Which band became increasingly worse as their career went by?

[Ouch]

Children of Bodom

Weezer

[wtksilchh1985]

I am disagreeing totally with you on Weezer...they still kickass....

i will have to say

Bury Your Dead....can't stand new singer...
Adema.....same thing

[Until The Bombs]

99.99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 999% of them.

[~~mitch~~]

The Academy is...
Queen
The Used
Van Halen

[GuitarR0cker1]

Almost all of them

[MADSTA]

The Fall Out Boyz.

[XXKILLXHANNAHXX]

Korn.

[~~mitch~~]

Korn.

Their last album was HORRIBLE

[XXKILLXHANNAHXX]

Their last album was HORRIBLE
I heard.

[Amen Amen]

underoath

[Twizx]

underoath

No.

Patrick Wolf

[Amen Amen]

No.



yes

[OdeToTheSun]

Sorta agree with Children of Bodom. Don't have any of thier newer stuff, I just have Follow The Reaper. Awesome album.

[Kbm600]

That's tough. Fall out boy comes to mind, but it didn't become dramatically bad.

I would say Taking Back Sunday rings a bell.

I mean, compare Tell All Your Friends to Louder Now.

(Louder Now isn't totally horrid, but Tell is obvious their greatest work and it just goes down from there.)

Oh, and definitely Armor For Sleep.

[Radio War]

I'm going to go with Kill Hannah. (The band.)

[Cheshire_Buddha]

I'm going to go with Kill Hannah. (The band.)

But Kill Hannah has been shit from the start.

Agreed on Taking Back Sunday.

[Radio War]

But Kill Hannah has been shit from the start.

Agreed on Taking Back Sunday.

...yeah, good point.

[IcedOpethBlind]

armor for sleep recently

christ.

[Chris Fallon]

Goldfinger, in my opinion, have gone downhill since their debut.

[versus_god]

Against Me!
Alkaline Trio

[Chris Fallon]

Alkaline Trio got better in the middle but has since dipped down in quality.

However, I still adore them.

[chipdip18]

Goldfinger, in my opinion, have gone downhill since their debut.

Goldfinger had some solid tunes. My brother saw them live when they came to Wild Waves Water Park. I was so jealous.

[summer skin]

Cold War Kids. new album is my biggest letdown of the year.

[tomakebelieve]

The Academy is...

This.

[versus_god]

Alkaline Trio got better in the middle but has since dipped down in quality.

However, I still adore them.
I probably agree with you. It all went downhill for me after From Here To Infirmary.

[summer skin]

I probably agree with you. It all went downhill for me after From Here To Infirmary.
once they had the name change it was all down hill...

[IWasaCamera]

Cold War Kids. new album is my biggest letdown of the year.
Haven't heard it yet. I mildly enjoyed their last one so I'm curious as to why this one is so disappointing.

[weeberteeoatser]

Cold War Kids. new album is my biggest letdown of the year.
I haven't gotten the chance to sit down and listen to it yet, but I've heard nothing but bad things about it. I completely fell in love with Robbers & Cowards too, so I was excited about this, but now I'm a little hesitant to listen.

[chipdip18]

I haven't gotten the chance to sit down and listen to it yet, but I've heard nothing but bad things about it. I completely fell in love with Robbers & Cowards too, so I was excited about this, but now I'm a little hesitant to listen.

You should give it a listen anyway, i did since they were/are streaming it on their myspace.

[weeberteeoatser]

You should give it a listen anyway, i did since they were/are streaming it on their myspace.
Of course I will. Just haven't had the chance yet. I heard a song or two when I first downloaded it. I don't remember hating it, but I don't remember anything standing out a lot or anything.

[summer skin]

Haven't heard it yet. I mildly enjoyed their last one so I'm curious as to why this one is so disappointing.

I haven't gotten the chance to sit down and listen to it yet, but I've heard nothing but bad things about it. I completely fell in love with Robbers & Cowards too, so I was excited about this, but now I'm a little hesitant to listen.
I went into it more here
http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=20450761#post20450 761
but it's just basically the antithesis of their last album. No longer fun, catchy, rock and roll. Just slow, meandering, indie rock with bad lyrics.

[ThemChains]

I went into it more here
http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=20450761#post20450 761
but it's just basically the antithesis of their last album. No longer fun, catchy, rock and roll. Just slow, meanderthal by torche is a better album, indie rock with bad lyrics.

Nice shout out.

[EchoPark]

I heard.


you only get one chance with me. Fuck it up and you wont get another. I'm tired of giving

[alice+interiors]

Children of Bodom

Weezer
Disagree, Hate Crew Deathroll was the peak of their career and that was in the middle. Blooddrunk isn't bad, either.

Weezer is correct, though.

[IWasaCamera]

I went into it more here
http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=20450761#post20450 761
but it's just basically the antithesis of their last album. No longer fun, catchy, rock and roll. Just slow, meandering, indie rock with bad lyrics.
So they get all jazzy? Hmm, this will either be brilliant or horrible.

[Mikeyx1230]

Im going to have to say Metallica.
There first 3 albums kicked ass IMO.
Then after that it all went download, shame really.

[wtfmates]

Atmosphere
Taking Back Sunday

And I really hope that new Cold War Kids isn't as bad as you say it is. I just downloaded it and was all pumped to listen to it then I came in here. Hopefully, I'll like it.

[SureAsRain]

That's tough. Fall out boy comes to mind, but it didn't become dramatically bad.

I would say Taking Back Sunday rings a bell.

I mean, compare Tell All Your Friends to Louder Now.

(Louder Now isn't totally horrid, but Tell is obvious their greatest work and it just goes down from there.)

Oh, and definitely Armor For Sleep.

i have to agree with you on both of these bands

taking back sunday went downhill after they stop incorporating
vocal rounds into their music!
like WTF? that's what made their music so good, not to mention "Miami" had god awful lyrics

same with armor for sleep two great cds then "smile for them" comes out
i bought it for 99 cents and i was still disappointing

i'd like to add The Used,
reason: "Liar Liar (burn in hell)"
that's all i have to say

[Kbm600]

i have to agree with you on both of these bands

taking back sunday went downhill after they stop incorporating
vocal rounds into their music!
like WTF? that's what made their music so good, not to mention "Miami" had god awful lyrics

same with armor for sleep two great cds then "smile for them" comes out
i bought it for 99 cents and i was still disappointing

i'd like to add The Used,
reason: "Liar Liar (burn in hell)"
that's all i have to say

I found liar liar to be catchy, Haha.

Awful, but catchy.

Also, Smile For Them had hits and misses. And I was hoping this new EP that came out would be solid. But it has no taste, no intriguing quality at all. No hits, all misses.

[SureAsRain]

I found liar liar to be catchy, Haha.

Awful, but catchy.

Also, Smile For Them had hits and misses. And I was hoping this new EP that came out would be solid. But it has no taste, no intriguing quality at all. No hits, all misses.

haha i can't agree with you with your first point
but, i agree with your second;
smile fore them did have some hits, but would you not agree that it felt very
shameless, dare i say corporate?
at least something to that degree

as for the ep i have yet to listen, but i'm probably just pass it up

[Kbm600]

haha i can't agree with you with your first point
but, i agree with your second;
smile fore them did have some hits, but would you not agree that it felt very
shameless, dare i say corporate?
at least something to that degree

as for the ep i have yet to listen, but i'm probably just pass it up


Yeah, they lost a lot of their edge and it was just too polished. Ben's voice is different to an extent as well.

Overall it depressed the fuck out of me considering I loved WTDWYAD so much.

[Regards]

No.

Patrick Wolf
Very yes.

[Mikeyx1230]

Taking back sunday and The Used both had awesome debut albums, its a shame they went downhill.

As for Armor For Sleep, i cant say i digg the new CD as much as the other 2, but, i dont hate it.

[caLLmEnOoNe]

the academy is

[nicgiovanni]

Norma Jean - Yah, everyone is probably tired of hearing "Memphis Will Be Laid To Rest", but I loved the first album and after losing Josh, they took a definite turn for the worst. I guess you have the the Chariot, but their songs aren't that solid. It's just a bunch of noise, which is cool, but nothing will ever beat that first album.

Taking Back Sunday had this amazing energy and thing going. It was like "Tell All Your Friends" was that energetic, high school album and then "Where You Want To Be" was like their going away to college album..."Louder Now" was just a combo of both, but just not good at all.

Every Time I Die - Last Night In Town and Hot Damn! were their best and then they just decided to go suck. Yah, the third one had catchy songs and good hooks, but the chaos in those first two albums are long gone and I miss it.

Le Tigre - I loved Bikini Kill. Always will. But I was excited when I heard Le Tigre's first album because it was so different from what she did in BK. It wasn't just distorted, out of tune guitars and school girl chants. Then they came out with "Feminist Sweepstakes", which was alright, but it reminded me of BK with drum machines and samplers. And then This Island came out....and it just BLEW DICK.

who else?

Jefferson Airplane, The Used, My Chemical Romance, Liz Phair, Neutral Milk Hotel(I'm sorry, but everything before or after "In The Aeroplane", is just boring), Be Your Own Pet, Yeah Yeah Yeahs(just "Show Yr Bones")...

I used to love the The Used and My Chemical Romance, as lame as it sounds. But nothing will ever replace the nostalgia for "Let It Bleed" or even "I'm Not Ok". Good pop hits. period.

[AlternateToLife]

The obvious ones that come to my mind are

Against Me!
Fall Out Boy

[Circoheeve]

basically all great bands have gone downhill. The only ones I can think of that haven't are Brand New (Devil and God was incredible) and Crime in Stereo and I guess Thee Early November. There are probably a few more. Most bands, if they don't totally redefine their sound after 2-3 albums just go bad because tey have nothing left to write. Thats why Brand New is so great. Cursive too.

[Ouch]

Opeth hasn't.

They went up from their debut Orchid to their best album Still Life. From their it's been a little bit inconsistent, Ghost Reveries is one of Opeth's worst, but Damnation ranks among the band's best.

To add to the list, Thursday.

[nicgiovanni]

i don't like the newest brand new album...yah, they're a few good songs, but that album is far from amazing. it maybe good even or solid, but i think people boost about it too much. it's just so....i can't think of the term. like they spent too much time on arranging songs and experimenting...i mean, when i heard there was a new brand new album coming out, i was so excited because it was so long ago that they put out "deja" and then when i heard the whole album, i was disappointed. they had all that time to do something great and they came out with something that everyone is comparing to radiohead and shit.

i like when adiohead is being radiohead.

and i like when brand new is being brand new. it's one thing to experiment, change sounds, whatever. but it was just way too boring for me.

[Circoheeve]

and i like when brand new is being brand new. it's one thing to experiment, change sounds, whatever. but it was just way too boring for me.
I would have agreed wth you in 06, but after about a year and a half I fell in love with Devil and God. Idk why, it just hit me eventually. Seeing them live like 4 time probably contributed too, there is so much emotion in limousine and you won't know, those songs definitely are the ones that drew me in

[Circoheeve]

The obvious ones that come to my mind are

Against Me!
Fall Out Boy

haha stop is such a terrible song

[secthagoals626]

the obvious example: Metallica
even tho the new album is a huge comeback imo
A Skylit Drive only has an ep and a full length, and they've already gotten much worse
singer changes are never good...

[SamEyes]

Lostprophets, agreed with Underoath.

[timbedinosaur]

New Found Glory, but their still good.

[angelusdomini]

From Autumn to Ashes

[XXKILLXHANNAHXX]

you only get one chance with me. Fuck it up and you wont get another. I'm tired of giving
Why the fuck are you using my thingy out of my profile?

[Ouch]

Disagree, Hate Crew Deathroll was the peak of their career and that was in the middle. Blooddrunk isn't bad, either.

Weezer is correct, though.

well you are sort of right, although Hatebreeder is my favorite album by them, after that they started getting worse and worse. Blooddrunk may very well be one of the worst albums of the year, stupid melo power death thrash metal.

Weezer is correct, though. In fact, I am starting to think that Red Album is even worse than Make Believe.

[Blakebear]

Coheed and Cambria...

More of a style change than anything I guess, but I would definitely have to say that their first to albums are their best. The newer stuff I still dig, but its more out of nostalgia and really wanting to still love this band than anything else.

Say Anything

Although with two releases-- I mean, I guess they have some earlier, pre-IAR stuff, but I'm not taking those into consideration-- it may be a little early to be passing any kind of judgement on the quality of the band's discography.

[andrewa5]

Coheed and Cambria...

More of a style change than anything I guess, but I would definitely have to say that their first to albums are their best. The newer stuff I still dig, but its more out of nostalgia and really wanting to still love this band than anything else.

Say Anything

Although with two releases-- I mean, I guess they have some earlier, pre-IAR stuff, but I'm not taking those into consideration-- it may be a little early to be passing any kind of judgement on the quality of the band's discography.

I disagree with you about say anything but strongly agree about Coheed and Cambria

[Scott Farcas]

anti flag everything after terror state is absolute garbage especially The Bright Lights Of America

[theseacaptain]

Weezer
Metallica (I only liked Kill Em All, the rest were mediocre or terrible)
Disturbed
Switchfoot (though Jon Foreman's solo owns)
Tiger Army
Pearl Jam
Gorillaz
Los Lonely Boys
Queensryche (everything after Mindcrime was terrible)
The Verve
The Melvins

[fly_guy]

Dont get me wrong, Taking Back Sunday is like, my favorite band. But they, IMO have gotten worse with time. Hopefully the up-comming album reverses that

[Giant Broccoli]

Underoath....too heavy for my taste, I loved their melodic/heavy sound.

[SanePsychotic]

anti flag everything after terror state is absolute garbage especially The Bright Lights Of America

I disagree. While The Terror State is a great album For Blood and Empire is a solid album, maybe a notch or two below TS. Bright Lights isn't their best work by any means, but I'm giving them credit for trying something different.

[ohioisforhaylee]

Panic at the Disco.
First album was good, but there second one sucked.

[c_rob2700]

Against Me!
Alkaline Trio
ahh, i take it your not a fan of New Wave?

[c_rob2700]

i don't like the newest brand new album...yah, they're a few good songs, but that album is far from amazing. it maybe good even or solid, but i think people boost about it too much. it's just so....i can't think of the term. like they spent too much time on arranging songs and experimenting...i mean, when i heard there was a new brand new album coming out, i was so excited because it was so long ago that they put out "deja" and then when i heard the whole album, i was disappointed. they had all that time to do something great and they came out with something that everyone is comparing to radiohead and shit.

i like when adiohead is being radiohead.

and i like when brand new is being brand new. it's one thing to experiment, change sounds, whatever. but it was just way too boring for me.
i hated the new Brand New album

[Kid B]

Underoath....too heavy for my taste, I loved their melodic/heavy sound.
The Changing of Times was their heaviest album. Also their first album.

[Kid B]

i hated the new Brand New album
Wooooow.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

The Changing of Times was their heaviest album. Also their first album.

i was about to disagree with you, but then it's always hard for me to judge how heavy TCOT is just because the actual quality of sound is so bad. i feel like if they made that album again now, you may well be right.

[c_rob2700]

Wooooow.
Tell me what was so great about it? i found the majority of the tracks were mediocre at best.

[lenard27]

The Changing of Times was their heaviest album. Also their first album.

Their heaviest album was Cries of the Past. The Changing of Times is probably next after that. Their first album (Act of Depression) is terrible, IMO.

[BrittanyIsWhack]

Fall Out Boy.. Their first two albums were OKAY but now they SUCK!

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

Their heaviest album was Cries of the Past. The Changing of Times is probably next after that. Their first album (Act of Depression) is terrible, IMO.

the first three are terrible

[Kid B]

Their heaviest album was Cries of the Past. The Changing of Times is probably next after that. Their first album (Act of Depression) is terrible, IMO.
Oh yeah, you're right, I get them both confused. Oh well, when they had Dallas they were way harder, so let's just leave it at that.

[Kid B]

Tell me what was so great about it? i found the majority of the tracks were mediocre at best.
You think TDAG was mediocre and you like YFW? That doesn't make any sense. Not one song on YFW can be classified as anything but mediocre. TDAG was a much more mature, complex, and all around better album.

[sandra92]

Linkin Park

[brokenmixtape]

Less Than Jake - their new stuff isn't horrible...just could never really get into anything after 'Anthem'

[circasuicide]

fall out boy: i think they have gotten worse in a general sense. tttyg was amazing, fuct was really good, ioh was good, but it showcase fob going from pop-punk to pop-rock. and from what i've heard of their new album, they are continuing in the vein of poppy bullshit.

afi: they made amazing music and really honed their sound with sing the sorrow....and then......well, you know.

against me!: have completely changed their sound.

avenged sevenfold: if they haven't sold out, i don't know who has.

alkaline trio: i thought crimson was just a little too cleaned up and poppy, but still good. agony and irony is more in the wrong direction in my opinion.

switchfoot: i think they peaked with the beautiful letdown. while their records after that arent bad, they arent better either.

i don't think underoath have gotten worse. i think you have to completely seperate the band between the changing of times and they're only chasing safety. different singers, different sound. old underoath was loud, fast, super heavy metal. and new underoath is loud, heavy in a different way, atmospheric hardcore. i think new uo have improved on each album and are one of the only bands that consistently gets heavier and keeps their beliefs and ideals intact.

i also don't think taking back sunday have gotten worse. i thin kthey have become more streamlined and less edgy, which i dont like. but they are still good.

i dont think anti-flag have gotten wrose at all. i think they have never made a bad album. bright lights isnt their best, but i feel like they probably had to eat it on their first major label album to get freedom on the next. which i dont agree with, but whatever. any band that has a song called, "your daddy was a rich man, your daddy's fucking dead" gets a free pass once in a while in my book.

[c_rob2700]

You think TDAG was mediocre and you like YFW? That doesn't make any sense. Not one song on YFW can be classified as anything but mediocre. TDAG was a much more mature, complex, and all around better album.
don't get me wrong there's some amazing songs on TDAG, i just think as a whole it's not very good

[Piplicioushhll]

Haste the day (don't get me wrong, I'm still a huge fan, but American Love was great, and I'm still in love with the CD when everything falls)
From Autumn to ashes
Underoath will always be good to me, but Dallas was such a good singer. Maylene is one of my favorite bands now.
Throwdown - they just suck now.

[secthagoals626]

Panic at the Disco.
First album was good, but there second one sucked.


Really? I thought the new one was much better...

[Posthardcore]

Red Jumpsuit

[c_rob2700]

Really? I thought the new one was much better...
well the first PATD album is more pop/punk/synth type stuff, and the new one is kinda 70's fashioned folk rock type stuff, so fans of the original hate the new, and fans of the new hate the old.

or most people just hate them all togehter

[c_rob2700]

Linkin Park
i take it you didn't like Minutes to Midnight?

a lot of old fans didn't, i liked it a lot though

[SanePsychotic]

i take it you didn't like Minutes to Midnight?

a lot of old fans didn't, i liked it a lot though

I'm an old fan and I liked it. But shhhh, don't tell anyone.

[SanePsychotic]

i dont think anti-flag have gotten wrose at all. i think they have never made a bad album. bright lights isnt their best, but i feel like they probably had to eat it on their first major label album to get freedom on the next. which i dont agree with, but whatever. any band that has a song called, "your daddy was a rich man, your daddy's fucking dead" gets a free pass once in a while in my book.

Bright Light wasn't their first major label album, For Blood and Empire was. And I think the majority of Anti-Flags would agree with me that For Blood and Empire is better than The Bright Lights of America.

But I agree with you on your general statement.

[c_rob2700]

I'm an old fan and I liked it. But shhhh, don't tell anyone.
i liked it a lot, i mean they couldnt of done nu-metal for very much longer and their sound needed to evolve.

Hands Held High was amazing

[SanePsychotic]

i liked it a lot, i mean they couldnt of done nu-metal for very much longer and their sound needed to evolve.

Hands Held High was amazing

As bad as this is going to sound, I really wish that they could keep making nu-metal and just really push it to the limit. I just don't think that they really "finished" that sound, if you know what I mean. The only reason why they changed their sound is to be more commerical, which I found somewhat depressing.

That being said, I acutally do like the direction they took with it. I think my favorite track is probably "Bleed It Out" because of the old-school LP feel to it. After that it'd be "In Pieces". "Hands Held High" was alright, but since that there wasn't as much rapping on the album it just seemed out of place. It would have been better if there was maybe another track like that on the record, possibly replacing "In Between", which to me fell flat.

[Rhysie G]

oasis

[c_rob2700]

As bad as this is going to sound, I really wish that they could keep making nu-metal and just really push it to the limit. I just don't think that they really "finished" that sound, if you know what I mean. The only reason why they changed their sound is to be more commerical, which I found somewhat depressing.

That being said, I acutally do like the direction they took with it. I think my favorite track is probably "Bleed It Out" because of the old-school LP feel to it. After that it'd be "In Pieces". "Hands Held High" was alright, but since that there wasn't as much rapping on the album it just seemed out of place. It would have been better if there was maybe another track like that on the record, possibly replacing "In Between", which to me fell flat.
wow. i couldn't agree more with "In Between", and my favorite songs on the album are the same as yours.
i also loved the closing Katrina track "The Little Things Give You Away".

[BSS182]

I think Taking Back Sunday is the answer to this question. Tell All Your Friends isn't so bad but from then on they are really hard to listen without getting really bored.

[SanePsychotic]

wow. i couldn't agree more with "In Between", and my favorite songs on the album are the same as yours.
i also loved the closing Katrina track "The Little Things Give You Away".

I thought that "The Little Things..." was a great closing track, even though the statement was a little late.

So how does MTM rank up against other LP albums? Mine would be Metora > Hybrid Theory > Minutes To Midnight.

[SanePsychotic]

I think Taking Back Sunday is the answer to this question. Tell All Your Friends isn't so bad but from then on they are really hard to listen without getting really bored.

I've never really enjoyed listening to TBS. Tell All Your Friends is boring to me and their newer stuff is just something I ignore all together. They weren't really all that great to begin with.

[BSS182]

I've never really enjoyed listening to TBS. Tell All Your Friends is boring to me and their newer stuff is just something I ignore all together. They weren't really all that great to begin with.
Yeah, they can get pretty boring but there are a few good songs off of Tell All Your Friends, but I can definatly see why someone would think they are boring.

[c_rob2700]

I've never really enjoyed listening to TBS. Tell All Your Friends is boring to me and their newer stuff is just something I ignore all together. They weren't really all that great to begin with.
Minutes to Midnight > Meteora > Hybrid Theory

I always liked LP since HT, but didn't start to love them till MTM.

[SanePsychotic]

Minutes to Midnight > Meteora > Hybrid Theory

I always liked LP since HT, but didn't start to love them till MTM.

Ha, I've liked them since 5th-6th grade. Then 7th grade came and I was all about Green Day.

Have you listened to Reanimation at all?

[c_rob2700]

Ha, I've liked them since 5th-6th grade. Then 7th grade came and I was all about Green Day.

Have you listened to Reanimation at all?
yeah, i mean i have it (and Collision Course), it's not bad.

i was all about Blink-182. and still am for that matter.

[theseacaptain]

poor Travis Barker...

*not sarcasm*

[BSS182]

poor Travis Barker...

*not sarcasm*
True, very sad what happened! :-(

[SanePsychotic]

yeah, i mean i have it (and Collision Course), it's not bad.

i was all about Blink-182. and still am for that matter.

I loved Reanimation when I first got it. Now it just seems kind of juvenile. Still love it for the nostalgia factor though.

Oh no, not Blink! Sorry, I am like the anti-Blink. They were decent and wrote some fun songs, don't get me wrong, but they just never seemed to progress until the end of their career. I just don't have the tolerance for bands that do not progress at all.

[SanePsychotic]

poor Travis Barker...

*not sarcasm*

I hope he's alright. He's a heck of a good drummer. Not the best but he's got talent.

[c_rob2700]

I loved Reanimation when I first got it. Now it just seems kind of juvenile. Still love it for the nostalgia factor though.

Oh no, not Blink! Sorry, I am like the anti-Blink. They were decent and wrote some fun songs, don't get me wrong, but they just never seemed to progress until the end of their career. I just don't have the tolerance for bands that do not progress at all.
yeah i know a lot of people don't like them, after TOYPAJ i was like "ok, this is awsome but i want some innovative stuff from these guys", and then they came out with their last album and it became my all-time favorite CD, i listen to that disk every day.
if they would of survived a few more years with their new sound they would have made history.

[BSS182]

yeah i know a lot of people don't like them, after TOYPAJ i was like "ok, this is awsome but i want some innovative stuff from these guys", and then they came out with their last album and it became my all-time favorite CD, i listen to that disk every day.
if they would of survived a few more years with their new sound they would have made history.
I really think their next C.D. would have been pretty amazing, I really do. Also, I got much love for the untitled album, it was something different but a side of them that grew on me, I also listen to that one a lot too.

[SanePsychotic]

yeah i know a lot of people don't like them, after TOYPAJ i was like "ok, this is awsome but i want some innovative stuff from these guys", and then they came out with their last album and it became my all-time favorite CD, i listen to that disk every day.
if they would of survived a few more years with their new sound they would have made history.

I don't know if they would have made history, but I think that they could have made some interesting music if they kept progressing. It's a pity what happened. I've listned to their untitled (self-titled? whatever) album and it's actually pretty good. It's just that if you take their whole discography there's just not a lot of depth. But hey, that's just me.

[c_rob2700]

I really think their next C.D. would have been pretty amazing, I really do. Also, I got much love for the untitled album, it was something different but a side of them that grew on me, I also listen to that one a lot too.
it's weird a lot of blink fans didn't like their untitled one, but god i don't think that album will ever get old to me.

it's such a shame that they broke up, i mean AVA & +44 are alright, but they will never be blink-182

[c_rob2700]

I don't know if they would have made history, but I think that they could have made some interesting music if they kept progressing. It's a pity what happened. I've listned to their untitled (self-titled? whatever) album and it's actually pretty good. It's just that if you take their whole discography there's just not a lot of depth. But hey, that's just me.
i can see how you couldn't find much depth in a band that sang "i wanna fuck a dog in the ass" but almost each album before untitled has at least one seriously amazing track on it.

[SanePsychotic]

it's weird a lot of blink fans didn't like their untitled one, but god i don't think that album will ever get old to me.

it's such a shame that they broke up, i mean AVA & +44 are alright, but they will never be blink-182

I think the only off shoot of Blink that's actually on par with them is Box Car Racer. I loved that album.

[c_rob2700]

I think the only off shoot of Blink that's actually on par with them is Box Car Racer. I loved that album.
oh yeahh, that is a great album.

after they split a bunch of people thought that Box Car Racer would re-form (minus Travis).

[SanePsychotic]

i can see how you couldn't find much depth in a band that sang "i wanna fuck a dog in the ass" but almost each album before untitled has at least one seriously amazing track on it.

It just seems that one or two "seriously amazing" songs per album is just...not good? Is that what I'm looking for here? I don't know. But Blink was good at being Blink so with that I have no qualms. It's just if you compare Blink to a lot of other bands that are similar (such as my beloved Green Day) they aren't so great. They just worked hard and got lucky.

[SanePsychotic]

oh yeahh, that is a great album.

after they split a bunch of people thought that Box Car Racer would re-form (minus Travis).

I don't think they could have gone on with that. After all it was a concept album and the story pretty much ended at the last track. Where could you have gone from there? No, AVA is better conceptually (which is what I think Tom's going for) because the story can go on, even though they more or less suck.

[c_rob2700]

It just seems that one or two "seriously amazing" songs per album is just...not good? Is that what I'm looking for here? I don't know. But Blink was good at being Blink so with that I have no qualms. It's just if you compare Blink to a lot of other bands that are similar (such as my beloved Green Day) they aren't so great. They just worked hard and got lucky.
well, i guess that's your opinion.
i'll keep to mine.

Green Day has always been alright to me, Dookie & American Idiot are the only albums i like.

[theseacaptain]

well, i guess that's your opinion.
i'll keep to mine.

Green Day has always been alright to me, Dookie & American Idiot are the only albums i like.


i used to like Green Day, but American Idiot was when i stopped

i like them, i just have no respect, they've ripped off a lot, and it kinda bugs me

[BSS182]

Yeah the Box Car Racer album is really good, one of those albums I will always listen to. Ha Ha there is my two cents.

[SanePsychotic]

i used to like Green Day, but American Idiot was when i stopped

i like them, i just have no respect, they've ripped off a lot, and it kinda bugs me

"Ripped off a lot"? What do you mean by that? Green Day have been around for 20 years and with each album they've progressed in a different way. If by "ripped off a lot" you mean that they ripped off other bands (I've heard accusations such as them ripping off the Replacements and Buzzcocks) then let me tell you something: that's all music is. If you boil any musician down to their core you can figure out their influences and say "they totally ripped so and so off". But Green Day didn't do that. They took their influences from various different bands (Replacements, Operation Ivy, some mainstream 80s bands, ect.) and put their own spin on it. Like everyone else in music.

Now if you're saying you don't like American Idiot because of the political connection then that's totally understandable, even though it's more of a social then political album. But I have no idea whatsoever where you're getting the "ripped off a lot" from. So please, enlighten me.

[theseacaptain]

"Ripped off a lot"? What do you mean by that? Green Day have been around for 20 years and with each album they've progressed in a different way. If by "ripped off a lot" you mean that they ripped off other bands (I've heard accusations such as them ripping off the Replacements and Buzzcocks) then let me tell you something: that's all music is. If you boil any musician down to their core you can figure out their influences and say "they totally ripped so and so off". But Green Day didn't do that. They took their influences from various different bands (Replacements, Operation Ivy, some mainstream 80s bands, ect.) and put their own spin on it. Like everyone else in music.

Now if you're saying you don't like American Idiot because of the political connection then that's totally understandable, even though it's more of a social then political album. But I have no idea whatsoever where you're getting the "ripped off a lot" from. So please, enlighten me.


i mean ripped off as in, they borrowed a lot of riffs and melodies note-for-note, like the Bassline for Hitchin' A Ride is note-for-note Stray Cat Strut by Stray Cats

Waiting takes the melody from Downtown, and the solo is the most obvious part

Brain Stew is the exact same chord progression as 25 Or 6 To 4 by Chicago

and yeah, that's why i didn't like AI, when Politics are too strong it just annoys me

oh, and to reiterate, i DO like Green Day, so i'm not flaming them, just stating

[circasuicide]

Bright Light wasn't their first major label album, For Blood and Empire was. And I think the majority of Anti-Flags would agree with me that For Blood and Empire is better than The Bright Lights of America.

But I agree with you on your general statement.

you're rite. i didn't realize fbae was on rca. it's a way better album for sure.

[SanePsychotic]

i mean ripped off as in, they borrowed a lot of riffs and melodies note-for-note, like the Bassline for Hitchin' A Ride is note-for-note Stray Cat Strut by Stray Cats

Waiting takes the melody from Downtown, and the solo is the most obvious part

Brain Stew is the exact same chord progression as 25 Or 6 To 4 by Chicago

and yeah, that's why i didn't like AI, when Politics are too strong it just annoys me

oh, and to reiterate, i DO like Green Day, so i'm not flaming them, just stating

Chord progressions get used over and over, so do boring basslines and quite a few melodies. This does not mean that they deliberatly took them from the songs. Things like that just happen, you know?

Yeah, I totally understand the politics thing. I guess it came to me at a time where I was forced to become more politically aware of the world. To each his own really.

I didn't really think you were flaming, but I've heard people say over and over that they don't like Green Day after American Idiot/Dookie numerous times because they've "sold out" or something along those lines. I'm not trying to be a prick, just stating stuff too. Sorry if I came off really harsh or something. Green Day is just one of those constantly put down bands on AP that I will defend to the death. Much like Yes.And? and MCR.

[cscwell107]

Haste the day (don't get me wrong, I'm still a huge fan, but American Love was great, and I'm still in love with the CD when everything falls)
From Autumn to ashes
Underoath will always be good to me, but Dallas was such a good singer. Maylene is one of my favorite bands now.
Throwdown - they just suck now.

I hate Dallas's vocals. Spencer's are way better. I can't even listen to the changing of the times all the way through

[circasuicide]

I hate Dallas's vocals. Spencer's are way better. I can't even listen to the changing of the times all the way through

i agree. i think dallas is talented for heavier, more metally vocals. i, for one, can not understand what he's saying and that bothers me. i can understand spencer 99% of the time.

[theseacaptain]

Chord progressions get used over and over, so do boring basslines and quite a few melodies. This does not mean that they deliberatly took them from the songs. Things like that just happen, you know?

Yeah, I totally understand the politics thing. I guess it came to me at a time where I was forced to become more politically aware of the world. To each his own really.

I didn't really think you were flaming, but I've heard people say over and over that they don't like Green Day after American Idiot/Dookie numerous times because they've "sold out" or something along those lines. I'm not trying to be a prick, just stating stuff too. Sorry if I came off really harsh or something. Green Day is just one of those constantly put down bands on AP that I will defend to the death. Much like Yes.And? and MCR.

i can understand accidentally getting chord progressions and lines, but when its THAT exact, i have to be fairly skeptical

and i'm politically aware, i just don't like having it shoved down my throat

and sweet, i love Green Day, i love MCR (especially Black Parade) and i LOVE Yes, they're amazing

[PopPunkMatt]

yes
Just...no.

[Indoor Living]

Armor For Sleep
Fall Out Boy

Every classic rock band ever that didn't stop once they'd past their prime. So pretty much every one of them except like Steve Miller Band.

[theseacaptain]

Every classic rock band ever that didn't stop once they'd past their prime. So pretty much every one of them except like Steve Miller Band.


^^this!

SMB will be timeless though

but whenever older bands release new albums, they make me wanna cry, like Foreigner, or Night Ranger, or Def Leppard...

[Indoor Living]

^^this!

SMB will be timeless though

but whenever older bands release new albums, they make me wanna cry, like Foreigner, or Night Ranger, or Def Leppard...


Right?! And AC/DC is making a new cd, along with Lynyrd Skynyrd (Who REALLY need to stop), and Queen is doing a new record without Freddie Mercury!! Fucking stupid.

[theseacaptain]

Right?! And AC/DC is making a new cd, along with Lynyrd Skynyrd (Who REALLY need to stop), and Queen is doing a new record without Freddie Mercury!! Fucking stupid.


exactly! AC/DC's been ungodly since Back In Black, i'll admit Brian has his voice back, but still

Lynyrd Skynyrd shoulda stopped when half the band died, or possibly before that

and Queen without Freddy Mercury is not only fucking stupid, its a FUCKING TRAVESTY!

[Indoor Living]

exactly! AC/DC's been ungodly since Back In Black, i'll admit Brian has his voice back, but still

Lynyrd Skynyrd shoulda stopped when half the band died, or possibly before that

and Queen without Freddy Mercury is not only fucking stupid, its a FUCKING TRAVESTY!

Ha! It's so good to see someone who's actually vocal about this! Nobody ever talks about this obvious problem. It's called classic rock for a reason.

[theseacaptain]

Ha! It's so good to see someone who's actually vocal about this! Nobody ever talks about this obvious problem. It's called classic rock for a reason.


same, i don't mind enjoying the classics, but you can't teach an old dog new tricks...or drag a dead one on the walk

ugh, and The Stooges new album made me wanna kick a puppy

[Indoor Living]

same, i don't mind enjoying the classics, but you can't teach an old dog new tricks...or drag a dead one on the walk

ugh, and The Stooges new album made me wanna kick a puppy

Well, yeah. Classic rock is awesome and will always be, well, classic. But New Classic rock isn't doing it for me. To Say the least.

[theseacaptain]

Well, yeah. Classic rock is awesome and will always be, well, classic. But New Classic rock isn't doing it for me. To Say the least.


exactly...i usually get sad when classic geniuses die...but then now that i think about it...they're no longer around to accidentally tarnish their name with new crap

[Indoor Living]

exactly...i usually get sad when classic geniuses die...but then now that i think about it...they're no longer around to accidentally tarnish their name with new crap

Ha, true that. It's sad how music gets ruined just to make that extra buck.

[theseacaptain]

Ha, true that. It's sad how music gets ruined just to make that extra buck.


as it always will be and has been

now i don't mind a band signing to a major label, or becoming poppier for the better...but when they try to get more money, and sound terrible doing so....its just depressing

and Aerosmith needs to stop releasing fucking Greatest Hits every year

[Circa1628]

Weezer

[Angylion Gefell]

Marilyn Manson, AFI.

[Lycanthrope]

I'm going to have to say Fall Out Boy- well I never really cared for them to begin with. I just noticed they seemed to fade really quickly.

[Punkk_Bitchh]

Avenged Sevenfold.
They used to be my all time favorite band,
Then they came out with City Of Evil,
Then they just went downhill from there.
Sell-outs!

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

haha

sellouts?

everyone "sells out", it pays the bills, get over it

[Punkk_Bitchh]

haha

sellouts?

everyone "sells out", it pays the bills, get over it

But change up your whole sound to make money???
There playing music for the wrong reason.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

really?

did M. Shadows tell you thats why they changed their sound?

why am i defending A7X, they suck anyway

[Lycanthrope]

But change up your whole sound to make money???
There playing music for the wrong reason.

I understand what you're saying, it's hella disappointing when a band you likes suddenly changes so that they can make the $$$, but some bands get into the industry for the wrong reasons.

Hence why I've never been a fan of someone like Madonna, who changes every album and charges 300 per ticket for a crappy show.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

I understand what you're saying, it's hella disappointing when a band you likes suddenly changes so that they can make the $$$, but some bands get into the industry for the wrong reasons.

Hence why I've never been a fan of someone like Madonna, who changes every album and charges 300 per ticket for a crappy show.

you can just stop talking...we get it

[Lycanthrope]

you can just stop talking...we get it


LOL!!!

I'm lol'ing so hard right now, and now I have "I hear your silence loud and clear" running through my head.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

i was worried you might think i was just being an asshole

[Lycanthrope]

i was worried you might think i was just being an asshole

*still laughing*

Naw, I know my musicccccccc

[Punkk_Bitchh]

really?

did M. Shadows tell you thats why they changed their sound?

why am i defending A7X, they suck anyway

Why else would they??

[prlyknitswtr]

is it true that M. Shadows had some weird vocal cord injury causing him not to be able to scream? i heard that a while ago haha not sure if its true or not. but ya they used to be borderline death metal. up there with cradle of filth, vocally anyway.

probably the band that has falled off the hardest would probably be Mae. listen to Destination:Beautiful and Singularity and it doesnt even sound like the same band. drastic change and STILL no recognition, just a loss of fan base.

[theseacaptain]

dc Talk

started out as Hip-Hop and were amazing, became Hard Rock and were amazing, then just became Pop...it was still great, just not nearly as good

but Tate, Tobymac and Kevin Max are all good solo, so its alright

[Indoor Living]

is it true that M. Shadows had some weird vocal cord injury causing him not to be able to scream? i heard that a while ago haha not sure if its true or not. but ya they used to be borderline death metal. up there with cradle of filth, vocally anyway.

probably the band that has falled off the hardest would probably be Mae. listen to Destination:Beautiful and Singularity and it doesnt even sound like the same band. drastic change and STILL no recognition, just a loss of fan base.

yeah, man. you heard right. If he had kept screaming for like 3 more months, he would've become a mute. He fucked up his vocal cords that bad.

And i also agree with Mae. Singularity is a good record, but it's SO much different.

[RamInGoreville]

*still laughing*

Naw, I know my musicccccccc

Explain this statement...

[Ouch]

is it true that M. Shadows had some weird vocal cord injury causing him not to be able to scream? i heard that a while ago haha not sure if its true or not. but ya they used to be borderline death metal. up there with cradle of filth, vocally anyway..

oh my fucking god

I lol even harder at "cradle of filth" even being mentioned as near death metal. They're hardly metal anymore, playing keyboard-centeric goth bullshit now, and they used to be crappy atmospheric symphonic metal band. Such a terrible band.

Also, are you fucking kidding me with A7x? Near death metal? Those were some of the worst screams I have heard in my life, they were so... metalcore, almost Atreyu screams. No where near real death metal. Listen to Death or Atheist or Cryptopsy for real death metal, don't patronize me with this false bullshit that doesn't even come close.

[nicgiovanni]

ok. we need to settle this once and for all.

Avenged Sevenfold have always sucked, even when they were a crappy metal band disguised as "hardcore". Now, they're just a crappy metal band disguised as hair metal. Lameeeeee.

Underoath were never good. It wasn't the fact they had heavy Christian undertones. They just sucked. Dallas was shitty as their first singer and he is shitty now in Maylene. Don't even get me started on this whole "southern rock/hardcore/metal" shit. Want Southern Rock? Listen to the Allman Brothers or 38 Special.

And Spencer is a fucking retard. ughhhhhhh.

But Avenged Sevenfold is death metal now? Oh reallyyyyyy. Pshhh. Give me Carcass.

[Ouch]

ok. we need to settle this once and for all.

Avenged Sevenfold have always sucked, even when they were a crappy metal band disguised as "hardcore". Now, they're just a crappy metal band disguised as hair metal. Lameeeeee.

Underoath were never good. It wasn't the fact they had heavy Christian undertones. They just sucked. Dallas was shitty as their first singer and he is shitty now in Maylene. Don't even get me started on this whole "southern rock/hardcore/metal" shit. Want Southern Rock? Listen to the Allman Brothers or 38 Special.

And Spencer is a fucking retard. ughhhhhhh.

But Avenged Sevenfold is death metal now? Oh reallyyyyyy. Pshhh. Give me Carcass.

I liked Walking The Fallen, other than that Avenged Sevenfold is completely bullshit.

I agree with you on Underoath.

[prlyknitswtr]

alright alright i retract my statement haha. cradle of filth can be described as black metal. by no means am i a fan of death/black/goth/thrash but i THINK cradle falls into one of those categories. M. Shadows screams at the time could have been called black metal or death depending on the band of the corresponding genre.

sounding the seventh trumpet is the avenged album i have in mind. i have not liked any other recording of theirs.

ax7 sucks, we can all agree, and move on....

i think the arctic monkeys have fallen off with their latest release as well. same goes for he is legend.

Schylar Croom of he is legend actually said that the only reason they made I am Hollywood is to attract a certain fan base. they never wanted that to be their style so the focused of the more hard rock southern style whatever you want to call it. schylar said also that this would weed out the people who were just in for the scene and not the music. kind of a weird move imo

[IWasaCamera]

Not necessarily with each release, but in general Belle & Sebastian.

[circasuicide]

ok. we need to settle this once and for all.

Avenged Sevenfold have always sucked, even when they were a crappy metal band disguised as "hardcore". Now, they're just a crappy metal band disguised as hair metal. Lameeeeee.

Underoath were never good. It wasn't the fact they had heavy Christian undertones. They just sucked. Dallas was shitty as their first singer and he is shitty now in Maylene. Don't even get me started on this whole "southern rock/hardcore/metal" shit. Want Southern Rock? Listen to the Allman Brothers or 38 Special.

And Spencer is a fucking retard. ughhhhhhh.

But Avenged Sevenfold is death metal now? Oh reallyyyyyy. Pshhh. Give me Carcass.

i never liked avenged. but i can see why metal kids would have liked them earlier in their career. my point on avenged is that they seem to me to be a classic case of selling out. i dont think they even remotely sound like they used to. and there's something about m. shadows that just makes you want to slap him.

as for underoath, i like them, and have been thoroughly ripped to shreds already for that very fact. i think dallas sounded like every other metally screamer in the scene. completely unable to make out his words. but i think spencer has a more melodic scream that you can actually decifer and his clean vocals are pretty good.

i dont get the 'southern rock' in regards to maylene.

[c_rob2700]

Explain this statement...
it's a +44 song,

[Bingham88]

ok. we need to settle this once and for all.

Underoath were never good. It wasn't the fact they had heavy Christian undertones. They just sucked. Dallas was shitty as their first singer and he is shitty now in Maylene. Don't even get me started on this whole "southern rock/hardcore/metal" shit. Want Southern Rock? Listen to the Allman Brothers or 38 Special.

And Spencer is a fucking retard. ughhhhhhh.

your just an upset asshole. calm the hell down dude. your also speaking as if what your saying is fact. its not its opinion, which you are entitled to. and in my opinion allman brothers and 38 special aren't very good. granted i do like Maylene and they are friends of mine and they are southern and amazing, but if your going to suggest southern rock to people on these boards atleast use some one good like Skynrd. just saying

[TheZeroKid]

i think the arctic monkeys have fallen off with their latest release as well

I'm gonn have to disagree, if you mean Favourite Worst Nightmare. If you're talking about Alex Turner's other project, The Last Shadow Puppets, then yeah I'd have to kinda agree with you.

[waterispoison19]

You think TDAG was mediocre and you like YFW? That doesn't make any sense. Not one song on YFW can be classified as anything but mediocre. TDAG was a much more mature, complex, and all around better album.

Actually Soco Amaretto and The No Seatbelt song are extremely good. Flashes to the future, you might say.

But yeah, BN has matured and gotten way better with each album

[Ouch]

cradle of filth can be described as black metal. by no means am i a fan of death/black/goth/thrash but i THINK cradle falls into one of those categories.

Cradle is hardly black metal. They are more cheesy gothic keyboard music that tires so hard to be obscure and weird. I just hate that band so much, so forgive me if I rant about it :-)

[theseacaptain]

Cradle is hardly black metal. They are more cheesy gothic keyboard music that tires so hard to be obscure and weird. I just hate that band so much, so forgive me if I rant about it :-)


thank God someone finally said it

Cradle Of Filth is the epitome of wannabe gimmick bands

[Ouch]

They're pretty much one of the worst bands considered "black metal" ever.

[schaft0620]

Against Me!
Alkaline Trio

I think that crimson is a great album by alk3 and Against me!'s best album is New Wave.

[schaft0620]

the academy is


FTW

[newrockid]

Wow, a Hartford Whailers Logo...wow. I think Cradle of Filth just dropped off the face of the Earth. They had a long minute of fame and their videos where pretty crazy.

[Indoor Living]

I'm gonna repeat myself, just to get other people's opinions on this.

Any classic rock band that came out with an album after they passed their prime. So pretty much every one of them besides Steve Miller Band.

[prlyknitswtr]

geez thats crazy i never thought so many people hated cradle. their older stuff was heavier but whatever haha im not really into that type of music i just wanted to come up with a comparison to old ax7.

[circasuicide]

I think that crimson is a great album by alk3 and Against me!'s best album is New Wave.


new wave? honestly? i just hate their new stuff. you have to admit they sound nothing like they used to. they're too poppy for my tastes.

[nicgiovanni]

your just an upset asshole. calm the hell down dude. your also speaking as if what your saying is fact. its not its opinion, which you are entitled to. and in my opinion allman brothers and 38 special aren't very good. granted i do like Maylene and they are friends of mine and they are southern and amazing, but if your going to suggest southern rock to people on these boards atleast use some one good like Skynrd. just saying

kid, i can tell you already know nothing about GOOD southern rock. the allman brothers are way fucking better than SKYNYRD. if you knew anything about southern rock, you'd know there was way better.

maylene sucks, period. THEY ARE NOT A SOUTHERN ROCK BAND. just because you've got long hair, a flannel shirt, and a pair of shitkickers on, doesn't mean you are southern rock. it just means you look dumb. or like you're redoing 1994 all over again.

nice try, alice in chains.

[nicgiovanni]

I'm gonna repeat myself, just to get other people's opinions on this.

Any classic rock band that came out with an album after they passed their prime. So pretty much every one of them besides Steve Miller Band.

um, not true. look at the rolling stones, sure they suck now, but if they would have broken up after the 60's, you wouldn't have such greats as some girls or sticky fingers.

and neil young still rocks.

[Indoor Living]

um, not true. look at the rolling stones, sure they suck now, but if they would have broken up after the 60's, you wouldn't have such greats as some girls or sticky fingers.

and neil young still rocks.


Not true? AC/DC. Lynyrd Skynyrd. Queen. Any 80's Glam band. Still don't believe me? You really loved all those albums? Sure, there are a few exceptions (I don't listen to either of the people you stated often at all, so that's probably why I missed them), but other than that, I know I'm right.

[Zack Haughton]

Gotta admit even though they're my favorite band, Crimson doesn't even COMPARE to Goddamnit or FHTI from alk3.

And for a change of pace.. Brand New got 10000x better as time went on

[Circa1628]

Gotta admit even though they're my favorite band, Crimson doesn't even COMPARE to Goddamnit or FHTI from alk3.

And for a change of pace.. Brand New got 10000x better as time went on


Alkaline Trio will never do better than From Here To Infirmary, I have accepted that, they are still really good in my opinion though.

[schaft0620]

new wave? honestly? i just hate their new stuff. you have to admit they sound nothing like they used to. they're too poppy for my tastes.


"poppy" u kidding me? new wave is a punk album to its core just because they sold tons of records. They wrote songs with the same themes as their older albums. The only thing this band lost was its low budget sound the songs still rock hard and there still as punk as it gets today

[Geldofpunk]

Weezer and Jimmy Eat World. Both only put out one really good album in my opinion. (Blue album and Clarity)

[versus_god]

"poppy" u kidding me? new wave is a punk album to its core just because they sold tons of records. They wrote songs with the same themes as their older albums. The only thing this band lost was its low budget sound the songs still rock hard and there still as punk as it gets today
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[circasuicide]

Excellent, secured package. Item as described. Very happy! Thanks! A++++++++++++

lol.

did their sound quality improve...yes. they got better equipment, got better at aformentioned equipment, and got better studios and producers.

true, the songs are still widely centered around the things they've always written about.

but, there is no arguing that their sound has become more poppy. listen to axel rose and then new wave and tell me new wave isn't poppy.

punk to the core? in ideals, but not in practice.

[Anthony Lutz]

No.

Patrick Wolf

I disagree with this one.

[Anthony Lutz]

Weezer and Jimmy Eat World. Both only put out one really good album in my opinion. (Blue album and Clarity)

I would have to go with Pinkerton being the best Weezer album...

[Anthony Lutz]

Alkaline Trio will never do better than From Here To Infirmary, I have accepted that, they are still really good in my opinion though.

I would have to say that Good Mourning is better than FHTI...

[Geldofpunk]

Opinions, opinions. ;-)

[schaft0620]

lol.

did their sound quality improve...yes. they got better equipment, got better at aformentioned equipment, and got better studios and producers.

true, the songs are still widely centered around the things they've always written about.

but, there is no arguing that their sound has become more poppy. listen to axel rose and then new wave and tell me new wave isn't poppy.

punk to the core? in ideals, but not in practice.

OK Ill end it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AWH7Vmz4pQ&feature=related

I've heard the hype about your band, Ive seen your video playing on the TV.
Publicity photos in magazines, no none of it makes me feel anything.
I would be lying to you if I did not say something.
That would make me feel like a politician.
A middle of the road opinion that no one finds offensive or challenging.
I'm not interested.
The stage is not a pedestal.
I don't think your bad people I just think that your aesthetic is horrible.
Please treat me with the same respect and candor.
I would appreciate the honesty.
A little less professional, a little more upfront and confrontational.

[SanePsychotic]

Gotta admit even though they're my favorite band, Crimson doesn't even COMPARE to Goddamnit or FHTI from alk3.

And for a change of pace.. Brand New got 10000x better as time went on

They've progressed. What Alkaline Trio is putting out now is better than the majority of the music that comes out of the "scene".

[theseacaptain]

i've noticed a lot of bands are more like Valleys, they'll have a few GODLY albums, a couple terrible ones, and then more godly or good ones

like Bright Eyes, or Nirvana, or Rage Against The Machine, or Beck, or REM, or Hole

Stone Roses got worse after the first album

[Circa1628]

I would have to say that Good Mourning is better than FHTI...

really? I have had a hard time getting into that album

[BJW7191]

I would have to say that Good Mourning is better than FHTI...


i used to think that... but i heard how miserable im dying tomorrow was and moved it down to 2nd

good mourning> fhti> s/t > anything else

and is it just me or are all their "unreleased" tracks desreving to be on fhti/ good mourning

hell yes= fhti

jaked on green beers= fhti

queen of pain = good mourning

while your waiting= good mourning

dead end road= either

war brain= good mourning


just seems like all those songs should have been on an actual album, not just remains


but i think a band that has gotten worse has been interpol... they just been going down down down :-(

[theseacaptain]

idk, i liked Antics more than Turn On The Bright Lights...but whatever their newish one was was terrible

[Bingham88]

kid, i can tell you already know nothing about GOOD southern rock. the allman brothers are way fucking better than SKYNYRD. if you knew anything about southern rock, you'd know there was way better.

maylene sucks, period. THEY ARE NOT A SOUTHERN ROCK BAND. just because you've got long hair, a flannel shirt, and a pair of shitkickers on, doesn't mean you are southern rock. it just means you look dumb. or like you're redoing 1994 all over again.

nice try, alice in chains.

first of all your a year older than me what make me "kid"? just currious...

skynyrd is amazing period.

maylene is actually very southern. do you know any one who is southern? i mean your from philly? thats northern as shit. you should trying being in the south before you know whats southern.

what the hell does alice and chains have anyhting to do with this friendly little argument we are having?

weird.

[BJW7191]

idk, i liked Antics more than Turn On The Bright Lights...but whatever their newish one was was terrible

the new one= minserable

antics was equal/ little less good

but turn... was spectacular

[theseacaptain]

the new one= minserable

antics was equal/ little less good

but turn... was spectacular


i LOVED Turn and Antics, but Antics was more detatched and hollow, that style really appeals to me, where Turn was much more full sounding

[phil19]

i used to think that... but i heard how miserable im dying tomorrow was and moved it down to 2nd

good mourning> fhti> s/t > anything else

and is it just me or are all their "unreleased" tracks desreving to be on fhti/ good mourning

hell yes= fhti

jaked on green beers= fhti

queen of pain = good mourning

while your waiting= good mourning

dead end road= either

war brain= good mourning


just seems like all those songs should have been on an actual album, not just remains


but i think a band that has gotten worse has been interpol... they just been going down down down :-(

alkaline talk!! im excited

i love both albums but id have to say that good mourning is better than from here to infirmary. but thats just my opinion.
as for those songe listed, i agree. alot of their unreleased tracks are among their best. jaked on green beers is one of my fave alkaline songs as is warbrain. hell yes is also one of their best songs.
queen of pain is my absolute favourite AK3 song. but this was on the split they did with hwm.
i think also that we can never break up is also a good song too. its one of my fav songs by dan

[BJW7191]

alkaline talk!! im excited

i love both albums but id have to say that good mourning is better than from here to infirmary. but thats just my opinion.
as for those songe listed, i agree. alot of their unreleased tracks are among their best. jaked on green beers is one of my fave alkaline songs as is warbrain. hell yes is also one of their best songs.
queen of pain is my absolute favourite AK3 song. but this was on the split they did with hwm.
i think also that we can never break up is also a good song too. its one of my fav songs by dan

i love alk3

i like the new direction they are headed in... it took me awhile to get into it, but then i remembered... pop-punk is my sernior year, and thats a part of my musical liking im leaving in the past... but their new stuff is sooooo different that im really excited. i was driving home from my 12 hour shift that ended at 5 am, i heard "help me" on the radio... i fliped my shit

i must say though... i used to be a skiba fan... but i find myself loving dans shit more

crawl, if we never go inside, emma, one hundred stories... etc

stellar band

[phil19]

i love alk3

i like the new direction they are headed in... it took me awhile to get into it, but then i remembered... pop-punk is my sernior year, and thats a part of my musical liking im leaving in the past... but their new stuff is sooooo different that im really excited. i was driving home from my 12 hour shift that ended at 5 am, i heard "help me" on the radio... i fliped my shit

i must say though... i used to be a skiba fan... but i find myself loving dans shit more

crawl, if we never go inside, emma, one hundred stories... etc

stellar band

alkaline trio is my favourite band ever.

yeah i like all their albums. i know alot of people dont like their new stuff though.
im a skiba fan myself. i like dans songs but my favourite alkaline songs tend to be matts.
i think my fav dan songs are proablaby message from kathleen, enjoy your day and we can never break up. though all those songs you mentioned are creat too. esp crawl

[katekate]

The Fall Out Boyz.
except their first album sucked anus

[phil19]

except their first album sucked anus

their first album was shit. their scond album take this to your grave is their best. then its all downhill

[Self-DefinedEgo]

Metallica. (Reload, Load, St. Anger, Garage Inc.) All mediocre except for the first 5 albums.
My Chemical Romance. (Come to think of it, were they ever fuckin good?!...)
Nickleback. (Any band that writes a song so fucking atrocious 'Rockstar' Fucking Cockstar...)
In Flames. (I absolutely love In Flames, but 'Reroute to Remain', 'Soundtrack to your Escape' and 'Come Clarity' are all crap... :rape: (Pratically what In Flames did to their Sound.)

[Latane]

easily Coheed

[tipoftheiceberg]

Goldfinger had some solid tunes. My brother saw them live when they came to Wild Waves Water Park. I was so jealous.

when was this!
i live like 15 minutes from there

[chipdip18]

when was this!
i live like 15 minutes from there

Many, many years ago. Like 7.

[skashroomking]

seriouslly!

most main stream super bands fucking suck so much balls, im talkin about all that emo crap

and i mean ALL of it

[MADSTA]

except their first album sucked anus
I don't count that one.

[Geldofpunk]

easily Coheed

I agree.

[theseacaptain]

seriouslly!

most main stream super bands fucking suck so much balls, im talkin about all that emo crap

and i mean ALL of it


Emo was never mainstream

what you're thinking of is Post-Hardcore or Pop Punk

[aoftbsten]

bloc party

first cd good
2nd- not bad
latest- can't really get into

[EndSerenading]

In Flames
Weezer
Green Day
Hopesfall (first 2 albums were great, 3rd was decent, last 2 were not that good at all)

[xEmlehx]

definitely fall out boy

[theseacaptain]

Screaming Trees, their first 4 albums were GOD, but they were so bad in the 90s i wanted to kick a puppy

[tipoftheiceberg]

Comeback Kid

Turn It Around - Fantastic
Wake the Dead - Great
Broadcasting... - Terrible

[prlyknitswtr]

my chemical romance

1st was great post hardcore
2nd was turning poppy bullshit
3rd was a stab at mainstream that was horrible.

[hXcMosh91]

No.

Patrick Wolf
word totally agree underoath's new album is amazing

[Ouch]

my chemical romance

1st was great post hardcore
2nd was turning poppy bullshit
3rd was a stab at mainstream that was horrible.

if my chemical romance had ever been good, then maybe.

[summer skin]

word totally agree underoath's new album is amazing
Emmure Liferuiner xAFBx Bring Me The Horizon As Blood Runs Black All Shall Perish A Day To Remember Four Year Strong Set Your Goals Underoath Bruce Springsteen Despised Icon The Devil Wears Prada ETID I Declare War I Killed The Prom Queen MyChildren MyBride Shark Punch Suicide Silence The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Emmure%0D%0ALiferuiner%0D%0A xAFBx%0D%0ABring+Me+The+Horizon%0D% 0AAs+Blood+Runs+Black%0D%0AAll+Shal l+Perish%0D%0AA+Day+To+Remember%0D% 0AFour+Year+Strong%0D%0ASet+Your+Go als%0D%0AUnderoath%0D%0ABruce+Sprin gsteen%0D%0ADespised+Icon%0D%0AThe+ Devil+Wears+Prada%0D%0AETID%0D%0AI+ Declare+War%0D%0AI+Killed+The+Prom+ Queen%0D%0AMyChildren+MyBride%0D%0A Shark+Punch%0D%0ASuicide+Silence%0D %0AThe+Tony+Danza+Tap+Dance+Extrava ganza)
Your life is a gimmick.

[Getup and Dance]

Emmure Liferuiner xAFBx Bring Me The Horizon As Blood Runs Black All Shall Perish A Day To Remember Four Year Strong Set Your Goals Underoath Bruce Springsteen Despised Icon The Devil Wears Prada ETID I Declare War I Killed The Prom Queen MyChildren MyBride Shark Punch Suicide Silence The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Emmure%0D%0ALiferuiner%0D%0A xAFBx%0D%0ABring+Me+The+Horizon%0D% 0AAs+Blood+Runs+Black%0D%0AAll+Shal l+Perish%0D%0AA+Day+To+Remember%0D% 0AFour+Year+Strong%0D%0ASet+Your+Go als%0D%0AUnderoath%0D%0ABruce+Sprin gsteen%0D%0ADespised+Icon%0D%0AThe+ Devil+Wears+Prada%0D%0AETID%0D%0AI+ Declare+War%0D%0AI+Killed+The+Prom+ Queen%0D%0AMyChildren+MyBride%0D%0A Shark+Punch%0D%0ASuicide+Silence%0D %0AThe+Tony+Danza+Tap+Dance+Extrava ganza)
Your life is a gimmick.

He will HXCMOSH your life away.

I also like how he has Bruce Springsteen randomly thrown in there.

[katekate]

their first album was shit. their scond album take this to your grave is their best. then its all downhill
That's true
I don't count that one.
oh well then you're right

[nicgiovanni]

first of all your a year older than me what make me "kid"? just currious...

skynyrd is amazing period.

maylene is actually very southern. do you know any one who is southern? i mean your from philly? thats northern as shit. you should trying being in the south before you know whats southern.

what the hell does alice and chains have anyhting to do with this friendly little argument we are having?

weird.

i have family in the south, jackass. and i'm pretty sure none of them like maylene or even think that maylene is a southern rock band.

infact, my aunt would probably say it's devil worshiping music because she's so fucking baptist it's not even funny.

don't try that you're so "northern" bullshit. i'm not even from philly, i just live here.

oh, don't know how you get one year in difference, when i'm 21 soon to be 22 and you still are 19. notice the word, TEEN.

later BROSKI.

[nicgiovanni]

Emmure Liferuiner xAFBx Bring Me The Horizon As Blood Runs Black All Shall Perish A Day To Remember Four Year Strong Set Your Goals Underoath Bruce Springsteen Despised Icon The Devil Wears Prada ETID I Declare War I Killed The Prom Queen MyChildren MyBride Shark Punch Suicide Silence The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza (http://www.absolutepunk.net/memberlist.php?do=getall&field5=Emmure%0D%0ALiferuiner%0D%0A xAFBx%0D%0ABring+Me+The+Horizon%0D% 0AAs+Blood+Runs+Black%0D%0AAll+Shal l+Perish%0D%0AA+Day+To+Remember%0D% 0AFour+Year+Strong%0D%0ASet+Your+Go als%0D%0AUnderoath%0D%0ABruce+Sprin gsteen%0D%0ADespised+Icon%0D%0AThe+ Devil+Wears+Prada%0D%0AETID%0D%0AI+ Declare+War%0D%0AI+Killed+The+Prom+ Queen%0D%0AMyChildren+MyBride%0D%0A Shark+Punch%0D%0ASuicide+Silence%0D %0AThe+Tony+Danza+Tap+Dance+Extrava ganza)
Your life is a gimmick.


hahahaha. i hate this music. three years ago, i would have totally been diggin' it.

i realize though...

the only reason i liked hardcore/metalcore...whatever you want to call it...

well, the reason it was so exciting was the dudes...the BROs....fucking each other up, gettin' sweaty...lookin' fine....going to a hardcore show is like an instant erection.

= D

I LOVE HARDCORE BOYS, I LOVE BOYS HARDCORE!

[sandra92]

i take it you didn't like Minutes to Midnight?

a lot of old fans didn't, i liked it a lot though

Is not that I didn't like that album .. I did , but I just think it's their worst .

[Nerdy91]

Really? I thought the new one was much better...
I love both of patds albums

[OneEightTwoZero]

I'm not gonna read 15 pages of thread, I noticed Weezer came up a few times and that is totally spot on and I also saw The Used and I was listening to their albums yesterday trying to determine whether or not to sell them, I haven't heard anything after In Love And Death, but I jocked that 1st album hard and the 2nd one had some catchy tunes...so I am not sure on that one

I'll add a few bands that I think (some may be already listed)

-Soilwork
-Atreyu
-Sparta
-Jimmy Eat World (Futures was better than Bleed American though)
-Taking Back Sunday
-I would have said Dashboard Confessional before The Shade Of Poison Trees
-My Chemical Romance (I wasn't ashamed to like them when they first started out and even on the 2nd record that was quite popular, but that 3rd record is shit in the bed outside of 2 songs maybe)

people would likely say The Get Up Kids, but I was into everything (except oddly enough Four Minute Mile) and some of those same people may say Saves The Day and I think everything is at least a little good (except I do not like Can't Slow Down)

I saw someone reference Opeth's Ghost Reveries not being good, you need to spin that a few more times because it's awesome...everything Opeth have ever done is golden

and as long as I see a few nu-metal bands in here...I will throw out one of the few that I like(d)

Finger Eleven, the first 2 records are awesome, all the way through...3rd record is solid with the exception of that hit single ballad "One Thing", they seemed very much intrested in trying to recreate another hit on their last album, Them Vs. You Vs. Me and that album sucks shit

[loveisdead]

Taking Back Sunday was the first band to come to mind.

[loveisdead]

I'd say the Spill Canvas too.

[theseacaptain]

i actually liked Atreyu's new album, i loved his melodic voice, not that he was a bad screamer, but his voice is so amazing

Quiet Riot, because once Ozzy took Randy Rhoades, they lost most of their talent

Screaming Trees

Suicidal Tendencies

Disturbed

A Perfect Circle

Guns N Roses

Thursday

The Melvins

Franz Ferdinand

The Verve, first 2 were God, 3rd was mostly God, 4th was shat

Boston, never quite lived up to the eponynomous

[nicgiovanni]

Thursday


everyone hates on thursday way too much.

waiting was pretty boring. a (post)hardcore band dressed in leftover joy division clothes.

full collapse was amazing.

war all the time was alright.

and a city by the light divided...was excellent. i thought.

the buzzsaw guitar that opens "we will overcome" is classic buzzcocks.

the rest of the album intertwines so many influences. i hear gy!be and early u2. good stuff.

ohhhhhhh.

and i never knew about untied nations! i love it!

[theseacaptain]

well i loved Thursday, but their last album was painful

[Circa1628]

A City By The Light Divided= Underrated

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

A City By The Light Divided= Underrated


Agreed.

[theseacaptain]

Blind Melon

[BJW7191]

A City By The Light Divided= Underrated

it might be me but fullcollapse, war all the time, city.. are all equally amazing... i love all of thursday

[Circa1628]

Agreed.


thank you

[nicgiovanni]

A City By The Light Divided= Underrated



completely underrated.

[OneEightTwoZero]

War All The Time is by far and away my favorite alum of theirs...I loved Full Collapse and Waiting and City were alright...but War All The Time is amazing the entire way through

[circasuicide]

I'm not gonna read 15 pages of thread, I noticed Weezer came up a few times and that is totally spot on and I also saw The Used and I was listening to their albums yesterday trying to determine whether or not to sell them, I haven't heard anything after In Love And Death, but I jocked that 1st album hard and the 2nd one had some catchy tunes...so I am not sure on that one

I'll add a few bands that I think (some may be already listed)

-Soilwork
-Atreyu
-Sparta
-Jimmy Eat World (Futures was better than Bleed American though)
-Taking Back Sunday
-I would have said Dashboard Confessional before The Shade Of Poison Trees
-My Chemical Romance (I wasn't ashamed to like them when they first started out and even on the 2nd record that was quite popular, but that 3rd record is shit in the bed outside of 2 songs maybe)

people would likely say The Get Up Kids, but I was into everything (except oddly enough Four Minute Mile) and some of those same people may say Saves The Day and I think everything is at least a little good (except I do not like Can't Slow Down)

I saw someone reference Opeth's Ghost Reveries not being good, you need to spin that a few more times because it's awesome...everything Opeth have ever done is golden

and as long as I see a few nu-metal bands in here...I will throw out one of the few that I like(d)

Finger Eleven, the first 2 records are awesome, all the way through...3rd record is solid with the exception of that hit single ballad "One Thing", they seemed very much intrested in trying to recreate another hit on their last album, Them Vs. You Vs. Me and that album sucks shit

saves the day does no wrong.

[skashroomking]

Emo was never mainstream

what you're thinking of is Post-Hardcore or Pop Punk

i dont think so, emo's selling out pretty horrorshow lately

[Protested Hero]

i dont think so, emo's selling out pretty horrorshow lately

No, he's right.

[theseacaptain]

i dont think so, emo's selling out pretty horrorshow lately


Emo died, there are no more Emo bands, it started in the VERY late 80s, and ended in the VERY late 90s

[domotime2]

less than jake

[ElBullEsMuerto]

Blind Melon


I don't know man I think soup and nico were great albums even though nico was never really finished.

How about Avenged Sevenfold? That first album was a pretty good metal record then it just got worse when someone told that dude he can sing. I didn't even bother to listen to the last 2

[DilesMavis]

The Changing of Times was their heaviest album. Also their first album.

I thought it went, Acts of Depression, Cries of the Past, and than The Changing of Times? Anyway. I'm not going to lie, I do like The Changing of Times album. I don't like anything after or before it, though.

[Amen Amen]

I thought it went, Acts of Depression, Cries of the Past, and than The Changing of Times? Anyway. I'm not going to lie, I do like The Changing of Times album. I don't like anything after or before it, though.

completely agree

[Shatter590]

i dont think JEW can do any wrong. Even Bleed American, though a bit poppier than usual, was awesome.

[Melkor]

Foo Fighters had a really cool first couple of albums and then have made the exact same mediocre album with a couple of singles for over a decade.

Stone Roses are the epitome of a band who's debut was incredible then just didn't pull it together. TBS I agree with.

[nicgiovanni]

Foo Fighters had a really cool first couple of albums and then have made the exact same mediocre album with a couple of singles for over a decade.

This is true. I liked every album up until One By One...that's when I started liking only the singles. "One By One", "Best Of You", "Times Like These"...great songs...maybe a few others.

But that new album...total shit.

[circasuicide]

i think its obvious that most bands degrade over time. kudos to bands like fugazi who were amazing, but still called it quits on good terms.

[larsthedrummer]

Boston.

[skashroomking]

Emo died, there are no more Emo bands, it started in the VERY late 80s, and ended in the VERY late 90s
good, because that shit sucks

[caLLmEnOoNe]

good, because that shit sucks
now when will pop punk die out?

[JBernal]

Eh...I gotta say AFI
Diehard fan...then they released Miss Murder. I jumped...no...vaulted off the bandwagon.
Eh...atrocious.

[schaft0620]

Metallica

[viva la cymche!]

Has anyone said Every Time I Die?

[phil19]

Eh...I gotta say AFI
Diehard fan...then they released Miss Murder. I jumped...no...vaulted off the bandwagon.
Eh...atrocious.

agreed. though their old stuff remains quality