Fuck The System

[You Vandal]

Long story short, I tried to get into a bar last night with a fake ID, the bouncer gave my ID to a cop, got an obstruction of justice ticket and a ticket for trying to get in the bar. 800 bucks. Devestating.

[Fallinto_rhythm]

If you were a girl that wouldn't have happened.

[You Vandal]

Yeah its bullshit. I dont get why I got the obstruction of justice. The bouncer gave the cops my fake, not me. They asked me if the information was correct on the ID, like if it was really me, and I said yes because it is my name and adress, just wrong birthday. And I showed them a credit card and student ID to prove it was my name. I never said I was 21 or that it was my real birthday. Then after they threatened to handcuff me if I didn't comply, I gave them my real ID.

[Fallinto_rhythm]

that sucks! when do you turn the big 21?

[You Vandal]

That's the worst part...in a month. November 6th. I'm definitely not drinking until then.

[HelpMeSleep]

that really sucks. 800 bucks is a fuck ton of money. :-(

[You Vandal]

Yeah, and I am a college student without a job. I will be going to the court date and hope it gets reduced. I really want them to drop the obstructing aspect, that will look bad on my record.

[Until The Bombs]

Yeah its bullshit. I dont get why I got the obstruction of justice. The bouncer gave the cops my fake, not me. They asked me if the information was correct on the ID, like if it was really me, and I said yes because it is my name and adress, just wrong birthday. And I showed them a credit card and student ID to prove it was my name. I never said I was 21 or that it was my real birthday. Then after they threatened to handcuff me if I didn't comply, I gave them my real ID.

Obstruction of justice.

[HelpMeSleep]

yeah, I definitely agree about getting that dropped. I have no experience with anything like this... all I have is a speeding ticket. so I can't really give much advice, but I definitely hope it works out okay.

[You Vandal]

Obstruction of justice.
Yes, I know.

[You Vandal]

I was drunk and stupid.

[Until The Bombs]

Yes, I know.

Obviously not.

Yeah its bullshit. I dont get why I got the obstruction of justice. The bouncer gave the cops my fake, not me. They asked me if the information was correct on the ID, like if it was really me, and I said yes because it is my name and adress, just wrong birthday. And I showed them a credit card and student ID to prove it was my name. I never said I was 21 or that it was my real birthday. Then after they threatened to handcuff me if I didn't comply, I gave them my real ID.

[4N6 science]

That sucks bro. Sorry you couldn't wait it out the one month. I hope they reduce your charges.

[You Vandal]

Well, I just told the cop that it really was me, which it was. When she said. "if i run your name will you come up as 21." I didnt reply. So really, all I was confirming about the ID was that it really was me. I know obstruction of justice is a really broad statute that can be applied pretty much however the officer wants, so I'm basically fucked.

[4N6 science]

I mean yeah. I know cops have that power, but hopefully they'll give you a second chance. I would assume this is your first run in with the law?

[You Vandal]

I have an underage from freshman year and a speeding ticket from high school.

[You Vandal]

I actually called up the officer that gave me a ticket today to try and set up a meeting to talk about it with her but all I got was her voicemail.

[Brandon Allin]

Canada.

[thesafeword]

Canada.
Sucks!

USA! USA! USA!

[nikilane]

I actually called up the officer that gave me a ticket today to try and set up a meeting to talk about it with her but all I got was her voicemail.

her...
girl cops suck, I'm a girl and I dread seeing a girl get out of a squad car. there no way of getting out of anything with a girl.
I got my Id taken away just shy of my 21st, in Chicago the cops/bars really aren't that strict depending on what area of the city you're in. I didn't have a fake, I used my old bosses id, because we look similar. When they took it away I got off easy, he just cracked it in front of me and denied me entry. If they had called the cops my license would be revoked until either 21 or 25 depending on your background, 50 hours of community service, court fees and a fine.

as for your record, as long as its not a federal offense after 6 months to a year you can pay to have it removed off your record, which when you get out of college and start job searching may be a good idea.
As for the judge lowering your fine they may swap community service hours for amounts taken off or ask politely for a payment plan, most judges will take that into consideration.
Your best bet is to dress nicely, be polite and respectible in court, tell the judge your situation with college,and that you weren't even thinking. then your judge will probably work something out with you.

[anamericangod]

Have fun in federal pound me in the ass prison.

[HelpMeSleep]

her...
girl cops suck, I'm a girl and I dread seeing a girl get out of a squad car. there no way of getting out of anything with a girl.
QFT. of all the times I've been pulled over, the only time I ever got a ticket was from a girl cop. there is absolutely no hope when you get pulled over by a girl cop. you're fucked.

Have fun in federal pound me in the ass prison.
I miss that movie. it's been way too long since I've watched it.

[lew_1987]

You broke the law, just admit it.

[ghostyouare]

Fake IDs are a felony in California. You are a dumb ass and im glad you got arrested.

[DannySniper]

Canada.

Australia.

I have NEVER been ID in Australia.

Not even when I was 15.

[Greg]

maybe when you got the underage you should have stopped drinking. apparently you suck at learning lessons. you better learn this one or you are headed down a really crappy road with a pound me in the ass prison time. seriously now, how dumb can someone be? it blows my mind.


oh and nikilane
as for your record, as long as its not a federal offense after 6 months to a year you can pay to have it removed off your record, which when you get out of college and start job searching may be a good idea.
As for the judge lowering your fine they may swap community service hours for amounts taken off or ask politely for a payment plan, most judges will take that into consideration.
Your best bet is to dress nicely, be polite and respectible in court, tell the judge your situation with college,and that you weren't even thinking. then your judge will probably work something out with you.

that would be a lie. he was thinking, but he was drunk so his thinking was altered. it is his own damn fault for getting drunk underage and then trying to get into a bar with a fake ID. this dude needs to man up to the consequences of his retard actions and learn from it so as to not be this stupid again.

[Brandon Allin]

Australia.

I have NEVER been ID in Australia.

Not even when I was 15.
True, but the land down under is a bit of a hike from America.

[thespearkid]

That sucks, man.

[atticus1492]

Lol I hope you piss off the cop and spend a year in jail.

[kaycey]

first time i ever drank at a bar i was 12 or something :-)

[caLLmEnOoNe]

first time i ever drank at a bar i was 12 or something :-)
lol how did u get away with that?
this guy needs to the same

[kaycey]

lol how did u get away with that?
this guy needs to the same
s'long as you've got money here, you've got booze .
also notice how i said that, that was the first time i drank in a bar, first time i drank i must have been 11.

[Burning Star IV]

Lol, underage drinking.

[DannySniper]

True, but the land down under is a bit of a hike from America.

Michael Phelps could swim it.

[nicgiovanni]

you got an underage as a freshman in college....and now you have an $800.00 fine for trying to get into a bar with a fake ID, knowing very well that if you get caught you can get into a lot of trouble...hmm...

as much as i hate cops and i do hate them a lot, you were asking for it. this is your fault. i mean, i would think you would learn after the first time with the underage. i am 21 years old, soon to be 22, and i've done many illegal things. a lot of them. but you have to be smarter than in your case my friend. i never had a fake id because A) i didn't want to risk the chances of getting into trouble which are way higher than you think B) drugs were way better than going to some bar and drinking. hahahahahaha.

it sucks you got the fine, but it could have been worse. i knew a kid who went to jail for two months in philly because he had a fake id. they told him it was false impersonation. so, the only person to blame is yourself. and the fact that you were a guy may or may not have had something to do with it. i went out with a friend who was underage and when they swiped the card that was obviously not here, they took the id, told her she had to leave and that was that. so don't play the gender card. it doesn't work.

[jagermeister]

You're a moron. You clearly broke the laws you're being charged for and now you're whining about it. Don't do stupid and illegal shit if you're going to be a little bitch about it when you get caught.

[nicgiovanni]

You're a moron. You clearly broke the laws you're being charged for and now you're whining about it. Don't do stupid and illegal shit if you're going to be a little bitch about it when you get caught.

SO TRUE.

you're my new hero.

mostly 'cause you like PBR.

[andrew4045]

You shouldve bailed when the ID was seized.

[nicgiovanni]

her...
girl cops suck, I'm a girl and I dread seeing a girl get out of a squad car. there no way of getting

QFT. of all the times I've been pulled over, the only time I ever got a ticket was from a girl cop. there is absolutely no hope when you get pulled over by a girl cop. you're fucked.

i love the sexism on this website. esp. when it comes from other girls. i'm glad it's ok for you guys to give people more reason to think less of women.

[HelpMeSleep]

i love the sexism on this website. esp. when it comes from other girls. i'm glad it's ok for you guys to give people more reason to think less of women.
well, it's true. that's how girl cops are. I wouldn't say it if I didn't speak from experience.

and I honestly don't think a whole lot of gender as a whole. so I don't really care.

[ArmoredSleep]

You shouldve bailed when the ID was seized.


Lol that would have been realllllly smart :rolleyes:



:stick:

[ghostyouare]

Lol that would have been realllllly smart :rolleyes:



:stick:
It would have been if he wasnt using his real ID info.

[nicgiovanni]

well, it's true. that's how girl cops are. I wouldn't say it if I didn't speak from experience.

and I honestly don't think a whole lot of gender as a whole. so I don't really care.

that's one person's experience. not everyone's. do you personally know every female cop? no.

you don't think a whole lot about gender, yet you say that all girl cops are way more likely to give you a ticket.

while i have no right to tell you what to believe, you are a woman. to discredit other women and to say that "all female cops are this way", seems a bit...irrational to me? such things allow other people, namely men, to also discredit woman as well. i'm not saying you should go march in the feminist pride parade, but maybe you should care about gender because it is still an issue. yes, it's true i believe that gender is a social construct that we must move away from, women's issues and feminism is still also important.

just sayin'.

[HelpMeSleep]

that's one person's experience. not everyone's. do you personally know every female cop? no.

you don't think a whole lot about gender, yet you say that all girl cops are way more likely to give you a ticket.

while i have no right to tell you what to believe, you are a woman. to discredit other women and to say that "all female cops are this way", seems a bit...irrational to me? such things allow other people, namely men, to also discredit woman as well. i'm not saying you should go march in the feminist pride parade, but maybe you should care about gender because it is still an issue. yes, it's true i believe that gender is a social construct that we must move away from, women's issues and feminism is still also important.

just sayin'.
I was playing guess who? at work today with my coworker and I was unfortunate enough to draw this blonde lady from the pile of people. my automatic reaction was ahh fuck. her first question, "male or female?", narrowed it down to 6 people out of like 25. and then she kicked my ass. because I had a girl.

women fail. as displayed by a simple children's board game.

[remedyeli]

I was playing guess who? at work today with my coworker and I was unfortunate enough to draw this blonde lady from the pile of people. my automatic reaction was ahh fuck. her first question, "male or female?", narrowed it down to 6 people out of like 25. and then she kicked my ass. because I had a girl.

women fail. as displayed by a simple children's board game.

I lol'ed so hard that I dropped my laptop :(

I wish I could play board games at work

[HelpMeSleep]

I lol'ed so hard that I dropped my laptop :(

I wish I could play board games at work
hahaha. I try =] sorry about your laptop though. :-(

that is the beauty of working with elementary school kids. although we weren't even playing with the kids so much as ourselves haha.

[remedyeli]

hahaha. I try =] sorry about your laptop though. :-(

that is the beauty of working with elementary school kids. although we weren't even playing with the kids so much as ourselves haha.

It's okay, my laptop had worse falls. :]

I have heard a lot of good things about people working with elementary school kids. I would LOVE to do that. I never see a guy doing it though :(
I think I would fit in, after all, I recently got addicted to go-gurts again.

[asmolitor]

Long story short, I tried to get into a bar last night with a fake ID, the bouncer gave my ID to a cop, got an obstruction of justice ticket and a ticket for trying to get in the bar. 800 bucks. Devestating.

no madison bar is worth 800 bucks. then again, not much else for the madison city police to do. except for maybe solve some murders, crack down on some armed robberies, you know, petty crimes like that.

[HelpMeSleep]

It's okay, my laptop had worse falls. :]

I have heard a lot of good things about people working with elementary school kids. I would LOVE to do that. I never see a guy doing it though :(
I think I would fit in, after all, I recently got addicted to go-gurts again.
you totally could! the guys are actually the best at it. they get more respect and they get it easier. but I'm like the good cop to our good cop, bad cop... and I'm always the favorite =] haha.

I never liked go-gurts! lol the one time my mom bought them I froze it because they said you could do that too on the commercials and it was disgusting and then I was scarred for life. the BEST kids yogurt was the sprinklins and they came with sprinkles that you'd mix in. loved those! =]

[remedyeli]

you totally could! the guys are actually the best at it. they get more respect and they get it easier. but I'm like the good cop to our good cop, bad cop... and I'm always the favorite =] haha.

I never liked go-gurts! lol the one time my mom bought them I froze it because they said you could do that too on the commercials and it was disgusting and then I was scarred for life. the BEST kids yogurt was the sprinklins and they came with sprinkles that you'd mix in. loved those! =]

Wow. How would I come about doing this? Is it for college, or do they pay you or what?
It sounds like a lot of fun.

I always loved go-gurts, but for some reason when I hit the 6th grade they totally escaped from my head. I forgot they even existed until I ran into a friend at walmart who had a box of them in her hand.

They made ones with sprinkles for them? That's so fucking sick, I want some!

[mattmatumbo]

Long story short, I tried to get into a bar last night with a fake ID, the bouncer gave my ID to a cop, got an obstruction of justice ticket and a ticket for trying to get in the bar. 800 bucks. Devestating.

thats the weakest shit i've ever heard. here in utah bouncers know how retarded the laws are so they'll tell you its fake and just ask you to try somewhere else.

[HelpMeSleep]

thats the weakest shit i've ever heard. here in utah bouncers know how retarded the laws are so they'll tell you its fake and just ask you to try somewhere else.
until I read this thread, I thought this was usually the case.

[nicgiovanni]

I was playing guess who? at work today with my coworker and I was unfortunate enough to draw this blonde lady from the pile of people. my automatic reaction was ahh fuck. her first question, "male or female?", narrowed it down to 6 people out of like 25. and then she kicked my ass. because I had a girl.

women fail. as displayed by a simple children's board game.

I feel sorry for you.

[HelpMeSleep]

I feel sorry for you.
I feel sorry for you and your lack of a sense of humor.

unless you feel sorry for me for losing the game, then I'd have to say I feel sorry for me too.

[nicgiovanni]

I feel sorry for you and your lack of a sense of humor.

unless you feel sorry for me for losing the game, then I'd have to say I feel sorry for me too.

that's what i meant...i guess i should put lol after. arghhhh.

guess who is ridiculous! ahhh.

[mattmatumbo]

until I read this thread, I thought this was usually the case.

i just think its surprising for utah in general.

[HelpMeSleep]

Wow. How would I come about doing this? Is it for college, or do they pay you or what?
It sounds like a lot of fun.

I always loved go-gurts, but for some reason when I hit the 6th grade they totally escaped from my head. I forgot they even existed until I ran into a friend at walmart who had a box of them in her hand.

They made ones with sprinkles for them? That's so fucking sick, I want some!
I get paid. I work for the city through the parks and rec department. it's the best job I've ever had =]

they were from dannon! they were so good! you know what else was awesome back in the day? dunkaroos! and fruit by the foots were pretty good too lol.

i just think its surprising for utah in general.
I just didn't know it was such a serious thing. I figured they just wouldn't let you in, not arrest you and slap you with a big, fat fine.

[remedyeli]

I get paid. I work for the city through the parks and rec department. it's the best job I've ever had =]

they were from dannon! they were so good! you know what else was awesome back in the day? dunkaroos! and fruit by the foots were pretty good too lol.


I just didn't know it was such a serious thing. I figured they just wouldn't let you in, not arrest you and slap you with a big, fat fine.

wow, how do you land a job like that? I wouldn't even know where to start haha.

I remember those! I always hated how sticky they could get though. Wow these are bringing back great child hood memories. I wish I could just re-live the 90's.

[HelpMeSleep]

wow, how do you land a job like that? I wouldn't even know where to start haha.

I remember those! I always hated how sticky they could get though. Wow these are bringing back great child hood memories. I wish I could just re-live the 90's.
haha. my old best friend was working there and we got together for lunch one day and she said they needed people and I should do it, but I couldn't at the time because of my school schedule. the next semester when my schedule worked, I facebooked her about it and she hooked me up! :-)

the 90's kicked ass! =]

[remedyeli]

haha. my old best friend was working there and we got together for lunch one day and she said they needed people and I should do it, but I couldn't at the time because of my school schedule. the next semester when my schedule worked, I facebooked her about it and she hooked me up! :-)

the 90's kicked ass! =]

nice. So where would you suggest me to go to find out more information about this? And what kind of qualifications would something like this in general have? I know it probably varies from state to state, but it should be generally the same.

It did kick ass!
Never again will I be so stoked in getting a new N64.

[eHaMpToN]

Long story short, I tried to get into a bar last night with a fake ID, the bouncer gave my ID to a cop, got an obstruction of justice ticket and a ticket for trying to get in the bar. 800 bucks. Devestating.

and your 20?
are you fucking kidding me. dude that seriously blows horse dick, usually around here they just shred

[HelpMeSleep]

nice. So where would you suggest me to go to find out more information about this? And what kind of qualifications would something like this in general have? I know it probably varies from state to state, but it should be generally the same.

It did kick ass!
Never again will I be so stoked in getting a new N64.
go to the city offices for your city or any that are close to you (mine isn't the one I lived in or the one I just moved to) and go to the parks and recreation department and find out if they have any after school programs like that. I also worked at summer camps during the summer through the city and that was pretty fun too.

I never had an N64. saddest thing ever. I mean, playstation was awesome but there was no mario, no donkey kong, no pokemon =[

[remedyeli]

go to the city offices for your city or any that are close to you (mine isn't the one I lived in or the one I just moved to) and go to the parks and recreation department and find out if they have any after school programs like that. I also worked at summer camps during the summer through the city and that was pretty fun too.

I never had an N64. saddest thing ever. I mean, playstation was awesome but there was no mario, no donkey kong, no pokemon =[

Sounds good. I'm deff going to check that out soon :]
thanks for telling me all of this.

I never did like the play station. I was OBSESSED with donkey kong and pokemon games. And of course, Mario Party. I think I'm going to rebuy them so I can capture my childhood memories.

[HelpMeSleep]

Sounds good. I'm deff going to check that out soon :]
thanks for telling me all of this.

I never did like the play station. I was OBSESSED with donkey kong and pokemon games. And of course, Mario Party. I think I'm going to rebuy them so I can capture my childhood memories.
no problem =]

well, I liked my playstation. crash bandicoot, rayman and megaman were totally awesome! but there were so many good games you couldn't have if you didn't have nintendo! =[ good idea! I've been playing pokemon on my old gameboy color! pretty awesome!!

[Hamlet]

Lol @ U

[skashroomking]

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