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Frank Giaramita
01/28/05, 11:35 AM
The acoustic version of Hawthorne Heights' (www.hawthorneheights.com) "Silver Bullet" is now available for download over at their pureVOLUME. (www.purevolume.com/hawthorneheights)

WSUskee
01/28/05, 11:38 AM
Instead of going acoustic I wish they would take out the screaming in some of there songs. I dont mind some screaming but in most of there songs it just doesnt fit and it seems like they would sound better with the just singing parts.

popdisaster00
01/28/05, 11:41 AM
you're not alone in thinking that...

10 bucks says they done down the screaming for the next album. or at least improve it..

velouriumCAMPER
01/28/05, 11:49 AM
Am I the only one who's thinking that they could've gone in an entirely different direction with their LP and made it sounds about a million times better than it actually did? I don't know, maybe I was just having a bad day, but I was really disappointed with that album.

two_days_slow
01/28/05, 11:52 AM
Am I the only one who's thinking that they could've gone in an entirely different direction with their LP and made it sounds about a million times than it actually did? I don't know, maybe I was just having a bad day, but I was really disappointed with that album.
I agree, I thought the production was horrible. Especially in the vocal department with the ever annoying screaming that we all complain about.

poppa Q
01/28/05, 11:53 AM
I could have sworn the title said 'Hawthorne Accident.' Should be a sign...

cdep
01/28/05, 12:10 PM
hasn't this song been up on their purevolume for a wicked long time?

SLADE775
01/28/05, 12:13 PM
I have never commented on this before, so here it goes

HH are not as bad as everyone seems to think they are.
I personally think there are MUCH better options in the genre, but people really get carried away with bashing them., and it's really redundant.
Anyone who said they could lose the screaming is right, they could and should,but likely wont.
I think this topic is more than tired, so give it a rest. :wink3:

fm8418
01/28/05, 12:18 PM
hasn't this song been up on their purevolume for a wicked long time?

yes but it says able to DOWNLOAD it now, not just stream

Booyah Achieved
01/28/05, 12:37 PM
these guys need to be stabbed

no, but seriously

IcarusInFlames
01/28/05, 12:47 PM
these guys need to be stabbed

no, but seriously

Yeah.

The funny thing is, so many people hate them now that liking them or hating them stirs up controversy... "Stop bashing them for christs sake" is the new battlecry...either way they deserve it. I saw them live once, and everything about them seemed horribly fake and played out. I'd rather they suck and be themselves than suck and put stickers on their album that say "for fans of Thursday and Taking Back Sunday"

Willy F
01/28/05, 01:00 PM
Their are worse bands than Hawthorne Heights.......but none that i can think of in that genre......

fm8418
01/28/05, 01:02 PM
Yeah.

The funny thing is, so many people hate them now that liking them or hating them stirs up controversy... "Stop bashing them for christs sake" is the new battlecry...either way they deserve it. I saw them live once, and everything about them seemed horribly fake and played out. I'd rather they suck and be themselves than suck and put stickers on their album that say "for fans of Thursday and Taking Back Sunday"


maybe VICTORY RECORDS put those stickers on them...maybe youre bashing the wrong people.

Ive seen them 3 times, openers, 2nd headliner and headliner. The last time was really good, all the bands were out on stage with them goofing off since it was last day of the tour, spitalfield, number one fan and everyone was dressed up in odd costumes

getawayvanmike
01/28/05, 01:04 PM
Yeah.

The funny thing is, so many people hate them now that liking them or hating them stirs up controversy... "Stop bashing them for christs sake" is the new battlecry...either way they deserve it. I saw them live once, and everything about them seemed horribly fake and played out. I'd rather they suck and be themselves than suck and put stickers on their album that say "for fans of Thursday and Taking Back Sunday"


Im a fan of Taking Back Sunday, Thursday........................... ..and a fan of Hawthorne Heights.

GAD_guy
01/28/05, 01:06 PM
i think the world could do without bands like hawthorne heights, a thorn for every heart, and other bands riding the coattails of a (should be) dying trend to squeeze easy money out of it. they do have a semblance of a talent, though, so i can only hate on them for their obvious exploiting of young kids who don't know any better.

SLADE775
01/28/05, 01:09 PM
these guys need to be stabbed

no, but seriously




seriously. Untill you have a Record out thats better, shut the fuck up.

getawayvanmike
01/28/05, 01:13 PM
i think the world could do without bands like hawthorne heights, a thorn for every heart, and other bands riding the coattails of a (should be) dying trend to squeeze easy money out of it. they do have a semblance of a talent, though, so i can only hate on them for their obvious exploiting of young kids who don't know any better.


Love em or hate them they write some really catchy stuff, theres no denying that. And I hardly doubt that they are trying to "squeeze easy money out of it" They play that style of music because thats what they listen to and like.

GAD_guy
01/28/05, 01:18 PM
If they were trying to squeeze easy money out of making music, they wouldn't be playing the style they're playing. Believe it or not, but most bands in this genre do all they can to support themselves. They're definitely not in it for the money; they had no idea their album would sell as many copies as it has.

how could they not? it follows the formula exactly man. they are like scientists mixing chemicals or something.

velouriumCAMPER
01/28/05, 01:18 PM
seriously. Untill you have a Record out thats better, shut the fuck up.

:00000720: funny.

chokeychicken
01/28/05, 01:18 PM
but guys..

WHAT ABOUT THE TRIPLE GUITAR ATTACK!?

GAD_guy
01/28/05, 01:19 PM
seriously. Untill you have a Record out thats better, shut the fuck up.

aghhhhhhh i've said this so many times before but i still HATE this argument. it makes my head hurt.

mediocrgreenday
01/28/05, 01:22 PM
dammit you guys at ap.net are obsessed with this band.. especially tate.

hate to me
01/28/05, 01:22 PM
im a fan of hawthorne heights ever since i heard them on a sampler i got with the new tbs album

sorry guys heh

velouriumCAMPER
01/28/05, 01:24 PM
but guys..

WHAT ABOUT THE TRIPLE GUITAR ATTACK!?

LOL! Good point. Dude it'd be awesome if they came out with a video and had choreographed shit like Sum 41 had for 'Fat Lip' or whatever song it was..., with like..., three or four guitarists just doing the same 'two-step forward, one-step backward' thing. I would die.

getawayvanmike
01/28/05, 01:25 PM
but guys..

WHAT ABOUT THE TRIPLE GUITAR ATTACK!?

What about the triple guitar attack??? Id like you to give me some reasons why 3 guitars in a band is so awful, just so you can prove that you arent an idiot finding another reason to bash on HH with no justification.

GAD_guy
01/28/05, 01:27 PM
What about the triple guitar attack??? Id like you to give me some reasons why 3 guitars in a band is so awful, just so you can prove that you arent an idiot finding another reason to bash on HH with no justification.

it's excessive and unnecessary. kind of like the number of times i've commented in this forum now.

getawayvanmike
01/28/05, 01:27 PM
it's excessive and unnecessary
How so???

SLADE775
01/28/05, 01:39 PM
aghhhhhhh i've said this so many times before but i still HATE this argument. it makes my head hurt.


C'mon man, I'm dyin for a good argument. :wink3:
why else would I say that. :lol2:

velouriumCAMPER
01/28/05, 01:54 PM
What about the triple guitar attack??? Id like you to give me some reasons why 3 guitars in a band is so awful, just so you can prove that you arent an idiot finding another reason to bash on HH with no justification.

(Not saying your wrong in any way but...)
Just how is having three guitars in a band worth it if the only thing two of three guitarists are doing is alternating between two notes on one string, and the third is strumming a three-chord progression. Don't get me wrong, less is more in a lot of ways, and if it sounds right, then that's what you go with. But remember how Jimmy Page would multi-track his guitar like 90 times for a song..., even if it was just for a single note at the two minute and ten second mark? Well that's what HH should do if they want that certain E# at that certain pre-chorus..., not throw a guitar on a completely different person and tell him to play four or five notes per song..., it just seems like a waste of a guitarist..., and more importantly..., a guitar.

slickwataris
01/28/05, 02:03 PM
You know, I'm actually digging this song. They're pretty decent without the screaming.

PaperclipAnemia
01/28/05, 03:07 PM
the acoustic version is decent.

not great...but I listened to it twice.

I'm a sellout.

PaperclipAnemia
01/28/05, 03:09 PM
is it cooler to hate good charlotte or hawthorne heights?

WSUskee
01/28/05, 03:24 PM
Honestly on here I think its cooler to hate on Hawthorne Heights but come on people are they better than Good Charlotte. I guess I just dont get it or maybe im not scene enough but I dont see how Hawthorne Heights are so bad. Are they original or amazing hell no but alteast give them props for being so fucking bad and still selling so many records. There arent many records in this genre that were released since Silence in Black and White that have out sold it. In my mind that is impressive out sell almost everyone but get bashed all the time I think they could care less about who wants to stab them for being a bad musician. Instead of bitching about them and saying you want them dead couldnt you just not open the HH post?

weworemasks
01/28/05, 04:22 PM
What about the triple guitar attack??? Id like you to give me some reasons why 3 guitars in a band is so awful, just so you can prove that you arent an idiot finding another reason to bash on HH with no justification.

because it is completely unnecessary. there are several bands with one guitarist that is more talented than all three of the hawthorne guitarists. and the singer plays guitar as good as avril lavigne.

getawayvanmike
01/28/05, 04:29 PM
because it is completely unnecessary. there are several bands with one guitarist that is more talented than all three of the hawthorne guitarists. and the singer plays guitar as good as avril lavigne.

Wow, I guess you showed me up there. You are 100% correct. That doesnt sound like the most uneducated post I have ever heard.

getawayvanmike
01/28/05, 04:32 PM
(Not saying your wrong in any way but...)
Just how is having three guitars in a band worth it if the only thing two of three guitarists are doing is alternating between two notes on one string, and the third is strumming a three-chord progression. Don't get me wrong, less is more in a lot of ways, and if it sounds right, then that's what you go with. But remember how Jimmy Page would multi-track his guitar like 90 times for a song..., even if it was just for a single note at the two minute and ten second mark? Well that's what HH should do if they want that certain E# at that certain pre-chorus..., not throw a guitar on a completely different person and tell him to play four or five notes per song..., it just seems like a waste of a guitarist..., and more importantly..., a guitar.

Ive read this 3 or 4 times and I guess im missing your point.

velouriumCAMPER
01/28/05, 05:12 PM
Ive read this 3 or 4 times and I guess im missing your point.

Well basically what I'm trying to say is that if you're going to have three guitarists..., it should come through in your music. Now..., maybe I'm just not hearing it, but it doesn't sound like it does with HH. What's always impressed me was listening to a one-guitarist band and saying..., 'Holy shit! How the hell does he do that?!' But listening to any one of HH's individual guitarists play is kinda like..., 'Wow..., I think I could play that drunk better than he does.'
No disrespect towards HH, nor yourself. But I think they should just up their playing..., that's all.

getawayvanmike
01/28/05, 05:18 PM
Well basically what I'm trying to say is that if you're going to have three guitarists..., it should come through in your music. Now..., maybe I'm just not hearing it, but it doesn't sound like it does with HH. What's always impressed me was listening to a one-guitarist band and saying..., 'Holy shit! How the hell does he do that?!' But listening to any one of HH's individual guitarists play is kinda like..., 'Wow..., I think I could play that drunk better than he does.'
No disrespect towards HH, nor yourself. But I think they should just up their playing..., that's all.

Well said, being the gentelmen that we are, we can just leave it at that.

velouriumCAMPER
01/28/05, 05:25 PM
Well said, being the gentelmen that we are, we can just leave it at that.

Well said..., best conversation I've had all day. Wish we could go out for a drink now. :35:

Willy F
01/28/05, 06:05 PM
is it cooler to hate good charlotte or hawthorne heights?


thats like asking is it cooler to hate dog shit or monkey shit.

burnpianoisland
01/28/05, 08:07 PM
What about the triple guitar attack??? Id like you to give me some reasons why 3 guitars in a band is so awful, just so you can prove that you arent an idiot finding another reason to bash on HH with no justification.

i think it was a joke dude. it made me laugh anyway.

splitsecond
01/28/05, 09:06 PM
What's so mysterious about people bashing HH? I mean, aside from the obvious played out genre they are raping, there is the most compelling reason:

"So cut my wrists and black my eyes.
(Cut my wrists and black my eyes)
So I can fall asleep tonight, or die.
Because you kill me.
You know you do, you kill me well.
You like it too, and I can tell."


I hope I dont have to explain this again.

weworemasks
01/28/05, 09:14 PM
Wow, I guess you showed me up there. You are 100% correct. That doesnt sound like the most uneducated post I have ever heard.

i wasnt trying to "show" you. i was stating my opinion. dont really understand your deal. i must admit, you have balls for sticking up for this shitfest.

What's so mysterious about people bashing HH? I mean, aside from the obvious played out genre they are raping, there is the most compelling reason:

"So cut my wrists and black my eyes.
(Cut my wrists and black my eyes)
So I can fall asleep tonight, or die.
Because you kill me.
You know you do, you kill me well.
You like it too, and I can tell."


I hope I dont have to explain this again.

another reason why this band is horrible.

glassjaw983
01/28/05, 10:39 PM
you know haworne heights is the worst fucking band they are horrible. they have a horroble live preformance, the screamer/guitarist sucks and is a ***got and cant do a single good move with his guitar and oh yea did i say there the wost fucking band

them
fall out boy
and senses fail all the worst fucking bands ever

PhDecontrol
01/29/05, 05:34 AM
Yeah.

The funny thing is, so many people hate them now that liking them or hating them stirs up controversy... "Stop bashing them for christs sake" is the new battlecry...either way they deserve it. I saw them live once, and everything about them seemed horribly fake and played out. I'd rather they suck and be themselves than suck and put stickers on their album that say "for fans of Thursday and Taking Back Sunday"

hey ignorant asshole...VICTORY DOES THAT!!! they were pissed that that was on there...they have no choice, stupid.

Blueskyburning
01/29/05, 07:53 AM
Band sucks anyway.

Acoustic version of that song is even worse than the original, it's weak as fuck.

MidniteVulture
01/29/05, 11:35 AM
Audio suicide.