New Epitaph fucking blows

[level4loser]

seriously.....
i like Motion City Soundtrack. and the weakerthans. but what the fuck is up with new epitaph bands sucking so much corporate wang? you know the drill. you take old ass epitaph bands that rocked. examples include:
pennywise
bad religion (yes i know theyre still on there, you moron)
nofx
guttermouth
The (international) noise conspiracy
Dwarves
98 Mute
pulley
zeke
agnostic front

and you replace with shitty bands, or watch the classics (i.e. guttermouth and pulley) turn to shit. these new bands are a travesty to epitaph. such as:
matchbook romance
from first to last
new atmosphere sucks fucking balls.
randy
the black keys
hot water music (wtf??)

seriously. fuck epitaph. but some of its smaller branches do rock, so im not burying it all the way. the locust, elliott smith, dillinger four and the lawrence arms are on anti, and fat, respectively. but the epitaph name in general is shamed by this shit. punk o rama 5 was a groundbreaking fucking compilation. anybody agree with me? or are people that site finch as "post-hardcore rock" gonna come on here and nit-pick?

~tony

[dretti]

Yes, epitaph is almost entirely pure shit. I love MCS, but everything else is quite sad.

[_astheruinfalls]

I really like Epitaph. Sure, I don't like a lot of the bands, but I love the diversity they have.

And they have many great bands.

[thrice_is_nice]

i'm kinda tired of arguing about From First To Last but... From First To Last is a good band in my opinion but HELL....i know this is gonna effect my poor excuse for a "rep" but i like em and think they have alot to offer

[FiiRe At Will]

i'm kinda tired of arguing about From First To Last but... From First To Last is a good band in my opinion but HELL....i know this is gonna effect my poor excuse for a "rep" but i like em and think they have alot to offer


I agree.

I also think that Epitaph is good, and always had been. The new and the old are both awesome, and when mixed it comes out quite nicely.

[punkerx99]

pennywise- lame
bad religion (yes i know theyre still on there, you moron)- pretty good
nofx- new stuff sucks
The (international) noise conspiracy- not too familiar with, but i love refused.
agnostic front- i'm sure their glory days were before epitaph
matchbook romance-suck
from first to last-suck
hot water music (wtf??)- how can you not like HWM??

Also, the Punk O Rama series is pretty weak. I applaud Epitaph for branching out from boring skate punk though... even if I don't like their newest bands.

[level4loser]

pennywise- lame
bad religion (yes i know theyre still on there, you moron)- pretty good
nofx- new stuff sucks
The (international) noise conspiracy- not too familiar with, but i love refused.
agnostic front- i'm sure their glory days were before epitaph
matchbook romance-suck
from first to last-suck
hot water music (wtf??)- how can you not like HWM??

Also, the Punk O Rama series is pretty weak. I applaud Epitaph for branching out from boring skate punk though... even if I don't like their newest bands.

the fact that you called pennywise lame makes you a moron. and agnostic fronts best albums were on epitaph...see "dead yuppies" and im not sure but i think "riot riot upstart" was an epitaph release as well.
and new nofx is better, at least musically than old nofx.
i dont like HWM because they straight suck.

[punkerx99]

the fact that you called pennywise lame makes you a moron. and agnostic fronts best albums were on epitaph...see "dead yuppies" and im not sure but i think "riot riot upstart" was an epitaph release as well.
and new nofx is better, at least musically than old nofx.
i dont like HWM because they straight suck.


Yeah... ok. Pennywise's music gets boring very quickly. I'm entitled to my own opinion. HWM is a great band.

As for NOFX? I never want to hear Fat Mike talk about politics again. Their older stuff was so much better.

[level4loser]

Yeah... ok. Pennywise's music gets boring very quickly. I'm entitled to my own opinion. HWM is a great band.

As for NOFX? I never want to hear Fat Mike talk about politics again. Their older stuff was so much better.

you are entitled to your own opinion, but i strongly disagree. pennywise's album land of the free? is one of the best punk albums ever made.

and if you read my last post at all...i said "musically" nofx new shit is hella tight. and im sorry, liberal animation doesnt stand up at all to war on errorism. not even close. not even punk in drublic. musically, war on errorism is the best theyve ever done

[punkerx99]

you are entitled to your own opinion, but i strongly disagree. pennywise's album land of the free? is one of the best punk albums ever made.

and if you read my last post at all...i said "musically" nofx new shit is hella tight. and im sorry, liberal animation doesnt stand up at all to war on errorism. not even close. not even punk in drublic. musically, war on errorism is the best theyve ever done


It's not necessarily that Pennywise is a "band" band, but I can't listen to their music for long periods at a time. I'd rather listen to old Rancid. I'm sure Land Of The Free? is considered one of the best punk albums of all time, but I'd rather listen to something a little less monotonous if I had to chose among punk bands.

I enjoy Punk in Drublic more than War On Errorism... I was referring more to the lyrics, but you do bring up a good point about the actual music. I think it is much better than the other stuff. I like "The Separation of Church and Skate" a lot. However, "All Outta Angst" is still a great song.

[deathgrin]

I really like Epitaph. Sure, I don't like a lot of the bands, but I love the diversity they have.

And they have many great bands.
yes, diversity. you've just made a score buddy

[Hilikus]

Epitaph is a very good label actually. Sure they may not be all punk bands anymore but i think that diversity is good (like some others said).

[charlesincharge]

Epitaph is a very good label actually. Sure they may not be all punk bands anymore but i think that diversity is good (like some others said).

Diversity is good but a lot of the newer bands signed to Epitaph are just terrible.

Motion City Soundtrack and The Weakerthans are the only exceptions of "newer" bands that are even good and I honestly can't think of one of their other "newer" bands that is decent.

[oldwirehands]

Pulley fucking rocks!

[deathgrin]

Pulley fucking rocks!
they do!

[Bishop]

See, you people who are mentioning Pulley and Agnostic Front, don't realize that he said they were good bands.

But, I still love Atmosphere, The Black Keys and Hot Water Music.

[deathgrin]

HWM is one of the sickest bands around and so do The Black Keys.

[LoyalSubject]

What about The Matches? I think they are one of the best bands that Epitaph has recently signed.

[The Bled 13]

Woah woah, now I usually agree with you, but you just bashed Hot Water Music and The Black Keys..

Come on man.

[level4loser]

Woah woah, now I usually agree with you, but you just bashed Hot Water Music and The Black Keys..

Come on man.
i dig HWM's older stuff. the new stuff just doesnt impress me anymore.

but i will give epitaph credit on Error. they fucking rule. the black keys are decent at best.

[juan_believes]

the weakerthans rule
i also enjoy mcs and the matches

[shane hennessey]

black keys are awesome. they are 2 guys, they are unique and they are extremely talented. they shouldn't be on eptiaph, but they are good

[The Bled 13]

Why shouldn't they be on Epitaph? I hold high respect for that label, because they have such diverste artists. Do you know any other labels that go from Converge - Death By Stereo - Hot Water Music - The Black Keys? No, you don't.

Even if they have jumped on this "faux screamo" trend, I still like the label a lot.

[shane hennessey]

Why shouldn't they be on Epitaph?
They should be on a major label soon but for diversity i guess epitaph is fitting. Bbut i dont even know if they should be on a "punk" label. On the other hand i think it helped them expand to a larger audience. either way they should get signed by someone big

[Shoes]

Randy and Atmosphere are two of my favourite bands on Epitaph they completely own how you can say they suck is completely retarded to me

[x togepi x]

land of the free being one of the best punk albums? maybe i'll relisten to it if my copy isn't too scratched up. that will bring back some memories

[decom_poseur]

What about The Matches? I think they are one of the best bands that Epitaph has recently signed.


I dont know why, but I hate that band so much.

[mht]

I enjoy Bad Religion, Converge and Some Girls.

[CountMeOut923]

bad religion, converge, gallows are great.

[decom_poseur]

Gallows fucking rule

[the thread]

this is such an old thread. but anyhow, Pulley back in the day were a great band. Osker was awesome as well. To hear these kids bashing HWM, what shit. I mean, up until just a few years ago, Epitaph still had a pretty good roster, i mean, 98 Mute, Pennywise before they got old, a lot of really fun, fast punk rock bands that just made you feel good. Listen to "Straight Outta The Pit" Punk-o-Rama 4. Possibly my favorite. Of course, this label sucks now, it seems instead of signing quality punk bands, they just will sign anything and hope something sticks and hits it big. Acts like Vanna, FFTL? are you kidding me? Good thing Anti is a subsidiary, otherwise Epitaph would be screwed.

[aaronislegend]

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w130/farewellepitaph/workinprogress3.jpg

best new band on epitaph
there gonna blow up
there my best friends

put on a great live show!


http://www.myspace.com/farewell

[Danny Schme]

Opinions on Vanna?

[lawofaverages]

Opinions on Vanna?

Suck.

[BGP]

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w130/farewellepitaph/workinprogress3.jpg

best new band on epitaph
there gonna blow up
there my best friends

put on a great live show!


http://www.myspace.com/farewell
they should stop making music

[the thread]

Opinions on Vanna?

shit.

[duhpunk]

most labels have gone to hell lately. the only ones i can think or right now that are still decent are Hopeless, Fearless, Trust Kill, and Fat Wreck Chords

[the thread]

or victory.

[Shatter590]

i dont mind the new direction, but mr brett needs to be WAY more selective. like he used to be

[duhpunk]

or victory.

true, but unfortunately the good bands are being overshadowed by their shitty bands

[the thread]

true, but unfortunately the good bands are being overshadowed by their shitty bands

i was kidding. victory is probably the worst label out there, and EVR will be joining them soon, i think. the only good band left on victory is Darkest Hour, and I dont even know if theyre still on the label or what.

[duhpunk]

i was kidding. victory is probably the worst label out there, and EVR will be joining them soon, i think. the only good band left on victory is Darkest Hour, and I dont even know if theyre still on the label or what.

bayside, between the buried and me, catch 22, comeback kid, and streetlight manifesto are all bad?

[Shatter590]

bayside, between the buried and me, catch 22, comeback kid, and streetlight manifesto are all bad?

catch 22 is past its prime, but the rest, yeah i agree

[duhpunk]

catch 22 is past its prime, but the rest, yeah i agree

agree with me? or that they're bad?

[Shatter590]

agree with me? or that they're bad?

no, i love bayside and the others are all very solid bands, if not my thing.

[duhpunk]

no, i love bayside and the others are all very solid bands, if not my thing.

okay. making sure. i didn't get into hardcore until recently, but i think BTBAM is one of the more talented modern bands

[Shatter590]

okay. making sure. i didn't get into hardcore until recently, but i think BTBAM is one of the more talented modern bands

theyve got a great sound, im just not into them. same with comeback kid, I can enjoy it but never buy it

[the thread]

bayside, between the buried and me, catch 22, comeback kid, and streetlight manifesto are all bad?

theyre all bad.

BTBAM. band for kids who know nothing about good, technical metal and metalcore. for men in women's jeans.
BAYSIDE. 1 member dies, another one barely makes it. "hey, lets go back on tour next week." nice.
CATCH 22: past their prime. who cares anymore?
CBK: same. used to be pretty good. their shtick is up. kids who know nothing about posi-core love this band. go listen to old Bane instead.
SM: who gives a shit?

seriously, some of those bands used to be decent, all of them are now past their prime or sold their lack of originality to Tony Brummel (i think thats his name) to make some bucks.. not to mention, if you sign to victory, basically youre not smart enough to understand what a plague that label and owner are. Some bands (i.e. Grade, DH) were still able to do relatively well. Are you seriously trying to argue that the label "isnt that bad?" because I guarantee I can find hundreds of people that will agree with me. The label is notorious for signing any shit band that will make money, then exploit them to death (HH, unfortunately, not "to death" which is what needs to happen) why do you think their band turnover is so ungodly high? Their roster blows, no matter how you try to justify it.

[Shatter590]

theyre all bad.

BTBAM. band for kids who know nothing about good, technical metal and metalcore. for men in women's jeans.
BAYSIDE. 1 member dies, another one barely makes it. "hey, lets go back on tour next week." nice.
CATCH 22: past their prime. who cares anymore?
CBK: same. used to be pretty good. their shtick is up. kids who know nothing about posi-core love this band. go listen to old Bane instead.
SM: who gives a shit?

seriously, some of those bands used to be decent, all of them are now past their prime or sold their lack of originality to Tony Brummel (i think thats his name) to make some bucks.. not to mention, if you sign to victory, basically youre not smart enough to understand what a plague that label and owner are. Some bands (i.e. Grade, DH) were still able to do relatively well. Are you seriously trying to argue that the label "isnt that bad?" because I guarantee I can find hundreds of people that will agree with me. The label is notorious for signing any shit band that will make money, then exploit them to death (HH, unfortunately, not "to death" which is what needs to happen) why do you think their band turnover is so ungodly high? Their roster blows, no matter how you try to justify it.


victory does have one of the worst policies for both signing bands and retaining them, all based on very shady and unscrupulous business practices. but with a lot of the bands, they truly do believe inn what theyre doing, and regardless of quality, you cant fault them for wanting success, or even the illusion thereof.

[duhpunk]

theyre all bad.

BTBAM. band for kids who know nothing about good, technical metal and metalcore. for men in women's jeans.
BAYSIDE. 1 member dies, another one barely makes it. "hey, lets go back on tour next week." nice.
CATCH 22: past their prime. who cares anymore?
CBK: same. used to be pretty good. their shtick is up. kids who know nothing about posi-core love this band. go listen to old Bane instead.
SM: who gives a shit?

seriously, some of those bands used to be decent, all of them are now past their prime or sold their lack of originality to Tony Brummel (i think thats his name) to make some bucks.. not to mention, if you sign to victory, basically youre not smart enough to understand what a plague that label and owner are. Some bands (i.e. Grade, DH) were still able to do relatively well. Are you seriously trying to argue that the label "isnt that bad?" because I guarantee I can find hundreds of people that will agree with me. The label is notorious for signing any shit band that will make money, then exploit them to death (HH, unfortunately, not "to death" which is what needs to happen) why do you think their band turnover is so ungodly high? Their roster blows, no matter how you try to justify it.

i agree that the label and the people running it are awful, but to say that all of the bands suck is both ignorant and narrow minded.

[cooltobeyou]

As far as Epitaph records goes:

The last Bad Religion album, "The Empire Strikes First" was mediocre.

The last Pulley album "Matters" was absolutely phenomenal; one of the best albums of 2004.

The Matches were an awesome band BEFORE they signed to Epitaph. "E Von Dahl Killed The Locals" was excellent, and if i'm not mistaken, I believe it was just an album that Epitaph re-released for them. Then, the first real album the Matches put together for Epitaph "Decomposer (sp?)" is a jumbled mess and its very difficult to listen to all the way through. Its a couple good songs, but not a good album.

Motion City Soundtrack is one of the WORST bands I've ever heard in my life, and I don't understand the hype for them. HORRIBLE.

Everything else on Epitaph really isn't worth mentioning at the moment.

[Shatter590]

As far as Epitaph records goes:

The last Bad Religion album, "The Empire Strikes First" was mediocre.

The last Pulley album "Matters" was absolutely phenomenal; one of the best albums of 2004.

The Matches were an awesome band BEFORE they signed to Epitaph. "E Von Dahl Killed The Locals" was excellent, and if i'm not mistaken, I believe it was just an album that Epitaph re-released for them. Then, the first real album the Matches put together for Epitaph "Decomposer (sp?)" is a jumbled mess and its very difficult to listen to all the way through. Its a couple good songs, but not a good album.

Motion City Soundtrack is one of the WORST bands I've ever heard in my life, and I don't understand the hype for them. HORRIBLE.

Everything else on Epitaph really isn't worth mentioning at the moment.

Bad Religion has been hit or miss since Recipe for Hate.

My view on The Matches is the exact opposite- i think Decompser was better than E Von Dahl, much more experimental and ambitious. But yeah, they did rerelease the old album, I have the self release, and its actually better.

MCS- love them or hate them, theres no middle ground.

[duhpunk]

Motion City Soundtrack is one of the WORST bands I've ever heard in my life, and I don't understand the hype for them. HORRIBLE.


theyre not that good. but theyre a fun band.

[the thread]

i agree that the label and the people running it are awful, but to say that all of the bands suck is both ignorant and narrow minded.

not really. are you trying to tell me that im narrow minded for thinking bands like Aiden are talentless hacks formed only to make some dough? Or that almost all of the bands on there are generic metalcore rip-offs from good bands like Botch? I think its stupid to try and justify the fact that all these bands are cookie-cutter clones of bands previous are actually good bands, and that not liking them or saying they suck, which is true, is "close minded." I would be ignorant if I said "all black people smell bad." I would not be ignorant if I said that Aiden and HH are bands processed for children who think eyeliner is emo and FOB is punk.

case in point, a majority of Victory bands blow, no two ways about it.

[cooltobeyou]

My view on The Matches is the exact opposite- i think Decompser was better than E Von Dahl, much more experimental and ambitious. But yeah, they did rerelease the old album, I have the self release, and its actually better.



I agree that Decomposer is a lot more experimental than E Von Dahl, but I liked the fact that they seemed to be just playing simple and fun pop-punk tunes on E Von Dahl. The album starts off strong with "Dog Eared Page" and it really hits its stride and never slows down again with tracks 7 through 11. So, I found it to be a really good summer album.

I just feel that they tried to do TOO MUCH with Decomposer, and as a listener, I could never really get comfortable with the album. There are surely some good moments on the CD, and some excellent songs, but I can't help but feel like the band wasn't focused while making the CD. I still feel that having only one producer, instead of like 9, would have helped them tie the songs together a little better and made a better flowing album overall.

[watchthesky07]

I'm going to give these guys the benefit of the doubt and say that Epitaph is simply trying to 'branch out' rather than cash in on the latest trends. It woud help though, if they didn't sign shitty bands like From First to Last, Escape the Fate, and I Am Ghost.

Motion City Soundtrack (at least their debut album)are excellent though.

[cahrishurr]

Farewell, MCS, Atmosphere, The Black Keys are pretty awesome too.

[Shatter590]

not really. are you trying to tell me that im narrow minded for thinking bands like Aiden are talentless hacks formed only to make some dough? Or that almost all of the bands on there are generic metalcore rip-offs from good bands like Botch? I think its stupid to try and justify the fact that all these bands are cookie-cutter clones of bands previous are actually good bands, and that not liking them or saying they suck, which is true, is "close minded." I would be ignorant if I said "all black people smell bad." I would not be ignorant if I said that Aiden and HH are bands processed for children who think eyeliner is emo and FOB is punk.

case in point, a majority of Victory bands blow, no two ways about it.

number one, theres a difference between saying all blacks smell bad, and expressing an opinion on a band. the former is close minded and rather racist. But liking a band is all a matter of opinion. For everyone who says Victory bands suck, there are people who love them. Plus, as I said, the bands themselves often believe in what they do. Yes there are plenty of bands who form to make money (which, when you think about it, is the point of being in a band, or doing anything creative, is it not? recognition and earning a living at what you love), but there are many others that make the music they want to, and if not for Tony Brummel, would have remined unknown.

I wouldnt fault the band, I fault the label most of the time. They sign the same kinds of bands to exploit them for cash.

Plus, when it comes to music, you cant expect bands not to ape whats either popular or what they like. Otherwise there wouldnt be all that much variety in music, since theres only so many ways you can play the same things over and over. its just like with writing.

[Shatter590]

I agree that Decomposer is a lot more experimental than E Von Dahl, but I liked the fact that they seemed to be just playing simple and fun pop-punk tunes on E Von Dahl. The album starts off strong with "Dog Eared Page" and it really hits its stride and never slows down again with tracks 7 through 11. So, I found it to be a really good summer album.

I just feel that they tried to do TOO MUCH with Decomposer, and as a listener, I could never really get comfortable with the album. There are surely some good moments on the CD, and some excellent songs, but I can't help but feel like the band wasn't focused while making the CD. I still feel that having only one producer, instead of like 9, would have helped them tie the songs together a little better and made a better flowing album overall.

that i get. it took me almost 6 months to get into Decomposer. It was so all over the place that it sounded discordant to me. But when I got over the weird experiementing, I ended up loving the album because none of the songs sounded the same.

E Von Dahl is just too...vanilla for me. Everything sounds the same, and Ive heard it before and heard it better. That said, Sick Little Suicide is fucking amazing. Thats the main reason i got into them in the first place, well that and the fact that shawn is really awesome as a person.

[Danny Schme]

shit.

Suck.

Hahaha I expected that.

[Troggy]

the black keys

You had a good point until you added these guys to the crap list. The Black Keys are an amazing band. They don't belong on epitaph, sure, but if epitaph wants to sign good bands that play other genres of music do you really have to complain so much?

[ThisIsNotDan]

there's a band on epitaph called Mother/Father who do some pretty cool interpol-meets-failure space rock. 3/4 of ex-Epitaph band Scatter The Ashes are in it. good stuff.

www.myspace.com/thisismotherfather (http://www.myspace.com/thisismotherfather)

[sugar7422]

idk

i still like epitaph

the old rocked

the new is diverse and i think thats good for a label.
Still, I do kinda miss the old epitaph, but i think the new one is still a good label, it just expanded its reach a bit

[CellarGhosts]

Although I hate FFTL, Escape the Fate, etc, I don't agree at all about Atmosphere, HWM, the Black Keys, or Randy being on the shit list. I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, but I really like all those artists.

Espically HWM. They're kind of sacred to me...

[mht]

well whatever there are still good bands on Epitaph, I dont give a shit what anyone says Equal Vision currently has the shittiest roster with the shittiest bands that are ruining music today, go right down the line of suck on their roster page. (Chiodos, Circa Survive, Fear Before the March of Flames, Goodbye Tomorrow, Dear and Crossing Snake Crowns, Coheed Prize Fighting Cambria Inferno, whatever the fuck those bands on that label are called with their goofy names they fucking suck.)

[MIKEY_HORROR]

although some bands on Epitaph suck...its definately not the worst label out there...

I agree with Mike that Equal visions is the worst out there... except I like FBTMOF ...haha..and shame on you for putting them in that list of shit bands...

[mcr_fob_aarx3]

The Higher is good...

[duhpunk]

not really. are you trying to tell me that im narrow minded for thinking bands like Aiden are talentless hacks formed only to make some dough? Or that almost all of the bands on there are generic metalcore rip-offs from good bands like Botch? I think its stupid to try and justify the fact that all these bands are cookie-cutter clones of bands previous are actually good bands, and that not liking them or saying they suck, which is true, is "close minded." I would be ignorant if I said "all black people smell bad." I would not be ignorant if I said that Aiden and HH are bands processed for children who think eyeliner is emo and FOB is punk.

case in point, a majority of Victory bands blow, no two ways about it.

ill agree that HH, Aiden, etc. suck. but was i talking about them? obviously, you havent listened to BTBAM if you think theyre generic. theyre the only metalcore band i said. catch 22 and streetlight are ska, and comeback kid is hardcore. and i dont know what to call bayside, but definitely not metalcore. if you want to debate bands, then talk about them. not bands that neither one of us give a shit about. victory sucks, but unfortunately, they have a few good bands under contract.

[Troggy]

well whatever there are still good bands on Epitaph, I dont give a shit what anyone says Equal Vision currently has the shittiest roster with the shittiest bands that are ruining music today, go right down the line of suck on their roster page. (Chiodos, Circa Survive, Fear Before the March of Flames, Goodbye Tomorrow, Dear and Crossing Snake Crowns, Coheed Prize Fighting Cambria Inferno, whatever the fuck those bands on that label are called with their goofy names they fucking suck.)

hahaha. you make a good case. i do like coheed though. shrug.

[AP_Punk]

Epitaph signs Bring Me the Horizon (http://www.punknews.org/article/30407)

Damn.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

They did put out "The Ocean and the Sun" this year, I love that album.

[CellarGhosts]

There's still some good stuff on Epitaph, but their subsidiary labels and whatnot are much better (Anti- Records specifically).

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

There's still some good stuff on Epitaph, but their subsidiary labels and whatnot are much better (Anti- Records specifically).


The only thing I've heard from Anti- is the newest Locust release, which was awesome.

[CellarGhosts]

The only thing I've heard from Anti- is the newest Locust release, which was awesome.
Ah. I never really listen to them, but alot of good stuff has been released on Anti-. Tom Waits has been on there for some time now. Billy Bragg, Jolie Holland, The Weakerthans, Joe Strummer & the Mescaleros, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds, Ramblin' Jack Elliott, and Porter Wagoner are all on Anti- as well.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

Ah. I never really listen to them, but alot of good stuff has been released on Anti-. Tom Waits has been on there for some time now. Billy Bragg, Jolie Holland, The Weakerthans, Joe Strummer & the Mescaleros, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds, Ramblin' Jack Elliott, and Porter Wagoner are all on Anti- as well.


Wow, never knew all of those were on Anti-. I love a lot of them, just never paid attention to them being on Anti-.

[CellarGhosts]

Wow, never knew all of those were on Anti-. I love a lot of them, just never paid attention to them being on Anti-.
Oh, cool. I gotcha. It seems like alot of the singer-songwriter types are on there now, after being on various labels over the years. Overall I think it's one of the most solid rosters out there. I have yet to encounter a band on that label that I dislike.

[Jaynicgurl]

bayside, between the buried and me, catch 22, comeback kid, and streetlight manifesto are all bad?
Haha, I was going to say something about Streetlight Manifesto. That band is too good for that label.



Motion City Soundtrack (at least their debut album)are excellent though.
True.

I agree that Decomposer is a lot more experimental than E Von Dahl, but I liked the fact that they seemed to be just playing simple and fun pop-punk tunes on E Von Dahl. The album starts off strong with "Dog Eared Page" and it really hits its stride and never slows down again with tracks 7 through 11. So, I found it to be a really good summer album.

I agree. I love the Matches, but E Von Dahl will always hold a special place in my life, it holds so many memories. And to me, is one of the most well-rounded albums I ever listened to.

[ThemChains]

Cadence Weapon

[AP_Punk]

Epitaph signs Bring Me the Horizon (http://www.punknews.org/article/30407)

Damn.

sigh.

wonder what other poop band they'll sign next.

[CellarGhosts]

It really is saddening to see it happen. Those Punk-O-Rama comps used to be fucking great, you know? I got into punk music through those things. Look at the track listing for like, volume 6 (since that's my favorite one of the series) and then compare it to "unsound":

From First to Last
Escape the Fate
Vanna
I Am Ghost
etc

still some good stuff on there like Youth Group, Bouncing Souls, The Draft, Bad Religion etc, but still...

[Matthew Tsai]

uh yeah. what's up w/ escape the fate and i am ghost?

[AP_Punk]

Agreed.

You also forgot their other recent signing, Sing It Loud. :yuk:

Crazy, man. And has it been 2 years since they put out the first Unsound comp? They haven't made a new one yet. It prolly wouldn't be good anyway. And I'm pretty sure I wouldn't buy it if it was going to have all those newer bands on it. Bleechh.

[CellarGhosts]

uh yeah. what's up w/ escape the fate and i am ghost?
It'll never make sense to me why a guy that seems as cool as Brett Gurewitz (who's in one of my favorite bands as well) would ever sign such awful bands to his label. I mean, how does it happen that the guy who wrote some of the most seminal punk rock songs of the 90's (and maybe of all time) ends up giving Bring Me the Horizon a contract?

Oh well.

Agreed.

You also forgot their other recent signing, Sing It Loud. :yuk:

Crazy, man. And has it been 2 years since they put out the first Unsound comp? They haven't made a new one yet. It prolly wouldn't be good anyway. And I'm pretty sure I wouldn't buy it if it was going to have all those newer bands on it. Bleechh.
Ugh, I know.

Haha yeah they said they were retiring the Punk O Rama series and starting Unsound, but there's only been that one volume of it so far. Who knows whats up there, but I agree, a new comp probably wouldn't be good anyway.

[AP_Punk]

epitaph for Old Epitaph
http://jasiralavi.googlepages.com/epitaph.jpg

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

I think I'll appreciate them more if/when they sign Circa Survive.

[CellarGhosts]

epitaph for Old Epitaph
http://jasiralavi.googlepages.com/epitaph.jpg
haha

[mht]

lol @ Converge being on the same label as some of these horrendous bands.

[versus_god]

It'll never make sense to me why a guy that seems as cool as Brett Gurewitz (who's in one of my favorite bands as well) would ever sign such awful bands to his label. I mean, how does it happen that the guy who wrote some of the most seminal punk rock songs of the 90's (and maybe of all time) ends up giving Bring Me the Horizon a contract?

Money. :shrug:

[AP_Punk]

They should just change the label name now.

[mht]

really though think about it with these "scene" labels right now and if you were in a band, any band really:

Equal Vision - just be a scene band and fucking suck.
Eulogy - Either have to be cookie cutter pop punk with terrible hardcore breakdowns, wear new era hats, or be tough guy chugga hardcore
Victory - signing your soul away here pretty much.
Tooth and Nail/Solid State - have to love jesus/god and either be very poppy garbage or write the shittiest chugga chugga music ever
Epitaph - have older punk ties and raw or be very IMAGE heavy and make terrible music but make the label mucho cash because that's what sells


so really where do you sign/lump yourself in with all the garbage?

[shit stroll]

Fat is still the best large indie label.

[mht]

Fat is a fucking imprint to Epitaph you goon face.

[AP_Punk]

really though think about it with these "scene" labels right now and if you were in a band, any band really:

Equal Vision - just be a scene band and fucking suck.
Eulogy - Either have to be cookie cutter pop punk with terrible hardcore breakdowns, wear new era hats, or be tough guy chugga hardcore
Victory - signing your soul away here pretty much.
Tooth and Nail/Solid State - have to love jesus/god and either be very poppy garbage or write the shittiest chugga chugga music ever
Epitaph - have older punk ties and raw or be very IMAGE heavy and make terrible music but make the label mucho cash because that's what sells


so really where do you sign/lump yourself in with all the garbage?

hahahaha. good summary of those labels.

[HelpMeSleep]

aren't The Matches on Epitaph? they're good.

[shit stroll]

Fat is a fucking imprint to Epitaph you goon face.
i'm pretty sure they're not.

[AP_Punk]

Fat is a fucking imprint to Epitaph you goon face.

I used to always think that too for some reason. But their FAQ section proved me wrong.

Who owns Fat Wreck Chords? I hear that it’s a diabolical cabal that is headed up by Mr. Brett, Lee Iacocca, and Charro?

Oooh, Charro. That would be nice. Fat Wreck Chords is an independently owned and operated record label founded by Fat Mike and his wife Erin. They still own it and they both still run the place.

http://www.fatwreck.com/community/faq

[thesafeword]

so u dont liek epitaph? u dum elitest u dont kno evrything... i bet that u dont liek victory 2, dum ffag.

[hxctyhxc]

so u dont liek epitaph? u dum elitest u dont kno evrything... i bet that u dont liek victory 2, dum ffag.
does this mean u like victory?...

[fadedmemories]

i'm kinda tired of arguing about From First To Last but... From First To Last is a good band in my opinion but HELL....i know this is gonna effect my poor excuse for a "rep" but i like em and think they have alot to offer
Agreed

aren't The Matches on Epitaph? they're good.
yup
really though think about it with these "scene" labels right now and if you were in a band, any band really:

Equal Vision - just be a scene band and fucking suck.
Eulogy - Either have to be cookie cutter pop punk with terrible hardcore breakdowns, wear new era hats, or be tough guy chugga hardcore
Victory - signing your soul away here pretty much.
Tooth and Nail/Solid State - have to love jesus/god and either be very poppy garbage or write the shittiest chugga chugga music ever
Epitaph - have older punk ties and raw or be very IMAGE heavy and make terrible music but make the label mucho cash because that's what sells


so really where do you sign/lump yourself in with all the garbage?
:-d haha Eulogy

[EchoPark]

Tony I pretty much agree with most of your posting except in the following points.

1.HWM most certainly do not suck.
2.Pennywise? The band who has released the same album for the last 15 years? Playing the same recycled and rehashed riffs time after time? Sorry but I have never been into this band.

I want to hear bands playing the classic fast 4/4 punk beat again. What's with all the off high hat tempos nowadays

[CellarGhosts]

Money. :shrug:
That's what I was thinking.

[versus_god]

Totally.

The Hot Water Music comment at the beginning of the thread made me cringe.

[lenard27]

really though think about it with these "scene" labels right now and if you were in a band, any band really:

Equal Vision - just be a scene band and fucking suck.
Eulogy - Either have to be cookie cutter pop punk with terrible hardcore breakdowns, wear new era hats, or be tough guy chugga hardcore
Victory - signing your soul away here pretty much.
Tooth and Nail/Solid State - have to love jesus/god and either be very poppy garbage or write the shittiest chugga chugga music ever
Epitaph - have older punk ties and raw or be very IMAGE heavy and make terrible music but make the label mucho cash because that's what sells


so really where do you sign/lump yourself in with all the garbage?

I agree with this mostly. With the exception of Equal Vision. They're probably my second favorite label behind Eyeball. I don't listen to too many Eyeball bands, but they seem to have a solid operation going on around there and I've never heard any one talk shit on them.

And I'll get hate for this but I really think Victory is starting to "get it" at least on the business and personal relations with their bands...now what they sign, on the other hand, is a completely different story.

[mht]

I agree with this mostly. With the exception of Equal Vision. They're probably my second favorite label behind Eyeball. I don't listen to too many Eyeball bands, but they seem to have a solid operation going on around there and I've never heard any one talk shit on them.

And I'll get hate for this but I really think Victory is starting to "get it" at least on the business and personal relations with their bands...now what they sign, on the other hand, is a completely different story.



if you push units for Victory, there clearly isn't a problem.


if you struggle, you better be ready to get no support from the label and get fucked in the ass.


so basically on that label, this is where the shit bands like Emmure thrive and the few good bands don't.

[ugman_2000]

I miss the days of the good old Punk-o-rama's got me into so many good bands

Punk-O-Rama 5 was always my favourite I still give that a spin every now & then - Dread to think what a comp from Epitaph sounds like nowadays

[Circa1628]

I miss the days of the good old Punk-o-rama's got me into so many good bands

Punk-O-Rama 5 was always my favourite I still give that a spin every now & then - Dread to think what a comp from Epitaph sounds like nowadays


yes!

I loved the Punk-0-Rama Comps. Did you ever get into the Give 'Em The Boot comps?

[Maxwell]

Didnt the Punk-O-Rama series turn into 'Unsound' or something?

[ugman_2000]

yes!

I loved the Punk-0-Rama Comps. Did you ever get into the Give 'Em The Boot comps?

Yeah I got a few but I prefered more of the Punk-o-rama comps

Didnt the Punk-O-Rama series turn into 'Unsound' or something?

Have no idea the last one I bought was punk-o-rama 6

[Circa1628]

Yeah I got a few but I prefered more of the Punk-o-rama comps





agreed, I still enjoyed them though

[thesafeword]

That's hot.

[summer skin]

hahahaha nothing like starting out spam "treating survivors of sexual abuse" and ending with "Very young ass teens"
TWLOHA has really gone downhill.

[Circa1628]

hahahaha nothing like starting out spam "treating survivors of sexual abuse" and ending with "Very young ass teens"
TWLOHA has really gone downhill.


haha amazing

[CellarGhosts]

If Porn showed people sticking rats in their ass then people would be posting


hahahahahaha

[fadedmemories]

haha

[CellarGhosts]

"Porn is making ass licking very common"

Oh man, I love spambots.

[Drown_The_City]

pennywise- lame
bad religion (yes i know theyre still on there, you moron)- pretty good
nofx- new stuff sucks
The (international) noise conspiracy- not too familiar with, but i love refused.
agnostic front- i'm sure their glory days were before epitaph
matchbook romance-suck
from first to last-suck
hot water music (wtf??)- how can you not like HWM??

Also, the Punk O Rama series is pretty weak. I applaud Epitaph for branching out from boring skate punk though... even if I don't like their newest bands.

Theyre on myspace records. get your facts straight.
And have you heard the 2 newest epitath signees?
Bring me the horizon and I set my friends on fire.
Horrible bands that stupid scene kids will eat up

theyre a money making machine.

and the matches are on it too. I like them

[Kerplunk_23]

Story Of The Year was a awesome pick to be on Epitaph in my opinion plus those guys always put out great albums,as for BMTH not so much a good pick.

[andrewa5]

I agree soty is a good signing, Bmth are an ok band but i dont think it was the best6 label choice for them...

[jaimieh613]

black keys are awesome. they are 2 guys, they are unique and they are extremely talented. they shouldn't be on eptiaph, but they are good

They're sick.

[GuitarR0cker1]

I mostly agree with this post but this was ruined by him saying HWM sucks.

[AP_Punk]

leg sex

[Genuma]

"Porn is making ass licking very common"

Oh man, I love spambots.
I totally quoted that line last time he posted.

[EmoRocKR182]

Yes, epitaph is almost entirely pure shit. I love MCS, but everything else is quite sad.
Well idk...i mean i love escape the fate and motioncity soundtrack r pretty good, not great but good. i watched mcs live and they r pretty good but wtvr. pennywise is great too and idk much bout the other new bands wit epitaph so i cant really say much heh

[Genuma]

Escape the Fate is one of the worst bands I've ever heard.

[versus_god]

The Bad Religion demos with Mr. Brett on vocals are a riot. A laugh riot.

[Genuma]

R I O T !

[versus_god]

R I O T W O A H O H M Y H A N D S I N T H E A I R

ch ch ch, ch ch ch.

[Genuma]

ch ch ch bang!

[CellarGhosts]

I totally quoted that line last time he posted.
Hahaha, noyceee

[fadedmemories]

Does new Epitaph sill blow, now that NFG is on Epitaph?

[Paulb-182]

Does new Epitaph sill blow, now that NFG is on Epitaph?

its up in the air

who else is on it now

[ugman_2000]

In my opinion yeah the shit bands to good bands ratio still is very much in the Shit bands favor

NFG were never really that great - I don't hate them but I've always thought they've put out ok pop punk nothing groundbreaking

[ugman_2000]

its up in the air

who else is on it now

Bring me the Horizon - nuff said

[Paulb-182]

i dont think new found are made to be groundbreaking really

although they have pretty much shaped pop punk into what it is today with their major influelce on fall out boy and others like them

[Paulb-182]

Bring me the Horizon - nuff said

agreed then, it is still shit haha

[ugman_2000]

i dont think new found are made to be groundbreaking really

although they have pretty much shaped pop punk into what it is today with their major influelce on fall out boy and others like them

I can see that they influenced a lot of the bands that are popular nowadays but I never really thought they were that good when they released the self titled & everthing I've heard from the releases that followed have yet to change my mind in thinking that they are just a run of the mill pop punk band

saying that my view doesn't really count when I'm not the biggest fan of that music - I like me some pop punk just not all the stuff thats about nowadays

[Paulb-182]

I can see that they influenced a lot of the bands that are popular nowadays but I never really thought they were that good when they released the self titled & everthing I've heard from the releases that followed have yet to change my mind in thinking that they are just a run of the mill pop punk band

saying that my view doesn't really count when I'm not the biggest fan of that music - I like me some pop punk just not all the stuff thats about nowadays

oh dont get me started on the new bands coming out calling themselves pop punk

theres no punk involved at all, utter shit they are haha

yeah i've always thought the guitar sound was far too thin on the self titled, sticks and stones and coming home i still think are awesome though

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

its up in the air

who else is on it now



The Sound of Animals Fighting are on Epitaph now. Do like.

[AP_Punk]

new found glory are now part of the epitaph roster.

can't wait for the punknews comments on that! :-d

[reissgoespunk]

can't wait for the punknews comments on that! :-d

Hahaha!

[AP_Punk]

http://www.punknews.org/article/30460

:-0

[ugman_2000]

Re: New Found Glory signs to Epitaph
by eazyd2 (http://www.punknews.org/users/eazyd2) on 2008-09-16 12:50:07
http://liverpoolfc.tv (http://liverpoolfc.tv/)
i agree ANTI- is great for homo pussy music
Re: New Found Glory signs to Epitaph
by Wentz_Equals_Death (http://www.punknews.org/users/Wentz_Equals_Death) on 2008-09-16 12:59:42
http://baskauskas.uber.com/blog (http://baskauskas.uber.com/blog)
the locust would like to have a chat with you
Re: New Found Glory signs to Epitaph
by dX927 (http://www.punknews.org/users/dX927) on 2008-09-16 13:11:35
It would just be a bunch of screaming with a random synth noise every couple of seconds.
That made me laugh a lot

[AP_Punk]

loll

[ugman_2000]

loll

After I've eaten I'm gonna make a Catterman pic

[AP_Punk]

doo it!!

[CellarGhosts]

haha, I'll make the Sainte CATherines :-d

[ugman_2000]

doo it!!


Hahaha I just found your myspace kirbie

I searched for a picture of Latterman no matter where we go in google images & found ur myspace

& dear god the pic of your avatar is massive

[ugman_2000]

haha, I'll make the Sainte CATherines :-d

:-d

[AP_Punk]

Hahaha I just found your myspace kirbie

I searched for a picture of Latterman no matter where we go in google images & found ur myspace

& dear god the pic of your avatar is massive

hahaha. amazing.

[FishAlotNBePunk]

I find it hilarious that there's still people out there that think Fat Wreck Chords is some sort of offshoot of Epitaph.

[Danny Schme]

TSOAF and NFG are now on Epitaph. Very different from the original Epitaph line up but good bands none the less.

[phil19]

seriously.....
i like Motion City Soundtrack. and the weakerthans. but what the fuck is up with new epitaph bands sucking so much corporate wang? you know the drill. you take old ass epitaph bands that rocked. examples include:
pennywise
bad religion (yes i know theyre still on there, you moron)
nofx
guttermouth
The (international) noise conspiracy
Dwarves
98 Mute
pulley
zeke
agnostic front

and you replace with shitty bands, or watch the classics (i.e. guttermouth and pulley) turn to shit. these new bands are a travesty to epitaph. such as:
matchbook romance
from first to last
new atmosphere sucks fucking balls.
randy
the black keys
hot water music (wtf??)

seriously. fuck epitaph. but some of its smaller branches do rock, so im not burying it all the way. the locust, elliott smith, dillinger four and the lawrence arms are on anti, and fat, respectively. but the epitaph name in general is shamed by this shit. punk o rama 5 was a groundbreaking fucking compilation. anybody agree with me? or are people that site finch as "post-hardcore rock" gonna come on here and nit-pick?

~tony

I agree with you in almost all of this. epitaph were my label of choice for a good many years. when i first got into punk, many of the bands were from the epitaph stable. Pennywise were the first punk band i got into and remain one of my favourite bands. land of the free is a classic album as you mentioned in another post. all their albums are quality if you ask me. the only album im not too keen on is the fuse. but they came back strong with reason to believe which i think is definatley up there with their best! these old school epitaph bands were the ones that really got me into punk in the first place.

this new direction that the label has taken is one which i dont really get. changing the punk-o-rama series to whatever the fuck its called now, is something i couldnt believe. all these artists such as atmosphere which they put on the last couple of punk o ramas i ddnt get. have them on the label if you want but punk-o-rama is for punk. which is why they changed the name im sure.
of the bands you listed as shit new epitaph, i actually really like matchbook romance. the others no, not so much.

so yeah basically i agree with you

[fadedmemories]

new found glory are now part of the epitaph roster.

can't wait for the punknews comments on that! :-d
It can't get any more punk than punknews

[SubrosaSeductiv]

seriously.....
i like Motion City Soundtrack. and the weakerthans. but what the fuck is up with new epitaph bands sucking so much corporate wang? you know the drill. you take old ass epitaph bands that rocked. examples include:
pennywise
bad religion (yes i know theyre still on there, you moron)
nofx
guttermouth
The (international) noise conspiracy
Dwarves
98 Mute
pulley
zeke
agnostic front

and you replace with shitty bands, or watch the classics (i.e. guttermouth and pulley) turn to shit. these new bands are a travesty to epitaph. such as:
matchbook romance
from first to last
new atmosphere sucks fucking balls.
randy
the black keys
hot water music (wtf??)

seriously. fuck epitaph. but some of its smaller branches do rock, so im not burying it all the way. the locust, elliott smith, dillinger four and the lawrence arms are on anti, and fat, respectively. but the epitaph name in general is shamed by this shit. punk o rama 5 was a groundbreaking fucking compilation. anybody agree with me? or are people that site finch as "post-hardcore rock" gonna come on here and nit-pick?

~tony

New Atmosphere is tight, not sure why you dislike it. There really is no genre change in his style, his flow is the same and his lyrics are still insightful, the beats laid down are tight and alternative as always. Unless you are bored and looking for a change you should be thankful that he is staying true.

[JimGray]

New Epitaph is not that bad, atmosphere owns shit, converge, hwm's last album was just fucking fine, randy is fun, etc.

Plus Bad Religion is dumb so I win you fail.

[SubrosaSeductiv]

New Epitaph is not that bad, atmosphere owns shit, converge, hwm's last album was just fucking fine, randy is fun, etc.

Plus Bad Religion is dumb so I win you fail.

Bing Bong Boop.

[AP_Punk]

epitaph doesn't care about punx anymore.

[SubrosaSeductiv]

epitaph doesn't care about punx anymore.


PUNK IS DEADDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!

[versus_god]

if you think punk's dead you haven't met my friends

[JimGray]

Bing Bong Boop.

Blip?

epitaph doesn't care about punx anymore.

True dat.

[SubrosaSeductiv]

if you think punk's dead you haven't met my friends

zomgz u dunt ev3n kn0 ab0ut mi punk st4tus.

[AP_Punk]

PUNK IS DEADDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/xplanesxmistakenx4xstarsx/emo.jpg

[JimGray]

Kirby is teh emoz

[last light]

NFG/Converge tour.

[AP_Punk]

NFG/Converge tour.

w/ bring me the horizon

[JimGray]

NFG/Converge tour.

I'd go.

[JimGray]

w/ bring me the horizon

Phail.

[SubrosaSeductiv]

w/ bring me the horizon

QFT only if NFG and Converge murder Olie Sykes

[AP_Punk]

and then they could pee on him!

[SubrosaSeductiv]

and then they could pee on him!

Not in that order though. I feel the pee is necessary first.

[AP_Punk]

i like the way you think.

[SubrosaSeductiv]

i like the way you think.

The last time I heard that was when I split the atom. I'll never forgive you Albert.

[shit stroll]

w/ bring me the horizon
w/Maylene and the Sons of Disaster?

[AP_Punk]

Epitaph signs Leathermouth (http://www.punknews.org/article/30866)

They would.

[versus_god]

Less Leathermouth more Leatherface.

[AP_Punk]

less mouth, more face?

[summer skin]

http://www.trutv.com/graphics/photos/serial_killers/notorious/texas_chainsaw_massa/Leatherface200.jpg
agreed.

[shit stroll]

haha.

[summer skin]

needs a new movie.

[TheOtherAndrew]

With Bad Religion getting terrible again this label has absolutely nothing to offer anymore.

[dancelukedance]

escape the fate and story of the year are good

[Burn That Shit]

escape the fate and story of the year are good

lol.

[summer skin]

With Bad Religion getting terrible again this label has absolutely nothing to offer anymore.
Converge.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Converge.
You're right. That's one.

[CellarGhosts]

Escape the Fate are the worst, biggest piece of garbage shit band ever.

[shit stroll]

if a wilhelm scream sign with epitaph, that will be two.

[dancelukedance]

Escape the Fate are the worst, biggest piece of garbage shit band ever.

Millencolin are shit, eveyone of their songs sound exactly the same

[TheOtherAndrew]

Millencolin are shit, eveyone of their songs sound exactly the same
They get a B- for at least making some of those songs decent.

[CellarGhosts]

Millencolin are shit, eveyone of their songs sound exactly the same
Thank you for proving that you are a fucking moron with terrible taste in music. I'll give you a point for an effort to sound intelligent though, because at least you tried.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Thank you for proving that you are a fucking moron with terrible taste in music. I'll give you a point for an effort to sound intelligent though, because at least you tried.
This kid's profile pic should be made into a smiley.

[CellarGhosts]

This kid's profile pic should be made into a smiley.
Haha, I'd like to see that. A smiley striking the "hey gals, I'm in a hawdcoar band, but I'm all effeminate and touchy-feely too!" pose.

[TheOtherAndrew]

:sceneasfuck:

[dancelukedance]

Thank you for proving that you are a fucking moron with terrible taste in music. I'll give you a point for an effort to sound intelligent though, because at least you tried.

You're a fucking twat. And baseball is the gayest sport on this planet. No to mention all of the other retarted games you americans call sport. FUCKFACE

[dancelukedance]

:sceneasfuck:

Yeah and you can go fuck yourself too

[TheOtherAndrew]

You're a fucking twat. And baseball is the gayest sport on this planet. No to mention all of the other retarted games you americans call sport. FUCKFACE
Oh peace dukelukedance

[CellarGhosts]

You're a fucking twat. And baseball is the gayest sport on this planet. No to mention all of the other retarted games you americans call sport. FUCKFACE
It took you that long to come back with this? Shit. You're on the ball, mangggg. Sure zinged me.
Nice job of playing the LOLZ FUCK U STOOPID AMERICANS card, that really just hasn't been done enough. The homophobic slur was just plain ACE too, man!!

It's all good though because you're still one of the most hated posters on the board (and rightfully so), so I'm good.

Overall, C for effort, F for final execution. Better luck next time.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Nice job of playing the LOLZ FUCK U STOOPID AMERICANS card, that really just hasn't been done enough.
He and Ben should get together and talk about "football."

[Burn That Shit]

uh yeah. what's up w/ escape the fate and i am ghost?


They're both bad bands that actually believe that they're unique.

[Until The Bombs]

Nothing wrong with football.

[CellarGhosts]

He and Ben should get together and talk about "football."
Haha. I've got nothing against soccer though.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Haha. I've got nothing against soccer though.
Me neither. I just have something against arrogant euros.

[CellarGhosts]

Me neither. I just have something against arrogant euros.
Ah, well in that case then yes, agreed. I have something against most arrogant people/arrogance in general too.

[AP_Punk]

lulz

[BSS182]

Yeah and you can go fuck yourself too
:smackhim:

[shit stroll]

You're a fucking twat. And baseball is the gayest sport on this planet. No to mention all of the other retarted games you americans call sport. FUCKFACE
:rotfl:

[TheOtherAndrew]

retartded

[CellarGhosts]

At least I got called a twat, which I've never been called that before. It was actually pretty fun.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Someone called me a twat for talking shit on AVA back in the day. I was psyched.


Now no shit talking is needed for AVA, instead just playing clips of them attempting to play live suffices.

[CellarGhosts]

I like Aussie/Kiwi slang. Irish and British slang is great too. So it's a good day when someone calls me a twat or drongo or whatever.

Haha, true that.

[sugarcoatedlies]

Vanna and I Set my friends on fire are okay

[phil19]

I like Aussie/Kiwi slang. Irish and British slang is great too. So it's a good day when someone calls me a twat or drongo or whatever.

Haha, true that.

lol i havnt heard that in so long! haha

[AP_Punk]

what's a drongo? haha.

[fadedmemories]

Someone called me a twat for talking shit on AVA back in the day. I was psyched.


Now no shit talking is needed for AVA, instead just playing clips of them attempting to play live suffices.
Agreed

[CellarGhosts]

lol i havnt heard that in so long! haha
haha. I like it.

[dancelukedance]

It took you that long to come back with this? Shit. You're on the ball, mangggg. Sure zinged me.
Nice job of playing the LOLZ FUCK U STOOPID AMERICANS card, that really just hasn't been done enough. The homophobic slur was just plain ACE too, man!!

It's all good though because you're still one of the most hated posters on the board (and rightfully so), so I'm good.

Overall, C for effort, F for final execution. Better luck next time.

Ok, for one i wasnt playing the "STOOPID AMERICANS CARD" that doesnt have to be said.

2. Im actually doing something with my life, im at work, not some fuckin nerd on the computer that replies to posts ASAP

3. I wasnt saying baseball was literally gay, i was implying its just plain boring RATSHIT.

4. And i dont really care if people like me on this forum, its really only ignorant pricks like you who listen to "better" music.

STOP CUTTING YOUR ARMS AND SLIT YOUR THROAT

[phil19]

what's a drongo? haha.

its a derogitory (sp) term.
its like an idiot.
so you might say something like stop acting like a drongo
or got some drongo on the phone.

[AP_Punk]

hahaha. awesome.

[CellarGhosts]

Ok, for one i wasnt playing the "STOOPID AMERICANS CARD" that doesnt have to be said.

2. Im actually doing something with my life, im at work, not some fuckin nerd on the computer that replies to posts ASAP

3. I wasnt saying baseball was literally gay, i was implying its just plain boring RATSHIT.

4. And i dont really care if people like me on this forum, its really only ignorant pricks like you who listen to "better" music.

STOP CUTTING YOUR ARMS AND SLIT YOUR THROAT
Okay, so I've seen idiotic attempts at "zinging" someone like this before, and this one is no different than all the others. So no dice, broski.

ZOMG YOU'RE AT WORK!!!! Good argument. You must be so much cooler than I am. Fuck. Also, I am aware of what you mean. However, saying something is "gay" whether you literally meant it or not, is still considered offensive. So again, no dice.

Oh and yes, most everyone on this board does listen to better music than you do.

Last line = most pathetic attempt at an insult I've seen in a long time. Please stop posting here, nobody wants you around, and you're contributing nothing. The end.

[TheOtherAndrew]

STOP CUTTING YOUR ARMS AND SLIT YOUR THROAT
haha :appl:

[dancelukedance]

Okay, so I've seen idiotic attempts at "zinging" someone like this before, and this one is no different than all the others. So no dice, broski.

ZOMG YOU'RE AT WORK!!!! Good argument. You must be so much cooler than I am. Fuck. Also, I am aware of what you mean. However, saying something is "gay" whether you literally meant it or not, is still considered offensive. So again, no dice.

Oh and yes, most everyone on this board does listen to better music than you do.

Last line = most pathetic attempt at an insult I've seen in a long time. Please stop posting here, nobody wants you around, and you're contributing nothing. The end.

You really are a fucking twat.

foxtrotuniformcharliekilo you!

And i will not stop posting here anytime soon, you're just too cool for school

[AP_Punk]

drongo

[TheOtherAndrew]

drongo

[ugman_2000]

Twat haha not used enough on these boards

[SaltyEyes]

You're missing a bunch of other epitaph bands.

The Matches
Escape the Fate
Bouncing Souls
Brimg me the Horizon
The Coup
The Higher
Rancid
Sage Francis
Tiger Army
Thursday


Matchbook Romance Broke up.
FFTL is on Interscope.
Atmospher is on Warner
Black keys and hotwater music are on other labels as well.

I think Epitaph is doing well.

[caLLmEnOoNe]

farewell

[Callym]

The Epitaph band I hate the most atm is Sing It Loud.

[SaltyEyes]

You're missing a bunch of other epitaph bands.

The Matches
Escape the Fate
Bouncing Souls
Brimg me the Horizon
The Coup
The Higher
Rancid
Sage Francis
Tiger Army
Thursday


Matchbook Romance Broke up.
FFTL is on Interscope.
Atmospher is on Warner
Black keys and hotwater music are on other labels as well.

I think Epitaph is doing well.

[Posthardcore]

Nice bump! I was going to say this dude was an idiot until i saw the date!

[fadedmemories]

I think Epitaph is doing well.
Yup

[llwilliamsll]

You're missing a bunch of other epitaph bands.

The Matches
Escape the Fate
Bouncing Souls
Brimg me the Horizon
The Coup
The Higher
Rancid
Sage Francis
Tiger Army
Thursday


Matchbook Romance Broke up.
FFTL is on Interscope.
Atmospher is on Warner
Black keys and hotwater music are on other labels as well.

I think Epitaph is doing well.


I bolded all the ones that matter.

[fadedmemories]

I bolded all the ones that matter.
:-d

[cscwell107]

Epitaph has New Found Glory now and Motion City Soundtrack, they don't blow at all

[SwiftSilentDead]

Isn't Tiger Army on Hellcat records?

I'm happy Thursday got signed to Epitaph. Epitaph has resources to support and promote a bunch of shitty bands, glad to see they can make a good signing every once and awhile. Converge is on Epitaph now too.

[Full Effect Ed]

Converge has been on epitaph for years....The Bouncing Souls sharing the same label as New Found Glory and Sing it Loud still doesn't sit well in my stomach

[andrewa5]

They went on a signing rampage and i think it will pay off for them!

[SaltyEyes]

They have the Matches. Theyre fine.

[TheOtherAndrew]

haha, did dancelukedance get banned?

[GlamourKillsUs]

I bolded all the ones that matter.

woah woah woah

slow down,

the matches and thursday

pretty sure they matter

[mht]

I bolded all the ones that matter.


ahahhahaha

[mht]

woah woah woah

slow down,

the matches and thursday

pretty sure they matter



pretty sure they are fucking terrible poop in mouth music

[TheOtherAndrew]

lol @ the Matches "mattering"

[the1]

Leathermouth are signing to Etipath

[AP_Punk]

Mitch Clem needs to make a new NN2S comic strip about Epitaph.

It'll be more appropriate than the recent ones about Fat. :-d

[TheOtherAndrew]

Mitch Clem needs to write more NN2S comic strips in general.

[AP_Punk]

that too.

[fadedmemories]

Leathermouth are signing to Etipath
Another bad band signed by Epitaph

[beem-dog]

pretty sure they are fucking terrible poop in mouth music

Probably the most eloquent post I've ever read

[AP_Punk]

Every Time I Die inks deal with Epitaph (http://www.punknews.org/article/31793)

[torres]

I wonder how different things would have been had Sublime chosen to sign with Epitaph rather than go with MCA Records.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Every Time I Die inks deal with Epitaph (http://www.punknews.org/article/31793)
Pretty sure this is the most tolerable deal they've made in a while.