall" which is pretty damn great. (track6 I believe) And I'm never really into hearing people cover songs but he makes it his own. Good enough to warrant praise from the Oasis guys themselves and we know how hard that is for them to do.:-)
Hahaha, true that. I've heard that cover before, and what Noel said about it. I dig it. Looking forward to hearing the rest of the album.

[Dr. Acula]

I'd also like to show some appreciation for Cardinology. Sure, it's got it's weaker moments (not a big fan of "Magick") but all in all it's a solid effort. I'd say that so far, my favorite albums are Gold, Heartbreaker and Cold Roses.

Let the record show, that most fans HATE this song with a burning passion (note: the lastfm page for this song, pretty funny shit) BUT I actually dont mind it at all. Sure, it's nothing special but I never skip the track when I listen to the record. Never bothers me like it does most.

[CellarGhosts]

Let the record show, that most fans HATE this song with a burning passion (note: the lastfm page for this song, pretty funny shit) BUT I actually dont mind it at all. Sure, it's nothing special but I never skip the track when I listen to the record. Never bothers me like it does most.
Haha, fair enough, man. It's an alright song, but it would probably be my pick for least favorite song on Cardinology.

[Dr. Acula]

Haha, fair enough, man. It's an alright song, but it would probably be my pick for least favorite song on Cardinology.

Totally agree.

[CellarGhosts]

Totally agree.
Cool cool. That one song aside, I dig the rest of that record. I don't really understand the hate it gets.

[Dr. Acula]

Cool cool. That one song aside, I dig the rest of that record. I don't really understand the hate it gets.

Yeah, it seems like one of those records people either loved or hated. Suprisingly, except for Pitchfork, it made alot of critics year end lists.

[CellarGhosts]

Yeah, it seems like one of those records people either loved or hated. Suprisingly, except for Pitchfork, it made alot of critics year end lists.
Hah, I remember reading some pretty split reviews for it. Didn't surprise me that Pitchfork weren't kind to it. They seem to enjoy taking jabs at him haha.

[Dr. Acula]

Hah, I remember reading some pretty split reviews for it. Didn't surprise me that Pitchfork weren't kind to it. They seem to enjoy taking jabs at him haha.

Yet hype Vampire Weekend. I'll take the worst Ryan Adams album over anything they've done. Which is ONE album.

[CellarGhosts]

Yet hype Vampire Weekend. I'll take the worst Ryan Adams album over anything they've done. Which is ONE album.
Haha, I'm with you there buddy. Vampire Weekend got a ton of hype so I figured I'd check them out and I just was not a fan.

[Dr. Acula]

A few ok songs but mostly forgettable for me.

[CellarGhosts]

A few ok songs but mostly forgettable for me.
Mhmm.

Btw, what do you feel is the worst Ryan Adams record?

[Dr. Acula]

Mhmm.

Btw, what do you feel is the worst Ryan Adams record?

Solo, Probably Rock N Roll.

With the Cardinals, probably Easy Tiger.

[CellarGhosts]

Solo, Probably Rock N Roll.

With the Cardinals, probably Easy Tiger.
I see. Yeah, alot of people dislike Rock N Roll. I like it for the most part, but it probably is my least favorite as well. I love "Do Miss America" and "Boys" though. "This Is It" is good too, but I like the Cardinals version alot more.

[Dr. Acula]

I see. Yeah, alot of people dislike Rock N Roll. I like it for the most part, but it probably is my least favorite as well. I love "Do Miss America" and "Boys" though. "This Is It" is good too, but I like the Cardinals version alot more.

I like both those songs...but I dont come back to that record often at all. Just doesnt do too much for me. Alot of it feels forced and weird. I cant explain it.

[CellarGhosts]

I like both those songs...but I dont come back to that record often at all. Just doesnt do too much for me. Alot of it feels forced and weird. I cant explain it.
No, I know what you're saying. It's a solid record, it just doesn't feel like "him". I guess that's how I'd put it.

[ohheroine]

saw him in 07. he told the audience to stop requesting songs or he would leave. they didnt. he left.

[Dr. Acula]

Hahahaha. Sounds like Ryan Adams.

[CellarGhosts]

Haha, yeah.

[Justin_stacy]

I never had a problem with Rock 'n' Roll, its certainly not his best work, but its not his worst either. Besides that its got my second favorite song by him on it...Wish You Were Here.

[CellarGhosts]

I never had a problem with Rock 'n' Roll, its certainly not his best work, but its not his worst either. Besides that its got my second favorite song by him on it...Wish You Were Here.
I think that's how I feel too. I don't know though. I can't really say since I haven't heard all his albums yet but of the ones I have, it probably is my least favorite.

"Wish You Were Here" is a good one, as are "Do Miss America", "Boys", and "This Is It". "Luminol" is pretty good too.

[Justin_stacy]

I think that's how I feel too. I don't know though. I can't really say since I haven't heard all his albums yet but of the ones I have, it probably is my least favorite.

"Wish You Were Here" is a good one, as are "Do Miss America", "Boys", and "This Is It". "Luminol" is pretty good too.

Someone once said in a review, that Ryan is one of those muscians that feels every song should be recorded and released regardless of quality. That to me sums Ryan up perfectly. Which means that while we get alot of new stuff, we also get alot of duds. His whole career is built on hit or misses.

I've downloaded all his albums at one point or another and the ones I've kept are: Cold Rose (his best in my opinion), Gold, Love Is Hell and Rock 'n' Roll.

[CellarGhosts]

Someone once said in a review, that Ryan is one of those muscians that feels every song should be recorded and released regardless of quality. That to me sums Ryan up perfectly. Which means that while we get alot of new stuff, we also get alot of duds. His whole career is built on hit or misses.

I've downloaded all his albums at one point or another and the ones I've kept are: Cold Rose (his best in my opinion), Gold, Love Is Hell and Rock 'n' Roll.
That sounds about right.

You don't like Heartbreaker?

[IWasaCamera]

Boy do I dislike everything since Gold.

[Dr. Acula]

Someone once said in a review, that Ryan is one of those muscians that feels every song should be recorded and released regardless of quality. That to me sums Ryan up perfectly. Which means that while we get alot of new stuff, we also get alot of duds. His whole career is built on hit or misses.

I've downloaded all his albums at one point or another and the ones I've kept are: Cold Rose (his best in my opinion), Gold, Love Is Hell and Rock 'n' Roll.

Heartbreaker, son!

[Justin_stacy]

Its not bad by any means, but the ones I listed are the ones I listen to with some regularity. When a singer releases a new album every year, and sometimes multiple albums a year, there's a limit to the number of albums I can justifiable keep on my IPOD.

He only has one album I can say I didn't like, 29, and Heartbreaker does have one of my favorite songs by him on it To Be Young (Is to Be Sad, Is to Be High), if that helps...?

[Dr. Acula]

Its not bad by any means, but the ones I listed are the ones I listen to with some regularity. When a singer releases a new album every year, and sometimes multiple albums a year, there's a limit to the number of albums I can justifiable keep on my IPOD.

He only has one album I can say I didn't like, 29, and Heartbreaker does have one of my favorite songs by him on it To Be Young (Is to Be Sad, Is to Be High), if that helps...?

So you would keep Rock n Roll over Heartbreaker? Insanity.

[Justin_stacy]

blah...I happen to like Rock 'n' roll.

[CellarGhosts]

So you would keep Rock n Roll over Heartbreaker? Insanity.
Haha.

blah...I happen to like Rock 'n' roll.
I do too, but still...I think Heartbreaker trumps it pretty easily. Fair enough though. You're entitled to your opinion/tastes.

Boy do I dislike everything since Gold.
:-(

[Praetor]

Rock & Roll is such a terrible record. My God is it awful.

Discography breaks down like this: Heartbreaker, Gold, Love is Hell, and the Suicide Handbook (I know it's not a real release, but whatever) are awesome, Cold Roses is great, Jacksonville City Nights and 29 are all right, Easy Tiger and Cardinology are bad, and Rock & Roll is an atrocity. I might be missing some but those are the only ones I have in my iTunes (not counting other sessions ie 48 Hours, Pinkheart, etc. and Demolition).

[Dr. Acula]

You forgot Love is Hell. Which is an awesome record.

[Dr. Acula]

Nevermind, I cant read.

[CellarGhosts]

nah, he's got Love Is Hell on there.

[Praetor]

Oh and Whiskeytown is amazing.

[IWasaCamera]

:-(
It's far too polished, hardly sounds like the same artist anymore.

[cobrakai]

heartbreaker rules," to be young" is my favorite song on that album.

[CellarGhosts]

It's far too polished, hardly sounds like the same artist anymore.
Ah, fair enough. I've got no complaints though.

[Liter-O-Cola]

Anyone else think Rosalie Come and Go from the Gold bonus disc is awesome enough to have been included on the actual album. I've been listening to that song a lot lately, it fuckin rocks.

[CellarGhosts]

It's a good song for sure. Dunno if I'd include it on the original album though. Just because I think the album's long enough as it is. I like every song on there, but still, it does feel a little lengthy. But whatever, I love it.

[Dr. Acula]

heartbreaker rules," to be young" is my favorite song on that album.

One of my favorite Ryan Adams songs from a great album.

[CellarGhosts]

Driving around today with the windows cracked and "New York, New York" up loud, ftw. Felt so sweet haha.

[Dr. Acula]

Hahaha!

[CellarGhosts]

Seriously, weather was pretty nice here today. Dunno about your neck of the woods, Eric, but I was enjoying it. Gold just enhanced the mood.

Then I went and got Wilco's Being There and then to show some more Adams love, got Jacksonville City Nights as well. all in all, I'd say today was a good day!

[Dr. Acula]

Sounds like a sweet day. And it was about 35 here...not quite crackin windows weather yet BUT Spring/Summer will be here soon dammit! Fuck these Midwest winters. Last way too long.

[CellarGhosts]

Haha word. It wasn't exactly Spring weather here, but it was close enough. Midwest winters for the lossss.

[Carlo Marx]

finally got heartbreaker. really diggin it.

[Dr. Acula]

finally got heartbreaker. really diggin it.

Score! :-) Glad youre enjoying it.

[CellarGhosts]

finally got heartbreaker. really diggin it.
Good call. It's an excellent album.

[Carlo Marx]

it's good, he's definitely channeling bob dylan on that record. i gotta say gold is still my favorite, though.

[CellarGhosts]

Gold is my favorite too. So good.

[Liter-O-Cola]

I'm a Cold Roses guy, that album is fantastic and Easy Plateau is my favorite Ryan Adams song. But there's no denying Gold is a classic.

[CellarGhosts]

Cold Roses is good too, but it gets a tad wearing for me to listen through the entire thing at once. It's not a bad record at all and I 'd be hard pressed to name a song on that album I feel is genuinely "bad", but I just prefer to listen to that album a few songs at a time.

[IWasaCamera]

it's good, he's definitely channeling bob dylan on that record.
On Heartbreaker? Interesting.

[Liter-O-Cola]

What's everyone listenin to today? Got any recommendations? Charlie, you still on your Wilco kick?

[Dr. Acula]

What's everyone listenin to today? Got any recommendations?

Check out some Frank Black "Teenager of the Year" or "Honeycomb". Also, Andrew Bird "Noble Beast"

[Dr. Acula]

I'm a Cold Roses guy, that album is fantastic and Easy Plateau is my favorite Ryan Adams song. But there's no denying Gold is a classic.

Im with ya. I love Cold Roses. As for my fav Ryan Adams album...I cant pick one because it changes on my mood between Gold-Heartbreaker-Love is Hell

[Liter-O-Cola]

I own and love Noble Beast, never heard Frank Black though, I'll check that out thanks.

I just started getting into the Silver Jews, really good indie/country-rock. Also, though it's not really Ryan Adams type music, "Alopecia" by Why? is my album of the day so far.

[Liter-O-Cola]

Didn't realize you meant Frank Black from the Pixies! Awesome, I haven't listened to any of his solo stuff

[Dr. Acula]

Didn't realize you meant Frank Black from the Pixies! Awesome, I haven't listened to any of his solo stuff

:-) get on it!

[IWasaCamera]

American Water is phenomenal.

Currently listening to Midlake - The Trials Of Von Occupanther

[Liter-O-Cola]

American Water is phenomenal.

Currently listening to Midlake - The Trials Of Von Occupanther

Just checked out "Roscoe" from that album. Sounds really good, I wish they had the whole album on last.fm...I'm getting a kind of Thom Yorke vibe from the vocals

[IWasaCamera]

The album is solid straight through, you won't regret picking it up. They have a new one due this year as well.

[drudo182]

finally got heartbreaker. really diggin it.

Yeah, great album.

My favorite solo is Demolition, I'd say. Favorite Cardinals release is kind of tough. Probably Jacksonville City Nights.

[CellarGhosts]

Yeah, great album.

My favorite solo is Demolition, I'd say. Favorite Cardinals release is kind of tough. Probably Jacksonville City Nights.
Just picked up Jacksonville City Nights yesterday, really solid. "The End" would probably be my favorite track.

[drudo182]

Just picked up Jacksonville City Nights yesterday, really solid. "The End" would probably be my favorite track.

Beautiful album. "The End" is good but "September" is easily my favorite. Love the lyrics.



Laura lays on the foot of the bed
Mimics a noose with the telephone cord
Doctor's on the phone
And she hangs up and says
"I ain't never gonna see the winter again"
Then, I don't know how, but she smiles

September, September
September, September

They carved your name into a stone and then they put it in the ground,
I run my fingers through the grooves
When no one's around
Drink till I am sick and I talk to myself in the dog days of the summer
And I feel you coming but I don't know how

[CellarGhosts]

Beautiful album. "The End" is good but "September" is easily my favorite. Love the lyrics.



Laura lays on the foot of the bed
Mimics a noose with the telephone cord
Doctor's on the phone
And she hangs up and says
"I ain't never gonna see the winter again"
Then, I don't know how, but she smiles

September, September
September, September

They carved your name into a stone and then they put it in the ground,
I run my fingers through the grooves
When no one's around
Drink till I am sick and I talk to myself in the dog days of the summer
And I feel you coming but I don't know how
"September" is excellent too. I also really like the lyrics to "Pa" alot.

[drudo182]

"September" is excellent to. I also really like the lyrics to "Pa" alot.

Ha, yeah I was going to say that Withering Heights, Pa, and The Hardest Part are also up there for me.

And I saw your comment on my last.fm account. We do have high compatibility but we don't have any of the same top 8 or so artists which is odd.

[CellarGhosts]

Ha, yeah I was going to say that Withering Heights, Pa, and The Hardest Part are also up there for me.

And I saw your comment on my last.fm account. We do have high compatibility but we don't have any of the same top 8 or so artists which is odd.
Cool cool. I'd say that of the albums with the Cardinals, Jacksonville City Nights is shaping up to be my favorite. I like Easy Tiger too though, which is technically a Cardinals release.

Yeah, that is a little odd. Usually anyone I've got a high compatibility with has some top artists in common. Ryan Adams is almost in my top 8 though, so maybe I guess that's something, ha.

[drudo182]

Cool cool. I'd say that of the albums with the Cardinals, Jacksonville City Nights is shaping up to be my favorite. I like Easy Tiger too though, which is technically a Cardinals release.

Yeah, that is a little odd. Usually anyone I've got a high compatibility with has some top artists in common. Ryan Adams is almost in my top 8 though, so maybe I guess that's something, ha.

According to last, Easy Tiger is my most played album ever which is cool. I love that one too. Really, the only RA disc I'm not in love with is 29. It has some good tracks but easily my least favorite release.

[Dr. Acula]

Yeah, great album.

My favorite solo is Demolition, I'd say. Favorite Cardinals release is kind of tough. Probably Jacksonville City Nights.

That is a very interesting pick. I have to say personally, I find it very middle of the road when it comes to Adam's discography.

[CellarGhosts]

According to last, Easy Tiger is my most played album ever which is cool. I love that one too. Really, the only RA disc I'm not in love with is 29. It has some good tracks but easily my least favorite release.
That's cool. I've heard from alot of people that 29 is their least favorite. It's usually either that one or Rock N Roll.

[Dr. Acula]

Ohhhhh bed of steel, be my windin' wheeeeeel.

[drudo182]

That is a very interesting pick. I have to say personally, I find it very middle of the road when it comes to Adam's discography.

Really? Every one of those songs is great. "Dear Chicago" may be my favorite Adams song. "Chin Up, Cheer Up" is beautifully done.

It has a perfect blend of upbeat alt. country stuff and then slower songs.

[CellarGhosts]

"Dear Chicago" is a great song for sure.

[Carlo Marx]

On Heartbreaker? Interesting.

yeah man, i get that vibe every time i listen to heartbreaker.

[CellarGhosts]

I sorta get the Bob Dylan vibe from Heartbreaker as well.

[IWasaCamera]

I only hear it on To Be Young and Shakedown frankly.

[CellarGhosts]

Those two are the songs I hear it most in, but I sort of hear traces of Dylan throughout the whole record.

[IWasaCamera]

Fair enough. We can all agree it's a quality album at least.

[CellarGhosts]

Definitely. Gold is my favorite RA album, but Heartbreaker's a close second.

[IWasaCamera]

Gold is great but I rarely sit through the entire thing.

[CellarGhosts]

Granted it can feel a little lengthy, but there will be times when I put it on while on a long drive or something, and it goes right by, if you know what I'm saying. There's probably a song or two I could live without on there (For some reason I've never been huge on "Tina Toledo's Street Walking Blues"), but all in all I love it.

In fact, I'd probably switch out "Tina Toledo..." for "Rosalie Come and Go" off the bonus disc. I really like that one.

[FeynmanWannabe]

Listening to The Swedish Sessions now.

[CellarGhosts]

Sweet. Need to check that out.

Would anyone happen to know where I could get ahold of Suicide Handbook, btw? The only links I've been able to find are torrents and torrents are :yuk:

[3mpire]

I could never get close... I could never get close to you.

Just got Cold Roses. Some of it is phenomenal.

[CellarGhosts]

I could never get close... I could never get close to you.

Just got Cold Roses. Some of it is phenomenal.
For sure. It's got some filler, but there's definitely some phenomenal moments.

[3mpire]

The filler creeps in on the 2nd CD. It's bound to have some - it's Ryan Adams! :-p

Are the other albums released that year (by Ryan) worth checking out?

[IcedOpethBlind]

Sweet. Need to check that out.

Would anyone happen to know where I could get ahold of Suicide Handbook, btw? The only links I've been able to find are torrents and torrents are :yuk:

if you still need it i can up it for you...

[CellarGhosts]

The filler creeps in on the 2nd CD. It's bound to have some - it's Ryan Adams! :-p

Are the other albums released that year (by Ryan) worth checking out?
Haha. Much as I love RA, I agree - there always is a few moments of filler, save for Heartbreaker and Gold.

I say yes. Jacksonville City Nights is great, better than Cold Roses imo. Haven't checked out 29 yet but the concensus seems to be that its not too good.

if you still need it i can up it for you...
Okay that'd be cool. thanks man. I've been trying to find those bootlegs for a while now.

[IcedOpethBlind]

here you go...

http://www.mediafire.com/?thfrh4c5dr1

[CellarGhosts]

here you go...

http://www.mediafire.com/?thfrh4c5dr1
thanks, I appreciate it.

[IcedOpethBlind]

np, if you're looking for anything else just let me know..

[CellarGhosts]

np, if you're looking for anything else just let me know..
sweet. do you have Destroyer Sessions? all i need, really. there's still a couple official releases I don't have yet but I plan on purchasing those.

[IcedOpethBlind]

http://www.mediafire.com/?nyjnq2j55mf

yup

[CellarGhosts]

http://www.mediafire.com/?nyjnq2j55mf

yup
awesome, thanks a bunch.

[IWasaCamera]

Two of the customers in here are singing along to Answering Bell. Good stuff.

[Osto]

I finally listened to Gold. Was very different than what I expected, having never heard his music before. Didn't get that into it but I'm sure I will in a few more listens. His voice kinda comes off like Jason Mraz sometimes. It's a little bothersome.

[CellarGhosts]

Two of the customers in here are singing along to Answering Bell. Good stuff.
Haha, sweet.

I finally listened to Gold. Was very different than what I expected, having never heard his music before. Didn't get that into it but I'm sure I will in a few more listens. His voice kinda comes off like Jason Mraz sometimes. It's a little bothersome.
Please don't ever compare Ryan Adams to Jason Mraz again. Kthanks.

Kidding. But really, I dont hear a Jason Mraz similarity at all.

[Dr. Acula]

Not getting a Jason Mraz vibe. At all. Ever. Gross.

[IWasaCamera]

Don't hear that either.

[CellarGhosts]

Not getting a Jason Mraz vibe. At all. Ever. Gross.
Haha.

Yeah, I don't really understand that comparison.

[Osto]

I dunno, the first thing that comes to mind when I hear his voice on New York, New York is the verses of Mraz's "The Remedy"

[Carlo Marx]

there's a huge difference between ryan adams and frat boy pseudo-soul. mraz is an assclown.

[CellarGhosts]

Hahaha, well said Ryan.

[ugman_2000]

I don't know who mraz is but I'm guessing from your comments he sucks big donkey balls

Anyway I think Love is Hell is my favorite album that I've heard by him(only heard Gold, Rock n'Roll & his most recent with the cardinals), I managed to pick up love is hell on cd from my local record shop for £2

[CellarGhosts]

Good deal.

[CellarGhosts]

I've decided:

Gold > Heartbreaker > Jacksonville City Nights > Demolition > Love Is Hell > Cold Roses > Follow the Lights > Rock N' Roll > 29 > Easy Tiger > Cardinology

[IWasaCamera]

Mraz is indeed pretty bad.

[CellarGhosts]

np, if you're looking for anything else just let me know..
Sorry to bother you again, but do you have Exile On Franklin Street?

[IcedOpethBlind]

http://anonym.to/?http://www.mediafire.com/?tdlmho3nzmj

[CellarGhosts]

Thank you, I appreciate it.

[Osto]

Okay, so I'm now loving Heartbreaker and Gold, if ya'll could be so kind and point me in the right direction for listening to the rest of his material that would be much appreciated.

[CellarGhosts]

Okay, so I'm now loving Heartbreaker and Gold, if ya'll could be so kind and point me in the right direction for listening to the rest of his material that would be much appreciated.
Some people are of the opinion that those are the only two albums you need, ha. I like all his stuff though, so in my opinion, what you should check out next is Jacksonville City Nights.

He's also got some great stuff on his unreleased/bootleg albums, namely Suicide Handbook, which I can hook you up with if you like.

[Osto]

Thanks, I'll check that album out, I'll keep the offer in mind if I want to check out the bootlegs.

Oh yeah, is Whiskeytown any good?

[CellarGhosts]

Thanks, I'll check that album out, I'll keep the offer in mind if I want to check out the bootlegs.

Oh yeah, is Whiskeytown any good?
Sure thing. I just realized the links to two of the bootlegs are on the previous page, so they're there if you wanna check em out.

Whiskeytown is good for sure. I prefer solo Adams but if you can find it, pick up Strangers' Almanac. Their best album, if you ask me.

[Praetor]

Faithless Street and Love is Hell are the only essential RA albums that haven't yet been mentioned.

[CellarGhosts]

I actually like Pneumonia more than Faithless Street. :shrug: Just by a little though.

[Osto]

Its odd how much different peoples opinions on his albums vary. Most artists have a somewhat established viewpoint or two on that artists releases from the fans, but every person I've talked to about him have completely different ideas of what albums are good and what arent.

[CellarGhosts]

Its odd how much different peoples opinions on his albums vary. Most artists have a somewhat established viewpoint or two on that artists releases from the fans, but every person I've talked to about him have completely different ideas of what albums are good and what arent.
Yeah, everyone's pretty varied on his music. Most people will agree that Gold and Heartbreaker are his best, whether they enjoy the albums he made after those two or not. I enjoy all his albums (save for Cardinology which was pretty boring barring a few songs), but those first two are the best.

[Liter-O-Cola]

I've decided:

Gold > Heartbreaker > Jacksonville City Nights > Demolition > Love Is Hell > Cold Roses > Follow the Lights > Rock N' Roll > 29 > Easy Tiger > Cardinology

My personal list would have Cold Roses and Easy Tiger much higher up...I think Cold Roses is my favorite album by him...one of my favorites by anybody, actually.

[CellarGhosts]

My personal list would have Cold Roses and Easy Tiger much higher up...I think Cold Roses is my favorite album by him...one of my favorites by anybody, actually.
It's got a bit too much filler imo. Still, there are some of his best songs on there. "How Do You Keep Love Alive", "Let It Ride", "Blossom" and "Friends" are all excellent.

[Liter-O-Cola]

No love for "Easy Plateau"? That song is so goooooood.

[CellarGhosts]

Forgot that one, it's good too. I tend to skip over "Now That You're Gone", "Meadowlake Street" and "Mockingbird".

Oh and "Dance All Night" is a good one too.

[TheFactor]

Yeah, everyone's pretty varied on his music. Most people will agree that Gold and Heartbreaker are his best, whether they enjoy the albums he made after those two or not. I enjoy all his albums (save for Cardinology which was pretty boring barring a few songs), but those first two are the best.

well said.

It's funny... Although, artistically it's considered a terd compared the rest of his catalog, I find myself always going back to Rock N Roll the most. The logical explanation is that it is actually a perfect, decadent, accessible rock record in its truest sense. I think its one of the best rock records of the last 5 years, but never got its due because it was a throwaway record by someone considered an alt-country troubadour-god.

Clearly, Rock n Roll is the greatest departure from his style, thus was the one it took the biggest testicular fortitude to record. This leaves it very vulnerable to harsh criticism, such comments, as "oh, he could have done much better". I think people missed the point of that record.

"So Alive" "1974" "Boys" "Do Miss America" "Is this it" "RockNRoll" and my god "Wish You Were Here". All jams.

If Kings of Leon made this record people would think it was genius, but since someone who is held to a higher standard recorded it, it is assumed to be a disappointment. Expectations are a bitch.

[CellarGhosts]

well said.

It's funny... Although, artistically it's considered a terd compared the rest of his catalog, I find myself always going back to Rock N Roll the most. The logical explanation is that it is actually a perfect, decadent, accessible rock record in its truest sense. I think its one of the best rock records of the last 5 years, but never got its due because it was a throwaway record by someone considered an alt-country troubadour-god.

To me that record is the greatest departure from his style, thus was the one it took the biggest testicular fortitude to record.

"So Alive" "1974" "Boys" "Do Miss America" "Is this it" "RockNRoll" and my god "Wish You Were Here". All jams.

If Kings of Leon made this record people would think it was genius, but since, someone who is held to a higher standard recorded, it is assumed to be a disappointment. Expectations are a bitch.
Also well said haha. People hate Rock N' Roll but I like it. Those songs you listed are all my favorites from it actually, ha. In fact, "Do Miss America" and "Boys" are two of my all time favorite RA songs.

[TheFactor]

Also well said haha. People hate Rock N' Roll but I like it. Those songs you listed are all my favorites from it actually, ha. In fact, "Do Miss America" and "Boys" are two of my all time favorite RA songs.

this album has been topic of many bar-music convos i have had over the last 5 years. No one ever agrees with me. As much as people like to say critics do not matter, they are clearly influenced by them when it comes to this album.

You may be the first person who agrees with me.

[CellarGhosts]

this album has been topic of many bar-music convos i have had over the last 5 years. No one ever agrees with me. As much as people like to say critics do not matter, they are clearly influenced by them when it comes to this album.

You may be the first person who agrees with me.
Really? That's strange. I would've thought that there'd be at least one person who shares your opinion on that album. I know there's another user on here who's a big RA fan that likes Rock N' Roll too. So there's def people out there that like it; it just gets a bad rap.

But yeah, people do seem to be influenced by the critical reception RA receives. Not just on that album either but his entire career.

[IcedOpethBlind]

Rock 'N Roll is the bomb

[CellarGhosts]

I can sorta see where someone would be put off by it, but it definitely gets more hate than it deserves.

[TheFactor]

Really? That's strange. I would've thought that there'd be at least one person who shares your opinion on that album. I know there's another user on here who's a big RA fan that likes Rock N' Roll too. So there's def people out there that like it; it just gets a bad rap.

But yeah, people do seem to be influenced by the critical reception RA receives. Not just on that album either but his entire career.

Case in Point Heartbreaker vs. Gold.

Just because Gold was a little bit more accessible than the former, that's when the boo-birds come out. It is every bit as strong.

[CellarGhosts]

Case in Point Heartbreaker vs. Gold.

Just because Gold was a little bit more accessible than the former, that's when the boo-birds come out. It is every bit as strong.
For sure. I actually prefer Gold to Heartbreaker.

[KatieKutthroat.]

For sure. I actually prefer Gold to Heartbreaker.

Me too! I thought no one else shared this sentiment. I love Gold.

[Liter-O-Cola]

Says the girl with the Heartbreaker avatar...oh the irony!

[KatieKutthroat.]

Says the girl with the Heartbreaker avatar...oh the irony!
I still love Heartbreaker. Plus, I had Gold as my avatar for quite a while...I needed to change it up. :-)

[Liter-O-Cola]

Haha I'm just messing with you. Annnnnd I'm listening to Rock 'n Roll right now (and raising middle fingers to the detractors [in my head because I'm at work and that would be obscene])

[3mpire]

First disc of Cold Roses is so good. The second... full of filler. Going to listen to Jacksonville on Spotify.

[KatieKutthroat.]

Lol, I know. And Rock 'n Roll receives much more hate than it deserves. It's not my favorite, but it's good.

[CellarGhosts]

Me too! I thought no one else shared this sentiment. I love Gold.
:highfive: It's such a good album. I actually think that some of the stuff from the bonus disc is better than some of the songs on the actual album. In my mind, a perfect Gold track-listing would be:

1. New York, New York
2. Firecracker
3. Answering Bell
4. La Cienega Just Smiled
5. The Rescue Blues
6. Somehow, Someday
7. When The Stars Go Blue
8. Nobody Girl
9. Sylvia Plath
10. Enemy Fire
11. Cannonball Days
12. Wild Flowers
13. Harder Now That It's Over
14. Rosalie Come and Go
15. Sweet Black Magic
16. Goodnight, Hollywood Boulevard

Something like that.

[Osto]

I'm still not familiar enough with Gold to agree or disagree with that. But it does make me want to look into the bonus tracks now.

I'm about halfway through Love is Hell and I love it...it's exactly what I wanted to hear from this guy without knowing it.

[CellarGhosts]

I'm still not familiar enough with Gold to agree or disagree with that. But it does make me want to look into the bonus tracks now.

I'm about halfway through Love is Hell and I love it...it's exactly what I wanted to hear from this guy without knowing it.
The bonus tracks are so good. "The Bar Is a Beautiful Place" is another good one I forgot to include. I don't know if I'd switch it out for anything on the album though.

I just came to the Music forum to post about Ryan Adams and was pleasantly surprised to see that this thread has been relatively active! I downloaded Heartbreaker a few days ago and wow...I absolutely love it. Some seriously amazing tracks on that album. Really moving overall. Call Me On Your Way Back Home? Heartbreaking indeed.
Great song. :nod:

[3mpire]

Forgot that one, it's good too. I tend to skip over "Now That You're Gone", "Meadowlake Street" and "Mockingbird".

Oh and "Dance All Night" is a good one too.
Medowlake Street?! It's incredible, fo-sure.

[CellarGhosts]

Medowlake Street?! It's incredible, fo-sure.
Haha, it's okay. I'm just not all that stoked on it.

[3mpire]

Well certainly am! Ha. On a slight Adams binge at the moment.

How did you get into him? I saw a live performance on BBC4 about a year or so ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTkdMOT6-_U&feature=channel_page

Here's song of the songs from the show.

[CellarGhosts]

I just got into him through people talking about him and everyone going on about how good Heartbreaker was. I checked out that album and Gold, and was hooked.

[Liter-O-Cola]

:highfive: It's such a good album. I actually think that some of the stuff from the bonus disc is better than some of the songs on the actual album. In my mind, a perfect Gold track-listing would be:

1. New York, New York
2. Firecracker
3. Answering Bell
4. La Cienega Just Smiled
5. The Rescue Blues
6. Somehow, Someday
7. When The Stars Go Blue
8. Nobody Girl
9. Sylvia Plath
10. Enemy Fire
11. Cannonball Days
12. Wild Flowers
13. Harder Now That It's Over
14. Rosalie Come and Go
15. Sweet Black Magic
16. Goodnight, Hollywood Boulevard

Something like that.

Rosalie Come and Go represent! That song rocks

[CellarGhosts]

Rosalie Come and Go represent! That song rocks
Word up! It's such a good song to blast/rock out too. Definitely a feel good kind of song. I still don't see why it wasn't included on the actual album. I mean, it's def better than some of the songs that ARE on it (Touch, Feel and Lose for example).

I mean, I know it was on the bonus disc but they only issued that with the first [x] copies of the album. It was a little lame how Lost Highway wouldn't just allow it to be a double album.

[Osto]

I would probably like Gold more than Heartbreaker if it wasn't so long and overproduced.

[CellarGhosts]

I don't think it's all that overproduced. Maybe a little.

[CellarGhosts]

Just bumping to say that I still think Easy Tiger is unjustly hated/a pretty underrated album.

[MyNameIsRoss]

Yeah, I diggg Easy Tiger.

[CellarGhosts]

I think it's a solid album. Way better than Cardinology, which is pretty bland imo.

[Liter-O-Cola]

I agree, Cardinology had a few good tracks but overall it was a disappointment. I was kind of in denial about it at first because I was just excited for new Ryan Adams but it doesn't have much replay value. Not his best lyrically either. But Easy Tiger is definitely underrated.

[CellarGhosts]

I agree, Cardinology had a few good tracks but overall it was a disappointment. I was kind of in denial about it at first because I was just excited for new Ryan Adams but it doesn't have much replay value. Not his best lyrically either. But Easy Tiger is definitely underrated.
It's a listenable album but I hardly ever go back to it. Funny thing is, I actually have grown to like "Magick" quite a bit. Sure it's lyrics are...unusual, but it's just a fun song if you don't take it too seriously. "Stop" and "Cobwebs" are good too, but really those are the only songs off Cardinology I listen to that often.

Easy Tiger may not be the most exciting of albums, but it's definitely not bad at all if you ask me. Granted it took me a few listens to warm up to it, but once I did I really began enjoying it.

[3mpire]

I'm seriously in love with Cold Roses (disc 1 especially). Perfect mood, instrumentation and lyrics. Medowlake Street just killed me.

[CellarGhosts]

Cold Roses gets hate, but it's great. I love the mood/feel/atmosphere/blahwhatever of the whole thing. I also like the bonus track version of "Hard Way To Fall" better than the version on Jacksonville City Nights.

[FeynmanWannabe]

Cold Roses gets hate, but it's great. I love the mood/feel/atmosphere/blahwhatever of the whole thing. I also like the bonus track version of "Hard Way To Fall" better than the version on Jacksonville City Nights.
Magnolia Mountain is one of his best songs. Hard to get past that killer song, though. haha I'll get those songs to you tonight. It was slowing my connection down earlier today. Haven't forgotten - zipped and ready to go. ;-)

[CellarGhosts]

Magnolia Mountain is one of his best songs. Hard to get past that killer song, though. haha I'll get those songs to you tonight. It was slowing my connection down earlier today. Haven't forgotten - zipped and ready to go. ;-)
One of my favorites of his too. And sweet deal. Thank you, sir!

[TheFactor]

Cold Roses gets hate, but it's great. I love the mood/feel/atmosphere/blahwhatever of the whole thing. I also like the bonus track version of "Hard Way To Fall" better than the version on Jacksonville City Nights.

who gives it hate? i think its perfectly rated. its very good, most consider it the best of his cardinals albums. I feel this album is generally understood and well received.

RnR/JCN/29/ET/Cardin are all albums that have been polarizing.

[CellarGhosts]

who gives it hate? i think its perfectly rated. its very good, most consider it the best of his cardinals albums. I feel this album is generally understood and well received.

RnR/JCN/29/ET/Cardin are all albums that have been polarizing.
I guess that's true enough. I've just seen some people on here who aren't too big on Cold Roses. As for those other albums, I love Easy Tiger, and I think Cardinology is his weakest.

[TheFactor]

I guess that's true enough. I've just seen some people on here who aren't too big on Cold Roses. As for those other albums, I love Easy Tiger, and I think Cardinology is his weakest.


Have not listened to Easy tiger enough. I could totally see why people feel the way you feel about Cardinology.

I do not, however, as i am completely enthralled with the first 7 tracks-- Born into the Light through Crossed Out Name. I think they are great straight forward rock. No frills, no pretentious singer songwriter stuff.

I am not sure if you have seen him live on this past tour, but if not, definitely check out "Cross out Name" live on youtube. I wish the studio version was that raucous.

[CellarGhosts]

Have not listened to Easy tiger enough. I could totally see why people feel the way you feel about Cardinology.

I do not, however, as i am completely enthralled with the first 7 tracks-- Born into the Light through Crossed Out Name. I think they are great straight forward rock. No frills, no pretentious singer songwriter stuff.

I am not sure if you have seen him live on this past tour, but if not, definitely check out "Cross out Name" live on youtube. I wish the studio version was that raucous.
Don't get me wrong, I like Cardinology. It's just my least favorite. I love "Crossed Out Name", "Born Into a Light", and "Fix It". I even like the infamous "Magick". It's just not an album I go back to as often as the rest.

I'll look into that. Never got the chance to see him live :-(

[micahistheballs]

I've decided I like Ryan Adams better than Conor Oberst.
Anyone else in that boat?

[CellarGhosts]

I've decided I like Ryan Adams better than Conor Oberst.
Anyone else in that boat?
I am.

[micahistheballs]

I am.
I knew I liked you.

[CellarGhosts]

I knew I liked you.
Haha :bow: Glad to hear it.

[Dr. Acula]

I've decided I like Ryan Adams better than Conor Oberst.
Anyone else in that boat?

Tough call. I think "Im Wide Awake, It's Morning" is better then anything Ryan Adams has released and Lifted is right up there too. I will say Gold/Heartbreaker/Love is Hell/Cold Roses are better then any other Bright Eyes release aside from the two I listed above.

[CellarGhosts]

Meh. Ryan has a much better voice than Conor and his lyrics appeal more to me. I don't know, I like Bright Eyes and all but I've always felt like Conor is pretty overrated.

[SwiftSilentDead]

I got Gold last night. The album title pretty much explains how I feel about it. Don't know why I waited so long to finally get an album from him.

[CellarGhosts]

I got Gold last night. The album title pretty much explains how I feel about it. Don't know why I waited so long to finally get an album from him.
Haha, good man. That's my favorite Ryan Adams album and one of my all-time favorite albums ever. I love it.

[CellarGhosts]

I never knew this but apparently Ryan was originally going to offer "In My Time Of Need" to Johnny Cash but before he could do so, Cash went into the hospital and his state of poor health. I just imagined how great that would be, hearing Cash cover that song. Seems like it would have worked out really well.

I don't know how much truth there is to all of this but regardless, I would have liked to see Cash record that song.

[IWasaCamera]

Good song.

[micahistheballs]

I wish that had actually happened.

[CellarGhosts]

I wish that had actually happened.
Me too, man. I think it would have worked out perfectly for Cash. I heard there's a recording of it somewhere that's never been released but I seriously doubt that that's true.

Good song.
On the subject of Heartbreaker, I don't know if this is a late pass for me or what...but I realized how "Damn, Sam (I Love A Woman That Rains)" doesn't work too well on its own. Like, I put it on a CD I had burnt of different Ryan Adams songs to listen to in the car and it sounded out of place and somewhat ...I don't know, pedestrian? ...But in the context of the album it's great. I think it leads really well into "Come Pick Me Up".

Hopefully that made some kind of sense. Haha.

[IWasaCamera]

On the subject of Heartbreaker, I don't know if this is a late pass for me or what...but I realized how "Damn, Sam (I Love A Woman That Rains)" doesn't work too well on its own. Like, I put it on a CD I had burnt of different Ryan Adams songs to listen to in the car and it sounded out of place and somewhat ...I don't know, pedestrian? ...But in the context of the album it's great. I think it leads really well into "Come Pick Me Up".

Hopefully that made some kind of sense. Haha.
I always liked the song because he sounds inebriated as hell, which is when I find Adams most intriguing ha. It's certainly not spectacular, but I'd say it's still a quality tune and as you stated, it leads nicely into fan favorite Come Pick Me Up. The track I feel stands awkwardly in its own corner is Bartering Lines, especially between the goodness of Oh My Sweet Carolina and Call Me On Your Way Back Home.