NLCS: Phillies vs. Dodgers

[xbrokendownx]

i picked the brewers and the cubs

go figure.

[Broken Parachute]

This year's playoffs is just stupidly messed up, haha.

[crit]

Gm 1 LAD @ PHI Thu Oct. 9 @ 8 PM
Gm 2 LAD @ PHI Fri Oct. 10
Gm 3 PHI @ LAD Sun Oct. 12
Gm 4 PHI @ LAD Mon Oct. 13
Gm 5 PHI @ LAD Wed Oct. 15 *
Gm 6 LAD @ PHI Fri Oct. 17 *
Gm 7 LAD @ PHI Sat Oct. 18 *

All games on Fox.

[LeftWideOpen]

Dodgers in 7.

[rcrook]

Dodgers in 6

[Killadelphia]

pick the dodgers brandon!

I don't know what to predict, but I am extremely proud of this team getting over that hump. It should be a great series. If it does game 7, Philly will be absolutely crazy. If it is like the season series, all games played after Manny, the home teams will win their games, so Phillies in 7.

Thursday's game is definitely 8pm, I am not sure about the rest.

[The Big Timer]

Phillies in 5 or 6

[crit]

Dodgers in 6

[Killadelphia]

dear philly fans,

stay after the series and talk about our teams. don't just show up and leave when the playoffs are over.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

I said Phillies in 4 against the Brewers. But I did get the Dodgers-Cubs terribly wrong (great series, 5 games).

Dodgers in 6

[imirish06]

I'm fucking pumped! The Bank is going to be fucking LOUD Thursday.


Dodgers in 4.

[Chris M.]

I'll say Dodgers in 7 but I'm actually hoping the Phillies win just so I don't have stay up until 2 in the morning to watch World Series games.

[sweetforever]

Phils in 7

[Killadelphia]

I'm fucking pumped! The Bank is going to be fucking LOUD Thursday.


Dodgers in 4.

lol you talk about the crowd, but think we're getting swept?

[CubbyNick42]

Dodgers in 5

[Drew Beringer]

Mannywood in 7

[emkvetwin]

i apologize to all Cubs fans for their misfortune...

Dodgers in 6.

[Broken Parachute]

Dodgers in 5 I hope.

[StandMyBrothers]

Dodgers in 6

[64 % chance]

This is a tough one, but I'm going with phils in 7 because of home field advantage

[TheOtherAndrew]

Dodgers in 5.

[imirish06]

lol you talk about the crowd, but think we're getting swept?

lol I don't really think they're going to get swept. I just wanted the underdog trend to continue hahah

[Killadelphia]

I think the 2-3-2 will hurt the Phillies.

[CubbyNick42]

A 2-2-1-1-1 would be worse.

[when eye awoke]

Dodgers in 4.

[imirish06]

I think the 2-3-2 will hurt the Phillies.

dunno. not if they can at least win the 2 home games first. if they come BACK to philly with a chance to win it there I can't imagine how loud the stadium is going to be. it'll be a tough place to play

[Killadelphia]

dunno. not if they can at least win the 2 home games first. if they come BACK to philly with a chance to win it there I can't imagine how loud the stadium is going to be. it'll be a tough place to play

well if the series plays out like the regular season, it'll take all 7 games.

[GiggsOho]

Phils in 7, Hamels LCS MVP.

[imirish06]

Phils should play the NLCS in the maroon pin stripes

[Dirty Ernie]

What will the Dodgers rotation look like?

[SilenceBrokenTT]

Dodgers in 6...

And not until Thursday? Jeez...

At least it's on Fox so *hopefully* no FrankTV commercials.

[Dr. Acula]

Dodgers in 6.

[xerovision1]

dodgers in 7

[imirish06]

What will the Dodgers rotation look like?

DEAD MEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Killadelphia]

What will the Dodgers rotation look like?

lowe, billingsly, kuroda, maddux?

[Smithers]

this is a tough pick but i'm going with the dodgers because of the way they dismantled the cubs.

btw, does any pitcher on either staff besides Hamels really scare anyone?

[LegendaryX]

So im a Brewers fan, so i just got done watching the Phillies win the series. So here what i think:

If the Dodgers dont win one of the first two games, they wont win the series. The phillies offense didnt impress me, but their pitching was stellar. If LA can get the bats cracking, Philly wont hang with them

Ill go Dodgers in 6

[DaveFeelsRight]

this is a tough pick but i'm going with the dodgers because of the way they dismantled the cubs.

btw, does any pitcher on either staff besides Hamels really scare anyone?i like the dodgers rotation better.

[B-Bones]

I can't wait for this series. I'm really hoping the Dodgers sweep again but they'll probably blow it.

[xtheagonyscenex]

Phillies in 6.

[CubbyNick42]

this is a tough pick but i'm going with the dodgers because of the way they dismantled the cubs.

btw, does any pitcher on either staff besides Hamels really scare anyone?
Billingsley is a monster.

[pand75]

Phils in 6

[domotime2]

Dodgers in 5......

[Killadelphia]

10/9 - 8:22
10/10 - 4:35
10/12 - 8:22
10/13 - 8:22
10/15 - 8:22
10/17 - 8:22
10/18 - 8:22

[Scott Weber]

I'm taking the dodgers too.

[nateisawesome]

Dodgers in 6

[64 % chance]

10/9 - 8:22
10/10 - 4:35
10/12 - 8:22
10/13 - 8:22
10/15 - 8:22
10/17 - 8:22
10/18 - 8:22

is that all EST?

[CarlosLunes]

go phillies!!!

i only say this because when the red sox win the AL, i can hypothetically go to a world series game in philadelphia

[xbrokendownx]

yes its all EST..theyre not going to start games at 11:22 EST

[imirish06]

It's October 7th, and the Phillies are still playing baseball. I'm still taking it in. The last time this happened I didn't even have pubes

[imirish06]

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[laxcrs]

philly in 5

[Killadelphia]

go phillies!!!

i only say this because when the red sox win the AL, i can hypothetically go to a world series game in philadelphia

it'll be a tough ticket. SRO for game 1 Thursday is running anywhere between $150-200 a ticket.

[Bob Payne]

Phillies in 6. Better the Dodgers than the Cubs. Keep Kendrick as far away from this series as possible.

[Killadelphia]

Kyle Kendrick isn't on the postseason roster.

[BrandNizzler]

I'm just hoping it makes it to game 6. I have tickets. Standing room, but still it should be fun.

My real prediction is Phillies in 7. I think the Dodgers have a problem with all their right handed starting pitching against our left handed bats. Utley is DUE. Rollins and Victorino are hot. Werth is scorching hot, but against all this right handed pitching he may struggle a little bit. Unfortunately, Ruiz is an absolute bum, he's an easy out.

Speaking of Ruiz, did anyone see TBS totally screw up Ruiz's nickname when he came to bat in the first game of the brewers series? To people outside of Philly that probly don't know, Carlos Ruiz is nicknamed "Chooch" amongst his fellow players. When he came to bat, TBS put up the graphic with his batting average and other stats, and at the bottom it said, "Nickname: Cooch" - I couldn't stop laughing.

[xbrokendownx]

yea justin posted a picture of the screenshot when he came up in the other thread

[Drew Beringer]

yes, got here just in time

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Drew51/Photo61.jpg

[DaveFeelsRight]

tim mccarver is talkin smack about manny

[rcrook]

and nobody takes tim mccarver serious anyways because he has his head is so far up the yankees asses

[calipunkerz]

phillies... all the way

-peter

[Dirty Ernie]

Yes

[dekdog11]

phillies in 6

[itsmesean0630]

I'm hoping for Phils in 4 or 5. I'm gonna fucking freak if they win. With opening home field advantage, I feel they have a great chance.

[xbrokendownx]

no way the phillies sweep

[Killadelphia]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers9-2008oct09,1,1725883,full.column

best analysis on the series ever!!! I can't believe this idiot is even allowed to write.

[cahrishurr]

Phillies

[Smithers]

go phillies!!!

i only say this because when the red sox win the AL, i can hypothetically go to a world series game in philadelphia

this is what i'm thinking. it's a win-win either way though. either i can go to a WS game or they play against Manny.

[BrandNizzler]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers9-2008oct09,1,1725883,full.column

best analysis on the series ever!!! I can't believe this idiot is even allowed to write.

That was seriously some of the worst journalism I've ever read. There was absolutely no reasoning behind his opinions other than "dogerz cant lose 2 gamez in phily those waving towels only work once lol!!!"

If he uses the argument on Lowe being better than Hamels because he is a free agent, then why doesn't that same argument work for Moyer and Blanton? The fact that this guy actually has a job at a reputable paper is ridiculous.

Here are some good figures: The Phils are actually hotter than the Dodgers, despite what people from LA might think. In the last 20 games, the Phils are 16-4, while the Dodgers are only 12-8. I'm not knocking on Ramirez, he can be a great player, but in 10 games against the Phils this year, he is batting .212. If anyone knows how to pitch to Ramirez, it's his old hitting coach, Charlie Manuel.

I hate watching ESPN and hearing their analysts saying, "Ramirez will stop at nothing to go up against his old team in the world series." Someone needs to send them a memo that EVERY PLAYER on both the Dodgers and Phils will stop at nothing to get to the world series. It's almost like they're insulting the other players by saying they really don't have the motivation to play hard because they don't hold any grudges against an AL team. Trust me, everyone will play their hardest.

I think the Phils are the better team in this series. They have a much more balanced club. The one thing I'm worried about is that it's obvious that MLB and FOX want to see a Dodgers vs. Red Sox World Series. I'm hoping this doesn't affect the outcome of games.

And one more thing - maybe a dodgers fan can shed some light on this - I haven't seen Furcal play in awhile. The last time I saw him on a regular basis he was on the Braves. Does he still have that absolute cannon of an arm he had in Atlanta? Victorino and Rollins get a few hits slapping the ball deep in the hole between 3rd base and shortstop, but with an arm like Furcal's the plays will be a lot closer. Let me know if he still has that gun.

[CubbyNick42]

Here are some good figures: The Phils are actually hotter than the Dodgers, despite what people from LA might think. In the last 20 games, the Phils are 16-4, while the Dodgers are only 12-8.
Irrelevant.

I'm not knocking on Ramirez, he can be a great player, but in 10 games against the Phils this year, he is batting .212. If anyone knows how to pitch to Ramirez, it's his old hitting coach, Charlie Manuel.
If anyone "knew how to pitch to him," he wouldn't be the greatest right-handed hitter of our generation.

I hate watching ESPN and hearing their analysts saying, "Ramirez will stop at nothing to go up against his old team in the world series." Someone needs to send them a memo that EVERY PLAYER on both the Dodgers and Phils will stop at nothing to get to the world series. It's almost like they're insulting the other players by saying they really don't have the motivation to play hard because they don't hold any grudges against an AL team. Trust me, everyone will play their hardest.
The less you listen to ESPN analysts not named Kurkjian or Gammons, the better.

I think the Phils are the better team in this series. They have a much more balanced club. The one thing I'm worried about is that it's obvious that MLB and FOX want to see a Dodgers vs. Red Sox World Series. I'm hoping this doesn't affect the outcome of games.
Ugh, don't be that guy.

And one more thing - maybe a dodgers fan can shed some light on this - I haven't seen Furcal play in awhile. The last time I saw him on a regular basis he was on the Braves. Does he still have that absolute cannon of an arm he had in Atlanta? Victorino and Rollins get a few hits slapping the ball deep in the hole between 3rd base and shortstop, but with an arm like Furcal's the plays will be a lot closer. Let me know if he still has that gun.
Definitely.

[rcrook]

lol he calls that guy out for bad journalism and then gives some of the worst analysis ive ever seen

[xbrokendownx]

interesting to think about what you said Nick...Manny best right handed hitter of our generation. its possible, but how do you think he stacks up against Pujols and ARod? i know hes played longer but yea

[Killadelphia]

That was seriously some of the worst journalism I've ever read. There was absolutely no reasoning behind his opinions other than "dogerz cant lose 2 gamez in phily those waving towels only work once lol!!!"

Yeah, the guy is an idiot and I e-mailed him.

If he uses the argument on Lowe being better than Hamels because he is a free agent, then why doesn't that same argument work for Moyer and Blanton? The fact that this guy actually has a job at a reputable paper is ridiculous.

Blanton isn't a free-agent.

Here are some good figures: The Phils are actually hotter than the Dodgers, despite what people from LA might think. In the last 20 games, the Phils are 16-4, while the Dodgers are only 12-8. I'm not knocking on Ramirez, he can be a great player, but in 10 games against the Phils this year, he is batting .212. If anyone knows how to pitch to Ramirez, it's his old hitting coach, Charlie Manuel.

The Phillies are always streakingly hot or cold. On paper, I think they are probably better than the Dodgers, especially with a lineup filled with power-hitting lefties.

I hate watching ESPN and hearing their analysts saying, "Ramirez will stop at nothing to go up against his old team in the world series." Someone needs to send them a memo that EVERY PLAYER on both the Dodgers and Phils will stop at nothing to get to the world series. It's almost like they're insulting the other players by saying they really don't have the motivation to play hard because they don't hold any grudges against an AL team. Trust me, everyone will play their hardest.

Agreed, but ESPN is ESPN for a reason.

I think the Phils are the better team in this series. They have a much more balanced club. The one thing I'm worried about is that it's obvious that MLB and FOX want to see a Dodgers vs. Red Sox World Series. I'm hoping this doesn't affect the outcome of games.

If this was the case, it would have been Cubs vs Red Sox in 2003.

And one more thing - maybe a dodgers fan can shed some light on this - I haven't seen Furcal play in awhile. The last time I saw him on a regular basis he was on the Braves. Does he still have that absolute cannon of an arm he had in Atlanta? Victorino and Rollins get a few hits slapping the ball deep in the hole between 3rd base and shortstop, but with an arm like Furcal's the plays will be a lot closer. Let me know if he still has that gun.

Furcal is still very good.

[iihungrieii]

theres alot of people on campus with doyers gear on. alot more than i have ever seen

[BrandNizzler]

lol he calls that guy out for bad journalism and then gives some of the worst analysis ive ever seen

The difference being is that I don't call myself a journalist. It's his job to analyze and crunch numbers and with that make an educated prediction. I saw very little of that, therefore I criticized his work.

But hey, all opinions aside, just three and a half hours 'til this bad boy starts. Whoever wins this series, I just hope nobody gets hurt. It would be nice if the NL won it all this year, plus I think I speak for everyone outside of the New England area when I say I can't take another year of Red Sox fans bragging about how much better their team is.

Go Phils!

P.S. I think I heard a few days ago on Daily News Live that the Phils actually have a better winning percentage against left handed starters than they do right handed starters. I was kinda doing some work at the time so I can't be 100% sure, but I think it was David Murphy that reported that. Utley and Howard need to come through big time.

[CubbyNick42]

interesting to think about what you said Nick...Manny best right handed hitter of our generation. its possible, but how do you think he stacks up against Pujols and ARod? i know hes played longer but yea
Manny's career OPS is 34 points higher than A-Rod's. From a pure hitting standpoint, Manny's the guy. You're right about Pujols, though...assuming he stays healthy, this all becomes a moot point.

[BrandNizzler]

Blanton isn't a free-agent.


You're right. I didn't do my homework. I just assumed he was a free agent since he was a trade deadline pickup - especially through Billy Beane. Good work Killadelphia.

[BrandNizzler]

Manny's career OPS is 34 points higher than A-Rod's. From a pure hitting standpoint, Manny's the guy. You're right about Pujols, though...assuming he stays healthy, this all becomes a moot point.

I'm not so sure it's a moot point if Pujols stays healthy. I'm not knocking Pujols, you could build a winning team with either guy. But the numbers Manny puts up in the postseason are on a level of their own. You could argue that Manny is the greatest postseason hitter of all time. When it all comes down to it, I would rather have Manny on my team for his postseason prowess than Pujols' year long consistency. Just my opinion, though...

[CubbyNick42]

Career postseason:

Manny - .274/.384/.529
Pujols - .323/.429/.593

If Manny's the greatest ever, what's that make Pujols?

[xbrokendownx]

it makes him Joey.

[BrandNizzler]

Career postseason:

Manny - .274/.384/.529
Pujols - .323/.429/.593

If Manny's the greatest ever, what's that make Pujols?

True. Let's see if Pujols can keep up that pace. Ramirez has twice as many at bats. Unfortunately, I don't see Pujols ever making it to 300+ postseason at bats.

[CubbyNick42]

True. Let's see if Pujols can keep up that pace. Ramirez has twice as many at bats. Unfortunately, I don't see Pujols ever making it to 300+ postseason at bats.
So Ramirez is the better player because he's played on better teams?

[64 % chance]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers9-2008oct09,1,1725883,full.column

best analysis on the series ever!!! I can't believe this idiot is even allowed to write.


i just sent him an email with this video in it

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[BrandNizzler]

So Ramirez is the better player because he's played on better teams?
Nope. I was agreeing with you, bud. I was surprised at how low Ramirez's average is. But you're def right.

One could make the argument that Pujols didn't have Ortiz hitting behind him, so he was pitched around a lot in the postseason, which increased his OBP. However, with Ortiz hitting behind you, you should see a lot better pitches to hit, so Ramirez's average should be higher. I'd say that's a wash. Either way, I'm gonna have to retract my initial statement and agree with you, Cubby. I'm still surprised at how low his slugging pct is.

[wesgemm08]

Phillies in 5

[imirish06]

I'm pumped.

[DaveFeelsRight]

time to hear joe buck and tim mccarver tonight...


i guess thats on par with the frank tv commercials

[bjam12]

I say Dodgers in 5

[Killadelphia]

I love Larry Bowa still giving us love as fans.

[Killadelphia]

I'm pumped.

BDZAnnzkJF0

[B-Bones]

Dodgers in 6.

[Shark90576]

time to hear joe buck and tim mccarver tonight...


i guess thats on par with the frank tv commercials

Worse. We have to hear them for an entire game instead of just after/before each inning.

Hard to pick the winner, I think it all falls on the pitchers shoulders in this series.

...Phillies in 7. Good luck to the fans of both teams

[B-Bones]

Can someone tell me what the Dodgers regular season record was against the Phillies?

[BrandNizzler]

Can someone tell me what the Dodgers regular season record was against the Phillies?
4-4
Each team swept a 4 game series at home.

[Killadelphia]

Can someone tell me what the Dodgers regular season record was against the Phillies?

4-4, they both swept 4 game series at home.

[xbrokendownx]

espn is your friend lol

teams split 8 games, 4-4

[B-Bones]

Ohhhhhh I knew they each swept at their home stadiums but wasn't aware that those were the only games they played against each other. Thanks dudes.

[B-Bones]

Damn did you guys hear (I'm sure you did, I'm just slow) that the home-field advantage in the World Series went to whichever league won the All-Star Game? Of course, it wouldn't matter since each team from the AL has a better record than each team in the NL, but it's still pretty retarded if you ask me. I guess it gives the teams an incentive to play hard in the All-Star game, but WTF?

[GiggsOho]

Not to be a dick, but you are like 5 years slow on that one.

[Killadelphia]

Damn did you guys hear (I'm sure you did, I'm just slow) that the home-field advantage in the World Series went to whichever league won the All-Star Game? Of course, it wouldn't matter since each team from the AL has a better record than each team in the NL, but it's still pretty retarded if you ask me. I guess it gives the teams an incentive to play hard in the All-Star game, but WTF?

um, which team do you root for?

[rcrook]

That's why the MLB All Star Game is the best all star game of any sport.

[BrandNizzler]

Damn did you guys hear (I'm sure you did, I'm just slow) that the home-field advantage in the World Series went to whichever league won the All-Star Game? Of course, it wouldn't matter since each team from the AL has a better record than each team in the NL, but it's still pretty retarded if you ask me. I guess it gives the teams an incentive to play hard in the All-Star game, but WTF?

Yea it's Selig's dumbest idea. Well, really, I don't think it was his idea, it was FOX's. But he okay'd it.

As for each team in the AL having a better record than each team in the NL, I guess you worded that wrong, because there are plenty of teams in the NL that have better records than AL teams. I would agree that the AL is the much better league though.

[Scott Weber]

Damn did you guys hear (I'm sure you did, I'm just slow) that the home-field advantage in the World Series went to whichever league won the All-Star Game? Of course, it wouldn't matter since each team from the AL has a better record than each team in the NL, but it's still pretty retarded if you ask me. I guess it gives the teams an incentive to play hard in the All-Star game, but WTF?
did you hear this is how it's been for like 4 or 5 years?

[Killadelphia]

Yea it's Selig's dumbest idea. Well, really, I don't think it was his idea, it was FOX's. But he okay'd it.

As for each team in the AL having a better record than each team in the NL, I guess you worded that wrong, because there are plenty of teams in the NL that have better records than AL teams. I would agree that the AL is the much better league though.

He meant each team left in the playoffs.

[BrandNizzler]

He meant each team left in the playoffs.
Ahh makes sense then. And not only that, the AL East was probly the best division in baseball. My Phillies got to beat up on the Nationals and even the Braves to a lesser extent. The Red Sox and the Rays had the Yanks and Blue Jays in their division, not really the easiest foes.

[imirish06]

Goosebumps!
BDZAnnzkJF0

[GiggsOho]

Harry the K narrating the opening on Fox, awesome beginning.

[DaveFeelsRight]

i want the philly fanatic to appear at my birthday party

[xbrokendownx]

jurassic park music? really?

[CubbyNick42]

You can never go wrong.

[Chris M.]

When is opening pitch? I want to know when I can turn over to FOX from the hockey game without hearing Mark Grace speak.

[CubbyNick42]

7:22

[GiggsOho]

When is opening pitch? I want to know when I can turn over to FOX from the hockey game without hearing Mark Grace speak.

"The Phanatic will be the x factor in game 7!"

not funny.

[CubbyNick42]

CST of course

[xbrokendownx]

thank GOD im still not in school for this game

[GiggsOho]

Five minutes into this telecast and Joe Buck is at the worst I've ever heard him.

[DaveFeelsRight]

holy fuck manny

[Scott Weber]

manny is a fucking beast.

[CubbyNick42]

Manny...still good.

[xbrokendownx]

manny!

[rcrook]

manny is the shit

[kofiadrian]

ahhh fuck.

[CubbyNick42]

Great pitch.

[kofiadrian]

for fucks sake cole.

[CubbyNick42]

Huge inning for the Dodgers even if they only get one. Hamels has thrown a ton of pitches.

[jaimej]

Bah. I'm going to put Cole's t-shirt on to give him some luck!!

[preppyak]

he was expecting down and in, got away and high

[Scott Weber]

i wonder if the dodgers won't tempt him with 2/42 mill instead of that 3 year deal he wants.

[jaimej]

LOL, first pitch since I put the shirt on ends the inning.

[CubbyNick42]

i wonder if the dodgers won't tempt him with 2/42 mill instead of that 3 year deal he wants.
Supposedly he's going to ask for 5.

[Scott Weber]

Supposedly he's going to ask for 5.
wow.

[preppyak]

Supposedly he's going to ask for 5.
No way he gets that at 36...I could see him getting 3 with an option for a 4th maybe...but especially in the NL, where they can't DH him...5 would be pretty surprising

[imirish06]

fuck I hope Hamels settles down.

[Drew Beringer]

Bah. I'm going to put Cole's t-shirt on to give him some luck!!
I'm wearing my ManRam shirt so HA! lol

[Scott Weber]

this is going to be bad news for lowe if this ump doesn't start giving him some of these low strikes.

[jaimej]

I'm wearing my ManRam shirt so HA! lol
It's on! Haha.

[GiggsOho]

or he could just give him low balls.

[kofiadrian]

hopefully lowe doesn't throw that sinker of his.

[xbrokendownx]

hooray dewitt

[kofiadrian]

fucking infield shift. under anyone other situation that could have been a base hit.

[xbrokendownx]

24 commercial!

[jaimej]

Me wearing the shirt totally gave him luck. I can't believe I didn't think to wear it immediately.

[GiggsOho]

great inning for Hamels.

[pand75]

Lowe is really getting burned on the low calls

[GiggsOho]

that double play hurt.

[xbrokendownx]

cooch

[imirish06]

Glad to see the Philadelphia tradition of hitting into double plays and stranding runners on base is still going

[Chris_Scaduto]

god i hate the phillies and bosox!

[pand75]

k?

[Killadelphia]

this is going to be bad news for lowe if this ump doesn't start giving him some of these low strikes.

like the one he got on Howard that was a foot outside?

[DaveFeelsRight]

god i hate the phillies and bosox!wer did that comefrom?

[Killadelphia]

not a good start so far. What can you do? I'm glad they pitched to Manny though it hurt him.

[imirish06]

how can anyone hate the phillies? they have over 10,000 losses and have one 1 championship in 125 years.

[Scott Weber]

like the one he got on Howard that was a foot outside?
makeup call for the one 2 pitches before right down the middle.

[preppyak]

how can anyone hate the phillies? they have over 10,000 losses and have one 1 championship in 125 years.
fans...philadelphia fans, at least that I know, are annoying as shit. I know there are plenty of good ones, but the outward and known ones...SUCK

Plus their relentless willingness to boo doesn't exactly make them any more popular

[rcrook]

how can anyone hate the phillies? they have over 10,000 losses and have one 1 championship in 125 years.

i don't really take a team's success into account when i hate a team. i hate a team for multitude of reasons including players, fans, etc.

[xbrokendownx]

philly fans are the WORST. that is why people hate the phillies

[pand75]

I wish you guys knew how bad Habs fans are in Montreal

[xbrokendownx]

i wish you knew how bad philly fans are

[DaveFeelsRight]

lol @ the booing for the knock down even though it wasnt serious

[Killadelphia]

philly fans are the WORST. that is why people hate the phillies

Lol, look at the teams you root for dude. Their fans aren't exactly amazing either.

[xerovision1]

go dodgers

[Killadelphia]

makeup call for the one 2 pitches before right down the middle.

and low.

[xbrokendownx]

Lol, look at the teams you root for dude. Their fans aren't exactly amazing either.




yes but i know that fans of my teams blow

most philly fans are in denial

[Killadelphia]

yes but i know that fans of my teams blow

most philly fans are in denial

Philly fans know their fans are crazy and pessimistic. Anyone that tells you differently is in denial, but I'm tired of the argument that only Philly boos. It's a fucking joke.

Larry Bowa was booed an awful lot here when he managed and he praised the shit out of our fans.

[GiggsOho]

It's a lost cause trying to defend Philly here, let them all live in their warped sense of reality and keep harping on stuff like booing Santa Claus.

[Killadelphia]

Anyway, back to the game. Lowe's sinker is working real well tonight. I wish Howard went with one of those sliders to left, but it's a tough pitch to hit.

It's looking like it's going to be a ground ball snore fest.

nice play by DeWitt

[Killadelphia]

It's a lost cause trying to defend Philly here, let them all live in their warped sense of reality and keep harping on stuff like booing Santa Claus.

Philly fans have earned their wild reputation, but most players that play here don't really knock it. They appreciate it.

[GiggsOho]

Philly fans have earned their wild reputation, but most players that play here don't really knock it. They appreciate it.


Totally agree, I'm just saying that most people around here don't get that at all.

[imirish06]

Nobody mentions how the Santa Clause they booed was drunk out of his mind.

[Scott Weber]

philly fans are the WORST. that is why people hate the phillies
and low.

sounds about right.

[xbrokendownx]

after living in philly for 4 years coming into it not really hating or liking the phillies and their fans, they totally earn the reputation they get, im sorry

[Killadelphia]

Nobody mentions how the Santa Clause they booed was drunk out of his mind.

Or that it happened 40 fucking years ago.

Totally agree, I'm just saying that most people around here don't get that at all.

Eh, I think the guys from the northeast and Chicago generally do.

[Killadelphia]

sounds about right.

lol, you're so hilarious. It's funny the lousy, boring fans are always called "The West Coast" fan.

[Drew Beringer]

ManRam single

[Killadelphia]

after living in philly for 4 years coming into it not really hating or liking the phillies and their fans, they totally earn the reputation they get, im sorry

Eh, see in the last 4 years you probably came in contact with a lot of the bandwagon jumpers, especially at college. I hate those fans as much as you. They're annoying for sure, especially the college crowd at the games.

But that same type of "philly fan" supports your college's teams the same way.

[xbrokendownx]

i hate 99.9% of villanova basketball fans too though so

we dont have to get into it. back to the game.

[Killadelphia]

nice pitch, but now we have the righties that cannot hit a righty. While I like Werth down a little more against righties, he almost needs to bat in the 2 hole and drop Victorino down 6th to stop the R,R,R,R, Pitcher's spot part of the lineup.

[Killadelphia]

i hate 99.9% of villanova basketball fans too though so

we dont have to get into it. back to the game.

well what is the perfect fan to you? It seems like region's fan you know, sucks.

[Scott Weber]

lol, you're so hilarious. It's funny the lousy, boring fans are always called "The West Coast" fan.
haha you are such a fucking loser. go write a blog about how charlie manuel is the reason you're down 2-0 or take screen shots of the Ryan Howard strike.

[GiggsOho]

so much for patience at the plate

[Killadelphia]

haha you are such a fucking loser. go write a blog about how charlie manuel is the reason you're down 2-0 or take screen shots of the Ryan Howard strike.

Did I not point out that I was glad Charlie pitched to Manny? You have working eyes, right? Learn to read Scott.

Did I not mention Lowe's sinker has been great tonight?

You're really reaching now. Go pick more teams.

[GiggsOho]

Jesus - Ruiz was 1 for his last 30.

[Scott Weber]

Did I not point out that I was glad Charlie pitched to Manny? You have working eyes, right? Learn to read Scott.

Did I not mention Lowe's sinker has been great tonight?

You're really reaching now. Go pick more teams.
Hahahahahahahaha. Thanks.

[GiggsOho]

Help yourself, Cole!

[xbrokendownx]

cmon Lowe get out of this

[GiggsOho]

shit shit shit

[Scott Weber]

nice, lowe.

[preppyak]

nice play by Rollins there

[pand75]

Gone!

[jaimej]

Wooo Chase!

[Scott Weber]

and just like that.

[GiggsOho]

Welcome Back Chase!

[xbrokendownx]

boooo

[jaimej]

Oh hell yes

[pand75]

Burrell!!!

[preppyak]

wow...didn't see that coming

[xbrokendownx]

kill me

[rcrook]

Chan Ho sighting uh oh...Pat the bat!

[GiggsOho]

OH MY THE BANK IS ROCKIN!

x

[Bob Payne]

i can see the fireworks from where i live.

[pand75]

What a great pickup

[64 % chance]

this will be a HUGEEEE win for the phillies if they can pull it off.

edit-I can't remember, but other than that double utley hit in the 1st game of the Brewers series have any of the phillies runs be from something other than a homerun?

[xbrokendownx]

holy fuck what a play!

[pand75]

dewitt again.

[64 % chance]

aren't ties suppose to go to the runner? cause thats what it looked like.

[GiggsOho]

"thats not even close" - Rollins. Definitely have to agree.

[pand75]

that was a dirty pitch

[GiggsOho]

Madson has done a helluva job lately.

[Bob Payne]

Madson has done a helluva job lately.

They're talking about making him a starter next year.

[GiggsOho]

They're talking about making him a starter next year.

Where have you read/heard that? I think that would be dumb.

[Bob Payne]

Where have you read/heard that? I think that would be dumb.

I think it would work. His fastball velocity and control have been phenomenal lately, and everyone knows that a better fastball means a better change-up, so yeah, they're grooming him. He might replace Kendrick. I forget where I read it. I know T-Mac was talking about it on air, but if I find an article, I'll post it.

[xbrokendownx]

come on Dodgers tie this up!

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

the phillies are 79-0 when leading after 8

wow

[preppyak]

that Fox strike zone thing has to be way off, it has about 1/2 the area of the ESPN one

[Bob Payne]

come on Dodgers tie this up!

Have you ever even heard of Brad Lidge?

[xbrokendownx]

of course ive fucking heard of brad lidge

[preppyak]

Have you ever even heard of Brad Lidge?
Yeah...wasn't he that choke artist from Houston

[Ailite]

Yes! I am so happy, my dad is at this game right now and I'm thrilled they pulled that win off. I have supported the Phillies for as long I've liked baseball and its great to see them finally do well in the post-season.

[Bob Payne]

Yeah...wasn't he that choke artist from Houston

Yeah, and the 2008 Comeback Player of the Year.

[pand75]

the phillies are 79-0 when leading after 8

wow
they haven't been leading after 8.

[GiggsOho]

AWESOME!

x

[xbrokendownx]

Lidge winning the comeback player of the year is a complete joke

[pand75]

Lidge winning the comeback player of the year is a complete joke
This

[DaveFeelsRight]

very nice game 1

[GiggsOho]

Lidge winning the comeback player of the year is a complete joke

This

Yeah going perfect in the season on saves after pretty much being written off by anyone with half a brain is complete bullshit.

Keep hating, everyone.

[DaveFeelsRight]

ummmm

[xbrokendownx]

i never said he didnt have a good fucking season.

he had a 3.36 ERA last season..what exactly did he come back from?

keep proving the philly stereotypes to be true.

[GiggsOho]

keep proving the philly stereotypes to be true.

defending Brad Lidge's award promotes stereotypes how exactly?

[xbrokendownx]

because you get so fucking caught up in everything its annoying. where did i say lidge didnt have a great year? you guys just think everyone is fucking out to get you and i hate it. its not true.

lidge ddint come back from anything. therefore he didnt deserve to win comeback player of the year

[GiggsOho]

because you get so fucking caught up in everything its annoying. where did i say lidge didnt have a great year? you guys just think everyone is fucking out to get you and i hate it. its not true.

lidge ddint come back from anything. therefore he didnt deserve to win comeback player of the year

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/9/24/620671/brad-lidge-is-having-a-hec

I never said you, or anyone else was out to get me, however I think it's ridiculous you call it a "fucking joke."

Read the numbers, that year is incredible after, again, everyone wrote him off.

[Eich696]

Broken down.. 3.36 is not exactly a good ERA for a closer. And if i recall Lidge wasn't even closing last year. So for him to come to the Phillies and close, something he almost never did last year, and be as dominant as he has been is the reason why he won the award and the reason why he deserves it.

[xbrokendownx]

come on man, who wrote him off? he had a much better year than last year. yes. that doesnt mean he deserves to win comeback player of the year. at all.

[xbrokendownx]

Broken down.. 3.36 is not exactly a good ERA for a closer. And if i recall Lidge wasn't even closing last year. So for him to come to the Phillies and close, something he almost never did last year, and be as dominant as he has been is the reason why he won the award and the reason why he deserves it.




oh my god are you people serious? you still havent told me what he came back from. all youre doing is showing me that he had a great season, which i agree with

[xbrokendownx]

btw, from that same blog you posted:


"In fact, many of his statistics are almost exactly the same as last year:"

which was brought to my attention by a PHILLIES FAN

[preppyak]

lidge ddint come back from anything. therefore he didnt deserve to win comeback player of the year
Cliff Lee came back from being demoted to AAA and nearly ending his career to be a Cy Young candidate....Carlos Pena was out of the league and had to sign minor league contracts before he had a solid 2007 season. What he's asking is what did Brad Lidge come back from?

Brad Lidge had, statistically, a similar year to last year...obviously blowing less saves...but, with a very similar IP, SO, hits, and WHIP. His runs against were pretty far down though, and as that blog showed, it was because he was changing his pitching style.

But its not like he came back from being out of the league...he didn't even have the worst year of his career in 2007

[GiggsOho]

you called it a "fucking joke" as if to say it's not even part of a rational discussion, im not saying that guys like Cantu or Pena or shit even Tatis (and if im such a stereotypical Phillies fan, I would never even suggest a Mets player) shouldn't have been included, but it's not completely out of the question.

[Eich696]

I believe he got the comeback award because of what everyone thought he was at the beginning of the year. No one knew what the phillies were going to get with him. Many still had him in their minds as the guy who lost everything after that Pujols homer. Everyone sees him as coming back from being a mental case. Thats why i think he won it... if that makes sense

[BrandNizzler]

Did I not point out that I was glad Charlie pitched to Manny? You have working eyes, right? Learn to read Scott.

Did I not mention Lowe's sinker has been great tonight?

You're really reaching now. Go pick more teams.

Kill - I totally agree with you man, I'm glad you had the balls to say it. Scott has a new favorite team every series of the playoffs. Nobody buys you as a die hard Dodgers fan. Pick one team and stick with it. Most of us here have a memory that lasts longer than a week and remember that the Brewers used to be in the playoffs.

[preppyak]

I will say...the way he ended in Houston...I am surprised that he had a perfect season in saves, cause he seemed so demoralized by that whole experience

[xbrokendownx]

it should be out of the question because he didnt come back from anything!

i didnt even know jorge cantu was still in the fucking league til about a month into the season and he hit 29 HRs

[xbrokendownx]

Kill - I totally agree with you man, I'm glad you had the balls to say it. Scott has a new favorite team every series of the playoffs. Nobody buys you as a die hard Dodgers fan. Pick one team and stick with it. Most of us here have a memory that lasts longer than a week and remember that the Brewers used to be in the playoffs.




lol oh jesus

im rooting for the dodgers too..that doesnt mean im a dodgers fan

[BrandNizzler]

btw, from that same blog you posted:



which was brought to my attention by a PHILLIES FAN

Same stats as last year?

2007: ERA - 3.36 Saves - 19
2008: ERA - 1.95 Saves - 41

I'd say thats overwhelmingly better. Not to mention that his ERA was close to 1.00 in save situations.

[BrandNizzler]

lol oh jesus

im rooting for the dodgers too..that doesnt mean im a dodgers fan

There's a difference between the way you're rooting, and the way he is rooting. Hard to explain, I know. Call me out on it, but Scott is the type of guy that buys the jersey of the team that wins the world series. Doesn't he have a Ramirez shirt now or something?

[xbrokendownx]

DREW has a Ramirez shirt

[DaveFeelsRight]

lol wow

[preppyak]

Same stats as last year?

2007: ERA - 3.36 Saves - 19
2008: ERA - 1.95 Saves - 41

I'd say thats overwhelmingly better. Not to mention that his ERA was close to 1.00 in save situations.
2007 - 67IP, 54H, 25ER, 30BB, 88SO, 1.25WHIP
2008 - 69.3IP, 50H, 15ER, 35BB, 92SO, 1.226WHIP

Statistically, in every category in which he can control, he had a very similar season beyond his HR's and ER's dropping. As that blog pointed out, he shifted his pitching style, thus fewer HR's and fewer blown saves. However, saves are also a factor of your defense and scenario, so I wouldn't call that alone proof of a huge change.

His comeback was more mental than statistical, if you are voting for him to be comeback POTY

[iihungrieii]

There's a difference between the way you're rooting, and the way he is rooting. Hard to explain, I know. Call me out on it, but Scott is the type of guy that buys the jersey of the team that wins the world series. Doesn't he have a Ramirez shirt now or something?

LOL.

[xbrokendownx]

weve been over this a million times. scott's been a fan of the rays for awhile now, before this season started for sure

[preppyak]

Yeah...I was gonna say, I remember him moaning last season when the rays were atrocious...you don't willingly become a fan of the worst team in baseball