Help Out

[Kelsey Brusseau]

Action Action (http://www.action-action.com/) and The Junior Varsity's (http://www.thejuniorvarsity.com/) vans were both robbed last night. Action Action had 8,000 dollars in cash taken and many more things. In the replies you can find the whole story from Nick in TJV and how to help Action Action in a paypal account that he has set up.

[Kelsey Brusseau]

Nick from The Junior Varsity reporting:

We played an incredible show with our brothers Action Action last night at
the Bottom Lounge in Chicago. After having a blast at the show we retired
to an apartment in downtown Chicago to socialize with members of the
Victory Staff and other friends. After hanging out for a while TJV
decided it was time to make the 3 hour track home. After entering our van
we found that many of our bags were missing. We then look over about 50
feet away and realise that Action Action were in there van as well. They
had been robbed as well. The car robbers had drilled into our vans locks
took everything they could and ran for the hills. Both bands were robbed
from but Action Action had it much worse than us.

Heres what was taken:

TJV van:
Evan's(our photographer) Camera Gear including his camera and tons of
lenses(roughly 4,000 dollars of equipment), and his iPod.
Sergio's Video Camera, and his clothes.
Asa's clothes.
Chris's clothes and iPod.


Action Action Van:
8,000 dollars in cash. Which was all of the profit they had been making
so far on this tour.
A Laptop.
Their iPods.
and tons of other things that I can't even remember now..


And due to this I have set up a relief fund for Action Action. I've never
met a group of more sincere guys in my life and I feel absolutey terrible
for what happened to them.

If there is anyway you can help...please do.


Pay Pal Link: Action-Action Relief Fund (https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=andy%40thejuniorvarsity.co m&item_name=Action+Action+Relief+Fund &no_shipping=0&no_note=1&tax=0&currency_code=USD)

[wishtowish]

wow that sucks.
action action you get 30 bucks from me cause its all i have in paypal :(
hope things look up for ya guys after this.

[poppa Q]

wow that sucks real bad.

[Kelsey Brusseau]

on a side note... give some love to TJV too. You can check out their merch on smartpunk (http://www.smartpunk.com/) .

[CrazeeJaney]

Oh shit...that's real bad luck.
Pfft humanity.
Poor guys.

[Basketcase]

that fucking blow hardcore. what the hell is up with all these bands vans and busses getting broken into?! these thieves deserve to get stabbed right in the eye. hope things pick up for these bands.

[Signals Corrupted]

you can help out here (https://www.unicefusa.org/site/apps/ka/sd/donor.asp?c=duLRI8O0H&b=277271&en=aoKDJJOmG9IEJIPuEeJAKJNnH9JPL3Pv E8KHKMOqHfLIIMMvFsG) too

[aminorthreat55]

That sucks. Why does this crap keep on happening!?

[TheDaveCarlson]

What the fuck. I'm putting a fucking safe in our van and bolting it to the sidewalls. That's horrible. I can't even imagine how I'd feel after that.

[straylighthaste]

it's a shame this type of thing always happens to awesome bands. what freakin losers those jackasses are for having to steal to make a living. get a real freaking job and you won't have to hurt others like this.

[Booyah Achieved]

Bands need to start figuring this stuff out, this is getting to be a big problem...These "people" know exactly what to look for, you just can't afford to leave stuff like this in your van, especially money...see: Murder by Death, Hopesfall, etc etc etc etc

It's a shame this type of thing always happens to awesome bands.

Would it make it any better if it happened to a shitty band? I think these bands both suck balls, but its still a shame...

[bizar0]

thats an extremely horrific story. wow.

[TheNumberOneFan]

i gave 3 dollars lol..

that's all I had in my account!

sorry guys... i did what I can for now.

[infamous_alias]

Bands need to start figuring this stuff out, this is getting to be a big problem...These "people" know exactly what to look for, you just can't afford to leave stuff like this in your van, especially money...see: Murder by Death, Hopesfall, etc etc etc etc

They should take a page out of Al Gore's book and snag one of those "lockboxes." In all seriousness though, I hope they filed a report, though I don't see them getting anything back...$8.37 to Action Action, my sincere condolences to Alex for losing his camera gear...

[Frank Giaramita]

Bands need to start figuring this stuff out, this is getting to be a big problem...These "people" know exactly what to look for, you just can't afford to leave stuff like this in your van, especially money...see: Murder by Death, Hopesfall, etc etc etc etc

I agree with leaving money in the van, that shouldnt be done. But when you're touring the nation, or even leaving your house for more then 3 days, some things need to be taken with you that can't be lugged back and forth up to a hotel room nightly, there's generally no other place to keeep months worth of clothes, camera gear, instruments, computers etc, unless you can effectively shove it all up your ass.

[thecatisblack22]

It's a shame this keeps happening to people. It may be very unlikely, but I hope you guys get your stuff back :)

[CorporateFish]

Wow..after also getting kicked out of the 707 last week for a gay-ass reason, this tour really must suck for TJV..

[Kelley Nicole]

ooo, at the bottom lounge. that area creeps me out, especially at night. i think i've run into more crazy (and i mean actually crazy) homeless guys around those venues than any others. and then there was that whole series of rapes there recently.

but anyway, this sucks. i don't understand why they'd leave small pricey items like their ipods, laptop or thousands of dollars worth of cash in their unattended van, but i still feel really bad for them.

[Signals Corrupted]

wasnt it the junior varsity who got their stuff stolen about a year ago maybe? that sucks that it happened again

[Sureshot182]

wow, that really sucks. damn crooks. good luck to everyone who lost stuff.

[sceneunheard]

dude wtf. this has been such a big problem lately.

[AnonomusVsCA]

ooo, at the bottom lounge. that area creeps me out, especially at night. i think i've run into more crazy (and i mean actually crazy) homeless guys around those venues than any others.
yeah there are some wierd people roaming around there, but the area really isnt too bad compared to some other parts of the city.

[sensesfail4]

damn common criminals. its hard enough just being an indie band, but its even harder when someone takes the little cash that u have. whoever did this should rot in hell

[I Shoot Bands]

that fucking sucks, the best of luck to both bands on getting back on their feet.

[OveriseFan]

Wow..after also getting kicked out of the 707 last week for a gay-ass reason, this tour really must suck for TJV..

Why'd they get kicked out?

This sucks... 2 awesome bands...

[Signals Corrupted]

Why'd they get kicked out?



because they said a bad word

[splitsecond]

Not to be a dick... but keeping $8000 unsecured in a car is just dumb. Like, the clothes and ipods i can see, but get get a bank account and deposit that cash. Thats just crazy.

[ForeverInADay]

That honestly fucking sucks the big one. Seems like I'm going to be buying more merch from Action Action on the 18th then ha.

[dancezachdance]

isnt there a way that bands can use insurance to fix this?

[Signals Corrupted]

here (https://www.unicefusa.org/site/apps/ka/sd/donor.asp?c=duLRI8O0H&b=277271&en=aoKDJJOmG9IEJIPuEeJAKJNnH9JPL3Pv E8KHKMOqHfLIIMMvFsG)

[indieira]

i do believe this is the 2nd time asa's had his bag of his clothes taken.......tjv has horrible luck....first they go through about 54 transmissions.........now they have their van broken into......its ok tho.....what doesnt kill you makes you stronger right? just one more reason for people to support action action and TJV.....

[romantic rights]

i think when bands go into their hotel rooms now, they need to take their stuff in with them.
but anyways, its a good thing i just got a paypal acount cause action action rock

[musical monkey]

dont leave money in your van and someone should always sleep in there too. this is getting ridiculous

[Aileen]

i donated $10. those guys have been really good to some of my friends in other long island bands, not to mention i always love going to see them play.

situations like this make me really nervous about going on tour this summer... i'm most likely bringing my ibook, ipod, and my $1600 digital slr camera and i don't know what i'd do if any of that got stolen.

[OveriseFan]

because they said a bad word

WHAT THE FUCK!

Oh woops, I might get kicked off the boards.

[aolsux]

Wow, that really fucking sucks. I would donate some money, but I'm at a loss of cash right now.

[BrandNew20]

Shitty situation, I hope both bands can get through it.

[XPaRiSiNfLaMeSX]

This is a fucking sad story. Some people are such caleptos (sorry if I spelled that wrong). These are two great bands and no band deserves to have their things, especially all their profit of the tour stolen. It especially hits Action Action hard because they are literally broke.

[robdobi]

situations like this make me really nervous about going on tour this summer... i'm most likely bringing my ibook, ipod, and my $1600 digital slr camera and i don't know what i'd do if any of that got stolen.

note to self, follow aileen on tour, bring bolt cutters.

[Pinupgirl]

Hey guys I never post on these boards but this is really important to me. I sell merch for Action Action and I just wanted to make a correction that it was 3 laptops that were stolen. I also wanted to thank The Junior Varsity for helping us out we appreciate it.
Thank you to everyone who helps us out, come see us and buy a lot of merch!
Thank you xoxo

[TheNumberOneFan]

Hey guys I never post on these boards but this is really important to me. I sell merch for Action Action and I just wanted to make a correction that it was 3 laptops that were stolen. I also wanted to thank The Junior Varsity for helping us out we appreciate it.
Thank you to everyone who helps us out, come see us and buy a lot of merch!
Thank you xoxo

give our regrets to the guys, then :)

[Aileen]

note to self, follow aileen on tour, bring bolt cutters.
note to self: if items get stolen on tour, hunt down rob dobi and break all of his say anything cds.

[indieira]

yeah.......i had heard 3 but i thought i was wrong.........that makes it sucks even more

[jacobe]

ok, time to be an asshole I guess.

When this happened a few weeks ago to With Honor there was a huge thread about it on Bridge 9's board with both sides being argued out. It really is a ridiculous thing to be keeping that amount of money with you on tour, let alone unattended in a van. Felix Havoc (Havoc Records) made a really great point, go to a bank, get a money order and mail it to yourself. Easy as that. There is no need to have so much cash laying about while hitting different towns/cities every night. A band like Action Action that has been around long enough in various forms should no better than to place themselves in a position for something like this to occur.

As for donating to them via paypal...why? I understand wanting to help out the band and I think it's great that people want to help, but why not buy some merch from their site or buy another copy of their record and give it to a friend? Why is it that any band that has the misfortune of being taken advantage of think that they are deserving of being handed money? I don't get it. If you do donate to them, awesome, that's great and I think it's awesome for you to do something so selfless, but why not donate that money to something more worthwhile? Shit, I should open a donation account for people to help me buys meds or pay my car insurance.

I know I sound like a total dick, but I'm just amazed at the whole explosion of "paypal donations" for bands not being smart enough to prevent things that could be preventable.

[kallok]

many bands need better ways of keeping their things safe. all bands should have insurance to cover their stuff on the road, it's really worth having. A alarm system on the van isn't a bad idea. And never keep shit like money and guitars and other small things in the van... if someone wants to take a marshall cab, that can be replaced a lot easier than a bag with a $500 Ipod with 5,000 songs and 5,000 in ca$h money.

[jacobe]

nice, a fellow youngstown, OH poster.

[abbreviation]

They left $8,000 in their van while they were in CHICAGO? Chicago being the keyword there....that wasn't the smartest move, Chicago isn't exactly one of the safest cities. But that still sucks for both bands and crap like that should never happen.

[Signals Corrupted]

here (https://www.unicefusa.org/site/apps/ka/sd/donor.asp?c=duLRI8O0H&b=277271&en=aoKDJJOmG9IEJIPuEeJAKJNnH9JPL3Pv E8KHKMOqHfLIIMMvFsG)

[TheNumberOneFan]

here (https://www.unicefusa.org/site/apps/ka/sd/donor.asp?c=duLRI8O0H&b=277271&en=aoKDJJOmG9IEJIPuEeJAKJNnH9JPL3Pv E8KHKMOqHfLIIMMvFsG)

DUDE

we get the idea...

thank you for the link to a Tsunami Benefit site...

[Rufio21]

they shouldnt keep all that in the van.. put some in a bank accoutn or something.. this happens way to often.. I gave them all the money left in my account.

[ctsfan1]

its nice that ppl are like hey they should to this, why would you do this....

The fact is...they kept their laptops in the van becuase they use them alot, the ipods were always up front in the front of the van, the money was always hidden, it wasnts like the money was just sitting on the seat, this shit can happen and has happen to other bands, so stop ragging on them.

[s.deel.besonym]

Action Action (http://www.action-action.com/) and The Junior Varsity's (http://www.thejuniorvarsity.com/) vans were both robbed last night. Action Action had 8,000 dollars in cash taken and many more things. In the replies you can find the whole story from Nick in TJV and how to help Action Action in a paypal account that he has set up.

20 bucks from me cuz I'm so sick of this shit.

[Signals Corrupted]

DUDE

we get the idea...

thank you for the link to a Tsunami Benefit site...


you're welcome.

[Dob]

damn man that sucks a bunch
i dont have paypal so i cant donate but ehhh
sorry guys

[NickDodson]

ok, time to be an asshole I guess.

When this happened a few weeks ago to With Honor there was a huge thread about it on Bridge 9's board with both sides being argued out. It really is a ridiculous thing to be keeping that amount of money with you on tour, let alone unattended in a van. Felix Havoc (Havoc Records) made a really great point, go to a bank, get a money order and mail it to yourself. Easy as that. There is no need to have so much cash laying about while hitting different towns/cities every night. A band like Action Action that has been around long enough in various forms should no better than to place themselves in a position for something like this to occur.

As for donating to them via paypal...why? I understand wanting to help out the band and I think it's great that people want to help, but why not buy some merch from their site or buy another copy of their record and give it to a friend? Why is it that any band that has the misfortune of being taken advantage of think that they are deserving of being handed money? I don't get it. If you do donate to them, awesome, that's great and I think it's awesome for you to do something so selfless, but why not donate that money to something more worthwhile? Shit, I should open a donation account for people to help me buys meds or pay my car insurance.

I know I sound like a total dick, but I'm just amazed at the whole explosion of "paypal donations" for bands not being smart enough to prevent things that could be preventable.


I'm usually pretty friendly when it comes to posting on here but...

The reason I set up the paypal account for action action is becuase they have no other means of income if your mommy or daddy had there paycheck stolen from them you'd be quite upset as well that you couldnt 1.eat 2. live with heat during the winter 3. wash your body with water 4. buy your pokemon cards. Another reason i set it up is so that people have the choice to donate if they feel the need. I'm not holding any guns to anyones heads by any means...

Also...When shows get over Banks are not open..I promise. Also buying a CD of a band that is in bad luck is great and all but the bands get nowhere near all of the profit of those.

You don't know what it's like until you cant pay bills trust me TJV has had there water/electricity shut off/back pay on rent for 2 months due to getting things stolen and or shows screwing us over.

[yoursuicide]

I'm usually pretty friendly when it comes to posting on here but...

The reason I set up the paypal account for action action is becuase they have no other means of income if your mommy or daddy had there paycheck stolen from them you'd be quite upset as well that you couldnt 1.eat 2. live with heat during the winter 3. wash your body with water 4. buy your pokemon cards. Another reason i set it up is so that people have the choice to donate if they feel the need. I'm not holding any guns to anyones heads by any means...

Also...When shows get over Banks are not open..I promise. Also buying a CD of a band that is in bad luck is great and all but the bands get nowhere near all of the profit of those.

You don't know what it's like until you cant pay bills trust me TJV has had there water/electricity shut off/back pay on rent for 2 months due to getting things stolen and or shows screwing us over.

he speaks the truth. i travel on the road with a local band selling their merch and taking photographs and during tour it is nearly impossible to keep track of everything you have. and how on earth are you going to have a bank account that you can deposit into no matter what city you are in? its just rediculous to think that. on top of all of that, you need to make sure you have something for emergencys. its horrible that people do things like this, but in no way should action action or tjv be blamed for anything happening to them.

[FarPastGone]

That tough stuff........I feel bad for both the bands, I know I saw Action Action just around the end of January and they were awesome guys. I think there is no need too argue over a thing like this though, obviously its not a completely absurd cause for donation here, but there is other donations out there that could use the help more (Then again there always will be charities out there more deserving then the next, and if its not something you care about donating too then maybe something that affects your life is more worthy to donate money too.), but if donating too a band you really like is something that is more important too you then do it. Its all a matter of how you view things, I can assure you neither side is wrong depending on how you look at them though, and I also do not believe this is a ridiculous cause either. I wish the guys in both bands the best luck, and hope things work out for both them.

[burn with power]

Thats horrible, I met Action Action last year, and they were the most chill guys ever. What jerks [ the people who robbed them. ]

[jacobe]

I'm usually pretty friendly when it comes to posting on here but...

The reason I set up the paypal account for action action is becuase they have no other means of income if your mommy or daddy had there paycheck stolen from them you'd be quite upset as well that you couldnt 1.eat 2. live with heat during the winter 3. wash your body with water 4. buy your pokemon cards. Another reason i set it up is so that people have the choice to donate if they feel the need. I'm not holding any guns to anyones heads by any means...

Also...When shows get over Banks are not open..I promise. Also buying a CD of a band that is in bad luck is great and all but the bands get nowhere near all of the profit of those.

You don't know what it's like until you cant pay bills trust me TJV has had there water/electricity shut off/back pay on rent for 2 months due to getting things stolen and or shows screwing us over.


Wait a moment, I was pretty polite in my post and you come off and judge me as though I'm handed things from my parents, how is that justified? It's cute though that you make an assumption about me though, really awesome.

If you had read my post I never said that the money should be deposited into a bank following a show, I understand that the bank that a band belongs to is not always available in the city they are presently in, that is where the idea of a money order comes into play. Perhaps every $500/$1000 the band should invest ina money order, easier to keep on your person at any given moment or mail home, it's as simple as that. There is not reason to have that much cash on hand at any given moment. A band should also have a very secure place to hide money in the van should they decide they need to have $8000 on hand, most vans can have a safe built into it for a few hundered and hidden compartments are not all that difficult to manufacture. I understand the need for band to have an emergency fund as well, but not many things would require $8000 at any given moment.

I also never said that you were forceing people to donate, I also said it was really awesome of the people that did donate to do so.

[indieira]

Wait a moment, I was pretty polite in my post and you come off and judge me as though I'm handed things from my parents, how is that justified? It's cute though that you make an assumption about me though, really awesome.

If you had read my post I never said that the money should be deposited into a bank following a show, I understand that the bank that a band belongs to is not always available in the city they are presently in, that is where the idea of a money order comes into play. Perhaps every $500/$1000 the band should invest ina money order, easier to keep on your person at any given moment or mail home, it's as simple as that. There is not reason to have that much cash on hand at any given moment. A band should also have a very secure place to hide money in the van should they decide they need to have $8000 on hand, most vans can have a safe built into it for a few hundered and hidden compartments are not all that difficult to manufacture. I understand the need for band to have an emergency fund as well, but not many things would require $8000 at any given moment.

I also never said that you were forceing people to donate, I also said it was really awesome of the people that did donate to do so.

dude, shut the fuck up

[jacobe]

dude, shut the fuck up

very nice argument against what I've said.

[Guy]

I was thinking about giving my money to help out in the Asian Tsunami disaster, but now that this has come up I think I'll just give it to Action Action. I feel a lot more comfortable having my money go to a couple of relatively rich white kids as opposed to millions of homeless and disease-ravaged people who have really small eyes and yellowish skin.

[kissbangkill]

I was thinking about giving my money to help out in the Asian Tsunami disaster, but now that this has come up I think I'll just give it to Action Action. I feel a lot more comfortable having my money go to a couple of relatively rich white kids as opposed to millions of homeless and disease-ravaged people who have really small eyes and yellowish skin.

who said people haven't done both? or can't do both? like was previously stated, no one is holding a gun to anyones head. i've donated to tsunami relief and if i had paypal, i'd donate action action as well, but since i can't, perhaps i'll pick up the album or something since i've always enjoyed it, but haven't actually purchased it yet.

[BrandNew20]

I was thinking about giving my money to help out in the Asian Tsunami disaster, but now that this has come up I think I'll just give it to Action Action. I feel a lot more comfortable having my money go to a couple of relatively rich white kids as opposed to millions of homeless and disease-ravaged people who have really small eyes and yellowish skin.

hmm...I don't think I saw Action Action coming out and saying that they didn't want people to donate money to the disaster relief fund or that they should soley donate to them. People need to stop comparing these two events, its painfully obvious which one is worse...

[Guy]

Perhaps the fairest thing to do would be to donate on a proportionate basis, depending on what has been lost:

Action Action Tragedy: $10,000 worth of stuff
Asian Tsunami Tragedy: $1000000000000000 worth of stuff + 250,000 lives +


So if you have $20 to donate, it would make sense to give $19.9999999999999999999 dollars to the Tsunami relief and .0000000000000000001 dollars to Action Action. And of course, that is assuming that there are no other tragedies/disasters occuring in the world other than these two.

[Lemieux66]

It was weird, I was in California once and I got some money, and I went to a bank there and it was put into my account back in Texas. Apparently my bank has locations nationwide for this type of thing. They also have 24 hour atm deposits that take cash and branches along major highways that are open when I was driving between cities during the day.

Like whoa.

I agree with Frank though, the equipment loss really sucks, but you've got to do everything you can to minimize your losses. Depositing cash is one way to do that.

[Pinupgirl]

I just want to thank everyone in the behalf of Action Action for all of the thoughtful comments. We appreciate everything. All we ask is to please help support Action Action by coming to their shows, buying their merch, purchasing their cd and spreading the word about them to all your friends. These guys are a great band and great people who work very hard. There is no reason to bring the Tsunami disaster into this. We are all safe and that is what really matters. Losing everything you worked so hard for is never an easy thing but it just means that we will all work harder. We look forward to seeing all of you very soon!!!!
xoxo
Somer

[strummer85]

Perhaps the fairest thing to do would be to donate on a proportionate basis, depending on what has been lost:

Action Action Tragedy: $10,000 worth of stuff
Asian Tsunami Tragedy: $1000000000000000 worth of stuff + 250,000 lives +


So if you have $20 to donate, it would make sense to give $19.9999999999999999999 dollars to the Tsunami relief and .0000000000000000001 dollars to Action Action. And of course, that is assuming that there are no other tragedies/disasters occuring in the world other than these two.

You are a gigantic tool. You're actually like the whole tool box. You're like...a hardware department in a Sears. You're a fucking Home Depot, you're such a tool. OK, maybe that analogy is being a bit overextended. Just shut the hell up.

There are LITERALLY millions of people and dozens of governments in the world giving money for disaster relief, and it's a cause that IS worthy of that much attention, but Action Action doesn't exactly have the government of Spain looking to help them out, so to ask their fans for a little isn't taking away from Tsunami relief. Just get off your high horse, come back down here with the rest of us, and stop talking.

[Guy]

Instead of taking responsibility for their own mistakes, Action Action is asking their fans to help pay the costs of their own stupidity. You know those kids at your high school who total their car right after getting their license and their parents give them another one the next week? Giving Action Action money is like being one of those parents.

[NickDodson]

Instead of taking responsibility for their own mistakes, Action Action is asking their fans to help pay the costs of their own stupidity. You know those kids at your high school who total their car right after getting their license and their parents give them another one the next week? Giving Action Action money is like being one of those parents.


Yo Guy, Action Action didnt ask for anyone to do this. I took initiative and did it for them because I felt bad for them. They just endorsed the deal after I had it posted.

Grow up.

[noles05]

I just want to thank everyone in the behalf of Action Action for all of the thoughtful comments. We appreciate everything. All we ask is to please help support Action Action by coming to their shows, buying their merch, purchasing their cd and spreading the word about them to all your friends. These guys are a great band and great people who work very hard. There is no reason to bring the Tsunami disaster into this. We are all safe and that is what really matters. Losing everything you worked so hard for is never an easy thing but it just means that we will all work harder. We look forward to seeing all of you very soon!!!!
xoxo
Somer

i agree. just go to shows, buy merch, and have a great time. no one ever said you had to "donate" to their little fund.

[FourStarters]

I'm sure this has been said, but DUDE.

1. Don't leave that much cash in your van. If you're that dumb, you might as well stand outside your van and hand out money. If you do feel the need to carry that much cash with you, get a safebox (about $50 with lock and key at Wal Mart) and keep that shit with your merch table, where you know you'll be.

2. What ever happened to the rule of one person with the van at all times? Most young touring bands know this, one guy sleeps in the van, one guy watches the van at ALL times. You can't, can't, CAN'T afford to let shit like this happen..

I was at the Cleveland show when With Honor had their van broken into (our band opened) and there wasn't a single member of With Honor or their crew near their van the entire night. Aside from load in and load out, the band and crew were either at their table or in the back room hanging out. At least knowing that the neighborhood's not that great and that you have a very obvious target in a van with trailer at a concert club, be smart and have someone at least CHECK on the van once in a while.

[FourStarters]

It was weird, I was in California once and I got some money, and I went to a bank there and it was put into my account back in Texas. Apparently my bank has locations nationwide for this type of thing. They also have 24 hour atm deposits that take cash and branches along major highways that are open when I was driving between cities during the day.

Like whoa.

I agree with Frank though, the equipment loss really sucks, but you've got to do everything you can to minimize your losses. Depositing cash is one way to do that.
This kid wins.

[Adeniz19]

Instead of taking responsibility for their own mistakes, Action Action is asking their fans to help pay the costs of their own stupidity. You know those kids at your high school who total their car right after getting their license and their parents give them another one the next week? Giving Action Action money is like being one of those parents.
:headshake

[earlynovemberX]

what happened to bank accounts?

[Pinupgirl]

I keep feeling the need to post on here...maybe it's because I'm bored but can I ask you one favor?
Yes a mistake was made it was careless but we really don't need to hear how stupid our mistake was. We are humans and as humans we make mistakes and learn from !
Thank you again to The Junior Varsity, everyone should check out this band!

[Frank Giaramita]

Unless you've toured the fucking nation in a van with 4 other people, You can't open your mouth and say a goddamn thing. You have no idea what it's like, you know nothing about life on the road, you know nothing about money or valuable management because you havent experienced what touring bands have...and unless you have, I suggest you shut the fuck up, unless you want to look more idiotic and ignorant then you already do.

[Frank Giaramita]

I keep feeling the need to post on here...maybe it's because I'm bored but can I ask you one favor?
Yes a mistake was made it was careless but we really don't need to hear how stupid our mistake was. We are humans and as humans we make mistakes and learn from !
Thank you again to The Junior Varsity, everyone should check out this band!

Haha, i saw you at a recent Action Action show that they played with Hidden In Plain View and Down To Earth Approach at The Downtown on LI. I was the one hanging out with Chitty (HIPV merch dude) all day, and trying to convince you to give me a pair of Action Action drum sticks. :lol2:

[normitron]

sucks.

on a happy note. burning bright tore both these bands new assholes in the rock department at that show. I was duely impressed.

they have one of the best drummers I have ever seen.

[davedesloover18]

who keeps 8 g's lying around in a van?

[chasingdogma]

Unless you've toured the fucking nation in a van with 4 other people, You can't open your mouth and say a goddamn thing. You have no idea what it's like, you know nothing about life on the road, you know nothing about money or valuable management because you havent experienced what touring bands have...and unless you have, I suggest you shut the fuck up, unless you want to look more idiotic and ignorant then you already do.

great point.. when you're touring your van pretty much becomes your home. I think its natural to feel kind of secure with putting things in your locked van. Regardless, whats done is done, so why criticize them for making a mistake? They dont know you, what you tell them isn't going to help them especially when they hear it 90,000 times over. Help these guys out, they just basically played a whole tour for free and ate all the costs.

[Jesse2]

Unless you've toured the fucking nation in a van with 4 other people, You can't open your mouth and say a goddamn thing. You have no idea what it's like, you know nothing about life on the road, you know nothing about money or valuable management because you havent experienced what touring bands have...and unless you have, I suggest you shut the fuck up, unless you want to look more idiotic and ignorant then you already do.

It's like Tenacious D said...
"The road is fuckin’ hard,
The road is fuckin’ tough-ah,
There’s no question that-eh
It is rough, rough stuff. "

[LTJ182]

Ive done busses and van tours...

busses dont get broken into because everyone is always looking at them...its only natural, unless your bus driver parks in the hood behind a 20 crack whore motel in God only knows what town...

the thing you have to worry about on a bus is the other people you are with...if you are traveling on a bus like a sponsor one of the warped tour your chances of getting ripped off are better because you dont know who you are around...being with a band, you should have a pretty good idea of who you are with...

van and trailer-its easy
YOU TAKE THE MONEY WITH YOU WHEREVER YOU GO!! plain and simple.... keeping 8 grand in a van even in the middle of rodeo drive is retarded... the post office charges like a $1.50 for a money order...you should know what your budget is between expenses and perdiems etc etc

these guys just need to give it up...band member changes, band name changes, nothing works...its a sign

[AnonomusVsCA]

Unless you've toured the fucking nation in a van with 4 other people, You can't open your mouth and say a goddamn thing. You have no idea what it's like, you know nothing about life on the road, you know nothing about money or valuable management because you havent experienced what touring bands have...and unless you have, I suggest you shut the fuck up, unless you want to look more idiotic and ignorant then you already do.
what bands have you been in/toured with? im not trying to be a dick, im just curious

[OveratedMag]

I agree that there was many things that could have been done to prevent their loss... but shit kids.. people make fucking mistakes. These guys have already beaten themselves up enough about this. They know what mistakes they made and if anything they have learned from them. They really don't need people restatijng over and over again how stupid they are.

How would you feel if you worked your fucking ass off day in and day out and in the end you did all of that for nothing? THIS IS THEIR JOB. Just like you go to work at burger king every day and get a nice little sum of money at the end of a week... part of that money was their source of income.

If you don't want to donate money or support this band... fine. But don't be a fucking jackass about it. I'm sure all of your opinions would change if Brand New got robbed.

[Guy]

This is a question for any band:

when was the last time you came home from a tour with $8000 profit?

[OveratedMag]

This is a question for any band:

when was the last time you came home from a tour with $8000 profit?


You think this $8,000 was a profit? Hardly. Do you even know what expenses go into being a touring band.... a touring band with very little support from their label for that matter?

[Guy]

Heres what was taken:

Action Action Van:
8,000 dollars in cash. Which was all of the profit they had been making
so far on this tour.

profit = revenue minus expenses

[OveratedMag]

I guess maybe it was all profit then. Regardless it sucks.

Again.. a stupid mistake on their part. Yes, it's obvious they should have had a safe or deposited the money into a bank at some point along their journey. They didn't. People make mistakes.

[strummer85]

Ive done busses and van tours...

busses dont get broken into because everyone is always looking at them...its only natural, unless your bus driver parks in the hood behind a 20 crack whore motel in God only knows what town...

the thing you have to worry about on a bus is the other people you are with...if you are traveling on a bus like a sponsor one of the warped tour your chances of getting ripped off are better because you dont know who you are around...being with a band, you should have a pretty good idea of who you are with...

van and trailer-its easy
YOU TAKE THE MONEY WITH YOU WHEREVER YOU GO!! plain and simple.... keeping 8 grand in a van even in the middle of rodeo drive is retarded... the post office charges like a $1.50 for a money order...you should know what your budget is between expenses and perdiems etc etc

these guys just need to give it up...band member changes, band name changes, nothing works...its a sign

I love the way more people are criticizing a group of guys who got robbed than the dipshits who robbed them. Anyone who's saying anything negative about this band for their lack of precautions, I hope next time you leave something anywhere, it gets jacked. When you park a car, someone should just drill into it and take whatever they can. Then I will criticize you for leaving it there.

[Guy]

Unless "Old Bridge, NJ" is the east coast version of Compton, I'm guessing it doesn't require the same precautions as Chicago, IL.

[LTJ182]

wanna know the irony to your post??

I live in the fucking hood of NYC...three weeks ago, as i always have, parked under a light, in front of a school, half a block from the police station....took my face plate out and went home...

sure enough, next day, broken side window--jacked...stereo gone. i did what i could to do but it still got broken into...they will take anything they can, so better to take all you can...

van and trailers are easy targets, youd think that with all that is going around with this people would wise up and not leave EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS in there..

as far as profit...if they had 8 grand, technically that was profit. Most people use a rolling budget when they arent in a bus. so the only expense not accounted for was merch money that has to be paid back.

[HotChicago]

Holy shit, I knew I shouldn't come here. Here goes...


As for donating to them via paypal...why?

Because it's a nice thing that people who want to help them out can do. No one's saying anyone has to do it, but a lot of people want to help out, and that's a good way to do it.

I was thinking about giving my money to help out in the Asian Tsunami disaster, but now that this has come up I think I'll just give it to Action Action. I feel a lot more comfortable having my money go to a couple of relatively rich white kids as opposed to millions of homeless and disease-ravaged people who have really small eyes and yellowish skin.

Actually, genuis, I know a lot of people who were recently in Sri Lanka, both with media outlets and aid organizations, and right now they don't need all of the donations/volunteers that they have. In fact, a lot of organizations have a ton of money and not a clue in the world about what to do with it.

A person who was there observing aid organizations said not to donate now. If you really want to help, wait six months, for everyone to forget about, then donate money. Because that's when they're going to need it.

Not to mention, as others pointed out, no one said you can't do both.

Instead of taking responsibility for their own mistakes, Action Action is asking their fans to help pay the costs of their own stupidity. You know those kids at your high school who total their car right after getting their license and their parents give them another one the next week? Giving Action Action money is like being one of those parents.

Yeah, donating money to a group of people who you want to help because they were robbed is definite the same as helping out a spoiled little brat who gets everything handed to them from mommy and daddy. Especially considering they get almost no tour support from Victory. Not to mention, they weren't even the ones to set up the Paypal account.

I'm sure this has been said, but DUDE.

1. Don't leave that much cash in your van. If you're that dumb, you might as well stand outside your van and hand out money. If you do feel the need to carry that much cash with you, get a safebox (about $50 with lock and key at Wal Mart) and keep that shit with your merch table, where you know you'll be.

It was after the show. Even if they had had the monet in a little safebox, you think the people breaking into the van would have had any problem taking it?

van and trailer-its easy
YOU TAKE THE MONEY WITH YOU WHEREVER YOU GO!! plain and simple.... keeping 8 grand in a van even in the middle of rodeo drive is retarded... the post office charges like a $1.50 for a money order...you should know what your budget is between expenses and perdiems etc etc

I would say it would generally be more dangerous for these guys to keep that much money on their bodies than leave it in the van. Was it smart to not deposit the money? No. But I don't think it would have been a fantastic idea to carry money with them, either.

Unless "Old Bridge, NJ" is the east coast version of Compton, I'm guessing it doesn't require the same precautions as Chicago, IL.

I'm from Chicago. Not that scary. Bottom Lounge? Not really in a bad neighborhood. There are almost always a ton of people on Belmont, day or night. It's right across the street from a busy el stop, and I would feel completely safe walking around there by myself in the middle of the night. Don't talk about things you don't know about.



Conclusion: Yeah, they probably learned their lesson that next time they should deposit the money. But a lot of you people need to stop being such jackasses and remember that they were the victims, here.

[FourStarters]

Hate me, bash me, take my scene points - losing eight grand on your own stupidity isn't a mistake, it's your own damn fault. If it happened after the show, even better...where are they staying? Take the money with you. You've got a van with a trailer full of gear parked outside a club. You don't think you look like an easy target?

BTW, an alarm for a van costs about $100 at Wal Mart too, and any clown who can wire a keyboard to a mixing board can figure out how to wire up an alarm system that protects everything you have. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Action Action are from NYC and TJV are from Chicago...they should know that if you have $8,000 and a bunch of tech gear laying around and it's all you have of value, you protect that shit like it's all you have.

Bottom line - if you are careless with your gear, you don't deserve to have it.

[Zwinger]

TJV isn't from Chicago. You are wrong. Stand corrected.

First of all... HotChicago is dead on. I understand that you guys are trying to play Devil's Advocate and try to get a rise out of a bunch of Internet people who you don't know who are reading this thread most likely because they like the music TJV and Action Action play. Congratulations. You've just pulled the equivalent of pushing a third grader down and laughing at him.

As far as any of this Tsunami stuff goes, that anyone says we should give money to the Tsunami Relief instead of this is insane. TJV and Action Action knew the risks of leaving money in their van and they got screwed. The people who live where the Tsunami hit knew the risks as well. My uncle lives a mile from a coast of where it hit, but he knew it was a risk when he moved there. People over there know the consequences of where they live, just like the people in Florida know they could get hit by hurricanes. It's on the other side of the world, though, so we don't realize that. In both cases, people got a lot of their things taken away from them and both need money to live. To let Action Action's members lose $8,000 and not help out if we so choose is just as bad as not helping out with the Tsunami relief, maybe even worse if we actually know band members.

And what the fuck is having someone sleep in the van going to do? I'd rather have someone steal all my equipment, clothes, and cash than have one of my bandmates sleep in a van that gets broken into by Chicago slummies and get shot.

I don't know. The moronic attitudes of some of you assholes make me too mad to try to make a clear point here. I'll check back later. And fuck you, Guy.

[MidniteVulture]

That's really unfortunate... that a band as shitty as Action Action can make $8000. Shit, I'm getting my ass on the road pronto!

[Frank Giaramita]

what bands have you been in/toured with? im not trying to be a dick, im just curious

None, hence why im not placing my opinions of judgement on the situation, unlike some people.

[HotChicago]

Hate me, bash me, take my scene points - losing eight grand on your own stupidity isn't a mistake, it's your own damn fault. If it happened after the show, even better...where are they staying? Take the money with you. You've got a van with a trailer full of gear parked outside a club. You don't think you look like an easy target?

They weren't staying anywhere, they went to fucking dinner. They probably weren't gone more than an hour. I've left my car with shit in it parked outside the Bottom Lounge for way longer than an hour without checking on it. The BL isn't in a bad area, and I totally understand why they would feel safe leaving their shit there. Getting robbed wasn't their fault, stop being a fucking dick.

BTW, an alarm for a van costs about $100 at Wal Mart too, and any clown who can wire a keyboard to a mixing board can figure out how to wire up an alarm system that protects everything you have.

Name me one band who has an alarm on their van.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Action Action are from NYC and TJV are from Chicago...

Half of Ax2 is from Long Island, the other half is from Albany. TJV are from IL. Hardly NYC and downtown Chicago.

[Pinupgirl]

Haha, i saw you at a recent Action Action show that they played with Hidden In Plain View and Down To Earth Approach at The Downtown on LI. I was the one hanging out with Chitty (HIPV merch dude) all day, and trying to convince you to give me a pair of Action Action drum sticks. :lol2:

Hey that actually wasn't me. I didn't stary working for them until they left fo the lovedrug tour. But hey if I'm there next time come say hi!

[Pinupgirl]

I guess maybe it was all profit then. Regardless it sucks.

Again.. a stupid mistake on their part. Yes, it's obvious they should have had a safe or deposited the money into a bank at some point along their journey. They didn't. People make mistakes.


Oh I love you <3

[Pinupgirl]

This is a question for any band:

when was the last time you came home from a tour with $8000 profit?

You are a very bored dude.

[OveratedMag]

Oh I love you <3

:love:

hahah. hi bff!